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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike. Today, I am talking to

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Speaker 1: the filmmakers behind Not Just the Goof, which is the

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Speaker 1: documentary about a goofy movie. Just as Documentary Alone took

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Speaker 1: five years to make. It was all done independently then

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Speaker 1: went on Disney Plus, so we'll get the full story

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Speaker 1: behind that. In the movie review, I'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: the new Final Destination movie Bloodlins and in the Trailer Park,

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Speaker 1: be talking about The Long Walk, which is based on

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Speaker 1: the first ever novel that Stephen King wrote, and no

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Speaker 1: it is not Carrie. Thank you for being here, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being subscribed. Shout out to the Monday Morning

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Speaker 1: movie crew. He Now, let's talk movies podcast network this

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Speaker 1: Movie Mike movie podcast about it get into my conversation

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Speaker 1: with the filmmakers behind Not Just the Goof. It is

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Speaker 1: a documentary about a goofy movie. We're gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: to directors Chris and Eric and producer Scott how this

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Speaker 1: movie took five five years to make. They did it

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Speaker 1: really without the blessing of Disney, and once they had

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Speaker 1: put this on Disney Plus. If you're a longtime listener

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Speaker 1: of this podcast, you know how much I love a

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Speaker 1: Goofy movie, And a few weeks ago I did an

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Speaker 1: episode after I watched this documentary how much I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: They heard that episode, hit me up, and here we are.

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Speaker 1: So if you two are a big fan of a

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Speaker 1: to have watched it in order to enjoy this interview,

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Speaker 1: because this is something I just wanted to dive into

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Speaker 1: to showcase some people who took a big risk and

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Speaker 1: have a lot of cool opportunities because of it. So

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Speaker 1: Not Just a goof Guys, I'm so excited to get

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Speaker 1: to talk to you, not only because I love talking

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Speaker 1: So thank you guys for joining me. First of all,

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Speaker 1: glad to be here. Thanks for having us on on.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into talking about a Goofy movie. Where were

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Speaker 3: I definitely saw it at home on VHS. My mom

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Speaker 2: It just like hit me so.

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Speaker 3: Hard and I just desperately wanted to be as cool

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Speaker 4: For those who have not seen the documentary or know

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Speaker 1: And I was in.

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Speaker 4: It was like a real kind of movie premiere and

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Speaker 4: That night changed my life because that's when I knew

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Speaker 5: Actually, I came to a Goofy movie much later. I

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Speaker 5: And Chris had the idea for the film, Chris and I,

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Speaker 5: And I said, I think, you know, I've heard of it,

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Speaker 1: So I think that partially is why I'm so inspired

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Speaker 3: Well, so Disney Plus had just launched, right, and they

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Speaker 1: So once you're you have the idea, you had that

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Speaker 4: We received zero creative notes from Disney, Like we had

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Speaker 1: Since I've been doing this podcast since like six years ago,

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Speaker 1: like how I saw our relationship is we had a

437
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: great relationship as when I was a kid. It was

438
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: more so the growing apart later in life that I

439
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's exactly how it was with Max

440
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: and Goofy, and that's kind of how I related with it.

441
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: So I think it's interesting to see it from all

442
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: these different perspectives and to see everybody kind of come

443
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: together and feel like, oh, this is a part of

444
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: all of our childhood in some way. Absolutely, Scott, was

445
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: there ever a moment as a producer that you thought,

446
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if this thing is good to see

447
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: the light of day?

448
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 5: Oh I cash, I mean, yeah, two weeks before the

449
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 5: film came out. Yeah, it's a small miracle this this

450
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 5: movie got out. I mean, if you think about classic

451
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 5: Disney character IP that is owned by another company, all

452
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: this behind the scenes footage that Disney would you know,

453
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 5: love to have the rights issues, you know, agreements, appearances

454
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 5: for people appearing in the film. I can think of

455
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 5: a dozen times where we all looked at each other,

456
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 5: you know how, that sort of feeling that pit in

457
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 5: our stumf of not knowing how we were going to

458
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 5: get this out into the world. You know, I think

459
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 5: that we all really believed deeply in the mission of

460
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 5: the film and the story. You know, early on, we

461
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 5: knew that we could tell a really great informational documentary

462
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 5: about you know, the history and the creativity of a

463
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 5: Goofy movie. But it was that personal connection and personal

464
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 5: story and the themes about fatherhood that we really were

465
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 5: really driving you know, the film forward when when we

466
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 5: had those hard days and so, you know, we always

467
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 5: wanted to get it on Disney Plus.

468
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: That was always the goal, you know.

469
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 5: But there were also you know times, long stretches of

470
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 5: time where we were thinking about home, the festival route,

471
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 5: thinking about putting it on YouTube, case starter. You know,

472
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 5: we had several conversations about all those things, all while

473
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 5: still trying to get it on Disney Plus. So, like

474
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 5: you when I have my producer hat on, you're trying

475
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 5: to be the potential you know, potholes in the road

476
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: ahead and the issues that might arise with any given

477
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 5: that Chris and Eric wanted to take the film. Even

478
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 5: in the kind of like months and weeks leading up

479
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 5: to the film, we were still having conversations about how

480
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 5: to get it out there in the world.

481
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: Did you guys start to feel like a parallel between

482
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: the making of this documentary and the making of a

483
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: Goofy movie.

484
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: We found out, by the way, I don't think we've

485
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: said this yet, but like the space where they edited

486
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 3: a Goofy movie right where in they weren't on the lot.

487
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: They didn't do that on the backlot.

488
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: It was being animated in like Paris, Toronto, Australia, but

489
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 3: it was being assembled in Burbank on this like North

490
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: Hollywood Burbank area. And we found out like six months

491
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: before the movie came out on Disney Plus that where

492
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: we edited our documentary was a block away from where

493
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: they made a Goofy movie. And we had no idea

494
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: that we were doing it almost in the same spot.

495
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 3: Down to working with an animation studio in another country,

496
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: having conversations like through through video on what it should

497
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: look like and how it should should operate.

498
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: I mean, there were so many similarities obvious.

499
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 4: We're kind of a rag tag team.

500
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all new to our first feature.

501
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 5: So many parallels. They're just very mind going to think

502
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 5: about it. I think some when we started to see

503
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 5: something happening, it felt very historic, It felt very rare

504
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 5: to be a part of.

505
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: Seems like you guys are all so passionate about this,

506
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: and when it comes to chasing your passions, it's something

507
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: that you would do even if you were getting paid.

508
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: You guys don't have to give me a number, but

509
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 1: you guys get paid for getting this thing on Disney Plus.

510
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 4: I don't know if we can legally say hey, like

511
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: how much or anything like legit legally we can't, but yes,

512
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 4: we we got paid. I don't think any of us

513
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: are retiring.

514
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: Okay, So here here's why I asked. It's because I

515
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: want people to support you guys as filmmakers. Is it

516
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: as simple as just watching it on Disney Plus? Do

517
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: you buy merch?

518
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: Like?

519
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: How do you guys need support for this movie? And

520
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: also for you guys to do more things like this,

521
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: like how do people support you?

522
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: I think it's watching the film and sharing the film.

523
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 3: That's the number one thing that people can do if

524
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: it means something to you. If you watch the film

525
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: and you took something away from it and you want

526
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: to share that experience or even go on line and

527
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: write a kind review, that stuff goes along a long,

528
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: long way.

529
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: You know, we're definitely going to make more stuff together.

530
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: We're not done.

531
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: We're always We'll have irons in the fire and what

532
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: the next one is we're figuring that out right now.

533
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: But you know, the film will eventually be available to buy.

534
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: We're working on and hopeful that there will be a

535
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 3: Blu Ray release. Of some kind, but it will definitely

536
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: be available digitally. We're just now in the process of

537
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: getting it available to everyone because right now it's just

538
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: in the US, so we're working on the details of

539
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: getting it out internationally, but that is going to happen. Yeah,

540
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: watching the film and sharing it is the number one thing.

541
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: We did think about making shirts though, Mike, what do

542
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: you think I I was saying, we need to we

543
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 3: need to release the Jeffrey Dogs and burg shirt, Like

544
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: I think there needs to be a Jeffrey Dogs and

545
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: Burg t shirt.

546
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: I love it. I'll buy ten of those right now.

547
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 2: I can't think we might do that.

548
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: I don't know who did the animations.

549
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: It was a company in Columbia called Venturia Animation Studios,

550
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 4: and Chris just threw throw a net out on like

551
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 4: Facebook or something, asking if you know anybody knew any

552
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: animation companies. And Chris is in the entertainment industry like

553
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: for a day job, and got a referral and we

554
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 4: got hooked up with them, and I'm glad we did

555
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 4: because it was actually their idea to create like create

556
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: all the the retail everything, but in the goofy style,

557
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 4: like the Goofy Verse. If you will, so making everybody dogs.

558
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: When we saw the first sketches of that, we're like, absolutely, yes,

559
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: this is totally belongs in our film and really adds

560
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: something a little bit different. It's definitely unique.

561
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. The parallel just keep coming. You guys

562
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: had to get animation. It's like a whole thing.

563
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

564
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: My final question for you guys, you kind of tease

565
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: that you're working on something else. You'll have something else

566
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: out soon that you're gonna put out into the world.

567
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: If you could make a documentary about another unsung movie,

568
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: what would it be.

569
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's almost a trick question, because I want to

570
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: tell you I feel like we could. Well, here's the thing.

571
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: There are conversations about a couple films. The important thing though,

572
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: to remember is it has to be something we feel

573
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: deeply about and we feel passionate about. We don't want

574
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: to do the same kind of thing necessarily, and but

575
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: but there are movies we love with great, great stories

576
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: that we've considered. This feels like an exclusive. I feel

577
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: like I can say, you know, we were talking about

578
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: a Hook documentary because we love the movie Hook. We

579
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: actually have shot an interview for that. We were talking also,

580
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: you know, it's a bit more complicated.

581
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible.

582
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: But the Emperor's New Groove has this incredible story that

583
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: could that could be something potentially, But but again it

584
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: all has to come together organically and completely.

585
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: You know, we just we love a Goofy movie. We

586
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: have such passion for it.

587
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: If we don't have the same passion for another film

588
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: like that, I think the film would be inauthentic and

589
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: it would be hard hard to pursue, especially since it

590
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: took five years. You know, It's like if it was

591
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: about any we'd probably get you know, we'd be like

592
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: too beaten down by it and be like, no, we can't,

593
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: this is impossible.

594
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned needing that passion. Did you ever get sick

595
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: of a Goofy movie? Did you ever think, like, man,

596
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: maybe I am just a goof.

597
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I think we're gonna take at least a

598
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: few months off from watching a Goofy movie or or

599
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 4: our film.

600
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: I actually haven't even watched our doc on Disney Plus

601
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: all the way through yet, because I'm I've seen it so,

602
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: I mean thousands of times now. So also the song

603
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: eye to Eye, which is a total like banger. I

604
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: love Eye to eye. But I can go like a

605
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: few weeks now without singing or hearing eye to eye,

606
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 3: and I'll I'll be OK.

607
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, after watching it so many times, how did

608
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: you know that it was still good? Because you were like,

609
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: I've been in this for so long, We've been working

610
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: on it for five years. Is this still good?

611
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 5: Whenever I watch Chris mentioning the taste of finding Tevin

612
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 5: Campbell in a booth, I still I've seen a hundred

613
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: times in our documentary at least, I still get chills.

614
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: There's just something so pure.

615
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 5: I think about seeing Kevin and the creative team pour

616
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 5: their whole heart and soul into something deeply meaningful to them.

617
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: And as a creative going through this process, you really

618
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 5: resonate with the tension and the struggle and fashion and

619
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 5: enthusiasm for wanting to make something that like people are

620
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: going to love and then you put it out in

621
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: the world. And so there's still part yeah the documentary

622
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: that I've seen a hundred times that I still get

623
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: chills at. And that's a very motivating factor when you're

624
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: having those hard days of wanting to get it done.

625
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: I think it was a lot easier. I mean, we

626
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 4: were making this for five years, so we'd seen it

627
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: a million times before we like really showed it to

628
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: anyone besides ourselves and like Kevin. But there was a

629
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: screening we did with Bill Farmer and Chris and I

630
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: were so nervous for that because we're like, well, if

631
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: he hates it, this thing is over.

632
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: And it was at Don Juan's studio, Yeah, which is

633
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: like almost it just ups the antia nerves, you know,

634
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: because you're in like the sanctuary of the man who

635
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: made Lion King and Beating the Beast and the voice

636
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: of Goofy is there and he's watching your movie.

637
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 4: To watch Bill watch our movie and then to see

638
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: him like smiling or laughing and things like that, and

639
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: then to talk to him and his wife afterward, and

640
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: they're like it was so true to like how it

641
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: was back then. We you know, we really enjoyed it.

642
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: And to know that they were like willing to champion it.

643
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: That was a big sigh of relief. I think really

644
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: boosted our confidence to like try to you know, throw

645
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: the net out a little bit farther. Because both Don

646
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: and Bill are legitimate Disney legends. They have like have

647
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: the title.

648
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Is it ever hard to talk to Bill because his

649
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: normal voice sounds so much like goofy.

650
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: And he'll he'll dip into the goofy voice, and I

651
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: think it was to mess with us on purpose. You'll

652
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: ask him a question in an interview and then he'll

653
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: just be like gorgeous like and you'll just see Eric

654
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: and I like smiling like like with our big dumb

655
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: grind like a dog. Yeah, You're like, wow, that's goofy.

656
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: And then and he's kind of smiling because I think

657
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Speaker 3: he knows what he's doing. But no, he he does

658
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: just kind of sound like that, but he's He and

659
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: his wife, his whole family are the nicest, most supportive

660
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: people every step of the way since they got involved.

661
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: It was what do you need? How can we help?

662
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: What can we do? And that makes the whole thing.

663
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: I mean, that was really everyone, everyone in our film,

664
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Speaker 3: every single person we interview. That was everyone's response. It

665
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: was really remarkable. They just they all did it for

666
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: basically nothing, and just because they knew it was important

667
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: to the fandom and they were helping us, which is crazy,

668
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: like that doesn't happen in these types of situations.

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Speaker 1: So well, Chris, Eric Scott, this has been great to

670
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: get to talk to you, guys. I love the fact

671
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: that you, guys, bad on yourself. You saw your dreams

672
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: come true. Everybody, go watch it on Disney Plus. If

673
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it yet, maybe by some merch soon,

674
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: maybe a Blu Ray soon. So yeah, well, appreciate the

675
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: time so much, guys.

676
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Speaker 4: All right, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Back, thank you all. Let's get into it now. A

678
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: spoiler free movie review of Final Destination blood Lines, taking

679
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: us back to the franchise that has traumatized us all.

680
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: The reason I never got into a tanning bed, aside

681
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: from the fact that I'm Mexican and have a perfectly

682
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: brown complexion debatable, but also the reason why anytime on

683
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: a highway I cannot drive behind any eighteen wheeler hauling

684
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: things that are only held down by chains. We all

685
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: remember the infamous scene from Final Destination too, where all

686
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: the logs come crashing down and killing a whole bunch

687
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: of people on the highway. It's also the reason that

688
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: some people have a fear of flying roller coasters or

689
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: even gymnastics, and this was said to be one of

690
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: the best movies in the franchise. Taking us back to

691
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: the very beginning. So what this movie is about. You

692
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: have a college student who is having these freaky visions.

693
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: He is picturing these people on top of this restaurant,

694
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: it's very fancy, at the top of like a huge

695
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: skyscraper building. And she is plagued by this memory and

696
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: trying to figure out its source, and then starts asking

697
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: questions to her family, and then she discovers well a dark,

698
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: hidden family secret, and in order to break down the

699
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: cycle of death that is after her entire family, she

700
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: has to go seeking answers to find the only person

701
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: who can help her break this curse. So, by no

702
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: means is this movie breaking away from the formula of

703
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: a final destination movie. It really ramps up the violence

704
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: because in that opening scene, it just kind of reminds

705
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: you how they have no regard for humanity. Death doesn't

706
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: care who you are, And I think that is what

707
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the most about Bloodlines is it doesn't matter

708
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: if you're old, if you're young, if you're white, if

709
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: you're black. It doesn't matter. Death is going to take

710
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: you out because it has no regard for the human life.

711
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: And I think that is what was so shocking about

712
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: the opening scene. Where you just see people getting obliterated.

713
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: Now overall in Bloodlines, I think they ran out of creativity.

714
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: It is hard. This is the sixth movie in the franchise.

715
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: I think all the great deaths have been done. So

716
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: I go to these movies because in its history it

717
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: has had me change the way I approach things, Like

718
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I was mentioning earlier. It has these moments where we

719
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: start to associate the movies with the reasons we don't

720
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: do certain things like put our hand down a garbage

721
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: disposal is because how these movies have traumatized us. But

722
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I think they have covered them all because there weren't

723
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: any of those moments really in this movie. There was

724
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: one really tense scene where they start foreshadowing all the

725
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: things that could take you out, and a lot of

726
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: it is focused on things inside your house, and that

727
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: just freaks me out because I think, Man, if I

728
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: just don't leave my house, I'll be good and sheltered

729
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: and comforted right here. But this even tells you, like, man,

730
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: there's so many ways you can die in a house,

731
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: so many ways you could die in a hospital. So

732
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: it does freak you out in those ways, but by

733
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: no means does it have another tanning bed scene, does

734
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: it have another log scene. They even have a lot

735
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: of references to things they've done in the past. So

736
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of an ode to the franchise as a whole,

737
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: more so than Okay, here is a breath of fresh

738
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: air and all these new ideas. But that doesn't mean

739
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: it's not enjoyable because if you go into this movie

740
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: knowing exactly what it is, I think you're gonna have

741
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: a pretty good time. It is the fast and furious

742
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: of horror, where you're not going into these movies expecting

743
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: great acting. And that is hard for me because the

744
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: acting level in this movie is that of a really

745
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: good college student film, where if my friend in college

746
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: made this movie, I would think, Man, you're gonna go

747
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: on to be huge. You're gonna be the best director

748
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: in Hollywood because that level of acting is there. But

749
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: for the acting standard I come to expect in a

750
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: horror movie, it's really not there. But I have to

751
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: remember that you can't go to these movies expecting things

752
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: to be really based in reality, expecting people to act

753
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: in the way that you and I would. You have

754
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: to expect almost a live action cartoon that is really

755
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: dark and twisted because the acting is not there, the

756
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: story is really not there. I hate the trope in

757
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: horror movies of somebody younger stumbling upon a family secret

758
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: and then having to drive out somewhere to find answers

759
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: and talk to somebody who has a vast history of

760
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: all this knowledge and the true secret behind the story

761
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: has been hiding all these family secrets. I hate that

762
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: trope because it's so annoying and so redundant, and so

763
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: focused on just telling you the story as opposed to

764
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: showing you overall the story. In Final Destination, Bloodlines just

765
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 1: didn't connect for me. I don't think it was really

766
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: supposed to. But I think if that would have been there,

767
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: this movie could have had a chance to go good,

768
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: dumb fun to something great, and I think that would

769
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: have caught a lot of people by surprise. But I

770
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: don't think that's really what they were going for, because

771
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: this movie really falls off in the third act. Well,

772
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: you even't even care about these characters anymore, and it

773
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: becomes so focused on just kind of finishing out the

774
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: story and doing the same things it has done in

775
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: the past, maybe a little bit better directing and overall performances,

776
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: it would have been there a lot of times. It

777
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: was just frustrating and unbelievable. Which I get it. These

778
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: movies are supposed to be ridiculous, bloody and be a

779
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: total turn off your brain and just enjoy it for

780
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: what it is is. But I just saw some wasted

781
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: potential there and all that aside. Say you're just going

782
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: into this for brutal kills. The overall effects on them

783
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: are over the top, but in a way that looks

784
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: a little bit cheap. If you go back to two

785
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: thousand when this movie debuted, they had a little bit

786
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: more style to them. So I just feel that why

787
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: are we still in this position where our special effects

788
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: are getting such a downgrade. But overall, the best performance

789
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: in this movie goes to seventy one year old stunt

790
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: performer ya Vet Ferguson, who broke the record for the

791
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: oldest person to be on fire in a movie. So

792
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: you have this big fiery disaster happening on top of

793
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: this four hundred foot tower and you see Yavett Ferguson,

794
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: who came at of retirement to do this scene being

795
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: lit on fire. I'm talking full body burn in a

796
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: silver dress that was the best moment of that opening scene.

797
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: There were those moments that even forced me to look

798
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: away because anytime somebody has something impaled, I don't care

799
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: who you are, it's just hard to take in. So

800
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: I will give this movie points for making me feel

801
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: squeamish because there were times that I was like, ah,

802
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to see this person go through this,

803
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: and also give it points because after I left the theater,

804
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I was so paranoid. I didn't really think the movie

805
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: affected me that much. But walking down the hall of

806
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: the movie theater and in the regal I go to,

807
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: you have to go up and down a really big escalator,

808
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: and now I was getting on that thing, like all right,

809
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: anybody behind me, is there any chance this thing is

810
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: gonna suck me in? Because that was always the myth

811
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: growing up that don't play on the escalator because it'll

812
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: eat you up and you'll get pushed under that thing.

813
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: And if you watch this movie, you know, oh man,

814
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: the body can be contorted in really weird ways. And

815
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: that was the last thing I wanted to happen to

816
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: me after leaving this movie, even driving home, I was like, okay,

817
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: no cars come in. The light is Green, I'm going

818
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: to go. It made me paranoid, so it will affect

819
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: the way you think for a little bit. It will

820
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: make you not want to leave the house, but then

821
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: you'll be in the house thinking, man, there's so many

822
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: things in here that can take me out. Where is

823
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: the rank among the franchise I really dipped out of

824
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: these movies about Final Destination four. I think three was

825
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: the last really great one. Overall, Three had the best kills.

826
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: Final Destination two had the most memorable kills, with the

827
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: log scene a rare case for me where the first

828
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: one isn't the best one, but four and five were

829
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: pretty unmemorable, So I think Bloodlines is probably right above

830
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: those two. I've seen better special effects in movies that

831
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: cost less than this. I feel like a lot of

832
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: it was spent in that opening scene, which really takes

833
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: you by surprise, but never really gets back to that

834
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: level of excitement. But overall, if you don't take it

835
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: too seriously, you don't expect really great acting, and you

836
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: just want to see a bunch of people die in

837
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: really ridiculous ways. And you've been a fan of the

838
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: franchise since the year two thousand, I think you're gonna

839
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: have a good time for me. Final Destination just hasn't

840
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: been my go to in the horror genre. It was

841
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise to even know that there was one

842
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: on the docket to come out this year. I had

843
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: a pretty decent time, and I gave it a bonus

844
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: half point for making me feel paranoid, because any movie

845
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: that evokes an emotion in me that changes my real life,

846
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: I gotta give credit to you. So for Final Destination

847
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: blood Lines, I give it three point five out of

848
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: five shards of glass. It's time to head down to

849
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: movie Mike. Trailer Paul. I love it when you guys

850
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: send me trailers of movies you think I need to

851
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: talk about in the trailer Park, and this trailer, by

852
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: far is the one I've been sent the most out

853
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: of any trailer ever. It is a movie called The

854
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: Long Walk, and I have to say this could quite

855
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: possibly be the most perfect trailer because it does everything

856
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: a good trailer should do. It evokes emotion in you.

857
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: It shows you one thing and then immediately gears you

858
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: towards an entirely different feeling, and ultimately it makes you

859
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: want to see the movie by giving you just enough,

860
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: not giving you the entire story, but giving you enough

861
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: to make you motivated to send it to people like, Oh,

862
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: you got to check out this trailer because this movie

863
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: looks awesome. And what this movie is about about a

864
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: group of teenage boys who compete in an annual contest

865
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: known as the Long Walk. And I love how the

866
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: trailer starts out cheery, starts out inspirational, almost talking to

867
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: all these boys going around saying this is a really

868
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: special event. But then you find out that they have

869
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: to maintain a certain speed or they get shot. And

870
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: immediately this trailer takes a turn and it gets dark,

871
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Speaker 1: and it gets brutal because you realize that only one

872
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Speaker 1: of these boys is going to survive to win the

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Speaker 1: ultimate prize, which is essentially anything you want a bunch

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Speaker 1: of money. This movie is based on the work of

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Speaker 1: Stephen King. Of course it is, of course it is.

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Speaker 1: It is from director Francis Lawrence, who also did movies

877
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Speaker 1: like Hunger Games, Catching Fire, Hunger Games, Mocking j Parts

878
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: one and two. He also did The Ballad of Songbirds

879
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: and Snakes. It is coming out on September twelfth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Before I get into more, here is just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the Long Walk trailer.

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Speaker 6: In the very first Long Walk years ago to inspire

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Speaker 6: everyday people. It takes heavy sack to sign up for

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Speaker 6: this contest. I'm not gonna go through the whole rule book,

885
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 6: but it boils down to this.

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Speaker 2: If you fall below the speed of three.

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Speaker 6: Miles per hour, you get your ticket. Walk until there's

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Speaker 6: only one of you left.

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Speaker 1: My first question is are they running out of Stephen

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Speaker 1: King books to turn into movies, because The Long Walk

891
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: is actually the first novel that he ever wrote. Now,

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Speaker 1: Carrie was the first Stephen King novel to ever be published,

893
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: but before that, he wrote a Long Walk. Carrie is

894
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Speaker 1: also a fantastic movie. There are so many great Stephen

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00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: King books that were turned into movies that are just

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Speaker 1: the best. There have been eighty eight Stephen King stories

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Speaker 1: turned into movies. That is a lot because he's written

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Speaker 1: seventy seven books but has written over two hundred short stories.

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Speaker 1: So in combination between his novels and his short stories,

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Speaker 1: we got eighty eight movies to pick from. Stephen King

901
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: is worth an estimated five hundred million dollars. I think

902
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that should be higher. He has given us so many

903
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: fantastic stories and this was one I was not that

904
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Speaker 1: familiar with. So it's all about this big prize that

905
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Speaker 1: these boys can get. In the book, it is described

906
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Speaker 1: as they can win anything they want for the rest

907
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Speaker 1: of their life. The winner has the opportunity to fulfill

908
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: any desire, any dream that they want. They also get

909
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: a substantial amount of money, although I think in the

910
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Speaker 1: book it's not exactly specified how much money they can get.

911
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: But the walk is designed to be a brutal test

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Speaker 1: of endurance because only one person is expected to survive,

913
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Speaker 1: so that's the appealing thing, much like it is in

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Speaker 1: The Hunger Games, which we have a connection here with

915
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: the director of Catching Fire Monk and j Part one

916
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: in Part two being a part of this movie. There's

917
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Speaker 1: only one survivor in the Hunger Games, and they win

918
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Speaker 1: similar things. They win food and supplies for their district themselves,

919
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Speaker 1: they get a life of luxury. They are put into

920
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: a very specific community where only winners can live, so

921
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Speaker 1: they get like a mansion, they get that celebrity status.

922
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Speaker 1: They also mentor future tributes and coach them on how

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Speaker 1: to win. So we have some parallels here, and the

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Speaker 1: entire time I'm watching this trailer, I'm already trying to

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Speaker 1: pick who is gonna win. And I put myself in

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Speaker 1: this situation. How long could I last? Walking at least

927
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Speaker 1: three miles per hour? Now, if you are not familiar

928
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Speaker 1: with my story about ten years ago, that is how

929
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Speaker 1: I started my health journey. I was pushing three hundred

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Speaker 1: pounds and I decided I needed to make a change

931
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Speaker 1: of my life. So I just started walking. And up

932
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Speaker 1: to that point I really got no physical activity whatsoever,

933
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Speaker 1: So even that was a big deal for me. I

934
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Speaker 1: made little changes, like parking further away at the grocery

935
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Speaker 1: store so it would make me walk further into the store.

936
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Speaker 1: I walk all around the store, I get more steps in.

937
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Speaker 1: And that was just my goal. To walk ten minutes

938
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Speaker 1: a day. Fifteen minutes a day added up over time.

939
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: I started stacking that up. I sound like that guy

940
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Speaker 1: on TikTok who try to make this claim that he

941
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: has three days in one day. Oh I love that meme.

942
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, that is what I started doing. And then

943
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Speaker 1: eventually I started running, which if you just watch my

944
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Instagram stories now you think, oh man, this guy's been

945
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: running his entire life. He's always been good at running.

946
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Speaker 1: Not the case. Just ten years ago. When I started,

947
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: I could barely run a mile without stopping. But now

948
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Speaker 1: I'm at a point where I run about forty to

949
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: forty five miles a week, which is a lot. I've

950
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Speaker 1: run two marathons and that is tough, twenty six point

951
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: two miles. And what I've learned a lot of it

952
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: is mental. If you run a marathon, those last five miles,

953
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Speaker 1: you really get to know yourself, especially those last two

954
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Speaker 1: miles when it's so close you can taste it. It

955
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: is all mental. You have to push your body in

956
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Speaker 1: ways that you're telling yourself I can do it. I

957
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: can get there, even at times when your legs don't

958
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: want to kick, they don't want to move whatsoever. It

959
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: is that mental drive that gets you there. I think

960
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: if I applied that same mentality to this long walk,

961
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Speaker 1: I think I could do it. I think I could win.

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00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: A big factor for me is the weather, because that

963
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: really affects my runs right now as we are kind

964
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: of transitioning from spring into this weird summer remix. If

965
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: it is hot out, it is going to weigh me down.

966
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: But I think an advantage I have is I just

967
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Speaker 1: don't get tired when it comes to my legs or

968
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: my feet. I can keep going. If I did this

969
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: long walk and had comfy shoes, I think I could

970
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: go the distance. But this gets brutal. I have to

971
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: imagine some mental games start being played among you and

972
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 1: the other people trying to win this prize. You start

973
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: messing with them a little bit. But I think the

974
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: part that really comes into play is you can't stop.

975
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: You can't go to sleep, So that is probably the

976
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: biggest factor. Is you're getting no rest. Three miles an

977
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: hour may not sound like a lot, like, oh I

978
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: could do that once you're not eating, not sleeping. Just

979
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: that alone is enough to drive you insane. So I

980
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: can't wait to see how that is going to play

981
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: out in this story. In the trailer, you see them

982
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: having the physical things that start happening to their bodies,

983
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: where they're walking on broken feet. It looks like or

984
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: maybe one of them walks so much, maybe breaks their ankle.

985
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: Oh oh, And that part of the trailer was hard

986
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: for me. Anything with broken bones or anything snapping ough,

987
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: that just gets me because that just tingles this weird

988
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Speaker 1: part in my body that I don't like seeing that.

989
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: This movie technically falls into the horror category, But to

990
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: me it feels more like a dystopian thriller because I

991
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: can handle blood and guts people getting killed, but as

992
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: soon as somebody snaps an arm or more specifically a

993
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: leg or an ankle, that just gets me. I can't

994
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: handle that level. That is true horror to me. The

995
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: cast in this is also interesting. Who you heard at

996
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: the beginning of the trailer is Mark Hamill. Yes, the

997
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: one and only Luke Skywalker. He also does a renowned

998
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: Joker in Batman, the animated series. He plays the person

999
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: overseeing this deadly journey, and I think somehow works in

1000
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: this role perfectly. I like seeing somebody like him who

1001
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: people just love him because he is associated with one

1002
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: of the greatest movie characters of all time, Luke Skywalker,

1003
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: seeing him in a way that we're not really expecting

1004
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: to and I have to imagine his character in this

1005
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: is gonna be pretty twisted based upon what he's done

1006
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: with the character Joker in the animated series. I think

1007
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: he really has that in him. Also in this cast

1008
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: you have Cooper Hoffman, who you may remember if you

1009
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: watch Licorice Pizza, which was the Paul Thomas Anderson movie

1010
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: with one of the highest Sisters. He is also the

1011
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: son of the late Philip Seymour Hoffman, and you can

1012
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: really see that comparison in this trailer. You also have

1013
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: David Johnson, who I loved in Alien Romulus. It looks

1014
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: like they are probably gonna be the two people who

1015
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: last the longest in this movie because they do appear

1016
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: to be the bigger names in this cast. It also

1017
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: in the trailer focuses on their two characters the most,

1018
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: so I have to imagine one of them is going

1019
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: to win. I feel like this movie is gonna get

1020
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: heavy at times. That first death that they show in

1021
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: this trailer is really jarring. But just with that death,

1022
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: it has me invested in this story already. It's not

1023
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: coming out until September twelfth, but I'm excited for it,

1024
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: and I can tell that you guys are already excited

1025
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: for it because everybody sent me the trailer. I just

1026
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: love it when a movie like this can come out

1027
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: with the trailer and spark a conversation. That is what

1028
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: the movie industry needs to do right now. Make movies

1029
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: like this that get people talking that one allow us

1030
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: as the viewers to put us in that situation, but

1031
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: also create something that makes me want to go see

1032
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: it in theaters because I have to see how this

1033
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: plays out. That creates that immediacy, and that creates movie

1034
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: moments that translate over into pop culture. That is how

1035
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: you do it. And again, I am always backing the

1036
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: horror genre because I do believe they are the most

1037
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: innovative as far as creating movies like this that become

1038
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: a part of just everyday conversation. So I love it again.

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Speaker 1: The Long Walk is coming out on September twelfth, twenty

1040
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: twenty five.

1041
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: Said that was this week's edition of Movie by Tramer

1042
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: Bar and.

1043
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: That is going to do it for another episode here

1044
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: of the podcast, But before I go, I gotta give

1045
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: my listener shout out of the week. We had an

1046
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: interview last week with Robert Schwartzman, the director of the

1047
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: new documentary for the Zombies. He was also in The

1048
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: Princess Diaries. He has some famous family. His uncle is

1049
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Francis Ford Coppola, his cousin is Nicholas Cage, and his

1050
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: other cousin is Sophia Coppola, who also put him in

1051
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: her movie The Vergon Suicides. Posted a clip on that.

1052
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: Overall my social media if you miss that, But that

1053
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: is where I have this week's listeners shout out of

1054
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: the week on Instagram. It goes to mal Tag ten eighteen,

1055
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: who said, when did Your Heart Go Missing? Is such

1056
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: a great song by Rooney. I had no idea he

1057
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: was in the Princess Diaries in that band. Because of

1058
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: that interview, I did find myself in a Rooney wormhole.

1059
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: I remember back in the early two thousands going to

1060
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: Hot Topic, going to Hastings and seeing their self titled

1061
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: album because it had the Big Bear on it and

1062
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: just said Rooney and I always thought that was a

1063
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: cool album cover. My favorite song off that album was

1064
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm Shaking, which was I think the big hit off that.

1065
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: The song you're talking about here, Maltag, I believe was

1066
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: on the album that came out in two thousand and seven,

1067
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: calling the World. So if you missed that interview with

1068
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Speaker 1: Robert Schwartzman, just go back one in the feed. He

1069
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: also talks about his brother Jason Schwartzman. Thanks for all

1070
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: the comments, the messages, and again, if you ever have

1071
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: a trailer you think I need to talk about in

1072
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: the trailer park, send it to me on social media,

1073
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: hit me up on email Moviemike D at gmail dot com,

1074
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Speaker 1: And until next week, go out and watch good movies

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Speaker 1: and I will talk to you later