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Speaker 4: As we welcome you into week eight of the NFL seasons.
Speaker 4: Crazy that we're two months into this bad boy and
Speaker 4: there's plenty to talk about. Man, we've got some reaction
Speaker 4: around the NFL in Week seven, the cow Boys were off,
Speaker 4: but certainly things that you can look at and learn from. Uh,
Speaker 4: the Cowboys of course making some roster moves. We'll get
Speaker 4: to all of that. Jerry Jones was just on one
Speaker 4: O five through the fan a couple of moments ago,
Speaker 4: and so we'll kind of react to that as well.
Speaker 4: But before we get anywhere, you know, you're muted. But
Speaker 4: other than that, Wow, what a start, yeah, oh for oh,
Speaker 4: for one.
Speaker 5: It's almost like Michael Pennox's start against Arizona.
Speaker 2: You'm talking about the guy who's winning the Heisman candidate.
Speaker 6: Right in week nine, you don't win, you don't win.
Speaker 6: Huysmans in week nine.
Speaker 2: Bars leading the leading. That was weird.
Speaker 4: That was like quista. I don't know, for those of
Speaker 4: you listening to this, you just missed out on Isaiah
Speaker 4: laughing without his lap, like his lips moving at all.
Speaker 2: It was it.
Speaker 4: So, No, we're not talking about Michael Pennocks. To me,
Speaker 4: he's great, though. We're talking about your Texas Rangers. And
Speaker 4: I know there's a mixture of there's cowboys fans everywhere.
Speaker 4: There are Cowboys fans that are fans of the Astros.
Speaker 4: There are cowboys fans that are fans of the Phillies
Speaker 4: or the Diamondbacks or wherever. But Rangers fans have something
Speaker 4: to cheer about today. I'm not going to talk about
Speaker 4: it for very long.
Speaker 2: Just the fact that they are going to the World Series.
Speaker 2: And I'm very excited. Yeah that's it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, very excited.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm eleven again when they made it
Speaker 5: last Yeah, it was very fun.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's all we're gonna say. Going to the
Speaker 4: World Series.
Speaker 2: Decisive win too. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 4: That was a lot of fun. It was very satisfying.
Speaker 4: I wish I thought about it. I wish we had
Speaker 4: a thing already last night, me and the wife feet
Speaker 4: and so we took care of that and then had
Speaker 4: to go back over. We watched it at the Inlass
Speaker 4: house and it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Went to her mom's house and had a good time.
Speaker 4: But man, yeah, Rangers get it done. But I kind
Speaker 4: of want to relay it back to the Cowboys because
Speaker 4: there's the there's that frustration I think with Cowboys fans
Speaker 4: or crossover fans right now, with the fact that all
Speaker 4: the Rangers can get there.
Speaker 2: The Stars were.
Speaker 4: In the Stanley Cup Final not too long ago. They've
Speaker 4: made these deep playoff runs and then you're getting to
Speaker 4: the point where the trade deadline is on the horizon
Speaker 4: and you want a team.
Speaker 2: To go all in.
Speaker 4: The Rangers went all in. They went and got a
Speaker 4: guy like Max Schurzer, who started Game seven late in
Speaker 4: the trade process, to go and find some reinforcements.
Speaker 2: That's kind of where we're at right now.
Speaker 4: Before we get the news and notes, I'll ask you, guys,
Speaker 4: would you rather the Cowboys based off of what you've
Speaker 4: seen in the first six games. Would you rather than
Speaker 4: be aggressive, Isaiah, or would you rather than maybe take
Speaker 4: the conservative approach to the twenty twenty three.
Speaker 7: You know who you're asking this question. I'm just asking aggressive.
Speaker 7: You play every year to win the Super Bowl. You
Speaker 7: don't play to position yourself for a Super Bowl run
Speaker 7: three years down the road. You play every year to
Speaker 7: win a Super Bowl. And it's I have applauded the
Speaker 7: front office this year for being more aggressive than they've
Speaker 7: been in recent years. This year they went out and
Speaker 7: they got Gilmour. This year they went out and got
Speaker 7: be Cooks, right, they did those things last year. You know,
Speaker 7: they recognized they had a whole They went out and
Speaker 7: got Jonathan Hankins all those key elements, and to their
Speaker 7: success to date, continue that like keep that energy right.
Speaker 7: Like there are other teams that we're not gonna mention
Speaker 7: that have historically been aggressive, and almost every team that
Speaker 7: we could think about that has been aggressive has positioned
Speaker 7: themselves for a run that year.
Speaker 2: Some of those teams have actually succeeded.
Speaker 7: In those runs. Going to the Super Bowl not necessarily
Speaker 7: win it all the time, and at.
Speaker 2: Least you're in a position to win it. Some of
Speaker 2: them have actually won the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Either way, you put yourself where you need to be
Speaker 4: every year.
Speaker 7: And I think that Dallas is in another position where
Speaker 7: they can do the same thing. And I would like
Speaker 7: my request early Christmas requests. Okay, all right, you don't know,
Speaker 7: we're a couple months.
Speaker 4: Out, Okay, but my early wishes out there.
Speaker 7: Put my wish out there now, okay, is that they
Speaker 7: go out and be uber aggressive. I'm talking ya, ask
Speaker 7: for the things that nobody would even remotely even think
Speaker 7: to ask for, because guess what the answer is always.
Speaker 2: What the answers always know. If you don't ask it, yep, right,
Speaker 2: shoot or shoot? You can't score if you don't shoot, just.
Speaker 8: Saying I can't.
Speaker 9: If you made this a poll question amongst Cowboys fans,
Speaker 9: I would be stunned if there was more than one
Speaker 9: percent that said to be conservative and stan Pat, I
Speaker 9: mean twenty seven years without getting to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9: Forget what the other teams are doing in the league,
Speaker 9: in the city, I mean, now is the time. And
Speaker 9: then with the team that they have built right here,
Speaker 9: you can see where there's just years where not just
Speaker 9: with the Cowboys but pro sports teams in general, where
Speaker 9: you're like, why would you go make that move that's
Speaker 9: not doing anything for that team? You guys aren't even close. Yeah,
Speaker 9: Like one potential move could be the thing that you
Speaker 9: look back at in February and go, man, remember that thing.
Speaker 8: Remember when they made that move?
Speaker 9: Maybe, man, that was such a difference maker right there
Speaker 9: that helped put them over the top, whether it be
Speaker 9: because of the way the player played on the field
Speaker 9: or the way they were behind the scene in the
Speaker 9: locker room bring in an experience things like that. I
Speaker 9: would be stunned if anybody would say that they don't
Speaker 9: want them to be aggressive right now. Now, with that
Speaker 9: being said, the only caveat I will put into that
Speaker 9: is that you don't want to do anything that would
Speaker 9: be so big that it prevents you from financially down
Speaker 9: the road impacting anything that you can do with like
Speaker 9: a Micah Parsons or a CD Lamb. But as long
Speaker 9: as it doesn't do that, as long as it's something
Speaker 9: where That's why a lot of times they're in the
Speaker 9: trade deadline. People look at guys with contracts that are
Speaker 9: on maybe their final year. They only have because then
Speaker 9: it's not going too far in advance. You know, I
Speaker 9: don't see them doing something that would you know, sacrifice
Speaker 9: or I shouldn't say sacrifice, but impact anything on that level.
Speaker 9: But everything should be on the table. And I did
Speaker 9: find it interesting how Jerry said this morning about how
Speaker 9: most of the deals are going to come from people
Speaker 9: calling you, because if you call them, they know you're interested,
Speaker 9: and you're just not going to get a good price,
Speaker 9: you know. Like, and I get what he's saying to
Speaker 9: a certain extent. He didn't say it this way, but
Speaker 9: it's like, well, you know, you call a team and
Speaker 9: you ask for this defensive tackle and they're just like, oh,
Speaker 9: they're interested, yeah, we need two ones from that whatever.
Speaker 9: Whereas if another team calls you about a defensive tackle
Speaker 9: on their team, that you're like, well, he's not as
Speaker 9: good as this guy, and all they want is it
Speaker 9: too right now, Like we got to take this like.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: So I do understand where he's coming from, And I
Speaker 9: also understand when I say that that fans don't want
Speaker 9: to hear that.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's the businessman, and I'm right. I think there
Speaker 5: was a lot of tactical dialogue that went into his
Speaker 5: hit on the fan this morning. Those are my first
Speaker 5: news and note, but I'll touch on this right quick.
Speaker 5: Aggressive that that's what they have to be. I think
Speaker 5: we all agree on that. You look at the Eagles
Speaker 5: and the moves that they've made over the course of
Speaker 5: the last couple of years, and it could be this
Speaker 5: week Kevin Billard going out and getting him and realizing
Speaker 5: that you made a mistake with CJ. Gardner Johnson and
Speaker 5: letting him walk, and okay, you accepted that. Well, you
Speaker 5: bring in a guy to fill that hole, and you
Speaker 5: fill that hole in the secondary. You look at how
Speaker 5: aggressive they were and getting DeAndre Swift and AJ Brown
Speaker 5: and Jalen Carter even getting up to nine to go
Speaker 5: get him.
Speaker 2: If you break it, you buy it. Isaiah True guys names, Okay.
Speaker 4: Beams in the back, like hang it freaking right now.
Speaker 5: But when you look at that aggression in the division,
Speaker 5: right and you you want to match that because that's
Speaker 5: not only the standard in the division, but that's the
Speaker 5: standard in the NFC, and the way the last couple
Speaker 5: of weeks have shaken out, I think that's also the
Speaker 5: way the entire NFL is kind of being standardized right now.
Speaker 5: Is the Philadelphia Eagles all.
Speaker 9: That real quick I was also going to say, it's
Speaker 9: not like there's like a really obvious team right now
Speaker 9: that you point to and go, man, look how aggressive
Speaker 9: that team is, and they just keep swinging and missing.
Speaker 8: Like when you look at a lot of those really aggressive.
Speaker 7: One team, there's only one team that's been uber aggressive,
Speaker 7: and not even just this year, and it's the Chargers.
Speaker 7: The Chargers was it last year to year before they
Speaker 7: went out there were uber aggressive. They solidified their defense,
Speaker 7: they got everybody, they got that bad.
Speaker 2: They got it.
Speaker 7: I mean, they got the secondary, they got everybody right,
Speaker 7: and you were like, oh crap, here they go. And
Speaker 7: they're the only team that's been aggressive like that and
Speaker 7: has not had the success.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: But every other team forty nine Ers success, Philly success,
Speaker 7: Rams success, every.
Speaker 2: Single team that we can mention has been uber Aggressivecaneers.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just saying the buzz right, all of them,
Speaker 7: all of them have been successful except for the Charters.
Speaker 9: Well, the other thing that has to be factored in
Speaker 9: with this too, that I think really annoys the fans
Speaker 9: side of it is that I would say, whether you're
Speaker 9: talking Cowboys fans, NFL fans, or sports fans, like there's
Speaker 9: one thing that they all know about the Cowboys, and
Speaker 9: that's Jerry Jones and his persona is this wildcatter makes
Speaker 9: all these big time crazy things that sometimes they work,
Speaker 9: sometimes they don't, but when it comes to the football team,
Speaker 9: they don't see that. And that's one of the biggest
Speaker 9: questions that's not just with your fan base, but around
Speaker 9: sports that are just kind of like this seems like
Speaker 9: a move, like for example, like some of the moves
Speaker 9: that you mentioned with the Eagles and then also San
Speaker 9: Francisco stuff like that, those are the type of moves
Speaker 9: that you're that you think that the Cowboys are always making,
Speaker 9: you know, and instead the Cowboys make a lot of
Speaker 9: they make a lot of calculated moves.
Speaker 8: You know, they don't there isn't a.
Speaker 9: Lot of swing for the fences things like that, And
Speaker 9: I think a lot of times it comes from maybe
Speaker 9: one didn't work out, so it's like we're not going
Speaker 9: to do this again type thing. I'm not sure, but
Speaker 9: I just I find it interesting that that is the
Speaker 9: that is the reputation, is that Jerry will do anything
Speaker 9: he needs. But then they sit there and they're also
Speaker 9: kind of like, well, why didn't they why haven't they
Speaker 9: made it? One of these aggressive moves.
Speaker 5: You know, you guys would probably be able to answer
Speaker 5: this a little bit better than I could. When was
Speaker 5: the last time that the Cowboys went out and made
Speaker 5: a mid season acquisition that just blew you away? I'm
Speaker 5: talking like von Miller to the Rams that that mid
Speaker 5: season Mark Coop Cooper.
Speaker 2: Mark Cooper, that's the one.
Speaker 4: I mean, round one pick, sent it for sure to
Speaker 4: Oakland at the time, almost said Las Vegas, but it
Speaker 4: was still in Oakland whenever he was there. So that's
Speaker 4: the last time it happened. And I don't know if
Speaker 4: that played a huge factor in the fact that they
Speaker 4: won't do anything or they haven't done anything.
Speaker 2: Like that since then.
Speaker 4: But they really didn't like going in that twenty nineteen
Speaker 4: draft without a first round pick. They hated the fact
Speaker 4: that they did not have a first round pick. In
Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen draft. They took Tristan Hill in the
Speaker 4: second round and it didn't work out the way that
Speaker 4: it wanted to from a second round pick there as well.
Speaker 5: Well, let's say a Mariy Cooper helps them run to
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl? Do you think they then I.
Speaker 2: Think they feel better.
Speaker 4: But in the end, that didn't happen. They didn't get
Speaker 4: to an NFC championship game. They were aggressive, they went
Speaker 4: out there, and they got it done. I think this
Speaker 4: roster is just as good, if not better, even with
Speaker 4: some of the injuries that they've had, as that roster
Speaker 4: was going into it, I think this roster is in
Speaker 4: a similar situation. Yeah, I think it would have been
Speaker 4: better if Trayvon Diggs was available, if Laton vander esh
Speaker 4: was fully healthy, if you felt better about your offensive line.
Speaker 4: I still think they would be in a better situation
Speaker 4: as this team is made up here in Week eight
Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty three season than even that team
Speaker 4: was before they went and traded for Amari Cooper. But
Speaker 4: I think the other thing that factors into it, and
Speaker 4: John kind of alluded to this a moment ago, but
Speaker 4: the way that the NFL has kind of shifted these
Speaker 4: last two weeks. This last two weeks have been very
Speaker 4: interesting because you got the Cowboys getting blown out by
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers in Week five, and that was
Speaker 4: a big benchmark moment for the entire league saying, wow,
Speaker 4: forty nine ers are it? That team is legitimate, They're
Speaker 4: almost unstoppable.
Speaker 2: Boom. They've lost two straight games.
Speaker 4: The Eagles fell to a not so good Browns team
Speaker 4: with a backup quarterback, a backup running back and tons
Speaker 4: of injuries as well.
Speaker 2: Or what no, that was who beat San Francisco? Excuse me?
Speaker 4: Philadelphia lost a week before they won last week. But
Speaker 4: in the end, the NFC good teams but still wide open.
Speaker 4: Are you on the same echelon right now as the
Speaker 4: Cowboys or are the Cowboys on that same echelon as
Speaker 4: Philadelphia as San Francisco? I don't think you can say that,
Speaker 4: But you can't say that the NFC is wide open
Speaker 4: and any team can win in any given week right now. Well,
Speaker 4: and that makes me want to be more aggressive, that
Speaker 4: makes me want to shure up some of the problems.
Speaker 2: So that way you can argue that you're in that echelon.
Speaker 8: Yeah, don't.
Speaker 9: I wouldn't put them in with the Niners and Eagles
Speaker 9: right now. But fortunately for the Cowboys, in two weeks
Speaker 9: you'll get to find out. You know, you can go
Speaker 9: out there and play the Eagles and have your best
Speaker 9: game of the season, and maybe that'll show that you
Speaker 9: do beloe in that in that echelon. But right now
Speaker 9: I wouldn't put them there. I would put the Eagles,
Speaker 9: uh number one, Niners two, and then there's a little
Speaker 9: bit of a drop off, and then that's when you
Speaker 9: get to probably the Cowboys and the Lions.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's an interesting conversation.
Speaker 4: Do you think the Cowboys are even there with the Lions?
Speaker 2: I know you'll.
Speaker 10: Get the Sunday Yeah, and the penultimate to get their
Speaker 10: doors going off by the Ravens way they did.
Speaker 9: The Lions said, yeah, you think if they would have
Speaker 9: played a tight game against the Ravens, I might have
Speaker 9: felt differently, But delay that egg the way they did
Speaker 9: that was worse than the Cowboys loss than Niners as
Speaker 9: far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. I mean that was not what was
Speaker 4: it thirty eight to six the final, and it.
Speaker 9: Was difficult to even get that six. Yeah, Lamar Jackson
Speaker 9: looked like the greatest football player ever.
Speaker 2: He's falling.
Speaker 10: He might be falling, He's not, definitely not, But no,
Speaker 10: that guy in that game, that guy plays for the
Speaker 10: University of Washington, right right right, best player in football
Speaker 10: really quick.
Speaker 5: On that same point, Jerry Jones said on the fan
Speaker 5: this morning talking about that upper echelon conversation, he said,
Speaker 5: we belong in the upper echelons. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: say we belong on the field with san Fran and
Speaker 5: we haven't played Philly, so I don't want to go
Speaker 5: that far. But we're in the upper echelon. So they're
Speaker 5: in the upper echelon, but yet they're not on the
Speaker 5: same field as san Fran.
Speaker 6: I don't know, you take that.
Speaker 8: There's an upper upper uchelon.
Speaker 6: Also.
Speaker 9: The other thing with those two teams too that I
Speaker 9: find interesting is like going back to the whole Eagles,
Speaker 9: how aggressive they've done. It's not like they've hit on
Speaker 9: everything and they've overcome it. You know, they gave the
Speaker 9: big contract to Carson Wentz and found a way to, hey,
Speaker 9: let's overcome this.
Speaker 8: It sucks, but we're going to make some tough moves.
Speaker 9: And they're gonna have to make some tough moves going
Speaker 9: forward now that they gave the big contract to Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 9: Their offensive lines obviously not getting any younger, and that's
Speaker 9: been a huge part of their team. It looks like
Speaker 9: it's in its prime right now, but they're going to
Speaker 9: have to keep making those But you look at the
Speaker 9: way that they're doing things and you're just like, you're
Speaker 9: pretty confident that they're going to be able to find
Speaker 9: ways that if they don't get it in the draft,
Speaker 9: because I don't think there's any arguing the Cowboys draft
Speaker 9: better than the Eagles. The Eagles fill in their holes
Speaker 9: when they need to, very aggressively.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean you could say the same thing about
Speaker 4: San Francisco. San Francisco has traded all these first round picks.
Speaker 4: They've given it up ball all these different assets along
Speaker 4: the way to go get a Trey Lance who's on
Speaker 4: this roster now, and you go and you pay the
Speaker 4: money to Jimmy Garoppolo and he's not even on the
Speaker 4: roster anymore, and now you're playing. You get lucky and
Speaker 4: you got a guy like Brock Purty who turns into
Speaker 4: being Brock Purty as opposed to being just mister irrelevant.
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of things that that have to
Speaker 4: go right for you to be in the current situation.
Speaker 4: But Isaiah, you can also make things go right for
Speaker 4: you if you really want to and just push that direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two there's two position groups. Two guys.
Speaker 7: I can't say names because obviously they're on rosters and
Speaker 7: we don't want tampering. But there are two positions I'll
Speaker 7: say that, I would say that, I.
Speaker 2: Would you not doing that. I'm not doing that, right.
Speaker 7: There is a actually there's two defensive linement one of
Speaker 7: them probably not accessible, neither of them probably accessible. But
Speaker 7: there's two defensive defensive linment that I would go gung
Speaker 7: ho for. Okay, interior defensive linment that are just complete
Speaker 7: dominant guys that you could put next to john Than
Speaker 7: Hankins that I feel would completely negate team's abilities to
Speaker 7: run the ball against you. They're doing a good job
Speaker 7: of stopping teams from running the ball against them. But
Speaker 7: let's let's not be fool like. If something happened to
Speaker 7: Jonathan Hankins, you're gonna be with the bubble guts, Okay.
Speaker 8: Not wishing that all your first round pick has a
Speaker 8: step up.
Speaker 2: So he's not ready yet, Okay.
Speaker 7: I think he will be a good player, but currently,
Speaker 7: right now, he's not ready to make an impact on
Speaker 7: this team.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: So that's not to say anything about his future, it's
Speaker 7: just where he is currently, and a lot of people
Speaker 7: don't have the patience for that because of where he
Speaker 7: was drafted. He's still a human being, Okay, so give
Speaker 7: him time and hopefully he'll be the impact player, but
Speaker 7: let's not count on that this year.
Speaker 2: So I think there's somebody there.
Speaker 7: There's a handful of guys that I will go after
Speaker 7: on the interior defensive line, and there is a running.
Speaker 2: Back that I would go after with a lot. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't give up a first. Wouldn't give up a first.
Speaker 4: Would you would you pay kings ransom for him to
Speaker 4: go and get him?
Speaker 2: Not a guy the King's ransom, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Would you would you pay this much to this mysterious
Speaker 5: running back or would you rather go get fourte.
Speaker 7: I would pay for this running back because my thing
Speaker 7: is teams have to fear you. They have to fear
Speaker 7: attacking something, and then you have to affirm their fear.
Speaker 7: So right now, I don't think offensively teams fear anything
Speaker 7: from the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Maybe CD's the dude, I mean, I understand, but you
Speaker 4: don't look at the numbers.
Speaker 7: You don't fear him because he's not doing anything over
Speaker 7: the top, right, He's getting things underneath. He's making some plays, right,
Speaker 7: and because accumulation of me, I mean, yeah about seven
Speaker 7: eight catches? Okay, yeah, you're gonna get that, okay, But
Speaker 7: I'm talking about splash plays.
Speaker 2: Like there's nothing that you fear right now from this offense.
Speaker 7: So I think if you added this particular person to
Speaker 7: that running back room, I think it would alleviate the
Speaker 7: burden that Tony Poller is carrying right now, and I
Speaker 7: think it would actually improve his game, as we've seen
Speaker 7: in past years, when he has somebody that he can
Speaker 7: play off of, because I don't, I honestly don't think
Speaker 7: he's a one man, one man band. I just don't. Okay,
Speaker 7: that's there's no knock on him. I just think that
Speaker 7: he needs another dog out there, and.
Speaker 2: Most teams do. Most teams have a two headed monster.
Speaker 7: There's very few teams that have one guy that's like
Speaker 7: the main the main guy out there.
Speaker 9: So it would be surprising if they made that move.
Speaker 9: It would because of the position.
Speaker 2: I get it. But what does this offense have to
Speaker 2: be able to do?
Speaker 8: Oh, they have to be able to run the way,
Speaker 8: They have to.
Speaker 7: Be able to run a ball. This is not a
Speaker 7: throwd around type of team. So knowing that that's one
Speaker 7: thing that you have to do, I think that you
Speaker 7: need to have somebody to back there that team's fear.
Speaker 7: So that's the on the offensive side. On the defense side, again,
Speaker 7: I want to interior defense lineman. That's not to say
Speaker 7: that there aren't other position groups that need to be addressed.
Speaker 4: I'm interested, Yeah, I'm intrigued to the fact that you
Speaker 4: you left out offensive line, wide receiver.
Speaker 2: I don't think because line, because the.
Speaker 7: Reality is nobody's trading an offensive lineman at this time
Speaker 7: of day.
Speaker 2: That's not I think that's probably the toughest one to
Speaker 2: go get.
Speaker 4: So you know, it would be the toughest to fit
Speaker 4: in too, because you feel good about your starting five.
Speaker 7: Let's got to figure it out. The depth they's gotta
Speaker 7: figure out. So offensive line is not happening this time
Speaker 7: of the year. You can go out there and make
Speaker 7: a splash play on a corner. But honestly, there's a
Speaker 7: handful of corners that I would consider our shut down corners,
Speaker 7: and they're just not They're just not there any any longer.
Speaker 7: And most teams that have a shut down corner aren't
Speaker 7: getting rid of them now. So so I mean that's
Speaker 7: those are just positions that you just don't come by.
Speaker 7: So there's two position groups, two guys that I will
Speaker 7: go after and that's the impact you guys.
Speaker 2: Trade for a wide out.
Speaker 4: You think a whiteout would help, Nope, because you.
Speaker 2: Can't find a way to get the white out the ball. Now, Okay, it's.
Speaker 6: Fair, it's very fair.
Speaker 4: I mean that's part of it.
Speaker 6: Focus on getting ball to Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 7: First.
Speaker 2: I'm about if you if you plug a dog.
Speaker 7: And that's not to say Osahiggie Zoo is doing a
Speaker 7: heck of a job, but I'm talking about somebody that
Speaker 7: you'd like. M Yeah, I just don't want to run
Speaker 7: against that. Like there's just right now against the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 7: You don't feel good about running the ball against their
Speaker 7: D line because any given time you're looking on the
Speaker 7: sideline and saying, Okay, once I get these guys out,
Speaker 7: who's over there? Well, you got Jalen Carter, Carter, you
Speaker 7: got Fletcher Cox sitting over there, you got you got
Speaker 7: all these branding Grahams over there, just chilling waiting for
Speaker 7: the playoffs to come. So you can show out like
Speaker 7: you got all these guys sitting on the sideline, just like,
Speaker 7: let me go, let me go, let me go, let
Speaker 7: me have the cage. And that's I don't think you
Speaker 7: have that in the interior defensive line.
Speaker 9: When my argument would be that on the defensive line,
Speaker 9: defensive tackles that you're talking about, which you've never you
Speaker 9: haven't told me the names before the show, you haven't
Speaker 9: set them during the show. So I'm just thinking of
Speaker 9: who we have not even discussed this, but insists in
Speaker 9: my head. And the people I'm thinking of, I think
Speaker 9: of them as the same as those shutdown corners that
Speaker 9: I don't really think that teams are letting those guys go.
Speaker 9: And so those are on your upper echelon, and then
Speaker 9: the group that you probably can get a defensive tackle.
Speaker 9: I wonder how much better those guys are than what
Speaker 9: you already had.
Speaker 7: I hear you, and I agree with you, But my
Speaker 7: whole thing is shoot or shoot yeah, shoot your shot.
Speaker 7: You're probably going to get a no yeah, but at
Speaker 7: least open a conversation because these teams that I'm talking about,
Speaker 7: these are teams that are in rebuild phase right.
Speaker 9: Now right But the problem is that what they're gonna
Speaker 9: want from you is none of your players. They're gonna
Speaker 9: want your top picks right here, and you're gonna need
Speaker 9: your top picks because you have to go and spend
Speaker 9: most of your salary cap on your franchise quarterback, your
Speaker 9: elite edge rusher.
Speaker 2: Go to the future again though, here we go to
Speaker 2: the future. I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 7: But this has been the reoccurring issue for Dallas over
Speaker 7: the years. Yeah, we've got to be able to keep
Speaker 7: these things because we need to be able to build
Speaker 7: it for the future.
Speaker 9: No, no, no, And you're talking about what they should do.
Speaker 9: I'm just talking about from covering the team what I think.
Speaker 7: I know not with you, and I don't disagree with you,
Speaker 7: but I'm saying that's what they continue to fall into.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, it's like I have to keep I gotta
Speaker 2: keep this. I need this. I'm not using it really.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 9: It's a difference too, is that he's Howie Roseman and
Speaker 9: he's the GM and if he doesn't do well and
Speaker 9: he swings right now, well he's out of a job.
Speaker 8: Here it's different than that.
Speaker 9: And here, like as I've always thought about that, because
Speaker 9: that's such a big question when you cover the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 9: is Hey, you know, even people that don't follow the
Speaker 9: team like I would just went home for the bye
Speaker 9: week to Michigan and it was around a bunch of
Speaker 9: friends that you know, they'll ask you playing how come
Speaker 9: they can't get over the top, and you know, all
Speaker 9: this stuff like that and everything, and what do you
Speaker 9: think about Jerry really as a GM and stuff like that,
Speaker 9: And I'm like, the difference is is that he's never
Speaker 9: going to be replaced, so the way that he looks
Speaker 9: at it is gonna be different than someone like I
Speaker 9: need to make a splash right now. Like that person
Speaker 9: can get fired if it doesn't work, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 9: Like like Isaiah could be in charge and he can
Speaker 9: get fired for making this decision, but they also could
Speaker 9: win the whole thing, and he could be looked at
Speaker 9: as the savior of the whole thing and be there like,
Speaker 9: you know, but I even look at the Howie Roseman
Speaker 9: thing was, We're like, there's time since twenty seventeen where
Speaker 9: I've seen their fan base like rip him and talk
Speaker 9: about like how this just is in the answer whatever,
Speaker 9: And You're just kind of looking. You're like, you have
Speaker 9: one of the best run teams in the league, and
Speaker 9: so there are those ups and downs when you have
Speaker 9: somebody hired for that position as opposed to when the
Speaker 9: owner does it and but you have to look at
Speaker 9: the evidence and say, twenty seven years without getting there,
Speaker 9: maybe right.
Speaker 2: Like what's the downside?
Speaker 5: Honestly, you potentially lose something on your future, But yeah,
Speaker 5: you take that.
Speaker 8: That would be.
Speaker 2: Like what's the real downside?
Speaker 6: It depends on what you're getting in return.
Speaker 5: But if the return is what it has been for Philly,
Speaker 5: what it was for the Rams in their Super Bowl year,
Speaker 5: what it was for the Buccaneers, then yeah you take that.
Speaker 6: Yeah you take that ten times out of table.
Speaker 2: Those guys walked away with rings.
Speaker 5: Yeah they they got Okay, just make sure that's what
Speaker 5: If you can walk away with that, then anything's worth
Speaker 5: it at this point. And I think Jerry would tell
Speaker 5: you the same, I really do. It's business tactics on
Speaker 5: the fan this morning. I'd be I'd be surprised they
Speaker 5: don't make a move with the deadline.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it would be too.
Speaker 4: So do you think they will make a move because
Speaker 4: I think I think they will make a movie.
Speaker 7: I don't think it's going to be the splash right
Speaker 7: that I'm looking for that I think this team needs.
Speaker 4: I think I'm leaning toward Nick saying it was it
Speaker 4: was more so a a negotiation tactic. It was a
Speaker 4: businessman move on the one O five three the fans
Speaker 4: side this morning. I think they will make a splash.
Speaker 2: You think it would be a splash.
Speaker 4: I think they I think they may make a splash.
Speaker 2: Can quick question?
Speaker 6: Quick question one deten splash.
Speaker 4: Like a screwdriver like happening.
Speaker 2: That's what splash?
Speaker 6: One to ten splash Meeter, what are we thinking? Like
Speaker 6: what we seven?
Speaker 5: Okay, but like von Miller to the Rams a few
Speaker 5: years back.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah that would be a good representation. Good seven Yeah,
Speaker 2: give me like a seven? What I think is going
Speaker 2: to happen? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 2: Four and a half? Four and a half.
Speaker 8: Oh he's hired me as I say four?
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, Well here I'll use an exact example.
Speaker 2: I want an uncomfortable move. I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I'm something as like, oh crap, like I don't care
Speaker 7: who's in that position you're sitting down?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you just want stress?
Speaker 7: Is I want teams to I want first for first
Speaker 7: of all, I want you to bring somebody in that's
Speaker 7: so freaking dominant that everybody in that position group has
Speaker 7: to elevate their game. And I want somebody. I want
Speaker 7: somebody so dominant that other teams are like, oh, okay,
Speaker 7: they're not playing. Yeah, they're not playing, because that's what
Speaker 7: you've seen from your from your biggest rivals over the
Speaker 7: past few years.
Speaker 2: I'm not playing.
Speaker 5: I know we have to go to break backer. Yeah, linebacker,
Speaker 5: anything there.
Speaker 4: Uh, maybe I would like to trade for a linebacker,
Speaker 4: but I don't know about who's out there.
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Speaker 4: We've got some I love this text message. This is
Speaker 4: from the seven oh two. Since I'm not part of
Speaker 4: the organization, I can save the name Isaiah Camp. In
Speaker 4: terms of running back. Uh, this fan specifically not part
Speaker 4: of the organization, is wanting Dereck Henry, and he says,
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's who you were referencing.
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna leave it at that. I don't
Speaker 4: know if that's who you were referencing, but that's who
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Speaker 2: The running back position. We appreciate your infult. Yeah, thank
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Speaker 4: Uh back here with John Michoda, Nick Harris, Isaiah standback.
Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us.
Speaker 4: Did the Cowboys win the bye week is another question
Speaker 4: we have on here from the six h nine. Did
Speaker 4: they win the bye week? Did they get healthy, stay
Speaker 4: out of trouble? I mean, you see Chris o'lave last night.
Speaker 4: That's some interesting news.
Speaker 2: Out of New Orleans.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to really change a
Speaker 4: whole lot from there. He got arrested for reckless driving. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but hey stayed out of the news, as Nate Newton
Speaker 4: likes to say, and that's apparently the case. Nick, based
Speaker 4: off of being around the team and kind of seeing
Speaker 4: some of the guys throughout the week. Did you feel
Speaker 4: like the Cowboys won the bye week?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 5: When everything's quiet for a week, it's it's a really
Speaker 5: good thing. And yeah, I would say so, especially whenever
Speaker 5: you factor in everything that happened in the NFL over
Speaker 5: the weekend. You know, other than Philly beating Miami, I
Speaker 5: think every other result worked in your favor. You got
Speaker 5: the Niners losing, you got the Lions losing, you got
Speaker 5: the Falcons that are taking over the NFC South now,
Speaker 5: which if you have to go on the road in
Speaker 5: the playoffs as a top wildcard, that's.
Speaker 6: Probably an ideal place to go in the first round.
Speaker 5: So yeah, there was a lot of things that played
Speaker 5: into their favor in the NFC, and they stayed out
Speaker 5: of trouble, and they were all back on the practice
Speaker 5: field on Monday, or not on the practice field, back
Speaker 5: in the building on Monday, and Mike McCarthy said yesterday
Speaker 5: that there's no real big concerns with anybody on the
Speaker 5: fifty three men ross right now as far as injuries go.
Speaker 5: So I would say yes, most definitely, big time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: The only way it would have been better is if
Speaker 9: the Eagles would have lost, or if they would have
Speaker 9: made some type of a notable trade, and then I
Speaker 9: would say, yeah, they absolutely won or they absolutely won
Speaker 9: their bye week. But outside of that, getting some guys
Speaker 9: back healthy, nobody, as you mentioned, getting in trouble, those
Speaker 9: are those are huge things during the bye So yeah,
Speaker 9: they should be pretty happy about that.
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 7: I think, yes, I kind of piggyback off what Nick said.
Speaker 7: I think, you know, the teams that you wanted to
Speaker 7: lose loss, Philadelphia didn't lose, but the Miami exposed some
Speaker 7: things that you probably can can utilize. And next week
Speaker 7: the Rams lost. You know, that's that's your next opponent.
Speaker 7: I think all good things.
Speaker 4: All good things in the bye week. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 7: Dan?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 18: Guys?
Speaker 2: How you doing doing good? What's on your mind? Hey?
Speaker 18: A couple of things? Well, what set to think? Is
Speaker 18: that the old line? It's just they're just not getting
Speaker 18: it done. And I don't know if it's Tnique, I
Speaker 18: don't know if Age is caught up with Zach Martin
Speaker 18: will say, or is it coaching or is it just
Speaker 18: a combination of that and the running backs. That's my
Speaker 18: biggest concern. We're not moving people off the ball. That
Speaker 18: happened in San France. You know, if that happens in Philadelphia,
Speaker 18: we're in trouble and we got to get back to
Speaker 18: being that physical old line that we had years back
Speaker 18: with Ron Leary, let's say, left guard. I want to
Speaker 18: get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 4: Thanks, guys, appreciate the call. Dano, As always, Isaiah, I'll
Speaker 4: start with you on this one, because I mean, it
Speaker 4: feels like the Cowboys have been looking for that physicality
Speaker 4: on the offensive line really since Travis Frederick was up front.
Speaker 4: Ron Leary of course what he did upfront two and
Speaker 4: they've been good, especially at times, but at least through
Speaker 4: the Mike McCarthy era, you haven't had this much health
Speaker 4: up front, but you're still having some struggles.
Speaker 2: So what are you at tr tribute that to?
Speaker 7: The continuity is just not there yet. I don't know
Speaker 7: what it's going to take or when that's going to
Speaker 7: kick in. To the point that you brought up in
Speaker 7: terms of the physicality, I think you hit some of
Speaker 7: the stuff on the head. I mean, Tyrant's getting up there,
Speaker 7: not being in like he used to, doesn't seem as
Speaker 7: aggressive as he once was. Martin, you know, Zach, I
Speaker 7: think he's more beat up than we probably know he
Speaker 7: seems like he's dealing with some things. He doesn't seem
Speaker 7: as sure as he's been or as dominant as he
Speaker 7: has been in recent years. So I'm not going to speculate,
Speaker 7: but we just see what the production is on the field.
Speaker 2: I think Tyler Smith is still learning. I see he's
Speaker 2: still learning.
Speaker 7: I think Tyler be Outis is undersized, and you have
Speaker 7: a right tackle that's coming off of ACL and that's
Speaker 7: figuring things out. So I mean, that's the reality. That's
Speaker 7: what you're dealing with. That's not making excuses, that's just facts.
Speaker 7: You couple that with the fact that they haven't played
Speaker 7: a lot of snaps together in a game, and it's
Speaker 7: not the combination that you want.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 7: I mean, the offense is still top ten off is
Speaker 7: when you look at a lot of different a lot
Speaker 7: of different fields. Okay, so it's not as bad as
Speaker 7: everybody thinks, right, their top ten offense in terms of
Speaker 7: rushing yards per game, in terms of rushing attempts per game.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel like it. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It just doesn't feel like it because it's not what
Speaker 7: it once was and what happens is we get spoiled about,
Speaker 7: you know, production from recent years and when you had
Speaker 7: a Zeke and Tony Pollard combination and you had guys
Speaker 7: getting moved off the ball, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: you have a Tony Pollard and Ricodalo combination and it
Speaker 7: just doesn't feel the same, you know, I getting those
Speaker 7: big splash plays. Tony Poller is not the curveball that
Speaker 7: he once was because he has to be the primary back.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.
Speaker 7: Things that go into this, but ultimately, yeah, you're You're
Speaker 7: absolutely right. They're not as dominant as they once have been.
Speaker 7: And that's one of the reasons why I wanted this
Speaker 7: most recent year for them to spend their first round
Speaker 7: pick on the offense a linement.
Speaker 9: And then just thinking back to when they did have
Speaker 9: Travis Frederick and just the loss of him and how
Speaker 9: things have kind of gone in a different direction since
Speaker 9: because you at that time you thought, oh, they're gonna
Speaker 9: have Frederick Martin Tyrant and you just keep building a
Speaker 9: right on this and that's when you can throw in,
Speaker 9: you know, a Ron Leary piece, and you know, heck,
Speaker 9: you can throw in Tyler Smith and who knows where
Speaker 9: it would go, but it just hasn't been that same since.
Speaker 9: So I will say, you know, that's not just a
Speaker 9: different blame beattish, but it is. I look at how
Speaker 9: how little Mike McCarthy has had that number one offensive
Speaker 9: line together in his time just as head coach, and
Speaker 9: it just really has not been there to where I'm
Speaker 9: sure he expected and where I think a lot of
Speaker 9: us thought that, hey, if you keep the continuity here,
Speaker 9: you add in a piece like eventually this group will
Speaker 9: keep growing together, and it just really hasn't happened. I
Speaker 9: will say, I thought it would be better this season.
Speaker 9: We haven't necessarily seen that yet. Talking to Mike McCarthy
Speaker 9: yesterday on his conference call, though, and he was asked
Speaker 9: about that, he did add in there that schematically, he
Speaker 9: says that they are asking a lot more from their
Speaker 9: protection unit than they have at any other time since
Speaker 9: he's been their head coach.
Speaker 6: So yeah, and you pair that with the fact that
Speaker 6: they're banged up.
Speaker 5: All guys are banged up up front, and Terrence Steel's
Speaker 5: the only one that hasn't popped up on an injury
Speaker 5: report so far the season, and he's the one that's
Speaker 5: coming off of an seals here so all these guys
Speaker 5: are just gonna have to find some rhythm, not only
Speaker 5: on the field, but getting healthy. You mentioned the rushing production, Isaiah.
Speaker 5: I think that's a really good point because they might
Speaker 5: tell a different story. It's like, hey, you know there's
Speaker 5: rushing production here, there's a lot of attemts, blah blah blah.
Speaker 6: It's a really good example of stats being deceiving.
Speaker 5: And I know you love this conversation because whenever they stats,
Speaker 5: he is a huge statass guy. Could be Whenever you
Speaker 5: get inside the yes, whenever you get inside the twenties,
Speaker 5: that's when the trenches really become important. And that's that's
Speaker 5: where you've seen the red zone lapses at times this year.
Speaker 5: So I would like to see that group take this
Speaker 5: bye week, or I would like to see coming out
Speaker 5: of this bye week that this group has kind of
Speaker 5: taking it upon themselves to find that extra gear. I
Speaker 5: think they have the right guy leading them with offensive
Speaker 5: line coach Mike Salari. You could point to him, you
Speaker 5: could point to zag Martin. There's a lot of really
Speaker 5: good influences in this room, and I think you have
Speaker 5: a combination of young guys and veterans and guys that
Speaker 5: have been in this league for a really long time
Speaker 5: that can get this thing solved. It's not really a
Speaker 5: huge concern for me, even though I would point to
Speaker 5: it as one of the bigger offensive problems over the
Speaker 5: course of the first six weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the curious case of the offensive line in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three, that's what it ends up. Yeah, because you
Speaker 4: don't know. On paper, you're looking at it and you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 4: these guys are all really good at their position. They've
Speaker 4: all been the Pro Bowls, with the exception of Terrence Steele.
Speaker 4: I mean, these guys are good enough to get it done,
Speaker 4: or I guess Terren Steele and Tyler Smith. But these
Speaker 4: guys are good enough to get it done, and on
Speaker 4: paper you feel very confident. But then the production just
Speaker 4: isn't there.
Speaker 2: So is it technique? Maybe? Is it the coaching staff?
Speaker 4: Like you said, I don't think so, but I mean,
Speaker 4: depending on what your opinion, opinion is could certainly point
Speaker 4: in that direction. But either way, offensive line's got to
Speaker 4: be better going into the post by week part of
Speaker 4: the season. All right, let's go to Ronnie in New Jersey. Ronnie,
Speaker 4: you're on talking Cowboys. What's going on.
Speaker 17: Good morning guys.
Speaker 2: How you guys going doing great? How are you?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 17: Not too bad? So I had this on my mind
Speaker 17: because I've heard coach McCarthy always speak about how this
Speaker 17: year he wants to play to his defense. So with
Speaker 17: the you know, the upcoming trade that I was thinking about,
Speaker 17: a guy from the Broncos. If you really want to
Speaker 17: play to your defense and you want to make your
Speaker 17: screens that much stronger, I would trade for Patrick's certain.
Speaker 17: If you have to give up a first round pick
Speaker 17: this year, first and first or third and maybe a
Speaker 17: second and assist next year, He's definitely worth it. He's young,
Speaker 17: He's only had two years in I believe he has
Speaker 17: like what two or three years left in his contract.
Speaker 17: You put the two outside cornerbacks him and Trayvon Dicks.
Speaker 17: Imagine those three guys, him, Trayvon Dix and dron Bland
Speaker 17: in the flot again. Now you can play to your
Speaker 17: run defense, which is the weakness. Put in the safeties.
Speaker 17: Bring the safeties down, Bring these guys down. You want
Speaker 17: to go one on one, That's what dan Quinn likes
Speaker 17: to play, right man. Imagine that you will fix a
Speaker 17: lot of problems if you trade for this guy. That's
Speaker 17: what I believe.
Speaker 4: What are you guys think Ronnie's out here hitting the rosters,
Speaker 4: He's looking at potential options. I like it, Ronnie, Thank
Speaker 4: you for the call. As always, John, What do you think?
Speaker 9: I'm fine with where they're at a corner? And the
Speaker 9: only reason I say that is because I'm looking beyond
Speaker 9: this year and I want to make sure that I
Speaker 9: would be able to re sign Deron Bland. I'm trying
Speaker 9: to keep Bland and Dig together. You're not paying top
Speaker 9: dollar for four or three four corners. It's just not
Speaker 9: going to happen. I would rather that's my future. I'll
Speaker 9: piece in another guy that you do draft and develop,
Speaker 9: or you signed as a veteran free agent, or I
Speaker 9: can make a move like they did for Steph on
Speaker 9: Gilmour like that. There's just other areas.
Speaker 8: On the team.
Speaker 9: I already have money invested if I'm them in the
Speaker 9: cornerback position, and I have a young piece I'm trying
Speaker 9: to keep. While yes, there are plenty of there are
Speaker 9: other good corners out there and that certainly would help
Speaker 9: this defense, don't get me wrong, But then there's also
Speaker 9: a part of me that I look over at.
Speaker 8: Let's say, like in San Francisco, and I know.
Speaker 9: They were a little bit exposed yet last night, but
Speaker 9: I don't think that you need to have three elite corners,
Speaker 9: because I do think that would hurt you in some
Speaker 9: other areas, because not only do I want to be
Speaker 9: good there, I want to make sure keep this past
Speaker 9: rush where it's at. And then the other part of
Speaker 9: it is we keep talking about offensive line like I
Speaker 9: need looking forward. If I'm the general manager, I need
Speaker 9: to have some answers and where you know, Tyrant Smith's
Speaker 9: not getting any younger, Zach Martin's not getting any younger,
Speaker 9: where am I I got to add some pieces there
Speaker 9: that aren't going to be cheap either. So it's like, yes,
Speaker 9: that would help. And believe me, like you know, not
Speaker 9: not to hate on the Rangers. I'm not trying to
Speaker 9: take anything away from they did, but let's not act
Speaker 9: like they didn't just spend like five hundred million dollars
Speaker 9: in the middle of their of their on second, but Jo,
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, like, no, the Astros are the same way.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that it's not an twist on.
Speaker 8: This, Oh pull them up by the bootstraps.
Speaker 9: No, they pulled themselves up and spend a bunch of
Speaker 9: money in the league where you can just spend a
Speaker 9: ton of money in some magical potion. I'm just saying,
Speaker 9: like a lot of people don't talk about it, but
Speaker 9: it's like I see the Rangers win, and I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 9: that's awesome. Like I would like I'm gonna try Tigers fan.
Speaker 9: When I look at the Rangers win, I'm not like, man, wow,
Speaker 9: that crazy, but I'm like I wish the Tigers would
Speaker 9: spend more money. You know, but baseball different than it is,
Speaker 9: Like there is a salary cap that I understand that
Speaker 9: you can manipulate it and you can overspend in certain areas,
Speaker 9: but at the end of the day, there is a
Speaker 9: salary cap, and so you do have to focus. I'm
Speaker 9: just not like, all right, this is fine, this is fine,
Speaker 9: it's fine. Where's where's our problem? That Just throw some
Speaker 9: money at it. That'll be fine. Throw some more money there. Like, like,
Speaker 9: there is a salary cap, so that does make it
Speaker 9: where it's okay, do you want this player, Then that's
Speaker 9: gonna take a little bit away from what we're gonna
Speaker 9: be able to spend in some other areas we.
Speaker 4: Get we gotta be quick because we do have one
Speaker 4: more call. But I wanted to ask we're talking on
Speaker 4: that one to ten scale earlier of like what would
Speaker 4: be a splash move? Would are you completely set at
Speaker 4: corner with like a four or a five trade?
Speaker 9: Oh be okay, no, no, no, no, there's definitely something that
Speaker 9: that needs certain one injury that.
Speaker 4: Would be incredible. Yeah, but I mean, like you said,
Speaker 4: three elite corners.
Speaker 2: That's a lot to No.
Speaker 9: No, no, for sure, I'm not saying a leap, but
Speaker 9: they are one corner injury away from being some serious
Speaker 9: issues there now with Diggs being out. So no, I'm
Speaker 9: not saying that they're set at corner. I'm not saying
Speaker 9: that you shouldn't go out and make a move. I'm
Speaker 9: saying because again we're not mentioning that player's name, but
Speaker 9: when I'm talking about going after an elite guy like
Speaker 9: that that you're also going to have to pay a
Speaker 9: lot of money going forward. I don't know that that
Speaker 9: really fits in with where this team is right now
Speaker 9: at that position. At least if they had not paid
Speaker 9: Trayvon Diggs and this was like, oh hey, going into
Speaker 9: his final year type thing like that, that particular move
Speaker 9: with that particular individual sounds more intriguing. But now that
Speaker 9: you've paid Digs and then I've seen nothing, nothing to
Speaker 9: make me think that they're not going to want to
Speaker 9: do the same type of thing with Deron Bland.
Speaker 8: I'm not just paying.
Speaker 9: I can't just pay every corner in the league to
Speaker 9: come here and let's go five deep with guys all
Speaker 9: making one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 8: You know there is some strategy that is involved there.
Speaker 4: Isaiah's quiet over here. Would you make a splash move
Speaker 4: like that, because it would it would absolutely hamstring you
Speaker 4: in the future, but it would be enough to at
Speaker 4: least get lock you down.
Speaker 2: For twenty twenty three. Not at that position, not there, right.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna do it, you would.
Speaker 7: Do it elsewhere Nia, because I can. You can out
Speaker 7: scheme some good, really good cornerbacks. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 7: they're gonna still cause you some problems, but you can
Speaker 7: outscheme guys to be open as receivers. The positions I'm
Speaker 7: talking about. You can't outscheme those. You guys got to
Speaker 7: hit them in the mouth.
Speaker 2: Okay, so different different you want to tend, but in
Speaker 2: a different area. I needed were trenches.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and where I can get down to the red
Speaker 7: zone and I don't have to worry about passing.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit you in the mouth. I'm coming down here.
Speaker 6: I let me tell you.
Speaker 5: If there was a position to add, I think a
Speaker 5: terry defensive line would probably be the most impactful, depending
Speaker 5: on who you get, obviously, because it would just open
Speaker 5: everything up.
Speaker 6: All eleven guys on the defense.
Speaker 4: It'd be great. I really I would like to have
Speaker 4: a linebacker two. Yeah, I agree, But like I said earlier,
Speaker 4: I don't know who's out there.
Speaker 2: I really don't know.
Speaker 6: It's the thin position.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not a whole lot going on there, but.
Speaker 2: Hey, there's a lot of ways to go.
Speaker 4: October thirty, first Halloween, four pm Eastern Time is the
Speaker 4: trade deadline, so three pm Central spooky things are gonna
Speaker 4: get way spooky. Tomorrow we're gonna break down the where
Speaker 4: It's Wednesday, so we're gonna break down the Cowboys defense
Speaker 4: going up against the Rams offense. How are they going
Speaker 4: to slow down? Cooper Cup and company. Cooper Cup back
Speaker 4: in the fold, Poka Nakula has.
Speaker 2: Been playing well.
Speaker 4: They've got some guys some weapons outside and we'll talk
Speaker 4: about the Cowboys defensive matchup. Plus we'll hear about around
Speaker 4: the NFL with John Manchota. We'll hear some different storylines
Speaker 4: and some of the things that are sticking out. Uh,
Speaker 4: maybe there's a maybe there'll be a couple more trades
Speaker 4: because we maybe we should hit that Philly trade and
Speaker 4: a little bit deeper because.
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