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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm sad

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Speaker 1: Ive Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. The Cubs

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Speaker 1: have lost three of four. They're playing really good teams

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Speaker 1: right now. That they just lost on Monday night to

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies, who were scuffling. They came into that

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Speaker 1: game losers of five in a row, I believe, and

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Speaker 1: nine of ten, a really good team that is struggling

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Speaker 1: my lead defeated the Cubs by a run in extra innings.

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Speaker 1: The Cubs right now, it's really I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: want to point to a culprit, it's the offense. The

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Speaker 1: offense isn't delivering regularly. It was bound to happen where

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Speaker 1: they just couldn't put up six runs per game every

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Speaker 1: single time out. It wasn't it wasn't realistic to keep

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Speaker 1: up that pace. Even their win on Saturday, I don't

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Speaker 1: think they had a runner in scoring position. They hit

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Speaker 1: a bunch of home runs, but not a single runner

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Speaker 1: in scoring position. Friday, Sunday and Monday, I believe it

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Speaker 1: was one for eight each night with runners in scoring

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Speaker 1: position and and Sunday and Monday. Just not a lot

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Speaker 1: of hits, four and five hits. They're they're just not

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Speaker 1: doing a lot on offense right now. But they're facing

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Speaker 1: pictures like Jack Flaherty, Derek Scouogble, Zach Wheeler. These are

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Speaker 1: not These are not like okay pitchers, especially Schooble and Wheeler.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about you're in year out now, cy young candidates.

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Speaker 2: Well you're in Philly. I'm curious what kind of the

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Speaker 2: mood was walking in after losing a series to the

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Speaker 2: American League's best team and then to have an extra

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Speaker 2: inning loss that really was kind of a coin flip.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they played bad or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: It was certainly a winnable game. What is the we

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Speaker 2: knew they weren't gonna liken't necessarily win one hundred plus

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Speaker 2: games or just keep playing at this ferocious pace, Like,

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Speaker 2: are we starting to see them maybe come back towards

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Speaker 2: their normal level or this kind of the inevitle thing

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Speaker 2: that happens to every team every season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the latter. At you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe we're seeing the start of something bad and what

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Speaker 1: you we have no clue We don't know that, right

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Speaker 1: You and I just don't know that it happened last

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Speaker 1: year where it just they went in the tailspin. They

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Speaker 1: seemed like a good team. I think there's enough evidence

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Speaker 1: right now and enough talent for us to feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good that, hey, this team's not going to completely collapse.

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Speaker 1: Certainly not. I'd be surprised, barring injury, that this offense

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Speaker 1: would completely collapse. I know you got to hit good

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Speaker 1: pitching to win in the playoffs, but I just I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't panic too much just yet. And there's obviously no

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Speaker 1: no panic in that clubhouse. I nobody seemed that uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, overwrought by what happened. Uh, you know they

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Speaker 1: these these are tough losses, they're competitive games. They're playing

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Speaker 1: good teams. Uh. Look, the Phillies aren't playing well right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think their offense is really struggling. But when

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Speaker 1: you have Zach Wheeler on the mound, you have a

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Speaker 1: chance to win. And they they bunted the Cubs to

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Speaker 1: death and the eleventh inning, Uh, there there wasn't there,

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Speaker 1: There's nothing. There was no glaring issue that stood out

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Speaker 1: to me, and and and the team kind of knows.

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Speaker 1: Greig council knows that this is It's a long season.

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Speaker 1: There are ups and downs. You have to I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing is they took care of business in May, yes,

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Speaker 1: which kind of allows for something like this. You don't

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Speaker 1: want it. You want to just keep winning series and

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Speaker 1: you want them to build their their division, lead to

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Speaker 1: double digits and and cruise into the play That's what

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Speaker 1: everyone prefers. But the reality of one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: two game season is there are moments like this. The

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Cubs went five and fifteen. I believe before

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Speaker 1: the the All Star breaks something like that. There's just

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Speaker 1: there are moments like this in every season, good or bad.

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Speaker 1: You want you want to minimize the damage. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's how they're kind of looking at it. Not

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Speaker 1: that they're expecting bad things, but if bad moments come,

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Speaker 1: they have the right people in the clubhouse to kind

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Speaker 1: And they beyond that, which they probably had the right

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Speaker 1: people in the clubhouse last year, they also have the

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Speaker 2: I feel like you were saying this last year, and

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Speaker 2: it was a point while taken of, all you really

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Speaker 2: need is just one super hot stretch and then if

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Speaker 2: you're just sort of an average team for the other

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Speaker 2: five months, that can carry you into the playoffs. That's

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Speaker 2: not like the goal. You want to be as consistent

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Speaker 2: as possible in all phases of the game. You want

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Speaker 2: to put yourself in the best possible position for October.

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Speaker 2: You want to be healthy, you want to have everything

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Speaker 2: you know firing on all at the most important times

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Speaker 2: of the year. But yeah, there's just very few teams

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Speaker 2: have given themselves a margin for error. I think they're

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Speaker 2: going to be pushed though by this division. Like to

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Speaker 2: it just seems kind of either overperforming or figuring out

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Speaker 2: a different type of way to win. And thinking of

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Speaker 2: the Brewers in that scenarios, never kind of count them out,

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Speaker 2: the Reds going on a nice little winning streak here

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Speaker 2: going away even though they seem to try really hard

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Speaker 2: to just disappear this past offseason. So it will be

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Speaker 2: interesting to see kind of how council handles this next

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Speaker 2: stage of the season to see which young players kind

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Speaker 2: of figure it out or keep learning and you know

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Speaker 2: who gets hot. I think that's been you know, a

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Speaker 2: big point of emphasis with this offense, where it didn't

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Speaker 2: have to be just one guy. Guys could go on

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Speaker 2: really you know, some really cold streaks, multiple guys can

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Speaker 2: and they were still able to keep winning series. And

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Speaker 2: we'll just have to see how they were spinning out

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Speaker 2: not hitting the panic button quite yet. But if they

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Speaker 2: get swept in Philly, we can start right those stories,

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Speaker 2: having those sorts of episodes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, baseball, baseball's all the time. There are

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Speaker 1: things that happen. They get some balls really hard the

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Speaker 1: past few days that things happened, and and you know,

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Speaker 1: right at people they they it's not like they're having

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Speaker 1: these awful at bats. You can look back at the

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Speaker 1: Dansby Swanson at bat and the eleventh inning and complain about that.

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Speaker 1: I look, I get fans. They are going to be

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Speaker 1: frustrated by that. There's a man on third less than

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Speaker 1: and maybe we're talking about a win instead of instead

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Speaker 1: of they're the Phillies aren't bunting in that situation as

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Speaker 1: much they're they're probably treating that inning very differently, and

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Speaker 1: the Cubs are probably treating it very differently if they

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Speaker 1: have a two run lead instead of a one run lead.

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Speaker 1: So we just don't know what happens, and it's absolutely

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Speaker 1: fair to be frustrated by that if you're a fan.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think there's any reason to be

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Speaker 1: the Scoobal outing is actually one of those where it's

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Speaker 1: like they made the right you know, they weren't embarrassed

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Speaker 1: by Scoobl. They they swung at the right pitches, they

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Speaker 1: back and bit them. Council kind of talked about it.

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Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, when you're aggressive on the basis there,

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Speaker 1: it won't always work. Sometimes there are going to be

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Speaker 1: mistakes made, There are going to be times where the

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Speaker 1: guy's out. That's it. You're taking a risk. That's just

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Speaker 1: like aggression leads to risks and that, and and sometimes

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Speaker 1: they don't. They don't pay off. So you can't always

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Speaker 1: assume that these things lead to victory. You can hope that,

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Speaker 1: you know, more times than not it has for this

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Speaker 1: we'll see if this leads to kind of a stretch

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Speaker 1: here where things aren't going well. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: fans will panic. I understand it's inevitable to feel like

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Speaker 1: Patrick. The Cubs have been getting some pretty great start

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Speaker 1: pitch starting pitching, despite the fact that Justin steels out

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Speaker 1: for the season, showed him anaga. Uh pitched last night

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Speaker 1: we'll get a report from Craig Counsel on how he feels.

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Speaker 1: I think that's all that matters. Those numbers are kind

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Speaker 1: far off barring any setbacks. That that's great news. They

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Speaker 1: need showed him ANAGA back. We know we've talked about this.

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Speaker 1: They need to add at the deadline. Uh. But I

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Speaker 1: mean Matthew Boyd has been everything that could have hoped

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Speaker 1: he didn't strike out a guy yesterday. But he pitched

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Speaker 1: six innings. He gave He basically relied on his defense

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Speaker 1: a lot. They were very aggressive the Phillies. There were

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Speaker 1: a lot of like two three pitch at bats. I

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Speaker 1: think the only long at bats were the two walks

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Speaker 1: he issued to Kyle Schwarber, who worked who worked long

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Speaker 1: at bats like Kyle Schwarber does. Uh. And he's right now,

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Speaker 1: what happened to that guy? Yeah, right now, he's the

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Speaker 1: and he kind of tried to force other guys to

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Speaker 1: Two runs, one unearned because of an Aaron pickoff throw

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Speaker 1: He looks like an All star. This guy has been

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Speaker 2: Exactly. And you me, our colleague John Greenberg at The

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Speaker 2: Athletic have all kind of written about this in the

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Speaker 1: Patrick matt Shaw was supposed to be a work in progress. Defensively.

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Speaker 1: Now they're showing it to us. That's that's all you want.

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Speaker 1: That's what fans clamor for clamor they don't care about

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Speaker 1: hearing about the changes and all the work that you know,

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking the same thing. There are lots

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Speaker 2: of hands in any player's development, and Shaw and some

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Speaker 2: of these other homegrown players, they have bridge different sort

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Speaker 2: of regimes or groups whatever however you want to kind

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Speaker 2: got up to the majors really quick and have that nice,

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Speaker 2: like we'll match'll be an all star like who knows,

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Speaker 2: but certainly like he's already a plus player, plus contributor

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Speaker 2: to him, he's, as you know, Sahadev, very mature, low key,

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Speaker 2: kind of blends in. You know, I think that his

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Speaker 2: first introduction to the show, the game itself like definitely

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Speaker 2: Hoyd described as kind of being in defensive mode there

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Speaker 2: I think you can can build around here and just

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Speaker 2: kind of just a nice piece to have, you know,

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Speaker 2: so long as all the other pieces kind of work

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Patrick will see how they do the rest of

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Speaker 1: this series. You know, still some good pitching that they're

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Speaker 1: highly thought of prospect. You'd like to see this offense

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Speaker 1: kind of kind of work a young player and see

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Speaker 1: what they could do against him. Lozardo on Wednesday. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know Lozardo has had a great season, but his

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Speaker 1: last two starts have been rough. That you hope that

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Speaker 1: the Cubs can continue that trend. That's what the Cubs

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Speaker 1: are hoping, that's what the fans are hoping. We'll see

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Speaker 1: where they are after three in Philly. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: at it on Thursday, and then they have four against

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Speaker 1: the Pirates, and look, the Pirates are an easy team

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Speaker 1: in theory, but one of those games is Paul Schemes.

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Speaker 1: So you just don't know, you don't know what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see, You don't know how this weekend's gonna go

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Speaker 1: but we'll deal with that when when it comes. Right now,

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Speaker 1: it's two more with the Phillies. We'll be back at

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Speaker 1: it later this week. Thanks so much for listening to everyone.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Take

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Speaker 4: Yeah