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Speaker 1: M HM episode two thirty six, it's remembering Kenny Rogers

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to Matt Ramsey of Old Dominion, lead

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Speaker 1: singer of That Grew. Kenny Rodgers died over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I guess I saw a Saturday morning um and crazy

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Speaker 1: because I just looked at Kenny Rodgers and in newest

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Speaker 1: songs and obviously was a fan like everybody else. My

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Speaker 1: then later on in his life and early on in

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Speaker 1: my career in Nashville, we got to be I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say friends, but definitely friendly acquaintances where we would make

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Speaker 1: a point to see each other or talk to each other.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, woke up Saturday and saw the day

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Speaker 1: passed away was eighty one years old, and so I

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Speaker 1: kind of wanted to talk about that for a minute, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I did talk to Lionel Ritchie today

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Speaker 1: and the next couple of days will have him he's

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Speaker 1: gonna do the radio show, I'll talk about Kenny. But

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Speaker 1: he was like, hey, man, I'll do whatever, and so

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Speaker 1: it's just weird that I can just call line. I

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Speaker 1: was kind of well, because I never want to hit

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Speaker 1: up my friend ends to do my work stuff. It's

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Speaker 1: why I think Luke Brian comes on the show far

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Speaker 1: less now than he ever did before, because again, I

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Speaker 1: don't ask my friends to do much. You know. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to have Darius on the podcast. And last night

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Speaker 1: Darius and I were texting for like fifteen minutes. He

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Speaker 1: was sending me demos because he's he's recording songs and

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Speaker 1: all this quarantining, so I'm just writing and he's like,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about this song? And I normally

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Speaker 1: don't listen to demos, but I'm listening to this, going, well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, what weird life is this that you're

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Speaker 1: sending me demos and going what does this make you

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Speaker 1: think about? You know, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 1: But then I would never be like, hey, dude, come

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Speaker 1: on the Bobby. I don't know. It's just a weird

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Speaker 1: line to walk. So it's gonna be cool to have

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Speaker 1: Lion alone. That's awesome because he Lna. Richie really is

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Speaker 1: the greatest guy. And we'll talk about him coming up

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Speaker 1: in a second, because he wrote one of Keny Rogers

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Speaker 1: the biggest songs, so Kenny Rogers died at at eighty

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Speaker 1: one years old. By the numbers, he had twenty four

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Speaker 1: number one hits, sold over fifty million albums in the

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Speaker 1: US alone, six C M A S, three Grammys. The Gambler,

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Speaker 1: which I've mentioned on the show, I think is one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest songs of all time because massive song

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Speaker 1: many charts, multiple movies. He played the character in a

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Speaker 1: bunch of the movies. And this song isn't just about gambling.

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Speaker 1: I mean it really is a kind of a metaphor

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Speaker 1: for life. Like think about that. You gotta no one

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Speaker 1: to hold them, like stay in, stay in the fight,

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Speaker 1: no one to fold him when to go all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win this, so I'll put energy somewhere else,

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Speaker 1: of there. Like sure, it's about gambling, but that's like

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Speaker 1: a metaphor for life. You never count your money when

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Speaker 1: you're sitting at the table. You never count your chickens

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Speaker 1: before they hatch. So the Gambler comes out massive song,

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Speaker 1: And I talked to him about this in the interview

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Speaker 1: of the show. He was in the original record of

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Speaker 1: we all the world where they're all alright, Michael Jackson,

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Speaker 1: did Michael look this stuff for me? Did the Lionel

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Speaker 1: Richie right, we are the world? Good question because maybe

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie, you're correct. Written by Michael

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Speaker 1: that right, and I wouldn't know where it comes from

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Speaker 1: because sometimes I'll just recall, well, I'll recall thinks and

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Lionel Richie wrote, we have the world crazy? Huh.

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Speaker 1: He co chaired Kenny Hands Across America, a campaign which

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Speaker 1: thought to raise awareness about homeless and hungary in the

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Speaker 1: Kenny Rodgers announce his retirement. So this is by the numbers.

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Speaker 1: He did, you know, retired to spend time with his family.

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Speaker 1: Here's a quote. There are a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: I wanted you together, and I want to create some

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Speaker 1: And when he was on the show in two thousand

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Speaker 1: he had kids again. Later. His name is Kenneth Rogers,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about why he changed from Kenneth to Kenny,

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Speaker 1: because he was going by Kenneth for a long time

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Speaker 1: as a stage name. He was born eight He's a Texan.

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Speaker 1: While his name was Kenneth Donald on his birth certificate,

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Speaker 1: the Scholars and what you're gonna hear about Kenny. What

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Speaker 1: is interesting is the country was later on for him.

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Speaker 1: He was in jazz and rock. He did all this

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Speaker 1: a rockabilly band called the Scholars. Then he moved over

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Speaker 1: Christie Minstrels in nineteen sixty six. Let me know if

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Speaker 1: you have any clips of this stuff. I know where

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Speaker 1: a that's a that's Kenny Rogers condition, condition, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: but they were for um first edition and then they

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Speaker 1: h Kenny hit the top of the charts. Here you go.

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Speaker 1: You may know this one. This is Loocilli to Leave Me,

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Speaker 1: Lucy Mans and my Grandma all over it. It's about

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Speaker 1: I mean he was basically Dan and Jay before Dan

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Speaker 1: and he released The Gambler, got a Grammy for that,

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Speaker 1: No Win the Fold No Win obviously one of his

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Speaker 1: By the way, this song was written by the Begs

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Speaker 1: the tour because of a series of health challenges. He said,

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Speaker 1: I've thoroughly enjoyed this opportunity to say farewell to the

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Speaker 1: the Gambler's Last Deal Tour. I could never properly thank

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Speaker 1: them for the encouragement and support they've given me throughout

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Speaker 1: Lionel Ritchie wrote, today I lost one of my closest friends.

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Speaker 1: So much laughter, so many adventures to remember. My heart

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Speaker 1: is broken. He wrote this break Anny Lady, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, we play a lot of Kenny's other songs.

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Speaker 1: He has a ton of number one we'll be here

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Speaker 1: all day on this wall. Dolly Parton remembered our partner quote,

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Speaker 1: you never know how much you love somebody until they're gone.

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Speaker 1: I've had so many wonderful years and wonderful times with

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Speaker 1: my friend Kenny. But about all the music and success,

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Speaker 1: I loved him as a wonderful man and a true friend.

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Speaker 1: asked me of the day, am I going to write

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Speaker 1: every time I try to write a new we of

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Speaker 1: the World, I keep writing the same lyrics that I

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Speaker 1: wrote for We Are the World. The message is the same.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we are challenged, but we are our brother's

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Speaker 1: keeper right now, and we have to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we are taking care of each other because that's what

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Speaker 1: God planned and not to be, you know, a tribe

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Speaker 1: and a tribe and a tribe. But we keep being

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Speaker 1: forced to do something together. And right now, this is

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Speaker 1: that time in life to hear those words again. And

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Speaker 1: I must admit that that song resonates today like it did,

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Speaker 1: you know with thirty some five years ago, thirty five

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Speaker 1: years ago. Well, I know that you and Kenny were

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Speaker 1: dear friends, and I appreciate your sharing the stories about them,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you being oh friendly and so kind

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Speaker 1: to me like I love you too. You just have

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Speaker 1: been You just have been the best to me. You

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Speaker 1: haven't you didn't need to be, but you just have

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Speaker 1: been the best to me. Well, you know what I

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Speaker 1: have to tell you something. I've been trained by some

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Speaker 1: very famous people. And when I say that, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I met Kenny Rogers, you couldn't get any bigger

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Speaker 1: than Kenny Rogers. You know that was the gambler I

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Speaker 1: walked in on, and I must tell you, in less

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Speaker 1: than fifteen seconds, he made me feel like we grew

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Speaker 1: up together back in Houston, Texas. You'd follow him on saying,

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Speaker 1: and I learned a big trick, and that is, if

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Speaker 1: you're famous, if you're really famous, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: scare anybody to death. You just have to be as

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Speaker 1: nice as you possibly can, because that's they're already uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: when they first meet you. And I must admit, you

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Speaker 1: were so quiet when I first met you. I figured

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Speaker 1: I gotta cheer you up around you didn't that much

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Speaker 1: noise at all. But you know, I kind of thought,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe he doesn't want to talk to me. But

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Speaker 1: but you are the sweetest guy. And I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: now that we were with the show together, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is just a too much fun and we were

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Speaker 1: meant to be together. But don't worry. I think we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of more life to go. Bobby, I

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Speaker 1: think so too. And and you know I love you.

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Speaker 1: You're you're so good on American Idol, and you still

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Speaker 1: like doing the show. You still love doing the show.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you something? I am having, truthfully, the

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Speaker 1: best time ever in my life. I when I first started,

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Speaker 1: I kept thinking, Okay, now what am I doing? Because

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Speaker 1: I've got Luke at the other end of the table,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not quite sure what Luke's gonna say, And

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Speaker 1: and Luke scares me, but he's so funny, and we've

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Speaker 1: become the best of friends. I'm actually, you know, I

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Speaker 1: feel like Lucan and Lionel like Kenny and in line

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Speaker 1: on you know it's so crazy, and then of course Katie,

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Speaker 1: when Katie scares the two of us, you know we're

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Speaker 1: in trouble. But you know what I must say, I

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Speaker 1: think about your job. You have the tough job because

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Speaker 1: after we deal with them in front of us, we

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Speaker 1: hand them back to you and they're a nervous wreck.

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Speaker 1: They're nervous going in, nervous coming out. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: could do your job. Your job is you have to

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Speaker 1: put them together to face us and then pull them

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Speaker 1: back together. But we I must tell you, I'm enjoying

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Speaker 1: the show. It is a delight and the most part,

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Speaker 1: I think that the world needs a little compassion when

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Speaker 1: they see us on that show. Those kids are very

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Speaker 1: brave and uh and I just love kind of being

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Speaker 1: the mentor for them. I'm gonna play us out here.

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Speaker 1: What's your one line? You have one song? The crowd

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Speaker 1: you it's a it's a stadium. They say you only

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Speaker 1: get to play one song line? What are you gonna play? Um?

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Speaker 1: If I had to play one song, it would be

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Speaker 1: my my theme song, which is easy, like Sunday Morning

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Speaker 1: I just I think that's just the way I feel. Man, listen,

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Speaker 1: I love you, I'll see you soon. Be safe, my friend.

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Speaker 1: All right, my friend, And tell everyone all the listeners

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Speaker 1: out there hanging there. This is going to be a

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Speaker 1: rough ride, but but God will get us through this.

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Speaker 1: All right, line, I'll see letter friend alright. Brother,