WEBVTT - #410 - Turbo 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.280 What up is Turbo? 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:03.000 Mister run that back Turbo, and I want you to 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:06.320 check me out right now on a Bootleg kV podcast. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.160 Yo, Bootlet cav show Man. We got a special guess 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.240 in here. His name is Turbo. 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:13.960 You might know him. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.880 You heard his tag on it all these damn big records. Uh, 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:19.880 one of the biggest producers in the game is here. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:20.400 Welcome. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:22.119 Thank you, bro, thank you, Yes, sir? 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:22.920 How's up? 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.160 First of all, man, I know you're one of the 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.560 very few artists who could say they have a diamond single. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:30.600 Yep. 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.479 And I didn't even realize Drip Too Hard was diamond. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:34.800 Like Ace was like, make sure you bring up the 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.239 fact he's got a diamond record, and I was like, 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.320 it's Drip too Hard diamond Damn sure. It's crazy. Yeah, 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.000 that's got to feel crazy because that's not there's not 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.920 that many people who could have that on the resume 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:49.920 these days. Bro, that's like Michael Jackson. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.040 Shit, that's ten platinum records. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.360 Yeah, if you don't know, yeah, nah, yeah, it do 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.400 feel crazy. I mean, I guess it's just a blessing, bro. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.000 Like I can't I can't call it anything. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.200 You know, what was your kind of like because I 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.720 guess that's kind of the project that we kind of 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.920 like you became more like a household name of hip 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.920 hop that tager yours. Kind of give me a little 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.640 breakdown on like your come up as a producer in Atlanta, 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:22.479 because it is a very very flooded marketplace for producers 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.560 these days, and it's hard to break through, it's hard 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.520 to get placements. So kind of give me like a rundown, 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.440 like how you started producing and like just your come up. 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:34.400 Well, I started engineering, So engineering was like I got 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.680 fired from my job and that became my job, you 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.280 know what I mean. And that's how I was hustling 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.560 and making money. But I always had the passion to 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.600 be a producer. Engineering was literally just how I ate, 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.720 you know, from day to day. But that's also how 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.600 I met all the artists. And at that time, Atlanta 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.880 was a place it still is, but it was even 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.800 more of a place where we just embraced everybody. So 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.200 if you was from Atlanta and you knew you know 0:01:58.280 --> 0:01:59.960 such and such, or you went to high school such 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.920 and such, you had an opportunity to get inside the 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.000 studio if you knew what you was doing. So I 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.280 took so many of those opportunities, just friends and people that. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.400 I grew up with, Like, you know, I'll record you 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:09.720 for free. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:10.720 I got beats for free. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.200 Shit, I'll sit here all night for free, you know 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.639 what I mean, whatever it is, and I just slowly 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.519 just started. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.200 They give you an inch and you took a foot. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.880 I took like three feet he took you know what 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:22.200 I mean? 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.560 People don't even know, Like even like the Metro and 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.520 twenty one Savage album, I recorded most of that. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:29.720 Oh that's crazy. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.760 Yeah, I recorded most of that, and even like X Bitch, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:33.880 I recorded that. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.519 That was like my engineer career. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.960 And then when Gunner kind of started getting his traction, 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.680 that was the first person that was just rapping on 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.200 my beats. And we did Okay and Drip season three 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.720 together and all that stuff, and that's when it was like, Okay, Turbo, naa, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.480 he's not an engineer, he's a producer. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:50.799 Yeah. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.640 A lot of people who don't know, like, first of all, 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.480 if you're a producer or an artist, to have the 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.160 ability to be an engineer as well, Yeah, it's such 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:00.880 a nice way to just get in the door. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:02.680 Like I could record. 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.800 You record yourself, you know what I mean, like, but 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.959 like so many dope producers and artists, I know, they 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.239 started off as the guy in the studio that no 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:13.480 one really pays attention. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.040 To, that's running the pro tools, doing the effects. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.680 And like also, if you're a good engineer, you low 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.760 key are doing some sort of production too on that 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.000 fucking record face because you're you're you're dropping ship out 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.919 your you're you might put some effects on some ship. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.760 Like, so that's dope. Like if you're an engineer out there. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.200 That's why I tell all my homies, like my my 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:36.760 guy who runs my studio here, he's my engineer, but 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:38.080 he's also a producer and songwriter. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.600 You gotta do both these days. You gotta do THEMN 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.040 there three things these days just even cut through. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.000 You had to just bring value to the table man. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.120 Super value and be consistent for sure. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:47.840 Damn. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.160 So you were in the studio, So for you, like, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.720 were you was it like a thing where everyone knew 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.320 you made beats? Or did you not want to like 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.080 be the guy who's the engineer who's also hey, by 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.760 the way, y'all, I got some here's that guy I 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.080 was there, you know what I mean? 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.760 But you had some heat so there's a difference. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.240 Yeah, it's like, oh this I'm the engineer that got 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.600 some shit, you know what I mean. And it's like, oh, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.160 call him back tomorrow and call him back. You know, 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.640 you can call me in an hour and I'm gonna 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.080 be there in an hour, you know what I mean. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.800 It's not it's not no boozie shit, you know. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.880 What I mean. Is it like, because I would say 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.680 that about Atlanta, is it feels like a much more 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.800 I wouldn't say easy, but it feels like more of 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.440 a community, you know, in terms of the music side, 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.359 because being in LA, I feel like everybody's real like 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.520 stingy with the connects, stingy with just everything with their energy. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.080 I feel like in Atlanta it feels like like I mean, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.159 I've gone to Atlanta studio sessions and everyone's just hanging out. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.680 Like people could just pull up like it. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.440 Do you do you feel that difference now that you're 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.839 I'm sure you're going to LA sessions or you're in 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.520 the mix more in different places. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.200 It's nothing like Atlanta. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.200 Yeah, it's nothing like home. It's nothing like the South, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.800 you know what I mean. But especially Atlanta, that's a 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.880 place where, like you you know, to embrace whoever's coming up, 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.680 you know, to embrace Atlanta, you know, to fuck with 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.440 the younger guys, you know what I mean, that's. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:04.760 Part of the culture. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.960 It wasn't until I started traveling that it was like, Oh, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.479 I'm not supposed to tell you, you know, like you know 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.800 this guy or introduce you to get this guy. Is like, 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.600 that's y'all. Don't do that type of shit. Like I 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.320 do that shit all the time, you know what I mean. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.120 It's almost in the dna of that city to like 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.120 like be on the because I mean, Atlanta's had the 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.400 culture for twenty twenty five years now fact, so it's 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.880 almost like it's the most Atlanta shit ever to break 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.720 artists because eddy of the new shit's always coming out 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.120 of the South. It's very seldomly it'll be out of 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.520 New York or it'll be out of LA. So it's 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.120 almost like that's kind of what y'all do. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.200 Yeah, you gotta make your stop in Atlanta. You gotta 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.280 spend some months in Atlanta and run through those studios 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:44.320 and see what they feel like. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.560 Do you feel like that's something Because we always have 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.320 these conversations about LA artists not breaking through because there's 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:53.440 some really dope, talented LA artists that for whatever reason, 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.359 like get to a certain point and then they have 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:56.960 a hard time kind of getting over the hill in 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.640 terms of like maybe being hot in the South. Or 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.719 do you feel like because like a guy like we 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.359 got a homie Kaitlin for real, for real, who he 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.560 went out to Atlanta for like a year and just 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.760 cooked hung out with DJ's And I feel like that's 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.600 important for anybody, Like you said, no matter where you're from, 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.760 you could be from fucking Indianapolis, you could be from 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.560 wherever you gotta go. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:18.480 Spend some time in the A. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:24.479 Yeah facts, I mean, I know Kaitlin too. Yeah, I 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.359 mean I don't I don't know what it is, but 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.440 you have to stop through there. It's like how LA 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.360 used to be, you know what I mean, And everybody 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.400 had to come to l A for some type of reason. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.039 You got to go to Atlanta to feel that culture. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.400 You got to I don't know what, I don't know 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:37.960 what it is. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.839 You have some some wings the Blue Flame, for god. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.440 Sake, Yeah, some chicken or some ship. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.080 What's the strip club out there that I had? I had? 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.239 They're playing they play some shitty music. They got good lamb. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:56.880 Chops cheetah yes, yeah, yes, yeah, that's the g T 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.480 A THET. They got the nickelback playing yeah food good 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.320 as a moff, like a Metallica nickel. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:03.560 Yeah. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.000 They that kind of updated it a little more, you 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.320 know what I'm saying a little a little bit. But yeah, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:09.920 that's the place where you're going to eat at and 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:11.720 throw one dollar at a. 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.240 Time, one time. Yeah, you fold it up. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.760 Yeah there, GTA Yeah. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.160 Uh, you got your own holiday in Fulton County. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:26.440 Yep. Turbo Day Yep. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.360 That's gotta be fucking sweet man. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.560 It's incredibly what happens at like what we see that happening, 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.120 but like what comes with that anything cool? 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:37.920 I mean we're organizing right now the Turbo Day July eighth. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.840 It's just really like an opportunity for me to just 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.120 do stuff for like the kids in the community. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.600 So you kind of turned into an opportunity to help 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:45.080 the community. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.680 Yeah, you know what I mean, give it give it 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.680 an actual time and place instead of it, you know, 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.440 me coming for a Memorial Day or something like that 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.800 and trying to do something or compete so Thanksgiving, yeah, 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:57.640 you know, turkey driving all that stuff. 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.920 I did Turkey drives this year too, But with your 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.840 day is like it came about. 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.800 I was trying to do something for the community, but 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.360 you needed like permits and all of this stuff to 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.280 take over, like the parks and stuff down there. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:11.160 You can't just do it. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.800 And I got to working with the city and we 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.160 just couldn't knock it out last year, and they gave 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.200 me a day just for even trying and trying to 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.840 really like make it happen because nobody does anything on 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.360 that side, and that it. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.440 Just be easier to just do it this year. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:26.840 You know, I already know who the right people to 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.960 call and how to organize everything. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.040 So it's it's for me. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.480 It's just a way to show the kids, this is something, 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.560 This is what you do once you get to this 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.560 place and inspire these kids because it was nobody that 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:41.560 was doing that when I was young. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.520 What is for people who are watching this, maybe some 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.200 kids who are watching this who are trying to figure 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.800 out the production game? What is your layout? Are you 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.640 using pro tools or using fruity loops? Like? 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.680 What is your production interface? Your go to? 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.719 That's some exclusive shit, but I'm gonna tell you know 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.240 what I mean. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:08:59.839 But I you. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.439 A number of things, so it could be a little 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.720 bit of able ten for my melodies and into FL 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.640 and I mix it in pro tools or reverse it. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.600 And you know, if we're going through the through the keyboards, 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.920 I'm recording in pro tools and taking it to fl 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.240 and cleaning it up and able to. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.199 But that's like usually my main. 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:21.960 Three, those three. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.280 You know, it's crazy, Like I feel like more hip 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.640 hop producers should use able to because I feel like 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.600 they don't. Yeah, because Ableton, like it's hard to use. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.520 It's very intimidating when you open it. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.720 Yeah, yeah, that's the word. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:35.520 Yeah. 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.559 But like I feel like because I've like, I got 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.560 a homie of mine who uses Ableton, and he'll show 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.120 me things you can do in able ten, And I'm like, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.600 why isn't everybody using this? This is crazy shit difficult 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.640 to use. No, but it looks crazy because it looks 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.840 different than like fruity loops or pro tools. It's like 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.960 its own thing. And then they got that able to touch 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.160 with all the buttons and shit, Yeah, it's difficult. It's difficult, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:56.680 but it's hard. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:56.880 Though. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:57.720 What do you like? 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.599 Do you are you like active looking for packs. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.520 In terms of your sounds and ship or you like 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.079 having people send you packs or you getting loops? 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.160 Are you doing like your own loops? Like give me 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:09.080 you say packs? 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.600 Like you got it? Like you're like where you get 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.800 your drums? Are you finding your own drums? Are you 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.400 are you grabbed? Yeah? 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.680 Kinda like if it's like a certain time and I 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.679 need a certain thing, I'll tweet it out and they're like, 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.440 all the guys will send me something, yeah, and I 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.760 go through them. But I got a programmer in Atlanta 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.360 and he just keep me up to date with all 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.680 the newest, newest ship. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.400 What about on the loop side, because that is an 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.440 entry point for a lot of up andcoming producers. I'm 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.520 stepping away from loops. I'm doing my own melodies. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:34.880 Okay. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:40.360 It's like the loop game is just became a fucking 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.920 It's not the loop game anymore, you know what I mean. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.080 It's like a it's like a different place, and I 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.880 feel like it's it's no originality in it. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.560 Yeah, for people who don't know, because it's some producer 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.760 geeks to talk. Like, if you're an up and cooming producer, 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.520 you might send out, Hey, I'm looking for some loops, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.160 right Yeah, And so that might be your way in 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.079 if you got some or samples or loops, that could 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.880 be your way into getting your first placement. And but 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:07.800 then you got, like you said, the loop ship's getting 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.280 so washed washed down because it's because it's all these 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.720 free loops. What's the website called with all the fucking 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.439 packs and Splice and there's all this shit. So it's 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.440 like I always compared to like dj and Serato, like 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.880 when Soerado came, like it made DJing so much easier, right, 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.600 you didn't need to have these turn record and I 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.840 feel like Splices like that with producers because like you 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.360 really don't need to know how to make a beat. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.480 All you really got to do is just line up 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.520 bars and like you could go on Splice and if 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.680 you're at least like semi competent on pro tools, you 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:39.760 can get it. You can get it. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:40.920 You can make a beat for sure. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.280 So it's like I've just noticed that like just so 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.120 much more. I'm like, you know, we had an artist 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:47.560 we were working with and this kid never made a 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.440 beat before, and he downloaded a bunch of shit on 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.679 Splice and he played a beat and I was like, hey, yo, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.559 who did this He's like I just did it. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.880 And I was like, you just did it. He's like 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.160 it's the first beat IVE ever made. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:11:59.760 N Bake. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.400 I was like, this, shit is what's happening? Like, how 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:04.240 is this possible? 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.600 Like, because you know, when I was a kid, we 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.840 had the funk Master Flex video game on a PlayStation 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.920 two MTV Degenerate on the first PlayStation. You make beats 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:17.199 on the PlayStation it was fire. Yeah, So there was 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.400 this MTV beat making video game on the first PlayStation, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.839 and then there was a funk Flex beat making game 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.080 on the PS two that was fire. Like you could 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.800 like program beats on this fucking game. There was like 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.160 actual like some producers who would like actually like run 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.320 the PlayStation into like pro tools and take the beats. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:35.520 Out of it. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:36.319 Super fire. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:40.120 You used to check it out, but it just always 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:45.240 seemed like this super complex process. But I feel like 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.520 it's just been simplified so much, especially with like, you know, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.679 obviously rooty loop has been popular for twenty years now. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.480 But for you, is it like how hard is it 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.000 for you to kind of stay inspired when there's just 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.520 so much shit out there? 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.360 Oh, just living a regular life, you know what I mean? 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.920 Not putting too much pressure on myself. It's not It's 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.800 not really hard because you know, back in the day 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.040 when it was like all about bands and stuff like that, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.200 they literally would just sit around and jam out. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.040 It wasn't anything like, oh, we're gonna go and make 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:15.480 a beat. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.520 And so I just try to live like a regular 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.880 life and just enjoy my day. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:22.000 I always say that. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.360 If I have a good day, then it's just gonna 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:23.920 pour out of me. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.400 I don't have to smoke and do all this weirdsh 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.760 just like whatever whatever I'm feeling that day, and then 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:31.240 I let it be. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:32.760 It's gonna be, and I go on to the next day. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:37.079 I hit that as getting toasted. Here these lights. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:43.160 You don't smoke, Yeah, smoke, I ain't even meant depend on't. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.080 It's not like it's not like, oh, I'm finna get 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.280 high as a motherfucker to go and make music. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.600 You know what I mean. I can drip too hard beat. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.199 I made it on the computer speakers, you know what 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:57.080 I mean, Like falling asleep from leaving the studio one 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.600 morning and didn't think it was gonna do anything. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.280 Let me ask you this, because your chemistry with Gunn 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.720 is pretty crazy. We don't get a lot of you know, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.960 when I was growing up, we had producers and artists 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:15.200 locked the fucking Riz and wan Claim the Bang Star, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.680 but DJ Premiere and Guru and but I feel like 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.440 you guys are kind of your own version of that, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.440 and it's been it's been like that for a while. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.160 How did you initially meet Gunning? We found the same neighborhood. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.240 Okay, so you've known him for a very long time. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.040 Yeah, yeah, was he? 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.920 Because I always say, like between him and Baby over 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.320 the last like six or seven years, just the like 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.640 improvement at just bars and like actual rapping is like 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.520 I don't I'll venture to say, we have never really 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.960 seen somebody like jumps so far ahead at just the 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.720 skill of rapping in a short amount of time. Did 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.240 you always kind of see that in him? 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.800 I think in the beginning it was just like any producer, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.640 you just want somebody to rap on your ship. So 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.280 we was from the same side, We knew each other, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.680 we had mutual friends, and it was it was just 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.840 easy and I knew it was something different. But I 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.240 can't just say, you know. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.440 Because he's very different for people like like we're used 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.160 to the sound now because everyone's taking it. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.080 Yeah, done their own version of what gun right, But. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.080 Like seven years ago, six years ago, five years ago, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:20.720 it wasn't the sound. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.240 Everybody was like what the fuck is this? 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.760 Yeah, so like you really had to kind of be like, man, 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.200 this is different. We just gonna roll with it, like yeah, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.240 I mean I make beads to spigure this out. It 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.280 felt good, Yeah, you know what I mean. It wasn't 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:32.560 It wasn't no pressure. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.160 And like you know, at that time, like nobody was 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.280 doing guitars and I love the acoustic music, and he 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.960 sounded good on guitars, and it just it just worked. 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:41.120 Bro. 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.840 It was like it was it was a natural thing. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.040 It wasn't anything that was for so even just seeing 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.480 something different, the only thing I could see different was 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.760 we're gonna stay in the studio the longest. Ethics gonna 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.800 it matches, you know what I mean. He's not leaving 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.400 before me. I'm not leaving before him. And it's damn 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.520 there a competition. So early on, that's what we was doing, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.600 we leaving the studio seven in the morning and coming 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.120 right back at twelve. To the point where, like especially 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.480 those days right before it popped off, I really remember 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.760 asking myself what am I doing this for? 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:14.280 Right? 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:14.880 You know what I mean? 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.000 I didn't have much success, but I'm like, bro, we 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.400 really going to the studio and we in the studio 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:19.880 all day. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.400 I don't got all this time and bandwidth into this 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:24.880 and you don't even know if it's gonna work out. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.400 I don't even know what we're doing this for, you 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:28.720 know what I mean. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.920 It's like, what do we try? 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.480 I know we're working on a project and it was 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.240 Drip season three at the time, but you know, I 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.240