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I did a little rapid fire 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: podcast today, just went over a bunch of stories that 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: are floating around out there on the interweb about the NFL, 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: and we banged it out. No mail bag today. I 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: will do an enormous mail bag for Thursday. I'm going 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: out of town, going up to Tahoe, but I'm gonna 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: do a podcast before I go up to Tahoe. I 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: think with Coward on Thursday for Friday. So tomorrow will 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: be my last podcast of the week and then we'll 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: have pot with Coward on Friday. 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I don't even need to thank you, 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: just hammer that promo code. Appreciate everyone that has used it. Okay, 66 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: where do we want to start. Let's start with Washington. 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: And I said it on the podcast yesterday. A bold 68 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: take that I had told Coward a while back was 69 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: that I like the Commanders to be a sleeper team. 70 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: I've changed my opinion, and a lot of that is 71 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: because of the buzz coming out about Jacoby Brissett, Sam Howe, 72 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: major question marks, and just ultimately the Giants are kind 73 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: of growing on me. Darren Waller seems healthy and engaged, 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: high at the wide receiver out of Tennessee. Seems to 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: be We knew he was a speed demon, but it 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: seems to be a good player. Saquon's in camp, just 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot of good vibes. I believe in the coach 78 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: that maybe I shouldn't have ever taken that take, and 79 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: I have no problem pivoting off it before the season 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: even starts. Well, there was a situation coming out of 81 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: Washington in the last twenty four hours that made me 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: feel pretty good about my red flag before I even 83 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: knew that there was some shit going on. Now, let 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: me preface everything by saying this, football is not like 85 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: these other sports. In basketball, players no longer get yelled at. 86 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: In baseball, you don't even look at the guy making 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: thirty forty million dollars weird because he might opt out 88 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: of his contract and leave you. In football, it's still 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: probably the lone sport where guys get yelled at literally 90 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: every single day, and it's pretty normal if you go 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: to a football practice. It is not like any other industry. 92 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: Never worked in Wall Street. They always say it's crazy, 93 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: looks crazy in television shows, But is it actually still 94 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: like that? I don't know. Are the trading floors for Goldman, 95 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Sachs and some of these companies still batshit crazy? Probably 96 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot different now than it was in the 97 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: eighties and the nineties. Football is still a place college football, 98 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: pro football, even high school football. Probably a little less 99 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: swearing in high school, but definitely in college in the 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: pros if you walk out to practice, people are getting undressed. 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: It's an aggressive sport. So when I see stories about 102 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: coaches being overly aggressive, I tend to not think it's 103 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: that weird. Right now, Ron rivera an old school guy, 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: pretty sure. Ron Rivera played for the eighty five Bears, 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: known as arguably the toughest team in league history, definitely 106 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: the best defense in league history, right, or at least 107 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: we hold it to that standard, came up and just 108 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't like teams or reporters were prying 109 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: for information. He just gave out the information that players 110 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: have been coming to his office knocking on the door, 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe as an open door policy, so they just walked 112 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: right in and been complaining about the new offensive coordinator, 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Eric Biennemy. Now that statement in it of itself is 114 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: very weird because coaches, unless a story breaks, usually don't 115 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: just give out information that weird shit is happening behind 116 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: the scenes. That is the last thing that they ever 117 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: want to do, let alone just actively give out. And 118 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: he created a story, I would say, almost out of 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: thin air. Maybe I'm missing an element or an angle 120 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: or variable to this story, but the way that I 121 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: have read this story is that Ron Rivera at a 122 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: press conference just openly acknowledged kind of out of nowhere 123 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: that players were complaining. And then today Eric Viane me 124 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: had a press conference and was asked about it as well, 125 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: and to me, why this is a red flag, not 126 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: because coaches are yelling or coaches are coaching guys hard. Whatever. 127 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: It's football now, I would say typically offensive coaches don't 128 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: attack it on a consistent basis of I don't know, anger, edginess, aggression, 129 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: not as a whole offensive lines or coach very hard. 130 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: But the skill guys, the quarterbacks, I'd say, can be 131 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: used with kids kid gloves at times. Though every offensive 132 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: coach and every coach is different, and I never have 133 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: a problem with the guy being authentic. Be yourself right. 134 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Why did Dave Portnoy just buy back barstool because he 135 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: had to follow regulations when he works for the gambling 136 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: company and they're better off being unfiltered. That's what the 137 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: consumer demands in twenty twenty three. If you're not being authentic, 138 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: I'll short you as a business. If you're in the 139 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: talking business, you got no chance big picture. Maybe short 140 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: term you can figure it out, but long term, just 141 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: be who you are, tell me what you really think. Now, 142 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to coaching, when you deal with players, 143 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: or when you deal with a g or deal with anybody, 144 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: you got to be authentic. But when it comes to 145 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: dealing with the media, you can one hundred percent lie. 146 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: These teams do it all the time. So Ron Rivera, 147 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: who this is not his first rodeo to just throw 148 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: this out there a little weird, honestly, very weird. Like 149 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: I got some theories. Did he not want to hire 150 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Eric Vienemy and this was forced on him? I've seen 151 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: some theories as he's doing this now to try to 152 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: ruin the enemy because that's going to be the next 153 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: head coach. Well, we've talked about it on the show. 154 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: They have a new owner. Why does Josh Harris care 155 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: about any of these people if it's all a failure. 156 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: He's going to fire everybody if they do not make 157 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and even if they do, all these guys 158 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: could lose their job. Could this just be more he 159 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: wants to I don't know. I just find the whole 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: situation very bizarre. This is not something you typically see. 161 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have new head coaches that the owner forces 162 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: a former coordinator on because that guy had success. I 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: think Jerry and Kellen Moore right, or an owner really 164 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: likes that guy. But that's not the case here. To me, 165 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: this situation is just weird. I mean, let's just call 166 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: what it is. It's not normal, not because he's outing 167 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: them that he's being too aggressive. Yeah, some coaches are aggressive. 168 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: This guy coach for Andy Reid and Andy's m O. 169 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: You know, for a decade, Andy's m O is not 170 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: screaming at guys. All coaches operate a little differently, just 171 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: based on their own personality. What makes it weird is 172 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: that he just volunteered this information to the media and 173 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: to the public that players are knocking on his door 174 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: or like I said, open door policy walking in. That 175 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: is not information that any of us would be privy 176 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: to unless we literally knew a player or a coach 177 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: on the staff and they were telling them that. Again, 178 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: unless I'm missing something, this had not been a story 179 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: that was out there until Ron made it a story 180 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: a little weird, and let's face it that there is 181 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people would not make Eric be enemy 182 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: a head coach, and it became a enormous story with 183 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: the racial element and the minority coaching staff or minority 184 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: coaches getting opportunities, especially from a guy that was working 185 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: for the number one team in the league finally gets 186 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: a shot to truly his own run his own offense 187 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: away from Andy Reid, who, let's face it, calls plays 188 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: or at least has a huge huge role in the 189 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: play calling. Now gets his own shot, and there's already 190 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: in a weird way of controversy surrounding this. Now, I 191 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: don't have necessarily much sympathy for random guys, like if 192 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: it's Sam Howell pounding the door that b enemy's being 193 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: too mean, I don't care, and who knows who these 194 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: players are. But the situation is just already weird. There's 195 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: no way around it, especially when you factor in new ownership, 196 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: people coaching for their job, and just if Ron gets fired, 197 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: it's not just a lock that b enemy's the next guy. Honestly, 198 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: if Ron gets fired, that mean things are going pretty 199 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: poorly and everyone's problem. So situation already got a red 200 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: flag Washington weird spot, only getting weirder the Tampa Bay 201 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: Buccaneers put You know, I still disagree with coward on 202 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield should retire because you don't want to ruin 203 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: your brand. I don't think it's possible to ruin your 204 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: brand enough in the NFL. If ultimately you go to 205 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: talk about college as a media personality. RG three was 206 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: a joke as a quarterback, and he's having a successful 207 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: career right now, at least the end of his career 208 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: right Matt Lioner's career relative to college was an embarrassment. 209 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: Herbstreet never even got to the league. Joe Klatt, I 210 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: don't even remember passes he threw in college. I don't 211 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: think any of it matters. If you're a big personality, 212 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: if you're good at TV talking about college, no one 213 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: cares what you actually did in the pros. Now, I 214 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: do think that Baker's situation, you know, is clearly getting weird. 215 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: It's getting weird fast, and now he's it's not just 216 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: he's in a quarterback competition with Kyle Trast. Anytime they 217 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 1: put or between your name and someone else as a quarterback, 218 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: pretty big red flag about the situation, because the long 219 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: standing kind of saying has been if you have two quarterbacks, 220 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: you don't have one. Sometimes in college that's not necessarily true, 221 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: but in the pros it definitely is. And I saw 222 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: it in San Francisco today when they release their depth 223 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: chart with their second string quarterback, No second, potentially third 224 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: string quarterback gets discussed more than Trey Lance. Now, part 225 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: of that is because of his draft status, and part 226 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: of that is because you know, no one talks about 227 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson anymore, and a big reason for that is 228 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: he got Aaron Rodgers. So it's just like, let's just 229 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: talk about Aaron Rodgers twenty four seven through sixty five. 230 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: But I even see it with a large forty nine 231 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: or contingent online. It's like part of it is because 232 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: of where Purty was drafted, and only Purty's only started 233 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: seven eight games, what has he done? So people act 234 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: like Trey Lance should still be the starter, and the 235 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: irony is he could end up being the third string quarterback. Right, 236 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: So when you put an or between your name, it's like, well, 237 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna marry her. It's like, yeah, I could go 238 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: with Megan or I could go with Julie. It's like 239 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: you're leaving yourself an option, which, let's be real, do 240 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: you even like either of them? And that's how I 241 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: feel like, do Tampa like either of these guys? The 242 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: other thing is when you put yourself in a situation, 243 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: and we did this last year. It's why I'm very 244 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: hesitant to be like, this is gonna be the worst 245 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: team in the league. I thought that about the Giants, 246 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: I thought that about Seattle and both those two teams 247 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: were in the playoffs, So like, I think Arizona's gonna suck, 248 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: feel pretty confident about that. But if you told me 249 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: that they draft eighth and not one believable, you know, 250 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: I think Tampa's going to be terrible. But if you 251 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: told me they draft seventh and not one believable, but 252 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear they're going to be pretty bad. 253 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: But unless you have a first year head coach, and 254 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: even those guys, it's proven over and over just because 255 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: like you know, oh, this guy's gonna get several years. 256 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: We see a lot of one in dubs the NFL. 257 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: You never know. But the likelihood that Todd Bowles is 258 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: going to be the coach, let's just say they are 259 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: terrible and they have the number one overall pick for 260 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: Tampa next year, you're just telling me he's just going 261 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: to be able to just handle all the bullets flying, 262 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: all the negativity, all the ugly losses. Even if we 263 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: all acknowledge they suck next year because they got the 264 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: number one pick, I would probably bet against it. I 265 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: really would. And you know, Jonathan Gannon, you'd think he's 266 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: going to get multiple years. Maybe because the owner quote 267 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: unquote's cheap. But they've had a one and done before. 268 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: They did it with Steve Wilkes when they fired him 269 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: and they went with Cliff Kingsbury, so they're just is 270 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: no guarantee just because you're going to be terrible, and 271 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: that's not how coaches operate. Hell, once upon a time, 272 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: the owner with the Miami Dolphins was like, hey, Brian, 273 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: I'll pay you like one hundred and grand a loss. 274 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Just keep losing so we can get this Joe Burrow 275 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: guide LSU. And he's like, yeah, I'm good. I'm going 276 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: to attempt to win because it's the NFL and I 277 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: ain't tapping out now. I've said over and over it's 278 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: one of the dumbest mistakes in the history of the 279 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: league because if you gave him Joe Burrow a couple 280 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: of years ago with that defense, I mean, it probably 281 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: is the Dolphins in the Super Bowl, not the not 282 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals, right, and obviously to who's better than probably 283 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: the way that I talk about him sometimes, But he 284 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: definitely just had some injury issues and if you could choose, 285 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: you would take Justin Herbert over Tua. Every to a 286 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: diehard would have to admit that so the situation that 287 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: they change fast, they get weird fast, and it really 288 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: is crazy. Like, I don't blame Tampa. They went all 289 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: in on Tom and it had incredible benefits. They won 290 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: a super Bowl, they were making the playoffs, they were 291 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: one of the premium brands in the NFC. With Tom, 292 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: I would have done the same thing. The forty nine 293 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: ers are very very lucky to be in a position 294 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: where just a couple of years ago they trade all 295 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: these picks for Trey Lance and going into his third season, 296 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: going into his third season, there's an ore between his 297 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: name as the backup quarterback. If I would have said 298 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: that the moment they them, I would have been like, 299 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan fired. Is this organization? I mean, are they 300 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: winning four or five games a year? It's like now 301 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: they're going to NFC Championship games back to back years. 302 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: They're one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl SOT. 303 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: They got very lucky. They hit on a lot of 304 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: other players. The coach is clearly pretty dynamic offensive play caller. 305 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: And I don't want to say struck oil with Purdy 306 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: because there's no guarantee that Perdy is like some ten 307 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: year starter but he's definitely good enough in the short 308 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: term to make them very, very competitive. So you have 309 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: an or between your name as a quarterback. That's a 310 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: problem this story. I think both these two parallel each 311 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: other because I think I struggle with NFL teams and 312 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: NFL coaches and NFL executives to take their words and 313 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: give it a lot of validity and give it a 314 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: lot of like and think it's actually what they're believing, 315 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: because unlike Ron Rivera, most executives and most coaches manipulate lie. 316 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: They don't tell the public the truth because it's competitive disadvantage. 317 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: What's the point, right, So just because I say I 318 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: will not trade player X, doesn't mean that I won't 319 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: trade that guy tomorrow if I get the right offer, 320 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: or doesn't mean that behind the scenes, even if I 321 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: don't want to trade that guy, we are entertaining all 322 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: these options. I remember once upon a time, John Gruden 323 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: got hired and he's like, I came here because a 324 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: car and Khalil Mack. And by the start of the season, 325 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack was on the Bears. So you just now 326 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: there are other variables. Did the owner have the cash 327 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: to pay him? Signing bonus, like there's a lot of 328 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: moving parts salary cap but still we have seen enough 329 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: over and over and over. You never believe, at least 330 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: the positive side. But when someone tells you the negative side, 331 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: like when Jerry Jones goes, we're moving on with or 332 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: without this guy, I think you kind of gotta believe 333 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: him because usually it'd be easy to do the company line, 334 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: which is his company. He'd be like, listen, we want 335 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Zach to be our starter. He's one of the best 336 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: players since I've owned this team. We love the guy. 337 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: We do what it takes to work at work something out, 338 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: even if he has no intention of giving him a raise. 339 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: Usually just kind of bullshit your way through. And Jerry 340 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: is just king bullshit artists, and he is saying over 341 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: and over and over again. You guys are talking about 342 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: it a lot more than we are. There are ramifications 343 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: form not showing up. There's a fine system. He knows 344 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: the drill. We have no intentions of paying him giving 345 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: him a RaSE. We've already given him a lot of money. 346 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: We've compensated him on a high level. Like Jerry's laying 347 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: this out for you. The other thing, it's not like, well, 348 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's not like they're signing other guys constantly. 349 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: They gave Digs enormous extension. I missed this one. I 350 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: heard someone mentioned it and I googled it yesterday or 351 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: right before we came on the podcast. They just gave 352 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: Malik Hooker like twenty four million dollars guaranteed, like eight 353 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: million dollars signing bonus. So it's not like they're not 354 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: giving out money left and right to other players on 355 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: the team. If you're Zach Martin, it'd be one thing. 356 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, they're holding strong. I'm holding strong, But 357 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: they're signing other players. Now. Granted these players have been 358 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: successful for him, but I can't imagine that's pissing them off. 359 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: Even more so, it's a double wammy. Jerry's saying, like, 360 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: we ain't budget, and two we're handing out money two 361 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: guys that we think are all in and think are good. 362 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: So talk about a situation that's already I don't expect 363 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: Zach Martin to show up anytime soon. Now do I 364 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: expect him to miss games? Fourteen million dollars, it's almost 365 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: a million dollars a game. I don't, but prompts to 366 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: Jerry for not just capitulating. This is not an NBA 367 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: team here, you know, it's not just give in to 368 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: whatever your demands are. Jerry's Jerry's holding the line. And 369 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: on the opposite end, I haven't asked these guys about him, 370 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: but I know how good the Chiefs not just think. 371 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: But no Chris Jones is I think on the I 372 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: don't put much stock into it. We don't talk about 373 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: it on the show the Top one hundred players. I 374 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: think Chris Jones came in the player's vote and number 375 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: ten clearly. Last season non quarterback, he was a top 376 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: five player in the NFL. He was in elite dominant 377 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: player on a team that won the Super Bowl, that 378 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: had the MVP of the league. And they have three 379 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: guys that are Hall of Fame guys, right, Mahomes, Kelsey 380 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: and Chris Jones. But the Chris Jones situation is like 381 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: he ain't budget, wants more money now. Veach told the 382 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: Kansas City Star that part of the reason, and he's 383 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: I don't think he's just making this up right, and 384 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: technically he's not. But I don't think he would just 385 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: say this with the intentions to trade him because he's like, listen, 386 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: we do not intend on trading this guy. Part of 387 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: the reason we made the move last year with Tyreek 388 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: Hill is we knew this situation with Chris was going 389 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: to come up. Like money Wise and I listen, we 390 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: have been told before by other gms and other coaches 391 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: about we plan on signing this guy and they ultimately 392 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: trade the player. But as I said over and over, 393 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are in super Bowl mode right now. They're 394 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: trying to win Super Bowl every single year. It's they're 395 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: at the point which they're the only team now. The 396 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: only team that has been this way for twenty years 397 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: was the Patriots with Brady and Belichick. It's super Bowl bust. 398 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Like losing in the Championship game is a letdown. Losing 399 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl is a letdown like that was. 400 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: It's a letdown the day of the game when the 401 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: Eagles lost to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. But 402 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: if I would have told every fucking Eagles fan at 403 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, you're going to be the 404 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: number one seed. You're gonna kick the shit out of 405 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: the Giants. You're going to knock out the Niners quarterback 406 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: and beat the hell out of them and lose a 407 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: barn burner the Super Bowl to Andy Reid, the Chiefs, 408 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: you would have signed up for that, right. The Chiefs 409 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: do not sign up at the beginning of the year 410 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: to lose the Super Bowl because they think they can 411 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: win it every single year. So trading him, even big picture, 412 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: if it could accumulate a couple first round picks or 413 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: a first and a couple twos and a player whatever, 414 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: is just good business. I don't know if they're really 415 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: in the position to risk trading an elite player, but 416 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: I've said also this, anytime you start signing a guy, 417 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: a non quarterback, to a third contract, it could get 418 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: a little risky because that's when guy fall off. Now, 419 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: it's not like this guy's thirty three years old. He's 420 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: I think twenty eight, twenty nine years old. He still 421 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: potentially could have three or four really good years left. 422 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: Definitely a couple good years left. But it's a tough 423 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: situation because he plays a position that you know, he 424 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: probably wants a hundred million dollars guaranteed right now. It's 425 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: not like he's just give me a little raise, you know, 426 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: Zach Norton just wants a raise. Just give me my money. 427 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: What is the high end of the position. Chris Jones 428 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: wants a new contract. You know, hey, man, I want 429 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: a three year extension one hundred million dollars averaging over 430 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: thirty and guarantee me seventy eighty million dollars. That's what 431 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm asking for. And though anytime you get those contracts, 432 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: when it's the third one for a player, right his 433 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: rookie contract, he then got an extension, now he wants 434 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: a third one. It's complicated because in the history of 435 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: the league, only a small percentage of guys just maintain 436 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: that high level of play for a long period of time. 437 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: A lot of guys fall off a cliff, right, And 438 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: when a guy falls off the cliff for you and 439 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: you're paying him a premium in a salary cap lee, 440 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: it can limit you. Ultimately, I think something gets done, 441 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: but the situation is complicated. Even with the guy of 442 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: Chris Jonestown Jonathan Taylor, situation is just weird. You know. 443 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: I think it's clear that after that phone call with 444 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: the running backs, he was amped up. You're right, you 445 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: had all the rich guys telling him take a line, bro, 446 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: make them pay you. Christian McCaffery huge contract Chubb, huge contract, 447 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: Dereck Henry huge contract, even Saquan's like, yeah, sounds good, 448 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: I'll take my eleven million dollars. Jonathan Taylor, I think, 449 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: took everything they said to heart and got emotional and 450 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: showed up a camp and started cosmin ruckus. And now 451 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: at first, right, there were some rumors did he have 452 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: a non football injury? Is it just the contract? And 453 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: now he's got this ankle injury that he had an 454 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: ankle injury last year? Like is this guy banged up? 455 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: Because when you're banged up running back, teams are less 456 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: likely to pay you just because you play running back, 457 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: even if you're really good, right, they are less to 458 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: just be like, oh yeah, I give him whatever other 459 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: positions like tackle, DN, wide receiver again safety if I 460 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: like you, hell Derwin James been banged up a million times, 461 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: Chargers like we love this guy, pay him running backs? 462 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: Like we do? We? Oh, we sure can we find 463 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: seven other guys on practice squads that can equal this 464 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: guy's production for a total of four million dollars instead 465 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: of giving this guy twelve. Then you will talk yourself 466 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: out of it the moment you're injured and you're not 467 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: practicing you are much less likely to get paid. Right. 468 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: I think in general, any human being that wants to 469 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: get paid in any industry just produce. If you consistently produce, 470 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: it's impossible to not get paid. Right. I don't care 471 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: if you're an actor. I don't care if you're a 472 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: sales guy. I don't care if you're an NFL t 473 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: If Jonathan Taylor had produced last year at the rate 474 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: in which he was producing, it would be impossible to 475 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: argue that, Like listen to colts, you need this guy. 476 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: He's a high character guy. He's an elite player with 477 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback. But it's like got last Sure he 478 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: got hurt in his third year, and now he's still 479 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: hurt coming into camp. Are we sure this guy's a 480 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: durable player. It's not like he's thirty years old. He's 481 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty three years old. I was asked, I think the 482 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: volume is going to put out the most underrated We 483 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: did the most overrated player, easy pick for me, James 484 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: Harden and most underrated player, which is hard, like you 485 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: could pick a million players. The guy that I picked 486 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: was Ladanian Tomlinson because I think he's one of the 487 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: greatest football players. I've ever seen, but he doesn't get 488 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: talked about that much right relative to like his era. 489 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: If you just think about players from the last twenty years, 490 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: even non quarterbacks, I think you start rattling names before 491 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: you ever get to him, Aaron Donald, JJ Watt, Ray Lewis, 492 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: ed Reid, Darrell Reaves. You start firing around Trent Williams 493 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: and Ladanian Thomlinson. When you look at his numbers for 494 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: eight years, for eight years, from his rookie season till 495 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: the end of his eighth season, he missed one game, 496 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Basically like if Christian McCay after he played eight straight 497 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: years and missed one game, Think about the value that 498 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: guy brought to the tape. Every fucking time you stepped 499 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: on the field, you knew la Damian Tomlinson, who was 500 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: one of the best players in the NFL, was gonna 501 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: be dressed up in raided role. And his numbers backed 502 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: it up every single year. Fifteen hundred yards, twelve thirteen 503 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns, fifty sixty catches every year, year in year out. 504 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is going into year four. He already missed 505 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of games last year and he's still hurt 506 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: now coming into camp. He's like pay me. It's like, bro, 507 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: can I depend on you? It's one of the reasons, 508 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm just starting to do more podcasts. Why would 509 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: I not do more podcasts? Football seasons here podcast has 510 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: momentum to bang podcasts out every single day all answer 511 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: the bell? Why wouldn't I? We got sponsors, let's roll right, 512 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Why do three when I can do five? This? I'm 513 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: not digging ditches here, right. The thing in the NFL, like, 514 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: no one wants to get hurt. I don't, obviously, Jonathan 515 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: Taylor wants to be healthy. But some guys get in 516 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Some of it's dumb luck, some of 517 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: it's legitimately, like you know, your bone structure degenerate, neat whatever, Right, 518 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: every human beings, bodies are different, but either playing the 519 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: games or you don't. Right, Remember forever Eli Manning did 520 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: not miss games, Brett Fahr did not miss games. The 521 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: most famous one when I was a kid was Cal Ripken. 522 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: There's something to be said about every single day whatever 523 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: you do. I don't care if you're the librarian, you're 524 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. The people paying you just know you're 525 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: going to be there every single day and then if 526 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: you're talented, more often than not, you're gonna produce at 527 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: a high level. And once you start getting like the 528 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: injury red flag. Whenever I get asked this question, like 529 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: if I go on a radio show, like, what do 530 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: you think is value? Is? Is value? Teams are going 531 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: to trade for an injured guy at running back? You 532 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: guys crazy, what are we talking about? Austin Eckler, who 533 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: has I don't have his numbers up right now now, 534 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: but like forty touchdowns or something in the last couple 535 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: of years. He's been a touchdown machine. He's awesome, incredible 536 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: pass catching back. They literally like chargers are like, yeah, 537 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: go see if you can find a trade. Man, we're 538 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: not giving you a raise, but see if you can 539 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: find a trade. No one would trade for him. And 540 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: then even Austin Eckler was like, yeah, you know, the 541 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: problem is to get them to agree. Someone has got 542 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: the trade a high pick and no one was willing 543 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: to do that. It's like, well, that's kind of the market. 544 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Those are the decision makers. I say this all the 545 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: time about the running backs on that zoom and they 546 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: get all amped up, and they get a bunch of 547 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: fans all amped up on social media. None of that's relevant. 548 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Nothing that happens on Twitter. There's not one thing that 549 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: happens on Twitter today that has any relevancy for anything. 550 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't impact any of what's actually happening in society. 551 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking sports, I'm talking politics. It's all bullshit, right, 552 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's all fake, but I'm just saying 553 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't actually have an impact on anything. It never does. 554 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: So when all these guys were screaming on Twitter quote tweeting, 555 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: it's like, are you guys talking to the coach and 556 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: the GM They are the people that pay you. They're 557 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: the people that you need to be making this case too. 558 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: They're the people if you're going to play like attorney 559 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: you need to be making your closing arguments to. Talking 560 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: to seven fans with numbers in their apt names on 561 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: social media is going to have zero impact, I promise you. So, 562 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: the Jonathan Taylor situation just continues to get weird. One 563 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: situation that's kind of funny slash weird slash just I 564 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: like it. John Gruden is currently in a lawsuit with 565 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: the NFL, and by all reports, in all accounts, he 566 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: is literally trying to take down Roger Goodell and the 567 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: powers that be in the League office because he thinks, 568 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: and rightfully so, that they intentionally fucked him with the 569 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: email leaks. They were coming after Dan Snyder and then 570 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: they leaked to the Wall Street Journal in the New 571 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: York Times all the emails that he sent, but that 572 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: never would have got out if it wasn't for someone 573 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: in the League office, and the League office, if you 574 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: read the articles, completely denies it. I don't know. I mean, 575 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: I think John Gruden probably onto something that Roger did that. Well, 576 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: the Saints, who once upon a time with bountygate again 577 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: self inflicted, got thrown a penalty, coach was gone findes 578 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: they clearly aren't buddy buddy with the NFL. I would 579 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: say two groups of people that don't they probably fake it, 580 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: but do not respect or would go out of their 581 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: way to do anything to help Roger Goodell in the 582 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: League office would be Belichick and Sean Payton. And the Saints, well, 583 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: the Saints are currently parading John Gruden around at practice now, 584 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: granted in a vacuum, not that weird former coach for 585 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: their quarterback. In theory knows offense, I always thought his 586 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: offense with the Raiders was a little underwhelming, but they 587 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: have pressure, so having another set eyes not that weird. 588 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: You see former coaches all over the place. Leslie Fraser, 589 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: who I heard was taking a year off, is all 590 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: over these training camps. Let's just call a spade a spade. 591 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: I like Schean mcrurmott, you fired him, but John grudinick 592 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: camp that is the ultimate, which I appreciate. Double fu 593 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: to the league office. You think the league office wants 594 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: a guy who's suing everyone in the league office starting 595 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: with the commissioner wants this guy at NFL practices right now? 596 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: Of course not. And the Saints, who clearly know this, 597 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: don't care. And I kind of like that pettiness because 598 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: you know for a fact that pisses Roger Goodell off. 599 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: How could it not even if Roger Goodell knows that 600 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: he's kind of guilty of leaguing these emails and that 601 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: eventually a judge or an arbitrator or whoever is going 602 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: to figure this out. But this is a story that's 603 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: not going away. And this is why you got to 604 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: be very careful about like, and Roger's in a tough 605 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: spot right making the enemies with Bill or the Saints. 606 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: He did. He probably should have got out of the 607 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: penalty business a long time ago because it's never consistent. 608 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: It always feels personal, or he's giving a penalty because 609 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: other owners want him to give it, like with Belichick 610 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. It always feels like he can never win 611 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: in that situation. This one, if the Saints respected him, 612 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: would have been an easy one. They would not have 613 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: John Gruden a practice to get filmed and have pictures 614 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: taken out of him. I think this tells you everything 615 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: you need to know the Saints, not bigger Roger Goodell, 616 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: guys Sean Payton. I always think in college, whenever you 617 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: fire a coach, usually go the opposite right, So you 618 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: get a player's coach he gets fired, usually go tough guy. 619 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: You get a tough guy, that guy doesn't win, you 620 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: fire him. Usually go players coach. Sean Payton, semi unique right, 621 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: famous name a lot of people were interested, was going 622 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: to be very expensive. Nate Hackett, who clearly is a 623 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: player's coach. Now you could argue how good of a 624 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: player's coach is a pretty ugly thing. In Denver when 625 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: they hired Sean Payton, he kind of came in guns 626 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: blazon immediately drew a line in the sand. Russell Wilson's 627 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: personnel helpers were not going to be allowed. The only 628 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: people coaching Russell were going to be the coaches that 629 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: Sean Payton hired on staff, which, listen, I'm all for now. 630 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: I thought the reason that the office and the separate 631 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: locker room was such a big deal was because they 632 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: lost and he sucked. Peyton Manning got the same treatment 633 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: in Denver. Most quarterbacks in new facilities have their own office. 634 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: Why they're at the facility longer than every player, right, 635 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: it's not that weird. The reason the situation with Russell 636 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: got weird he sucked two guys didn't like him. Guys 637 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning was never an issue. You think Tom 638 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: Brady has his own office in New England, probably why 639 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: he's at the office longer than everyone else. But to me, 640 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: Sean Payton feels like he's like going overboard on some 641 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: of this. I saw it day that he said no 642 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: Gilligan hats, which means, you know, for us bald people, 643 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: it's one that protects our a whole hat. The guys. 644 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: When you see players on the sideline wearing stuff, it's 645 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: all a swag or gear if the team gave them, 646 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: Like they're not buying the Gilligan hats. Right. The bucket hats, 647 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: I think is a millennial's column at the team's store. 648 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: Literally the equipment guy is handing them to him. Last 649 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: I check. There a lot of bald guys in the league. 650 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's that weird. Right, you could 651 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: argue some guys pull off a bucket hat better than 652 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: they do ad visor. You're allowed to wear a visor, 653 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: but not a bucket hat. Sean Payton said, no sunglasses, 654 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: which I understand inside, Like I never understand sunglass guy inside, 655 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: Like I've put him on. You put him on inside, 656 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: how do you see anything? Like I outside, I need 657 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: him because my eyes are sensitive. But inside, especially in 658 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: the dark, like you don't see anything. But what if 659 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: you're playing a preseason game at one o'clock in the 660 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: afternoon and you're not playing, you can't wear sunglasses? What 661 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: if you have sense to I think that's a little 662 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: bit overkill. The other thing is, and I get trying 663 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: to draw a line in the sand, but I think 664 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm not trying to act like I know more 665 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: about running a team as a head coach than Sean Payton, 666 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: but he was big on when you quit playing or 667 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: when you're out of the game, keep your pads on. 668 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: And I agree, like, if you're a newly drafted guy, 669 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: you're not a lock to make the roster. But and 670 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: I don't even have to think about like who on 671 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 1: their team is really really established? But does it bother 672 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: you if like Micah Parsons takes his pads off after 673 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: a series or Patrick Holmes takes now you could argue 674 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: that their roster is not in a position. But like, 675 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think we're starting to worry about 676 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: some things that don't necessarily matter. And maybe this will translate. 677 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm two teams I don't think are going to be 678 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: any good. Are the Broncos in the Rams? I'm pretty 679 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: confident now I think the Broncos will be better than 680 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: the Rams because they have more talent. But I don't 681 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: know if I'm buying the Broncos. And I'm not saying 682 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: it just because of these rules for preseason games, but 683 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: are they really necessary? A couple things with Mike Vrabel, 684 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: He's having the d line coach coach the preseason game. 685 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: I would say that's a good idea. Why wouldn't you 686 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: have an assistant coach, you know, call plays, just mix 687 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: it up. The preseason game is basically an extension of 688 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: practice times. Just mix it up, like, hell, have your 689 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: starting quarterback call some plays, like it's a time to 690 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: throw curveballs. Now, this is an African American guy. It's 691 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: a good opportunity. Uh, just a cool gesture by Mike Rabel. 692 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: Mike Rabels is just a high level guy, just kind 693 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: of gets it, you know. He just he's an impressive coach. 694 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: So if I turn out to be wrong about the Titans, 695 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: which I'm pretty confident I'm gonna be right, but if 696 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: I am wrong, it'll be because of that guy. He's 697 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: the only coach knows what he's doing, leadership scheme, do 698 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: just a winner. So I don't feel great betting against him. 699 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: Don't love betting against Got no problem betting against Stefanski 700 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: or Sean McVay coaching with like two players, right, or 701 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: even Sean Payton coaching with a wash Russell Wilson. Mike 702 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: Rabel bad division, you know, I yeah, it makes me 703 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: a little nervous. But the other thing he said which 704 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 1: was interesting is Malik Willis is currently the number two 705 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: on the depth chart, and he gave him a lot 706 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: of preyse just his his improvement from year one to 707 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: year two. And it's the number one thing to keep 708 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: an eye on in the preseason. I don't put much 709 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: stock in the starters, good or bad whatever, especially established players, 710 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: but young guys who haven't done much, who look good, 711 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: who are making plays, especially if there's been positive momentum 712 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: in reports at training camp. That's a good thing because 713 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: the biggest growth and jump you should have as a 714 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: young player is really between year one and year two, 715 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: and even potentially year two and year three, when you 716 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: kind of just establish yourself as a starting player in 717 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,479 Speaker 1: this league. And anytime you know, a highly drafted guy 718 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: in year two got to play a little as a 719 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: rookie is in these preseason games against the backups, he 720 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: should stand out. Right when you see the G League 721 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: and sometime times like the second year players are scoring 722 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: forty in like Summer league, like, yeah, that should happen, right. 723 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: Keegan Murray for the Sacramento Kinks played in a summer 724 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: league game score like forty five points. Yes, what he 725 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: should kick the shit out of everybody. If you're a 726 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: second rounder and you're gonna be a good player, and 727 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: you're in year two and you got to play a 728 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: little as a rookie, like you should run circles around 729 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys in the preseason game when 730 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: the backups are out there, right, So the standards should 731 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: be hot. It's why the coaches hold you to those. 732 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's it for to day and football. Baby, 733 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: it's back the volume.