1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show begins right now. Everybody, all across this 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: great land, thank you for tuning in. Got a lot 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: on the plate today, a lot to get through on 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: our Clay and Buck docket right now. Many people are 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: just riveted by this unusual legal circumstance of a criminal 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: murder defendant on the stand. This is in the Murdo 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: murder trial about this family, wealthy lawyer, his son and wife, 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: one of his sons and wife killed. There had been 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: previously a young girl who was killed on the not 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: related killed, not related to them, on the family boat. 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: There's there's backstory here of ruination of the family finances, 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: of opioid addiction, and now the allegation, the primary allegation. 15 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Oh also eleven million dollars of theft has been alleged. 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: But Murdoch, the father of this family, is of the 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: Murdoch family. He is on the stand right now and 18 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: he is being asked about the States allegation that he 19 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: murdered at the family hunting kennels, his wife and his 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: younger son. So will if there's any breaking news from 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: this during the course of the show, we will bring 22 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: it to you, and also Clay may want to dive 23 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: into some legal analysis of that in just a few moments. 24 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: We've also got a whole range of things. Who addressed 25 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: he speaking of in the legal realm that grand jury 26 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: four person set of four men as we know, gotta 27 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: say four person who was giving those interviews. Clay mentioned 28 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: yesterday that she is either a witch or a Wiccan. 29 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's no offense to the Wiccan community. 30 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't really know what the difference maybe, And she's 31 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: causing problems. They're starting to say, hold on a second, 32 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: meaning the Left is saying this woman may be causing 33 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: issues for the possible indictment of Trump that maybe coming down. 34 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: So we'll certainly discuss that the US has increased it's 35 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: quiet but not covert troop presence in Taiwan, going from 36 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: a few dozen to a couple of hundred to help 37 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: make the cost of a Chinese invasion of that island. Hire. 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: We've got our friends Stephen Yates, who was in the 39 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Bush administration, a fluent Mandarin speaker, knows the Chinese area 40 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: of operations very well. He'll be with us in the 41 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: second hour of the program. And then also a couple 42 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: of other stories, national level crime stories that I want 43 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: to get to, but we'll put a pin in that 44 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: for a moment. Clay, when you see this situation, You've 45 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: got a father here on trial for a double murder 46 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: of his own wife and second son. This is not 47 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: something you generally see. We have not obviously been able 48 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: to watch the cross examination yet, but I know enough 49 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: just from watching Law and Order, you're always told, first 50 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: of all, a well advised defendant will not take the stand. 51 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Second of all, this is highly risky. Yeah. Look, this 52 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: story has really gripped much of the nation's attention, and 53 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: if you haven't been paying attention to it, the fact 54 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: that Fox News is basically going without commercial break during 55 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: his testimony, and again the defense is questioning him right now, 56 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: his own attorneys are questioning him on the witness stand, 57 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: and then I would think we will have what may 58 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: very well be an explosive cross examination. And I've read 59 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: a lot about this case because it's South Carolina backcountry. 60 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: The guy's name is it looks like it should be 61 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: pronounced Murdoch. It's actually pronounced Murdoch and his family for 62 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: three generations has been essentially the legal force, prosecuting attorneys 63 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: and whatnot in this entire region of South Carolina, which 64 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: is very rural, very poor, and is not very connected 65 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: in a general sense to the outside world. And this 66 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: story has captivated many people, not only in the United States, 67 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: but around the globe. And to your point, you almost 68 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: never see a defendant in a murder trial. Take to 69 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: witness stand now. This guy is and has been in 70 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: his career, a very skilled attorney. He's probably spent a 71 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of time in courtrooms in his life. He has 72 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: been bawling, breaking down in tears during much of this 73 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: testimony that is focused on the details surrounding when he 74 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: found the bodies of his wife and his son, and 75 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: his own elder son has testified on his behalf. But 76 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: the evidence is obviously very damning. One thing they haven't 77 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: really been able to point out buck is why did 78 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: he do it? I was going to ask you what 79 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: the motive is here? You've been following this trial more 80 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: closely than I have. But the part of just from 81 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: I've been reading about it, I haven't been somebody who's 82 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: been following, watching the live m the live shots from 83 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: from the courtroom, the way that many's many across the country, 84 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: and Fox is going with a live right now. So 85 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: he is effectively bankrupt, that's what he is. This is 86 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: all part of the claim that he's he's run out 87 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: of money. He has an opioid addiction, which he has 88 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: admitted to. He says he lied to police about where 89 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 1: he was the night of the murder, which I've always 90 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: this comes from the god the detectives I work with, 91 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: the MYPD, they just say, look for the lie. The 92 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: moment someone's lying to you, there's a reason. So that's 93 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: obviously not favorable for Alex Murdoch's um. You know, for 94 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: Alex Murdoch in front of this jury that he's admitted 95 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: to lying the police about where he was the knight 96 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: of the murder, but killing his wife and son up 97 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: is there Unless there's a major insurance policy or something, 98 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: it's not. It doesn't seem like motive is clear, which 99 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: I think would be a problem that we Obviously that's 100 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: what the defense is trying to present to the jury, 101 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: and that seems to be one of their primary points 102 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: in his favors, that there doesn't seem to be clear, 103 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: motive every case, both the prosecution and the defense have 104 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: a theory of the case that is something that you 105 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: believe is the undergirding foundation upon which you are basing 106 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: the argument, which is really just a story that you 107 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: are presenting to the jury. And it's not only by 108 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: the way, this Murdoch also was caught staging a fake 109 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: suicide attempt or a fake murder attempt. I should say, 110 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: he supposedly hired his cousin to try to kill him 111 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: and then claim that he had that the attempt had 112 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: failed and he called the police. And I mean, this 113 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: has been a total cluster. And the one thing that 114 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: has not necessarily tied together perfectly, Buck and you hit 115 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: on it is the motive. His life was falling apart, 116 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: and it seems to be the prosecution's theory of the 117 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: case that when they realized that he had embezzled eight 118 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: and a half million dollars. And by the way, let 119 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: me just take a step back and explain how all 120 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: this started. His youngest son was on a boat, was 121 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: drunk and ran the boat into a bridge support and 122 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: his girlfriend died in that incident. There then was a 123 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: massive lawsuit wrongful death civil suit filed against the Murdoch 124 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: family his younger son, and as part of that story, 125 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: they became aware as this litigation ensued, that Murdoch had 126 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: stolen millions of dollars from his law firm, basically money 127 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: that he was not entitled to, that he had effectively embezzled. 128 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: And I'm synthesizing this a little bit. And then as 129 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: that became apparent, then there is the argument that he 130 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: decided the way to distract from what was going on 131 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: in his financial affairs. This is the theory of the 132 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: prosecution was that he was going to kill his wife 133 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: and his son. It doesn't really to me add up. 134 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: And also there's an allegation that a previous maid that 135 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: worked for them may have been murdered. She fell down 136 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: the stairs and they got a multimillion dollar insurance settlement 137 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: there the children of the maid that died, they didn't 138 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: really seem to understand that there had been any kind 139 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: of settlement. So he got millions of dollars in life 140 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: insurance and he sued his own property insurance. It's really 141 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: a convoluted story, and there may be people out there 142 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: who have been following it way closer than us. In fact, 143 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are, and many of them may be 144 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: listening to us while they're also watching and or taping 145 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: this testimony. Because Murdoch taking the stand is a is 146 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: a holy crap moment for people who have been following 147 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: this case. It was massively popular in the podcast universe. 148 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it spawned an entire series of shows all 149 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: spiraled out of this. It feels like this is a 150 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: this is a desperation move for the defense. I mean, 151 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: just just based on everything that you have laid out here, 152 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: and I mean, for example, the possibility that there was 153 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: a murder of an employee and they got the settlement, 154 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean, just all of these things. The jury hates 155 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: this person, right, That's clear at this point. Alex Murdoch 156 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: is a He comes across as a detestable person. Maybe 157 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: some of them would have a particularly sympathy just because 158 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: of the he's an addict, which has come out to say, 159 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: and people are sympathetic toward addicts. But the other stuff, 160 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, the stealing and the he's he's not going 161 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: to be viewed favorably by a jury at all. So 162 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: given the facts and given the react, the other problem 163 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: the defense has here is well, who else did this? Right? 164 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: I mean they say the weapons were stolen, the weapons 165 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: have not been recovered. Yeah, and I'm glad you brought 166 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: this up, Buck, because the big part here that he's 167 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: been trying to argue is that initially there was the 168 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: thought that the brought that the son and the mom 169 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: were murdered by family that was angry over the daughter 170 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: that died in the boat accident. So it was months 171 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: between when this murder happened and when they ended up 172 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: calling a charging Murdoch because the argument had been this 173 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: was revenge for the death of the daughter in the boat. 174 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: That was what most people thought, and they thought that 175 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: both Murdoch and his surviving son were potentially going to 176 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: be targeted associated with this as well. So, I mean, 177 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: this is like a William Faulkner, you know, Gothic Southern 178 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: novel that has all these twists and all these complicated 179 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: shadowy suspects and subterfuge, and so what the heck the 180 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: jury's going to be able to uncover about all this 181 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: before all is said and done is a major challenge, 182 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: and you're going to see a lot more of this 183 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: because right now, the most obviously the defense is trying 184 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: to portray a shattered, deeply, deeply troubled apart from the 185 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: murder of his wife and son, but a shattered individual who, 186 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: as bad as he may be on some other things, 187 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: did not do this double murder. Right, That's what this 188 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: all hinges on. You're going to get a prosecution going 189 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: forward here and cross examination that is going to tear 190 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: this guy up. That's gonna be And he's gambling. He's 191 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: gambling with the rest of his life. Effectively, he's gambling 192 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: with whether or not he's going to spend the rest 193 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: of his life in prison with this, with this testimony 194 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: that he is giving, which is a performance of sorts 195 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: on the stand. So we'll continue to follow this and 196 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: I think beyond the basic facts of that, we don't 197 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: have much more for you right now. 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Encourage you to go 232 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast. Can search out Clay Travis, you 233 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: can search out buck Sexton Boom. You'll be on your 234 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: way to being able to hear every single segment, as 235 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: well as many podcast exclusives along the way. A lot 236 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: of good stuff coming in that direction. We're gonna talk 237 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: about East Palestine, which Mayor Pete finally got around to 238 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: visiting today a day after Donald Trump did. But I 239 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: saw this joke from Stephen Colbert, and to me it 240 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: seemed to personify so perfectly not only the partisan left 241 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: wing rantings of late night comedy, but also just how 242 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: hateful it is of anyone that might support Donald Trump 243 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: and so I want you to listen to this and 244 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: just kind of think about where we are. That Colbert 245 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: is not only destroyed late night television overall by turning 246 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: himself into a propaganda network for left wing wounds, but 247 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: also just the meanness associated with this joke. Listen, this 248 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: may be a surprise to you, but the former president 249 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: was not just in Ohio out of the goodness of 250 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: his heart. You see, his twenty twenty four presidential run 251 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: has gotten off to a rocky start, struggling to generate excitement, 252 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: so he viewed the visit as a major campaign event. Yeah, yeah, 253 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: no it camp. It's fitting that he's trying to restart 254 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: his campaign in East Palestine because much like the fish there, 255 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: it's dead in the water. Do you think that he 256 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: would make a joke about the Flint water crisis? Zero 257 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: percent chance? Zero percent chance. Why is that if he did, 258 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: the left wing in his own party would come and 259 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: try to cancel him. Oh so, look, I actually think 260 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this in a couple of minutes. 261 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: I actually think this is Donald Trump starting to hit 262 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: his stride. I thought that was maybe the best day 263 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: that Trump has had since he started his campaign in 264 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: East Palestration can manage to make it to East Palestine 265 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: in three weeks. Trump didn't just show up. He also 266 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: delivered supplies to help people who may be struggling with 267 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: water or basic necessities. And given the fact that this 268 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: election buck is going to be decided in the Midwest, 269 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that a lot of 270 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: these people who feel like they're forgotten and feel like 271 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: they are uniquely mocked when they haven't done anything wrong. 272 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: Oh the fish are all dead there because you got 273 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: polluted water. This is exactly why I think Trump connected 274 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and it felt to me like a 275 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: perfect real watch to his campaign to be there. Trump understands, 276 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: I think the anxiety of the forgotten American in a 277 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: way that they respond to because they think it's it's authentic. 278 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't pretend to be one of them. Obviously, he's 279 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: a guy's worth a billion dollars, give or take. But 280 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: this is the core of Trump, and Trump is m 281 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: a place like East Palastine. This is how Trump surprised 282 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. This is how the political phenomenon of MAGA 283 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: really came to be. And I just think it's interesting 284 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: if Trump focuses on this, I think he's formidable. 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You know a 307 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: lot of people have been walking around town with their 308 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: heads full of doubt and fear and feeling neglected, and 309 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: I feel like Trump's presidence today helped reassure them that, 310 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, they do care, they have not been forgotten about, 311 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: And it definitely helped lift the spirits and give people 312 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: some peace of mind knowing that people know who we 313 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: are and what's going on around here, and you know what, 314 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: a president not showing up and kind of in the 315 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: opposite and that was that's what was causing a lot 316 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: of the neglect and the feelings about the fear. Why 317 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: has Biden not been That was an East Palestine resident, 318 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: I think eloquently laying out the feelings of the people 319 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: of East Palace, Palestine, Palestine, sorry, East Palestine resident who 320 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: is laying out how it feels in that community right now, 321 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: and how Trump's visit there was powerful for a lot 322 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: of them. It was true solidarity. It was Trump at 323 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: his best in so any ways, you know, this is 324 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: the Trump base, people from communities in places like Ohio 325 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: who you know MSNBC host just don't care about as 326 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: far as MSNBC hosts are concerned. You know, if you 327 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: live in a forgotten community and you're you know, a 328 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: white working class American learned to code and you know, 329 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: moved to a suburb of San Francisco or Washington, DC 330 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: or something too bad for you. That really is the attitude, 331 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: and it comes across. Speaking of MSNBC, we have here 332 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: in clip ten, Joe Scarborough, who is honestly a cartoonish 333 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: lib at this point, a turn coat to conservatism if 334 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: he ever was a conservative, and a cartoonish lib for 335 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: the amusement of the MSNBC audience. Play clip ten. You 336 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: guys just so gross, he really is. I mean, you're 337 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: talking about Trump water branded Trump water. And by the way, 338 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: he's such a hypoc it too, talking about attacking Joe 339 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: Biden while Joe Biden is going, you risking his life 340 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: fighting for Western democracy, something he doesn't give a damn about. 341 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is risking his life. I mean, you know, honestly, 342 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: the the on air foot rub that Joe Scarborough has 343 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: to give to Joe Biden all the time, you wonder 344 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: if it gets a little bit too much after a while. Well, 345 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: not only that you hit on something that I think 346 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: is so true. Trump needs to get out of Marrow 347 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Lago more. Yes, And I think Trump is at his 348 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: best when he does the things like he did in 349 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: East Palestine where he goes into a McDonald's and orders 350 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: tons of McDonald's food for everybody who's out there working 351 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: and says, and I think he's probably true. I know 352 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: the menu. I'm paraphrasing. I know the menu better than 353 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: anybody here. Right. Trump has, for a billionaire, a lot 354 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: of common man taste. And what's so disappointing to me 355 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: about guys like Joe Scarborough Buck is, Joe Scarborough represents 356 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: the Florida Panhandle. Those are my people. Like that is 357 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: the base of people that I just absolutely love, right, 358 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: and the people in East Palestine too, I mean, these 359 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: are these are Big ten football fans, These are SEC 360 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: football fans. I know these people at their core, and 361 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: they're innately good people, and they feel like they are 362 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: totally overlooked by and large, and they're correct by people 363 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: who live in New York. In La and Buck. I've 364 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: talked about this before, but when I started my media company, 365 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: it was important to me to keep it in Nashville 366 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: and early on, people said, Oh, if you ever want 367 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: to be a success, you have to move to New 368 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: York or LA. You can't base a media company in Tennessee. 369 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: You can't base a media company in Nashville. And I 370 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: always push back. They tried to get me to move 371 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: to LA. They tried to get me to move to 372 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: New York. Those are fine places to live. I'm not 373 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: disparaging them, but I think it's important to live among 374 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: the people that you are writing for, that you are 375 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: doing media for. And what I mean by that with 376 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Trump is Marlago's gorgeous. It's spectacular. You and I went 377 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: down there. Palm Beach is amazing. Trump Towers really nice. 378 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Those aren't Trump's people. And I think Donald Trump is 379 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: at his best because he feeds off the energy that 380 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: he gets from crowds. And I think he's like a 381 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: great performer in the sense that he finds out by 382 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: speaking to them how to reflect the things that they 383 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: care about the most. And that's an incredible gift. You know, 384 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: people I think often forget this Trump everyone. Yeah, he 385 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways. You know, one of 386 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: the ultimate New York City guys. Certainly one of the 387 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: ultimate New York City names. He's a Queen's guy, though 388 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: his family's from Queens, Queens a little. You know, if 389 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: you go to Queens right now in New York City, 390 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: it's very overwhelmingly you know, middle to upper middle class, 391 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: a huge immigrant population. Queens is where people show up 392 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: from all over the world to hustle and get ahead. 393 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Right now, Donald obviously inherit a lot of money. I'm 394 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: not saying he's from the bootstraps up on his own 395 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: kind of guy, but he understands, he understands that feeling, 396 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: that sentiment. He likes those people. He can connect. And 397 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: by the way, you know, you don't know, one has 398 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: to take may or your word for it, right I mean, 399 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: who votes for him? Who who loves Donald Trump the most? 400 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: It's the construction worker from a place like East Palestine. 401 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: It's somebody who's working every day, who's working hard. It's 402 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: truck drivers who listen to this show. And you know, 403 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: we love our truck drivers because a lot of them 404 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: listen three hours, three hours at a time every day. 405 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: I hope they're tooting the horns for US across the 406 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: country right now, and they love Trump because they know 407 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: that Trump understands them at a level that's not from 408 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: the talking points, that's not the poll tested. This is 409 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: what the consultants say. So to our point, Clay, this 410 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: is Trump at his best. And it's interesting to me 411 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: because I think Mika, going back to MSNBC, I want to, 412 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: I want to, you know, get the Libs a little 413 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: bit of the rough stuff here. I think Mika is 414 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: smarter than Joe I would make that argument, or at 415 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: least has better political instincts than Scarborough. Certainly at this 416 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: point here she is She doesn't call out Biden in 417 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: this clip at least, but she does call out Boody Judge. 418 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: And I think this is the this is the Democrat 419 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: attempt to be like, hey guys, there's a big loss. 420 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: There's a big miss here from not going sooner. Clip nine, 421 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: here's Mika calling out Boodha Judge. Obviously, there's a lot 422 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: of work to do in East Palestine, and I think 423 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: Trump's gesturing with his branding and his water aside the 424 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: Transportation Secretary Pete Buddha Judge did make it clear that 425 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: he should have gone there sooner. And let's just put 426 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: a pin on that he should have gone there sooner, 427 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: and the White House should have done a better job, 428 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: even though they were in a major transatlantic moment dealing 429 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: with the future of the safety of the world. The 430 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: people of East Palestine need to feel seen and heard, 431 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, their audience, the MSNBC audience for whatever, you know, 432 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: whatever it is, they care about Ukraine. But the hosts understand, 433 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: if you want Democrats to maintain power, you got to 434 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: pay attention to things happening here in places like Ohio. 435 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's that's a gentle pushback from 436 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: Mika there because her team, she knows they've messed this 437 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: up well. And that's why to me, Scarborough is such 438 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: a disappointment. Anybody who has spent any time on the 439 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: Florida Gulf Coast and the Alabama Gulf Coast. I mean, 440 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: and maybe some of you have out there listening to 441 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: me right now, some of you live there and are 442 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: listening to us right now. It's assault of the earth. 443 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: The great line, Buck is the farther north you go 444 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: in Florida, the more southern you get. And it's one 445 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent true, right, And the idea that Scarborough, who 446 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: theoretically grew up around this part of the country and 447 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: understands these people and even represented that district in Congress, 448 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: could become so detached from the people that he grew 449 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: up around that he looks down on them with derision. 450 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: Is I think one of the great flaws of Scarborough's career. 451 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: And remember we went after him some on this show, 452 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: justifiably because he was like, oh, the reason I got 453 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: COVID bad was because I hadn't gotten my fourth or 454 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: fifth booster or whatever. It is like, there is a benefit. 455 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of Congressmen probably and senators 456 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: that listen to us too. That also, the importance of 457 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: getting out of Washington, DC is not just because you're 458 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: representing your constituents. It's because you figure out what's going 459 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: on in the real world, and you can get lost 460 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: in these big East and West Coast capitals compared to 461 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: the middle part of the country. Pete Buddha Judge, the 462 00:27:53,520 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: most well known transportation secretary, perhaps infamous transportation secretary ever. 463 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean, how many transportation secretaries can the average person name? 464 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I was about to say, we do this for a living. 465 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: We sit around reading about this and nerding out about 466 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: politics for hours a day. Clay, how far back could 467 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: you go with transportation secretaries? I might be able to 468 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: think of a couple if I try really hard on 469 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: top of my head. But Pete Buddha Judge certainly making 470 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: a name for himself in this cabinet. And here he 471 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: is telling a TPUSA correspondent basically, turn off your cameras, 472 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: leave me alone. Play clip one. He waited until President 473 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: Donald Trump came here to actually make an appearance. This 474 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: is a very important question that people across the Marita 475 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: would like to happy to have a conversation with you. 476 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: I do not want to be on camera. Well, I'm sorry, 477 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: We're on a public area, so we are allowed as press. 478 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: You guys, I would like you, guys have to turn 479 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: your cameras off. Well, I'm on a camera. I would 480 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: like your cameras to be off, and then I'm happy 481 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: to talk to you guys. Well, if you're the press 482 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: secretary of the Secretary of the Department of Transportation, don't 483 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: you think you should be able to ask questions from 484 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: there from public that I certainly I would like to 485 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: do it without the camera. Can I ask Whykin that 486 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: is a little bit aggressive. That's why? Why is it aggressive? 487 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm happy of the American people. I'm just asking why 488 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: he has not been here until Donald Trump has been 489 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: three several times for them to turn the camera's off, 490 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: and they will not do this. It's been able to 491 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: walk away. Would you like to go inside? I will 492 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: walk this way. Okay. So so that's Buddha Judge's press secretary. Um, 493 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: and what is this demand to turn the camera off 494 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: in a public place where like, what is that? I 495 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: don't even know what this is like when Pete Budda Judge, yes, 496 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: I just let's add this up, Clay. Yesterday, Buddha Judge 497 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: said to another reporter, can I take your photo? Are 498 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: they creating dossiers of reporters who are barred from events? 499 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: What are they doing? It's very weird, not only because 500 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: I would think you would want the video because that 501 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: shows exactly what you said and how you said it. 502 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: And I would bet many reporters use the video as 503 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: a transcript to be able to quote whatever the person says. 504 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: In other words, it's more reliable to have a video 505 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: of what someone's saying, I think, than just an audio. 506 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: It's very strange, very strange behavior. Woke activists. They've done 507 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: a good job of seizing control of America's schools. Now 508 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: A group of investment firms that Americans entrust with our 509 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: pensions and retirements are playing woke politics with your money 510 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: without our knowledge or consent. A few large investment firms 511 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: names you know that controlled trillions of dollars of your 512 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: money are using those dollars to advance their woke ideology 513 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: through a progressive social scoring program called ESG. 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We've been talking about what is being treated 532 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: as breaking news on Fox News. They are carrying the 533 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: live Alex Murdoch Murdoch testimony in the double murder case 534 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: of his wife and son. And many of you have 535 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: been following this case. It's among It has spawned a 536 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: absolute cavalcade of podcasts and true crime stories and everything 537 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: else associated with it. And we've got a caller who 538 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: wanted to weigh in from South Carolina. Let's see Kip 539 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina. You wanted to mention this case. 540 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: You've been following it. Roger that Grittings playing Buck, Thank you. 541 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: The Murdoch family seems to be followed by murders. And 542 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: I can't give you the exact chronology, but let's go 543 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: say four years ago, there was a young man found 544 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: deceased out in the rural out in the bush, run 545 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: over several times miles from his vehicle, miles from where 546 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: he should have been, that had some relationship schoolmate or 547 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: whatever of the Murdoch children that the sheriff was never 548 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: able to tie it together. A year or two later, 549 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: the Murdoch family's housekeeper mysteriously falls down a flight of 550 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: stairs to her death. She's grossly over ensured. That money 551 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: ended up in Alec Murdah's Murdoch's law firm. Yeah, and 552 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: then as time, then two years later there's there's the 553 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: boating accident that claims the life of a nineteen year 554 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: old girlfriend. And then two years from that we have 555 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: the double murder of the wife and the son. So 556 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: the whole murder beginning is almost eight nine years ago, 557 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: and they never mentioned these other two fatalities. They just 558 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: focus on the son and the daughter, and then the 559 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: son and the wife and the and the and the 560 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: boating accident. But yeah, the the housekeeper call, Thank you 561 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: so much, Kip from Charleston. The housekeeper situation, I mean 562 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: that is, you know, a nine out of ten on 563 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: the suspicious scale. Well and buck the way that they 564 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: that housekeeper story is tied into the fraud that they 565 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: uncovered because there was no suspicion. Basically, she fell down 566 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: the stairs allegedly and died and she was there was 567 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: a huge insurance payment, and they didn't realize the surviving 568 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: heirs of the housekeeper how much money had been given 569 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: and paid out in life insurance because Murdoch kept the 570 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: vast majority of that money and gave I think like 571 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars, I don't remember the exact It 572 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: was a rounding error on the millions that he was 573 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: able to keep over that incident. And this is one 574 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: of the things again, what seems to have started all 575 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: of this unraveling is the death of this girlfriend of 576 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: the youngest son in a boating accident. And Buck, you 577 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: were talking about police investigations and everything else. When everyone 578 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: was in the hospital at that boating accident, Murdoch, who 579 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: is an attorney, the father showed up and made all 580 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: of the survivors not say a word to police because 581 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: his son was drunk when he was piloting the boat 582 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: and they were trying to figure out, hey, who was 583 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: actually even driving this boat at the time that it 584 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: hit the bridge and this girl went flying out of 585 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: the boat and ended up dying, and so that is 586 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: where everything began to unravel. But he was trying to 587 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: rig the investigation into the boat accident, according to reports 588 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: from inside of the hospital, immediately rushing to the survivor's 589 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: bedsides and telling them don't talk to the police at all. 590 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: We're getting you attorneys, don't be involved in any way 591 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: and participating in this investigation. But that is what then 592 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: led to the alleged embezzlement being uncovered and everything sort 593 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: of unraveling in the family and has led to finally 594 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: allegedly the murder of both of this and the mom 595 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: and the son by Murdoch himself. Play you're leading us 596 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: up next? What do you want to what do you 597 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: want to top the show off with an hour or two? Well, 598 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: I think we got a guest to talk about this 599 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: big situation, Steve Yates. We are evidently going to quadruple 600 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: essentially our investment in Taiwan as an attempt to try 601 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: and restrict China's aggression in its defensisific rim invested in 602 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: its military defense, as in, we're getting ready for a 603 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: possible full scale invasion of Taiwan by China. Steve Yates, 604 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: he is an expert in the region. Formerly, he was 605 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: Deputy National Security Advisor to Vice President Dick Cheney. In 606 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: the Lighthouse, he will be with us. That is where 607 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: we're going, and then we'll continue to break down the 608 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: testimony and more. Appreciate you hanging with us. On the 609 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program.