Speaker 1: What's that at the bed?
Speaker 2: It's spooky, Hey jooky.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm goosted.
Speaker 1: I us mondays, Hey boo, it's me Roz. I am
Speaker 1: joined by two guests today. Oh. I love it so
Speaker 1: much when it works out to have two guests, two
Speaker 1: hilarious comedians Shelby and EJ, who are from a podcast
Speaker 1: called Keeping Records, which I listen to, and I just
Speaker 1: find them both otherworldly hilarious and you'll see what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. So I'll do a just a quick little
Speaker 1: intro here. We'll get right into wet z Always, Patreon
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Speaker 1: where I do weekly episodes by myself and videos, and yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just do it here. I am talking to EJ
Speaker 1: Marcus and Shelby Wolsting and with the show. I'm joined
Speaker 1: by EJ and Shelby from Keeping Records, the podcast, which
Speaker 1: is kind of paranormal, like a little bit.
Speaker 3: A little bit I think so aliens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it involves well, explain the concept.
Speaker 3: Totally. Test. The concept is that we bring people on
Speaker 3: to choose what they would put on their golden record
Speaker 3: to show to the aliens about humankind.
Speaker 1: What is this Golden records business.
Speaker 2: So in nineteen seventy seven, NASA sent to Golden records
Speaker 2: into space and they were like solid gold records with
Speaker 2: like a diagram to be like this is how you
Speaker 2: play this. The diagram does not make sense to me.
Speaker 2: I've looked at it. I'm human, and I'm like, couldn't
Speaker 2: figure this out. I think to say, I'm really defending,
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I am human.
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask like I want to be
Speaker 1: a human human.
Speaker 3: I'm like big human, like I'm a human.
Speaker 2: Lady Doth protests too much, but they like it does
Speaker 2: the diagram. I'm jury still out and if I think
Speaker 2: the aliens would ever be able to figure out how
Speaker 2: to play this, but I guess they might be smart.
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 2: But they have like images and sounds that are supposed
Speaker 2: to give an idea of like who we are and
Speaker 2: what we're like. And it's pretty it's like a pretty
Speaker 2: good encapsulation, but it's just how dated, like it's nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy seven, so it's like you know, but there's no
Speaker 2: mention of like war on there, Like it's very like clean.
Speaker 2: It's like, we're nice down here.
Speaker 1: We want to show you. It's like social media, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, the highlight.
Speaker 2: Reel, yeah yeah, it's the Earth's Instagram.
Speaker 1: But do they give them a record player?
Speaker 2: It's yeah, that's what the diagree is. It's like, here's this,
Speaker 2: but it's not just like a record because it has
Speaker 2: images on it. Again, I couldn't figure out how to
Speaker 2: play it. If they were to give it to.
Speaker 3: Me right now, I wouldn't be able to figure it out.
Speaker 2: So I like that we're sort of giving them that test.
Speaker 1: So your podcast is people say what they would put
Speaker 1: on their records they were to send it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we were making new ones, like if we
Speaker 2: were like, okay, let's update this thing, which they was
Speaker 2: a project NASA was about to do and then they
Speaker 2: scrapped it. Big mistake. They said people wouldn't be interested.
Speaker 3: I'm like, people are definitely interested.
Speaker 1: Do you guys actually believe in aliens?
Speaker 3: I think somebody's out there where far?
Speaker 2: Have you seen the picture of the universe. It's so
Speaker 2: big if nothing else.
Speaker 1: Is there is one thing about it's so big.
Speaker 2: My thing is it can't be that big and have
Speaker 2: nothing else. We can't be the only planet.
Speaker 3: That was like, yeah, that'll be too random.
Speaker 2: This is where they are?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 3: Okaycial, Yeah, it's just that that's a really good point.
Speaker 2: Actually, I think someone has to be somewhere. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're smart, like everyone's like intelligent life.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you.
Speaker 2: Could be literally, like, why are we so sure that
Speaker 2: they're smart?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: That's my whole thing.
Speaker 2: They could be literal like just like bacteria. That would
Speaker 2: be life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah right, and could be a fish planet.
Speaker 1: I think that they are smarter than us because they
Speaker 1: can like do things that we can't do. They can
Speaker 1: look at us, but we can't look at them.
Speaker 3: You don't know that.
Speaker 2: You don't know if they see us yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, then what are UFOs?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Solid point balloon Boy was one of them.
Speaker 3: That was one, Yeah, the first balloon boy.
Speaker 1: Balloon Boy. It was technically an unidentified flying object in
Speaker 1: the sky that turned out to be a little boy
Speaker 1: inside of a balloon.
Speaker 3: What a day that was.
Speaker 1: I think that aliens live in the ocean. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm at right now.
Speaker 3: They're speaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is usually.
Speaker 3: Where I feel like a lot of our conversations end
Speaker 3: up too, is like Octopi Octopi deep sea stuff looks
Speaker 3: like it's not on the same planet because it's really not.
Speaker 3: Like the bottom of the ocean is nothing like where
Speaker 3: we're sitting right now.
Speaker 2: No, like we've never been there, and it's like, are
Speaker 2: we sure they've never.
Speaker 3: Been They've never been all the way down there.
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever seen this movie with Mandy Moore
Speaker 1: where she goes like shark like when those people go
Speaker 1: in a cage to look at sharks.
Speaker 3: No, but it's.
Speaker 1: One of these scarier movies I've ever seen, really, So
Speaker 1: she goes on vacation with her sister and they go
Speaker 1: in when those cages and the fucking chord snaps and
Speaker 1: they end up down at the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 2: Religion, Actually, chords have to stay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the chords can't snap.
Speaker 1: I would never go in a cage with sharks, but
Speaker 1: they so they do that, and then the cord snaps
Speaker 1: and then they have like an hour on their oxygen
Speaker 1: tanks and they have to figure out how to get
Speaker 1: out of this page at the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 3: And are the sharks likes.
Speaker 2: Warm, yes, because they usually have food in them because
Speaker 2: that's they try and get them to come.
Speaker 1: It's so scary. It's called I think it's called like
Speaker 1: forty seven meters down.
Speaker 2: Twenty seven hours, forty seven meters something like that. All
Speaker 2: of the really anxiety and doucing ones are like, this
Speaker 2: is how much time and space there is?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: So how you guys know, Well, don't spoil it?
Speaker 1: So true.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 1: Can you guys tell me, like any paranormal stories you
Speaker 1: might have. Well, first of all, we're so we know
Speaker 1: what you think about aliens? What do you guys think
Speaker 1: about like ghosts and just general?
Speaker 2: I believe in them. I have a healthy respect for them,
Speaker 2: and for that reason, I do think that they mostly
Speaker 2: leave me alone because I'm like, listen, I'm hearing I
Speaker 2: come in piece, you are the superior?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay to me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I definitely think that there they are here
Speaker 2: because things get weird. Things you hear too much for
Speaker 2: it to be fake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of it's kind of like with
Speaker 3: the alien thing. It's like I'm like, it does kind
Speaker 3: of just make sense, Like we don't know enough to
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, once you're dead, you're gone forever in
Speaker 3: this world that we are in Like, I just feel
Speaker 3: like it makes sense for someone to be lingering around.
Speaker 3: Let the record show that doesn't believe in death.
Speaker 2: Quote death like finger quote dead.
Speaker 3: If I've never wanted so, I don't really know, but.
Speaker 1: I mean, in a way, if you believe in that,
Speaker 1: then like you are still a lot, Like your physical
Speaker 1: body is not alive, but you're still alive.
Speaker 3: There's Yeah, they're like, I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 3: there's enough. Where does all the energy go? Where does
Speaker 3: it go? Because I feel like there's some of the ocean.
Speaker 2: Yeah with the aliens, whoa fuck?
Speaker 1: Fun?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: It's just like I don't know. There's just a lot
Speaker 3: that we don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like weird things also had, like the story I
Speaker 2: have a friend that passed away and the night that
Speaker 2: she died. Her parents were divorced, live in separate homes,
Speaker 2: as most divorced couples do, and the night that she
Speaker 2: she died in her sleep, and the front window in
Speaker 2: both of their houses shattered the night she died, which.
Speaker 1: I'm like, perhaps and nobody threw something.
Speaker 2: Nobody threw something like and they're completely different, like neighborhoods,
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like they were next door to each other,
Speaker 2: and just like a gust of little wind. It was
Speaker 2: just like two windows, two separate houses, both of her
Speaker 2: parents shattered same night.
Speaker 1: Okay, and that I've told the story before, but I'll
Speaker 1: tell it again. A family member at mine died in
Speaker 1: a car accident. And when it happened, my windshield shattered
Speaker 1: in my garage and there was nothing above it, not
Speaker 1: like a rock, not no wow. And I lived in
Speaker 1: an apartment building at the time, and I called the
Speaker 1: security and they were like, there's literally nothing in here.
Speaker 1: There's no reason it should like they were literally like,
Speaker 1: what did you do to someone? Because there's someone's like
Speaker 1: to get you because it's just like shat, Like it
Speaker 1: looked like something like a bowling ball got thrown at
Speaker 1: it or something that is crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My also, like I that's the thing is like I
Speaker 2: have a lot of like weird signs, Like things like
Speaker 2: that are like my sister when my dad died, my
Speaker 2: sister like went onto some medium's instagram that was like
Speaker 2: a quick flip of like a bunch of images and
Speaker 2: it was like screenshot this and whatever image you land
Speaker 2: on is like the sign you're looking for from your
Speaker 2: loved one. And my sister got a platypus and was like, okay, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: like I'm I gonna see a platypus, Like it sucks.
Speaker 2: If I got like a B, I could maybe see
Speaker 2: a B. Right, she got a platypus, and then she
Speaker 2: was scrolling on LinkedIn and A companies used the exact
Speaker 2: image of the exact platypus as part of their advertisement
Speaker 2: for what for, like something I had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with platypuses, Plata pie plata pussies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of pussies are like those are
Speaker 1: like aliens. It's like they're furry, weird.
Speaker 3: They're pokemon it very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there there's a pair of the platypuses and
Speaker 2: what phineas and ferb oh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch it. I just know that I didn't
Speaker 3: watch it.
Speaker 2: But the exact same image that, like the stock image
Speaker 2: of the plan was that they used, like someone else
Speaker 2: used to be like that is so strange, our like
Speaker 2: some weird update.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's strange.
Speaker 2: And then I got frogs and was feeling really like
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to see a frog unless they like
Speaker 2: went to Echo Park Lake, which would feel like sourcing.
Speaker 3: A frog, which you feel like that doesn't count.
Speaker 2: And then I saw a bunch of like spray paint
Speaker 2: somewhere and I said, frogs like all over on this
Speaker 2: one building, and I was like, okay, well, yeah, frogs.
Speaker 3: I think you have to be open to these experiences too,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like people who are like, no, no
Speaker 3: paranormal stuff. Ever, it's like, yeah, well they're not looking.
Speaker 3: They're not opening their minds up to the possibility.
Speaker 1: Of the I think about that a lot, Like people
Speaker 1: say you have to be open to it for it
Speaker 1: to happen, and I wonder if it's you have to
Speaker 1: be open to the idea of it to be able
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that it's something paranormal, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise you can explain it away by being like wind.
Speaker 1: Like, I think that stuff will happen no matter what,
Speaker 1: whether you believe in it or not. It's just a
Speaker 1: matter of if you think it if you like choose
Speaker 1: to acknowledge it as a ghost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think sometimes not thinking it's a ghost is
Speaker 2: the scarier option. Like people will be like like my
Speaker 2: girlfriend's best friend right now has like stuff going on
Speaker 2: in his partment, where like things are showing up in
Speaker 2: different places than he left them, and he's believing that
Speaker 2: someone's entering his home without his knowledge, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's a ghost, and that's so much less scary to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: someone entering your home without you knowing way.
Speaker 1: Scarier than and they're not taking anything, They're.
Speaker 2: Just around and like, yeah, things are being found in
Speaker 2: weird Like he found his sunglasses in a bowl in
Speaker 2: his sink, and he was like, what would he be?
Speaker 1: I one time I saw in a documentary that the
Speaker 1: Manson family used to do that they would go into
Speaker 1: people's houses and rearrange other furniture and then leave.
Speaker 3: That is I just chill?
Speaker 2: Isn't that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The first Manson?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wow, that I would I don't know what I
Speaker 3: would do. Well, at first, I'd be impressed because I've
Speaker 3: been trying to figure out a way to move my
Speaker 3: furniture in a way that makes sense and I just can't.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm like, someone just robbed me, so I can
Speaker 2: Marie Coondo already take it?
Speaker 1: Like why am I put this on Facebook? Marketplace?
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm sometimes like this.
Speaker 2: The least scary option is to be like it's a spirit,
Speaker 2: because if it's someone worse to me.
Speaker 3: Because if it's a spirit, it's definitely scary because you're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not alone, per se.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: You are not alone.
Speaker 1: Wait what is that?
Speaker 3: Oh? That one too? Yeah, there are giants in the sky.
Speaker 1: So good do you believe that there are giants in
Speaker 1: the sky.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely where I draw the line. A lot of
Speaker 2: a story that is so not mine and I don't
Speaker 2: even remember the details.
Speaker 3: But it is the scar.
Speaker 2: Okay, pretended you will if you're listening, correct me, Will Smith? Yes,
Speaker 2: Will Smith, you're listening. No, My friend Will He used
Speaker 2: to be an m T. And he they got a
Speaker 2: call to go like from like an emergency call as
Speaker 2: AMTS received that was like I'm locked in a basement,
Speaker 2: like a call being like I just got a hold
Speaker 2: of like you have to come help me whatever her
Speaker 2: and like hung up, gave the address whatever, And they
Speaker 2: got to the basement and there was nobody there, and
Speaker 2: there hadn't been anyone there in like a long long time,
Speaker 2: and they like did a bunch of research because they
Speaker 2: were like this is so weird. Like it wasn't like
Speaker 2: there was no hidden passage, there was there was no
Speaker 2: budded in the house at all, and then there was
Speaker 2: like someone that was trapped there like ages ago, how
Speaker 2: many ages? A long time, and that they think either
Speaker 2: like it's a weird thing with the phone, that it
Speaker 2: like came through really late, or that it was like
Speaker 2: some weird like supernatural somehow she was calling out from
Speaker 2: like the spiritual realm.
Speaker 1: Was it like from a landline from that house?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like where they tracked it to. Is so creepy.
Speaker 2: He told that story once at like a like a
Speaker 2: haunted show, and I was like, yeah, so I couldn't
Speaker 2: talk to him for a little while. Ye, scaris things
Speaker 2: I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. I have a story for
Speaker 1: you guys that this actually involves something similar to that
Speaker 1: and involves some phone calls. So I want to tell
Speaker 1: you about this story that I researched. It goes by
Speaker 1: I think it's most commonly known as the Rosenheim Poltergeist,
Speaker 1: and it took place in nineteen sixty seven in Rosenheim,
Speaker 1: which is in southern Bavaria. And this is a workplace haunting,
Speaker 1: which we don't get a lot of around here.
Speaker 2: So because people usually are like finally I can leave
Speaker 2: work yeah, yeah, well, yeah, people don't love their jobs
Speaker 2: like they used to.
Speaker 1: Just wait, just wait. So this was at a law office,
Speaker 1: the law offices of Sigmund Adam. Okay, so they're just
Speaker 1: doing their you know, law stuff. Everything's fine, and then
Speaker 1: one day phones start ringing like crazy. All the time
Speaker 1: they pick it up. There's no one there. Sometimes they'd
Speaker 1: just like ring a couple times and then it would
Speaker 1: just like stop, and then it was getting Uh it
Speaker 1: was getting in the way of people that were trying
Speaker 1: to call because they're like, I need a lawyer, and
Speaker 1: like the lines were always busy. So they call REPAIRMN
Speaker 1: for telephones and they're like, we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: And they were also over six hundred phone calls a day.
Speaker 1: We're going out of the office, like on their phone bill,
Speaker 1: Like their phone bill was going up. So apparently it
Speaker 1: was making six phone calls per minute, which wasn't even
Speaker 1: like possible. I guess with the technology. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So it's a different time, different time. So, uh, pictures
Speaker 1: and furniture would be moved around the office the developing
Speaker 1: fluid and the copy machine started leaking out. Lights would
Speaker 1: swing around.
Speaker 2: Leaking really gets me, Yeah, I was like, oh, it's.
Speaker 1: Using oozing leaking. Yeah. So they had like fluorescent light
Speaker 1: tubes that would explode or they would come unscrewed and
Speaker 1: the lights would turn off and on on their own.
Speaker 1: They called some physicists, they called electricians, they called policemen.
Speaker 1: All these stories are always like we called the police
Speaker 1: and the police couldn't figure it out. Of course not
Speaker 1: they do.
Speaker 2: The police are like, this light bulb is under arrest.
Speaker 1: That machines you can leak all over a jail cell.
Speaker 1: So the lawyer got his own generator for all because
Speaker 1: of all these electric electric problems, and he put he
Speaker 1: installed some regular light bulbs. It was still happening, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't because of the electricity. Also, allegedly this only
Speaker 1: happened during office hours, like on the weekends and stuff.
Speaker 1: It wasn't happening, so like, what's going on. Finally, this
Speaker 1: man named Hans Bender, who's a professor from the Freiburg
Speaker 1: Institute for the Study of Parapsychology. He comes over and
Speaker 1: he is going around the office. He's like, who, well,
Speaker 1: why is this happening. He thinks it's a Poulter guys.
Speaker 1: He thinks it's centered around one person. He thinks it's
Speaker 1: a young person because his belief is that young people
Speaker 1: have their energy, can cause stuff like this, and he
Speaker 1: pinned white technology better with technology, Yeah.
Speaker 3: So people wouldn't be able figure this out.
Speaker 1: He decides. It's this eighteen or nineteen. Some reports say
Speaker 1: year old employee named Anne Marie, and she would walk
Speaker 1: down the hallways and the lights would sway back and
Speaker 1: forth like as she was walking, and he thinks that
Speaker 1: it was because she hated working in this office. She
Speaker 1: like admittedly hated it. She's like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be here at all, queen. And I know I kind
Speaker 1: of love I. Con so, he says, because a combination
Speaker 1: of her bad energy. She you know, had kind of
Speaker 1: a chaotic personal life, and she sounds awesome. I know,
Speaker 1: I kind of love her. Actually, I found this picture
Speaker 1: of her from one of.
Speaker 3: The in my head, she's hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah literally wow. Wait, never mind this picture of this.
Speaker 3: Picture she was nineteen.
Speaker 2: Never mind, in my head, she's sweet.
Speaker 1: This is kind of a blurry picture, but that's her,
Speaker 1: Like as the lights are going off during one of
Speaker 1: these investigations.
Speaker 3: WHOA, I love her.
Speaker 1: I think she does look nineteen, she says, nineteen sixty seven, nineteen,
Speaker 1: I think it was different thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's nineteen going on thirty. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I'm just like picturing her. She's like constantly on the phone,
Speaker 1: just like like I think that she was actually just
Speaker 1: making phone calls all day, Yeah, on her phone call,
Speaker 1: calling her. Yeah, totally, it's like calling her friends. I
Speaker 1: fucking hate this law office. What even is? I don't
Speaker 1: even know what is going on here. Literally, they're all
Speaker 1: like way older. They wouldn't it be funny if I
Speaker 1: just made the copy machine leak. So apparently what they
Speaker 1: decided was it only happened all this stuff when she
Speaker 1: was there, So they're like it's definitely because of her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So a heavy filing cabinet moved from
Speaker 1: the wall at one point on its own, and there
Speaker 1: were no scrapes on the linoleum, so I don't know
Speaker 1: if it like lifted up or some versions of the
Speaker 1: story say that she went on leave. I heard a
Speaker 1: couple of different stories. The details are a little hazy
Speaker 1: on this one, but she either went on leave because
Speaker 1: they like gave her paid leave, like let's just see
Speaker 1: what would happen and it all stopped and then she
Speaker 1: comes back and then the lights are just like it's
Speaker 1: a rave, you know, like as soon as she walks
Speaker 1: back in.
Speaker 2: I would feel so powerful, I know.
Speaker 1: Don't with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm talking in the office, bitch, turn it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah you missed me. Yeah, like you said, I can't
Speaker 1: have Friday off.
Speaker 2: All right, we're all getting out of here today.
Speaker 1: I'm going home early, shuts down the I have a
Speaker 1: party tonight. We're going out. So she again, I don't
Speaker 1: know the exact details, but whatever, whatever happened, she was
Speaker 1: either fired or she quit, which this is like an
Speaker 1: HR nightmare first of all.
Speaker 2: Either way, it's like I was victimized in this office.
Speaker 2: I was I picked my d villainized. I became the problem.
Speaker 2: So I want to leave, pay her out or she's fired,
Speaker 2: and it's like what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do like you can't go to HR
Speaker 1: and be like, so we want to fire this girl?
Speaker 3: Why because spirits love like garrets are obsessed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's part goes like, that's not you can't fire
Speaker 1: people for that.
Speaker 2: Her energy.
Speaker 1: It's just like literally, her energy is fucking up our office.
Speaker 1: So whatever happened, she stopped working there, and then it
Speaker 1: all stopped in the office so Sign's point to it
Speaker 1: was her. I believe that there's some skeptics that I
Speaker 1: have reason to believe that she was just somehow maneuvering
Speaker 1: the lights and like figuring out a way just to.
Speaker 3: Fuck with like maybe either way that makes her powerful.
Speaker 1: It just yeah, exactly all the time, and to be
Speaker 1: like it's ghosts ghost ghosts. Yeah, well, a lot of
Speaker 1: this kind of ship I think was easier to get
Speaker 1: away with before. I just think that people are like
Speaker 1: they know more now. I don't know, but if like
Speaker 1: if she was a magician, for example, like if she
Speaker 1: knew how to like do things like okay, if this
Speaker 1: was the year like sixteen hundred and you were doing
Speaker 1: this one where you're like, I'm pulling up my finger,
Speaker 1: people would be like, that's magic and then you put
Speaker 1: it back again.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you would burned alive.
Speaker 3: Well, especially they were just like women, weird stuff going
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 1: She might have just figured it out, like this is
Speaker 1: the best way to get out of work. I'm actually
Speaker 1: so jealous.
Speaker 2: She was like, God, if you guys can't get your
Speaker 2: work done, I guess I can head home for a while.
Speaker 2: I have to pay my rent still, but I want
Speaker 2: you like, I love you guys, and I want you guys.
Speaker 2: I want to work, so like I can head on home.
Speaker 2: But oh am, I gonna pay for this.
Speaker 3: It is almost the first. But I mean, I gone, yeah,
Speaker 3: she's incredible.
Speaker 1: She's an icon. Apparently nineteen sixty nine she got married
Speaker 1: and she moved to the outskirts of town and she
Speaker 1: had some children, and once she had this stable life,
Speaker 1: it all kind of stopped.
Speaker 2: She just she was in the country. They didn't have
Speaker 2: lights anymore.
Speaker 1: That could be too So that's the story of the
Speaker 1: Rosenheim Poulter guys.
Speaker 3: So, and a poultergeist is just like a really feisty ghost.
Speaker 1: It's it's usually yeah, I mean, it's usually not just
Speaker 1: like seeing a ghost like, it's more so referring to
Speaker 1: a physical energy manifestation that's just like throwing shit around
Speaker 1: and opening cabinets like doing all that.
Speaker 3: Kind Maybe it's a more destructive, yeah kind of.
Speaker 2: I think, No matter what, my feeling on this specific
Speaker 2: poltergeist is that this is this woman deserves a holiday
Speaker 2: in the in the workplace, like a day off, like
Speaker 2: labor day kind of day where we're just like, this
Speaker 2: is the day that we don't work because she didn't.
Speaker 3: Want us to. Yeah, right, she should be a religious
Speaker 3: figure and maybe we can celebrate by like, yeah, making
Speaker 3: the lights go crazy. Sah A printer in totally.
Speaker 1: I feel like if there's any eighteen nineteen year olds listening, actually,
Speaker 1: anyone of any age listening to this, end articles about this,
Speaker 1: or send this episode to your boss and just be like,
Speaker 1: don't fuck with me, or I'll go Anne Marie on your.
Speaker 3: Ass, don't fuck with me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make the zooms go crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, a modern day Anne Marie. What would
Speaker 3: that look like? M why in the office, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you that much.
Speaker 1: Well, you guys want to hear about haunted dolls?
Speaker 3: Yeah I do, She'll be.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm afraid of it, but I am excited
Speaker 2: to hear.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm obsessed with this. There's this whole thing
Speaker 1: people on eBay just like sell haunted dolls. There's like
Speaker 1: hundreds of them at a time.
Speaker 3: People are sick.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed because not only do they have like pictures
Speaker 1: of them, they have like actual profiles and like telling
Speaker 1: you have you seen this before?
Speaker 3: No, I'm just assuming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I know how.
Speaker 2: Ghost people are. Yehost people are letting you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're giving you all the details.
Speaker 1: Yes they are. So I'll give you guys a choice
Speaker 1: this time. There's I found two different ones. Just do
Speaker 1: one of them. Do you want an evil doll or
Speaker 1: a sexual doll?
Speaker 3: Up to you? Sexual?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Now one question? Maybe evil?
Speaker 1: Okay? What sure?
Speaker 3: What you want?
Speaker 1: It's up to you, guys. I don't want to like
Speaker 1: make you uncomfortable because this one has a sex demon
Speaker 1: attached to it, a.
Speaker 3: Sex demon, like I feel like that's interesting. I'm interested
Speaker 3: in the sex demon.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll read you this real this real ad I
Speaker 1: found last night. So this is.
Speaker 2: A doll being a sex doll, like like a blow up.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not that. This is like it's even
Speaker 1: she's haunted.
Speaker 2: She's just.
Speaker 3: Crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the the doll. I don't know what
Speaker 1: is it from a movie or something.
Speaker 2: It looks like it must be, but it honestly looks
Speaker 2: like more handsome Ghustan.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is. I feel like you can get away
Speaker 1: with this at the Renaissance Fair.
Speaker 3: It's the puffy sleeves. What movie am I thinking of?
Speaker 3: The double bell thing?
Speaker 1: Oh it's a bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a like where you put arrows, like
Speaker 2: a like a crossbody.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like an arrow backpack. Yeah, arrow purse.
Speaker 2: There's a purse for your arrows.
Speaker 3: Clutch.
Speaker 2: It seems like he's going to fight something.
Speaker 1: Well he's according to this ad, he's not about to
Speaker 1: fight them. He's about to do something else. This is Tilta.
Speaker 3: His name Tilta, Tilta, Tilta.
Speaker 1: Tilta's currently got one bid on them and it is
Speaker 1: one hundred and four dollars for Tilta. So if anyone
Speaker 1: listening is interested in Tilta, it says Tilta is the
Speaker 1: sexual demonic sp that is wanting to find someone who
Speaker 1: is highly charged like him. Tilta is happy to share you.
Speaker 1: He is looking for fun with you and others with you.
Speaker 1: Tilta shows himself to you in the dark of the night. No,
Speaker 1: he is a stocky man that will be naked. He
Speaker 1: has three pieces and he certainly knows how to use them,
Speaker 1: all three, all three of them same time. His tongue
Speaker 1: is long and it'll circle his body with you. He
Speaker 1: doesn't care if you're a man or a woman. Tilta
Speaker 1: is known down to knock on your bedroom door or
Speaker 1: the door of your room where you sleep and let
Speaker 1: you know he is coming in. He is quite polite. Really,
Speaker 1: Visions and dreams of him is common. When you wake up,
Speaker 1: you will feel that he has been with you. Light
Speaker 1: a candle to welcome him to your home. This is
Speaker 1: a bonding PROPLEM says he's plastic. He may come with
Speaker 1: some wear due to age and use. These spirits will
Speaker 1: need time to see you and know what you are about.
Speaker 1: Please be patient with him. This is what we have
Speaker 1: found out about these spirits. As your relationship grows, you
Speaker 1: will find out more information. You will learn each other's
Speaker 1: likes and dislikes. Like all relationships, tilta.
Speaker 2: If I spend one hundred and four dollars on a
Speaker 2: sex demon doll and he didn't want to fuck me,
Speaker 2: I would kill.
Speaker 1: Myself and one of them.
Speaker 2: He's gonna knock on your door. He does not care
Speaker 2: if you're a man or a woman. He literally just
Speaker 2: wants to be with you. If I never heard from
Speaker 2: this man, I kill myself.
Speaker 1: Sad thing is like the chances of that happening, that
Speaker 1: someone would buy this toy hoping for that and nothing happens.
Speaker 2: It's very high and it's not a cheap, like I
Speaker 2: would literally be like I would go to my therapist
Speaker 2: to be like, well the sex doll doesn't want me.
Speaker 3: Well, Tilta rejected me again.
Speaker 2: So it has three penis, says none of them are
Speaker 2: coming near me. Oh my god, I love the concept
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Til.
Speaker 3: I like that. Visit it. He's plastic, like.
Speaker 2: This is a bonding experience. He's blastic.
Speaker 1: Well, because I'm sure you gathered. But like the concept
Speaker 1: of these dolls that people sell is like that's the toy.
Speaker 1: There's something attached to it. So it's like they're two
Speaker 1: different things kind of.
Speaker 2: But this is a stocky man.
Speaker 1: A naked, stacking man with three penis, and his tongue
Speaker 1: is long enough that it will circle your body. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm somehow did oh did I keep that one out?
Speaker 3: I think you said it, but I just couldn't process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a lot? I don't This is a lot
Speaker 1: to take long enough.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a riddle that I can.
Speaker 1: Circle your body. But he's very polite. He's very polite.
Speaker 2: It says, tongue nowhere he knocks, he knocks. You're like
Speaker 2: a candle to let him in. Yeah, do you have
Speaker 2: any fear, and you can say no that this person
Speaker 2: that's advertising this is just like all right, whoever wants
Speaker 2: this wants to get sucked by it's he is tilta
Speaker 2: and they're like, well, you wanted to edit fucked by
Speaker 2: the big document three penises. Yes, here I am shows
Speaker 2: up at that gets the shipping address.
Speaker 1: Gets the shipping address, and then I never thought of that.
Speaker 2: If you're selling these sectionals, don't do this.
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if it's like, can only ship local like.
Speaker 2: Us only yeah, will deliver.
Speaker 1: We'll deliver by hand and then wait outside your home
Speaker 1: until you're.
Speaker 3: Sleep, until you light a candle.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to be true.
Speaker 3: It's just something that could.
Speaker 1: No, it's a good idea.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of a movie idea.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, now, I want to look at the
Speaker 1: other one I have here, because this is the evil one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the biography is on this one.
Speaker 1: Let me see you.
Speaker 3: Sell something on Do you see this shipping address?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's the evil one. She's got like a
Speaker 1: real classic evil doll. Look, lots of lace, kind of
Speaker 1: a wet is it a wedding dress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, either that or what's a Catholic religion? When you're
Speaker 2: a baby, you wear the white dress.
Speaker 1: Baptism, Yeah, and on your communion wear a white dress.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It feels religious the white dress, definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And she's wearing sort of a big head dress. She's
Speaker 2: all dressed up, and she has two curls.
Speaker 1: To blonde ring lips which piece to be honest, she's
Speaker 1: got bangs. Okay, wait, so this is Lily. She's currently
Speaker 1: going for two hundred dollars and this person rises. I
Speaker 1: got her from another paranormal investigator. Oh, I guess this
Speaker 1: person is one. So I got to rum another paranormal investigator.
Speaker 1: And after just a few days here she has to go.
Speaker 1: There is an inhuman spirit in her, and yes it
Speaker 1: is a demon. We call this vessel Lily. Yes, she
Speaker 1: is eighteen inches tall. She's completely handmade. She's soft all over.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: Why do you have to say that?
Speaker 1: I know the former owner could not stand the torment
Speaker 1: that was unleashed. I experienced strange sounds like gurgling, snarling.
Speaker 1: I have been scratched on my arms and face when
Speaker 1: trying to communicate. Things have flown off the shelves as well.
Speaker 1: Enough time for this one to go. You should have
Speaker 1: experience with demonic forces like this before adopting this is
Speaker 1: no playing around. This demon spirit will light up your
Speaker 1: motion balls as well as your EMF good luck. Those
Speaker 1: are like ghost hunting things. So two hundred dollars Lily.
Speaker 3: To be honest, this one, I was like, I want
Speaker 3: to try it.
Speaker 1: You want to try that one?
Speaker 3: Like, I'm a little bit like I this feels like
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe Lily, Like I want to see
Speaker 3: what Lily can do a little bit. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to spend two hundred dollars on her.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a demon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's soft all over.
Speaker 1: This isn't inhuman spirit in her. And yes it's a demon.
Speaker 2: Well, I love that they put their little flare in there.
Speaker 1: She stopped all over this.
Speaker 2: She has got to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could get access to two hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: If you whoa, you get access to it.
Speaker 1: I figure it out, My god, something to think about
Speaker 1: that she's going for. She's not it's like a buy
Speaker 1: it now situation. It's not a it's not a bidding thing.
Speaker 3: So do if you have the money in your account
Speaker 3: Lily could.
Speaker 1: Be yours if I had the two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Yes, that one feels less like someone's coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the thing, is the sex one. I'm like,
Speaker 3: there's that. I can't deal with all that. That's too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 3: But the evil, I mean, you know, the demon pieces
Speaker 3: of her. I am curious, like what I hear gurgling?
Speaker 2: What I get?
Speaker 3: Scratches on my arms?
Speaker 1: Okay, so but what if you did?
Speaker 3: I would be so scared it to someone else?
Speaker 1: Does it work that way?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 3: Or does she live with you now?
Speaker 1: Now she's yours if you can't put.
Speaker 3: Her back in the like a ferbie? Yeah, right, like
Speaker 3: a ferbie.
Speaker 1: Do you guys want to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time.
Speaker 2: For ev.
Speaker 1: Or ev Please have you ever heard the term EVP?
Speaker 3: I feel like I did on that one show called
Speaker 3: a Haunting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: Do you know that show?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's electronic voice phenomena. So it's when ghost hunters
Speaker 1: believe they've captured a ghost speaking obsessed. So what I
Speaker 1: do is I go to YouTube. I look for EVPs
Speaker 1: that people have captured. I'm gonna play it for you,
Speaker 1: and then I want you to tell me what you hear.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: This first one was posted by rating Oaks on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and it is at the Wavery Hills Sanatorium, which is
Speaker 1: a very famous haunted place in the Louisville, Kentucky area.
Speaker 1: And it's a quick one. What is it saying? Okay,
Speaker 1: So there's like some background noise and there's.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it sounds like hello to me or like
Speaker 3: ding dong ding dong. Oh yeah, ding dong.
Speaker 1: Okay, hear ding dong? Okay. They didn't think it was that.
Speaker 1: Oh did they think it was a hey buddy?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 3: There's two syllables, sorry.
Speaker 1: B your trash see evil or d bitch?
Speaker 2: What bitch? What I mean if I want to hear
Speaker 2: any of them, I maybe can, But I actually think
Speaker 2: I hear hey bud more than hey buddy, right evil.
Speaker 2: I couldn't make myself here.
Speaker 1: If I really.
Speaker 2: I hear your trash.
Speaker 3: I mean that would be super cool if that's what
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to think I it always. I always
Speaker 2: forget that ghosts could have died recently and say things
Speaker 2: like your trash.
Speaker 1: Total.
Speaker 2: I always think they have to speak or if they're.
Speaker 1: Like a place like this, there's people constantly coming and
Speaker 1: going in there, like ghost hunting. They could pick something
Speaker 1: up from like they could be the kind of ghost.
Speaker 1: It's like, what is gen Z saying? Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to keep it.
Speaker 2: They're still learning, they're still growing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never forget that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we limit them ghosts.
Speaker 1: Well, they believe it was Hey buddy, Hey buddy, I
Speaker 1: can kind of hear it.
Speaker 3: I can kind of hear it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well here's another one. This one's a little different.
Speaker 1: This was posted by the same person. This time it's
Speaker 1: at the Randolph County Infirmary in Winchester, Indiana. What is
Speaker 1: it saying? Okay, it's like a whist.
Speaker 4: So scary turn around, turn around.
Speaker 2: Or like welcome to the something, Welcome to the.
Speaker 1: Fair, Welcome to the fair. Oh do you kind of
Speaker 1: hear fair? Okay? They don't think it's that.
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Do they think it's a what do you think of
Speaker 1: my hair? B you don't eat that? C? What are
Speaker 1: you doing in there? Or D I'm a demon and
Speaker 1: I have three penis.
Speaker 3: This I think it's the what are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm still dug?
Speaker 3: Can I come in?
Speaker 2: Can I come in?
Speaker 1: That's till duck.
Speaker 3: What are you doing in there? Actually seems like maybe
Speaker 3: that seems the most likely to be as well, so
Speaker 3: they believe it is saying what are you doing in there?
Speaker 1: What are you doing in there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which also is way scarier to any of the
Speaker 2: other options.
Speaker 1: What are you doing there? It's my private place, don't
Speaker 1: go in there.
Speaker 3: The wis.
Speaker 1: What are you doing in there? Okay, let's see one
Speaker 1: last thing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start doing that to people.
Speaker 2: What are you doing that?
Speaker 1: Ti till tilta Swinton. There's gonna be something to do
Speaker 1: that could be a drag queen or something like tilta Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll work on it. Okay, let's I'm just gonna name
Speaker 1: off some things that are like paranormal and I just
Speaker 1: want to hear if you have any thoughts or a
Speaker 1: story or anything. Sure, we already heard about big foot,
Speaker 1: we heard about UFOs, we heard about ghosts. What do
Speaker 1: you think? Okay, going back to tilta, what do you
Speaker 1: think about just like demons, do you think that that's.
Speaker 3: Like a real thing generally deemons? I guess I'm kind
Speaker 3: of like, what is the definition of a demon? Like
Speaker 3: I have an idea like what a demon might be.
Speaker 3: It's like a scary act of ghost my boss, just
Speaker 3: kidding it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think I believe in everything that I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: do I believe in demons? And I'm like, maybe no,
Speaker 2: is that wrong? They're gonna come to me now.
Speaker 1: I believe in you.
Speaker 2: I believe in you, babe. You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Just leave me out of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well really I doubt Yeah, I do in a podcast,
Speaker 3: but I don't believe in them.
Speaker 1: I do, well, I don't know. I think that there's
Speaker 1: like bad energy. I don't know that it's like the
Speaker 1: way it doesn't horror movies.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what I have in my head.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't think that it's real.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's right. I feel like potentially
Speaker 3: there's like spirits or energy that are like frustrated or
Speaker 3: pent up, but like I don't feel like they would
Speaker 3: act like I don't know.
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, I don't know, because uh, Lily
Speaker 2: is a demon demon.
Speaker 1: She's real.
Speaker 2: And if people are like actually, like if the things
Speaker 2: that are happening are happening, then I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess I do believe it, you know, like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think that that didn't happen necessarily when people
Speaker 2: are like things were falling off the lawn like sure,
Speaker 2: that sounds awful. I believe you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, See, I think like a demon is typically
Speaker 1: not was never human, So it's not like a ghost
Speaker 1: in that way. But it's like intelligent, delicious, bad.
Speaker 2: Spirit from down down south, Yeah, down in the ground
Speaker 2: that's come back come up and needs not come back
Speaker 2: come up for the first time, right, yeah, from hell.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I was thinking hell.
Speaker 2: But no, me too, Okay, yeah, no, we believe you. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about astral projection? Do you
Speaker 1: know about that concept?
Speaker 2: That's when that's when you can like move your spirit
Speaker 2: mind by staying physically present.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like your spiritual body like leaves your physical body.
Speaker 2: Who actually, I here's the thing. I think you can
Speaker 2: like imagine going somewhere, right, but I don't think you
Speaker 2: see the things that are happening in real time, which
Speaker 2: I know is like a literal project they worked on
Speaker 2: in the military. Ones was like to say, like we're
Speaker 2: going to train them to astral projects that they can
Speaker 2: go spy. I don't think you would be able to
Speaker 2: know what's happening.
Speaker 3: There if you were physically present.
Speaker 2: Okay, I wish that would.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you live in LA long enough, you're
Speaker 1: going to meet some people that are like, I can
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, and I'm I do it every night.
Speaker 3: I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not even here right now. There's nothing. There's nothing
Speaker 1: in me. I'm off somewhere else. I'm at an audition.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna callback right now. What you see is not
Speaker 1: really me.
Speaker 2: About the callback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like my spiritual mind is there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well what do you think about past lives? Another thing?
Speaker 1: You live in l A Long and you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: about your past lives.
Speaker 3: Like reincarnation or this is something different? Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: it's very like Yeah, I think it's like another word
Speaker 3: line of thinking.
Speaker 1: It's just like you do a lot of them.
Speaker 2: I think past lives are more human to human, and
Speaker 2: reincarnation is sometimes human to something else, could.
Speaker 1: Be a dog.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not the authority. I think we live again.
Speaker 2: We ride, I did, I just don't I I it's
Speaker 2: the same thing you were saying earlier about like well,
Speaker 2: where does the energy go? And I'm like, I guess
Speaker 2: it all recycles in some weird way, right. But also
Speaker 2: if you stop believing in that, if I didn't believe
Speaker 2: in that, then like anything any psychics ever told me
Speaker 2: is a lie which could be true.
Speaker 3: Sure. I also feel like I have enough people in
Speaker 3: my life right now that I feel like from the
Speaker 3: moment we met that we already had some level of
Speaker 3: intimacy like that, there's too many of them to be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: it just connect with people easily. I'm like, no, I
Speaker 3: feel like we did know each other at a different
Speaker 3: point in a different way, right, So I like to
Speaker 3: believe in it on that level.
Speaker 1: Have you guys been to psychics? You been to psychics?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, psychics always tell me that I I don't go
Speaker 2: anymore because every time I've gone, I've been told I'm
Speaker 2: I have the gift and then and then they want
Speaker 2: me to like apprentice, and I'm like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: do that. The gift the gift.
Speaker 1: You get that you have the gifts, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: No, Like no, I think I'm like intuitive, but I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm like psychic, Like I'm not like going
Speaker 2: in being like, yeah, I know, but I think I'm intuitive.
Speaker 3: What about you, Rosy?
Speaker 2: Do you think they're right? Do you think you have
Speaker 2: the gift?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. I just don't think that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not good enough to charge people. I'm not like
Speaker 1: I would have to take a class, and.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that, mister apprentice.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know too much about people. It
Speaker 1: like it truly leaves me out when I know too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I believe in them totally. Ignorance is bliss. Like
Speaker 1: how do you go about your life when you're like
Speaker 1: like all knowing, you know everything a person has ever done,
Speaker 1: and like what they're going to do next week? Like
Speaker 1: I don't want to know that.
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, It's like when people are becoming therapists.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, too much. I can't deal with my own.
Speaker 3: I know, I can't even I've got too many things insidey.
Speaker 2: I when when my dad died, my sister and my
Speaker 2: mom both went to the same medium separately, didn't say
Speaker 2: they knew each other or anything, but both got like
Speaker 2: pretty specific and detailed like things that were independent to
Speaker 2: both of them about my dad that they were like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is legit and for real, like I know. My
Speaker 2: my sister was like she was naming things that like
Speaker 2: like places I was sitting when like Dad was dying.
Speaker 2: She was like naming things that were around me like
Speaker 2: oh wow, which she was like, I don't know how
Speaker 2: she would have It's not like you could have like
Speaker 2: read that something because it was online. So she was like,
Speaker 2: in theory she could have like looked up my name.
Speaker 2: She was like the things she was naming were so
Speaker 2: not anything that would have been found if she googled
Speaker 2: like obituary you know what I mean, Like she if
Speaker 2: she googled a bitchual would be like he died cancer
Speaker 2: and it would be like, yeah, I guess. But it
Speaker 2: was like I hear a lot of wind chimes, and
Speaker 2: my sister was like sitting outside his room where there's
Speaker 2: like a wind time right there. Not on the call,
Speaker 2: but when he was like on hospice.
Speaker 1: Wow damn.
Speaker 2: So like my mom and my sister hardcore believe in mediums. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I am tepid, mostly because I bought from that medium
Speaker 2: and I couldn't get it. I bought like a session
Speaker 2: from that medium and then couldn't get into the session.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, if she's right, then I feel
Speaker 2: like I've been locked out.
Speaker 1: Like a really weird Why couldn't you get in? And
Speaker 1: what do you mean?
Speaker 2: It was like a group thing, so like you had
Speaker 2: to go, like I couldn't message the person and it
Speaker 2: said you needed a password, but there was no password
Speaker 2: given and it said you wouldn't need a password. I'm
Speaker 2: calling my sister like trying to figure out. I was like,
Speaker 2: did you have to do this? She was like literally no,
Speaker 2: And it was like, for whatever reason, the zoom link
Speaker 2: for me just like no way.
Speaker 1: No huh. So did you take that as some kind
Speaker 1: of sign I.
Speaker 3: Didn't offense to it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have to. I was like, Okay, my
Speaker 2: dad literally doesn't want to talk to me. That's fucked
Speaker 2: up in me. And then I kind of decided to
Speaker 2: laugh about it because my dad was like big on Instagram.
Speaker 2: He like, he liked Instagram a lot, and he posted
Speaker 2: for my birthday, which is in June, and then he
Speaker 2: posted for my sister's birthday in July. And when I
Speaker 2: went to his account, I saw that he had deleted
Speaker 2: my birthday post and I had asked him about it,
Speaker 2: and he was like, you didn't post for my birthday,
Speaker 2: and I was like.
Speaker 1: So he took it down.
Speaker 2: He took it down his birthday between hours. Mine is
Speaker 2: the tenth of June, his was the twenty fourth of June.
Speaker 2: My sisters is July twenty second, And so he deleted
Speaker 2: it after his birthday before my sisters, and I was like, honestly,
Speaker 2: it does feel like the kind of petty my dad
Speaker 2: would do just to like lock me out of the
Speaker 2: zoom and then be like by it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm posted by my birthday.
Speaker 2: Ye, Like, you know, if he does it again, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be really mad. But this time I thought it
Speaker 2: was kind of the first time. I decided to take
Speaker 2: it as a joke from him, like as like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't get in here.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think of like synchronicities, Like when
Speaker 1: things happen in life, are you do you go, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a sign, or like hmm, I was meant to
Speaker 1: be here at this time because this happened, or like
Speaker 1: do you have stories like that where something lined up perfectly?
Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely believe, like broadly in I do
Speaker 3: think I believe broadly, and I don't think it's fate,
Speaker 3: but I feel like they're like there's like a path
Speaker 3: that I'm meant to follow kind.
Speaker 1: Of mm hmmm, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weirdly embarrassed. I don't know, I get.
Speaker 3: I feel like I get it's like I don't think
Speaker 3: of myself as like a religious person. But then I
Speaker 3: like start to talk about it, and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: definitely do believe in God, though you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't know so, but I feel like the Yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like there's like some things that are like
Speaker 3: I think about it a lot, specifically with like relationships
Speaker 3: and like my relationships with people and my friends and stuff,
Speaker 3: like I feel like I have people that I was
Speaker 3: very much meant to meet and be in their lives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: I'm maybe more cynical. I think like we will always
Speaker 2: find the things that were meant to find, no matter
Speaker 2: what path you take, Like if you didn't meet those people,
Speaker 2: you would have met other people that you woud feel
Speaker 2: the exact same way.
Speaker 1: About, right that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you find your people and your family in
Speaker 2: any situation. So I'm like, I guess I don't think
Speaker 2: I don't believe in it in the way that. I'm
Speaker 2: just like the human nature is to like make a
Speaker 2: life wherever you find yourself kind of thing. So you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: well if I found myself if like I went to
Speaker 2: the University of Ermont, but I originally wanted to go
Speaker 2: to Bolder. When I think of like college, I'm like,
Speaker 2: thank god, I'm at these people.
Speaker 3: They are my family.
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, if I went too Bolder probably.
Speaker 3: Would have met people.
Speaker 2: I was like, thank God, at these people, these are
Speaker 2: my family, you know, Like I think you like get
Speaker 2: put in situations where you're always gonna find someone that
Speaker 2: has that impact on you. And maybe I'm like wrong,
Speaker 2: but that's how I feel about it. And then I don't.
Speaker 2: I really don't believe in the like everything happens for
Speaker 2: a reason, because I think you can use that to
Speaker 2: justify like bad bad things, like as much as you
Speaker 2: can like celebrate good things that happened through it, it
Speaker 2: also like allows you to justify negative behaviors and things
Speaker 2: and be like, well, everything happens for a reason, like
Speaker 2: this has to pay off. And I'm like, well, maybe
Speaker 2: something sort of bad and it was bad to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to amend my statement and make it
Speaker 3: more like Shelby's.
Speaker 2: Because I'd beel like, should have been a lawyer, should
Speaker 2: have been a lawyer, should have been a lawyer?
Speaker 3: Convinced, Well, I just feel like I think I was
Speaker 3: like the thing that my dad always says, He's like,
Speaker 3: if you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans. Oh,
Speaker 3: he's gonna love that. I said that on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Is that like the first joke you ever told was
Speaker 1: your plans to God?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Literally?
Speaker 3: Well, because I was I was raised in a very
Speaker 3: like I think there was a strong belief in, like
Speaker 3: the trust of some kind of whatever happens will be
Speaker 3: okay kind of mindset. Because my parents met because they
Speaker 3: both my dad was cooking fish and he burnt his
Speaker 3: arm really badly, and then at the exact same time,
Speaker 3: my mom was trying to open a window and it
Speaker 3: got stuck and she like shoved her hand through the
Speaker 3: window and got cuts all up her hand, and they
Speaker 3: both went to the emergency room at the exact same time.
Speaker 3: Stop and my dad was like.
Speaker 2: Now I'm amending my statement. That's something, yeah, And so.
Speaker 3: I think it very much. And of course, like my
Speaker 3: dad was sitting in the emergency room, my mom walked in.
Speaker 3: He was like, whoa cute girl, and then they started
Speaker 3: talking and then like he gave her his number and
Speaker 3: that was literally how they met. They had no other
Speaker 3: connections so very much, and they're still together and they're
Speaker 3: super in love and blah blah blah. But I know boring,
Speaker 3: but they've been together like forty years and they So
Speaker 3: the mindset in my house was always like, you have
Speaker 3: no idea what's going to happen. We had no idea
Speaker 3: that was going to happen that day, and it changed everything.
Speaker 1: Obviously. That's where I am pretty everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 1: But I get what you mean about like the bad stuff, Like,
Speaker 1: and I do think that there's something. I don't think
Speaker 1: everything has a message. Everything that happens, like you have
Speaker 1: to look into and figure out why. I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: think that, but like I always feel like with like dating,
Speaker 1: for example, like I could be on an app looking
Speaker 1: for someone, but like if if I am supposed to
Speaker 1: meet a specific person, something like that would happen, like
Speaker 1: they we would find something like it would happen no
Speaker 1: matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would be find each other in some way somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, off not on a phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a crazy story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way. You should have started with
Speaker 1: that one. That's like paranormal, I think in some way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like something.
Speaker 3: It's true, it's true. I think I'm just like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I've obviously heard it so many times. I'm so used
Speaker 3: to it. It feels like a fact of my life
Speaker 3: because I do. I do earnestly feel like the fact
Speaker 3: that my parents met that way has deeply affected like
Speaker 3: who I am and what I think life is. Like
Speaker 3: were you raised religiously, Like no, I mean I'm Jewish,
Speaker 3: and like definitely there's like like I think definitely there's
Speaker 3: a belief in like a higher power and a god
Speaker 3: in my house. But it's also I think the judy
Speaker 3: is in pieces more like you know, leave the world
Speaker 3: better than you found it, kind of like generally good vibes,
Speaker 3: generally good vibes, and.
Speaker 2: As it says in the Torah, generally good vibes for
Speaker 2: the most part, trying out good vibes.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and relaxed when you can. But but yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that that was just that was just the energy,
Speaker 3: like it was always like if I had like a
Speaker 3: problem in school or something, it was always like look,
Speaker 3: I mean, my dad would be like, look, I didn't know.
Speaker 3: How is gonna burn my hand that day. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm failing. Mas Like, it doesn't really, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that I was going to.
Speaker 2: Get a D on the math desk. So where are
Speaker 2: we doing it?
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, well, you guys, that's it. We're done.
Speaker 1: But this was so fun. You guys, thanks for having
Speaker 1: me tell people where to listen to your pod and
Speaker 1: everything else.
Speaker 2: Listen to keeping records wherever you have podcasts you wherever
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love.
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