1 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jason tim Podcast. Thank you guys so 2 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: much for taking time out of your Wednesday to hang 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: out with me. I'm super happy today because I know 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: for a fact that the WiFi, I although I'm jinxing 5 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: myself here, that the WiFi is gonna hang in with 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: me through this podcast. Because I am no longer at 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the house that I was trying to record at the 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: last few weeks until I can get that situation remedied. 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: I am at the place where I grew up. I'm 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: in my old childhood bedroom, so there's some nostalgia here, 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: but I've got I just set up a brand new 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: mesh WiFi network um for my parents here, so I 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: could take advantage of that just to kind of float 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: me until I can get the WiFi situation fixed out 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: where I'm living right now. Um, but I was super excited. 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Tommy is really busy with work this week, so he 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: was unable to record with me this week. UM, So 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be going solo today and then Rog 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: and I are gonna be going on Friday morning. And 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: then Rog and I talked about maybe doing one of 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: those locker room chats after the Clippers Lakers game on Sunday, 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: which is exciting. I'm excited to try that out because 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: I haven't done the locker room thing before, but I 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting. And then we can give some 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: of you guys a chance to hop in and actually 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: ask us questions directly. Um. But so today I just 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: wanna kind of stay really macarrol. I'm not gonna die 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: too much into analysis and just talk about some macro 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: NBA topics. I wanted to talk about for like two 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: seconds about the this JJ Reddick thing because I think 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: it's super interesting. And then uh um uh the I 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: want to talk about this thing with Katie and the 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: nets and just some of the discourse surrounding, you know, 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: people getting really upset about him being on a really 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: good team, how I feel about that. And then I 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about a couple of these buyout candidates. 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna do that at the beginning, the little bit 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: of analysis type stuff, um, and then at the end 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to respond to a little conversation that was 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: bouncing around Twitter today because of the Dan Lebotard show, uh, 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: surrounding just some of the differences between Lebron and Steph. Um. 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: But I want to start with the buyout stuff. So 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: because the story just came down from Shams that uh, 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: the Lakers are expecting to umu, the Lakers are expecting 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: to play Andre Drummond upwards of thirty minutes at night, 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: and that it might end up sending Marc Gasol out 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: of the rotation. And it's interesting for a bunch of 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: different reasons, uh for starters, you know, when the Lakers 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: got to the playoffs last year, because Andre Drummond kind 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: of fits more of that JaVale McGhee, uh Dwight Howard 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: type of role. He's not your uh when the Lakers 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: wanted to be more versatile, they played a lot of 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: Marquis Morris last year, and they played a lot of 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis at the five. So even if Marcosol was 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: entirely out of the rotation, the idea of playing uh 56 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: Drummond thirty minutes and it doesn't really make a ton 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: of sense to me. But I think, you know, first 58 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: of all, in this stage where where uh Anthony Davis 59 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: is not playing, I still expect to see a lot 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: of Marcusol. And I would imagine that because Marcosol has 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: been playing so well. As I pointed, out the other day. 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: He's still shooting over from three in his last I 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: can't remember exactly something like his like a dozen games 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: on like four attempts per game, So he's still shooting 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: really well. He's a really high i Q defender. He 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: always ends up in the right spot. And then he 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: adds all of that, you know, uh, playmaking ability from 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the top of the key. It's one of the biggest 69 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: things that allows the Lakers to run their off ball 70 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: actions is having somebody like uh Marcosol at the top 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: of the key to make post entry passes to Montrese, 72 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: to allow batcuts from the guards who are usually not 73 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: that great at creating their own shots. So getting them 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: off the off the ball and on the move is 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: a is a way to kind of unlock them. Um. 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: So I still think Marcusol has to play um, but 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: it'll just be interesting to see. And it all comes 78 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: down to attitude. You know. There was something a little 79 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: weird about what Frank Vocal said in that press or 80 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, just about how like everyone in the locker 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: room loves Mark and we he's such a pro and 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: all this other stuff. There wasn't anything where he directly 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: came out and said Marcosol is okay with the fact 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: that his minutes might be cut. Um, So I hope 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: it's not something that he dislikes. And if it costs 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers, Marcusol, if he ends up getting bought out, 87 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: that would make me really sad, because I do think 88 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: that he brings some versatility in the playoffs for them. Um. 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: But I I also that doesn't change the fact that 90 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: I think Andrew Drummond's gonna be really effective, and I've 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: been watching a lot of tape on him as of late, 92 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: and I'm really really excited to watch tonight's game because 93 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's he's infusion of talent on 94 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: a team that, without Lebron and a D, is at 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: a talent disadvantage, and so getting him in a situation 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: like this where you know, in this first couple of weeks, 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: I do think there will be some sloppiness. You're gonna 98 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: see a little bit of that calvs Andre Drummond, him 99 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: throwing up crazy shots. You're gonna see a little bit 100 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: of that until Lebron and a D get back. But 101 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: the infusion of talent is unmistakable and and gives them 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: a little bit better chance of stealing games that are 103 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: in that fringe. You know, it's easy for them to 104 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: beat Orlando when they're as shorthanded as they are. They're 105 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: it's easy for them to beat Cleveland with as bad 106 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: as Cleveland is. But a team like Toronto's slumping and 107 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: has traded some guys, but they are still a well 108 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: coached team that plays extremely hard and has a certain 109 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: amount of talent. That's a fringe game that with Andre Drummond, 110 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: the Lakers have a chance to steal. And another example 111 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: of a game like that is like the New York 112 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Knicks in years past, the New York Knicks, that's a win, 113 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: but with this year, with as well as they've been playing, 114 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: that's not an easy win. And my guest is without 115 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: Andre Drummond, that's a game the Lakers would lose. And 116 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Andre Drummond, the infusion of town, it gives them a 117 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: better chance of winning that particular game. And when you 118 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: look at the standings, as crazy as things have been, thankfully, 119 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: because the Bucks keep losing games and the Clippers keep 120 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: losing games and ky you know, the Nets lost the 121 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: game the other day because when Kyrie was out, like 122 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: the there's still some inconsistency at the top of the 123 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Lakers at the top of the NBA standings, and the 124 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Lakers are only two and a half games out of 125 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: the number two overall seed, which is insane. Two and 126 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: a half games out of the number one overall seed. 127 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: And what that means is like, you know, if you 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: can steal like game against the Raptors, if you can 129 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: steal that game against the New York Knicks, now all 130 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have an opportunity to bring Lebron 131 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: in a d back, you know, like in a month 132 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: and still be potentially within you know, four games of 133 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: the number two overall seed. That that is at least 134 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: within you know, that gives you a puncher's chance at 135 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: making a run to get back up near the top 136 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: of the standings, to hopefully get yourself in a position 137 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: where you don't have to play a Utah or Phoenix 138 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: or the Clippers are Denver in the first round, which 139 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: to me would be ideal. Obviously, I still would pick 140 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: the Lakers out of the West as long as they're healthy, 141 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: regardless of what their seed is. But you know, uh, 142 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: they have a chance here to to kind of to 143 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: to kind of rectify some of that. A question in 144 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: the comments is what's the biggest strength Andre Drummond brings 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: to the Lakers. To me, it's size and physicality. It's 146 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: really that simple. The biggest thing that the Lakers brought 147 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: to the table last year was just ridiculous size and physicality. 148 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: They traded some of that out when they let go 149 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: of Javail and Dwight in favor of some more skill, 150 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, bringing in Marcus Solo, who is a much 151 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: more skilled big. Montrese Harrold is not as physically imposing 152 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: as a big, but that is more skilled in isolation, 153 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: a guy that could actually attack mismatches and score, a 154 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: guy who's a really really good offensive rebounder. Now you 155 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: bring in uh, Andre Drummond, and you're kind of getting 156 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: a better version of Dwight to bring back that physicality 157 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: while still having the marcusol and Montrese Harold on the 158 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: roster for the more skilled options in the front court. 159 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: And you know, this is what I think is super 160 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: interesting about the LaMarcus Aldridge signing. Uh. When you're in 161 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: a playoff series, it helps to just have other options. 162 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: It helps to just have you know, other cards in 163 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: your deck that you can go to when things aren't 164 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: working out. It's counters, it's audible. So that's the way 165 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: these playoffs series works. You move a guy in and 166 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: out of the starting lineup, you move a guy in 167 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: and out of the rotation, You shrink your rotation, you 168 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: simplify things, you overcomplicate things, You do whatever it takes 169 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: to try to regain control of a series that's slipping 170 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: out of your grasp. And even though, yeah, LaMarcus Aldres 171 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: is not a great defensive player, yeah, and there switching scheme, 172 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna get attacked a lot, but the same could 173 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: be said about a lot of the guys on that roster, 174 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: especially in that fifth starter position alongside you know, uh, 175 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, UH, James Harden and and uh 176 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: and Joe Harris. So that fifth guy is is gonna 177 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: be flawed no matter what. And having a guy like 178 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge on your roster, that just gives you another 179 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: angle that you can go to. Okay, Blake's knee is 180 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: swelling and he's not gonna be able to play in 181 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: the first round, we can go to LaMarcus. Jeff Green 182 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: goes super cold and he's not making shots the way 183 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: he used to. We can go to LaMarcus. Uh. You know, 184 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Game one and two of the series are bench line 185 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: up to start the second quarter, can't score, We're gonna go. 186 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,479 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to LaMarcus Aldridge. Having that just options 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: in the deck is the best way to give yourself 188 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: a chance to adjust over the course of the playoff series. 189 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: I thought LaMarcus Aldridge was the best buyout guy available. 190 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. As a Laker fan, you should 191 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: be stoked to have Andre Drummond, and I do think 192 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna do a lot for the Lakers. However, I 193 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: thought on Aldridge was clearly the most talented player in 194 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: that set. But that sort of versatility is the same 195 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: thing that the Lakers gain with Andre Drummond. It's just 196 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: an option. They can go huge, and they can play 197 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, uh, Lebron and Alex Crusoe and Can Davids 198 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Cobble Pope and Anthony Davis Andre Drummond and just have 199 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: a ridiculously big, versatile defensive lineup that just swallows teams up. 200 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: Or they can go small with a d at the 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: five and Lebron at the four. Or they can go big, 202 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: but more skill oriented. With like a guy like uh 203 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder at the point and with Marcusol at the five, 204 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: they have all this versatility that they can go to now. 205 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: And I don't think you can have enough of that. 206 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: And so I hope that Marcusol doesn't get too upset 207 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: about the role that he's in and that he hangs 208 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: in there, because I do think that he can be 209 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: a real advantage for the for the Lakers moving forward. 210 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: I saw the Clippers signed to Marcus Cousins and and 211 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting to me because you know, if you if 212 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: you were to jokingly build a list of the guys 213 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: and the moves that you would hope the Clippers would 214 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: make as a Laker fan and uh in hopes that 215 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: they would not maximize their talent, you would have said 216 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: Region Rondo and DeMarcus Cousins. Which is funny because DeMarcus Cousins. 217 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: I feel terrible for the guy. He said he's been 218 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: dealt a really shitty hand cards, But the truth of 219 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: the matter is is he doesn't really bring anything on 220 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: either end of the floor. He's nowhere near mobile enough 221 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: to do anything other than spot up shoot on offense 222 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: and on defense. He's absolute barbecue chicken. So I I 223 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: don't think he helps anything for them. Uh. Any minute 224 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: that they don't play Zoobach at the five or or 225 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Surgebaka at the five to me, feels like a win 226 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: for the opponent. Um. And then you know, the Rondo 227 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: thing has been super interesting because you're get seeing a 228 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: mixed opinions from everybody I've seen. You know, about half 229 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: of the analysts that I trust say, you know, this 230 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: is hilarious. You know, Rondo's been garbage. There's nothing good 231 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: that he brings to the table. This is going to 232 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: hurt them. And then really people that I really respected, 233 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: like for instance, Zack Low waxed eloquent and his most 234 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: recent podcast about how Region Rondo undeniably uh fit a 235 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: need that the Clippers had, And I think that's interesting. 236 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: You know. My take on it is like, uh, there 237 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: were a lot of really really big plays and big 238 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: shots and big games that Region Rondo had last year 239 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: in the Laker Jersey, uh, four or five of which 240 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: took place in the playoffs where he played really, really 241 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: well and it helped the Lakers get over the top. 242 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: But the entire experience with Region Rondo was never about 243 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: the good. Uh, it was about the bad that got 244 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: mixed into it. It's all relative. It's like the talent 245 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: Horton Tucker experience. It's the same reason why talent Horton Tucker, 246 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion, will fall out of the rotation. It's 247 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: not about the good. It looks great when it looks great, uh. 248 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: And he attacks the close out and makes one of 249 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: his crazy behind the layups or gets a steal with 250 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: his ridiculously long arms and strong hands, and and and 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: and gets out on the break and makes a play. 252 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: It looks great when it looks great. But because he's 253 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: young and he's in consistent, he makes these mistakes. And 254 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: the most important thing, alongside Lebron and n a D 255 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: is consistency and getting guys that are gonna uh do 256 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: a kind of like toe, a line of more consistent 257 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: average play than the chaotic up and down that can 258 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: throw your team off. There were games in the playoffs 259 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: last year that I thought the Lakers lost not because 260 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: of Rondo, but largely because of Rondo, Like where he 261 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: where his turnovers, inability to make shots, in ability to 262 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: take shots because he loses his confidence and stops shooting, 263 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: and then defensively, he's one of He's one of those 264 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: guys that when he's actually caring and giving a ship 265 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: on on defense, he looks great. But in the entire 266 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: playoff games, he would go crazy and gamble and get 267 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: out of position and it would hurt the entire defense. 268 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: And so I don't necessarily view him as a as 269 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: a guy who really helps uh the Clipper offense. So 270 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: what the Clippers would tell you is that Region Rondo 271 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: is a playmaker that will help set up Kauai and 272 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Paul George and get people in the right spots. But 273 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: I actually disagree with that because I don't think of 274 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: Rondo as your stereotypical playmaker to get guys in the 275 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: right spots in terms of stars where Rondo is good 276 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: because Rondo is an assist hunter. And what I mean 277 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: by that is he's that guy that dribble dribble dribble 278 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: dribbles waiting for someone to cut, and he loves to 279 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: throw that pass at the basket for layups or or 280 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: to an open shooter on the wing. He's not a 281 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: he's not a like a run the offense kind of guy. 282 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: He's I Am the offense kind of guy. And when 283 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: it when he is creating shots and he is kicking 284 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: out the shooters and he's hitting guys under the basket, 285 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: it looks great. But when he's not getting as much 286 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: separation and when he's not able to draw the defense 287 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: towards him, which is what happened to him a lot 288 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, he doesn't look great. I 289 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: always thought that a guy like Ricky Rubio made more 290 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: sense for the Clippers because he's a run the offense guy. 291 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: He's the we're looking for a Kauai post up here, 292 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: but we were on a we want to run the 293 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: Qui post up when he has a mismatch, so we're 294 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: gonna get everybody to the right spot. I'm gonna call 295 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: this guy to go run a pin down instead of 296 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: really hard screen on kwais Man to try to force 297 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: the switch, and then we're gonna clear out, and then 298 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna go down to Kuai in the post and 299 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: now he's gonna attack. That was always something that I like. 300 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: There's a difference between assist hunting, in my opinion, and 301 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: like true point guard play, and that difference is why 302 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: I was never super stoked about what Rondo would bring 303 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: to the table for any team, and uh, and why 304 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be great for the Clippers. I 305 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: could end up being very wrong. And like I said, 306 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: I really really respect Zach Low and he seems to 307 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: disagree with me. So if if I end up being wrong, 308 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: I'll happily admit that I'm wrong. Um, but I I 309 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: don't think Rondo is gonna really help them. Question from 310 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: the comments says, do you think Rondo gets major minutes 311 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: on the clips? I think his role is gonna look 312 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: really similar to what it did on the Lakers. I mean, like, 313 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: could you believe how much Rondo play? He played a lot. 314 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: There were stretches where Rondo would play thirteen fourteen straight 315 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: minutes and cruise. I wouldn't see the floor, and so 316 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: that that's where it gets tricky. I would imagine that 317 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: it will be a very a very similar role. Um. 318 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: Someone in the comments says he was able to do 319 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: that in Boston in my opinion, but as he's grown, 320 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: he's become less of a true point guard in that regard. Well, 321 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: in in Boston, for starters, he was a lot more athletic, 322 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: and and then secondly, he was around such a huge 323 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: set of egos that he wasn't allowed to dribble drible, 324 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: drible drib dribble, dribble, dribble. But the truth of the 325 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: matter is, if you look back, that was part of 326 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: the reason why Boston got rid of Rondo was because 327 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: he kind of transitioned into that phase there in like 328 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: two thousand ten, two thousand eleven, two thousand twelve. Rondo 329 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: got out of that, uh, that kind of a style, 330 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: that that kind of behind the scenes type of style 331 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: that he had in two thousands and seven, two thousand 332 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: two or two thousand and eight, thousand nine, thou ten, 333 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: And that was part of the reason why that broke 334 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: up and ended up being a problem with him everywhere 335 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: he went. It's the reason why he didn't get along 336 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: with Rick Carlyle. It's just this he's he's kind of 337 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: like he overcontrols things in the beauty full thing about 338 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: what a point guard does. A good point guard is 339 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: there's he toes that line because the point guard has 340 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: the ball in their hands all the time. And so 341 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: a point guard that understands that even though I have 342 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: the ball in my hands, I'm actually not in control. 343 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: It's me. It's about me seeding control to other people 344 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: strategically at specific points. This guy hasn't had a shot 345 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: in a while. We got to get him in a rhythm, like, Okay, 346 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: Lebron has missed a few shots in a row, or 347 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: Kauai has missed a few shots in a row. How 348 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: do I get Kauai in a position where he can 349 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: shoot again but have a better chance of succeeding so 350 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: that he can get his rhythm going. Um So, but 351 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked too much about it already, but 352 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that he's gonna change much. Al right, 353 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: So next I wanted to really quickly talk about J 354 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: J Reddick. So this is super interesting to me. The 355 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: report comes out, it wasn't even reported, came out on 356 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: his podcast. You guys have seen it on the feed 357 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: if you haven't looked already. Um basically came out and 358 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: said I was. I had requested to trade before the season, 359 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: right after the Drew Holiday trade, and I contacted the 360 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: front office and said I wanted to be traded. They said, 361 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: why don't you come down to the team for a 362 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: month and if you if you like it, then you 363 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: can stay. If not, then we'll get you somewhere. Where 364 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: you want to go or either buy you out or 365 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: we'll trade you to somewhere in the Northeast. And he 366 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: talked about how because of the pandemic, anytime he goes 367 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: into anytime his family moves across the state line and 368 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: they come back, they have to deal with this like 369 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: quarantine stuff, and so he felt like, um, the front 370 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: office was dishonest. Now there there's been a lot of 371 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: slander throne at JJ Reddick since this podcast came out, 372 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: talking about how he doesn't dictate that type of special treatment. 373 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I 374 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: mean I would have liked JJ Reddick as a buyout 375 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: guy with the with the Lakers, and I still think 376 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: he's a good eighth or nine demand in your rotation. 377 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: But I agree in the sense that he doesn't dictate 378 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: what a star dictates. But people always forget about the 379 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: human element in business. It's always easy to to act 380 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: as though everything is a business only relationship. I work 381 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: in real estate, so like when I sell a house, 382 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: I make a lot of money, but there is a difference. 383 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: There's a fine line with whether or not someone is 384 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: worth the trouble. And it's only happened to me a 385 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: couple of times since I've been in the business, but 386 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: I have worked with people before where even though it 387 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: is a big fat paycheck, I would never work with 388 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: that person again because of how miserable they were to 389 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: work with. There's a human element to all of this stuff. 390 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: So you might pretend as though J. J. Reddick doesn't 391 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: dictate this. However, dishonesty from a front office that builds 392 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: a reputation and that absolutely can hurt you in the 393 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: In the back end, JJ Reddick never would have given 394 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: a damn if he went to them and said, Hey, 395 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: I want to be up in Brooklyn and then, uh, 396 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, David Griffin looked back at him and said, 397 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, j J. I am obligated per my job 398 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: description to do what's best for the team, and that 399 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: means I might trade you somewhere else. I'm just letting 400 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: you know up front, it's part of my job description. 401 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: It would be wrong for me to this franchise to 402 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: do anything else. At least then in that case J. J. 403 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Reddick will be like, well, this sucks, but I signed 404 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: a contract to be here and this guy is just 405 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: doing his job. When you break that barrier, when you 406 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: cross the line into being dishonest, you start to build 407 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: that reputation, and that kind of thing gets to the 408 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: point where people are gonna be like, I would rather 409 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: not work with you. And that's where it gets to 410 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: the point where you're trying to sign a shooter to 411 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: play with Zion, and and the shooter maybe you offer 412 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: just as much money as some other team elsewhere in 413 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: the league, but that little bit of dishonest reputation that 414 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: you build um ends up being a deal breaker, and 415 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: then that and you end up missing out on deals 416 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: down the line. And so what I think is interesting 417 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: about that is like you've got You've got Zion, who 418 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: foolishly all of these media companies are talking about how 419 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: he should get out and go to a big market, 420 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: which we've all agreed as stupid. There's every every single 421 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: truly great basketball player ever has been able to build 422 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: a brand, whether they live in Oklahoma City or where 423 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: they whether they lived in Cleveland or anything. Because they 424 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: all live in l A during the summer and they 425 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: all are touring for shoot with shoe companies around the globe, 426 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But you're you're already struggling with this 427 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: concept that Zion may eventually uh want to leave New 428 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Orleans and now and we all heard like Zion loves 429 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: playing with j J. Zion went on JJ's podcast earlier 430 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: this year and they talked at length about how much 431 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: they enjoy playing with each other and the extensive stretches 432 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: this year where they had success running dribble handoff actions 433 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: where Zion would be a ball handler and all this 434 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: other stuff, like you mean to tell me Zion is 435 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: not gonna have a phone conversation with j J and 436 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: be like, hey, j J, what happened? And and JJ 437 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: is gonna tell him what happened? And so I think, 438 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: like I think, you know David Griffin. David Griffin has 439 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: a reputation as a great GM strictly because of something 440 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: that Braun did with with the Cleveland Cavaliers, and a 441 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff he's been is non done. His 442 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: nonsensical didn't make any sense to sign stay in van Gundi. 443 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: He was a coach that was from a bygone era 444 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: in the and and was gonna naturally struggle with defensive 445 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: schemes and stuff that work and this era. And then 446 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: and then you go and sign you trade for Steven 447 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: Adams which whatever, but then you extend him and and 448 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: that made absolutely no sense given the fact that he 449 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: doesn't shoot the ball well and Zion Zion Zion is 450 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: literally running the best offense in the league over this 451 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: most recent span. I can't remember the exact number of games, 452 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: but the Pelicans are number one in offense and he's 453 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: doing that with terrible spacing, in large part because of 454 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: of the decisions that David Griffin has made. So I 455 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: I think that that that whole thing is off to 456 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: a really bad start in the in the Zion experiment, 457 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: all right, So I wanted to talk about this Kevin Duranting, 458 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: so I myself sent out a tweet shortly after the 459 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldrige thing, um, foolishly comparing them to the to 460 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: the two thousand seventeen Warriers. And I was stupid. I 461 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: was just overreacting, um, But I just where that came from. 462 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: The place that that came from was the simple fact 463 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: that the that the UH the Brooklyn Nets for beating 464 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: the ship out of everybody, They're beating the ship out 465 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: of everybody easily limited without UH, without Kevin Durant, and 466 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: even in a lot of games without Kyrie Irving because 467 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: they because James Harden is extremely good, he's one of 468 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: the best, He's probably the best regular season player of 469 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: this era, and they're switching defensive scheme is completely throwing 470 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: everybody off because it's it's difficult to handle in one 471 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: game sample sizes when you can't scheme for it tonight 472 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: after night, and uhum, a lot of the role players 473 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: are playing better than we expected. Jeff Green and I, 474 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: as I've said at length, is like the best veteran 475 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: minimum guy in the entire league. He's consistently on veteran 476 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: minimums and then every team that he's on, he's plays 477 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: like a fifteen million dollar a year player. Doesn't make 478 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: any sense to me that a guy like Danilo Gallinari 479 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: can go out and get twenty something million a year, 480 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: but Jeff Green is gonna get two point seven, Like, 481 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: someone please explain that to me. And then Joe Harris 482 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: is just one of the best spot up shooters in 483 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: the league who can also make shots on the move 484 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: and is an average two above average defensive players. So 485 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: they're just way better than I thought. And so my 486 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: tweet was strictly just like man and then I talked 487 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: about at length earlier about why I thought LaMarcus Aldridge 488 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: was the best buyout candidate available. So I was just 489 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, getting off my chest the fact that I 490 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: thought it was crazy. I talented this team is. And 491 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: then Kevin Duran's coming back, you know, the guy who 492 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't think is the best player in the league, 493 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: but the guy that a lot of people think is 494 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: the best player in basketball is coming back and joining 495 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: all of this. And so, you know, obviously there's a 496 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: lot of crazy people, particularly and in the in uh, 497 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, the Lebron James fan base, which is seven 498 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: and has a lot of crazies. In the fringes. They 499 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: were constantly saying about how this is unfair, and you know, 500 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: Katie's always stack in the deck and blah blah, blah blah. 501 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: And there are a couple of things that I think 502 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: are interesting about that. First of all, as I've said 503 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: at length, Lebron also tries to stack the deck. He's 504 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: just not as good at it like Kevin Durant. If 505 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: he has a talent, it's that he's he's good at 506 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: putting this sort of thing together. And he's done it 507 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: in two different ways. Now. He did it by straight 508 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: up signing with the Golden State Warriors because of a 509 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: cap spike, uh and a team that had already won 510 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: seventy three games and came within a couple of minutes 511 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: of winning the title the previous year, and then he 512 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: did a different version of it here in Brooklyn. He's 513 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: absolutely better at building that type of team. However, the 514 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: flip side of that is, like, you know, there is 515 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: there is a reality, a harsh reality to the way 516 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: that we discussed basketball. It's a team sport, right, It's 517 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: a It's not like comparing, uh, you know, Jimmy Johnson 518 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: to Jeff Gordon when you're strictly talking about a bunch 519 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: of guys in identical vehicles racing in a circle under 520 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: identical circumstances, and you have and there's only one person involved, 521 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: and it's very clear cut who the winner is. It's 522 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: a team sport and the only result that we have 523 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: his team results. So all of us, myself included, and 524 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: every single one of the millions of people on Twitter, 525 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: they come up with their own opinion about how this 526 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: one individual plays a role in the larger scheme of 527 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: what the team is trying to do, and all of 528 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: that is subjective. We do our best to try to 529 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: build all of that together into a story of why 530 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: we think player A is better than player B. But 531 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: no matter what it's subjective, it is up for debate. 532 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: And the problem with Kevin Durant being so good at 533 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: putting himself in situations where the team is so incredible, 534 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: he makes it easy for the people who don't like 535 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: him to undercut what he does on the basketball court. 536 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: And and that's the thing that's funny, is like Lebron, 537 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, because he's less good at it. He joined 538 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: the Miami Heat team, you know, and didn't properly account 539 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: for the fact that Dwyane Wade, as a chaotic, driving, 540 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: slashing guard, was probably going to break down, and that 541 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: had already experienced health issues in a previous season where 542 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: his shoulder came out because he was falling on the 543 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: ground like crazy. The uh, he didn't properly account for that, 544 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: and then the Miami Heat broke down, and so he 545 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: even though he won two titles there, there's a perception 546 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: that surrounds what he did in Miami that made it 547 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: look difficult and the stakes in like Game six, after 548 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Chris Bosh tore his abdominal muscle, and they're about to 549 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: lose to the Boston Celtics. The circumstances of the Wheels 550 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: coming off of what he tried to build in Miami 551 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: forced him to play so incredibly well to save that 552 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: team that now the entire perception surrounding that team is 553 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: Lebron was amazing and that's the only reason why they 554 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 1: one go on to two thousand thirteen, same thing. They 555 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: go to Game seven against the Pacers. They go to 556 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: Game seven against the Spurs. They're down ten in Game six. 557 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, Lebron goes crazy. This is the game. 558 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: He loses his head band, and then he scores an 559 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: assists on every point in overtime, and then he goes 560 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: off for thirty seven or whatever in Game seven to 561 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: barely beat the Spurs. Again, the perception around that team 562 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: is Lebron was amazing and that's why they won. But 563 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: because Kevin Durant has put himself in these situations where 564 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: the team is so so good, he hasn't had to 565 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: be that good for the team to win. So now 566 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: you can point to, oh, he made he made a 567 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: shot over Lebron in Game three of a series that 568 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: the Warriors probably would have swept if they tried hard 569 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: in Game four, and they probably would have gone undefeated 570 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: in the entire playoff run. And then the following year, 571 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: they literally b s through the entire season and they 572 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: still uh win the title, not defending nearly as well 573 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: as they had in years past. Kevin Durant basically broke 574 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: away from the offense and started doing crazy isolation stuff 575 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: all the time. It is a problem that started to 576 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: build between him and kerr And and literally the even 577 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: though they were nowhere near as good as they were 578 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: the previous here, they didn't play nearly as well as 579 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: they did the previous here, they still won. And so 580 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: the perception surrounding that team once again is that they 581 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: didn't need Kevin Durant. And then what do you know, 582 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen, Draymond basically says that to Kevin 583 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Durant while calling him a bit, and it continues to 584 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: build that narrative, and now he finds himself in that 585 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: situation again. Here he is in Brooklyn and the team 586 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: appears to be a championship contender without Kevin Durant. I 587 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I'd picked them over Philly but 588 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: there's a chance that I might pick them over Philly 589 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: even if Kevin Durant never plays again. That's how good 590 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: the team is. And so the downside to him being 591 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: so good at building these types of teams is that 592 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: he puts himself in this situation where that subjective analysis 593 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: of what he brings individual individually to the team is different, 594 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: and it's clouded because now it just looks like he's 595 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: kind of out there just doing k D stuff and 596 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: the team's winning. Anyway, Whereas you look back at two 597 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen Lebron, in two thousand and twelve, two thousand 598 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: and thirteen Lebron, it's like, man, if he wasn't every 599 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: single bit of the best version of what he could be, 600 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: they would have lost. Literally, they would have lost in 601 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: the Conference uh Finals against the Boston Celtics in two 602 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: thousand twelve. If he wasn't amazing, they would have lost 603 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: in the in the in the finals against the Spurs 604 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen. If he wasn't amazing, they would 605 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: have lost to the to the to the Warriors, if 606 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: he wasn't amazing. Even this Lakers season in when when 607 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: they were favored throughout, but there was still a great 608 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: deal of pessimism surrounding that team because the rest of 609 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: the roster after lebron Na d wasn't that talented. There 610 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: was this perception like, oh, they might lose to Portland, 611 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: they might lose to Houston, they might lose to Denver. 612 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: Denver just beat the Clippers. Oh, like a third of 613 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: the analysis UH analysts picked the Miami Heat to beat 614 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers. Now, that perception is, they overcame a lot 615 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: of this stuff, even though that was probably the weakest 616 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: of his four championships. And that's all it is, is 617 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: like you know, if you were if you're a simple 618 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: man in terms of the way you feel about the public, 619 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: like Steph Curry is a great example of this. Steph 620 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: Curry doesn't give a damn when any of you guys 621 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: think that's why he had Kevin Durant come on board 622 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: in the first place. Steph Curry doesn't give a damn. 623 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: He just likes winning basketball games. So he's more than 624 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: happy not caring about your subjective analysis. Any subjective person 625 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: who's in analyzing, and we're gona talking about Steph Lebrown 626 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: here in a second, any subjective person looking at the 627 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: Steph Lebron. Thing is like, yeah, you went three and 628 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: one against him, but you added Kevin Durant for those 629 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: last two. So it's not exactly an even playing field. 630 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: So whatever the differences between you and Lebron, it's certainly 631 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: not three to one finals. It's some other sort of analysis. 632 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: And he subjective person is going to say that. However, 633 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: Steph doesn't care because he doesn't care what you think, 634 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: and he doesn't care what I think. He's happy. He 635 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: just likes winning. Kevin duran is different. That's why he 636 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: left the Warriors to begin with. He does care about 637 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. He might tell you he doesn't. 638 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: He might come on Twitter and and act a certain way, 639 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: but he obviously cares about that stuff. Otherwise he never 640 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: would have left Golden State to begin with. So it's 641 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: just it's just unfortunate because now he's because he's so 642 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: good at this, picking a situation and maximizing it. Because 643 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: he's so good at this, he's put himself in a 644 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: situation where if he wins the title again this year 645 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: and James Harden and Kyrie play great, and Lamark Saldiers 646 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: helps him off the bench and all this other stuff, 647 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be another trophy sitting in his trophy case 648 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: and another Finals MVP in another series where he maybe 649 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: outplayed Lebron, even though people oversimplify that as well, There's 650 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: gonna be another one there where the vast majority of 651 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: basketball twitters gonna be like, all right, fine, you want 652 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: again with a ridiculously good team. That's the unfortunate part. 653 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: And you know, again this is shallow, but just as 654 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: a basketball fan, I want to see Kevin Durant have 655 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: his two thousand, twelve Lebron games sixth moment. I want 656 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: to see Kevin Durant back against the wall, going to 657 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: lose unless he rises to the absolute peak of what 658 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant can be as a basketball player and he 659 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: brings a team over the top. That's what we want 660 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: to see. And it because that that that is what 661 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: brings the best out of you. Like that, that that 662 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: performing performance from Lebron in that game thirty in the 663 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: first half. Lebron never does that. He's never that aggressive 664 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: as of a of a score. He strictly did that 665 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: out of necessity. The necessity, the steaks, the fear of 666 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: loss is what brings the best out of these guys 667 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: and So that's the thing, like, just as a basketball fan, 668 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: you'd prefer to see in for the record, I might 669 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: still pick the Lakers against this next team. I might. 670 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: I feel like that'd be lying in the face of 671 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: tons of evidence because of how good this Brooklyn Nets 672 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: team has been. But we might see how how difficult 673 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: it is for the Nets, and we might earn that 674 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: respect for Kevin Durant this year. But but if it 675 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: does look really easy, that's where you're gonna have all 676 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: that doubt creep in from all the people. But but 677 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: if you're stuff, it's the reason why step doesn't care 678 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: is he's like, y'all aren't gonna like me anyway. And 679 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: that's the mentality that I would have. KD is like, 680 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: you guys aren't gonna like me anyway. So I'm just 681 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: gonna win easy championships and who cares what you guys think. 682 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm happy and now I have three rings. That that's 683 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: the way that he should look at it. I just 684 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: don't think he's necessarily wired that way. One last thing 685 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: before we're out of here, alrighty um, so the uh 686 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: I saw a tweet from um This is from the 687 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Lebertard Show. So I haven't actually listened to it yet. 688 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: I've just seen you guys talking about it. But there's 689 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: apparently somebody on the Dan Lambertard Show said that if 690 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: Lebron was swapped for Steph on this year's Warriors team, 691 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: that they could win an NBA championship. That's obviously completely ridiculous. 692 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: And this is the most frustrating thing about the Lebron 693 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: and Steph conversation is everything everybody says is completely ridiculous. 694 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: The other day, the Warriors literally won a game against 695 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bowls, who are working in new pieces and 696 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: our a bottom tier playoff team in the Eastern Conference, 697 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 1: and everybody in Warrior's Twitter was on the timeline saying 698 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: that Steph Curry's the best player in basketball. Again, it's 699 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: like they're operating from a complete uh you know, asinine 700 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: plays themselves. But you've got all these other people on 701 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: the other side that say equally crazy things about what 702 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: step can't do, and and it and it ruins what 703 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: should be a really interesting conversation, which is the difference 704 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: between Lebron and Steph. For the record, coming into the season, 705 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: I said Steph was the second best player in basketball. 706 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: I said that because I also see the value that 707 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: he brings offensively to a basket team, the amount of 708 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: attention he gave Gardners, the the ability for other players 709 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: around him to play an easier form of basketball because 710 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: of what he does off the ball. All of those 711 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: things I believe in, and I do think he's arguably 712 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: the best offensive player in basketball. I think him and 713 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Lebron and Nicol Yogi is another guy like this who 714 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: are are so unbelievably good offensively that you can build 715 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: an entire system around them, and I would put them 716 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: all on the same tier. The reason why I think 717 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: Lebron is better and it's a scene shallow again, and 718 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: it's something that you will never be able to argue 719 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: with Steph fans about because they love that he's small. 720 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: It's like part of his likability to them. But Lebron 721 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: has this physical gear that he can hit in these 722 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: playoffs series that Steph can't hit. And it's the reason 723 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: why there's always been this discernible gap between the two 724 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: of them. For me, even when Steph is at his 725 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: absolute peak, I think there's a gap between what he 726 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: does and what Lebron does. And it's that physicality. I'll 727 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: give you just a random example, fourth quarter against the 728 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets in Game five, the Nuggets almost come back 729 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: there to start the fourth quarter, Lebron goes on his 730 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: crazy run. In that crazy run, there's a play where 731 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: he gets Jamal Murray on the switch and he does 732 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: an aggressive driving move to the right, and he does 733 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: a really really hard physical spin move, and in the 734 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: spin move, he covers a ridiculous amount of ground. He 735 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: starts outside the right side of the block and finishes 736 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: outside the left side of the block on the spin move, 737 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: and he knocks down this turnaround jump shot over the top. 738 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: It was one of several jump shots that he hit 739 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: at the end of that game. And that is the 740 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: physical gear that Lebron can hit that Steph is incapable 741 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: of hitting, and it's the reason why I give him 742 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: an edge over step in a lot of those cases. 743 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about defense. There's a whole other 744 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: conversation we can add about what Lebron brings defensively to 745 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: the table. The most iconic play of his career is 746 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: him hitting an extra gear physically to block his shot 747 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: from Andrea Guadala that literally change the ends at the 748 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: end of an NBA finals championship series. So that's a 749 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: whole other conversation. I'm not even gonna get into that 750 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: because I don't even think it's worth debate. There's a 751 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: massive chasm between the two defensively, but even offensively, that 752 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: physical gear matters because also at the end of the 753 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen finals, Steph couldn't get separation. Now people 754 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: will tell you it's because of his knee, but for 755 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: some reason he was having no trouble getting separation against 756 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder, and he did have success in 757 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: late round playoff series getting separation against in two thousand 758 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: seventeen and two thousand eighteen, but he had this whole 759 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: other release Valve and Kevin Duranted that made it so 760 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 1: that his physical wear and tear what he was asked 761 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: to do offensively wasn't the same. But you saw it 762 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: again against Toronto in the two thousand nineteen finals. He 763 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: just wasn't quite as good at generating that separation in 764 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: a really physical playoff series that wore down on him 765 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: when he had a lot of playmaking responsibility. Meanwhile, Lebron James, 766 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: you know he's playing with the post player who also 767 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: it's a lot of touches. But at the same time, 768 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: Lebron was their primary offensive initiator on almost every possession, 769 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: yet he was able to hit a physical gear to 770 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: create shots off the dribble that Steph isn't able to hit. 771 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: And to me, that physical gear, I know it's superficial. 772 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: I know it bothers people because you you're dying for 773 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: this like small guy hero that you can have as 774 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: your your go to uh you know, uh guy to 775 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: root for because you can be like him. Okay, that's great, 776 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: but I'm sorry that physicality does matter. I am six 777 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: ft six, I wait two and seven pounds. I have 778 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: a six ten wingspan. My ability to get separation against 779 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: people on the perimeter is unparalleled compared to any small 780 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: guard that I run into. I I like my chances 781 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: to generate a high quality shot over any of those 782 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: guys because I've put the work in to have that 783 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: polish out there. But at the same time, I have 784 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: these zical tools and I'm not even in the same 785 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: universe physically as what Lebron does. But I have five 786 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: times the physical tools that Steph Curry has, and that 787 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: sort of thing does matter in a in a physical 788 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: playoff series. That wears people down in by game six. 789 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: In game seven, everyone's banged up, everyone's tired. But that's 790 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: two seventy pounds six nine guy, for whatever reason, can 791 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: still get separation, and he can still get into your 792 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: body and play bullyball and all those sorts of things. 793 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: And I think that gap is significant, and that's the 794 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: reason why, even at steps absolute best, I never thought 795 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: he passed Lebron. Uh in terms of what he brings 796 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: on a basketball court. Good luck telling anybody that from 797 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: Warriors Twitter, there absolutely love with the guy, and I 798 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: think that's great. That's fantastic part of of the basketball 799 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: fan experience. However, the vast majority of people that you 800 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: talk to outside of Warriors Twitter, I feel like agree 801 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: with me in that regard. There's a difference. Uh, there's 802 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: a difference, queen. You know, being a really really gifted 803 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: offensive engine in the ability to hit that extra gear, 804 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: that that extra that extra gear is the is the 805 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: separation factor from the elite of the elite and the 806 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: guys beneath them. Um, do you guys have any questions 807 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: before I get you out of here, Let's see, are 808 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: you worried Lebron might not be fully healthy? With his 809 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: ankle spraying for the rest of the season. Yes, I 810 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: am worried, just because of the fact that I don't 811 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: love the idea of all these other guys peaking and 812 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: getting in a rhythm, guys like Jannice, guys like Kauai 813 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: and Kevin Duran is gonna be coming back here shortly 814 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: and having a lot of time to get ready. And 815 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: then apparently there's a report that came out this morning 816 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: that Sham said that it might have been last night 817 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: that Sham said that Lebron is gonna be out at 818 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: least another three to five weeks. Like, I don't love 819 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: the idea of Lebron getting ten regular season games and 820 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: then jumping into a first round series where he's gotta 821 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: play Steph Curry or he's got to play Loud or 822 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: something along those lines. I don't love it. Uh. If 823 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: there's one guy that can defy any sort of of uh, 824 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, basic common common sense type of approach to 825 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: this sort of thing, it would be Lebron. Um. But 826 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: I think we're all lying if we're acting like we're 827 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: super optimistic about the way it's gonna go. This is 828 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: so far from my deal. It's not even funny. It's 829 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: an impact injury. It's a lower leg injury, which means 830 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: he's literally not able to work out right now. Like that, 831 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: all of that is just not good. I will completely 832 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: change my take about that if he runs off a 833 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 1: three or four game stretch where he just looks physically great. Um, 834 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: when he comes back, I wouldn't look at all at 835 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: the way his jump shot looks, or the way his 836 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: handle looks, or any of that stuff. When he comes back, 837 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: I would pay strict attention to just the way he's 838 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: moving around in his mobility. Already, Let's see quick one 839 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: on the last roster spot for the Lakers. Who's your pick? 840 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: So I have a couple of names in mind. There. 841 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: He say I would love to have Auto Porter, But 842 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: it appears that he doesn't appeared to get it. Doesn't 843 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: look like he's gonna get bought out. Um, I was 844 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: super high on uh. Avery Bradley is a backup option, 845 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure he's necessarily gonna get bought out. 846 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: Avery Bradley was the guy that I had in mind 847 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: when I wanted the Lakers to make the Kyle the 848 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry trade. But it's I mean, honestly, at this point, 849 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: you know, you've got you've got a guard core that's 850 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: five deep, um and really really solid. You've got uh, 851 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzman and Lebron James on the wing, and you've 852 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: got five forwards in Mark Kief, Marcus Markief, marcusol Montrez, Harrold, 853 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: Andre Drummond, and uh and Anthony Davis. So you're the 854 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: Lakers are twelve deep right now, so they don't really 855 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: need anything. Uh. It's just if if auto Porter is 856 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: just an absolute no brainer, UM, but I just don't 857 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: think he'll get bought out. And for the record, if 858 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: auto Porter gets bought out and the Lakers signed him, 859 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: that's that would be the best buyout guy out of 860 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: any of these guys. Auto Porters like a legitimate at 861 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: three and D guy, um and like good on both 862 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: ends too. So he'd be an example of someone that 863 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: would kind of be similar in impact to what La 864 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: Marcus Aldridge brings to the to the nets. All right, 865 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: last question, I'll get you guys at here. How do 866 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: you think Tres's robot is affected by Drummond getting thirty 867 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: plus minutes? I don't know. I would imagine that Shred's 868 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: is going to continue to play a lot of minutes 869 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: at the power forward. The Lakers played a lot of 870 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: Montrez Harrold at the four this year, Um they haven't 871 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: played They played more at the five with Anthony Davis out, 872 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: but I expect him to play a lot at the 873 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: four the way he did to start the year. I 874 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: think the guy that's gonna get squeezed as Marcus Al alright, 875 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: guys again, thank you guys so much for just persevering 876 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: with me through that ridiculous WiFi saga. I think from 877 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: what I can tell on my end that there were 878 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: no drops today, so that's good news. As crazy as 879 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: it sounds. I was so discouraged in the middle of 880 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: that podcast on Friday that I was like after I 881 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: went back to listen too it just to see how 882 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: bad it was, and I remember thinking, like, this is 883 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: gonna be bad because I was so piste off. I 884 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: was literally just sitting in the chair just like seething 885 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: mad because I could not believe that this is still happening, 886 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: because I thought I had it solved by doing the 887 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: phone hotspot thing. Um. Anyway, even with that, over two 888 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: hundred of you downloaded the uh the full length podcast 889 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: that butchered up terrible podcast that Roger and I did 890 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: on Friday. So I sincerely appreciate you guys continuing to 891 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 1: support us through the through the chaos. But I will 892 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: be here for every one of these recorded podcasts for 893 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: so on, so I should have good infrastructure for this. 894 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys supporting. I'll have the podcast version 895 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: of this up here in about fifteen minutes and then 896 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: I will see you guys on Friday. Enjoy the rest 897 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: of your day.