WEBVTT - Hour 1 – Celtics Didn’t Adjust, Justin Tucker Released

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, the Knicks and the Nuggets both winning

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. Will dissect that. You got the Pacers

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<v Speaker 1>at the Cabs tonight, that's game two, Pacers are getting nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Warriors at the Timberwolves Game one. The Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>are getting seven. The Ravens cut Justin Tucker, perhaps a

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<v Speaker 1>So Gilbert will join us a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 1>Poll question, play of the Day, stat of the Day,

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<v Speaker 1>All of that forthcoming. But a wild night last night

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<v Speaker 1>as the Knicks come back beat the Celtics and Boston

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<v Speaker 1>misses forty five three pointers forty five out of sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets beat the Thunder and Joker goes for forty

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<v Speaker 1>two and twenty two. I mean go back to the Knicks,

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<v Speaker 1>because I thought they were in trouble down twenty and

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<v Speaker 1>Boston didn't change its philosophy. They weren't hitting shots, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were still leading. And then you kept wondering, do

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<v Speaker 1>they go inside, do you maybe take a two at

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<v Speaker 1>one point? Do you try to go to the free

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<v Speaker 1>throw line? Just something that will break up the rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>of missing all these three pointers. Well that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Knicks come back from twenty down, and that

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<v Speaker 1>rally is the biggest postseason comeback in franchise history. But

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<v Speaker 1>Boston had to help sixty three pointers, that's the most

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<v Speaker 1>ever an NBA playoff game, and missing forty five of

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<v Speaker 1>the sixty that's obviously the most in an NBA playoff

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<v Speaker 1>game as well. But I was curious about the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty seven of the forty nine shots Boston took in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half and three pointers. They went ten for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven on those shots. And at some point I

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<v Speaker 1>have to go against the analytics. Now I know Boston. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>they had uncontested shots, they were missing threes. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to miss these shots throughout this series. But at

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<v Speaker 1>some point I want to see some kind of alteration.

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<v Speaker 1>I want an adjustment there. How about you go for

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<v Speaker 1>a two. How about you instruct your players to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>run something inside and not just perimeter jumpers here, they

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<v Speaker 1>are really good three point shooting team. But when you're

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<v Speaker 1>not that then there has to be a point where

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Okay, maybe we should stop shooting threes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not our night. But they never got to that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're going to have game two. Do I think

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's philosophy is going to be the same. Absolutely, But

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<v Speaker 1>can the Knicks play better? I think, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>Boston hits two more threes, they win this game. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the Knicks played a perfect game. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they hung in there. Brunson had a chance to win

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<v Speaker 1>it with a layup in regulation. Og and Nanobi. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they had the guys. These are the guys that they

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<v Speaker 1>brought in Bridges. They brought them in to beat Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>This happens a lot of times in pro sports, where

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Okay, we got to beat that team. How

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<v Speaker 1>do we beat that team? We got to get players,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was their sole focus. We got to beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we match up with them? And last night

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks did a really good job of staying in

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<v Speaker 1>and having composure. Here. Because you're down twenty on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably going, all right, we'll chalk this up, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a loss. We'll come back. I mean, even Denver. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought a quick turnaround, it could either be really close

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<v Speaker 1>or really ugly, and I was leaning towards OKC. They

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<v Speaker 1>were a nine and a half point favorite. They were

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<v Speaker 1>going to blow out the Nuggets. But then that young

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<v Speaker 1>team sitting there resting waiting. Meanwhile, Denver a quick turnaround

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<v Speaker 1>and they surprise okay See and Joker. I know this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a referendum on well see, who

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<v Speaker 1>should be the MVP. Shay Giljos Alexander is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the MVP, and he should be because of what

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<v Speaker 1>he did during the regular season. But there's a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>that has developed between these two teams. So the Nuggets

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<v Speaker 1>come back from fourteen down, the thunder a blown double

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<v Speaker 1>digit leads three times against Denver this season. Stat of

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<v Speaker 1>the Day brought to you by Panini America. So they

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<v Speaker 1>lost those three games to Denver and they blew double

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<v Speaker 1>digit leads to them. Denver's a good team, smart team,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have guys who who can make plays. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think Aaron Gordon was going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>guy at the buzzer with a three pointer, but Chad

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<v Speaker 1>Holmgren missed a couple of free throws. He was late

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<v Speaker 1>trying to close out Aaron Gordon. Gordon is actually percentage

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<v Speaker 1>wise a good three point shooter, but you had Joker

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<v Speaker 1>who kept him in the game, putting up monster numbers there.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, keep in mind the Pacers already beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Cavaliers. What are the odds that Golden State could

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<v Speaker 1>complete the opening round sweep for road teams as they're

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<v Speaker 1>a seven point underdog against the Timberwolves. All right, Seaton,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the pole question today? Got a couple options here

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Well, we could start with will the Nicks

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<v Speaker 1>win another game in this series?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Or no?

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<v Speaker 1>Gentlemen, sleep my sweep?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Paulie said, dover, which team will advance? Nick Nuggets are neither? Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of fun, Nick Nuggets neither.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd sent this to me. Who had a better night,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brunson or Aaron Gordon? I would say Aaron Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>hit the game winning shot. I mean, the Knicks had

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<v Speaker 1>a great night. Aaron Gordon's had a really good month, Yes, Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>But I.

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<v Speaker 6>Find it fascinating how you, you know, how you would

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<v Speaker 6>decide what would be the you know, you know, a

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<v Speaker 6>moment obviously wins the game.

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<v Speaker 4>So you think that's the obvious one.

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<v Speaker 6>But then in a huge game and a huge series

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<v Speaker 6>on the road, to see what Jalen Brunson did, and

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<v Speaker 6>he kept popping three up to three and brings him

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<v Speaker 6>back from twenty points, and at least an argument can

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<v Speaker 6>be made that through the course of the game for

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<v Speaker 6>each of those two games that you can would say Jalen.

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<v Speaker 1>Brunton, I would say Aaron Gordon hit the game winning shot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what makes an interesting all right, thank.

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<v Speaker 5>You, is it felt like Jalen Brunton had just won

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<v Speaker 5>the game and thenn lost it almost immediately right after. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>it felt like that was man that needed to go

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<v Speaker 5>in because there's no way that the Knicks are going

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to keep the Celtics back.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so good at creating space because he's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big guy, but he takes on contact. He just is

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<v Speaker 1>really good at knowing what he does well. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that there's a lot of guys who have talent,

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<v Speaker 1>they just don't know what they really do well and

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<v Speaker 1>they try to do too much. I think Anthony Edwards

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes colors outside the lines a little bit there, like

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<v Speaker 1>he tries to do too much and because he's got

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<v Speaker 1>all of that god given ability. But Brunson, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's just so good at knowing I do this really

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<v Speaker 1>really well, and I'm not trying to do other things here.

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<v Speaker 1>But what other pole questions are we looking at? First hour?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think we go which team will advance. We

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<v Speaker 5>could also look to the West as well, or maybe

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<v Speaker 5>we could split it up East and West if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to do that. I think we'll focus on the

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<v Speaker 5>NBA playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right by the way, here is Jalen Brunson on his

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<v Speaker 1>team down twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>The toy sailler.

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<v Speaker 7>Just keep leiaving and just keep firing and sticking together

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<v Speaker 7>and keep tripping away. Was it going to be a

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<v Speaker 7>twenty point shot where you can just come back? We

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<v Speaker 7>got to keep chipping away possession by possession and then

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<v Speaker 7>just finally I keep getting sup So make a place

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<v Speaker 7>offensive one as.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, and also hoping the Celtics continue to miss

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<v Speaker 1>three pointers I have. According to DraftKings the updated NBA

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<v Speaker 1>title odds, the Thunder is still the favorites, then the Celtics,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by the Calves, and then a distant fourth the Timberwolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and then even further down the list, the Nuggets and

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors are tied at plus eighteen hundred thunder r plus

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<v Speaker 1>one seventy five Celtics plus two ten Calves plus five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred Timberwolves plus eleven hundred. Okay, so phone calls are welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to those. Email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>handle at DP show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock,

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<v Speaker 1>radio affiliates around the country. Yes, Pauline, I want to.

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<v Speaker 8>Go back to what you said about the Celtics. They're

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<v Speaker 8>missing all those threes, and should Joe Missoula say right

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<v Speaker 8>time out, let's take it the whole reset a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>I wonder if analytics overrules him, because I would think

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<v Speaker 8>the analytics would say, let's keep shooting because we're due

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<v Speaker 8>to make based off our history. They lead the league

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<v Speaker 8>this season in three point attempts forty eight per game.

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<v Speaker 8>By far, they led a league in three point makes

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<v Speaker 8>I wonder if analytics told them, don't stop, keep shooting.

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<v Speaker 8>It will work itself out.

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<v Speaker 1>But at what point do you say it's not our night,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there has to be a point of no return.

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<v Speaker 8>But I wonder if coaches are taught now to not

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<v Speaker 8>fight analytics, not go with their gut, because analytics is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Removal of gut.

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<v Speaker 8>And I wonder if Joe Molzula says, Nope, don't do it,

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<v Speaker 8>stick with it, stick with it, stick with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I believe that you have to go with your

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<v Speaker 1>gut sometimes, like if you go by just the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I see baseball. You know managers they outmanage themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>they out think themselves, instead of going with this app

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<v Speaker 1>how's he throwing and he's throwing great, No, he's throwing

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one pitches. He's got to come out. Man, he's

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<v Speaker 1>throwing pretty well skipped. I know he's going to come out.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to break up the rhythm. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to get points. And if it's a free throw, two

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<v Speaker 1>free throws, maybe it's just a mid range jumper. I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to get something to break this skid that

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<v Speaker 1>we're on. That would be my approach if I'm playing

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<v Speaker 1>or if I'm coaching, Let's just get something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but don't you kind of see that, like all right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he's pitching, and he's had sixty pitches, and you have

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<v Speaker 5>this data in front of you that says, as soon

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<v Speaker 5>as he hits sixty one pitches, he usually falls off

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<v Speaker 5>a cliff.

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<v Speaker 1>I would don't you look at that and be like

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<v Speaker 1>pull him out. I watch Aaron Boone mismanaged games all

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<v Speaker 1>the time because it feels like he is just married

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<v Speaker 1>to analytics. I now pronounce you manager and wife, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a problem with that. But look, I'm old school.

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<v Speaker 1>I do accept analytics. I think that we're behold olden

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<v Speaker 1>to analytics, and we're like, we hold on because you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to a press conference and you can say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers were on our side.

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<v Speaker 9>There.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers show that we you know, I should pull

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<v Speaker 1>this pitcher or we should keep shooting threes. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a great excuse. I just I think there

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a feel that you have with your

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<v Speaker 1>team sometimes. Ben. Maybe that's just the old school in me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I understand what you're saying. Yes, it says after

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one pitches, then all of a sudden, the batting

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<v Speaker 1>average goes up to three eighty seven, seven times out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten.

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<v Speaker 5>It works out this way, and you have to have

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<v Speaker 5>a tremendous amount of belief in your gut and your

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<v Speaker 5>intuition to say, yeah, but this is probably the eighth

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<v Speaker 5>time or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I say to my catcher that's all I

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<v Speaker 1>care about. How's how's he throwing? Now, he might say, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, time to take him out? Or you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, they're not even coming close. Now I can

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<v Speaker 1>say to my pitcher, leave in for one I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you get out of this jam. I'm gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>you in for one more better. That's just feel and

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<v Speaker 1>trusting your players. That's the only thing that I would

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<v Speaker 1>argue or push back on that. Joe Mizzoula knows we

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<v Speaker 1>do this really well. Okay, at what point are we

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<v Speaker 1>not doing this well? We've had open looks too. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy part. They're not going to shoot this poorly

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the series. But then I expect the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks to be a little better as well. Yeah, Paulie, it.

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<v Speaker 8>Seems like the NFL is still gut over analytics. We

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<v Speaker 8>talk about fourth and ones and stuff, and you hear

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<v Speaker 8>coaches from the Bills, well, fourth and one, you should

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<v Speaker 8>do this, and they don't. It feels like NFL coaches

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<v Speaker 8>do a little more gut than analytics and tight situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I think the younger coaching staffs, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>are going with analytics. You know that, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you're supposed to do in this situation. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, really, you know Harball talks about this or Lafleur.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these younger coaches are like, yeah, we can

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<v Speaker 1>go for yes, Marvin.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Going back to last night's game, if I'm a Celtics fan,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm pulling my hair out because Jason Tatum had a

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<v Speaker 10>one on one a couple times with Brunson or Og

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<v Speaker 10>and he could have gone straight to the rim and

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<v Speaker 10>he backed up maybe another five feet to take a

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<v Speaker 10>step back three pointer. I would have been pulling my

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<v Speaker 10>hair out. Now, normally he makes it, but like you said,

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<v Speaker 10>last night was not their night.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make it easier for you to

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<v Speaker 1>guard me if you know I'm not going to the

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<v Speaker 1>hoop and I'm going to be on the perimeter. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he has a height advantage, but still I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to stay on the perimeter. It's such a huge

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<v Speaker 1>advantage though, I think for the defense that you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go inside, and that was what was surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to break up the rhythm here, yeah, pauling, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Wonder what an analytics coach would have said. Jalen Brown

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<v Speaker 8>missed his first nine threes over nine, then he hit

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<v Speaker 8>one when he was over nine. Would analytics tell you

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<v Speaker 8>to tell him to stop shooting threes and taking the hole?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't? Yeah, I would say go in there and get

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<v Speaker 1>a get found.

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<v Speaker 8>Now that's got Yeah, analytics have said Jaylen Brown, shold

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<v Speaker 8>keep shoo because based off his history, he's due to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul. I've never lost a playoff game in my lifetime. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never coached one, but I've never lost one. I defeated, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know what I'm talking about now. Anytime that

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<v Speaker 1>I struggled shooting, I would always think, just get free throws,

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<v Speaker 1>like just stop whatever is happening. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to be able to slow it down and don't

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<v Speaker 1>let the Knicks get momentum or get that feeling of man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in this because you took away that feeling when

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<v Speaker 1>they were down twenty. You took away their hope, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden you'll allowed it to come

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<v Speaker 1>back by missing all these shots, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the Nicks are going uh, we can win

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<v Speaker 1>this game like the Nuggets. I'm watching and I go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't stop Joker, all right, they're doing okay here, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, they're fouling. Okay, I don't know about that flying.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't gordon ballgame and sort of how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised, but I was not shocked that the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens released Justin Tucker, the most accurate kicker in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the NFL, and he had been there thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>years and of course sixteen. Massage therapists say Tucker's actions

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate sexual behavior in nature happened between twenty twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, and I wondered if he was an all pro,

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<v Speaker 1>if he was still Justin Tucker, would he still be

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<v Speaker 1>on the team, and I would argue that he probably

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<v Speaker 1>would be until we find out exactly what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>these cases here. But he's a seven time All Pro.

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<v Speaker 1>But he struggled. He made seventy three percent of his

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<v Speaker 1>field goal percentages and he missed two extra points. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens drafted a kid out of Arizona, Tyler Loop, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixth round, and his numbers are okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's not Sebastian Janikowski first round talent, but you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring him in. Justin Tucker was set to make

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<v Speaker 1>seven million dollars and he became expendable. And here's another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people were going, Oh, they're going to say

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<v Speaker 1>this is football only. Well, they have to say that

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<v Speaker 1>they can't release him because of you know what's gone

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<v Speaker 1>on the inappropriate beg. I mean, he's got to have

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<v Speaker 1>at least the opportunity to defend himself, I would think.

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<v Speaker 1>But they can use football reasons. You know, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>litigation with hey, we're releasing you you didn't perform well,

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<v Speaker 1>which he didn't. He left himself open to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having them bring somebody in. He struggled during the season

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<v Speaker 1>at times. I think they talked about bringing in kickers.

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<v Speaker 1>They were trying to give him confidence. But he has

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<v Speaker 1>been released, and I don't know if you're a team,

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<v Speaker 1>can you pick him up right now with all of this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what is the upside? You might be getting somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who can return to his Hall of Fame form. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens in five years, six years when he's eligible for

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame? How do the voters sort this out?

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<v Speaker 1>Not supposed to factor in stuff off the field, but

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<v Speaker 1>you do. I think that's the human nature part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>But sixteen massage therapists, and I believe these are civil

0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>lawsuits with him, but they said it was a football decision,

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly difficult. The team thanked him for years of service.

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<v Speaker 1>He is currently under league investigation after the allegations of

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<v Speaker 1>sexual misconduct. Here's another question I have, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any answers. I'm not trying to litigate this as

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<v Speaker 1>much as just asking a question. This inappropriate behavior allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>occurred between twenty twelve and twenty sixteen. Why did it stop?

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<v Speaker 1>Did it stop? Nobody else has come forward, So from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve to twenty sixteen, sixteen different massage therapists, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>report incidents. What happened after that nine years later? Nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>But I wonder if there's any correlation between him struggling

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<v Speaker 1>and then these lawsuits coming to light, because it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>felt like there was some kind of synchronicity here. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of the great kickers of all time, but

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<v Speaker 1>he made himself vulnerable by not performing thirteen years. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>h Hall of Famer, and he was famous too, like

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of difficult for kickers to be famous.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Vinteri's winning Super Bowls. Janikowski was just a big

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<v Speaker 1>personality there. But getting in, you know, Morten Anderson, what

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the all time leading scorer. But you know, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get into the Hall of Fame as a kicker,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough to do because you got get somebody's attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And the kickers have gotten so good that you almost

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<v Speaker 1>are shocked when somebody misses an extra point or misses

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<v Speaker 1>from fifty yards down. It's weird. I'm more surprised when

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>they missed from fifty than I am when they miss

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<v Speaker 1>an extra point. It's just they've gotten to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where automatic and this guy was mister automatic and now

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the outside looking in.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Paulin, Yeah, Justin Tucker's struggles started a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>in twenty twenty three. He was one for five from

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<v Speaker 8>fifty plus and he was usually automatic. He actually did

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<v Speaker 8>a poll question a year and a half ago, would

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<v Speaker 8>you rather have Justin Tucker or all a Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 8>running back? And Justin Tucker won the pole. That's how

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<v Speaker 8>he was thought of in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Baltimore, I guess is bringing in Florida state kicker

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Fitzgerald as well, but so over the Patriots and

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the Commanders. He was an All American first team All

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<v Speaker 1>American thirteen for thirteen field goals, fourteen for fourteen on

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<v Speaker 1>extra points. But I guess he was going to sign

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<v Speaker 1>with Carolina as an undrafted free agent. But it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like kickers bounce around. But occasionally you get that

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<v Speaker 1>guy who is with you for over a decade and

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Tucker now cut by the Baltimore Ravens. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to some phone calls here eight seven to

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<v Speaker 1>seven three DP show Gilbert in La, Hi, Gilbert, what's

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick? Good morning, Patrick, Good morning everybody. Patrick. So talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Justin Tucker and the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, if he's gotten so bad and guys have

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<v Speaker 11>gotten so good, I mean I would definitely take Justin

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<v Speaker 11>Tucker on the forty nine ers of her. Jake Moody,

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, that guy couldn't hit anything.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a kicker.

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<v Speaker 11>We miss him, we miss the Roddy Gold. But I

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<v Speaker 11>think anybody's better than Jake Moody at this point, what

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<v Speaker 11>do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, Well, you can call me Dan, but thank you, Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Would I take on Justin Tucker? Now? No, I would not. No,

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I would not if it's Justin Tucker with no baggage. Okay, maybe,

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but they're clearly You know, this is like golf, where

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>you go, whatever happened to that guy, and all of

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a sudden they just forget how to be great to

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>make putts. You know, you're a kicker, that's all you do. Kick,

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden you get inside your head.

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:54.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, guys can be a really good shooter, and

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.199
<v Speaker 1>then they go to the free throw line or like,

0:23:57.520 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, you know, free throw

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>percentage is in the sixties. You get into your own

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 1>head and everything that he was carrying around with him

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>probably he brought to the game and out there when

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>he's kicking. Uh, Drew and Columbus, Good morning, Drew, what's

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 2>Five eleven, one ninety. That's an honor, Thank you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting real tired of people talking about analytics and

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>then they say it and the act like the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>has to end because they said the word analytics, Like

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 2>there's no difference between winning about twenty and when by

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<v Speaker 2>forty or material difference to the Celtics win the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But also these analytics are accrued over the course of

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<v Speaker 2>the season when you play a lot of bad teams.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can fight analytics with analytics, right, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>does the analytics say when you're playing the top five

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<v Speaker 2>defense which the next are? Or in baseball, what do

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<v Speaker 2>the analytics say when you're facing a top ten hit?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do they change? So people really have to start

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<v Speaker 2>taking the analytics with a grain of salt because you

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<v Speaker 2>can cut those variables anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>You Yeah, I'm with you on it, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to sound like the get off my line guy

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<v Speaker 1>because I understand, you know, the numbers here and numbers

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<v Speaker 1>don't line in certain situations, but I do think there

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<v Speaker 1>has to be there. It has to be open to interpretation.

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<v Speaker 1>What am I thinking? What am I feeling? And if

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<v Speaker 1>you have analytics, if you're the Celtics, you're analytics. Do

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks have your analytics as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How much of this is a secret? It's we know

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<v Speaker 1>what you do and you know what we do. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's the advantage here? Hey, these are the analytics and

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<v Speaker 1>they say we should keep shooting threes. Okay, we know

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you're going to keep shooting threes and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>play this style of defense. Some of the misses, like

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Jason Tatum hit the didn't even hit the rim on

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<v Speaker 1>one of the threes, and it was an open top

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know, key jumper, like you can miss

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<v Speaker 1>and have it rattle in and out, you know, almost.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there are other times when you start missing

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, hey, Jason, go in, take it inside.

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Brunson's on you take it in. Sign post him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Get some free throws here that for the life of me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. And I've watched, you know, go back

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<v Speaker 1>to when John Starks had that night marriash performance against

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<v Speaker 1>the Rockets, but he kept shooting. At some point there's

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<v Speaker 1>diminishing returns to keep shooting. Now, you might say, and hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this myself, Well I'm gonna make the next one.

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make the next one. At some point, doubt

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>creeps in. I don't care how great a shooter you are.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, consciously, subconsciously, it seeps in. Yeah, there

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>does have to be.

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<v Speaker 5>That moment where it's like, uh, all right, I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>gonna get to the hoop, get a quick two, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>an N one, change the rhythm a little bit, like

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<v Speaker 5>you're saying. But it is funny how a player like

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<v Speaker 5>say Jason Tatum, he's a shooter. I'm just gonna shoot

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<v Speaker 5>my way out of it, and the guy next one

0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 5>was like, yeah, me too, And the guy next to

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<v Speaker 5>him he's like, yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I just gotta shoot my way out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, guys like us, we're just shooters, right.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, you can't have everybody be like I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>gonna shoot my way out of it too, Yes, Pauling.

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<v Speaker 8>I went back and looked at the Celtics last three

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<v Speaker 8>games versus the Knicks in twenty twenty five. They shot

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<v Speaker 8>forty two on the season three points versus the Knicks,

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:19.719
<v Speaker 8>that was the second best team they faced as far

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<v Speaker 8>as three point percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, at some point you have to go inside.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>You have to break up the rhythm. That's all. It

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be, Hey, we're not shooting any more threes, guys,

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>let's just break up the rhythm. Let's get somebody to

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>score some points. Let's you know, we're up twenty. We

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>don't need to continue to force this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, smart, VP relaxed Kevin Mchaley and walking through that door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he's not shooting threes. He probably would have

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 1>to be. No, I don't know. They'd probably said, Kevin,

0:27:52.680 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants a two. Get outside, Robert Parry, Robert. Yeah,

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody's shooting threes. Not everybody should shoot threes, but they

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, then Porzingis was out. Al Horford had to

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 1>play more. Al Horford looked his age. It was it

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>was just a game. They lost a game. They lost

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>it home, Okay, got their attention. Cleveland. Cleveland is in

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>worse shape because they got injuries here, and the Pacers

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.479
<v Speaker 1>are a good team. I said, I wouldn't be surprised

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>if they won this, you know, beat the Cavs it's

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<v Speaker 1>just they're not famous. Nobody covered them. The analyst will

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>tell you they play the hits. Nobody's watching, you know,

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the Pacers and just not. Pacers got more coverage when

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Halliburton's dad went toe to toe with Yannis. That's the

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>most coverage they got the entire season and lost in

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>That was Halliburton's game winning layup against Giannis. It's that

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>this is the world we live in. Nobody's covering Detroit.

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Nobody cover the Rockets. You know that they're playing they

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a top forty radio station. We're going to play

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the same hits over and over and over. That's when

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>we're surprised. We're like, damn, such and such as good

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>like a yeah, amen, Thompson man, that guy's pretty good.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You know we played the entire year. Yeah okay, yes, Marvin,

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>only you.

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<v Speaker 10>Were playing the indie rock band that nobody ever heard of, Like, oh,

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 10>Polo ban Cao, Why are we talking Polo Bankaro.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, I mean, this is just my approach. However,

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you know you're told to you know, networks tell you

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to hear about Lebron and you know, Luca

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and I understand all of that, and I worked there

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<v Speaker 1>for eighteen years. I just think being fair to your sport.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's your job as a reporter, as an analyst,

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<v Speaker 1>then be fair to your sport. Single out some of

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>these guys. Kate Cunningham was great the entire season, not,

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>says man. Look at him in the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, Mark, going forward for the rest of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 10>Is there one player you suggest that everybody watches.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say Evan Mobley, but I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>his status is for Game two Defensive Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have to think about that, but it'll probably be

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that you don't normally focus on. Probably not. All right,

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a break. We'll settle on our poll question. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>update our pool question. Doc Emrick, the Great Doc Emerck

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<v Speaker 1>will join us. Probably been a while since he's done

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>any play by play. Oh, Fritzy is going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Is Kevin Harlan impersonation? Kevin Harlan on the call last

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<v Speaker 1>night with the Celtics and the Knicks. So we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>that for you. But coming up next play the day.

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<v Speaker 12>Second free throw home gird you kissed it again. Rebound

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<v Speaker 12>down to Christian Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a hurry.

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<v Speaker 12>Eight seven seconds front court, over to Westbrook, left side

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<v Speaker 12>Gordon for the win. Yeah, two point eight seconds left,

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<v Speaker 12>coming back the other way. Williams from half court take it.

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<v Speaker 12>No good at the horn and the Denver Nuggets shocked

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<v Speaker 1>of Very Good we brought this up years ago. We

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>bring this up usually on an annual basis, like Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson Hall of very Good, Al Horford, maybe the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Very Good. I think Paul gets a little too

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<v Speaker 1>generous when he goes Aaron Gordon Hall of very Good,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would say Aaron Gordon is the Hall of.

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<v Speaker 8>Good, which there is not a Hall of good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's in the neighborhood. It's in the subdivision,

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the brick and mortar hall. So there's Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the Hall of very Good, there's the Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good, there's the Hall of good. That's how I

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<v Speaker 1>see it. Aaron Gordon is the Hall of pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good. Never been an all star, yes, sEH.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>I just need to get the order correct. There's the

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of Fame, hall of Fame, then there's the Hall

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<v Speaker 5>of very good. Yes, then pretty good. It's pretty good

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<v Speaker 5>as above good. Yeah see, I just feel like the

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of he's pretty good or the Hall of No

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<v Speaker 5>He's good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Hall of good. Yeah, no, he's very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good. Pretty good to me is a fourth tier good. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to if we're going to put a

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<v Speaker 5>poll question up about this, I just need to know

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<v Speaker 5>the third option is either going to be pretty good

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<v Speaker 5>or good.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought pretty good was adding to good. Okay, let's

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>go pure good. He's pretty good. Okay, okay, maybe it's

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the inflection. Maybe I'm selling it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing the same thing. Though, he's good, he's he's

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<v Speaker 5>pretty good. Aaron Gordon Hall of Fame, very good, pretty good. No, No,

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<v Speaker 5>he's well, he's not a Hall of Famer. Well, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I know that, But I just feel like we got

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<v Speaker 5>to Pott, don't we. Yeah, in case Aaron Gordon's family

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 5>wants to book. Yeah, I don't want to be hater. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be just rude. Yeah, Hall of

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<v Speaker 5>like Joe Johnson is the Hall of very Good.

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<v Speaker 8>He's a founding father.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Is he on the Mount Rushmore of very Good? Yes, yes, Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>along with Al Horf Al Horford. Al Horford's a Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer.

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<v Speaker 4>Though he's going to get in.

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<v Speaker 1>He will get in the Hall of Fame because he

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>won two national titles in college and he's had a

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>long career and he's won a couple of titles. He's

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the Hall of very Good, yes, Martin.

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<v Speaker 4>Old school reference Hall of very Good, Tom Chambers.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Chambers should be in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 4>See Hall of very Good. Now some people should be

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 4>in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Chambers. If I was just looking at his highlights

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the other day, of course I was looking at his highlight.

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>He put up sixty in a game. Basketball player. Now,

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Tom Chambers was athletic. He was a really dynamic player.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I got. I was watching Tom chamber highlights that was

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>It's on Facebook, and all of a sudden I locked

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>into Tom Chambers and I go, damn he was He

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 1>was good. He was Hall of Famer, yeah, pauling.

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<v Speaker 8>But checking the h OBG criteria, Aaron Gordon, he averaged

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<v Speaker 8>like fifteen and eight almost every year.

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's not Hall of Fame, right, hall.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 8>Of very good. He very famous, dunk contest famous.

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he didn't even win the dunk contest.

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 8>Which is another reason very good.

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he's he's in the Hall of Good. You know,

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>he's just a good player.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.399
<v Speaker 8>Okay, I hate to bring this up. Gilbert Arenas joining

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<v Speaker 8>us later today. Three time All.

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<v Speaker 1>Star, he won a scoring title.

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 8>He averaged twenty nine one year, twenty eight one year,

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 8>which is very Hall of very goodish.

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he's not a Hall of Famer there

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>it is. Yeah, yes, he see, That's why I think

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>he's so interesting.

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 5>The timing of having him on is perfect because he

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 5>is right in line with that. Yesterday we were talking

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 5>about James Harden and Russell Westbrook. The next in that

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 5>exact same line of player could be Gilbert Arenas. He's

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 5>in that category of Damn, why the hell isn't this

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 5>guy winning? Why isn't this guy getting a ring? Why

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 5>didn't Why didn't that work?

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Harden and Westbrook were MVPs, and they did

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>lead the league in scoring and one average a triple double.

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're far more decorated than Gilbert.

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 5>They are, but I just feel like talent wise, he

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 5>felt like a guy at least. Maybe I'm over selling

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 5>it a little bit, but I feel like he would

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 5>be in that list of five guys.

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that are like, damn, I thought this dude would

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten a ring. He should have been better, should

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<v Speaker 1>have been better. Yes, Yes, he was a bucket, Yes, Marvin.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the thing with Gilbert was his prime wasn't

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<v Speaker 10>long enough. If he had those same numbers for another

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<v Speaker 10>three years, he would be in the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 10>by now. Six time All Star, yeah, five time All

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<v Speaker 10>NBA player, Because I think the prime was only as

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<v Speaker 10>far as a top five top ten player was only

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<v Speaker 10>for three years. So I think that's what puts him

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<v Speaker 10>in the Hall of Good is that the prime wasn't

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<v Speaker 10>long enough. It's not like he averaged eighteen points for

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<v Speaker 10>ten years. He had just like three monster years where

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<v Speaker 10>he'd put up crazy numbers. So I think that's the

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<v Speaker 10>thing with Gilbert Reinas.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, lost in the Aaron Gordon jumper chat,

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<v Speaker 1>Holmgren misses two free throws there, and then you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>is Westbrook going to take the shot? Is Joker going

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<v Speaker 1>to take the shot? And Aaron Gordon was open and

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<v Speaker 1>Homegren didn't close out. He hesitated because they didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>a three, they needed a two to win the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Holmgren thought, I don't want to flash

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<v Speaker 1>and get out there and then have Aaron Gordon beat

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<v Speaker 1>me at the buzzer. And he got out there too late.

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<v Speaker 1>And but give credit to Gordon. I mean, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big shot. It's not the shot I would have drawn up,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, it worked. Angela in Oklahoma, Hi Angela, what's

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 13>Hi? Dan five six, one hundred and twenty three first

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<v Speaker 13>stem collar. Yeah, And first of all, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 13>say I'm you know, I'm upset about the thunder, but

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<v Speaker 13>the play of the day is well des hurt kudos

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<v Speaker 13>on that. I'm also a poker player. I loved the

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<v Speaker 13>Joker but didn't care for him last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Angela sounded a little bit like Pandora, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>it going on, little man?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Jay We love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand Jay stand Jay? Oh Dan, Oh Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>Give us.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets me every time. Hot Tom in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Tom, Hey Tom.

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<v Speaker 9>He loved the sound of Pandora.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I want to kind of like get off a little

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<v Speaker 9>bit of little topic about to do. I want to

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<v Speaker 9>talk about tonight's game Minnesota and Golden State. So I

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<v Speaker 9>know your favorite player, Rudy Gobert, Hall of very Good

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<v Speaker 9>maybe you know No.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's not the Hall of very Good. No, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know continue.

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<v Speaker 9>I was looking at a stat I saw that h

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<v Speaker 9>Draymond Green. He's got four technicals. Do you foresee the

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<v Speaker 9>Timberwolves poking the bear trying to get Draymond to be

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<v Speaker 9>Draamond to maybe possibly get up to that seventh technical

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<v Speaker 9>and get suspended.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, yeah, sometimes you'd I don't even have to

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<v Speaker 1>poke it. He'll he'll do the honors himself, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really interested to see how Draymond and Rudy and the

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<v Speaker 1>Goberts do. I am, yes, Barton.

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<v Speaker 10>I hate to burst your bubble, but I really think

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<v Speaker 10>Rudy Gobert ends up getting into the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 4>But he got three or four Defensive Player of.

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<v Speaker 1>The Year award probably Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>The criteria to get into the Hall of Fame in

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<v Speaker 10>basketball isn't as high as the others, so there's a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of Hall of very good guys that end up

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<v Speaker 10>getting it into the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I guess, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Pul, But if every player from the Basketball Hall of

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<v Speaker 8>Fame were out on a court and they're picking sides,

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<v Speaker 8>Rudy might be standing there a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm not gonna take him anytime soon. He should

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<v Speaker 1>be dominating in this series. Golden State doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>big guy, the Lakers didn't have a big guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>should get twenty rebounds, he should be blocking five shots.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the surprise is people are surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>he had a big game. He's supposed to.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yes, Marvin unrelated, but hallo very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Baron Davis, Yeah, I'll give you that there's some guys. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's quite a few of those. Nick van Exel. Nick

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<v Speaker 1>van Exel was underrated.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say Rock Strickley.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching highlights of Nick van Exel this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Facebook, I was, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Davison mixed in.

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<v Speaker 4>Some Anton Walker highlights.

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<v Speaker 1>Life doc Camrick is going to join us. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>more of your phone calls as well. One hour in

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<v Speaker 1>the books, two more to go.