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Speaker 2: Going to be best for you and not what somebody

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Speaker 1: And that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald. Our theme

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Speaker 1: is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.

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Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For you and maybe the size of your chain, it's

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Speaker 1: time to stop reading other people's success stories to start

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Speaker 1: living your own.

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Speaker 2: Cape Wedning my first guest.

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Speaker 1: He is a New York Times number one New York

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Speaker 1: Times bestselling author of more than forty books, and founder

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Speaker 1: and senior pastor of The Potter's House, located in Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 1: His television ministry program, The Potter's Touch, is watched by

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Speaker 1: Grammy Award winning music as well as hit films from

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Speaker 1: such movies as Heaven Is for Real, Miracles from Heaven,

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Speaker 1: and Jump in the Broom. Please welcome the Money Making

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Speaker 1: conversations Bishop TD Jakes.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Bishop. Did I lay you out there? Did I lay you.

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Speaker 3: Out that I wondered.

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Speaker 2: Your story is.

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Speaker 1: I've been fortunately and blessed to have met you over

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Speaker 1: the years in my working relationship with Steve Harvey. You've

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Speaker 1: never disappointed and you you've laid a path of opportunity

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Speaker 1: for individuals like me to say I can do this.

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Speaker 2: And when I look at the book that we're going.

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Speaker 1: To talk about, Soil build your vision from the ground up,

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Speaker 1: it is truly a person's blueprint for success as an

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Speaker 1: individual and especially in entrepreneurship. Why did you decide to

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Speaker 1: do it this time, sir?

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Speaker 3: You know it was It was really a lot of

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Speaker 3: liability is my own career. People see you as clergyman,

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Speaker 3: they have difficulty seeing you as anything else. And yet

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Speaker 3: the elephant in the middle of the room is I've

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Speaker 3: done over five hundred million dollars worth of films grossed

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Speaker 3: and now during television with Lifetime, done a lot of

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Speaker 3: when I look around at our communities. It's not just

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Speaker 3: preaching that we need. We need information about business, about entrepreneurship,

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Speaker 3: recreating our lives. People who were a second chance citizens,

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Speaker 3: ex offenders, how do they get back up on their

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Speaker 2: It is important.

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Speaker 1: And before we even get into the book, it's two

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Speaker 1: give my listeners the background. Launch in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 1: the TORII program has served over ten thousand formerly in

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Speaker 2: But ten thousand, Bishop Tdjakes, it's not.

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Speaker 3: The number is actually up to seventeen thousand now that

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Speaker 2: You know, all these A score website to go to, Black.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I'm telling everybody right now.

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Speaker 1: The show Money Making Conversation is designed for entrepreneurship. Free

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Speaker 2: You better believe it.

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Speaker 1: And that's another reason I'm gonna I'm gonna keep putting

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Speaker 3: My mother bought so much real estate that they ended

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Speaker 2: That's to your book, my friend. So build your.

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Speaker 1: Vision from the ground up. You broke it up in

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Speaker 1: The first part one expand your vision.

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Speaker 3: You know, you are no more than the thoughts you think,

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Speaker 3: and it's very, very important that you span your vision.

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Speaker 3: You're back to ground level zero. You have not used

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Speaker 1: Bill your wings and clear the clouds.

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Speaker 3: You have to bill your their own wings. I use

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Speaker 2: You know, we know what you do. You're a bishop.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I love about this book because you're

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Speaker 1: I love this book, sir. And wow, I know it's

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Speaker 1: I know it's I know it can't stay on the shelves.

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Speaker 1: The thing about it is that I've always been a

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