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Speaker 3: with my co host Yay y'all hearing right there with
Speaker 3: the legendary Jia. There's been a bit numerous times we
Speaker 3: talk about that, but that's a whole nother show with
Speaker 3: a whole another floor that Ja has went around the world.
Speaker 3: It's made its way kind of like it has made
Speaker 3: his travels with two short biax And don't nobody ever
Speaker 3: remembered who the originated that? Everybody else has claimed it
Speaker 3: as they own. But I guess that's one of your
Speaker 3: many contributions to hip hop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, you know shit, I ain't charged no niggas.
Speaker 4: You know, I should be like Bootsy start going around
Speaker 4: getting my money back for shit, but you know I
Speaker 4: ain't tripping.
Speaker 3: We ain't tripping, man.
Speaker 4: I look at it as nigga, you know, niggas paying
Speaker 4: imens and still even if they don't want to be uh,
Speaker 4: you know, even if they don't want to recognize where
Speaker 4: they got it from, it's all good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But everybody knows this, specially the way you hit it,
Speaker 3: because you hit it with a chill. Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: what it is. Jeez made a whole living. I ain't
Speaker 3: mad at them because guys and I like.
Speaker 5: Jesus shit, pay me my money.
Speaker 1: But it's all good. It's all good, yes, indeed.
Speaker 3: Because you know we're all about peace and love tonight, man,
Speaker 3: and I want to kind of get back to the basics, man,
Speaker 3: because we have been talking about music a lot as
Speaker 3: of late. But the show Wheel was called the gangst
Speaker 3: the Chronicle.
Speaker 4: They won't one of your you know, it wasn't not
Speaker 4: that you know, niggas ain't fucking intellectual enough to speak
Speaker 4: on current events and ship and being involved with hip hop. Uh,
Speaker 4: seeing that a lot of motherfuckers was coming out with
Speaker 4: lists about who was the you know, the greatest or
Speaker 4: who was this and who was that, and a lot
Speaker 4: of motherfuckers were excluding you know, a lot of comrades
Speaker 4: that we had grew up with, you know, so we
Speaker 4: just felt that we had to take the route, you know,
Speaker 4: of getting into that conversation, but we don't want to
Speaker 4: get a stray from really, you know, of seeing and
Speaker 4: letting y'all know what's going on in the in the streets,
Speaker 4: in the communities to let's not let's not say streets,
Speaker 4: but just what's going on in our communities.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Across the country because me and eight y'all go see
Speaker 3: us in y'all city in twenty twenty four April, we
Speaker 3: would be in the ATA in Atlantic Georgia. More than
Speaker 3: that to come we would be in Memphis, Tennessee, messing
Speaker 3: with Project Petra.
Speaker 4: It would just be it would just be a little
Speaker 4: silly of us not to focus on the communities and
Speaker 4: what's going going on. Because outside of hip hop and
Speaker 4: music and Hollywood and movies and all that shit. Like
Speaker 4: I always say when I make records, I like to
Speaker 4: represent for the for the struggle. Niggas still the nigga
Speaker 4: that's still caught up in the shit. So sometimes we
Speaker 4: gotta address that what's still going on in the communities,
Speaker 4: because it's a lot of niggas that are still out
Speaker 4: here banging and representing, and not just on our aspect
Speaker 4: of LA and Southern California and Northern California, West Coast, whatever.
Speaker 4: But like I used to tell niggas, niggas was banging
Speaker 4: everywhere I went.
Speaker 3: It's across the country, Ohio, they banging in Chicago, Illinoise,
Speaker 3: They're banging in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 4: That's one thing. That's one thing we're gonna try to
Speaker 4: do too. You know, when we go into these towns
Speaker 4: or these places, when we start hitting the road with
Speaker 4: the podcast.
Speaker 1: We want to you know, we want to know what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 4: In the communities outside of of the stage and the
Speaker 4: cameras and all that shit, just to you know, be
Speaker 4: able to reflect on them communities were hitting, not to
Speaker 4: just be focused on the niggas with the status or whatever.
Speaker 5: But you know it's niggas is still struggling going.
Speaker 3: On exactly, man, And we have somebody sitting with us tonight.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I can't say enough about his value, the Los Angeles man,
Speaker 3: and the things that he's done over the past two
Speaker 3: maybe three.
Speaker 1: Decades now, yes, sir.
Speaker 3: Decades, you know, mister Malik Spelman. I'll let him tell
Speaker 3: what he does. He's the peacemaker. And anyone that's been
Speaker 3: in LA or not just LA, but any place this
Speaker 3: an urban area, you know, an urban inc live man
Speaker 3: in our community. Man, it's hard to keep peace man,
Speaker 3: with all the politics and everything's going on. Man, how
Speaker 3: did you get into your line of work? Man?
Speaker 6: Well, thank you very much and much love and respect
Speaker 6: to you and brother A. You know, of course, one
Speaker 6: of the catalysts that carried I speak collectively at this
Speaker 6: very moment in regards to getting the efforts for a
Speaker 6: piece during the peace treaty was his song that opened
Speaker 6: up our radio show that stimulated the mindset of the
Speaker 6: people because the music that he was playing was quite influential,
Speaker 6: and it reached the consciousness of brothers in the streets
Speaker 6: in such a way that you guys combined have touched
Speaker 6: people in multiple ways that you will never know. So
Speaker 6: when you get something like that and you get brothers
Speaker 6: like yourself and him who were during that time that
Speaker 6: was very critical for the survival of our race. You
Speaker 6: guys weren't beating the war drum because there's different rhythms,
Speaker 6: and there's different music and different sounds and symbols and
Speaker 6: colors that activate black people. Although black it's not a people,
Speaker 6: it's a condition. So when you got a brother that
Speaker 6: was singing in them tones and then dealing with crisis
Speaker 6: in the streets, you know, and high places, you never
Speaker 6: know who you influence. So right now today, although we
Speaker 6: did the peace thing, you know, I've been to three
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty gang related funerals. I've buried little kids
Speaker 6: in boxes this big when me and my brother had
Speaker 6: to beat the Paul barri because no one showed up,
Speaker 6: I've done over two hundred gang I say peace treaties
Speaker 6: because at the time that was the operative word, like
Speaker 6: the word narrative, is the operative word now, But at
Speaker 6: that time peace was a word that was either escalation
Speaker 6: or de escalation word.
Speaker 1: And now ever since then, you.
Speaker 6: Know, peace really mean if you look at the acronymys
Speaker 6: powered education always correct errors, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So once we get the power to education, we can
Speaker 6: always correct the errors of our people. So what I
Speaker 6: decided to do, by God's grace and his grace alone
Speaker 6: and with the blessings of the people, God inspired me
Speaker 6: to come up with a thing called the understanding, getting
Speaker 6: in understanding Because youngsters today, they was born during wartime,
Speaker 6: so they're not familiar with peace, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: They was born in the eighties or the late nineties.
Speaker 6: We've been at war in America for over fifty for
Speaker 6: thirty years now, you know. And I oftentimes tell people
Speaker 6: it's like, it's a damn shame that I've lost more
Speaker 6: friends on the Crenshaw Strip that they've lost in all
Speaker 6: the wars on the Gods.
Speaker 1: Strip, even up to this very day, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 6: I've been I've noticed that there's been fifteen thousand just
Speaker 6: gang related funerals in Los Angeles alone, and some of
Speaker 6: those people potential doctors, theologian, scientists, rappers, engineers, and philosophers.
Speaker 6: So when people ask me what is it that you do,
Speaker 6: I just want to set the reconstrate because there's a
Speaker 6: lot of malarkey coming across the internet in regards to
Speaker 6: the efforts and the image of black men and Los
Speaker 6: Angeles in particular, which reflects around the world, and as
Speaker 6: a result of that, they think that all of us
Speaker 6: as wild ass niggas and rob and kill. Absolutely not emphatically, No,
Speaker 6: that's not the case, because we got strong individuals like
Speaker 6: yourself and eight that are personifying their image on a
Speaker 6: balance level to be able to convey your message to
Speaker 6: the hood and keep your license to operate, as well
Speaker 6: as convey a.
Speaker 1: Message of hope and prosperity to the future.
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, man Wild And I couldn't have said that
Speaker 3: more eloquently. He broke it down. And I think that's
Speaker 3: important because one of the elements that you mentioned was
Speaker 3: the music. And you know, I get a lot of
Speaker 3: people asking me, why is the show called The Gangster Chronicles.
Speaker 3: You don't bang and and this and that. No, it's
Speaker 3: gangsters all across the world. You know, it's gangsters all
Speaker 3: across the world. And when you start thinking about the
Speaker 3: definition of a gangster, I think we've kind of minimalized that,
Speaker 3: you know, because there are several things in a gangster.
Speaker 3: It's gangster the brother that wake up every morning at
Speaker 3: four o'clock when it's rain and cold. He don't feel
Speaker 3: like it to go go to work because he gotta feed.
Speaker 3: It's three or four kids in the house and you know,
Speaker 3: put a roof over their head, and he gets up rain.
Speaker 3: He'll sleep the snow and no despite how he's feeling physically.
Speaker 3: That's gangster. The brother that comes out of prison and decides,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna change my life and I'm opening up a barbershop.
Speaker 3: That's gangster to me. Anyone that defives the eyes said
Speaker 3: it forth in front of him is gangster. And when
Speaker 3: you talk about the music like you just did, music
Speaker 3: is a very spiritual thing, Yes, sir, it reaches our soul.
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I'm not going off, but this
Speaker 3: is a parallelt what we talk about. You know, everybody's
Speaker 3: been talking about scarfaces, tiny desk. You know how he
Speaker 3: had the live instrumentation there and he was just spitting
Speaker 3: the ghetto poetry. I don't even want to call a rap.
Speaker 3: It was ghetto poetry, you know, and it just made
Speaker 3: you feel a certain way because music is spiritual the
Speaker 3: same way. Well, when you in church and service on Sunday,
Speaker 3: how they get up there, they singing, man, and the
Speaker 3: sisters get to slap, and they tambourines and they dance. Man,
Speaker 3: It's an energy, and that energy can either be positive
Speaker 3: or negative. If you're out there preaching destruction, it can
Speaker 3: be negative. You're talking about a crucial period elite in
Speaker 3: the late eighties early nineties, whenmusic was just going to
Speaker 3: a different place. And see one thing that deal with
Speaker 3: his music, as did a lot of other brothers, a
Speaker 3: couple other brothers, a few special brothers. They not only
Speaker 3: showed the pros and glorified it like okay, I'm getting
Speaker 3: away out sold fifty chickens and I got away clean.
Speaker 3: You know, killed a couple of police officer in the process.
Speaker 3: He talks about the bad stuff that happen. I got smoked,
Speaker 3: I got went to jail, this happened to home, he
Speaker 3: got killed. How influential do you think music was?
Speaker 6: Well to have someone and again not to just use
Speaker 6: the brother as an example, but having someone like him.
Speaker 6: You know, you have to speak to the people in
Speaker 6: the language in which they understand, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And at that time, the way that they were able
Speaker 6: to convey their message of experiences based on living in Compton,
Speaker 6: South Central and Watts, it had to come in such
Speaker 6: a way that they can captivate the imagination of the
Speaker 6: American people. So oftentimes his personal experience that he had
Speaker 6: was conveyed through his music because that's what he was
Speaker 6: told to do by his tribe from Tragnu, whatever tribe
Speaker 6: that he's from. So when you get that type of
Speaker 6: inspiration and then you going to those studios, you can
Speaker 6: only if it ain't in you, it's not gonna come
Speaker 6: out you you know what I mean. So at that time,
Speaker 6: there was really no voice in South Central Watson, Compton,
Speaker 6: you know, him and a couple other brothers that was
Speaker 6: putting it down and they spoke of what they knew
Speaker 6: at that time, and the beats represented that particular period
Speaker 6: of time. Now fast forward to this day, you get
Speaker 6: a lot of stuff that's on the radio, but it
Speaker 6: doesn't reflect growth and development or enlightenment, you see. And
Speaker 6: there's no offense to them brothers because I don't do music.
Speaker 1: I do people. I do human beings. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I could give a rabbit's ass about where you're from,
Speaker 6: where you come from, and I'm definitely look at me closely.
Speaker 6: I'm definitely not interested in your tough guy story. I
Speaker 6: done ran with the Tony Bogars, the baby gangsters, the
Speaker 6: whole gamut of real live brothers that accepted the challenge
Speaker 6: to change, and I came out of old folksome level four.
Speaker 1: I was in corkorand four house in Solano's Level four.
Speaker 6: Old folksome up there in them yards with them brothers,
Speaker 6: enlightening from them two twelves, that that blue note, that BGF.
Speaker 1: Car, stuff that you don't know nothing about.
Speaker 6: So to all you youngsters out there thinking that this
Speaker 6: is a tourist attraction and you're a tourists, then white
Speaker 6: folks got something for you mine. So if you're not
Speaker 6: familiar with the eat to E ratios, you know, your
Speaker 6: earnings versus your economic income or the ETE ratio when
Speaker 6: it comes to to like, for example, white people, for
Speaker 6: every fifty dollars that we spend, they spend two hundred
Speaker 6: on education. You know, see what I'm saying, so you
Speaker 6: got to know the ratios in your own biological existence
Speaker 6: and know to draw the line, because they say, what
Speaker 6: is knowledge. Knowledge is to know the ledge of something
Speaker 6: before you fall off. So today's youngsters, man, they just
Speaker 6: need to be put in the right direction, because it's
Speaker 6: really the crips and bloods and the lad a lot
Speaker 6: of fuck with them all f thirteen's eight teen streets.
Speaker 6: We done did pieces with them. I done did pieces
Speaker 6: with with with with the forty six folk six is
Speaker 6: hot Dog and them when the ventished shows name a
Speaker 6: Negro or successful world worship, did eat Deity in Los
Speaker 6: angles and not unfucked with them name of neighborhood because
Speaker 6: there's no fear. I walked through the valley to Shadow
Speaker 6: with death and fear no evil. I sold two thousand
Speaker 6: gallons of PCP. My body burnt up from selling water.
Speaker 6: I'm not no spring chicken. I just love black people
Speaker 6: and poor people. Don't get it twisted. I was a
Speaker 6: d number. I just happened to be the type of
Speaker 6: nigga that got good hair and don't care about nothing.
Speaker 1: But poor folks.
Speaker 6: Because madea's at the bus stop shitting on herself. So
Speaker 6: when they get to talking up. That's why I came
Speaker 6: onto this show, because this show will saving more lives
Speaker 6: and a cure for cancer.
Speaker 1: So when I come on that, I wanted to.
Speaker 6: Let the record reflect that his brothers out there like us.
Speaker 6: That's really pushing the line. In Los Angeles, everything is
Speaker 6: not foolishness and bullshit.
Speaker 3: And that's what we tend to stray away from.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: The youth, you know, as far as the communities, the neighborhoods,
Speaker 4: it's hard to try to reach, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: when the when the mind is young, my fascinating and
Speaker 4: I don't even want to call it a fascination with
Speaker 4: you know, claiming the hood.
Speaker 1: I grew up a normal kid.
Speaker 4: In the beginning, I thought, I did you know, uh,
Speaker 4: like I said, single moms in the house. You know,
Speaker 4: I still had a connection with my pops. You know
Speaker 4: a lot of people say when the home is fatherless,
Speaker 4: that's when you.
Speaker 1: Can you know.
Speaker 4: But I think my mom did a good job up
Speaker 4: until those adolescent years when you know, sometimes teenagers get
Speaker 4: naive to shit, or even though you're in a situation
Speaker 4: where you middle class, you know, we I grew up
Speaker 4: in Compton in Spooktown.
Speaker 1: Uh, moms worked.
Speaker 4: Me and my older sister, But it just seems like
Speaker 4: the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Life is that was it.
Speaker 4: You know, you have a lot of access like still
Speaker 4: your son played football, my son played you football, got
Speaker 4: trainers and all of this and that. But back then, yeah,
Speaker 4: a lot of shit was n not affordable for a
Speaker 4: single parent. Walking through the neighborhoods going to sh school
Speaker 4: as a youth, you get me. You start seeing the signs,
Speaker 4: cars pull up on you going to the bus stop
Speaker 4: to school, dudes asking you where you're from. You know,
Speaker 4: I guess it was the thought of unity for me.
Speaker 4: It wasn't the all the red and blue rags and whatever.
Speaker 1: It was a shit.
Speaker 4: It's a gang of niggas over here like me. You
Speaker 4: feel me. I don't see no, you know, you know,
Speaker 4: not too many fathers around and carrying, you know, loving
Speaker 4: family situations, and some of them might have been good,
Speaker 4: But growing up in the hood is was our connection
Speaker 4: to claim the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 4: I had no intention of trying to become something else
Speaker 4: at that time.
Speaker 1: All I saw was.
Speaker 4: Selling crack on coradon or and or hanging with the homies.
Speaker 4: That was my family connection at home, everybody was on
Speaker 4: their own shit, you get me. My sister did her
Speaker 4: own thing. I was over here in the hood, moms
Speaker 4: was working, You get me. So I think a lot
Speaker 4: of youth today are looking for that.
Speaker 1: You get me. That unity is what a lot.
Speaker 4: Of motherfuckers, uh uh start claiming or relatives or cousins
Speaker 4: who grow up in the neighborhood and that connection and shit.
Speaker 4: But I don't think you know, we realize what that
Speaker 4: in with that what you inherit when you start claiming
Speaker 4: the neighborhood because you gonna see some shit, You're gonna
Speaker 4: see some drugs, You're gonna see some niggas dying, You're
Speaker 4: gonna get caught up in some shootouts or whatever. So uh,
Speaker 4: not having opportunities to me is what you know, It
Speaker 4: is what get a lot of young niggas to start
Speaker 4: claiming the neighborhood or growing up into the culture of it.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: And when you living in Compton Long Beach La Watts
Speaker 4: at that time, when I started claiming the hood in
Speaker 4: the middle eighties and shit in the late eighties, that's it.
Speaker 4: That shit was it. It was fascinating, and you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying it wasn't like, oh it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It was nothing else. What else was we supposed to do?
Speaker 3: You know what's funny about you seeing that in malite?
Speaker 3: Maybe you could speak on this. You remember before Reagan
Speaker 3: got in the office, we had all these programs after
Speaker 3: school to where you can go to the gyms, the
Speaker 3: local gyms and play basketball. You had a lot more parks.
Speaker 3: You see brothers outside shooting hoop. You see had more
Speaker 3: kids playing baseball. And it is just something because I
Speaker 3: noticed that the other day. I was talking to one
Speaker 3: of my homies from Compton, and I said, man, you
Speaker 3: remember when we was kids. Man, that you can go
Speaker 3: outside and see people playing at parks. You can go
Speaker 3: up to the rec center. Everybody was headed to the
Speaker 3: rec center to play basketball. They had something going on.
Speaker 3: They had an activity. Some brothers was even able to
Speaker 3: get jobs once they turned sixteen. I remember I couldn't wait.
Speaker 3: I used to be on my mama's ass to fill
Speaker 3: out my little paperwork to get a summer job. Right
Speaker 3: because you had a little summer job. I think it
Speaker 3: might have paid you two fifty over the summer. But
Speaker 3: she was happy that you want to bost school clothes
Speaker 3: with that money, and it kind of gave you some
Speaker 3: purpose when you spent your own money on something, you know,
Speaker 3: because I always I discovered I liked things, so I
Speaker 3: always had me a little paper route. I cut grass,
Speaker 3: shovel snow, whatever I could do to make some money.
Speaker 3: But I had a mission. How big of an impact
Speaker 3: do you think that was on the hood by them
Speaker 3: cutting them programs up?
Speaker 6: Well, it was very impactful to this in the sense
Speaker 6: that I wrote for the Los Angeles I wrote several
Speaker 6: hundred articles for them, and I wrote one of many articles,
Speaker 6: one called.
Speaker 1: Mama, why did you move on this block?
Speaker 6: And basically it was giving you a scenario in which
Speaker 6: like a lady moved from Texas and she moved to
Speaker 6: say Santa Fe and Tucker, and she don't know that
Speaker 6: it's the trees is beautiful, The school system looks nice.
Speaker 6: But you put your son in that gang. You understand
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. You put your son in that gang,
Speaker 6: and then when they get to that neighborhood. I don't
Speaker 6: like to call the little brothers in gangs. I said,
Speaker 6: for the purpose of conversation, but those are escalation words
Speaker 6: for the police and the system to write checks and
Speaker 6: cost the right people. So when you see brothers and sisters,
Speaker 6: that's in these communities that they enjoy dwelling in, jumping
Speaker 6: off like we grew up in the area where you
Speaker 6: jump off the roof onto a pissy mattress and kissing, kissing,
Speaker 6: spinding the bottle and all that. But these kids are
Speaker 6: proud to be from the tribe that they're at. So
Speaker 6: if you're from Santana Block, or from Sixties, or from
Speaker 6: Faties or from Compton traged New to Spook Town, you're
Speaker 6: proud of that area because that's what you know. So consequently,
Speaker 6: your tribe has tribal issues with other tribes because we
Speaker 6: grew up under the hospeclities, these colonizers as hot Feels
Speaker 6: and McCoy's, you see what I'm saying. So when you
Speaker 6: get a situation like that and then you throw deprivation
Speaker 6: in there and lack of education, that's why it's important
Speaker 6: to know what curriculum is taught in your kid's school
Speaker 6: and who is the curriculum writer. He might have been
Speaker 6: a Confederate. So the education that we receive in the
Speaker 6: ghetto is different. In education, they get a West of supulvita.
Speaker 6: So when you see these little brothers and sisters proud
Speaker 6: of their neighborhood, like he said he was proud of
Speaker 6: his name.
Speaker 1: He enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: That was his peer group if he had to go
Speaker 6: to jury tribe, those are the people they said, we're
Speaker 6: gonna judge you by a committee of peers that you're
Speaker 6: familiar with. And that's what they're talking about. So they
Speaker 6: take the pride out of that, and then you throw
Speaker 6: a monkey wrench of confusion into this shit, and then
Speaker 6: you start taking see Ronald Reagan and Oliver northol on
Speaker 6: them bought crack cocaine to the neighborhood, oh for sure. Okay,
Speaker 6: with the with the contrast and that Salvadorian brothers and
Speaker 6: sisters and and and and and and built their space
Speaker 6: shuttle off of that. We know it's principalities and spiritual
Speaker 6: wickedness and high places. But as intellectual giants, we don't
Speaker 6: have time to take people through the step states and
Speaker 6: degrees of how we got to where we got to.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker, you know how we got it.
Speaker 6: You put us here through slavery, You rape, robbed and
Speaker 6: murdered us. You know what you did and were not
Speaker 6: pointing no finger. We still got compassion for you. So
Speaker 6: this ain't no save the people show. This is to
Speaker 6: let you know that there's some strong entities walking in
Speaker 6: these streets that protect and respect black women, that protect
Speaker 6: and respect the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Because you know, let me tell you something, big steal
Speaker 1: a gang member.
Speaker 6: Just don't kill another gang member because you killed his homie.
Speaker 1: It's deeper than that.
Speaker 6: And as intellectual spiritual giants, if we dwelt deeper into it,
Speaker 6: and see, wait a minute, because of blood, he killed
Speaker 6: that nigga, because do kill somebody black, but it's categorized
Speaker 6: as he was from the hood. No, but deep in
Speaker 6: your mind you saying to yourself, man, you killed my
Speaker 6: nego black. So that's why Couz killed blood because that's
Speaker 6: his relatives. But we're not here to have a verbal
Speaker 6: gymnastics about the conditions of our people.
Speaker 1: You know where the fuck you left us.
Speaker 6: We letting you know that pressure makes the best diamond,
Speaker 6: so it can shed light on directions. And you got
Speaker 6: gatekeepers like me that's at the door that's gonna make
Speaker 6: sure I support everything black because black is not a people,
Speaker 6: it's a condition.
Speaker 3: As deep you know, I want to ask you, man,
Speaker 3: because you are very well spoken and you do make
Speaker 3: you did mention that you've done time in the system.
Speaker 3: How were you when you got in the system.
Speaker 6: I was twenty one with no phonies that went in
Speaker 6: there for robbing the police station.
Speaker 3: Hold on robbing the police station.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a famous crime that I went went
Speaker 6: to prison for and in the city of Los Angeles
Speaker 6: on every news channel and all that kind of cook
Speaker 6: PCP and shootouts. I ran with the name of Gower.
Speaker 6: I know little Chimi and fuck with him. I don't
Speaker 6: fuck with with Peter Cody and John Boy and white
Speaker 6: Boy Buddy and you name it.
Speaker 1: I done ran the gamut.
Speaker 3: You talk about that PCP, man, that's almost like the
Speaker 3: ghetto recipe in the family tradition. Man, that recipe has
Speaker 3: passed down like by generations. Man, And this is funny.
Speaker 3: It don't never escape the black community.
Speaker 1: Well you know the acronym PCP. Stance.
Speaker 6: Will please consider the plot. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I done been looped off that shit from just smelling it.
Speaker 6: But I don't really want to expound on that and
Speaker 6: my shortcomings because I owe the community and an enormous
Speaker 6: apology I'm the negro that's responsible for our people eating
Speaker 6: out the trash. I'm the person that's responsible for our
Speaker 6: kids not going to school because I participated in this
Speaker 6: system and these oppressors foolishness, and I take this responsibility
Speaker 6: for what I did, and on behalf of all my
Speaker 6: homies that's not here, all my homies that can't speak
Speaker 6: for themselves, and all their sons that's growing up with fathers,
Speaker 6: and to the sisters that's been disrespected. On behalf of
Speaker 6: all of us as players the pimpster, the ones that
Speaker 6: made the sexy reds to us through the experience of
Speaker 6: of of of having them involved in our lives.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna apologize to.
Speaker 6: The young homies for teaching this gang shit on behalf
Speaker 6: of the brothers that's no longer.
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of people feel that our
Speaker 4: culture and our music is a part of the destruction
Speaker 4: of the youth. How you see niggas still gang banging
Speaker 4: and claiming the hoods and all that. So you feel
Speaker 4: responsible for starting that foundation of showing because do you
Speaker 4: feel like what you did talk the youth coming up
Speaker 4: that same path to do it? Because we still got
Speaker 4: niggas in the hood going to pin we still got
Speaker 4: niggas selling shirms still and dope and claiming the hood
Speaker 4: like it's the most important thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Well, what I take responsibility for.
Speaker 6: And my verbal public apology was not an individual apology based.
Speaker 1: On my own shortcomings.
Speaker 6: It was an apology based on a collective group of
Speaker 6: errors that we made as black men from South Central Wise, Comton, Pomona,
Speaker 6: and beyond Chicago, that we bid into for the purpose
Speaker 6: of survival. As an individual, I'm totally cognizant of the
Speaker 6: fact that we have perpetuated this, this foolishness in Sutuay
Speaker 6: that has come down to our children.
Speaker 1: I can't control that.
Speaker 6: That's America's job, okay, But I can identify with the
Speaker 6: fact that there are people like ourselves who know that
Speaker 6: one we take responsibility for the contributions that we made.
Speaker 6: If I broke Miss Johnson's window and ran when I
Speaker 6: was little Miss Johnson, I apologized to you. If I
Speaker 6: sold dope to the community, and I know that I
Speaker 6: sold dope and a bunch of other cats sold dope
Speaker 6: and they didn't get a chance to say they apologize
Speaker 6: that God first into the community. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 6: to implement because it's gonna always go see black, everybody
Speaker 6: that's black, its not your brother. It's a lot of
Speaker 6: niggas doing stuff under the stolen identity, and then they
Speaker 6: blaming it on black people. We're black, but it's a
Speaker 6: lot of nigga foolishness that's outside has nothing to do
Speaker 6: with us, oh love. So we have to start taking
Speaker 6: responsibility and separating the two entities when it comes to
Speaker 6: who's doing what, because us we're real men, We're really
Speaker 6: trying to help our community. So when we start making
Speaker 6: these apologies collectively as individuals and then taking responsibility for
Speaker 6: the most minuscule amount of dirt that you did to
Speaker 6: black people, it speaks collectively for us all. But as
Speaker 6: far as the perpetuation of what's going on today, that's
Speaker 6: America's problem is gentrification. See I wrote an article once
Speaker 6: before called chemicals and Biological Weapons of mass Destruction hit
Speaker 6: the Inner City to the President of the United States,
Speaker 6: I wasn't talking about no bombs. I'm talking about that
Speaker 6: crack cocaine, then big old pistols with them switches on there.
Speaker 1: That HIV and that AIDS and all that shit. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So there's a different approach when when the brother made
Speaker 6: his record, it may not have been a direct apology
Speaker 6: to the black community, but it was an enlightenment with
Speaker 6: an apology attached because it enlightened people like myself. So
Speaker 6: they'll never be a way for us to apologize for
Speaker 6: the oppressor's bullshit. Like I tell a lot of youngsters,
Speaker 6: they say, man, I live on Rosecran.
Speaker 5: You do.
Speaker 6: Well, who is General Rosecran? So we gotta teach our
Speaker 6: children different. Oh God blood, I'm on I live on
Speaker 6: Rose Grand. General Rose Grand was an oppressor. That's deep, man,
Speaker 6: you see what I'm saying. Then they say, well, you know,
Speaker 6: I drank Kor's beer with Chors, wasn't oppressor. Every oppressor
Speaker 6: that was an oppressor got a beer named after them
Speaker 6: on street Picco Payo. He was the first black Mexican
Speaker 6: American a governor or something. So we have to give
Speaker 6: our people different scenarios to let them know. The housing
Speaker 6: projects was built by the best black architect that was
Speaker 6: ever lived.
Speaker 1: I forget his name, that built all the Hollywood shit.
Speaker 3: A brother, that's not the stuff that they teach us.
Speaker 6: They're not gonna teach you that They're not gonna tell
Speaker 6: you who the Crenshaw family is. They're not gonna tell
Speaker 6: you that the DWP is a private company not owned
Speaker 6: by the state. They're not gonna tell you that. They're
Speaker 6: not gonna tell you about how the black people and
Speaker 6: Watts and the lad that's in the pipes underneath the water,
Speaker 6: and how they got all the different gentrification going on there,
Speaker 6: running the brothers out of them community.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna tell you that.
Speaker 3: You know what's deeper box you're seeing that, man, I
Speaker 3: was coming from I was coming from Inglewood one day
Speaker 3: and I was driving down a period with my wife
Speaker 3: and I took a wrong turn. I was trying to
Speaker 3: go visit one of my partners over there, and you
Speaker 3: know how you turn up and the Watts, you can
Speaker 3: get lost a little bit. I wound up on this
Speaker 3: one street. Man. I kept driving because it wasn't no
Speaker 3: way to get out I was. We had to come
Speaker 3: to the end of the coda. Second turned around. I
Speaker 3: saw a bunch of construction taking place, like new stuff
Speaker 3: out there, man, Like they were building buildings over there.
Speaker 3: And when I did go to my partner's house, that
Speaker 3: house had been in their family for maybe two generations.
Speaker 3: When his grandma first came from Tennessee. That's where she
Speaker 3: bought at, right, And he was telling me, yeah, we
Speaker 3: about to sell this some people and came over. Man,
Speaker 3: they offered us seven hundred thousand at that time, which
Speaker 3: is way over the value and everything. And I noticed
Speaker 3: how they're shipping all the brothers and everybody out there
Speaker 3: to the desert now and telling them you could take
Speaker 3: your section. They didn go out to land cash.
Speaker 4: And them caster Yeah, they tried to. I think they
Speaker 4: tried to do something in Moreno Valley when they were
Speaker 4: trying to tear down the projects and send everybody out
Speaker 4: to there.
Speaker 3: Well, what they're doing is now they're taking their land back.
Speaker 3: That's prime real estate right there. You can see how
Speaker 3: they cleaned up downtown. Downtown is actually a place worth visiting.
Speaker 3: I remember when I first came to California in eighty eight,
Speaker 3: eighty seven, it was like homeless central down there, you know, downtown.
Speaker 3: But now you go down there, it's nice. You know,
Speaker 3: my son got an apartment down there. Man, it's plush.
Speaker 1: It's called gentrification.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But if you notice they shipping us out to
Speaker 3: the desert now, buying houses from taking them from them
Speaker 3: in some cases making them offers they can't refuse, right,
Speaker 3: so they setting off their land man not really negotiating,
Speaker 3: not knowledgeable about the whole process, But I said, what's
Speaker 3: going on? So pretty soon you think about it. You
Speaker 3: got the bounty hunters over there, You got grape streets
Speaker 3: over there, right, all these neighborhoods man based on one location, right,
Speaker 3: those locations may not be there in another ten years.
Speaker 1: I think another two years, two you give it that soon.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because what happens is all the people that they're
Speaker 6: running out of these areas.
Speaker 1: Did they tear Jordan down here? They got new housing
Speaker 1: over there. They toward criteria that you gotta get in one.
Speaker 6: If your son get caught smoking weed or writing on
Speaker 6: the wall being an adolescent, you're not there. And without
Speaker 6: without even having to mention it, we know we not there.
Speaker 6: It's a rap for that. Then brothers and sisters is
Speaker 6: holding on and still trying to do things, my boy
Speaker 6: Dow and his family, handing out food and whatnot. But
Speaker 6: what happens is they move us out to these other
Speaker 6: areas on the quake faults line with the earthquake line
Speaker 6: is Fontana, San Bernardino that's where the earthquake the fault
Speaker 6: line is, so they move us there. But by the
Speaker 6: time we get to hypothetically speak in Fontana, if we
Speaker 6: try to go to the next city over, Fontana then
Speaker 6: called them and told them to raise the rent, so
Speaker 6: they push us from here. Then we push out there
Speaker 6: at thirteen hundred dollars a month, three bedroom, three bath,
Speaker 6: and then the next city over, it's like, hey, the
Speaker 6: Negroes is coming.
Speaker 1: So then they raised the rent.
Speaker 6: So that's what keeps our people in a perpetual homeless situation.
Speaker 6: And if you're not, we'll see my crew and not
Speaker 6: Daou and a bunch of other brothers. Even with Big U,
Speaker 6: we went out there and bought land in Adelanto. A
Speaker 6: lot of my partners from Swans. We bought land. Man
Speaker 6: in the desert. Now you look up, they got the
Speaker 6: bullet train coming, then they got the other train coming.
Speaker 6: And I can show you on my phone right now
Speaker 6: where a piece of land that I spent ten acres. See,
Speaker 6: we have to be there's no simple solutions, big Brothers,
Speaker 6: only intelligent choices. And one of the intelligent choices that
Speaker 6: we have to make is to remember.
Speaker 1: That a man with no land has no voice.
Speaker 3: That's real talk. You dig.
Speaker 6: And when our parents came out here from the plantation
Speaker 6: and Jim Crow and all that, Grandpa got a nail
Speaker 6: and a piece of wood and a plot and he
Speaker 6: made something happen.
Speaker 1: So but but it and you can put it in
Speaker 1: the links.
Speaker 6: We're gonna show where you can get land for two
Speaker 6: hundred dollars down, no credit check, and buy it in
Speaker 6: the desert.
Speaker 1: We definitely need that link, brother, yes sir, because here's
Speaker 1: what happened.
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna be very short withed not to be
Speaker 6: a compulsive talker thinking, but I'm trying.
Speaker 3: Got here. We need this information. It's important.
Speaker 6: But you can get land for two hundred down, no money,
Speaker 6: no credit check, no nothing. Right now, the land that
Speaker 6: I spent for ten thousand for ten acres, that's nine
Speaker 6: something thousand square feet. The average house is fifteen hundred
Speaker 6: square feet, three bedroom, three bath, right, I can put
Speaker 6: a water well on there. I can have eighteen horses
Speaker 6: in some motion. All of America's wars, Israel's wars, Palestine
Speaker 6: and Egypt, Africa, you name it. Everything is fought over
Speaker 6: what land. Hoods has fought over what land? Cowboys and
Speaker 6: Indians has fought over what land, and the only person.
Speaker 1: That can make land is God.
Speaker 6: So I'm telling young people today, don't go buy them
Speaker 6: twenty six inch rims, play Boy.
Speaker 1: You don't need no Rolex, you need a roller Dex.
Speaker 4: But that's and I don't want to say immaturity, but
Speaker 4: that's the mark of.
Speaker 5: The youth and the situation of feeling important.
Speaker 4: You get me if I got the rims, if I
Speaker 4: got the motherfucking New Kicks, if I got the mother
Speaker 4: for you know, what way do you reach the youth
Speaker 4: if they've always been unreachable?
Speaker 1: You lead by example, meaning that.
Speaker 6: When you see the youth today, you don't come in
Speaker 6: telling them what to do. You expound on the ideas
Speaker 6: that they have because it's their turn. I'm not expecting
Speaker 6: them to go back to the era when Foods is
Speaker 6: riding up on beach cruisers with shotguns, blowing your head
Speaker 6: off and riding off because they're in a different area.
Speaker 6: So you gotta understand what thing about the youth today.
Speaker 6: They got adult problems. They got light bills, phone bill
Speaker 6: four hundred a month, Netflix bill four hundred a month.
Speaker 1: Mama want them out the house.
Speaker 6: They got grown folks bills it ain't like with me
Speaker 6: and you was growing up a bowl of cereal in
Speaker 6: the flinchstones and get your ass up for coming home late.
Speaker 6: These kids got kiar bills, They got the rent eighteen
Speaker 6: hundred a month. They got a baby at one steak
Speaker 6: and the stow at vance is eighteen dollars. Let me
Speaker 6: give you another perfect example. You go into Ralph Savan's
Speaker 6: a superior. You see the people coming out. They add
Speaker 6: of shape, they breathing hard. They fucked up.
Speaker 5: On the walker.
Speaker 6: They eye again, pajama pants on with the slides and
Speaker 6: the shoes.
Speaker 1: Young girls ain't getting the motown kick no more.
Speaker 6: They learn how to have some dignity in practice class
Speaker 6: distinction before you get on the stage. But then you
Speaker 6: go to Whole Foods. Everybody got on due balance. Baby
Speaker 6: right here jumping into Vovo smiling. They get brown paper
Speaker 6: bags because then plastic bags is to hold all that
Speaker 6: sugar that poison. You see the difference. Their mindset is different.
Speaker 6: So we have to not give up hope and teach
Speaker 6: our people what to do. By example, when you find
Speaker 6: a dirty glass, you put a clean one beside it
Speaker 6: to give them a choice, because we're gonna need that army,
Speaker 6: your snotty.
Speaker 1: Nose, trevoring in with them knuckles we need them, we
Speaker 1: need them.
Speaker 6: But if you look at that research that that Jewish
Speaker 6: woman said it in front of their council the other day.
Speaker 6: She said, the biggest threat to Israel and I got
Speaker 6: a gang of Jewish brothers and sisters that disagree with this.
Speaker 1: She said, the biggest threat to America to.
Speaker 6: Israel is not a moss it is not Al Qaeda,
Speaker 6: it ain't it ain't COVID. It is the young black
Speaker 6: people in America. Look it up.
Speaker 1: And she was in Burbank. She was in Israel's at
Speaker 1: a council.
Speaker 6: Where they got intellectual giants, social scientists, and that woman
Speaker 6: stood up and you can google it right now and said,
Speaker 6: the biggest threat to the state of to the country
Speaker 6: of Israel, the state of Israel. People that we support
Speaker 6: is us. You know why, because you've you busting that
Speaker 6: window in Beverly Hills. They say you're doing home invasions,
Speaker 6: you're snatching chains, because you're messing with their well being.
Speaker 1: That's why we have to teach our children to eat to.
Speaker 6: Eat ratios, economics versus earnings, education versus entertainment, and if
Speaker 6: you don't give them a ratio. There's no common denominator
Speaker 6: from the georg extrapolator draw from.
Speaker 3: M You know what I see as the common denominator, Man,
Speaker 3: it's poverty when you don't give a person a choice
Speaker 3: or make them feel hopeless, and they have a feeling
Speaker 3: of hopelessness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because's got excess.
Speaker 4: Everybody don't have the mentality to.
Speaker 5: Blunt change exact.
Speaker 3: It's when you pour eight you can't see nothing. I remember,
Speaker 3: I grew up on the east side of Cleveland, and
Speaker 3: like you made a comment about La, La is very deceptive.
Speaker 3: You got the palm trees. It's actually nice when you
Speaker 3: come here. If you look at the average street in
Speaker 3: South Central, it's a nice community compared to somewhere in Cleveland,
Speaker 3: where you got a bunch of dirt plots, empty apartment
Speaker 3: buildings with the windows boarded up, and then you no
Speaker 3: bottles stuck in the ground. It's just different than my
Speaker 3: right beat. It's a little different because you can see
Speaker 3: the property right there, right. I had friends that would
Speaker 3: stay in the apartment buildings, them abandoned buildings, they whole families,
Speaker 3: extension cord out the window, going to the going to
Speaker 3: the pole, and they in there just like they're supposed
Speaker 3: to be there. All right, homie, I'll see you later,
Speaker 3: he jumping off, moving the board.
Speaker 5: And going on there is still crazy when.
Speaker 3: You have it's the truth. I'm just being real, dug.
Speaker 5: When you have no bullshit and you being.
Speaker 3: You hopeless bro, and you don't have no money. And
Speaker 3: this dude around the counter, man, your mama seeing you
Speaker 3: there because she got a line of credit at the
Speaker 3: liquor store a dog. And you'd see him open up
Speaker 3: that door and lift that little tray up and he
Speaker 3: got all the little bundles, and you get that thought
Speaker 3: in your head. Man, my stomach growling, Man, my mama,
Speaker 3: don't send me up here with this, you know, to
Speaker 3: get two dollars worth of blooney and the slice of
Speaker 3: you know, some loaf of bread.
Speaker 1: Hard times make bad choices, and.
Speaker 3: You going there.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time my book Somebody Dog, it
Speaker 3: was because I was hungry and I got away with it.
Speaker 3: So it made me go book Somebody again. And if
Speaker 3: those didn't know, no booking is robbing. Somebody made me
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 1: Again and again and again to.
Speaker 3: The man at the Delhi around the corner. His employee
Speaker 3: called the police and they pulled up to my mama's house.
Speaker 3: I remember they pulled up there like yesterday and they
Speaker 3: said that, okay, which one of these kids is. I
Speaker 3: was out there with my friends. Guess what he was
Speaker 3: doing eating? We wouldn't. I wasn't stealing money. I was
Speaker 3: stealing food, right, We out there eating, all me and homies,
Speaker 3: just a big pile here. Y'all want something?
Speaker 1: You want something?
Speaker 3: We eating? Dude looked at me and said, no, what was
Speaker 3: none of them? And he knew you know why, because
Speaker 3: he knew my mama. And I thank God for that dude,
Speaker 3: because if I would have winter, I'd have become indoctrinated
Speaker 3: in the system at that time. If that dude shout
Speaker 3: out to the homie Nick next Daily in Cleveland, he
Speaker 3: gave me a break. A lot of people ain't giving
Speaker 3: people passes because he understood. And he told me that day,
Speaker 3: he said, listen, you know how they call you my friend,
Speaker 3: my friend while you steal from me. I tried to
Speaker 3: help you. I was poor too. You have to work,
Speaker 3: and he gave me a job. Man. That was my
Speaker 3: first job I had. I was in charge of the
Speaker 3: that's when they had the pack man machines that went crazy,
Speaker 3: you know packed man, you know the video games. I
Speaker 3: was in charge of that little area, making sure it
Speaker 3: didn't nobody else steal. I was sure like the pop bottles.
Speaker 3: You know, pop bottles used to be a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Had to spray the pop bottles down and sweep the store.
Speaker 3: I got fired. I was a week dog, but it
Speaker 3: gave me a sense of pride to where I learned.
Speaker 3: I said, you know what, man, it's way easier and
Speaker 3: you feel better about yourself when you go earn something
Speaker 3: for that. And I was stacked my money up and
Speaker 3: I've always been that way since then. Unfortunately, my hustle
Speaker 3: turned other things as I got you know when that
Speaker 3: crack came, because you know, you saw the homies that
Speaker 3: was fifteen buying cars and they was coming in them
Speaker 3: fresh new Jordan's and all that stuff. You know, So
Speaker 3: it changed a little bit later on. But we have
Speaker 3: to create opportunities for our youth today, man, because if
Speaker 3: we don't, all we could do all the talking in
Speaker 3: the world and showing. But as long as they got
Speaker 3: them Honger pains in their stomach and they feel hopeless, bro,
Speaker 3: we go keep countil we go see a pattern of
Speaker 3: the same shit going on and on again is repeating itself.
Speaker 4: Do you attribute all the snatching and grabbing from the
Speaker 4: stores and all the high extensive shit, do you attribute
Speaker 4: that to honger pains or do you attribute that to
Speaker 4: the fad of today?
Speaker 3: A lot of that is just greed, I believe man,
Speaker 3: And you know what, it's still hunger pains because and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you talk about it. I'm gonna let
Speaker 3: you say laying on this in a minute. But what
Speaker 3: I see today with the kids, right and I don't
Speaker 3: want to turn this into a thing where we talk
Speaker 3: about the youth of the day, because they're not too
Speaker 3: differ than what we was, right, But but what we
Speaker 3: didn't have eight We didn't have these illusions of grandeur
Speaker 3: on the television screen. Because these kids sit at home
Speaker 3: and they look at their phones. Right now, information is
Speaker 3: more accessible than this ever been in the history of
Speaker 3: the human race. Probably right now you can literally go
Speaker 3: in something, type in something in Google and it's gonna
Speaker 3: give you the information. But that's not They not going
Speaker 3: to go seek the knowledge that he's talking about. They
Speaker 3: going there and they look at you know, not just
Speaker 3: the music videos, but the movies, and they see these
Speaker 3: brothers just balling, and it's a similar situation to how
Speaker 3: it was when we grew up, except we saw the
Speaker 3: dude in the corner, on the corner exactly like on
Speaker 3: these but this time it's just ten times bigger, like
Speaker 3: it's magnified a million times bigger, because now it's a
Speaker 3: dude pulling up in the Rose Royce. He got a
Speaker 3: bunch of jewelry on he got this. They want that.
Speaker 3: They don't even want to skip to the point and
Speaker 3: just getting the meal that.
Speaker 4: I saw the hard work or too. My mom went
Speaker 4: to work every day. My father went worked at General
Speaker 4: Motors till he died.
Speaker 5: But was that a hard worker?
Speaker 1: But no.
Speaker 4: And you know we was middle class. Like I said,
Speaker 4: I grew up on Johnson Street. We wasn't rich, you
Speaker 4: get me. We didn't have a fancy car and none
Speaker 4: of that ship. But I saw the hard worker everybody,
Speaker 4: you get me. My family, my mom's in them.
Speaker 1: They came from.
Speaker 4: Guffport, Mississippi. They had the hard work mentality hard I
Speaker 4: saw the nigga down the street on Dayton's That's what
Speaker 4: I'm the fucking center lines, the Nissangan trucks, the bugs
Speaker 4: with the plush with a.
Speaker 3: Page ron with a beeper on, a nutfull of money
Speaker 3: in this thing and a bad bitch.
Speaker 1: That that is what attracted me to like.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I saw the hard struggle of moms
Speaker 4: working nine to five every day and still at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, shit was hard to pay man
Speaker 4: all that thirding that she was doing. We living in
Speaker 4: motherfucking Cerritos or Baldwin fucking he.
Speaker 3: So you look at that as a waste of time.
Speaker 4: Almost We we living in the block in Compton with
Speaker 4: niggas coming through blasting every day because and she pulling
Speaker 4: us down on the floor from the bed because niggas
Speaker 4: is coming through blasting. So the the the honesty shit
Speaker 4: or the lifestyle of the nine to five, I was like,
Speaker 4: fuck that shit, it's a struggle. When I'm looking down
Speaker 4: the street. This nigga got a brand new motherfucking elk,
Speaker 4: fresh off the lot at.
Speaker 1: Felix on, brand new Dayton's.
Speaker 4: In the Alpine, and the EQ the six by nine,
Speaker 4: and the nigga in high school.
Speaker 3: Now, just imagine eight that looks bigger than life, right,
Speaker 3: imagine what these kids see now with these like, and
Speaker 3: I call them optical illusions. I ain't just gonna say
Speaker 3: the rappers because it's the movies now, right. You see
Speaker 3: the dude, man, that's the baller on TV. This nigga
Speaker 3: don't never have a job or nothing on there. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's an illusion, right. These kids
Speaker 3: see these illusions, man, and they're impatient. They don't want
Speaker 3: a way. You could tell it, kid, well, if you
Speaker 3: work hard, maybe one day. No, they want it right now.
Speaker 3: Instant gratification they want. We are in the age of
Speaker 3: instant gratification. I believe it started with the microwave of
Speaker 3: in the moment, man, because I remember I put a
Speaker 3: burrita on the other and I had three hours. You're done.
Speaker 3: I've been on start to death. You know, the little
Speaker 3: cheap ass frozen burritos. You'll wait three hours for that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Later on, it was a minute later. You got your thing,
Speaker 3: and then they put the drive throughs in the restaurant.
Speaker 3: Can I take your order? They want that motherfucking shit
Speaker 3: right now, dog, They want it right now, not yesterday,
Speaker 3: not tomorrow, but right now.
Speaker 6: Well, you're absolutely right on two fronts. And you guys
Speaker 6: made some very valid points. Of course, we were raised
Speaker 6: by OG's and not ig That's the first thing, definitely,
Speaker 6: And the second thing is sometimes we have to really
Speaker 6: point the finger at the hidden hand, the person that
Speaker 6: hitting and hide the hand. And some of the problems
Speaker 6: of black people today coming from the greatness that we
Speaker 6: came because they only talk to us about our shortcoming, slavery,
Speaker 6: getting your ass. Well, we took your shit, but our
Speaker 6: history and our greatness supersedes civilization.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: After God, then he put us. Then he put the sun, moon,
Speaker 6: the stars and told him to bow down to the
Speaker 6: black man. So because our children know that something deep
Speaker 6: in their psyche tells them that they're royal, that they
Speaker 6: deserve better, that they've been robbed, that that's your shit
Speaker 6: that you know you can't get to it at the
Speaker 6: homie down the block balling. It's deep in your fucking
Speaker 6: psyche that's telling you. I'm not supposed to be poor,
Speaker 6: because poverty is They say in the Koran that poverty
Speaker 6: is worse than death. It's best to murder man than
Speaker 6: to leave them in poverty. You dig, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So when you get these type of situations
Speaker 6: where these kids is sitting back and they saying, my
Speaker 6: daddy died, defeated, my grandma died, defeated. But Bob and
Speaker 6: Bobby Hills High School. That punk motherfucker, he don't do shit,
Speaker 6: he got everything. Fuck it, I'm a rebel like the slaves.
Speaker 6: They would not turn it. So that's a rebellion. That's
Speaker 6: America's fault. That's Biden's fault. Biden, you should have never
Speaker 6: locked up. They daddy you and Bill Clinton with three strikes.
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris, you still got some of my homies doing
Speaker 6: seventy five years of life in the Feds right now,
Speaker 6: where you're up there smiling with that motherfucker oppressor and
Speaker 6: our people dying on their feet. Okay, So we can't
Speaker 6: just look at the kids, because the kids are the
Speaker 6: one they gonna throw out there to say that's the problem.
Speaker 1: See they did that.
Speaker 6: They bust the window. Motherfucker. Do you know that that
Speaker 6: sign that they got from Findy come from an African tribe?
Speaker 1: Mmm?
Speaker 6: Did you know them signs that they got for the most,
Speaker 6: the biggest designer clothes they got, all them symbols come
Speaker 6: either from an Indian or African tribe. You got Africans
Speaker 6: with finny cutting, they face with razor.
Speaker 3: We don't know that information, man, we don't have It's
Speaker 3: like we don't have access to a lot of that
Speaker 3: information to tell these kids they lineage because like you say,
Speaker 3: all we hear about is the slavery, right, all we
Speaker 3: hear about is the slavery. And they don't project positive
Speaker 3: black images. Man, I'm gonna tell you aighten, you know this.
Speaker 3: That's why I always act like I'm somebody's father when
Speaker 3: I'm up here. You don't never see me doing a
Speaker 3: while now. And it's been to our detriment kind of
Speaker 3: that we choose not to do the bullshit, right.
Speaker 1: Definitely, you know it's been. You know, we can go.
Speaker 3: We could probably make ten times more money man, by
Speaker 3: doing the crazy, the silly shit. But I refuse to
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, I have some
Speaker 3: individuals walking around the world my last name, he got
Speaker 3: individuals walking around wearing his last name. The last thing
Speaker 3: I would want somebody to do is man, that show daddy.
Speaker 4: I just you know, we are looked at already as
Speaker 4: in a negative light, especially when you come from the
Speaker 4: walks of life we come from. It's my reason for
Speaker 4: trying to be somewhat intelligent, articulate when you speak and
Speaker 4: you answer questions, and you don't get involved with what's
Speaker 4: popularized today as far as the internet and content and
Speaker 4: the crazy shit, because like I said, we already looked
Speaker 4: at as as on the on the wrong side of
Speaker 4: the fence. So you gotta be able to show motherfuckers
Speaker 4: that even though you come from that side of the tracks,
Speaker 4: your your, your, your, your maturity shows that you know
Speaker 4: you can be able to avoid certain conflicts and mess
Speaker 4: and show people that we're not just the ignorant negroes
Speaker 4: that the paint the picture is painted.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: You niggas came from poverty and gang banging and selling
Speaker 4: drugs and whatever. Y'all should be involved with what you know.
Speaker 4: A lot of motherfuckers like to see the downfall of
Speaker 4: the black man. And the problem is a lot of
Speaker 4: it is a is a same color.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 4: I had to tell my homeboy one time because he
Speaker 4: likes watching the shows where you know, the bitches be
Speaker 4: fighting and the conflict and it's always shit cracking, and
Speaker 4: and I'll be like, why are you interested in shit
Speaker 4: like that?
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's just so funny.
Speaker 4: And this Joe, you know, so and so got they
Speaker 4: ass whooped, and then these motherfuckers start fighting and won't
Speaker 4: you won't? I said, that's why motherfuckers put them shows
Speaker 4: on TV, because they sit up and go niggas of
Speaker 4: seeing niggas in bullshit.
Speaker 3: All the time, man and us painted in the most
Speaker 3: foolish light possible. This question for you, Malique, kind of
Speaker 3: maybe you can help me expound on this a little bit, right.
Speaker 3: I think I was talking to you eight and I
Speaker 3: noticed that with us as black men, right, I've noticed
Speaker 3: EAX generation seems like they're doing a little bit better
Speaker 3: than the previous, but not really because when you looked
Speaker 3: at a brother that was a certain age. If you
Speaker 3: looked at a brother in nineteen seventy five that was
Speaker 3: thirty years old, he carried itself a certain way. Right.
Speaker 3: It's like sometimes it's almost like our growth is stunning,
Speaker 3: because I see some of these brothers online and just
Speaker 3: some of these brothers in the streets. You know, they
Speaker 3: may be fifty years old, bro, but they got the
Speaker 3: mentality of like a sixteen year old. What do you
Speaker 3: attribute that to? It's like our growth has been stunned Somewhere.
Speaker 3: I see some of these brothers. And some of these
Speaker 3: brothers are guys that make pretty good livings, but they
Speaker 3: yet like fools.
Speaker 6: Well that's called buck breaking, and it's been around since
Speaker 6: the beginning of time. You see a decade car has
Speaker 6: got a king, a queen, the ace of spades, the joker.
Speaker 6: What position do you play amongst our people? You got
Speaker 6: a lot of jokers, You got a lot of queens,
Speaker 6: you got a lot of jacks.
Speaker 1: What position do you see? I play chess, but I.
Speaker 6: Play chess with all pawns on the table because I
Speaker 6: don't have time to play no games, and then I
Speaker 6: don't need no clock. So when you're dealing with a
Speaker 6: situation where you got brothers personifying that type of imagery
Speaker 6: and then coming back influencing our youth, that's by design.
Speaker 6: That's America. America never cleaned up the image of black people.
Speaker 6: They never gave them the two for example, and not
Speaker 6: to cut your wisdom, Wall Street, the most positive thing
Speaker 6: could have ever happened. But somehow or another, they infused
Speaker 6: some bullshit in there and fucked them off.
Speaker 1: The crips and bloods.
Speaker 6: They started out as something to protect Spook down from
Speaker 6: the white gangs. That was up in Huntington Beach called
Speaker 6: the Dirty Draws gang. See the first gang injunction was
Speaker 6: put on a Dirty Draws gang in Huntington Beach. A
Speaker 6: white child and no pun intended. But I speak from
Speaker 6: where I am. A white child walking down mail Rose,
Speaker 6: sagging with his pants hanging down, earrings.
Speaker 1: Over in tattoos. He's an aspiring rock star.
Speaker 6: But little Pooky local Pole ain't got no best but
Speaker 6: western surfplus clothes on shoes toward walking down Mailrose. He
Speaker 6: considered a gang bang of trying to steal something. When
Speaker 6: college's kids go in college at USC and USLA and
Speaker 6: they get drunk and drown their homeboy and all that,
Speaker 6: they have a safety net for them. But when Pooky
Speaker 6: get killed shot up at a party, he's going to
Speaker 6: the penitentiary. When the little Caucasian or oppressor shoot up
Speaker 6: a school, they always go and say, well, he was
Speaker 6: a good kid, and he always handcuffed in the front
Speaker 6: and they take him to McDonald's.
Speaker 1: But when little POOKI get in some trouble, his.
Speaker 6: Head slammed in the back of the car, his arms
Speaker 6: up like this, and they go take his brother and
Speaker 6: put him in the hole in the penitentiary and cut
Speaker 6: his mama ran off and cut him out the projects.
Speaker 6: You have to know systemically what's going on. There's no
Speaker 6: when you point one finger people, there's always four point
Speaker 6: at you. And our youth today have been misguided and
Speaker 6: it's just like a train at Christmas.
Speaker 1: You just learning how to work it.
Speaker 6: But then if you learn the centered on the track
Speaker 6: right and go a little bit slow and give just
Speaker 6: a little bit less juice, you can turn them corners.
Speaker 1: They just need a little bit more guidance.
Speaker 6: You got to teach him about people like George Soros, SoRs,
Speaker 6: who funds Black Lives matters, who funds the destruction of
Speaker 6: human beings, who's alive today. You have to teach him
Speaker 6: about cats like Epstein who forget him trying to have
Speaker 6: sex with young girls, You nasty bastard. But what about
Speaker 6: the Virgin Island suing you because of all the biological
Speaker 6: experiments that you were doing on black children and in
Speaker 6: Africa and the Virgin.
Speaker 1: And all them subsidiaries you set up.
Speaker 6: And what about your boy up there at the top,
Speaker 6: Mel Gibson, who's talking about whoop the whoopede woop is
Speaker 6: eating and having sex with babies and YadA YadA, YadA YadA.
Speaker 6: But then you turn around and they blame it on
Speaker 6: R Kelly and Pete Diddy.
Speaker 1: What is it? So you're saying shit rolls downhill, take
Speaker 1: the light off of them.
Speaker 3: But you go to camera too, say you know what
Speaker 3: that is to Malie. The chickens are coming home the
Speaker 3: roofs right now. A lot of these brothers like Diddy
Speaker 3: and not to get all into this stuff, but they
Speaker 3: thought they had a seat at the table at one time,
Speaker 3: and they are about to take the brunt of a
Speaker 3: lot of this stuff or either come up missing.
Speaker 1: Problem, beloved. I think it's more like we all been
Speaker 1: in the game. Yah, yeah, you have you have. The
Speaker 1: game will send you a bill.
Speaker 6: Like for me, only dated wealthy women for a long
Speaker 6: time because I sold black dick to Bary Black babies.
Speaker 1: That's the name of one of my books.
Speaker 6: Because every time I go turn the trick with old
Speaker 6: white bitch, I got to go get Shaquita some money because.
Speaker 1: Her son got killed. So I'm a whole you see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So my point is is that the game sends you
Speaker 6: a bill if you a player in the streets and
Speaker 6: you don't play bitches. Now you stuck in the last
Speaker 6: part of your life with a square bitch you can't stand.
Speaker 6: The game sends you a bill, Puffy, the game to
Speaker 6: send you a bill, pay it.
Speaker 1: The game sends everybody a bill. And last, but not least.
Speaker 6: And I reflect back to eight because I played his show,
Speaker 6: his radio stuff on the radio, his music. He was
Speaker 6: the first East Coast West coast prelude, we should have
Speaker 6: stopped it. Then he was the first one to try
Speaker 6: to with the DJ Quick and all that. If you
Speaker 6: think about it, that man went through hell trying to
Speaker 6: show that he can coexist with other people, trying to
Speaker 6: represent his tribe. Because back then you weren't able to
Speaker 6: just be crippled blood and just get away with it.
Speaker 6: Wasn't no cakewalks. Your motherfucking ass better be bout it
Speaker 6: about it. They culture in that uniform, You about it
Speaker 6: about it. So my point is this, I salute you.
Speaker 6: That's why I drove over here for sure, And I
Speaker 6: salute you, and I salute the owner of this coin
Speaker 6: studio because he stayed down with black people and poor people.
Speaker 6: The owner of the studio, I assume is either Native
Speaker 6: American or Caucasian, and I ain't never seen him around
Speaker 6: nobody but black people.
Speaker 1: He's trying to help.
Speaker 3: Oh no, let me old, let me stop you right there,
Speaker 3: shout out to the homeboy.
Speaker 1: Macca.
Speaker 3: Macca is a brother from out the ben the Pennanty.
Speaker 3: We would have him on the show. Actually, I wish
Speaker 3: you could have met him. Man, Macca is one of
Speaker 3: the most incredible individuals I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 3: That changed his circumstances. Man, and to fight the lass.
Speaker 3: He's just an incredible businessman. This ain't the only thing
Speaker 3: he got. He got some incredible stuff cracking man and
Speaker 3: brother actually invented the app. Not to get too.
Speaker 1: Far the thing.
Speaker 3: Brother actually and took the same walks of life that
Speaker 3: we didea. It took the same walk of life that
Speaker 3: we did.
Speaker 6: He was you know why because the cream always rises
Speaker 6: to the topic. Still sure and pressure makes the best diamond.
Speaker 6: So it could shed light in all directions.
Speaker 3: Hey, man, you know, I want to ask you something, Man,
Speaker 3: when we talk about positive black images, Man, you had
Speaker 3: a show on A and E. Why didn't they continue
Speaker 3: doing that? Because this is the stuff that people need
Speaker 3: to hear.
Speaker 6: Because black unity and unity of poor people is a crime.
Speaker 6: You can find Kitty Porno. You can find black on
Speaker 6: black murders getting killed on selfie while you're on your
Speaker 6: phone on there, but you can't find and not one
Speaker 6: piece maker la gang war segment on there.
Speaker 1: Unity of black people is a crime.
Speaker 6: That's why you don't hear no public enemy no more
Speaker 6: in music of that nature, because anything that's gonna enlighten
Speaker 6: the masses goes against what they want.
Speaker 1: You done. Have been in the meetings, they tell you, look,
Speaker 1: we need some shoot them up bang bang music. But
Speaker 1: can I tell you this quick story, real fast.
Speaker 3: Oh you got man, you man, you do your thing.
Speaker 6: Brother, I was in the pen. I was in the
Speaker 6: county jail, and a brother walked by. He was on
Speaker 6: his way to death row. He was a crip. I
Speaker 6: vaguely remember where he was from, but he was on
Speaker 6: swollen and I was a trustee in the hallway. And
Speaker 6: when the man walking, they yelled, the dead man walking,
Speaker 6: he's supposed to turn around. But because I worked up
Speaker 6: in high power, because I already had a high power
Speaker 6: K seventeen fifty for youngsters that don't know about that
Speaker 6: red wristband, you'll learn keep fucking around.
Speaker 1: The brother stopped and he said Malik, can I tell
Speaker 1: you a story?
Speaker 6: Now, mind, you're not supposed to talk to these people,
Speaker 6: but the deputies let them stop. He said, tell you
Speaker 6: a story to three minds. And I told the story
Speaker 6: that Jesse Jackson and my Nigga c Bone from five
Speaker 6: Dues Broadway bear witness that this is the truth.
Speaker 1: He said. I was in the store once before, and
Speaker 1: they sold mines.
Speaker 6: They had the White Mind, the Chinese Mind, and the
Speaker 6: Black Mind, and he.
Speaker 1: Said, Malik.
Speaker 6: I walked in the store and I asked the man
Speaker 6: how much you want for the White Mind. He said, oh,
Speaker 6: for that one, Malik, I'll take a million dollars. I said, well,
Speaker 6: that's relativity inexpensive. Being at the White Mind invented the Constitution,
Speaker 6: got a lot of history uneath they belt. So I
Speaker 6: shopped some more in this store, and I ran across
Speaker 6: the section that sold the Chinese Mind. So I asked
Speaker 6: the man in the store. I said, excuse me, sir,
Speaker 6: what do you want for the Chinese Mind? He said, oh,
Speaker 6: for Malik, for that one, I'll take two million dollars.
Speaker 6: I said, well, that's relatively inexpensive. Being at the Chinese
Speaker 6: event at the art of war, gunpowder stings of that nature.
Speaker 6: So I shopped some more in this store, and I
Speaker 6: ran across the section that sold the black and brown mind.
Speaker 6: So I asked the man in the stower preferable be speaking.
Speaker 6: I wanted to get a black one because it fit
Speaker 6: better for me. I said, I what you want for
Speaker 6: that black mind? He said, oh, my leak for that one.
Speaker 3: For that leak, I'll.
Speaker 1: Take twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 6: I said, you want a million for the white mine
Speaker 6: and their endeavor, two million for the Chinese mind and
Speaker 6: their endeavors and contributions. Why do you want so much
Speaker 6: for the black mind? He said, because the black mind
Speaker 6: hasn't been used as still in the box. Oh my god,
Speaker 6: mind is a terrible thing to waste. The game Gonna
Speaker 6: send you a bill.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's what we're seeing now? Man? Retribution?
Speaker 3: Right now you've seen? Is this a lot of people
Speaker 3: that got healed to pay?
Speaker 6: Man, We are in the waiting room of the hereafter
Speaker 6: as black people and oppressed people, and we are here
Speaker 6: to usher in the fall of oppressures.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 6: God, First, family, and whatever you do, do not surrender
Speaker 6: your firearms. You are an American citizen first, Amendment, Second Amendment,
Speaker 6: Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 1: Exercise it you are American.
Speaker 6: You built the fork, the game of Chess, the street light,
Speaker 6: real quick.
Speaker 1: There was three people.
Speaker 6: Ford, Motor Dude, mister Diesel, and there was mister Carver.
Speaker 6: Mister Carver made all the body parts for the car,
Speaker 6: the body, the stick shift. He got one hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty thousand. I think a little bit of studies that
Speaker 6: they use some of his shit in NASA right now,
Speaker 6: going plants. Then mister Ford he built the engine. See
Speaker 6: Ford and Diesel and Carver the peanut man was all friends.
Speaker 6: And then mister Diesel built the diesel part of the engine.
Speaker 6: But the stick shift, steering wheel, the cheap pad that
Speaker 6: you use for your computer was invented by a black man.
Speaker 6: The super soaker. Well, he invented the battery for the
Speaker 6: PRIs that you drive today. He lives in Atlanta. The
Speaker 6: Game of Chess, the street light. The brother who invented
Speaker 6: the heart transplant, of the blood transfusion that died because
Speaker 6: he couldn't go to a Caucasian hospital when he.
Speaker 1: Died of a heart issue.
Speaker 3: Ain't that deep man?
Speaker 6: The black man who invented the defibrillator. What contributions. Pressure
Speaker 6: makes the best diamondsaur can shed light in all direction.
Speaker 1: The game gonna shind you a bill. Man.
Speaker 3: You know, I thoroughly enjoyed having you won, hear man,
Speaker 3: that's indeed, And I'm a holler at you later on, man,
Speaker 3: because yes, that you deliver, man, is what is needed
Speaker 3: right now, because me being a person that's in media
Speaker 3: right now, man, I get kind of like, I get
Speaker 3: really disgusted with a lot of the stuff that's out
Speaker 3: there right now. Man. And it's like, the more ignorance
Speaker 3: you are, the more you seem to be rewarded.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 6: But that's good because the more ignorant you are, the
Speaker 6: more the game gonna send you a bigger bill. Let
Speaker 6: them do what they do. Every atom do what it's
Speaker 6: supposed to do at his.
Speaker 1: A point in time. Nothing happens. Coincidentally, you let them
Speaker 1: do what they do. You just do what you do.
Speaker 6: You do what you do because they can't stop this frequency.
Speaker 6: If they could, they would. So when you get these,
Speaker 6: I call it the circus. Just look at the circus.
Speaker 6: Don't let it affect you. Y'all keep pushing this. That's
Speaker 6: what's important. Everything else is a distruction. I say it
Speaker 6: every time. We don't need to get caught up and
Speaker 6: all that. That's all verbal gymnastics and and and and
Speaker 6: and lip and tongue wrestling and and and verbal and
Speaker 6: mental gymnastics. Suspend yourself in the space darted from to
Speaker 6: infinity and think bigger. Example, Opressa sitting look at this
Speaker 6: at the sun. Negro sitting look at the sun. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 6: it's hot. But got Opressa look at that sun and said, damn,
Speaker 6: I need to extrapolate some nuclear power from it. When
Speaker 6: the when NASA went to Africa, we of them countries
Speaker 6: and seeing our ancestors sitting on the mountain. They were
Speaker 6: sitting up on the mountain. They've been sitting there for
Speaker 6: about fifty thousand years. And NASA scientists walked up and said, hey,
Speaker 6: what are y'all looking at the star?
Speaker 1: Serious? You know, serious like.
Speaker 6: The The ancestor turned to him and said, no, we're
Speaker 6: looking at the shadow star behind.
Speaker 1: Serious with their naked eye.
Speaker 3: That's deep. Man.
Speaker 6: They got NASA high tech equipment and they barely see serious.
Speaker 6: Our ancestors sitting there smoking that weed. They told a
Speaker 6: white man, we ain't looking as serious. Were looking at
Speaker 6: the shadow behind.
Speaker 3: Him, drop the mic and walk on. That's it, and
Speaker 3: that's it right there. Man. We like to thank you
Speaker 3: man for tuning in and man, brother one of the
Speaker 3: most detailed brothers I've ever spoke to in my life.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he put your mind on some stings. Man, give
Speaker 4: you something to think about. And the like I said,
Speaker 4: shout out to just you know, shout out to everybody
Speaker 4: in the communities.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: We just try to reach just try to stay in
Speaker 4: tune with what's going on out there, because last thing
Speaker 4: we need is to be blinded by shit, you know
Speaker 4: for sure, and all the homies that's you know, in
Speaker 4: the trenches, and you know, because that's the direction right now.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, hopefully you naked through and that
Speaker 4: buil don't come do hopefully you can. You know, like
Speaker 4: I said, we've all been through some rough shit. Like
Speaker 4: you said, still you know, you got caught robbing they
Speaker 4: I done, got caught serving dope whatever, it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's it's you just got to learn how to get
Speaker 4: out of the roughness. That's all, you know what I
Speaker 4: thought about the day man, then we go leave. I
Speaker 4: was listening to mcavelly right right, he's having to public
Speaker 4: on my thing man, and that album is probably twenty
Speaker 4: years old now. M and I listened to some stuff
Speaker 4: Park said way back then. He said, Puffy getting bribed
Speaker 4: like a trick to hire some shit he did somenight ride.
Speaker 4: In fact, I said, damn boy, a lot of a
Speaker 4: lot of shit, h A lot of shit we see,
Speaker 4: you know, we watch programs or hear music from back then,
Speaker 4: kind of describe what's going on today.
Speaker 3: We got out and I'm fuck already, I said, damn.
Speaker 3: Park was like he's told on everybody that. So he
Speaker 3: said Puffy getting dribed like some shit he should have
Speaker 3: did somenight ride. In fact, Oh man, that's it man,
Speaker 3: We out of here.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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