Speaker 1: What up is Turbo?
Speaker 2: Mister run that back Turbo, and I want you to
Speaker 2: check me out right now on a Bootleg kV podcast.
Speaker 3: Yo, Bootlet cav show Man. We got a special guess
Speaker 3: in here. His name is Turbo.
Speaker 1: You might know him.
Speaker 3: You heard his tag on it all these damn big records. Uh,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest producers in the game is here.
Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 4: Thank you, bro, thank you, Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: How's up?
Speaker 3: First of all, man, I know you're one of the
Speaker 3: very few artists who could say they have a diamond single.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: And I didn't even realize Drip Too Hard was diamond.
Speaker 3: Like Ace was like, make sure you bring up the
Speaker 3: fact he's got a diamond record, and I was like,
Speaker 3: it's Drip too Hard diamond Damn sure. It's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's got to feel crazy because that's not there's not
Speaker 3: that many people who could have that on the resume
Speaker 3: these days. Bro, that's like Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: Shit, that's ten platinum records.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't know, yeah, nah, yeah, it do
Speaker 2: feel crazy. I mean, I guess it's just a blessing, bro.
Speaker 2: Like I can't I can't call it anything.
Speaker 3: You know, what was your kind of like because I
Speaker 3: guess that's kind of the project that we kind of
Speaker 3: like you became more like a household name of hip
Speaker 3: hop that tager yours. Kind of give me a little
Speaker 3: breakdown on like your come up as a producer in Atlanta,
Speaker 3: because it is a very very flooded marketplace for producers
Speaker 3: these days, and it's hard to break through, it's hard
Speaker 3: to get placements. So kind of give me like a rundown,
Speaker 3: like how you started producing and like just your come up.
Speaker 2: Well, I started engineering, So engineering was like I got
Speaker 2: fired from my job and that became my job, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And that's how I was hustling
Speaker 2: and making money. But I always had the passion to
Speaker 2: be a producer. Engineering was literally just how I ate,
Speaker 2: you know, from day to day. But that's also how
Speaker 2: I met all the artists. And at that time, Atlanta
Speaker 2: was a place it still is, but it was even
Speaker 2: more of a place where we just embraced everybody. So
Speaker 2: if you was from Atlanta and you knew you know
Speaker 2: such and such, or you went to high school such
Speaker 2: and such, you had an opportunity to get inside the
Speaker 2: studio if you knew what you was doing. So I
Speaker 2: took so many of those opportunities, just friends and people that.
Speaker 4: I grew up with, Like, you know, I'll record you
Speaker 4: for free.
Speaker 3: I got beats for free.
Speaker 2: Shit, I'll sit here all night for free, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, whatever it is, and I just slowly
Speaker 2: just started.
Speaker 1: They give you an inch and you took a foot.
Speaker 3: I took like three feet he took you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 2: People don't even know, Like even like the Metro and
Speaker 2: twenty one Savage album, I recorded most of that.
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I recorded most of that, and even like X Bitch,
Speaker 2: I recorded that.
Speaker 3: That was like my engineer career.
Speaker 2: And then when Gunner kind of started getting his traction,
Speaker 2: that was the first person that was just rapping on
Speaker 2: my beats. And we did Okay and Drip season three
Speaker 2: together and all that stuff, and that's when it was like, Okay, Turbo, naa,
Speaker 2: he's not an engineer, he's a producer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A lot of people who don't know, like, first of all,
Speaker 3: if you're a producer or an artist, to have the
Speaker 3: ability to be an engineer as well, Yeah, it's such
Speaker 3: a nice way to just get in the door.
Speaker 1: Like I could record.
Speaker 5: You record yourself, you know what I mean, like, but
Speaker 5: like so many dope producers and artists, I know, they
Speaker 5: started off as the guy in the studio that no
Speaker 5: one really pays attention.
Speaker 1: To, that's running the pro tools, doing the effects.
Speaker 3: And like also, if you're a good engineer, you low
Speaker 3: key are doing some sort of production too on that
Speaker 3: fucking record face because you're you're you're dropping ship out
Speaker 3: your you're you might put some effects on some ship.
Speaker 1: Like, so that's dope. Like if you're an engineer out there.
Speaker 3: That's why I tell all my homies, like my my
Speaker 3: guy who runs my studio here, he's my engineer, but
Speaker 3: he's also a producer and songwriter.
Speaker 2: You gotta do both these days. You gotta do THEMN
Speaker 2: there three things these days just even cut through.
Speaker 1: You had to just bring value to the table man.
Speaker 3: Super value and be consistent for sure.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: So you were in the studio, So for you, like,
Speaker 3: were you was it like a thing where everyone knew
Speaker 3: you made beats? Or did you not want to like
Speaker 3: be the guy who's the engineer who's also hey, by
Speaker 3: the way, y'all, I got some here's that guy I
Speaker 3: was there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But you had some heat so there's a difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, oh this I'm the engineer that got
Speaker 2: some shit, you know what I mean. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: call him back tomorrow and call him back. You know,
Speaker 2: you can call me in an hour and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be there in an hour, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not no boozie shit, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean. Is it like, because I would say
Speaker 3: that about Atlanta, is it feels like a much more
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say easy, but it feels like more of
Speaker 3: a community, you know, in terms of the music side,
Speaker 3: because being in LA, I feel like everybody's real like
Speaker 3: stingy with the connects, stingy with just everything with their energy.
Speaker 3: I feel like in Atlanta it feels like like I mean,
Speaker 3: I've gone to Atlanta studio sessions and everyone's just hanging out.
Speaker 1: Like people could just pull up like it.
Speaker 3: Do you do you feel that difference now that you're
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're going to LA sessions or you're in
Speaker 3: the mix more in different places.
Speaker 1: It's nothing like Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nothing like home. It's nothing like the South,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But especially Atlanta, that's a
Speaker 2: place where, like you you know, to embrace whoever's coming up,
Speaker 2: you know, to embrace Atlanta, you know, to fuck with
Speaker 2: the younger guys, you know what I mean, that's.
Speaker 4: Part of the culture.
Speaker 2: It wasn't until I started traveling that it was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to tell you, you know, like you know
Speaker 2: this guy or introduce you to get this guy. Is like,
Speaker 2: that's y'all. Don't do that type of shit. Like I
Speaker 2: do that shit all the time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's almost in the dna of that city to like
Speaker 3: like be on the because I mean, Atlanta's had the
Speaker 3: culture for twenty twenty five years now fact, so it's
Speaker 3: almost like it's the most Atlanta shit ever to break
Speaker 3: artists because eddy of the new shit's always coming out
Speaker 3: of the South. It's very seldomly it'll be out of
Speaker 3: New York or it'll be out of LA. So it's
Speaker 3: almost like that's kind of what y'all do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta make your stop in Atlanta. You gotta
Speaker 2: spend some months in Atlanta and run through those studios
Speaker 2: and see what they feel like.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like that's something Because we always have
Speaker 3: these conversations about LA artists not breaking through because there's
Speaker 3: some really dope, talented LA artists that for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: like get to a certain point and then they have
Speaker 3: a hard time kind of getting over the hill in
Speaker 3: terms of like maybe being hot in the South. Or
Speaker 3: do you feel like because like a guy like we
Speaker 3: got a homie Kaitlin for real, for real, who he
Speaker 3: went out to Atlanta for like a year and just
Speaker 3: cooked hung out with DJ's And I feel like that's
Speaker 3: important for anybody, Like you said, no matter where you're from,
Speaker 3: you could be from fucking Indianapolis, you could be from
Speaker 3: wherever you gotta go.
Speaker 1: Spend some time in the A.
Speaker 2: Yeah facts, I mean, I know Kaitlin too. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I don't I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 2: you have to stop through there. It's like how LA
Speaker 2: used to be, you know what I mean, And everybody
Speaker 2: had to come to l A for some type of reason.
Speaker 2: You got to go to Atlanta to feel that culture.
Speaker 2: You got to I don't know what, I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 1: You have some some wings the Blue Flame, for god.
Speaker 4: Sake, Yeah, some chicken or some ship.
Speaker 1: What's the strip club out there that I had? I had?
Speaker 1: They're playing they play some shitty music. They got good lamb.
Speaker 3: Chops cheetah yes, yeah, yes, yeah, that's the g T
Speaker 3: A THET. They got the nickelback playing yeah food good
Speaker 3: as a moff, like a Metallica nickel.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They that kind of updated it a little more, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying a little a little bit. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the place where you're going to eat at and
Speaker 2: throw one dollar at a.
Speaker 1: Time, one time. Yeah, you fold it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah there, GTA Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, you got your own holiday in Fulton County.
Speaker 3: Yep. Turbo Day Yep.
Speaker 1: That's gotta be fucking sweet man.
Speaker 3: It's incredibly what happens at like what we see that happening,
Speaker 3: but like what comes with that anything cool?
Speaker 2: I mean we're organizing right now the Turbo Day July eighth.
Speaker 2: It's just really like an opportunity for me to just
Speaker 2: do stuff for like the kids in the community.
Speaker 1: So you kind of turned into an opportunity to help
Speaker 1: the community.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, give it give it
Speaker 2: an actual time and place instead of it, you know,
Speaker 2: me coming for a Memorial Day or something like that
Speaker 2: and trying to do something or compete so Thanksgiving, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, turkey driving all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I did Turkey drives this year too, But with your
Speaker 3: day is like it came about.
Speaker 2: I was trying to do something for the community, but
Speaker 2: you needed like permits and all of this stuff to
Speaker 2: take over, like the parks and stuff down there.
Speaker 3: You can't just do it.
Speaker 2: And I got to working with the city and we
Speaker 2: just couldn't knock it out last year, and they gave
Speaker 2: me a day just for even trying and trying to
Speaker 2: really like make it happen because nobody does anything on
Speaker 2: that side, and that it.
Speaker 3: Just be easier to just do it this year.
Speaker 2: You know, I already know who the right people to
Speaker 2: call and how to organize everything.
Speaker 3: So it's it's for me.
Speaker 2: It's just a way to show the kids, this is something,
Speaker 2: This is what you do once you get to this
Speaker 2: place and inspire these kids because it was nobody that
Speaker 2: was doing that when I was young.
Speaker 3: What is for people who are watching this, maybe some
Speaker 3: kids who are watching this who are trying to figure
Speaker 3: out the production game? What is your layout? Are you
Speaker 3: using pro tools or using fruity loops? Like?
Speaker 1: What is your production interface? Your go to?
Speaker 3: That's some exclusive shit, but I'm gonna tell you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: But I you.
Speaker 2: A number of things, so it could be a little
Speaker 2: bit of able ten for my melodies and into FL
Speaker 2: and I mix it in pro tools or reverse it.
Speaker 2: And you know, if we're going through the through the keyboards,
Speaker 2: I'm recording in pro tools and taking it to fl
Speaker 2: and cleaning it up and able to.
Speaker 3: But that's like usually my main.
Speaker 1: Three, those three.
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy, Like I feel like more hip
Speaker 3: hop producers should use able to because I feel like
Speaker 3: they don't. Yeah, because Ableton, like it's hard to use.
Speaker 1: It's very intimidating when you open it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the word.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But like I feel like because I've like, I got
Speaker 3: a homie of mine who uses Ableton, and he'll show
Speaker 3: me things you can do in able ten, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: why isn't everybody using this? This is crazy shit difficult
Speaker 3: to use. No, but it looks crazy because it looks
Speaker 3: different than like fruity loops or pro tools. It's like
Speaker 3: its own thing. And then they got that able to touch
Speaker 3: with all the buttons and shit, Yeah, it's difficult. It's difficult,
Speaker 3: but it's hard.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: What do you like?
Speaker 1: Do you are you like active looking for packs.
Speaker 3: In terms of your sounds and ship or you like
Speaker 3: having people send you packs or you getting loops?
Speaker 1: Are you doing like your own loops? Like give me
Speaker 1: you say packs?
Speaker 3: Like you got it? Like you're like where you get
Speaker 3: your drums? Are you finding your own drums? Are you
Speaker 3: are you grabbed? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Kinda like if it's like a certain time and I
Speaker 2: need a certain thing, I'll tweet it out and they're like,
Speaker 2: all the guys will send me something, yeah, and I
Speaker 2: go through them. But I got a programmer in Atlanta
Speaker 2: and he just keep me up to date with all
Speaker 2: the newest, newest ship.
Speaker 3: What about on the loop side, because that is an
Speaker 3: entry point for a lot of up andcoming producers. I'm
Speaker 3: stepping away from loops. I'm doing my own melodies.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: It's like the loop game is just became a fucking
Speaker 2: It's not the loop game anymore, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like a it's like a different place, and I
Speaker 2: feel like it's it's no originality in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for people who don't know, because it's some producer
Speaker 3: geeks to talk. Like, if you're an up and cooming producer,
Speaker 3: you might send out, Hey, I'm looking for some loops,
Speaker 3: right Yeah, And so that might be your way in
Speaker 3: if you got some or samples or loops, that could
Speaker 3: be your way into getting your first placement. And but
Speaker 3: then you got, like you said, the loop ship's getting
Speaker 3: so washed washed down because it's because it's all these
Speaker 3: free loops. What's the website called with all the fucking
Speaker 3: packs and Splice and there's all this shit. So it's
Speaker 3: like I always compared to like dj and Serato, like
Speaker 3: when Soerado came, like it made DJing so much easier, right,
Speaker 3: you didn't need to have these turn record and I
Speaker 3: feel like Splices like that with producers because like you
Speaker 3: really don't need to know how to make a beat.
Speaker 3: All you really got to do is just line up
Speaker 3: bars and like you could go on Splice and if
Speaker 3: you're at least like semi competent on pro tools, you
Speaker 3: can get it. You can get it.
Speaker 1: You can make a beat for sure.
Speaker 3: So it's like I've just noticed that like just so
Speaker 3: much more. I'm like, you know, we had an artist
Speaker 3: we were working with and this kid never made a
Speaker 3: beat before, and he downloaded a bunch of shit on
Speaker 3: Splice and he played a beat and I was like, hey, yo,
Speaker 3: who did this He's like I just did it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you just did it. He's like
Speaker 1: it's the first beat IVE ever made.
Speaker 3: N Bake.
Speaker 1: I was like, this, shit is what's happening? Like, how
Speaker 1: is this possible?
Speaker 3: Like, because you know, when I was a kid, we
Speaker 3: had the funk Master Flex video game on a PlayStation
Speaker 3: two MTV Degenerate on the first PlayStation. You make beats
Speaker 3: on the PlayStation it was fire. Yeah, So there was
Speaker 3: this MTV beat making video game on the first PlayStation,
Speaker 3: and then there was a funk Flex beat making game
Speaker 3: on the PS two that was fire. Like you could
Speaker 3: like program beats on this fucking game. There was like
Speaker 3: actual like some producers who would like actually like run
Speaker 3: the PlayStation into like pro tools and take the beats.
Speaker 4: Out of it.
Speaker 1: Super fire.
Speaker 3: You used to check it out, but it just always
Speaker 3: seemed like this super complex process. But I feel like
Speaker 3: it's just been simplified so much, especially with like, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously rooty loop has been popular for twenty years now.
Speaker 3: But for you, is it like how hard is it
Speaker 3: for you to kind of stay inspired when there's just
Speaker 3: so much shit out there?
Speaker 2: Oh, just living a regular life, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Not putting too much pressure on myself. It's not It's
Speaker 2: not really hard because you know, back in the day
Speaker 2: when it was like all about bands and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: they literally would just sit around and jam out.
Speaker 3: It wasn't anything like, oh, we're gonna go and make
Speaker 3: a beat.
Speaker 2: And so I just try to live like a regular
Speaker 2: life and just enjoy my day.
Speaker 4: I always say that.
Speaker 3: If I have a good day, then it's just gonna
Speaker 3: pour out of me.
Speaker 2: I don't have to smoke and do all this weirdsh
Speaker 2: just like whatever whatever I'm feeling that day, and then
Speaker 2: I let it be.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be, and I go on to the next day.
Speaker 1: I hit that as getting toasted. Here these lights.
Speaker 2: You don't smoke, Yeah, smoke, I ain't even meant depend on't.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's not like, oh, I'm finna get
Speaker 2: high as a motherfucker to go and make music.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I can drip too hard beat.
Speaker 2: I made it on the computer speakers, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like falling asleep from leaving the studio one
Speaker 2: morning and didn't think it was gonna do anything.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, because your chemistry with Gunn
Speaker 3: is pretty crazy. We don't get a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: when I was growing up, we had producers and artists
Speaker 3: locked the fucking Riz and wan Claim the Bang Star,
Speaker 3: but DJ Premiere and Guru and but I feel like
Speaker 3: you guys are kind of your own version of that,
Speaker 3: and it's been it's been like that for a while.
Speaker 3: How did you initially meet Gunning? We found the same neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've known him for a very long time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, was he?
Speaker 3: Because I always say, like between him and Baby over
Speaker 3: the last like six or seven years, just the like
Speaker 3: improvement at just bars and like actual rapping is like
Speaker 3: I don't I'll venture to say, we have never really
Speaker 3: seen somebody like jumps so far ahead at just the
Speaker 3: skill of rapping in a short amount of time. Did
Speaker 3: you always kind of see that in him?
Speaker 2: I think in the beginning it was just like any producer,
Speaker 2: you just want somebody to rap on your ship. So
Speaker 2: we was from the same side, We knew each other,
Speaker 2: we had mutual friends, and it was it was just
Speaker 2: easy and I knew it was something different. But I
Speaker 2: can't just say, you know.
Speaker 3: Because he's very different for people like like we're used
Speaker 3: to the sound now because everyone's taking it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, done their own version of what gun right, But.
Speaker 3: Like seven years ago, six years ago, five years ago,
Speaker 3: it wasn't the sound.
Speaker 1: Everybody was like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like you really had to kind of be like, man,
Speaker 3: this is different. We just gonna roll with it, like yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I make beads to spigure this out. It
Speaker 3: felt good, Yeah, you know what I mean. It wasn't
Speaker 3: It wasn't no pressure.
Speaker 2: And like you know, at that time, like nobody was
Speaker 2: doing guitars and I love the acoustic music, and he
Speaker 2: sounded good on guitars, and it just it just worked.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 2: It was like it was it was a natural thing.
Speaker 2: It wasn't anything that was for so even just seeing
Speaker 2: something different, the only thing I could see different was
Speaker 2: we're gonna stay in the studio the longest. Ethics gonna
Speaker 2: it matches, you know what I mean. He's not leaving
Speaker 2: before me. I'm not leaving before him. And it's damn
Speaker 2: there a competition. So early on, that's what we was doing,
Speaker 2: we leaving the studio seven in the morning and coming
Speaker 2: right back at twelve. To the point where, like especially
Speaker 2: those days right before it popped off, I really remember
Speaker 2: asking myself what am I doing this for?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I didn't have much success, but I'm like, bro, we
Speaker 2: really going to the studio and we in the studio
Speaker 2: all day.
Speaker 3: I don't got all this time and bandwidth into this
Speaker 3: and you don't even know if it's gonna work out.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what we're doing this for, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like, what do we try?
Speaker 2: I know we're working on a project and it was
Speaker 2: Drip season three at the time, but you know, I
Speaker 2: didn't know why we was working so hard. And you know,
Speaker 2: I mixed Drip season three and the same night he
Speaker 2: was trying to record and I remember him telling me,
Speaker 2: like because I was pissed. I'm like, bro, I've been
Speaker 2: missing this fucking album all day. Bro, Like, what do
Speaker 2: you mean play some beats? I don't got no beats.
Speaker 2: I'm tired. I want to just chill, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's like, Bro, trust the process, bro,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, you know, don't burn out and
Speaker 2: just place and beach.
Speaker 4: Just got to keep going. We fin to do it.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, he's crazy.
Speaker 3: Bro, But it really was the truth.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying and even comparing to like
Speaker 2: some of the producers I came in with, my trajectory
Speaker 2: has been way further, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it's a lot of guys I came in with,
Speaker 2: but they have success, you know, goal success, Like you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not happy unless it's platinum, right, And that became.
Speaker 3: A normal thing. But it was all about.
Speaker 2: What we was putting into the music and how much
Speaker 2: time we were spending on it. So that was like
Speaker 2: that was like a good lesson that I was able
Speaker 2: to learn with him. You know what I mean, what
Speaker 2: is his writing process?
Speaker 4: Like it is it?
Speaker 3: Because you know, everybody's got their own. I mean I've
Speaker 3: been in the studio with guys with it just beat
Speaker 3: to play for like five minutes, ten minutes, and they'll
Speaker 3: just lay down a bunch of shit, but I like
Speaker 3: this part.
Speaker 1: I like this part, and then they'll put it.
Speaker 2: Together kind of. I mean, he got his own recording process.
Speaker 2: But it's it's not like a you know, pinning pad
Speaker 2: type of thing. It's like a player b if you
Speaker 2: feel good, pull it up, you're gonna do it and
Speaker 2: we're gonna do something else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not really a this or that, and it's different
Speaker 2: every time.
Speaker 3: Have you had any because I saw an interview did
Speaker 3: not too long ago, because I thought it was dope
Speaker 3: how everything happened to way it happened, and you stood
Speaker 3: by your guy.
Speaker 5: Ye.
Speaker 1: Now you guys.
Speaker 3: Have a number one album, A lot of people saying
Speaker 3: album of the Year last year, snubbed for the Grammy, by.
Speaker 1: The way, insane, Yeah, snubbed.
Speaker 4: It happens.
Speaker 1: It's wild, Well it happened.
Speaker 3: But for you have like to kind of like be
Speaker 3: that loyal and still be like, yo, we're locked in
Speaker 3: because you were talking to him every day when he
Speaker 3: was locked up. I saw hasd Like were other relationships
Speaker 3: for you in the music industry affected by that?
Speaker 4: I don't know yet, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not weird when I'm out and when I'm doing stuff,
Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know yet.
Speaker 3: I always been.
Speaker 2: Like a person that just stay in the studio and
Speaker 2: keep to myself. So I was never chummy chum with
Speaker 2: people to the point to where I would notice like, oh,
Speaker 2: this guy's acting different, or this guy's acting different.
Speaker 1: You're not the guy who was like up in the mix,
Speaker 1: fucking You're You're about work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to your house party and shit every
Speaker 2: day and you know whatever, whatever people do. I enjoy
Speaker 2: being in the studio and just like working and learning
Speaker 2: new stuff.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 2: It's definitely, you know, something to think about when I'm
Speaker 2: moving around, But most of the time I forget, you know.
Speaker 3: Because it's it's nothing makes sense these days.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, for sure. I always tell people just like
Speaker 1: we don't even know what is really going right.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I think nobody knows what's going on. So it's like
Speaker 3: you got to be a leader at get off the
Speaker 3: shade room, man, you know what I mean. For you,
Speaker 3: I always wonder I know you didn't make this beat,
Speaker 3: but I know you were very heavily a part of
Speaker 3: the process of this album. The fuck you mean beat
Speaker 3: was insane? Yeah, were you like when you first just
Speaker 3: heard that beat? That beat is so crazy and that
Speaker 3: sampling that beat just that had to be because I
Speaker 3: can only imagine, like, as a producer, you probably hear
Speaker 3: beat everyone's.
Speaker 1: Like, fuck I wish I made that one. Yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: and that had to be one of those.
Speaker 2: But he was kind of like hesitant about the song
Speaker 2: really oh yeah, super hesitant, like and I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: this is hard, Like you need to put this, put.
Speaker 4: This on it.
Speaker 2: He like you think so. I'm like yeah, cause we
Speaker 2: was locked in and I had to go back to
Speaker 2: Atlanta for like a week, two weeks or something like that,
Speaker 2: and came back and he had it done and he
Speaker 2: was playing me just like all the new stuff, and
Speaker 2: he played that, but he was damn there fin to
Speaker 2: skip over it, and I'm like, what's this. He played
Speaker 2: it and I'm like, yeah, this is hard, and he's
Speaker 2: like you think so. I'm like, bro, you need to
Speaker 2: put that in comparison to everything else. You need to
Speaker 2: put this out. Was like, all right, it's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: dunk rock, that's that's my man. Doun'k been working for
Speaker 2: a long time for sure. He was sitting outside the
Speaker 2: studio in like twenty nineteen with a big ass sign.
Speaker 1: I remember that, Yeah, yeah that's the guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's me recording the video.
Speaker 1: Oh I remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's dunk rock.
Speaker 2: Like he been grinding for a long own time, and
Speaker 2: like he would come to all the events, producer events
Speaker 2: in Atlanta and in La anywhere, so I've been seeing
Speaker 2: him for a long time, so when I found out
Speaker 2: that that was his beat, I was more so more
Speaker 2: exciting about it, like oh yeah, like oh this is
Speaker 2: this is broke. And then when it started taking office,
Speaker 2: like you know, I like to see that, bro like
Speaker 2: if you're working and you doing you grinding like stuff
Speaker 2: that's not normal, you're not begging and it works for
Speaker 2: you on that type of level, Like I was more
Speaker 2: so happy for him.
Speaker 1: That's super far. You're working on like a compilation type project.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my album?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who else going to be on your album?
Speaker 2: Nobody will want to just confirm right now, you know
Speaker 2: how that shit go, you know.
Speaker 3: But it's definitely exciting.
Speaker 2: It's definitely something that you never heard of, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna put a put a pole inside the world of
Speaker 2: what my.
Speaker 3: Music sounded like. Okay, you know what I mean. Flag pole, flagpole.
Speaker 3: I was thinking it for Stripper pot first.
Speaker 4: Everything.
Speaker 3: We gotta leave it and go to the UH or
Speaker 3: obviously the Bauchler Records doing this thing, but like what
Speaker 3: is like, what, what's what's the plan when you're dropping
Speaker 3: more music?
Speaker 2: The bouncer or the Bachelor, The Bachelor, Yeah, Bachelor what's
Speaker 2: the plan?
Speaker 4: What it say?
Speaker 1: It's been the record's been out for like, when's the
Speaker 1: next record dropping?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we're trying to drop like springtime and
Speaker 2: really like catch those spring going into summer months. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be something, you know, fun And I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to weigh it out right now.
Speaker 3: See what I want to use. My catalog is nuts
Speaker 3: at this point. You probably got like so many songs
Speaker 3: just sitting in there. So many ain't even the word,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like so many times
Speaker 3: time six, you know what I mean. But I just
Speaker 3: want to I just want to make it make sense
Speaker 3: at this point, like these days, that timing is everything.
Speaker 3: Outside of Gunner, who's another artist that you would love
Speaker 3: to do like a full body of work with because
Speaker 3: that's in again.
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I was just telling about Court.
Speaker 2: I'm like bro like back in the day, like it
Speaker 2: used to be one producer, right, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And that was like the NAS days and the nineties
Speaker 2: and all that, like it was well, well not Nas.
Speaker 1: It felt very curated.
Speaker 3: It felt very like even if you're not getting every
Speaker 3: like like you know, it felt like the albums were
Speaker 3: moving in.
Speaker 2: Sonically because it was one sound, yeah exactly, so like
Speaker 2: it we got to get back to that to that point.
Speaker 2: I would love to do that with a lot of
Speaker 2: different people. I work a lot of a lot with
Speaker 2: Roddy and I'm doing like his next project right now.
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, how's it sounding because we're waiting incredible.
Speaker 3: Roddy's an alien people. People don't understand Roody's a fucking alien.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, he different.
Speaker 3: And it sucks because, like I feel like, please excuse
Speaker 3: me for being anti social. Came out in December of
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and then the Pandemic hits. The box is
Speaker 3: the biggest song in the fucking world, and like he
Speaker 3: really really wasn't able to like fully enjoy what that
Speaker 3: it's like with the world open.
Speaker 1: Like for real, Like I mean obviously he went on
Speaker 1: his tour right.
Speaker 3: Before the pandemic started, but like festival season was out
Speaker 3: for him, you know what I'm saying, the whole project,
Speaker 3: and you know he is for he's a literal anti
Speaker 3: social guy.
Speaker 1: Like he's an introvert. Like people think it's like a
Speaker 1: gimmick or something. It's not.
Speaker 2: No, we like one and the same. Like we talked
Speaker 2: he'll be telling me stuff. I'm like, bro, I do
Speaker 2: the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: He's an alien, Like he's so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah he's fired.
Speaker 1: So so you're handling a lot of his new projects.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm helping him pick out all the songs
Speaker 2: and like do the track listing. So that's somebody I'm
Speaker 2: that like a good friend of mine, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, We've been locked in for some years just
Speaker 2: on some some brother shit, just having conversations, not even
Speaker 2: about music.
Speaker 3: So with this is like I really want him to win. Yeah,
Speaker 3: me too, man. He's a great kid. Yeah, so that'd
Speaker 3: be hard for you. Man. I always say there's a
Speaker 3: few ways to go about the pub game, right, because
Speaker 3: it is a very interesting side of the game if
Speaker 3: you're an up and coming produce, Sir. Sometimes taking a
Speaker 3: pub deal to like too early could fuck you up,
Speaker 3: but sometimes taking it too soon can also help you
Speaker 3: out because they put you in a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of sessions and shit that might not have happened for you.
Speaker 3: Like, what would be the advice you would give in
Speaker 3: terms of how to navigate the pub world as a
Speaker 3: producer or a songwriter.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still got notes about the difference between
Speaker 2: co pub publishing and admin inside my phone to this day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: from just reading articles and teaching myself on what's the
Speaker 2: difference and being able to make a calculated decision. I
Speaker 2: didn't take a co pull up deal until like two
Speaker 2: years of success.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because for people who don't know, like an admin
Speaker 3: deal is very bare minimum. They're handling kind of they're administrating, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're they're they're handling kind of the grunt work of
Speaker 3: your pub. A co pup deal they're fully partners on
Speaker 3: your publisher for either for perpetuity, which you shouldn't sign
Speaker 3: never or like a tenured period or whatever the period is.
Speaker 4: Years is too long, but whatever it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, so there are differences for that. But
Speaker 3: like for you, like what what what made it make.
Speaker 1: Sense for you to do a co pub situation?
Speaker 4: Eventually the money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And where I was at in my life and in
Speaker 3: my career, I had already.
Speaker 2: Did admin deal and was making money and it was
Speaker 2: cool and I was able to live, but it was
Speaker 2: my situation, you know what I mean, And when the
Speaker 2: opportunity came, it's like, all right, cool, we're gonna take this,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And from that, I was
Speaker 2: able to pay my grandmother's house off, take care of
Speaker 2: my mom, take care of myself. You know, all of
Speaker 2: these different things that I that I always dreamt to do.
Speaker 2: The opportunity came and I did it. So I say
Speaker 2: for anybody, like the young guys, the older guys or
Speaker 2: whatever it is, it's like, you gotta really understand what
Speaker 2: these things are first and then make a calculated decision because.
Speaker 1: There's not a one shoe fits all situation.
Speaker 3: Everything could be different for everybody, Like different situations might
Speaker 3: work for you wherever you're at life or yeah, vice
Speaker 3: versas something.
Speaker 2: So I always say, like just educate yourself, Like the
Speaker 2: more you know about it, the easier to be able
Speaker 2: to make a decision when somebody does come, because they
Speaker 2: always come.
Speaker 4: You get a big song.
Speaker 2: You're getting called from everybody, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: And it's it's whatever it's gonna be, whoever you're comfortable with.
Speaker 4: But you gotta know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna happen if you catch one, it's everybody's
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you gotta you gotta know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: So what about for you, Like because IO notice some producers,
Speaker 3: once they get a lot more successful, your time, your
Speaker 3: bandwidth becomes like less available for making beats. How much
Speaker 3: of your time do you allocate to still actually like
Speaker 3: cooking up on the laptop or in the studio, Like.
Speaker 2: Bro, it's early as hell, I just left the studio. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying at like six this morning. Wow,
Speaker 2: it's like a job.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I don't treat it like a job because I'm living
Speaker 2: my dream. But I still you know, I'm still a hustler.
Speaker 2: I'm still out here and going to the studios and
Speaker 2: going from place to place and you know, taking over
Speaker 2: the room and letting people know that I'm here and
Speaker 2: I'm available all.
Speaker 3: This different stuff. So I would say all my time,
Speaker 3: because some people feel like they get on they start
Speaker 3: popping and then they got little mini producers under them.
Speaker 2: Man, that was like but their tags on it, and
Speaker 2: it's like read the credits.
Speaker 1: You know, there's thirteen motherfuckers on this.
Speaker 4: You know, Oh my god, that's the worst, Bro.
Speaker 3: I mean, And some producers that's what they do and
Speaker 3: they don't deny that that's what they do.
Speaker 2: And I get it, you know, as I get more
Speaker 2: into this game, and understand what it's about.
Speaker 4: You know, I get it.
Speaker 2: So it's not no shade on nobody, But for me,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I look up to like the
Speaker 2: Quincy Joneses of the world, and you know, the Doctor
Speaker 2: Dre's the people that were if you was gonna do that,
Speaker 2: it was gonna sound incredible.
Speaker 1: And it was gonna sound like them, and it was
Speaker 1: gonna be.
Speaker 2: Their sound, right, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 2: can't do that, and then you don't make a sound
Speaker 2: like Turbo has a sound. Turbo is a super producer.
Speaker 2: Turbo is like you know, you can it's like a
Speaker 2: for real beat and his thumb thumb. Everybody knows his
Speaker 2: sound without it even happen to be a tag on it.
Speaker 2: So if you're not doing that, then you're just cheating.
Speaker 3: I guess who's on your Mount Rushmore of producers all
Speaker 3: time hip hop, only hip hop, strictly hip hop.
Speaker 1: So take Quincy, you gotta take yourself off as well.
Speaker 1: You can't be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't even put myself on the Mount Rushmore. Yeah,
Speaker 2: four of them, four people, Timblin for sure, for sure,
Speaker 2: Timbling for sure. I would probably have to say it's
Speaker 2: not even probably Atoven.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 4: I love Atoven.
Speaker 2: That's huge fan of Atoven, Justice Lee, I love Justice
Speaker 2: Leg You're gonna have to put them all on one head.
Speaker 4: And then you said four more.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, damn you killing me? Only hip hop? Only
Speaker 3: hip hop doctor dre doctor Justice League so hard.
Speaker 4: Justice League is crazy, like all the raw shit.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to always compare like my Circle and
Speaker 2: the playmakers to like a mixture of Justice League because
Speaker 2: it's real music and it's real compositions, but like the
Speaker 2: trap sound.
Speaker 4: Of like eight Away my fear, that's fire.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to like, yeah, you know what I
Speaker 2: mean and make it into like.
Speaker 3: A thing because Justice League had like cinematic Yeah, like
Speaker 3: you'd be like huge songs.
Speaker 1: Sound like a fucking like a movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a soundtrack.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like That's why I always say Ross always got
Speaker 1: the best beat.
Speaker 3: Oh I still listen to it today.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: Like Ross's ear for beats is like a fucking up
Speaker 3: there man all time.
Speaker 2: That's another That's another person I would love to work with,
Speaker 2: like on some whole project or just locked and ship
Speaker 2: Like I love Ross.
Speaker 3: Do you ever go on YouTube and type in your
Speaker 3: name type beats? Never have you ever had anything like
Speaker 3: where you've heard your ship like, because there's actual fucking
Speaker 3: fake metro booming beats out there, like with THEA on
Speaker 3: it and everything.
Speaker 1: Are there people bootlegging your beats?
Speaker 4: Of course?
Speaker 3: You know that happened, like where you're like someone will
Speaker 3: hit you up, like, yo, we have a song together.
Speaker 1: You'd be like, I didn't make.
Speaker 2: That beat, bro, this should pop up on my on
Speaker 2: my Spotify, you know what I mean. And it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, Turbo produced this and this. I've never heard
Speaker 2: of this guy or this song, you know, like however
Speaker 2: you do when you plug in the songs. I don't
Speaker 2: know how they do it, but yeah, that happens all
Speaker 2: the time. And people call me and say, yeah, I
Speaker 2: got this pack from such and such from you.
Speaker 3: Uh, and I don't know if it's real or.
Speaker 4: Not, you know what I mean. And it's like, well,
Speaker 4: you got to pack from who?
Speaker 1: So if it pops up on your Spotify, how do
Speaker 1: you take care of that? You just you just have
Speaker 1: a call ag Hey, call Spotify. Get this shit taken down?
Speaker 4: Do you think you know what I'm saying this?
Speaker 3: It ain't right because I was talking I was talking
Speaker 3: to the South side, and I was like, bro, do
Speaker 3: you know how many struggle rappers in my life for
Speaker 3: the last ten to twelve years have come to me
Speaker 3: and said that they got eight Away Mafia beats dogs? Oh?
Speaker 3: And he was like, I know, because the thing about
Speaker 3: the eight Away Mafia is there's like a lot of
Speaker 3: affiliates and the take that tag and then dog like, Bro,
Speaker 3: I got the tag.
Speaker 1: Everybody know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Everybody has a tag like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This was a thing in a producer community.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, yo, who you got on the app? Man?
Speaker 3: We got eight Away made away right right? And be cushking.
Speaker 1: That shit's so funny.
Speaker 3: I should frustrate the hell out of me because you
Speaker 3: got such an iconic tag.
Speaker 1: Like, man, you just can't put that shit on anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just But I mean, like like I said,
Speaker 2: it's not always about the tag because you also know
Speaker 2: when you when you hear Bachelor, it's like his first
Speaker 2: five seconds.
Speaker 3: As soon as it comes on, you're like, what is this?
Speaker 3: Who is this?
Speaker 2: So I always try to get that wow factor. It's
Speaker 2: not that then it's not a turbo beat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What was it like being in the studio with Savage
Speaker 3: and Metro Boom and working like just recording that project. Bro,
Speaker 3: Metro is a dog. Bro, he been a dog, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Since and you're just like forever
Speaker 3: running pro tools the whole time.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, that shits so far.
Speaker 2: I'm telling him, like I got beats, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like, but you know they ain't really he
Speaker 2: was out. He wasn't really listening at that time. But
Speaker 2: just to see on work and see how it went
Speaker 2: like it was dope. And then see the success that
Speaker 2: came from it, that was super dope. Just to watch
Speaker 2: the whole process. But yeah, I think it's like a
Speaker 2: Vice show that came out, like Welcome to Atlanta or
Speaker 2: Atlanta Music or something.
Speaker 1: I remember that I watched that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they went and saw the Migos tutoring
Speaker 3: that time when they was when it was doing the
Speaker 3: Savage sessions.
Speaker 4: I was in all of those, just sitting in the back.
Speaker 2: So it's for me at that time, it was like
Speaker 2: being able to see it at like one of the
Speaker 2: highest levels on some modern shit, not on some like
Speaker 2: you know, old school, old school shit, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So it was it was definitely dope. It
Speaker 2: definitely helped me change the way I thought about things,
Speaker 2: and like how much time and energy I was gonna
Speaker 2: put into it?
Speaker 4: And you know, I just took that and ran with it.
Speaker 3: How inspiring is it for you to be someone who's
Speaker 3: working on your debut album as a producer and then
Speaker 3: you see metro boom and put out heroes and villains
Speaker 3: and it's like, to me, the best version of that
Speaker 3: that's ever been done ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Don't think any compilation album a shout out to Calend.
Speaker 1: I love Calend, shout to everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody who's ever done that has ever done it
Speaker 3: even close to that, to that level. Yeah, it's cohesive.
Speaker 3: It's just it's like a perfect album.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, and and to be able to watch it first
Speaker 2: hand and see how much time he put into it.
Speaker 3: And you feel that when you hear it, you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: this wasn't just like let me just get the hottest motherfuckers,
Speaker 3: throw them all together, nah and put out a project. No,
Speaker 3: this felt like blood sweating tears right right right right.
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's I can speak for every producer
Speaker 3: out there, it's like super inspirational It's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons why I'm not getting frustrated with my album.
Speaker 4: And continuing to do it. But trust the process. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I watched him like do this for two or three years,
Speaker 2: and then when it came out, it was like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: this is what you was doing all this time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it's amazing bodywork. Hopefully get you said springtime drop
Speaker 3: more music?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like once it starts getting like March, sometimes
Speaker 2: we're gonna drop the next single and just see how
Speaker 2: it feels about the album. But I'm working on so
Speaker 2: many projects right now. I'm not in a super rush.
Speaker 3: How close is the roddy shit from being done? I
Speaker 3: don't know if you want me to announce it with
Speaker 3: it's coming though. It's coming like a freight train. Okay, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: It's hardest fun, you know what I'm saying, Like for
Speaker 2: lack of a bitter terms. So yeah, I'm excited about
Speaker 2: that for real and just to see him go up
Speaker 2: for real.
Speaker 1: For sure me too.
Speaker 3: Man. Well, look, I appreciate you pulling up go stream
Speaker 3: your single Bachelor It's out now, I mean shit, man,
Speaker 3: congrats on all success.
Speaker 1: Thank you, bro, my guy Turbo Bo Fire