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Speaker 1: the phone? It's the Fread Show. Lee's good morning, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the program. How are you good morning program? Huh

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Speaker 1: that sounds serious the program?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's how I say it sometimes. But what's going

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Speaker 2: on with this guy Noah? We want to help you

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Speaker 2: out on waiting by the phone. You feel like maybe

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Speaker 2: you're being ghosted? Tell us kind of everything. How did

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Speaker 2: you guys meet? I want to hear about any dates

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Speaker 2: you've been on, any details you want to share, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to try and figure this out right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I met Noah through this indoor volleyball league we

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Speaker 3: both joined this winter. One of them one of the

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Speaker 3: sports like social club companies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I just kind of wanted to do.

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Speaker 3: Something active being that it was colder outside and uh

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Speaker 3: not for nothing, but I heard there were a lot

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Speaker 3: of single men there, so why not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people do that volleyball, they have like softball, leagus,

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Speaker 2: you can sign up for soccer stuff. Yeah, you name it,

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Speaker 2: and it's all just guys. Is like being active. But

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Speaker 2: let's face it, people trying to get some Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, sade, right, it's all good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little too lazy for that. But still

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Speaker 2: I gotta go kick a ball to meet s I

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Speaker 2: mean like.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm good, but then you can go.

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Speaker 3: You can go to the trivia meat group, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Also have to leave the house for that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking one day if the door desk driver

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Speaker 2: is the hottest person I've ever seen, male or female

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Speaker 2: at this point, just whatever, okay, yeah, and engaging in

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Speaker 2: his door career.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you you joined on a door to a.

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Speaker 3: Side note, have you been getting male names and then

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Speaker 3: a female shows up or female names and then a

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Speaker 3: male shows up keeps hopping to this, yes, thank you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that actually makes me a little nervous side note

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Speaker 2: because it's like wells, whose account is this registered?

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Speaker 1: Like, why can't you deliver?

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Speaker 2: Who is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So we asked the guy the other day and he

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Speaker 3: said it was his mom's.

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Speaker 1: Like why were you? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So you you joined this league to meet a person,

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Speaker 2: and then what happens?

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Speaker 3: I meete a person. I met Noah And it was

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Speaker 3: after a few weeks there, and we started talking about

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Speaker 3: getting a drink after volleyball, and we did, and I

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Speaker 3: think it went really well. So I know it went

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Speaker 3: really well because we planned a second date, which was

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Speaker 3: more drinks and dinner and uh again, I see and

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Speaker 3: dinner and that went really really well. So we went

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Speaker 3: back to his place, we had some fun, and then uh,

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Speaker 3: Noah built the arc and rode away into the sunset.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so after two dates and a hookup, you never

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Speaker 2: heard from him again. He never called or to great

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Speaker 2: I mean okay, and you reached out and it was.

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Speaker 3: More I'm sorry to cut you off. It was kind

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Speaker 3: of more of like a fade away. It wasn't just

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Speaker 3: then eventually stopped. So I don't know what the deal is.

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Speaker 3: This was not like a random thing. We like really

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Speaker 3: got to know each other and then hooked up. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't like one of those things where we just kind

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, and after two dates and all the

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Speaker 2: rest of it. So here's what we're gonna do. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna call Noah in just a second. You'll be on

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Speaker 2: the phone, Liz. At the same time, we're gonna ask

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Speaker 2: and the hope is that we can straighten it all

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Speaker 3: Sound good, awesome, Thank you so much, guys.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Liz, I'm here. All right, let's call Noah. You guys,

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Speaker 2: you went on a couple of dates. You met actually

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Speaker 2: which is so exciting and which it makes sense. I

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Speaker 2: it's cold, some kind of indoor event makes sense. You

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Speaker 2: meet this guy, you go on two dates. The last

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Speaker 2: date you hooked up, you thought everything was really headed

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Speaker 2: in one direction, but you have not heard from this

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Speaker 2: want to know why?

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Speaker 1: That sums it up pretty well, thank you. All right,

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Speaker 1: well let's call him now. Good luck, Liz.

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Speaker 4: Thanks?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Is this Noah? Hey? No, hey, Hi, good morning. My

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Speaker 1: name is Fred.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the morning radio show,

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Speaker 2: and I have to tell you that we are on

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Speaker 2: the radio right now and I would need your permission

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Speaker 2: to continue with the call. Can which have for just

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Speaker 2: a second? You can hang up anytime? Yeah, I guess, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: thank you Noah. We're calling on behalf of a woman

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Speaker 2: named Liz, who I guess you met. You were playing

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Speaker 2: sports together, were a volleyball and you went on a

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Speaker 1: You remember, Liz, I do?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So she called us that, Oh well, hold on,

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to tell you where we're at here.

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Speaker 2: She she called us and liked you a lot, told

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Speaker 2: us about the couple of dates that you guys have

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Speaker 2: been on, but says that you haven't reached out since.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm just curious and maybe you maybe you

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Speaker 2: knew what I was going to ask, But you know,

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Speaker 2: why is that?

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Speaker 1: Are you ghosting her? I think it.

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Speaker 4: First of all, let's just start here. It's insane that

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Speaker 4: you guys are calling me, first off, and secondly, especially

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Speaker 4: for her. Oh she's we We we did meet playing volleyball.

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Speaker 4: It was great, We got along well, we went out

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Speaker 4: put my finger on it. And then finally, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, for a long long time, and all of

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Speaker 4: that this best friend of hers is her ex boyfriend.

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Speaker 4: Now these two spend time together, they go to family

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So so Noah, you're getting to know Liz. You guys

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Speaker 2: are going on these dates and she keeps referring to

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Speaker 2: they do together, and I don't know, like if I

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Speaker 2: guess if it's me and I hear that they're sleeping

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Speaker 2: family stuff. If I'm being really honest, I just assume

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Speaker 2: it's a gay best friend.

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Speaker 1: If it's a.

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Speaker 2: Guy, I mean, it sounds like it sounds like, you know,

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Speaker 2: out they did. They did date, but they still do

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Speaker 2: all these things eleven years, eleven years and so the

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Speaker 2: eleven years and it sounds like they're still dating. It

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Speaker 2: kind of sounds that way. But she describes as man

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so she's got this guy in her life that

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Speaker 4: dogs everything with her. What does she meet Noa for?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what does she need Noah for?

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Speaker 2: In the third person, I would I agree, what does

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Speaker 2: she need Noah for? And here to answer that question

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Speaker 2: is Liz. I forgot to mention that Liz is here. Liz,

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Speaker 2: you left Ali the ex ale. That is a very

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Speaker 2: honest reaction. You left out the eleven year relationship. Dude,

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Speaker 2: who still sleeps in bed with you once a week.

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Speaker 2: You left that out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, first of all, I can't believe

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Speaker 3: how insecure Noah is. I mean, a girl can't be

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Speaker 3: I have so much to say. I can't even believe

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Speaker 3: he's freaking out about this. It's so crazy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: me and me and my ex are not meant to

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Speaker 3: be together and it's not physical at all, but we'll

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Speaker 3: always love each other. You know, He's always going to

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Speaker 3: be a staple in my life. He's my best friend

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Speaker 3: for many years, and we just we tried the dating

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Speaker 3: thing and it didn't.

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Speaker 1: It's not for us.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I bet a hundred bucks that that would

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Speaker 2: Conversations well, I mean honestly, if it was a woman

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Speaker 2: who you had data for eleven years, I think the

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Speaker 2: concern would be the same.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what we're.

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Speaker 3: Talking about is DGE double standards.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: What we're talking about here is a is a relationship

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Speaker 2: of eleven years that was at one point romantic, and

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Speaker 2: it sounds like it's everything. And you're saying but the sex,

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Speaker 2: but it sounds like it's every bit as intimate as

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Speaker 2: it was. And so another person comes along and they're like,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, that would be my job, and that

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Speaker 2: dude's not going anywhere, and you're talking about it so openly.

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Speaker 2: I guess I can see the reservations.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, I just I understand to a degree.

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Speaker 3: But it's just like something you got to get over.

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Speaker 3: Like they'll meet, they'll hang out, and he'll realize this

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Speaker 3: guy is not that and he'll realize run the best frind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the ma's going to be in your bed by

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Speaker 1: ten pm? Because why are you sharing bay? Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: gay and I don't sleep in a bout with another

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Speaker 1: many of time. Why is he in your bed?

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Speaker 4: Girl?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know struggles for cuddles, man.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: It is physical.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I would argue that's more intimate than other

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Speaker 2: things that you could do in bed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I live.

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Speaker 3: Teddy Bear, you know. I mean I've heard this before.

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Speaker 3: The guys were like, well, I guess you can't have

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Speaker 2: what are you gonna like? Why is this other person?

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Speaker 2: Why there are no boundaries?

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Speaker 1: That's run.

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Speaker 3: It's my best friend. I mean, I wants to be

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Speaker 2: Great best friends that don't cuddle with you in bed

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Speaker 3: Many many years ago, and he's still friends with my

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Speaker 1: It's not you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the guys that go.

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Speaker 3: About this too, I don't know if it would ever

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Speaker 2: So, oh, no, so Matt, Matt gets the best friend,

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Speaker 1: Then, so so we ask.

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Speaker 3: Matte doesn't get to make the decision.

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Speaker 1: But he gets a vote in who you date my

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, your ex boyfriend gets a vote in who

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Speaker 1: Well, he's in bed with you.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean, if it works for you, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: but you got to realize it's it's not gonna work

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Speaker 2: for a lot of other Yeah. Okay, Well anyway, look,

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Speaker 2: I'll ask the question, Noah, do you want to try again?

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Speaker 2: Maybe Madd'll come. Maybe you can beat Mad. Do the

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Speaker 1: Oh be more clear.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's aggressive. That's okay. So that's a no for Noah.

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Speaker 2: All right, Liz, Look, I wish you a best of luck.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like you had a great friendship, and I hope

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Speaker 2: that you can find somebody who's comfortable with all of them. Okay, Noah,

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Speaker 2: we got we've heard enough from you. Let's let's just hope.

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Speaker 2: Liz Yeah, is going to be weird now, it's going

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Speaker 3: Another place to play.

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Speaker 4: It's cool, all right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both for your time invested, luck for both

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Speaker 1: of you. Thank you