1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: But all right, job. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: All across the USC Compton, Watts Bay to LA come 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: on to California day from Rowley to Valley. We represent 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: that Keller County. So if you're keeping it real on 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: your side of your town, you tune into Gainst the 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: Chronicles Coronic Goals. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: We gonna tell you how are we goals? 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: If I lie, my notes will girl like Pinocchio. 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: Gangs the Chronic Goals. 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: This is not your average shows. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't, Big Change 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: and Big spells the streets. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome to the gangst the Chronicles podcast the production 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: of iHeartRadio and Black Effect podcast Network. Make sure you 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael on your 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: front screen. Subscribed Against the Chronicles, leave a start rating 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: the comment. We like to welcome everyone to another episode 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: of The Gangster the Chronicles podcasts. I am big Steal 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: with my co host Yay y'all hearing right there with 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: the legendary Jia. There's been a bit numerous times we 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: talk about that, but that's a whole nother show with 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: a whole another floor that Ja has went around the world. 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: It's made its way kind of like it has made 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: his travels with two short biax And don't nobody ever 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: remembered who the originated that? Everybody else has claimed it 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: as they own. But I guess that's one of your 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: many contributions to hip hop. 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, you know shit, I ain't charged no niggas. 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: You know, I should be like Bootsy start going around 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 4: getting my money back for shit, but you know I 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 4: ain't tripping. 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: We ain't tripping, man. 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: I look at it as nigga, you know, niggas paying 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: imens and still even if they don't want to be uh, 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: you know, even if they don't want to recognize where 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: they got it from, it's all good. 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. But everybody knows this, specially the way you hit it, 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: because you hit it with a chill. Yeah, you know 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: what it is. Jeez made a whole living. I ain't 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: mad at them because guys and I like. 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 5: Jesus shit, pay me my money. 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: But it's all good. It's all good, yes, indeed. 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: Because you know we're all about peace and love tonight, man, 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: and I want to kind of get back to the basics, man, 47 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 3: because we have been talking about music a lot as 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: of late. But the show Wheel was called the gangst 49 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: the Chronicle. 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: They won't one of your you know, it wasn't not 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: that you know, niggas ain't fucking intellectual enough to speak 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: on current events and ship and being involved with hip hop. Uh, 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: seeing that a lot of motherfuckers was coming out with 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: lists about who was the you know, the greatest or 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: who was this and who was that, and a lot 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: of motherfuckers were excluding you know, a lot of comrades 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: that we had grew up with, you know, so we 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: just felt that we had to take the route, you know, 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: of getting into that conversation, but we don't want to 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: get a stray from really, you know, of seeing and 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: letting y'all know what's going on in the in the streets, 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: in the communities to let's not let's not say streets, 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: but just what's going on in our communities. 64 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 65 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: Across the country because me and eight y'all go see 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: us in y'all city in twenty twenty four April, we 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: would be in the ATA in Atlantic Georgia. More than 68 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: that to come we would be in Memphis, Tennessee, messing 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: with Project Petra. 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: It would just be it would just be a little 71 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: silly of us not to focus on the communities and 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: what's going going on. Because outside of hip hop and 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: music and Hollywood and movies and all that shit. Like 74 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: I always say when I make records, I like to 75 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: represent for the for the struggle. Niggas still the nigga 76 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 4: that's still caught up in the shit. So sometimes we 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: gotta address that what's still going on in the communities, 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: because it's a lot of niggas that are still out 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: here banging and representing, and not just on our aspect 80 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: of LA and Southern California and Northern California, West Coast, whatever. 81 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: But like I used to tell niggas, niggas was banging 82 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 4: everywhere I went. 83 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: It's across the country, Ohio, they banging in Chicago, Illinoise, 84 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: They're banging in Houston, Texas. 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: That's one thing. That's one thing we're gonna try to 86 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: do too. You know, when we go into these towns 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: or these places, when we start hitting the road with 88 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: the podcast. 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: We want to you know, we want to know what's 90 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: going on. 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 4: In the communities outside of of the stage and the 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 4: cameras and all that shit, just to you know, be 93 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 4: able to reflect on them communities were hitting, not to 94 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: just be focused on the niggas with the status or whatever. 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 5: But you know it's niggas is still struggling going. 96 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: On exactly, man, And we have somebody sitting with us tonight. 97 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Man. 98 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: I can't say enough about his value, the Los Angeles man, 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: and the things that he's done over the past two 100 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: maybe three. 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Decades now, yes, sir. 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: Decades, you know, mister Malik Spelman. I'll let him tell 103 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: what he does. He's the peacemaker. And anyone that's been 104 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: in LA or not just LA, but any place this 105 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: an urban area, you know, an urban inc live man 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: in our community. Man, it's hard to keep peace man, 107 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: with all the politics and everything's going on. Man, how 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: did you get into your line of work? Man? 109 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 6: Well, thank you very much and much love and respect 110 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 6: to you and brother A. You know, of course, one 111 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 6: of the catalysts that carried I speak collectively at this 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 6: very moment in regards to getting the efforts for a 113 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 6: piece during the peace treaty was his song that opened 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 6: up our radio show that stimulated the mindset of the 115 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 6: people because the music that he was playing was quite influential, 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 6: and it reached the consciousness of brothers in the streets 117 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 6: in such a way that you guys combined have touched 118 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 6: people in multiple ways that you will never know. So 119 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 6: when you get something like that and you get brothers 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 6: like yourself and him who were during that time that 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 6: was very critical for the survival of our race. You 122 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 6: guys weren't beating the war drum because there's different rhythms, 123 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 6: and there's different music and different sounds and symbols and 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 6: colors that activate black people. Although black it's not a people, 125 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 6: it's a condition. So when you got a brother that 126 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 6: was singing in them tones and then dealing with crisis 127 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 6: in the streets, you know, and high places, you never 128 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 6: know who you influence. So right now today, although we 129 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 6: did the peace thing, you know, I've been to three 130 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty gang related funerals. I've buried little kids 131 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 6: in boxes this big when me and my brother had 132 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 6: to beat the Paul barri because no one showed up, 133 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 6: I've done over two hundred gang I say peace treaties 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 6: because at the time that was the operative word, like 135 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: the word narrative, is the operative word now, But at 136 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 6: that time peace was a word that was either escalation 137 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 6: or de escalation word. 138 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: And now ever since then, you. 139 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: Know, peace really mean if you look at the acronymys 140 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 6: powered education always correct errors, you know what I'm saying. 141 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 6: So once we get the power to education, we can 142 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 6: always correct the errors of our people. So what I 143 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 6: decided to do, by God's grace and his grace alone 144 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 6: and with the blessings of the people, God inspired me 145 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 6: to come up with a thing called the understanding, getting 146 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 6: in understanding Because youngsters today, they was born during wartime, 147 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 6: so they're not familiar with peace, you know what I'm saying. 148 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 6: They was born in the eighties or the late nineties. 149 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 6: We've been at war in America for over fifty for 150 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 6: thirty years now, you know. And I oftentimes tell people 151 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 6: it's like, it's a damn shame that I've lost more 152 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 6: friends on the Crenshaw Strip that they've lost in all 153 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: the wars on the Gods. 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Strip, even up to this very day, you know what 155 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean. 156 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 6: I've been I've noticed that there's been fifteen thousand just 157 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 6: gang related funerals in Los Angeles alone, and some of 158 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 6: those people potential doctors, theologian, scientists, rappers, engineers, and philosophers. 159 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 6: So when people ask me what is it that you do, 160 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 6: I just want to set the reconstrate because there's a 161 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 6: lot of malarkey coming across the internet in regards to 162 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 6: the efforts and the image of black men and Los 163 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 6: Angeles in particular, which reflects around the world, and as 164 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 6: a result of that, they think that all of us 165 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 6: as wild ass niggas and rob and kill. Absolutely not emphatically, No, 166 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 6: that's not the case, because we got strong individuals like 167 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 6: yourself and eight that are personifying their image on a 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 6: balance level to be able to convey your message to 169 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 6: the hood and keep your license to operate, as well 170 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 6: as convey a. 171 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: Message of hope and prosperity to the future. 172 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, man Wild And I couldn't have said that 173 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: more eloquently. He broke it down. And I think that's 174 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: important because one of the elements that you mentioned was 175 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: the music. And you know, I get a lot of 176 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: people asking me, why is the show called The Gangster Chronicles. 177 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: You don't bang and and this and that. No, it's 178 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: gangsters all across the world. You know, it's gangsters all 179 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: across the world. And when you start thinking about the 180 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: definition of a gangster, I think we've kind of minimalized that, 181 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: you know, because there are several things in a gangster. 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: It's gangster the brother that wake up every morning at 183 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: four o'clock when it's rain and cold. He don't feel 184 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: like it to go go to work because he gotta feed. 185 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: It's three or four kids in the house and you know, 186 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: put a roof over their head, and he gets up rain. 187 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: He'll sleep the snow and no despite how he's feeling physically. 188 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: That's gangster. The brother that comes out of prison and decides, 189 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna change my life and I'm opening up a barbershop. 190 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: That's gangster to me. Anyone that defives the eyes said 191 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: it forth in front of him is gangster. And when 192 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: you talk about the music like you just did, music 193 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: is a very spiritual thing, Yes, sir, it reaches our soul. 194 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I'm not going off, but this 195 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: is a parallelt what we talk about. You know, everybody's 196 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: been talking about scarfaces, tiny desk. You know how he 197 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: had the live instrumentation there and he was just spitting 198 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: the ghetto poetry. I don't even want to call a rap. 199 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 3: It was ghetto poetry, you know, and it just made 200 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 3: you feel a certain way because music is spiritual the 201 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: same way. Well, when you in church and service on Sunday, 202 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: how they get up there, they singing, man, and the 203 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: sisters get to slap, and they tambourines and they dance. Man, 204 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: It's an energy, and that energy can either be positive 205 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: or negative. If you're out there preaching destruction, it can 206 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: be negative. You're talking about a crucial period elite in 207 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: the late eighties early nineties, whenmusic was just going to 208 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: a different place. And see one thing that deal with 209 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: his music, as did a lot of other brothers, a 210 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: couple other brothers, a few special brothers. They not only 211 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: showed the pros and glorified it like okay, I'm getting 212 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: away out sold fifty chickens and I got away clean. 213 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: You know, killed a couple of police officer in the process. 214 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: He talks about the bad stuff that happen. I got smoked, 215 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: I got went to jail, this happened to home, he 216 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: got killed. How influential do you think music was? 217 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 6: Well to have someone and again not to just use 218 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 6: the brother as an example, but having someone like him. 219 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 6: You know, you have to speak to the people in 220 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 6: the language in which they understand, you know what I mean. 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 6: And at that time, the way that they were able 222 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 6: to convey their message of experiences based on living in Compton, 223 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 6: South Central and Watts, it had to come in such 224 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 6: a way that they can captivate the imagination of the 225 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 6: American people. So oftentimes his personal experience that he had 226 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 6: was conveyed through his music because that's what he was 227 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 6: told to do by his tribe from Tragnu, whatever tribe 228 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 6: that he's from. So when you get that type of 229 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 6: inspiration and then you going to those studios, you can 230 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 6: only if it ain't in you, it's not gonna come 231 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 6: out you you know what I mean. So at that time, 232 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 6: there was really no voice in South Central Watson, Compton, 233 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 6: you know, him and a couple other brothers that was 234 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 6: putting it down and they spoke of what they knew 235 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 6: at that time, and the beats represented that particular period 236 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 6: of time. Now fast forward to this day, you get 237 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 6: a lot of stuff that's on the radio, but it 238 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 6: doesn't reflect growth and development or enlightenment, you see. And 239 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 6: there's no offense to them brothers because I don't do music. 240 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: I do people. I do human beings. You know what 241 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 242 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 6: I could give a rabbit's ass about where you're from, 243 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 6: where you come from, and I'm definitely look at me closely. 244 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 6: I'm definitely not interested in your tough guy story. I 245 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 6: done ran with the Tony Bogars, the baby gangsters, the 246 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 6: whole gamut of real live brothers that accepted the challenge 247 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 6: to change, and I came out of old folksome level four. 248 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: I was in corkorand four house in Solano's Level four. 249 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 6: Old folksome up there in them yards with them brothers, 250 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 6: enlightening from them two twelves, that that blue note, that BGF. 251 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: Car, stuff that you don't know nothing about. 252 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 6: So to all you youngsters out there thinking that this 253 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: is a tourist attraction and you're a tourists, then white 254 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 6: folks got something for you mine. So if you're not 255 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 6: familiar with the eat to E ratios, you know, your 256 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 6: earnings versus your economic income or the ETE ratio when 257 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 6: it comes to to like, for example, white people, for 258 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 6: every fifty dollars that we spend, they spend two hundred 259 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 6: on education. You know, see what I'm saying, so you 260 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 6: got to know the ratios in your own biological existence 261 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 6: and know to draw the line, because they say, what 262 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 6: is knowledge. Knowledge is to know the ledge of something 263 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 6: before you fall off. So today's youngsters, man, they just 264 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 6: need to be put in the right direction, because it's 265 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 6: really the crips and bloods and the lad a lot 266 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 6: of fuck with them all f thirteen's eight teen streets. 267 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 6: We done did pieces with them. I done did pieces 268 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 6: with with with with the forty six folk six is 269 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 6: hot Dog and them when the ventished shows name a 270 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 6: Negro or successful world worship, did eat Deity in Los 271 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 6: angles and not unfucked with them name of neighborhood because 272 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 6: there's no fear. I walked through the valley to Shadow 273 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 6: with death and fear no evil. I sold two thousand 274 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 6: gallons of PCP. My body burnt up from selling water. 275 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 6: I'm not no spring chicken. I just love black people 276 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 6: and poor people. Don't get it twisted. I was a 277 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 6: d number. I just happened to be the type of 278 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 6: nigga that got good hair and don't care about nothing. 279 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: But poor folks. 280 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 6: Because madea's at the bus stop shitting on herself. So 281 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 6: when they get to talking up. That's why I came 282 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 6: onto this show, because this show will saving more lives 283 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 6: and a cure for cancer. 284 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: So when I come on that, I wanted to. 285 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 6: Let the record reflect that his brothers out there like us. 286 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 6: That's really pushing the line. In Los Angeles, everything is 287 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 6: not foolishness and bullshit. 288 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: And that's what we tend to stray away from. 289 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: I think. 290 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: The youth, you know, as far as the communities, the neighborhoods, 291 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: it's hard to try to reach, you know what I'm saying, 292 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: when the when the mind is young, my fascinating and 293 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: I don't even want to call it a fascination with 294 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: you know, claiming the hood. 295 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: I grew up a normal kid. 296 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: In the beginning, I thought, I did you know, uh, 297 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: like I said, single moms in the house. You know, 298 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: I still had a connection with my pops. You know 299 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: a lot of people say when the home is fatherless, 300 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: that's when you. 301 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Can you know. 302 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 4: But I think my mom did a good job up 303 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: until those adolescent years when you know, sometimes teenagers get 304 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 4: naive to shit, or even though you're in a situation 305 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: where you middle class, you know, we I grew up 306 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: in Compton in Spooktown. 307 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Uh, moms worked. 308 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: Me and my older sister, But it just seems like 309 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: the neighborhood. 310 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: Life is that was it. 311 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: You know, you have a lot of access like still 312 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: your son played football, my son played you football, got 313 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: trainers and all of this and that. But back then, yeah, 314 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: a lot of shit was n not affordable for a 315 00:16:52,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: single parent. Walking through the neighborhoods going to sh school 316 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: as a youth, you get me. You start seeing the signs, 317 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: cars pull up on you going to the bus stop 318 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: to school, dudes asking you where you're from. You know, 319 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 4: I guess it was the thought of unity for me. 320 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 4: It wasn't the all the red and blue rags and whatever. 321 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: It was a shit. 322 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: It's a gang of niggas over here like me. You 323 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: feel me. I don't see no, you know, you know, 324 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 4: not too many fathers around and carrying, you know, loving 325 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: family situations, and some of them might have been good, 326 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: But growing up in the hood is was our connection 327 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: to claim the neighborhood. 328 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: You feel me. 329 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: I had no intention of trying to become something else 330 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: at that time. 331 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: All I saw was. 332 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: Selling crack on coradon or and or hanging with the homies. 333 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 4: That was my family connection at home, everybody was on 334 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 4: their own shit, you get me. My sister did her 335 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: own thing. I was over here in the hood, moms 336 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 4: was working, You get me. So I think a lot 337 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: of youth today are looking for that. 338 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: You get me. That unity is what a lot. 339 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: Of motherfuckers, uh uh start claiming or relatives or cousins 340 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: who grow up in the neighborhood and that connection and shit. 341 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: But I don't think you know, we realize what that 342 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 4: in with that what you inherit when you start claiming 343 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: the neighborhood because you gonna see some shit, You're gonna 344 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 4: see some drugs, You're gonna see some niggas dying, You're 345 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 4: gonna get caught up in some shootouts or whatever. So uh, 346 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: not having opportunities to me is what you know, It 347 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: is what get a lot of young niggas to start 348 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: claiming the neighborhood or growing up into the culture of it. 349 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: You get me. 350 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: And when you living in Compton Long Beach La Watts 351 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 4: at that time, when I started claiming the hood in 352 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: the middle eighties and shit in the late eighties, that's it. 353 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 4: That shit was it. It was fascinating, and you know 354 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying it wasn't like, oh it wasn't. 355 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: It was nothing else. What else was we supposed to do? 356 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 3: You know what's funny about you seeing that in malite? 357 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: Maybe you could speak on this. You remember before Reagan 358 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 3: got in the office, we had all these programs after 359 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: school to where you can go to the gyms, the 360 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 3: local gyms and play basketball. You had a lot more parks. 361 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: You see brothers outside shooting hoop. You see had more 362 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: kids playing baseball. And it is just something because I 363 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: noticed that the other day. I was talking to one 364 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: of my homies from Compton, and I said, man, you 365 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: remember when we was kids. Man, that you can go 366 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: outside and see people playing at parks. You can go 367 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: up to the rec center. Everybody was headed to the 368 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: rec center to play basketball. They had something going on. 369 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: They had an activity. Some brothers was even able to 370 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: get jobs once they turned sixteen. I remember I couldn't wait. 371 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: I used to be on my mama's ass to fill 372 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: out my little paperwork to get a summer job. Right 373 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: because you had a little summer job. I think it 374 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 3: might have paid you two fifty over the summer. But 375 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: she was happy that you want to bost school clothes 376 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: with that money, and it kind of gave you some 377 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: purpose when you spent your own money on something, you know, 378 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: because I always I discovered I liked things, so I 379 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: always had me a little paper route. I cut grass, 380 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: shovel snow, whatever I could do to make some money. 381 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: But I had a mission. How big of an impact 382 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: do you think that was on the hood by them 383 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: cutting them programs up? 384 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 6: Well, it was very impactful to this in the sense 385 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: that I wrote for the Los Angeles I wrote several 386 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 6: hundred articles for them, and I wrote one of many articles, 387 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 6: one called. 388 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: Mama, why did you move on this block? 389 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 6: And basically it was giving you a scenario in which 390 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 6: like a lady moved from Texas and she moved to 391 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 6: say Santa Fe and Tucker, and she don't know that 392 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 6: it's the trees is beautiful, The school system looks nice. 393 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 6: But you put your son in that gang. You understand 394 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. You put your son in that gang, 395 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 6: and then when they get to that neighborhood. I don't 396 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 6: like to call the little brothers in gangs. I said, 397 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 6: for the purpose of conversation, but those are escalation words 398 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 6: for the police and the system to write checks and 399 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 6: cost the right people. So when you see brothers and sisters, 400 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 6: that's in these communities that they enjoy dwelling in, jumping 401 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 6: off like we grew up in the area where you 402 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 6: jump off the roof onto a pissy mattress and kissing, kissing, 403 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 6: spinding the bottle and all that. But these kids are 404 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 6: proud to be from the tribe that they're at. So 405 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: if you're from Santana Block, or from Sixties, or from 406 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 6: Faties or from Compton traged New to Spook Town, you're 407 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 6: proud of that area because that's what you know. So consequently, 408 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 6: your tribe has tribal issues with other tribes because we 409 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 6: grew up under the hospeclities, these colonizers as hot Feels 410 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 6: and McCoy's, you see what I'm saying. So when you 411 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 6: get a situation like that and then you throw deprivation 412 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 6: in there and lack of education, that's why it's important 413 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 6: to know what curriculum is taught in your kid's school 414 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 6: and who is the curriculum writer. He might have been 415 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 6: a Confederate. So the education that we receive in the 416 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 6: ghetto is different. In education, they get a West of supulvita. 417 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 6: So when you see these little brothers and sisters proud 418 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 6: of their neighborhood, like he said he was proud of 419 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 6: his name. 420 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: He enjoyed it. 421 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 6: That was his peer group if he had to go 422 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 6: to jury tribe, those are the people they said, we're 423 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 6: gonna judge you by a committee of peers that you're 424 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 6: familiar with. And that's what they're talking about. So they 425 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 6: take the pride out of that, and then you throw 426 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 6: a monkey wrench of confusion into this shit, and then 427 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 6: you start taking see Ronald Reagan and Oliver northol on 428 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 6: them bought crack cocaine to the neighborhood, oh for sure. Okay, 429 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 6: with the with the contrast and that Salvadorian brothers and 430 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 6: sisters and and and and and and built their space 431 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 6: shuttle off of that. We know it's principalities and spiritual 432 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 6: wickedness and high places. But as intellectual giants, we don't 433 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 6: have time to take people through the step states and 434 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 6: degrees of how we got to where we got to. 435 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: Motherfucker, you know how we got it. 436 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: You put us here through slavery, You rape, robbed and 437 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 6: murdered us. You know what you did and were not 438 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 6: pointing no finger. We still got compassion for you. So 439 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 6: this ain't no save the people show. This is to 440 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 6: let you know that there's some strong entities walking in 441 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 6: these streets that protect and respect black women, that protect 442 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 6: and respect the neighborhood. 443 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: Because you know, let me tell you something, big steal 444 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: a gang member. 445 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 6: Just don't kill another gang member because you killed his homie. 446 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: It's deeper than that. 447 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 6: And as intellectual spiritual giants, if we dwelt deeper into it, 448 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 6: and see, wait a minute, because of blood, he killed 449 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 6: that nigga, because do kill somebody black, but it's categorized 450 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: as he was from the hood. No, but deep in 451 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 6: your mind you saying to yourself, man, you killed my 452 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 6: nego black. So that's why Couz killed blood because that's 453 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 6: his relatives. But we're not here to have a verbal 454 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 6: gymnastics about the conditions of our people. 455 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: You know where the fuck you left us. 456 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 6: We letting you know that pressure makes the best diamond, 457 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 6: so it can shed light on directions. And you got 458 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 6: gatekeepers like me that's at the door that's gonna make 459 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: sure I support everything black because black is not a people, 460 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 6: it's a condition. 461 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 3: As deep you know, I want to ask you, man, 462 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 3: because you are very well spoken and you do make 463 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: you did mention that you've done time in the system. 464 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: How were you when you got in the system. 465 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 6: I was twenty one with no phonies that went in 466 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 6: there for robbing the police station. 467 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: Hold on robbing the police station. 468 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a famous crime that I went went 469 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 6: to prison for and in the city of Los Angeles 470 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: on every news channel and all that kind of cook 471 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 6: PCP and shootouts. I ran with the name of Gower. 472 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 6: I know little Chimi and fuck with him. I don't 473 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 6: fuck with with Peter Cody and John Boy and white 474 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 6: Boy Buddy and you name it. 475 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: I done ran the gamut. 476 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: You talk about that PCP, man, that's almost like the 477 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: ghetto recipe in the family tradition. Man, that recipe has 478 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 3: passed down like by generations. Man, And this is funny. 479 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: It don't never escape the black community. 480 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: Well you know the acronym PCP. Stance. 481 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 6: Will please consider the plot. You know what I'm saying. 482 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 6: I done been looped off that shit from just smelling it. 483 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 6: But I don't really want to expound on that and 484 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 6: my shortcomings because I owe the community and an enormous 485 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 6: apology I'm the negro that's responsible for our people eating 486 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 6: out the trash. I'm the person that's responsible for our 487 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 6: kids not going to school because I participated in this 488 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 6: system and these oppressors foolishness, and I take this responsibility 489 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 6: for what I did, and on behalf of all my 490 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 6: homies that's not here, all my homies that can't speak 491 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 6: for themselves, and all their sons that's growing up with fathers, 492 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 6: and to the sisters that's been disrespected. On behalf of 493 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 6: all of us as players the pimpster, the ones that 494 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 6: made the sexy reds to us through the experience of 495 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 6: of of of having them involved in our lives. 496 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna apologize to. 497 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 6: The young homies for teaching this gang shit on behalf 498 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 6: of the brothers that's no longer. 499 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of people feel that our 500 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: culture and our music is a part of the destruction 501 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 4: of the youth. How you see niggas still gang banging 502 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: and claiming the hoods and all that. So you feel 503 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 4: responsible for starting that foundation of showing because do you 504 00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: feel like what you did talk the youth coming up 505 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 4: that same path to do it? Because we still got 506 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 4: niggas in the hood going to pin we still got 507 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: niggas selling shirms still and dope and claiming the hood 508 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 4: like it's the most important thing in the world. 509 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Well, what I take responsibility for. 510 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 6: And my verbal public apology was not an individual apology based. 511 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: On my own shortcomings. 512 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 6: It was an apology based on a collective group of 513 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 6: errors that we made as black men from South Central Wise, Comton, Pomona, 514 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 6: and beyond Chicago, that we bid into for the purpose 515 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 6: of survival. As an individual, I'm totally cognizant of the 516 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 6: fact that we have perpetuated this, this foolishness in Sutuay 517 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 6: that has come down to our children. 518 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: I can't control that. 519 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 6: That's America's job, okay, But I can identify with the 520 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 6: fact that there are people like ourselves who know that 521 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 6: one we take responsibility for the contributions that we made. 522 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 6: If I broke Miss Johnson's window and ran when I 523 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 6: was little Miss Johnson, I apologized to you. If I 524 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 6: sold dope to the community, and I know that I 525 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 6: sold dope and a bunch of other cats sold dope 526 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 6: and they didn't get a chance to say they apologize 527 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 6: that God first into the community. That's what I'm trying 528 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 6: to implement because it's gonna always go see black, everybody 529 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 6: that's black, its not your brother. It's a lot of 530 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 6: niggas doing stuff under the stolen identity, and then they 531 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 6: blaming it on black people. We're black, but it's a 532 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 6: lot of nigga foolishness that's outside has nothing to do 533 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 6: with us, oh love. So we have to start taking 534 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 6: responsibility and separating the two entities when it comes to 535 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 6: who's doing what, because us we're real men, We're really 536 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 6: trying to help our community. So when we start making 537 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 6: these apologies collectively as individuals and then taking responsibility for 538 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 6: the most minuscule amount of dirt that you did to 539 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 6: black people, it speaks collectively for us all. But as 540 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 6: far as the perpetuation of what's going on today, that's 541 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 6: America's problem is gentrification. See I wrote an article once 542 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 6: before called chemicals and Biological Weapons of mass Destruction hit 543 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 6: the Inner City to the President of the United States, 544 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 6: I wasn't talking about no bombs. I'm talking about that 545 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 6: crack cocaine, then big old pistols with them switches on there. 546 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: That HIV and that AIDS and all that shit. You 547 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. 548 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 6: So there's a different approach when when the brother made 549 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 6: his record, it may not have been a direct apology 550 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 6: to the black community, but it was an enlightenment with 551 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 6: an apology attached because it enlightened people like myself. So 552 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: they'll never be a way for us to apologize for 553 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 6: the oppressor's bullshit. Like I tell a lot of youngsters, 554 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 6: they say, man, I live on Rosecran. 555 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 5: You do. 556 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 6: Well, who is General Rosecran? So we gotta teach our 557 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 6: children different. Oh God blood, I'm on I live on 558 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 6: Rose Grand. General Rose Grand was an oppressor. That's deep, man, 559 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 6: you see what I'm saying. Then they say, well, you know, 560 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 6: I drank Kor's beer with Chors, wasn't oppressor. Every oppressor 561 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 6: that was an oppressor got a beer named after them 562 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 6: on street Picco Payo. He was the first black Mexican 563 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 6: American a governor or something. So we have to give 564 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 6: our people different scenarios to let them know. The housing 565 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 6: projects was built by the best black architect that was 566 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 6: ever lived. 567 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: I forget his name, that built all the Hollywood shit. 568 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: A brother, that's not the stuff that they teach us. 569 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 6: They're not gonna teach you that They're not gonna tell 570 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 6: you who the Crenshaw family is. They're not gonna tell 571 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 6: you that the DWP is a private company not owned 572 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 6: by the state. They're not gonna tell you that. They're 573 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 6: not gonna tell you about how the black people and 574 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 6: Watts and the lad that's in the pipes underneath the water, 575 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 6: and how they got all the different gentrification going on there, 576 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: running the brothers out of them community. 577 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: They're not gonna tell you that. 578 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: You know what's deeper box you're seeing that, man, I 579 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: was coming from I was coming from Inglewood one day 580 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: and I was driving down a period with my wife 581 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: and I took a wrong turn. I was trying to 582 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: go visit one of my partners over there, and you 583 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 3: know how you turn up and the Watts, you can 584 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: get lost a little bit. I wound up on this 585 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: one street. Man. I kept driving because it wasn't no 586 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: way to get out I was. We had to come 587 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: to the end of the coda. Second turned around. I 588 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: saw a bunch of construction taking place, like new stuff 589 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: out there, man, Like they were building buildings over there. 590 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: And when I did go to my partner's house, that 591 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: house had been in their family for maybe two generations. 592 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: When his grandma first came from Tennessee. That's where she 593 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: bought at, right, And he was telling me, yeah, we 594 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: about to sell this some people and came over. Man, 595 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: they offered us seven hundred thousand at that time, which 596 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: is way over the value and everything. And I noticed 597 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: how they're shipping all the brothers and everybody out there 598 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: to the desert now and telling them you could take 599 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: your section. They didn go out to land cash. 600 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: And them caster Yeah, they tried to. I think they 601 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: tried to do something in Moreno Valley when they were 602 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: trying to tear down the projects and send everybody out 603 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: to there. 604 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: Well, what they're doing is now they're taking their land back. 605 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: That's prime real estate right there. You can see how 606 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: they cleaned up downtown. Downtown is actually a place worth visiting. 607 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: I remember when I first came to California in eighty eight, 608 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: eighty seven, it was like homeless central down there, you know, downtown. 609 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: But now you go down there, it's nice. You know, 610 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: my son got an apartment down there. Man, it's plush. 611 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: It's called gentrification. 612 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. But if you notice they shipping us out to 613 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: the desert now, buying houses from taking them from them 614 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: in some cases making them offers they can't refuse, right, 615 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 3: so they setting off their land man not really negotiating, 616 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 3: not knowledgeable about the whole process, But I said, what's 617 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: going on? So pretty soon you think about it. You 618 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: got the bounty hunters over there, You got grape streets 619 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: over there, right, all these neighborhoods man based on one location, right, 620 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: those locations may not be there in another ten years. 621 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: I think another two years, two you give it that soon. 622 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, because what happens is all the people that they're 623 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 6: running out of these areas. 624 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: Did they tear Jordan down here? They got new housing 625 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: over there. They toward criteria that you gotta get in one. 626 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 6: If your son get caught smoking weed or writing on 627 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 6: the wall being an adolescent, you're not there. And without 628 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 6: without even having to mention it, we know we not there. 629 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 6: It's a rap for that. Then brothers and sisters is 630 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 6: holding on and still trying to do things, my boy 631 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 6: Dow and his family, handing out food and whatnot. But 632 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 6: what happens is they move us out to these other 633 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 6: areas on the quake faults line with the earthquake line 634 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 6: is Fontana, San Bernardino that's where the earthquake the fault 635 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 6: line is, so they move us there. But by the 636 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 6: time we get to hypothetically speak in Fontana, if we 637 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 6: try to go to the next city over, Fontana then 638 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 6: called them and told them to raise the rent, so 639 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 6: they push us from here. Then we push out there 640 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 6: at thirteen hundred dollars a month, three bedroom, three bath, 641 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 6: and then the next city over, it's like, hey, the 642 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 6: Negroes is coming. 643 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: So then they raised the rent. 644 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 6: So that's what keeps our people in a perpetual homeless situation. 645 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 6: And if you're not, we'll see my crew and not 646 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 6: Daou and a bunch of other brothers. Even with Big U, 647 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 6: we went out there and bought land in Adelanto. A 648 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 6: lot of my partners from Swans. We bought land. Man 649 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 6: in the desert. Now you look up, they got the 650 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 6: bullet train coming, then they got the other train coming. 651 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 6: And I can show you on my phone right now 652 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 6: where a piece of land that I spent ten acres. See, 653 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 6: we have to be there's no simple solutions, big Brothers, 654 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 6: only intelligent choices. And one of the intelligent choices that 655 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 6: we have to make is to remember. 656 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: That a man with no land has no voice. 657 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: That's real talk. You dig. 658 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 6: And when our parents came out here from the plantation 659 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 6: and Jim Crow and all that, Grandpa got a nail 660 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 6: and a piece of wood and a plot and he 661 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 6: made something happen. 662 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: So but but it and you can put it in 663 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: the links. 664 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 6: We're gonna show where you can get land for two 665 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 6: hundred dollars down, no credit check, and buy it in 666 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 6: the desert. 667 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: We definitely need that link, brother, yes sir, because here's 668 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: what happened. 669 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna be very short withed not to be 670 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 6: a compulsive talker thinking, but I'm trying. 671 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 3: Got here. We need this information. It's important. 672 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 6: But you can get land for two hundred down, no money, 673 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 6: no credit check, no nothing. Right now, the land that 674 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 6: I spent for ten thousand for ten acres, that's nine 675 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 6: something thousand square feet. The average house is fifteen hundred 676 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 6: square feet, three bedroom, three bath, right, I can put 677 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 6: a water well on there. I can have eighteen horses 678 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 6: in some motion. All of America's wars, Israel's wars, Palestine 679 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 6: and Egypt, Africa, you name it. Everything is fought over 680 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 6: what land. Hoods has fought over what land? Cowboys and 681 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 6: Indians has fought over what land, and the only person. 682 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: That can make land is God. 683 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 6: So I'm telling young people today, don't go buy them 684 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 6: twenty six inch rims, play Boy. 685 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: You don't need no Rolex, you need a roller Dex. 686 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: But that's and I don't want to say immaturity, but 687 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 4: that's the mark of. 688 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 5: The youth and the situation of feeling important. 689 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: You get me if I got the rims, if I 690 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: got the motherfucking New Kicks, if I got the mother 691 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 4: for you know, what way do you reach the youth 692 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 4: if they've always been unreachable? 693 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: You lead by example, meaning that. 694 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 6: When you see the youth today, you don't come in 695 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 6: telling them what to do. You expound on the ideas 696 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 6: that they have because it's their turn. I'm not expecting 697 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 6: them to go back to the era when Foods is 698 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 6: riding up on beach cruisers with shotguns, blowing your head 699 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 6: off and riding off because they're in a different area. 700 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 6: So you gotta understand what thing about the youth today. 701 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 6: They got adult problems. They got light bills, phone bill 702 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 6: four hundred a month, Netflix bill four hundred a month. 703 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: Mama want them out the house. 704 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 6: They got grown folks bills it ain't like with me 705 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 6: and you was growing up a bowl of cereal in 706 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 6: the flinchstones and get your ass up for coming home late. 707 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 6: These kids got kiar bills, They got the rent eighteen 708 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 6: hundred a month. They got a baby at one steak 709 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 6: and the stow at vance is eighteen dollars. Let me 710 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 6: give you another perfect example. You go into Ralph Savan's 711 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 6: a superior. You see the people coming out. They add 712 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 6: of shape, they breathing hard. They fucked up. 713 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 5: On the walker. 714 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 6: They eye again, pajama pants on with the slides and 715 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 6: the shoes. 716 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: Young girls ain't getting the motown kick no more. 717 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 6: They learn how to have some dignity in practice class 718 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 6: distinction before you get on the stage. But then you 719 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 6: go to Whole Foods. Everybody got on due balance. Baby 720 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 6: right here jumping into Vovo smiling. They get brown paper 721 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 6: bags because then plastic bags is to hold all that 722 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 6: sugar that poison. You see the difference. Their mindset is different. 723 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 6: So we have to not give up hope and teach 724 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 6: our people what to do. By example, when you find 725 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 6: a dirty glass, you put a clean one beside it 726 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 6: to give them a choice, because we're gonna need that army, 727 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 6: your snotty. 728 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: Nose, trevoring in with them knuckles we need them, we 729 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: need them. 730 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 6: But if you look at that research that that Jewish 731 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 6: woman said it in front of their council the other day. 732 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 6: She said, the biggest threat to Israel and I got 733 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 6: a gang of Jewish brothers and sisters that disagree with this. 734 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: She said, the biggest threat to America to. 735 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 6: Israel is not a moss it is not Al Qaeda, 736 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 6: it ain't it ain't COVID. It is the young black 737 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 6: people in America. Look it up. 738 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: And she was in Burbank. She was in Israel's at 739 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: a council. 740 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 6: Where they got intellectual giants, social scientists, and that woman 741 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 6: stood up and you can google it right now and said, 742 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 6: the biggest threat to the state of to the country 743 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 6: of Israel, the state of Israel. People that we support 744 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 6: is us. You know why, because you've you busting that 745 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 6: window in Beverly Hills. They say you're doing home invasions, 746 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 6: you're snatching chains, because you're messing with their well being. 747 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: That's why we have to teach our children to eat to. 748 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 6: Eat ratios, economics versus earnings, education versus entertainment, and if 749 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 6: you don't give them a ratio. There's no common denominator 750 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 6: from the georg extrapolator draw from. 751 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 3: M You know what I see as the common denominator, Man, 752 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 3: it's poverty when you don't give a person a choice 753 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: or make them feel hopeless, and they have a feeling 754 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: of hopelessness. 755 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, because's got excess. 756 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 4: Everybody don't have the mentality to. 757 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 5: Blunt change exact. 758 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: It's when you pour eight you can't see nothing. I remember, 759 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 3: I grew up on the east side of Cleveland, and 760 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 3: like you made a comment about La, La is very deceptive. 761 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: You got the palm trees. It's actually nice when you 762 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 3: come here. If you look at the average street in 763 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: South Central, it's a nice community compared to somewhere in Cleveland, 764 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 3: where you got a bunch of dirt plots, empty apartment 765 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 3: buildings with the windows boarded up, and then you no 766 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 3: bottles stuck in the ground. It's just different than my 767 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 3: right beat. It's a little different because you can see 768 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 3: the property right there, right. I had friends that would 769 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 3: stay in the apartment buildings, them abandoned buildings, they whole families, 770 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 3: extension cord out the window, going to the going to 771 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: the pole, and they in there just like they're supposed 772 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 3: to be there. All right, homie, I'll see you later, 773 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: he jumping off, moving the board. 774 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 5: And going on there is still crazy when. 775 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: You have it's the truth. I'm just being real, dug. 776 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 5: When you have no bullshit and you being. 777 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 3: You hopeless bro, and you don't have no money. And 778 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 3: this dude around the counter, man, your mama seeing you 779 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 3: there because she got a line of credit at the 780 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: liquor store a dog. And you'd see him open up 781 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: that door and lift that little tray up and he 782 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 3: got all the little bundles, and you get that thought 783 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 3: in your head. Man, my stomach growling, Man, my mama, 784 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: don't send me up here with this, you know, to 785 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 3: get two dollars worth of blooney and the slice of 786 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 3: you know, some loaf of bread. 787 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: Hard times make bad choices, and. 788 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 3: You going there. 789 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 5: Man. 790 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 3: I remember the first time my book Somebody Dog, it 791 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 3: was because I was hungry and I got away with it. 792 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: So it made me go book Somebody again. And if 793 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 3: those didn't know, no booking is robbing. Somebody made me 794 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 3: go back. 795 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: Again and again and again to. 796 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 3: The man at the Delhi around the corner. His employee 797 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 3: called the police and they pulled up to my mama's house. 798 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 3: I remember they pulled up there like yesterday and they 799 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: said that, okay, which one of these kids is. I 800 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 3: was out there with my friends. Guess what he was 801 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 3: doing eating? We wouldn't. I wasn't stealing money. I was 802 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: stealing food, right, We out there eating, all me and homies, 803 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 3: just a big pile here. Y'all want something? 804 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: You want something? 805 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 3: We eating? Dude looked at me and said, no, what was 806 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 3: none of them? And he knew you know why, because 807 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 3: he knew my mama. And I thank God for that dude, 808 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 3: because if I would have winter, I'd have become indoctrinated 809 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 3: in the system at that time. If that dude shout 810 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 3: out to the homie Nick next Daily in Cleveland, he 811 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 3: gave me a break. A lot of people ain't giving 812 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 3: people passes because he understood. And he told me that day, 813 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 3: he said, listen, you know how they call you my friend, 814 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 3: my friend while you steal from me. I tried to 815 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 3: help you. I was poor too. You have to work, 816 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 3: and he gave me a job. Man. That was my 817 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: first job I had. I was in charge of the 818 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 3: that's when they had the pack man machines that went crazy, 819 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 3: you know packed man, you know the video games. I 820 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 3: was in charge of that little area, making sure it 821 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: didn't nobody else steal. I was sure like the pop bottles. 822 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 3: You know, pop bottles used to be a lot of money. 823 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 3: Had to spray the pop bottles down and sweep the store. 824 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 3: I got fired. I was a week dog, but it 825 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 3: gave me a sense of pride to where I learned. 826 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, man, it's way easier and 827 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: you feel better about yourself when you go earn something 828 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: for that. And I was stacked my money up and 829 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 3: I've always been that way since then. Unfortunately, my hustle 830 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 3: turned other things as I got you know when that 831 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 3: crack came, because you know, you saw the homies that 832 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 3: was fifteen buying cars and they was coming in them 833 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: fresh new Jordan's and all that stuff. You know, So 834 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 3: it changed a little bit later on. But we have 835 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: to create opportunities for our youth today, man, because if 836 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: we don't, all we could do all the talking in 837 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 3: the world and showing. But as long as they got 838 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 3: them Honger pains in their stomach and they feel hopeless, bro, 839 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: we go keep countil we go see a pattern of 840 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 3: the same shit going on and on again is repeating itself. 841 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 4: Do you attribute all the snatching and grabbing from the 842 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 4: stores and all the high extensive shit, do you attribute 843 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 4: that to honger pains or do you attribute that to 844 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 4: the fad of today? 845 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 3: A lot of that is just greed, I believe man, 846 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 3: And you know what, it's still hunger pains because and 847 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you talk about it. I'm gonna let 848 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 3: you say laying on this in a minute. But what 849 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 3: I see today with the kids, right and I don't 850 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 3: want to turn this into a thing where we talk 851 00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: about the youth of the day, because they're not too 852 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: differ than what we was, right, But but what we 853 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 3: didn't have eight We didn't have these illusions of grandeur 854 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 3: on the television screen. Because these kids sit at home 855 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 3: and they look at their phones. Right now, information is 856 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: more accessible than this ever been in the history of 857 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 3: the human race. Probably right now you can literally go 858 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 3: in something, type in something in Google and it's gonna 859 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 3: give you the information. But that's not They not going 860 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 3: to go seek the knowledge that he's talking about. They 861 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 3: going there and they look at you know, not just 862 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 3: the music videos, but the movies, and they see these 863 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: brothers just balling, and it's a similar situation to how 864 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: it was when we grew up, except we saw the 865 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 3: dude in the corner, on the corner exactly like on 866 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 3: these but this time it's just ten times bigger, like 867 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 3: it's magnified a million times bigger, because now it's a 868 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 3: dude pulling up in the Rose Royce. He got a 869 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 3: bunch of jewelry on he got this. They want that. 870 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 3: They don't even want to skip to the point and 871 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 3: just getting the meal that. 872 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 4: I saw the hard work or too. My mom went 873 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 4: to work every day. My father went worked at General 874 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 4: Motors till he died. 875 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 5: But was that a hard worker? 876 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: But no. 877 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,959 Speaker 4: And you know we was middle class. Like I said, 878 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 4: I grew up on Johnson Street. We wasn't rich, you 879 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 4: get me. We didn't have a fancy car and none 880 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 4: of that ship. But I saw the hard worker everybody, 881 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 4: you get me. My family, my mom's in them. 882 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: They came from. 883 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: Guffport, Mississippi. They had the hard work mentality hard I 884 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 4: saw the nigga down the street on Dayton's That's what 885 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 4: I'm the fucking center lines, the Nissangan trucks, the bugs 886 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 4: with the plush with a. 887 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 3: Page ron with a beeper on, a nutfull of money 888 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 3: in this thing and a bad bitch. 889 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: That that is what attracted me to like. 890 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 4: And then yeah, I saw the hard struggle of moms 891 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 4: working nine to five every day and still at the 892 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 4: end of the day, shit was hard to pay man 893 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 4: all that thirding that she was doing. We living in 894 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 4: motherfucking Cerritos or Baldwin fucking he. 895 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 3: So you look at that as a waste of time. 896 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 4: Almost We we living in the block in Compton with 897 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 4: niggas coming through blasting every day because and she pulling 898 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 4: us down on the floor from the bed because niggas 899 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 4: is coming through blasting. So the the the honesty shit 900 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 4: or the lifestyle of the nine to five, I was like, 901 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,959 Speaker 4: fuck that shit, it's a struggle. When I'm looking down 902 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 4: the street. This nigga got a brand new motherfucking elk, 903 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 4: fresh off the lot at. 904 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: Felix on, brand new Dayton's. 905 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 4: In the Alpine, and the EQ the six by nine, 906 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 4: and the nigga in high school. 907 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: Now, just imagine eight that looks bigger than life, right, 908 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 3: imagine what these kids see now with these like, and 909 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 3: I call them optical illusions. I ain't just gonna say 910 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 3: the rappers because it's the movies now, right. You see 911 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 3: the dude, man, that's the baller on TV. This nigga 912 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 3: don't never have a job or nothing on there. You 913 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's an illusion, right. These kids 914 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 3: see these illusions, man, and they're impatient. They don't want 915 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 3: a way. You could tell it, kid, well, if you 916 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 3: work hard, maybe one day. No, they want it right now. 917 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: Instant gratification they want. We are in the age of 918 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 3: instant gratification. I believe it started with the microwave of 919 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 3: in the moment, man, because I remember I put a 920 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 3: burrita on the other and I had three hours. You're done. 921 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 3: I've been on start to death. You know, the little 922 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: cheap ass frozen burritos. You'll wait three hours for that motherfucker. 923 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 3: Later on, it was a minute later. You got your thing, 924 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 3: and then they put the drive throughs in the restaurant. 925 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 3: Can I take your order? They want that motherfucking shit 926 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 3: right now, dog, They want it right now, not yesterday, 927 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 3: not tomorrow, but right now. 928 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 6: Well, you're absolutely right on two fronts. And you guys 929 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 6: made some very valid points. Of course, we were raised 930 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 6: by OG's and not ig That's the first thing, definitely, 931 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 6: And the second thing is sometimes we have to really 932 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 6: point the finger at the hidden hand, the person that 933 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 6: hitting and hide the hand. And some of the problems 934 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 6: of black people today coming from the greatness that we 935 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 6: came because they only talk to us about our shortcoming, slavery, 936 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 6: getting your ass. Well, we took your shit, but our 937 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 6: history and our greatness supersedes civilization. 938 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: You know. 939 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 6: After God, then he put us. Then he put the sun, moon, 940 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 6: the stars and told him to bow down to the 941 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 6: black man. So because our children know that something deep 942 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 6: in their psyche tells them that they're royal, that they 943 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 6: deserve better, that they've been robbed, that that's your shit 944 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 6: that you know you can't get to it at the 945 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,240 Speaker 6: homie down the block balling. It's deep in your fucking 946 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 6: psyche that's telling you. I'm not supposed to be poor, 947 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 6: because poverty is They say in the Koran that poverty 948 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 6: is worse than death. It's best to murder man than 949 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 6: to leave them in poverty. You dig, you know what 950 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 6: I'm saying. So when you get these type of situations 951 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 6: where these kids is sitting back and they saying, my 952 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 6: daddy died, defeated, my grandma died, defeated. But Bob and 953 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 6: Bobby Hills High School. That punk motherfucker, he don't do shit, 954 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 6: he got everything. Fuck it, I'm a rebel like the slaves. 955 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 6: They would not turn it. So that's a rebellion. That's 956 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 6: America's fault. That's Biden's fault. Biden, you should have never 957 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 6: locked up. They daddy you and Bill Clinton with three strikes. 958 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 6: Kamala Harris, you still got some of my homies doing 959 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 6: seventy five years of life in the Feds right now, 960 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 6: where you're up there smiling with that motherfucker oppressor and 961 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 6: our people dying on their feet. Okay, So we can't 962 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 6: just look at the kids, because the kids are the 963 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 6: one they gonna throw out there to say that's the problem. 964 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: See they did that. 965 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 6: They bust the window. Motherfucker. Do you know that that 966 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 6: sign that they got from Findy come from an African tribe? 967 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: Mmm? 968 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 6: Did you know them signs that they got for the most, 969 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 6: the biggest designer clothes they got, all them symbols come 970 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 6: either from an Indian or African tribe. You got Africans 971 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 6: with finny cutting, they face with razor. 972 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 3: We don't know that information, man, we don't have It's 973 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 3: like we don't have access to a lot of that 974 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 3: information to tell these kids they lineage because like you say, 975 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 3: all we hear about is the slavery, right, all we 976 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 3: hear about is the slavery. And they don't project positive 977 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 3: black images. Man, I'm gonna tell you aighten, you know this. 978 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 3: That's why I always act like I'm somebody's father when 979 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 3: I'm up here. You don't never see me doing a 980 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 3: while now. And it's been to our detriment kind of 981 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 3: that we choose not to do the bullshit, right. 982 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: Definitely, you know it's been. You know, we can go. 983 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 3: We could probably make ten times more money man, by 984 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 3: doing the crazy, the silly shit. But I refuse to 985 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, I have some 986 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 3: individuals walking around the world my last name, he got 987 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 3: individuals walking around wearing his last name. The last thing 988 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 3: I would want somebody to do is man, that show daddy. 989 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 4: I just you know, we are looked at already as 990 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 4: in a negative light, especially when you come from the 991 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 4: walks of life we come from. It's my reason for 992 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 4: trying to be somewhat intelligent, articulate when you speak and 993 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 4: you answer questions, and you don't get involved with what's 994 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 4: popularized today as far as the internet and content and 995 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 4: the crazy shit, because like I said, we already looked 996 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 4: at as as on the on the wrong side of 997 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 4: the fence. So you gotta be able to show motherfuckers 998 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 4: that even though you come from that side of the tracks, 999 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 4: your your, your, your, your maturity shows that you know 1000 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 4: you can be able to avoid certain conflicts and mess 1001 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 4: and show people that we're not just the ignorant negroes 1002 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 4: that the paint the picture is painted. 1003 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: You get me. 1004 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 4: You niggas came from poverty and gang banging and selling 1005 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 4: drugs and whatever. Y'all should be involved with what you know. 1006 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 4: A lot of motherfuckers like to see the downfall of 1007 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 4: the black man. And the problem is a lot of 1008 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,720 Speaker 4: it is a is a same color. 1009 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: You get me. 1010 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 4: I had to tell my homeboy one time because he 1011 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 4: likes watching the shows where you know, the bitches be 1012 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 4: fighting and the conflict and it's always shit cracking, and 1013 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,479 Speaker 4: and I'll be like, why are you interested in shit 1014 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 4: like that? 1015 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 5: Oh man, it's just so funny. 1016 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 4: And this Joe, you know, so and so got they 1017 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 4: ass whooped, and then these motherfuckers start fighting and won't 1018 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 4: you won't? I said, that's why motherfuckers put them shows 1019 00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 4: on TV, because they sit up and go niggas of 1020 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 4: seeing niggas in bullshit. 1021 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 3: All the time, man and us painted in the most 1022 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: foolish light possible. This question for you, Malique, kind of 1023 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 3: maybe you can help me expound on this a little bit, right. 1024 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 3: I think I was talking to you eight and I 1025 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 3: noticed that with us as black men, right, I've noticed 1026 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 3: EAX generation seems like they're doing a little bit better 1027 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 3: than the previous, but not really because when you looked 1028 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 3: at a brother that was a certain age. If you 1029 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 3: looked at a brother in nineteen seventy five that was 1030 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 3: thirty years old, he carried itself a certain way. Right. 1031 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 3: It's like sometimes it's almost like our growth is stunning, 1032 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 3: because I see some of these brothers online and just 1033 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 3: some of these brothers in the streets. You know, they 1034 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 3: may be fifty years old, bro, but they got the 1035 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 3: mentality of like a sixteen year old. What do you 1036 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 3: attribute that to? It's like our growth has been stunned Somewhere. 1037 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 3: I see some of these brothers. And some of these 1038 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 3: brothers are guys that make pretty good livings, but they 1039 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 3: yet like fools. 1040 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 6: Well that's called buck breaking, and it's been around since 1041 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 6: the beginning of time. You see a decade car has 1042 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 6: got a king, a queen, the ace of spades, the joker. 1043 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 6: What position do you play amongst our people? You got 1044 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 6: a lot of jokers, You got a lot of queens, 1045 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 6: you got a lot of jacks. 1046 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: What position do you see? I play chess, but I. 1047 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 6: Play chess with all pawns on the table because I 1048 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 6: don't have time to play no games, and then I 1049 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 6: don't need no clock. So when you're dealing with a 1050 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 6: situation where you got brothers personifying that type of imagery 1051 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 6: and then coming back influencing our youth, that's by design. 1052 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 6: That's America. America never cleaned up the image of black people. 1053 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 6: They never gave them the two for example, and not 1054 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 6: to cut your wisdom, Wall Street, the most positive thing 1055 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 6: could have ever happened. But somehow or another, they infused 1056 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 6: some bullshit in there and fucked them off. 1057 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: The crips and bloods. 1058 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 6: They started out as something to protect Spook down from 1059 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 6: the white gangs. That was up in Huntington Beach called 1060 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 6: the Dirty Draws gang. See the first gang injunction was 1061 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 6: put on a Dirty Draws gang in Huntington Beach. A 1062 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 6: white child and no pun intended. But I speak from 1063 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 6: where I am. A white child walking down mail Rose, 1064 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 6: sagging with his pants hanging down, earrings. 1065 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: Over in tattoos. He's an aspiring rock star. 1066 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 6: But little Pooky local Pole ain't got no best but 1067 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 6: western surfplus clothes on shoes toward walking down Mailrose. He 1068 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 6: considered a gang bang of trying to steal something. When 1069 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 6: college's kids go in college at USC and USLA and 1070 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 6: they get drunk and drown their homeboy and all that, 1071 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 6: they have a safety net for them. But when Pooky 1072 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 6: get killed shot up at a party, he's going to 1073 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 6: the penitentiary. When the little Caucasian or oppressor shoot up 1074 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 6: a school, they always go and say, well, he was 1075 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 6: a good kid, and he always handcuffed in the front 1076 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 6: and they take him to McDonald's. 1077 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: But when little POOKI get in some trouble, his. 1078 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,399 Speaker 6: Head slammed in the back of the car, his arms 1079 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 6: up like this, and they go take his brother and 1080 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 6: put him in the hole in the penitentiary and cut 1081 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 6: his mama ran off and cut him out the projects. 1082 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 6: You have to know systemically what's going on. There's no 1083 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 6: when you point one finger people, there's always four point 1084 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 6: at you. And our youth today have been misguided and 1085 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 6: it's just like a train at Christmas. 1086 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: You just learning how to work it. 1087 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 6: But then if you learn the centered on the track 1088 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 6: right and go a little bit slow and give just 1089 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,720 Speaker 6: a little bit less juice, you can turn them corners. 1090 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: They just need a little bit more guidance. 1091 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 6: You got to teach him about people like George Soros, SoRs, 1092 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 6: who funds Black Lives matters, who funds the destruction of 1093 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 6: human beings, who's alive today. You have to teach him 1094 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 6: about cats like Epstein who forget him trying to have 1095 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 6: sex with young girls, You nasty bastard. But what about 1096 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 6: the Virgin Island suing you because of all the biological 1097 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 6: experiments that you were doing on black children and in 1098 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 6: Africa and the Virgin. 1099 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: And all them subsidiaries you set up. 1100 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 6: And what about your boy up there at the top, 1101 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 6: Mel Gibson, who's talking about whoop the whoopede woop is 1102 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 6: eating and having sex with babies and YadA YadA, YadA YadA. 1103 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 6: But then you turn around and they blame it on 1104 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 6: R Kelly and Pete Diddy. 1105 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: What is it? So you're saying shit rolls downhill, take 1106 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: the light off of them. 1107 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 3: But you go to camera too, say you know what 1108 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 3: that is to Malie. The chickens are coming home the 1109 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 3: roofs right now. A lot of these brothers like Diddy 1110 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 3: and not to get all into this stuff, but they 1111 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 3: thought they had a seat at the table at one time, 1112 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 3: and they are about to take the brunt of a 1113 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 3: lot of this stuff or either come up missing. 1114 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: Problem, beloved. I think it's more like we all been 1115 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: in the game. Yah, yeah, you have you have. The 1116 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: game will send you a bill. 1117 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 6: Like for me, only dated wealthy women for a long 1118 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 6: time because I sold black dick to Bary Black babies. 1119 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: That's the name of one of my books. 1120 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 6: Because every time I go turn the trick with old 1121 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 6: white bitch, I got to go get Shaquita some money because. 1122 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: Her son got killed. So I'm a whole you see 1123 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 1124 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 6: So my point is is that the game sends you 1125 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 6: a bill if you a player in the streets and 1126 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 6: you don't play bitches. Now you stuck in the last 1127 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 6: part of your life with a square bitch you can't stand. 1128 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 6: The game sends you a bill, Puffy, the game to 1129 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 6: send you a bill, pay it. 1130 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: The game sends everybody a bill. And last, but not least. 1131 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,959 Speaker 6: And I reflect back to eight because I played his show, 1132 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 6: his radio stuff on the radio, his music. He was 1133 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 6: the first East Coast West coast prelude, we should have 1134 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 6: stopped it. Then he was the first one to try 1135 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 6: to with the DJ Quick and all that. If you 1136 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 6: think about it, that man went through hell trying to 1137 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 6: show that he can coexist with other people, trying to 1138 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 6: represent his tribe. Because back then you weren't able to 1139 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 6: just be crippled blood and just get away with it. 1140 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 6: Wasn't no cakewalks. Your motherfucking ass better be bout it 1141 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 6: about it. They culture in that uniform, You about it 1142 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 6: about it. So my point is this, I salute you. 1143 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 6: That's why I drove over here for sure, And I 1144 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 6: salute you, and I salute the owner of this coin 1145 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 6: studio because he stayed down with black people and poor people. 1146 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 6: The owner of the studio, I assume is either Native 1147 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 6: American or Caucasian, and I ain't never seen him around 1148 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 6: nobody but black people. 1149 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: He's trying to help. 1150 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 3: Oh no, let me old, let me stop you right there, 1151 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 3: shout out to the homeboy. 1152 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: Macca. 1153 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 3: Macca is a brother from out the ben the Pennanty. 1154 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 3: We would have him on the show. Actually, I wish 1155 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 3: you could have met him. Man, Macca is one of 1156 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 3: the most incredible individuals I've ever met in my life. 1157 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 3: That changed his circumstances. Man, and to fight the lass. 1158 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 3: He's just an incredible businessman. This ain't the only thing 1159 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 3: he got. He got some incredible stuff cracking man and 1160 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 3: brother actually invented the app. Not to get too. 1161 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Far the thing. 1162 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: Brother actually and took the same walks of life that 1163 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 3: we didea. It took the same walk of life that 1164 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 3: we did. 1165 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 6: He was you know why because the cream always rises 1166 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 6: to the topic. Still sure and pressure makes the best diamond. 1167 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 6: So it could shed light in all directions. 1168 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 3: Hey, man, you know, I want to ask you something, Man, 1169 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 3: when we talk about positive black images, Man, you had 1170 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 3: a show on A and E. Why didn't they continue 1171 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 3: doing that? Because this is the stuff that people need 1172 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 3: to hear. 1173 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 6: Because black unity and unity of poor people is a crime. 1174 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 6: You can find Kitty Porno. You can find black on 1175 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 6: black murders getting killed on selfie while you're on your 1176 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 6: phone on there, but you can't find and not one 1177 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 6: piece maker la gang war segment on there. 1178 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Unity of black people is a crime. 1179 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 6: That's why you don't hear no public enemy no more 1180 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 6: in music of that nature, because anything that's gonna enlighten 1181 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 6: the masses goes against what they want. 1182 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 1: You done. Have been in the meetings, they tell you, look, 1183 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: we need some shoot them up bang bang music. But 1184 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 1: can I tell you this quick story, real fast. 1185 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 3: Oh you got man, you man, you do your thing. 1186 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 6: Brother, I was in the pen. I was in the 1187 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 6: county jail, and a brother walked by. He was on 1188 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 6: his way to death row. He was a crip. I 1189 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 6: vaguely remember where he was from, but he was on 1190 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 6: swollen and I was a trustee in the hallway. And 1191 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 6: when the man walking, they yelled, the dead man walking, 1192 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 6: he's supposed to turn around. But because I worked up 1193 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 6: in high power, because I already had a high power 1194 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 6: K seventeen fifty for youngsters that don't know about that 1195 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 6: red wristband, you'll learn keep fucking around. 1196 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: The brother stopped and he said Malik, can I tell 1197 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: you a story? 1198 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 6: Now, mind, you're not supposed to talk to these people, 1199 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 6: but the deputies let them stop. He said, tell you 1200 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 6: a story to three minds. And I told the story 1201 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 6: that Jesse Jackson and my Nigga c Bone from five 1202 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 6: Dues Broadway bear witness that this is the truth. 1203 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: He said. I was in the store once before, and 1204 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: they sold mines. 1205 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 6: They had the White Mind, the Chinese Mind, and the 1206 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 6: Black Mind, and he. 1207 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Said, Malik. 1208 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 6: I walked in the store and I asked the man 1209 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 6: how much you want for the White Mind. He said, oh, 1210 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 6: for that one, Malik, I'll take a million dollars. I said, well, 1211 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 6: that's relativity inexpensive. Being at the White Mind invented the Constitution, 1212 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 6: got a lot of history uneath they belt. So I 1213 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 6: shopped some more in this store, and I ran across 1214 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 6: the section that sold the Chinese Mind. So I asked 1215 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 6: the man in the store. I said, excuse me, sir, 1216 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 6: what do you want for the Chinese Mind? He said, oh, 1217 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 6: for Malik, for that one, I'll take two million dollars. 1218 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 6: I said, well, that's relatively inexpensive. Being at the Chinese 1219 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 6: event at the art of war, gunpowder stings of that nature. 1220 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 6: So I shopped some more in this store, and I 1221 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 6: ran across the section that sold the black and brown mind. 1222 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 6: So I asked the man in the stower preferable be speaking. 1223 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 6: I wanted to get a black one because it fit 1224 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 6: better for me. I said, I what you want for 1225 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 6: that black mind? He said, oh, my leak for that one. 1226 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 3: For that leak, I'll. 1227 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Take twenty five million dollars. 1228 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 6: I said, you want a million for the white mine 1229 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 6: and their endeavor, two million for the Chinese mind and 1230 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 6: their endeavors and contributions. Why do you want so much 1231 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 6: for the black mind? He said, because the black mind 1232 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 6: hasn't been used as still in the box. Oh my god, 1233 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 6: mind is a terrible thing to waste. The game Gonna 1234 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 6: send you a bill. 1235 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 3: Do you think that's what we're seeing now? Man? Retribution? 1236 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 3: Right now you've seen? Is this a lot of people 1237 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 3: that got healed to pay? 1238 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 6: Man, We are in the waiting room of the hereafter 1239 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 6: as black people and oppressed people, and we are here 1240 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 6: to usher in the fall of oppressures. 1241 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: That's it. 1242 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 6: God, First, family, and whatever you do, do not surrender 1243 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 6: your firearms. You are an American citizen first, Amendment, Second Amendment, 1244 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 6: Fourth Amendment. 1245 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Exercise it you are American. 1246 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 6: You built the fork, the game of Chess, the street light, 1247 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 6: real quick. 1248 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: There was three people. 1249 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 6: Ford, Motor Dude, mister Diesel, and there was mister Carver. 1250 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 6: Mister Carver made all the body parts for the car, 1251 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 6: the body, the stick shift. He got one hundred and 1252 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 6: fifty thousand. I think a little bit of studies that 1253 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 6: they use some of his shit in NASA right now, 1254 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 6: going plants. Then mister Ford he built the engine. See 1255 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 6: Ford and Diesel and Carver the peanut man was all friends. 1256 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 6: And then mister Diesel built the diesel part of the engine. 1257 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 6: But the stick shift, steering wheel, the cheap pad that 1258 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 6: you use for your computer was invented by a black man. 1259 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 6: The super soaker. Well, he invented the battery for the 1260 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 6: PRIs that you drive today. He lives in Atlanta. The 1261 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 6: Game of Chess, the street light. The brother who invented 1262 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 6: the heart transplant, of the blood transfusion that died because 1263 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 6: he couldn't go to a Caucasian hospital when he. 1264 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: Died of a heart issue. 1265 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 3: Ain't that deep man? 1266 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 6: The black man who invented the defibrillator. What contributions. Pressure 1267 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 6: makes the best diamondsaur can shed light in all direction. 1268 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:49,919 Speaker 1: The game gonna shind you a bill. Man. 1269 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 3: You know, I thoroughly enjoyed having you won, hear man, 1270 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 3: that's indeed, And I'm a holler at you later on, man, 1271 01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 3: because yes, that you deliver, man, is what is needed 1272 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 3: right now, because me being a person that's in media 1273 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,919 Speaker 3: right now, man, I get kind of like, I get 1274 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 3: really disgusted with a lot of the stuff that's out 1275 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 3: there right now. Man. And it's like, the more ignorance 1276 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 3: you are, the more you seem to be rewarded. 1277 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Exactly. 1278 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 6: But that's good because the more ignorant you are, the 1279 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 6: more the game gonna send you a bigger bill. Let 1280 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 6: them do what they do. Every atom do what it's 1281 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 6: supposed to do at his. 1282 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: A point in time. Nothing happens. Coincidentally, you let them 1283 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: do what they do. You just do what you do. 1284 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 6: You do what you do because they can't stop this frequency. 1285 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 6: If they could, they would. So when you get these, 1286 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 6: I call it the circus. Just look at the circus. 1287 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 6: Don't let it affect you. Y'all keep pushing this. That's 1288 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 6: what's important. Everything else is a distruction. I say it 1289 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 6: every time. We don't need to get caught up and 1290 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 6: all that. That's all verbal gymnastics and and and and 1291 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 6: and lip and tongue wrestling and and and verbal and 1292 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 6: mental gymnastics. Suspend yourself in the space darted from to 1293 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 6: infinity and think bigger. Example, Opressa sitting look at this 1294 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,919 Speaker 6: at the sun. Negro sitting look at the sun. I'm like, damn, 1295 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 6: it's hot. But got Opressa look at that sun and said, damn, 1296 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 6: I need to extrapolate some nuclear power from it. When 1297 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 6: the when NASA went to Africa, we of them countries 1298 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 6: and seeing our ancestors sitting on the mountain. They were 1299 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 6: sitting up on the mountain. They've been sitting there for 1300 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 6: about fifty thousand years. And NASA scientists walked up and said, hey, 1301 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 6: what are y'all looking at the star? 1302 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Serious? You know, serious like. 1303 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 6: The The ancestor turned to him and said, no, we're 1304 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 6: looking at the shadow star behind. 1305 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Serious with their naked eye. 1306 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 3: That's deep. Man. 1307 01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:02,959 Speaker 6: They got NASA high tech equipment and they barely see serious. 1308 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 6: Our ancestors sitting there smoking that weed. They told a 1309 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 6: white man, we ain't looking as serious. Were looking at 1310 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 6: the shadow behind. 1311 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 3: Him, drop the mic and walk on. That's it, and 1312 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,600 Speaker 3: that's it right there. Man. We like to thank you 1313 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 3: man for tuning in and man, brother one of the 1314 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 3: most detailed brothers I've ever spoke to in my life. 1315 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 6: Man. 1316 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, he put your mind on some stings. Man, give 1317 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 4: you something to think about. And the like I said, 1318 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,560 Speaker 4: shout out to just you know, shout out to everybody 1319 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:39,520 Speaker 4: in the communities. 1320 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Man. 1321 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 4: We just try to reach just try to stay in 1322 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 4: tune with what's going on out there, because last thing 1323 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 4: we need is to be blinded by shit, you know 1324 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 4: for sure, and all the homies that's you know, in 1325 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 4: the trenches, and you know, because that's the direction right now. 1326 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 4: You know, you know, hopefully you naked through and that 1327 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 4: buil don't come do hopefully you can. You know, like 1328 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 4: I said, we've all been through some rough shit. Like 1329 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 4: you said, still you know, you got caught robbing they 1330 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 4: I done, got caught serving dope whatever, it's you know, 1331 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 4: it's it's you just got to learn how to get 1332 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 4: out of the roughness. That's all, you know what I 1333 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 4: thought about the day man, then we go leave. I 1334 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 4: was listening to mcavelly right right, he's having to public 1335 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 4: on my thing man, and that album is probably twenty 1336 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 4: years old now. M and I listened to some stuff 1337 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 4: Park said way back then. He said, Puffy getting bribed 1338 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 4: like a trick to hire some shit he did somenight ride. 1339 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 4: In fact, I said, damn boy, a lot of a 1340 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 4: lot of shit, h A lot of shit we see, 1341 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,559 Speaker 4: you know, we watch programs or hear music from back then, 1342 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 4: kind of describe what's going on today. 1343 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,639 Speaker 3: We got out and I'm fuck already, I said, damn. 1344 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 3: Park was like he's told on everybody that. So he 1345 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 3: said Puffy getting dribed like some shit he should have 1346 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 3: did somenight ride. In fact, Oh man, that's it man, 1347 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 3: We out of here. 1348 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: Well. 1349 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 3: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. 1350 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 3: Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to 1351 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,679 Speaker 3: The Gangster Chronicles podcast For Apple users, find a purple 1352 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 3: mica on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show, 1353 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,759 Speaker 3: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangster 1354 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 3: Chronicles podcasts Norman Stell, Aaron M. C a Tyler. Our 1355 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 3: visual media director is Brian Whyatt, and the audio editors 1356 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 3: tell It Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles is a production of 1357 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 3: iHeart Media Network and the Black Effect Podcast Network. For 1358 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 3: more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 1359 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts wherever you're listening to your podcasts