WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Time to Make a Move 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:07.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:10.520 Cowboys. 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:17.800 This he's Talking Cowboys, screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:27.040 World Course at the Star in frisco Stown. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:33.160 And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.000 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.159 It's a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:46.600 Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:51.520 As we welcome you into week eight of the NFL seasons. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.120 Crazy that we're two months into this bad boy and 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.920 there's plenty to talk about. Man, we've got some reaction 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:01.080 around the NFL in Week seven, the cow Boys were off, 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.360 but certainly things that you can look at and learn from. Uh, 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.120 the Cowboys of course making some roster moves. We'll get 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.920 to all of that. Jerry Jones was just on one 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.800 O five through the fan a couple of moments ago, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.400 and so we'll kind of react to that as well. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.760 But before we get anywhere, you know, you're muted. But 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.000 other than that, Wow, what a start, yeah, oh for oh, 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:22.640 for one. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.200 It's almost like Michael Pennox's start against Arizona. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:29.920 You'm talking about the guy who's winning the Heisman candidate. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.280 Right in week nine, you don't win, you don't win. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:33.319 Huysmans in week nine. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.120 Bars leading the leading. That was weird. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.840 That was like quista. I don't know, for those of 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.200 you listening to this, you just missed out on Isaiah 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.760 laughing without his lap, like his lips moving at all. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:47.280 It was it. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:53.280 So, No, we're not talking about Michael Pennocks. To me, 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:58.720 he's great, though. We're talking about your Texas Rangers. And 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.200 I know there's a mixture of there's cowboys fans everywhere. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.760 There are Cowboys fans that are fans of the Astros. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.920 There are cowboys fans that are fans of the Phillies 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:11.400 or the Diamondbacks or wherever. But Rangers fans have something 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.480 to cheer about today. I'm not going to talk about 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:14.160 it for very long. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.680 Just the fact that they are going to the World Series. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.880 And I'm very excited. Yeah that's it. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:20.800 Yeah, very excited. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.239 I feel like I'm eleven again when they made it 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.120 last Yeah, it was very fun. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:26.080 It was a lot of fun. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.680 But yeah, that's all we're gonna say. Going to the 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:29.320 World Series. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.360 Decisive win too. Yeah, it was fun. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.400 That was a lot of fun. It was very satisfying. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.560 I wish I thought about it. I wish we had 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.880 a thing already last night, me and the wife feet 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.960 and so we took care of that and then had 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.040 to go back over. We watched it at the Inlass 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:46.600 house and it was a lot of fun. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.880 Went to her mom's house and had a good time. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.919 But man, yeah, Rangers get it done. But I kind 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.440 of want to relay it back to the Cowboys because 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.200 there's the there's that frustration I think with Cowboys fans 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.760 or crossover fans right now, with the fact that all 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:02.959 the Rangers can get there. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:03.840 The Stars were. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.239 In the Stanley Cup Final not too long ago. They've 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.960 made these deep playoff runs and then you're getting to 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.400 the point where the trade deadline is on the horizon 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:13.919 and you want a team. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:14.359 To go all in. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.440 The Rangers went all in. They went and got a 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.280 guy like Max Schurzer, who started Game seven late in 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.720 the trade process, to go and find some reinforcements. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.680 That's kind of where we're at right now. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.880 Before we get the news and notes, I'll ask you, guys, 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.440 would you rather the Cowboys based off of what you've 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.080 seen in the first six games. Would you rather than 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.760 be aggressive, Isaiah, or would you rather than maybe take 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.520 the conservative approach to the twenty twenty three. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.840 You know who you're asking this question. I'm just asking aggressive. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.720 You play every year to win the Super Bowl. You 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.160 don't play to position yourself for a Super Bowl run 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.080 three years down the road. You play every year to 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.120 win a Super Bowl. And it's I have applauded the 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.320 front office this year for being more aggressive than they've 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.720 been in recent years. This year they went out and 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.040 they got Gilmour. This year they went out and got 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.840 be Cooks, right, they did those things last year. You know, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.640 they recognized they had a whole They went out and 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.720 got Jonathan Hankins all those key elements, and to their 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.520 success to date, continue that like keep that energy right. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.240 Like there are other teams that we're not gonna mention 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.640 that have historically been aggressive, and almost every team that 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.160 we could think about that has been aggressive has positioned 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.080 themselves for a run that year. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.200 Some of those teams have actually succeeded. 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.440 In those runs. Going to the Super Bowl not necessarily 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.000 win it all the time, and at. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.200 Least you're in a position to win it. Some of 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:36.440 them have actually won the whole thing. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.039 Either way, you put yourself where you need to be 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:40.440 every year. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.840 And I think that Dallas is in another position where 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.680 they can do the same thing. And I would like 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.520 my request early Christmas requests. Okay, all right, you don't know, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:52.359 we're a couple months. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.359 Out, Okay, but my early wishes out there. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.479 Put my wish out there now, okay, is that they 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.520 go out and be uber aggressive. I'm talking ya, ask 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.719 for the things that nobody would even remotely even think 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.080 to ask for, because guess what the answer is always. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.720 What the answers always know. If you don't ask it, yep, right, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.840 shoot or shoot? You can't score if you don't shoot, just. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.240 Saying I can't. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.440 If you made this a poll question amongst Cowboys fans, 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.560 I would be stunned if there was more than one 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.080 percent that said to be conservative and stan Pat, I 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.680 mean twenty seven years without getting to a Super Bowl. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.560 Forget what the other teams are doing in the league, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.599 in the city, I mean, now is the time. And 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.760 then with the team that they have built right here, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.960 you can see where there's just years where not just 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.560 with the Cowboys but pro sports teams in general, where 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.640 you're like, why would you go make that move that's 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.960 not doing anything for that team? You guys aren't even close. Yeah, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.760 Like one potential move could be the thing that you 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.840 look back at in February and go, man, remember that thing. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.120 Remember when they made that move? 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.480 Maybe, man, that was such a difference maker right there 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.440 that helped put them over the top, whether it be 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.719 because of the way the player played on the field 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.440 or the way they were behind the scene in the 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.520 locker room bring in an experience things like that. I 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.520 would be stunned if anybody would say that they don't 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.680 want them to be aggressive right now. Now, with that 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.120 being said, the only caveat I will put into that 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.839 is that you don't want to do anything that would 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:19.200 be so big that it prevents you from financially down 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.120 the road impacting anything that you can do with like 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.680 a Micah Parsons or a CD Lamb. But as long 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.839 as it doesn't do that, as long as it's something 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.320 where That's why a lot of times they're in the 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.640 trade deadline. People look at guys with contracts that are 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.600 on maybe their final year. They only have because then 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.440 it's not going too far in advance. You know, I 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.080 don't see them doing something that would you know, sacrifice 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.560 or I shouldn't say sacrifice, but impact anything on that level. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.960 But everything should be on the table. And I did 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.039 find it interesting how Jerry said this morning about how 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.200 most of the deals are going to come from people 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.920 calling you, because if you call them, they know you're interested, 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.000 and you're just not going to get a good price, 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.080 you know. Like, and I get what he's saying to 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:59.479 a certain extent. He didn't say it this way, but 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.640 it's like, well, you know, you call a team and 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.800 you ask for this defensive tackle and they're just like, oh, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.839 they're interested, yeah, we need two ones from that whatever. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.559 Whereas if another team calls you about a defensive tackle 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:11.800 on their team, that you're like, well, he's not as 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.080 good as this guy, and all they want is it 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.880 too right now, Like we got to take this like. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:15.040 You know. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.160 So I do understand where he's coming from, And I 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.520 also understand when I say that that fans don't want 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:19.840 to hear that. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:21.920 Yeah it's the businessman, and I'm right. I think there 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.640 was a lot of tactical dialogue that went into his 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.640 hit on the fan this morning. Those are my first 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.679 news and note, but I'll touch on this right quick. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.040 Aggressive that that's what they have to be. I think 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:33.880 we all agree on that. You look at the Eagles 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.600 and the moves that they've made over the course of 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.400 the last couple of years, and it could be this 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.720 week Kevin Billard going out and getting him and realizing 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.520 that you made a mistake with CJ. Gardner Johnson and 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.360 letting him walk, and okay, you accepted that. Well, you 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.320 bring in a guy to fill that hole, and you 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.600 fill that hole in the secondary. You look at how 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.440 aggressive they were and getting DeAndre Swift and AJ Brown 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.920 and Jalen Carter even getting up to nine to go 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:56.360 get him. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:01.560 If you break it, you buy it. Isaiah True guys names, Okay. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.880 Beams in the back, like hang it freaking right now. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.520 But when you look at that aggression in the division, 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.880 right and you you want to match that because that's 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:12.520 not only the standard in the division, but that's the 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.600 standard in the NFC, and the way the last couple 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.720 of weeks have shaken out, I think that's also the 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.600 way the entire NFL is kind of being standardized right now. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.040 Is the Philadelphia Eagles all. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.680 That real quick I was also going to say, it's 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.520 not like there's like a really obvious team right now 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.840 that you point to and go, man, look how aggressive 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.840 that team is, and they just keep swinging and missing. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.800 Like when you look at a lot of those really aggressive. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.520 One team, there's only one team that's been uber aggressive, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.280 and not even just this year, and it's the Chargers. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.240 The Chargers was it last year to year before they 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.560 went out there were uber aggressive. They solidified their defense, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.000 they got everybody, they got that bad. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:44.599 They got it. 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.680 I mean, they got the secondary, they got everybody right, 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.280 and you were like, oh crap, here they go. And 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.880 they're the only team that's been aggressive like that and 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.280 has not had the success. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:52.839 Right. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.800 But every other team forty nine Ers success, Philly success, 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.880 Rams success, every. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.599 Single team that we can mention has been uber Aggressivecaneers. 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.040 I mean, I'm just saying the buzz right, all of them, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.240 all of them have been successful except for the Charters. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:08.800 Well, the other thing that has to be factored in 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.840 with this too, that I think really annoys the fans 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.880 side of it is that I would say, whether you're 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:21.920 talking Cowboys fans, NFL fans, or sports fans, like there's 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.960 one thing that they all know about the Cowboys, and 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.440 that's Jerry Jones and his persona is this wildcatter makes 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.240 all these big time crazy things that sometimes they work, 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.480 sometimes they don't, but when it comes to the football team, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.920 they don't see that. And that's one of the biggest 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.319 questions that's not just with your fan base, but around 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.160 sports that are just kind of like this seems like 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.480 a move, like for example, like some of the moves 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.280 that you mentioned with the Eagles and then also San 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.319 Francisco stuff like that, those are the type of moves 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.720 that you're that you think that the Cowboys are always making, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.920 you know, and instead the Cowboys make a lot of 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.199 they make a lot of calculated moves. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.280 You know, they don't there isn't a. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.640 Lot of swing for the fences things like that, And 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.800 I think a lot of times it comes from maybe 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:02.920 one didn't work out, so it's like we're not going 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.680 to do this again type thing. I'm not sure, but 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.720 I just I find it interesting that that is the 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.320 that is the reputation, is that Jerry will do anything 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.240 he needs. But then they sit there and they're also 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.480 kind of like, well, why didn't they why haven't they 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:16.800 made it? One of these aggressive moves. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.280 You know, you guys would probably be able to answer 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:19.959 this a little bit better than I could. When was 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:21.920 the last time that the Cowboys went out and made 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.400 a mid season acquisition that just blew you away? I'm 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.679 talking like von Miller to the Rams that that mid 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.400 season Mark Coop Cooper. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.640 Mark Cooper, that's the one. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.880 I mean, round one pick, sent it for sure to 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.959 Oakland at the time, almost said Las Vegas, but it 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.199 was still in Oakland whenever he was there. So that's 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.480 the last time it happened. And I don't know if 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.360 that played a huge factor in the fact that they 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.839 won't do anything or they haven't done anything. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:50.840 Like that since then. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.480 But they really didn't like going in that twenty nineteen 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.640 draft without a first round pick. They hated the fact 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.319 that they did not have a first round pick. In 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.760 the twenty nineteen draft. They took Tristan Hill in the 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.440 second round and it didn't work out the way that 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.160 it wanted to from a second round pick there as well. 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:06.960 Well, let's say a Mariy Cooper helps them run to 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.839 a Super Bowl? Do you think they then I. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:09.640 Think they feel better. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.720 But in the end, that didn't happen. They didn't get 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.960 to an NFC championship game. They were aggressive, they went 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.080 out there, and they got it done. I think this 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.720 roster is just as good, if not better, even with 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.080 some of the injuries that they've had, as that roster 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.800 was going into it, I think this roster is in 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.160 a similar situation. Yeah, I think it would have been 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.440 better if Trayvon Diggs was available, if Laton vander esh 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.440 was fully healthy, if you felt better about your offensive line. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.120 I still think they would be in a better situation 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.400 as this team is made up here in Week eight 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.320 of the twenty twenty three season than even that team 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.560 was before they went and traded for Amari Cooper. But 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.679 I think the other thing that factors into it, and 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.080 John kind of alluded to this a moment ago, but 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.080 the way that the NFL has kind of shifted these 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.120 last two weeks. This last two weeks have been very 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.720 interesting because you got the Cowboys getting blown out by 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.680 the forty nine ers in Week five, and that was 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.800 a big benchmark moment for the entire league saying, wow, 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.560 forty nine ers are it? That team is legitimate, They're 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:06.600 almost unstoppable. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.280 Boom. They've lost two straight games. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.160 The Eagles fell to a not so good Browns team 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.640 with a backup quarterback, a backup running back and tons 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:15.560 of injuries as well. 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.440 Or what no, that was who beat San Francisco? Excuse me? 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.560 Philadelphia lost a week before they won last week. But 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.600 in the end, the NFC good teams but still wide open. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.080 Are you on the same echelon right now as the 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.600 Cowboys or are the Cowboys on that same echelon as 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:35.120 Philadelphia as San Francisco? I don't think you can say that, 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.200 But you can't say that the NFC is wide open 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.600 and any team can win in any given week right now. Well, 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.000 and that makes me want to be more aggressive, that 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.000 makes me want to shure up some of the problems. 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.400 So that way you can argue that you're in that echelon. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:48.040 Yeah, don't. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.079 I wouldn't put them in with the Niners and Eagles 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.360 right now. But fortunately for the Cowboys, in two weeks 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.080 you'll get to find out. You know, you can go 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.040 out there and play the Eagles and have your best 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.560 game of the season, and maybe that'll show that you 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.560 do beloe in that in that echelon. But right now 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.199 I wouldn't put them there. I would put the Eagles, 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.040 uh number one, Niners two, and then there's a little 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:07.320 bit of a drop off, and then that's when you 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.240 get to probably the Cowboys and the Lions. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.760 Do you think that that's an interesting conversation. 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.839 Do you think the Cowboys are even there with the Lions? 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:15.400 I know you'll. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.400 Get the Sunday Yeah, and the penultimate to get their 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.079 doors going off by the Ravens way they did. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.800 The Lions said, yeah, you think if they would have 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.439 played a tight game against the Ravens, I might have 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.160 felt differently, But delay that egg the way they did 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.640 that was worse than the Cowboys loss than Niners as 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:30.360 far as I'm concerned. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.640 Yeah, that's fair. I mean that was not what was 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.000 it thirty eight to six the final, and it. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.120 Was difficult to even get that six. Yeah, Lamar Jackson 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.480 looked like the greatest football player ever. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:41.520 He's falling. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.319 He might be falling, He's not, definitely not, But no, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.000 that guy in that game, that guy plays for the 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.600 University of Washington, right right right, best player in football 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:51.960 really quick. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.080 On that same point, Jerry Jones said on the fan 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.320 this morning talking about that upper echelon conversation, he said, 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.360 we belong in the upper echelons. I'm not going to 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.240 say we belong on the field with san Fran and 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.520 we haven't played Philly, so I don't want to go 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.440 that far. But we're in the upper echelon. So they're 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.280 in the upper echelon, but yet they're not on the 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:09.559 same field as san Fran. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:10.679 I don't know, you take that. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:11.920 There's an upper upper uchelon. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:12.560 Also. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.400 The other thing with those two teams too that I 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.680 find interesting is like going back to the whole Eagles, 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.800 how aggressive they've done. It's not like they've hit on 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.080 everything and they've overcome it. You know, they gave the 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.640 big contract to Carson Wentz and found a way to, hey, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:25.880 let's overcome this. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:27.840 It sucks, but we're going to make some tough moves. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.520 And they're gonna have to make some tough moves going 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.760 forward now that they gave the big contract to Jalen Hurts. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.200 Their offensive lines obviously not getting any younger, and that's 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.760 been a huge part of their team. It looks like 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.520 it's in its prime right now, but they're going to 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.120 have to keep making those But you look at the 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.440 way that they're doing things and you're just like, you're 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.240 pretty confident that they're going to be able to find 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.000 ways that if they don't get it in the draft, 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.800 because I don't think there's any arguing the Cowboys draft 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.240 better than the Eagles. The Eagles fill in their holes 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.440 when they need to, very aggressively. 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:53.840 Yeah. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.520 Well, I mean you could say the same thing about 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:59.000 San Francisco. San Francisco has traded all these first round picks. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.600 They've given it up ball all these different assets along 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.600 the way to go get a Trey Lance who's on 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.440 this roster now, and you go and you pay the 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.680 money to Jimmy Garoppolo and he's not even on the 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.400 roster anymore, and now you're playing. You get lucky and 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.400 you got a guy like Brock Purty who turns into 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.239 being Brock Purty as opposed to being just mister irrelevant. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.600 But there's a lot of things that that have to 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.640 go right for you to be in the current situation. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.920 But Isaiah, you can also make things go right for 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.600 you if you really want to and just push that direction. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.360 Yeah, there's two there's two position groups. Two guys. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.600 I can't say names because obviously they're on rosters and 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.480 we don't want tampering. But there are two positions I'll 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.040 say that, I would say that, I. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.760 Would you not doing that. I'm not doing that, right. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:48.840 There is a actually there's two defensive linement one of 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.320 them probably not accessible, neither of them probably accessible. But 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.600 there's two defensive defensive linment that I would go gung 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.360 ho for. Okay, interior defensive linment that are just complete 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.240 dominant guys that you could put next to john Than 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:05.880 Hankins that I feel would completely negate team's abilities to 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.960 run the ball against you. They're doing a good job 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.800 of stopping teams from running the ball against them. But 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.440 let's let's not be fool like. If something happened to 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.960 Jonathan Hankins, you're gonna be with the bubble guts, Okay. 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.600 Not wishing that all your first round pick has a 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:18.040 step up. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.080 So he's not ready yet, Okay. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.160 I think he will be a good player, but currently, 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.280 right now, he's not ready to make an impact on 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:24.680 this team. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:25.080 Okay. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.160 So that's not to say anything about his future, it's 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.840 just where he is currently, and a lot of people 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.360 don't have the patience for that because of where he 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.960 was drafted. He's still a human being, Okay, so give 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.120 him time and hopefully he'll be the impact player, but 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:36.520 let's not count on that this year. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.000 So I think there's somebody there. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.680 There's a handful of guys that I will go after 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.120 on the interior defensive line, and there is a running. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.840 Back that I would go after with a lot. I 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.280 wouldn't give up a first. Wouldn't give up a first. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.560