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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Jenkins and Jones listeners, welcome to a

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Speaker 3: special final four preview of the Beast Bracket episode Here

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Speaker 3: with us. First order of business. Unfortunately, Mike is not

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Speaker 3: going to be here with us today. He's vacationing in

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Speaker 3: Japan as we all know. So it's like Michael, yeah, coachy,

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Speaker 3: So I'm not even going to try to do the

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Speaker 3: fucking intro that you know Mike always up on. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know my limitations. That shit will be weak as fuck.

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Speaker 3: You ever see the movie Liar, Liar, When when?

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Speaker 4: When? When? When? When? Jim Carrey when when when? When?

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Speaker 3: When the dude dating Jim Carrey's X try to do

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Speaker 3: the claw shit? I'd be like that dude, you don't say,

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Speaker 3: try to do that shit like it's the claw. He's

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Speaker 3: a professional, you know what I mean? Yes, so, so

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Speaker 3: in the memory of our man Mike, we're not going

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Speaker 3: to do that. I am Tyler A K. Dragonfly Jones.

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Speaker 3: We've got my man John aka le Jetho Jenkins where

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Speaker 3: we have a very special guest here today joining us

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Speaker 3: here for our very special Beast Bracket Final four PU episode.

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Speaker 3: This young man right here has established himself as a

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Speaker 3: legend in the world of animal commentary. He has a

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Speaker 3: too New York Cities. That's two of them, right, and honestly,

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Speaker 3: the following is well deserved. He is one of the

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Speaker 3: One of the best, definitely one of definitely my personal favorite,

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Speaker 3: obviously the favorite of millions of others as well. His

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Speaker 3: you'll learn, you'll laugh. Sometimes he'll hit you with some

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Speaker 3: grateful that you weren't born a caribou or a gazilla

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Speaker 3: or some shit. But you're gonna learn and you're gonna

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Speaker 3: be entertained. So, keeping in the spirit of Beast Bracket,

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Speaker 3: This young man right here is the Killian Mbappe of

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Speaker 3: this discussing big horn rams in the Rockies, the Yiannis

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Speaker 3: The Victor Women Yama breaking down hyena drama, the Jamarrant

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Speaker 3: of discussing carmorants, ladies and gentlemen, Jenkins and Jones listeners.

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Speaker 3: We have the one the only Mama do John, my man,

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Speaker 3: mama do.

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Speaker 4: How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Brother?

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you hopping on for real with us. Man.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm super excited to be here. Thanks for reaching out,

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Speaker 1: and I just got to say. That's a one introduction

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that. I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: Gianni's Apparently I look like his little brother. That's funny. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Man, hit me up, we'll discuss you know. You know,

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Speaker 1: All right, So I get that question a lot, and

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Speaker 4: The most possible. That boring ass sound again.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, but uh yeah that's answer number one. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and it's a it's a lie, It's a complete lie.

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Speaker 1: Answer number two is I have no idea all those

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Speaker 1: I really can't tell you where it came from. Like

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Speaker 5: When did you realize you was bullming? Like when'd you

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Speaker 5: look at yourself like, damn this, Like you were just

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Speaker 1: Probably wasn't until I started getting like recognized for it

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Speaker 1: I was every single video I made, it was like

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Speaker 1: funniest thing, because they don't recognize me by like my

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Speaker 1: me to be like tiny. I never understood that and uh.

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Speaker 1: Also when I don't wear the hat in public, they don't.

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Speaker 1: that's sometimes I want to lie just to like see

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Speaker 3: God the homies can tell you. In the group chat,

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Speaker 3: Clark Kent analogy was the exact analogy I use in

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Speaker 3: So like like that is like perfect because you've got

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Speaker 1: I would. I would hate to be like you know

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's that's that's why why I knew

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so you know I know you wrote a book.

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Speaker 3: I know the premise is one hundred animals I will

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Speaker 4: They're strong though, the ways that can fuck you up right, Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the African wild dogs castworries terrifying, most dangerous

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Speaker 5: Putt the spotlight on me. My logic is the rules.

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Speaker 5: We're dropping everybody in an arena. Everybody's back is to

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Speaker 5: One blow to like a wild dog would at least debilitated,

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Speaker 5: it's not aggressive.

431
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:28,719
Speaker 4: It runs.

432
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 5: There's one of them and they're pack hunters and they

433
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 5: take it out right, But there's eight of them. They're

434
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,880
Speaker 5: back to the wall. You can't chase them because there's

435
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 5: nowhere to run. So they're just attacking each other. So

436
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 5: it's like you know, you know, to me, it's like

437
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 5: in a in a in a in the squared circle

438
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 5: like an octagon or some shit, you know, when you

439
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 5: can't use your benefit of tying everybody out, you know

440
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,199
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, how do you fare? And I

441
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 5: thought the castaways would pull it off in that situation.

442
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 5: So it's based on the rules, Like I mean, in

443
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 5: the wild your logs make the whole thing.

444
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,640
Speaker 4: Is is the castwey attack takes so long to wind up.

445
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 3: They got to put their whole fucking body into leaping

446
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 3: forward at you right like, like even if they could,

447
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 3: even if they do connect with the wild dog, another

448
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 3: wild dog is hopping on that motherfucker as soon as

449
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 3: he connects.

450
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 5: It's a little over two to one, So that's the thing.

451
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 5: Like I mean, if it's like fifty to eight, it

452
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 5: makes more sense to me. But I mean, there's they're

453
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 5: much smaller, you know, I don't know, I mean, how

454
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 5: are they gonna how do they how do they attack?

455
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 6: I'm wondering how how the wild dogs attack?

456
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 4: They basically jump you right.

457
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: Uh, depending on what type of animal it is. For

458
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 1: a bigger animal like a castworry. They probably just wait

459
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: for an opening, wait until one of them has their

460
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: back towards the castword or the other way around the

461
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 1: cast word, it turns it back to it, they bite it,

462
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: it bleeds, and the castworry at that point realizes injured,

463
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: probably runs, and that's when it starts. They all just

464
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: like converge on them. And I imagine the tactic would

465
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 1: be different if there's like multiple but since castwords are

466
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: naturally like solitary, they're not unless they could make like

467
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 1: a protective circle or something, and anything that gets near

468
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: gets kicked down. I don't see them working together like that.

469
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: So really all it takes is them getting hit. Once

470
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: get they start bleeding, and that's pretty much it for them.

471
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: That's when like they they know how to like cut

472
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: you off from like the group. They know how to

473
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: like run you down. And like if even if, like

474
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: you said, even if you kick one, and since there's

475
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: only one castawary like against like multiple dogs, you missed.

476
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: If you missed that one hit, you're getting like probably

477
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 1: I don't know, like maybe three or four like dogs

478
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: like on your ass. Like it's it would be really

479
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: hard for them to win. That one with with.

480
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 5: The numbers, it only be basically two to one, you

481
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So like that's why, like how

482
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 5: many casts in the wild how many wild dogs would

483
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 5: be chasing a castaway if there was one, Like honestly.

484
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: It could just take one a lot of times. Like again,

485
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: like castle, they only attack when like they have no

486
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: other option because they even they know, like I'd rather

487
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: not have to get into this, yeah, but if I

488
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: have to that their one advantage for the castwory is

489
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: that because they're so tall, they can land blows like

490
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: pretty much anywhere on the wild dog and if you

491
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: like cut its throat or something like with those claws,

492
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 1: that's game over. That's one less dog in the world.

493
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

494
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 1: But uh again, like those the way and the way

495
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: they can clamp down like they do this to Like

496
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say buffalo, those are too big, but I

497
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: guess will debes like the bigger like antelope. They they

498
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: know like what their game is, and African wild dogs

499
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: know how to like kind of just they know how

500
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: to like play the long game and just wait for

501
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: an opening and eventually nerves are gonna get the best

502
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: of you and you're gonna make a mistake and they're

503
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: just gonna attack you for it. I like that spurs

504
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: analogy you made, because that's kind of how they operate.

505
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: It's like this all for one kind of thing. Uh.

506
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: It's a cute fact. They actually let like the puppies

507
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: eat first as opposed to lions, right, yeah.

508
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very unique pack because they take care of

509
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: this sick and the elderly and the and the young

510
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: eat first.

511
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So And also conversely though, that means like

512
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: there isn't really gonna be a weak link that the

513
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: cat story can exploit. So uh yeah, that would definitely

514
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: be it'd be fun to watch this.

515
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 4: Well not well, you can say that this is this

516
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 4: is not real, you know what I mean.

517
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's not gonna come down on

518
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: you for saying that fights will be fun. Okay, so

519
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 3: so so so moving on to the next one, another

520
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: controversial decision. This is the first round er as well,

521
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: we had twenty fifty pound pit bows defeeding one one

522
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 3: thousand pounds water buffalo. The water buffalo is the the

523
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: most dangerous animal in Africa, the black death. You've you've

524
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: got to clip on the on the water buffalo as well,

525
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: and we granted pit bulls were literally bred for this, right,

526
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: Like that's why they call pitples. They were bred to

527
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: fight bulls in pits. But I just did not see

528
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: them taking a water buffalo. Where are you at with that?

529
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: How many pimples was it again?

530
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty fifty pounders versus one water buffalo.

531
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: Twenty fifty pounds. I'm actually gonna go with the pit

532
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Oh So with the buffalo, there's there's two types. There's

533
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: a cape buffalo and water buffalo. The k buffalo is

534
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: the one that's like the most dangerous in all of Africa.

535
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: Water buffalo kind of been like domesticated. They're the ones

536
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: you see in Asia with the really long horns. They're

537
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: more docile. So I guess the more fair comparison would be, uh,

538
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: kate buffalo. But when you got twenty pit bulls and

539
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: like they were all bred for that one purpose, that's

540
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: where it's like if it's only one, I feel I

541
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: feel like that's what makes kate buffalo the most dangerous

542
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: because they travel in herds. They can sometimes form mega

543
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: herds where there's like over a thousand of them. So

544
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: if you're a lion and you're squaring up with like

545
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: basically the buffalo bloods, like there's you know, you can't

546
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: really find an opening, but if it's one on a

547
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: twenty pit bulls, yeah, no, I think I would take

548
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: the pipulls, especially since they know exactly like how to

549
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: take it down. One most for the snout, one goes

550
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: for the back legs. Eventually you tire it out and

551
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: once it drops, that's pretty much it. And the same

552
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: thing with African wild dogs. Once they get you to

553
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: start bleeding and like now you're on the defensive, they

554
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: exploit that fully. So yeah, I actually think and I

555
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: think the I think the buffalo one, that's the one

556
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: I disagree with. I think I would definitely take the pit.

557
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 4: Now the piles won the pipples advance.

558
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: Oh they won, Okay, yeah, okay, I agree.

559
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 4: There was some big American dog bias here early rounds.

560
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, did I take pi bulls of Buffalo? I'm

561
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 4: not sure who who who you picked, but the people

562
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: I think me, and I think me and Mike said

563
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 4: pitbull for this situation. I'm sure. I'm sure I was

564
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 4: a water buffalo on this, I guarantee you that.

565
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, but I think what seeing the video you

566
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 5: made made me think I was wrong, you know what

567
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 5: I mean. But then you you know, makes sense breaking

568
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 5: it down how how it will attack. But when when

569
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 5: I look at those videos when water, when they when

570
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: buffalo's win, they're generally out.

571
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: Numbering the other animal.

572
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 5: Like you said, you feel me and I'll see when

573
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 5: they lose is when they're out numbered. So that speaks

574
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 5: to what you're already talking about.

575
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, rough matchup for the buffalo though, because that's

576
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm making them sound weak right now, but they're actually

577
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: like they're and that with all the animals in Africa,

578
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: they're the ones that got the nickname black Death. Yeah,

579
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: you hunt them, they they will hunt you back. It's

580
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: the scariest thing in the world.

581
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: All right.

582
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: So next matchup that was controversial to us. We had

583
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: two five hundred pounds tigers and they advanced past twenty

584
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: five forty pound Bobcast. Now we are not at all

585
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: sleeping on tigers, right, biggest of the big cats, but

586
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: we just think that twenty five forty pound bobcast is

587
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: too much because one big thing that we have emphasized

588
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 3: here in this tournament is you got to look at

589
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: strength to schedule and What we mean by that is

590
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: bobcats have been known to take down full grown deer.

591
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: Right.

592
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: You will see a forty pound bobcat take down a

593
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty pound buck.

594
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: Right.

595
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 3: So I think that you know, to you know tigers

596
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: versus you know, twenty five bobcasts, I think the bobcats overwhelmed.

597
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 4: There. Where are you at with that?

598
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: At first? Like in my gut, I want to say

599
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: two tigers just because like they're massive units, but twenty

600
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: five of anything that is a predator would be like

601
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: a really big deal, to really big issue for them.

602
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: I think I would still take the two tigers only

603
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: because there's two of them. And there's this there's this

604
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: type of like Asian wild dog. They're basically like African

605
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: wild dogs. They're called goals. They basically have the same Yeah,

606
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: they have basically have the same like ecological like niche

607
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: where they and sometimes they come into contact with tigers.

608
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: The problem is like these dogs are like so much

609
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: smaller than one tiger, where it'll be like fifteen dogs

610
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: and a tiger just clears all of that, and it

611
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: just it's the fact that it's so easy for a

612
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: tiger to take out like a bobcat. I just again,

613
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: twenty five of anything is so insane. But now I'm thinking, like,

614
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: what would a would a bobcat have to do to

615
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: take down like a tiger? Like if you're getting going

616
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: for its neck, its jaws are right there. So I

617
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: think it's I think mostly because there's two tigers and

618
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm assuming they're gonna work together and like one's gonna

619
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: get the others back. I think I'm gonna go with

620
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: the two five hundred pound tigers because those are they're

621
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: just stuff of nightmares.

622
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you pulled out some out of conference strength

623
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: the schedule. Shit, I got a Google up on. I

624
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: didn't even know about the I didn't even know about

625
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: the Asian wild Dogs. Bro, you schooling us here.

626
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: I saw all about the all matchups.

627
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, see that.

628
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 3: Hey, that's what we but the big brains on here

629
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: for next matchup that I think a lot of us were.

630
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: We're disagreeing with Ron McGill actually disagreed with us disagreeing

631
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 3: on this here. But ten we thought that five two

632
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: hundred pound Mountain Lions would be ten one hundred pound wolves.

633
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: The people push the ten one hundred pound wolves through

634
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: where are you at with that?

635
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: I agree with the mountain lions. I just five to ten.

636
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that's enough of a numbers advantage for

637
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: the wolves for them to be able to definitively have it,

638
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: especially since just the nature of the way wolves hunt,

639
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: like just wild dogs in general. They first they want

640
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: to intimidate you. They want to get you to run,

641
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: and while you're running, they're going to try to bite

642
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: at your flame for back legs, trying to get you

643
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: to bleed out and all of that. The number one

644
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: way to not get attacked by wolves is to not run.

645
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Like it's actually really weird. You watch videos on YouTube

646
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: where if like a deer or a moose or something

647
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: just doesn't run, they don't know what to do. It's like, okay,

648
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: now what. So with the mountain lions, they are built

649
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: to kill like by themselves too, like just they am.

650
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I think they have one of the higher hunting hit

651
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: rates of like big cats, especially as like a solitary hunder,

652
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: and all it really takes is them getting to jump

653
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: on you, getting to your neck, and that's like lights out.

654
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: So I feel like even two wolves on one full

655
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: grown like mountain lion that's like would be a bad

656
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: matchup on the wolves part, even if they're working as

657
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: a team. It would definitely it could really go either way.

658
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: But since it's like, since the numbers aren't really that

659
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: favorable for the wolf, I gotta go with the Mountain Lions.

660
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Those things are. It's weird because I feel like they're

661
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: not as dangerous as they really should be and just

662
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: because they're like afraid of us. But like if they weren't,

663
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: we'd be in a lot of trouble.

664
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: Yah.

665
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 5: The biggest dogs in the wild, Yes, there's there's not

666
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 5: a bigger dog. Yeah, and so an all dogs are

667
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: saying hunting packs except foxes. Except foxes are the only

668
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 5: solitary dog, will you know? The the athnic comparison not

669
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 5: compared to Mountain lions was was John Bones Jones, right,

670
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 5: because Mountain Lions have a deceptively sleek but powerful build

671
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: kind of similar to John Bones right, Like like you know,

672
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 5: they're they're they're longest hell, but they're so fucking powerful.

673
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 5: And I would and I would think that, like, you know, five,

674
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 5: I just don't think two wolves per one mountain lin

675
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 5: is enough to take the Mountain Lions out.

676
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: I don't.

677
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're we're not realizing how

678
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: big these things are. Like I think we get caught

679
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: up with the whole big cat thing. Technically they're not

680
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: big cats.

681
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 3: Because because they can't right, it isn't that big cat

682
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: distinct just some bullshit. If you're a big in your cat,

683
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: you're a big cat to be dog.

684
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, the smallest big cat is smaller than like technically,

685
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if that they call them little cats anymore.

686
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: It kind of sounded stupid to call something that big little.

687
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: But no, they're they can take There have been cases

688
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: of like like full grown mail, like mountain lions taking

689
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: down moose. It doesn't happen all the time, but like

690
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: it happened, So you take down on moose and like

691
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: you've seen moose next to cars. Those are pretty big things. Like,

692
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't see wolves being able to pull that one out.

693
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: What was Ron McGill's logic, because I know we we

694
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: we said that thought the same way you did, mom.

695
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he believed that.

696
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: You know, wolves are pack hunters, they strategize and you

697
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: know they attack that way, and I get it, but

698
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: without smart the lines he thought, I mean, I feel

699
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: like I feel like we can't overlook the run up

700
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: and get done up.

701
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: All you want?

702
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Are y'all gonna have to hop out there first and foremost,

703
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: And it's probably gonna be bad news for that one

704
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: that hops out there, you feel me?

705
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: So?

706
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, in a while, it's the rules that were going

707
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 6: off of.

708
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: Is that you know they know? So I think that

709
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 4: benefits to mountain lines. Yeah.

710
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: And another controversial decision. And Ron McGill did not agree

711
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: with the voters on this one either. I don't think

712
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: any of us on the pot agree with it either.

713
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: Was they the voters had three three hundred and thirty

714
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: three pounds silver backs defeeding twenty five forty pound wolf ringes.

715
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: Where are you at with that, Malad?

716
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm taking the wolverine? Yeah, I can't.

717
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we we might have.

718
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: I think we overrated gorillas because they look like us,

719
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: but they.

720
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: Like Austin bro.

721
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like wolverine wolver ringes are psychonic. I don't

722
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: even understand wolverines first of all, because like they can

723
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: hunt for themselves, they're perfectly capable of hunting for themselves.

724
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: They much rather would steal from like a grizzly bear

725
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: or wolf or a mountain lion. They're like and then

726
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: they win, Yeah, exactly, and it's like they figure it out.

727
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: They're basically what honey badgers are, but like honey badgers are,

728
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say a bluff, but wolf rings are

729
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: that they don't have to buff bluff and like they

730
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: can scare off. I've seen videos of them like basically

731
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: punking two wolves at the same time. So you put

732
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: them on just any predator against like a gorilla, lis

733
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: kind of gonna be a bad matchup for the gorilla

734
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: because they're just they're not natural fighters. They're just body

735
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: building vegans. Like they're impressive. They haven't. They have a

736
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: really strong bite force, though I will say for the

737
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: gorillas it's like stronger than bears. Yeah, I guess that

738
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: makes sense if you're crushing like vegetation all day, but

739
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: unless you're gonna solo squad like a whole bunch of wolverine,

740
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: because now you don't have the numbers advantage. So yeah,

741
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: I can't really see the gorillas like pulling that one out.

742
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: Like what I will say, it will be a lot

743
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: closer than I'm making it seem. But with how many

744
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: wolverines again, twenty five?

745
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all. I don't think eight wolverines, no way

746
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: in hell, bro And that just the way.

747
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: They fight, and wolverines will They're not like with honey Badgers,

748
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: where honey Badgers don't even value their own lives. They

749
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: will fight till they're just dead. Wolverines though, they're kind

750
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: of similar where it's like if they feel like their

751
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: life's in danger, it's like, okay, nothing to lose, I'm

752
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: just gonna take you out if I gotta go too.

753
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, and.

754
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: Wolverines trademark shit is they will latch onto your throat

755
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: and hang by that ship like you're either gonna bleed

756
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: out or I'm gonna rip your thrower out with my weight.

757
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: Correct.

758
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: Did you hear about that wolverine that killed.

759
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: A polar talk We discussed about that.

760
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: That's I'm glad you mentioned that because I would have

761
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: completely forgotten choked out a polar bear couldn't do anything

762
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah.

763
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wolverine's got a raw deal, like they legitimately could

764
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: have won it all if people were hipp on wolverings.

765
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: I feel like, all right, so mama, dude, one a

766
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: recurring refrain from the crowd when this dropped was that

767
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: hippos got a raw deal. And my whole thing is,

768
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: you know, the catchwork was a thousand pounds. A three

769
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: thousand pound hippo is disqualified from this right. So I personally, look,

770
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: I do not sleep on hippos. I know that hippos

771
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: are extremely deceptive. They look like fat boys, but they're

772
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 3: pure fucking muscle. They're like you know, Kingpin and Spider

773
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: Man when they're all fucking muscle.

774
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: Even know they look bad. I know there's three thousand.

775
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: Pounds of pure muscle, But I do not think that

776
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: with the catchway stipulation, a hippo would farewell well. One

777
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: three thousand pound hippo would farewell against six five hundred

778
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: pound grizzes or six five hundred pounds tigers, or three

779
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: one thousand pound polar bears or thirty one hundred pound wolverines.

780
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 3: I think they would turn that motherfucker into a pulled

781
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: hippo sandwich, you know what I'm saying.

782
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: So where are you at with that? How fair?

783
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 3: How how how well do you think a hippo would

784
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 3: fare you know, going up against like three thousand pounds

785
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: against of a predator, I.

786
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: Think you kind of hit it on the head. I

787
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: mean they're massive tanks, but like once you take away,

788
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: like they're well not even like that that they're size advantage,

789
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: but just like when you when you get out numbered

790
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: by that, and it's not being out numbered by like

791
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: wild dogs or something smaller that you can deal with.

792
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: It's like like jaguars or if grizzlies, tiger they can't.

793
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: You can't deal with multiple of those, let alone, like

794
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: especially and also like a main thing with them is

795
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: they spend a lot of their time in the water,

796
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: so a lot of that's that's already their element. So

797
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: if you put them on land and then you have

798
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: all these like apex predators around them, and it's just them,

799
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't really they're gonna do damage regardless, but

800
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: like they have one way to hurt you, and it's

801
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: like one side of their body if you get them

802
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: like from the back paws, but like uh you know,

803
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: like and again, like it's the same problem with the

804
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: grizzly bear, where it's like it takes a lot to

805
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: take one down. But the thing is because they're they're

806
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: taking hits from all over. Eventually they're just it's gonna

807
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: the damage is gonna be too much. And then if

808
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: you like nerf them and like have them be a

809
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: thousand pounds to fit like the criteria, then you're kind

810
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: of taking away like you know, what makes them so dangerous,

811
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: Like a thousand.

812
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: Pounds, that's a seven month old hippo right there, right

813
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 4: like exactly.

814
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, no, just the nature of the

815
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: rules of this game, hippos might actually get like the

816
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: raw deal. But I will say like they might make

817
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: it a lot further than we expect just because like

818
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: because honestly, like a fully grown hippo against eight hyaenas,

819
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm I wouldn't say yeah, yeah that like yeah, because again,

820
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: like it's a one they might have the best like

821
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: one shot in all of nature, like if like life

822
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: was like a video game, like they're finishing move like

823
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: and I was talking about jaguars, you get caught in

824
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: some hip, it's over, like you're not coming out of that.

825
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think once you have like multiple apex

826
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: predators at once, like it gets difficult for them. But

827
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: like the don't anyone watching this, please don't sleep on hippos.

828
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: Don't sleep out what they can do to you what

829
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: they can do to your car, your boat. Like these

830
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: things are, people are afraid of them for a reason.

831
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 4: Before we get to the final four, you've got to

832
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: take a break.

833
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,520
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836
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837
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Speaker 4: All right, So yeah, so so moving on to the

877
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: final four.

878
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: We've got, you know, we have the one one thousand

879
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: pound Bison who won the Steve Erwin Region. We have

880
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: the two five hundred pound Tigers who won the Big

881
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: Boy Region. We have the two five hundred pound Grizzlies

882
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 3: who won the DMX region, and the eight one hundred

883
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: and twenty five pound Jaguars who won the Pigeonman from

884
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: hay On the region. So bring out right, like man

885
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: a legend, right, you feel me? But yeah, So so

886
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: final four matchup Bison. You know, one Bison verse two

887
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: five hundred pounds Tigers. Who do you have on that one?

888
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: That might be a blowout? Yeah, I think it's gonna

889
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: got no business being there.

890
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's I think the Bison

891
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: lucked up and had a favorable region, you know what

892
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean. And I'm not at all sleeping on bison.

893
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: I think bison are fucking tremendous. I think that they're

894
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: they're low key underrated and how vicious that that that

895
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: they are, especially at defending themselves. But yeah, five hundred tigers,

896
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: I don't see them, you know, getting past them.

897
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: No, m The weird thing is about bison. They have

898
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: so with us, right our lungs. Each lung has like

899
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: its own cavity. I think it's called the plural cavity

900
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: for bison. For whatever reason, I don't know how they

901
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: even got built like this. They have both lungs in

902
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: just one region. So back in the day when we

903
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: used to hunt bison, if you speared them the right way,

904
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: they were just bleed out completely, just off one hit.

905
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: You can one shot a bison. Now again, that's like

906
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: us with spears. I'm not saying like any human can,

907
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: like you know, uppercut a bison and live. No. I

908
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: see these videos of people walking up to them in

909
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Yellowstone and taking these features and selves with them, and

910
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for one of them to like get

911
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: set to the next state. Apparently we forgot what bison

912
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: are I get we watch Avatar and think they're all

913
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: sweet or bison they're they're like they're tanks, but they

914
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: they know they's there's in the real story for sure.

915
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: But uh, the clocks on a strike big night. When

916
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: you have.

917
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: Tigers, Yeah, someone someone someone said there, they're the Gonzaga

918
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: of this tournament. Like, right, you deserve the one seed.

919
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: You made it a foinal four, buts about to get

920
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 3: ugly for you once you meet the big doll exactly.

921
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I can for sure see that.

922
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 5: I feel like tigers have everything it takes to kill

923
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 5: a bison, Like all the things that benefit the bison,

924
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 5: they're not work against the tigers, you know what I'm saying.

925
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 5: Like the tigers have all the things like the claws,

926
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 5: the quick quickness, agility, things like that, that's what you

927
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 5: need to kill a bison. Then they have two of them.

928
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: I think one tiger could probably kill a bison, you know.

929
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: What I mean?

930
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: Sure for sure?

931
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: All right, next final four matchup, it is the two

932
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: five hundred pound Grizzlies first eight one five pound Jaguars.

933
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: Who do you have there.

934
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: That might actually be the toughest one. Okay, so we

935
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: got eight jaguars, and we got.

936
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: What was on the five pound jaguars.

937
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: I gotta go with the grizzlies. And I love jaguars.

938
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: I think I think they're wildly underrated for big cats,

939
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: strongest bite force relative to like their size of any

940
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: big cat. But again, I'm just thinking of what a

941
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: jaguar would have to do to kill like a grizzly bear.

942
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: And it's like, so you're gonna go up to the

943
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: grizzly bear, this big mountain of like flesh furred muscle.

944
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to its neck and you're gonna try

945
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: to choke it out, and he's just gonna sit there

946
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: and take it. That's probably not gonna happen. Uh, And

947
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: then you got two on eight. I still don't it's

948
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: like with the wolves and cougars, it'd be a good matchup.

949
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they have the numbers advantage for me

950
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, non jaguars, because like I mean, we

951
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: need to you guys need to like pull up just

952
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: what like a grizzlies claw looks like in like real

953
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: life compared to us.

954
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 5: Like hit, Yeah, somebody somebody pulled it up. Somebody pull

955
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 5: it up on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, but the jaguars.

956
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: Jaguars do the kill by the way they bite through

957
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: your skull, though they don't do the whole neck bite.

958
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would again, like that's just that they would

959
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: be opening themselves up for like a hell of a

960
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: counter like you. And then you have to like because

961
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: again you're they're going off of like biting through the

962
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: skull and just like paralyzing them. You're not. I don't

963
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: think you can really do that with grizzly bears. It

964
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: works in where they're from because they do that with

965
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: km Yeah, the type of alligator they can do that

966
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: because that's basically they're a weak spot and they have

967
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: a brain like the size of a walnut. So you

968
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: pierce status like literally you just turn them off. They're done.

969
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Grizzlies flip the switch exactly. You know. It's actually it was.

970
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: That was one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

971
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: When I first found out that jaguars could do that,

972
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: I was I thought I knew a lot about animals

973
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: until I saw that. I was, like, I got a

974
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: lot more to learn.

975
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: Brock Jackos are fucking nuts. They will dive into the

976
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: Amazon wrestle. It came in underwater in its natural habitat,

977
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: bite through its fucking skull and then drag it up

978
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: a tree to eat it.

979
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: Bro like just just all terrain athletes right there I saw.

980
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: I feel so bad for them, Like it's like like

981
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: they're part of, like they're probat of, like one of

982
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: the most successful groups of predators like on the planet,

983
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: like alligators. Crack it up. They've been here for a minute. Yeah,

984
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: And there was a time where there was this like

985
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: type of cayman I forget the name, but he was

986
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: running stuff. So imagine like if he could like his

987
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: ancestors could see him now, and now he's getting solo

988
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: squatted by a cat, A cat that can swim. That's

989
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: all it takes. It's it's rough for them, and it's

990
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: not even like they're weak. They just the worst possible match.

991
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: You could have a cat that could bite through your

992
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: skull and can go into your hood and drag you

993
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: out of it.

994
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: One of the two cats on the planets that love

995
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: swimming and it loves eating you too, right, Like what's

996
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: the fucking luck of that?

997
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But that being said, like Rizzally, I'm just

998
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: thinking about like if a jaguar. Can a jaguar tank

999
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: like a swipe from its claws? Probably not, And if

1000
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: they do, they're just out of commission. I don't I

1001
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: can't see them taking And then and then there's two

1002
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: of them. If it was one grizzly, I would actually

1003
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: favor the jaguar, But because there's two of them, you

1004
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: gotta deal with at the same time. Yeah, I'm taking,

1005
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm taking, I'm taking the grizzlies. Actually two grizzlies.

1006
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: If it was one grizzly, you think you would have

1007
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 4: been they still the grizzly, Okay.

1008
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: I feel like then at that point you're just being

1009
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: overwhelmed because again, Jaguars aren't pushovers, So you gotta deal

1010
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: with eight of them at once. One of them is

1011
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna get you from behind, you start bleeding, you're gonna

1012
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: get tired eventually. Yeah, but now with two of them,

1013
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: that's that's where things start to change.

1014
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay.

1015
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: So, so your championship matchup is two five hundred pounds

1016
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: tigers versus two five hundred pound gris.

1017
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: That's as even as the tape gets who do you

1018
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: have there?

1019
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: Oh, this one's tough. Let's see. So we got the

1020
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: two tigers, We got the two grizzly bears. Tigers are

1021
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: definitely more agile, I feel like in terms of being

1022
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: a predator, tigers are probably the I feel like they're

1023
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: they're just engineered to be perfect killing the seats. They

1024
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: get you off guard. Uh, they kill you as fast

1025
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: as possible. That's the one thing with grizzlies. They just

1026
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: overpower everything. But they don't have like a kill right,

1027
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. They just revenant your ass until you just

1028
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: stop moving. But grizzly bears are just like and this

1029
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: is actually why I think I'm gonna go with the

1030
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: grizzly bears, because they're like I used to say, they're

1031
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: like CrossFit junkies, but also like they're massive, Like they

1032
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: don't get tired. Like you'll see videos of a bear

1033
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: chasing down like an elk from like miles away, going

1034
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: through like swimming through like a lake to get to it.

1035
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: They get to it, gets to like this elk, it

1036
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: kills it, and then it drags it out of the

1037
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: Like they're just they don't get tired. It's the most

1038
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: insane thing you'll see. And again that swipe is just

1039
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking that and at this point I'm thinking defense,

1040
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: because they both have the tools to kill each other.

1041
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: But defense, I think the bear has just a massive

1042
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: amount of like fur, fat and muscle, like you gotta

1043
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: chip away at it before you really start to do

1044
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: damage with a tiger. Again, it's not like a glass,

1045
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: it's not glass or anything, but there's just like man,

1046
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: one swipe like to the face from like a grizzly bear,

1047
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: and I think you just eliminated a tiger. And since

1048
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: it's like a one, it's like a basically one to

1049
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: one ratio of them. That's like one tiger dealing with

1050
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: one grizzly. I think as close as it would be.

1051
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, no matter who wins, the winner is

1052
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: going to be so messed up afterwards, Like I don't

1053
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: think you really win after that. But in terms of

1054
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: the rules for this, uh yeah, I think I'm going

1055
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: with the grizzlies. I think they just they got too

1056
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: much power and the fact that there's two of them,

1057
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: they're endurance their durability, you really have to like it

1058
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: takes a lot to kill them. So yeah, I think

1059
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: I think my winner is a grizzly, right, But honestly,

1060
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: if you say tiger. I don't think I could really

1061
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: argue with you because two tigers. That's tough too.

1062
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the motherfucker right there.

1063
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 3: All right, Well, the people you heard it here first,

1064
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: my man, mama, do you appreciate you hopping on with us?

1065
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: This was really, really fucking fun.

1066
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: You want to plug your book one last time and

1067
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: tell the people where they can find you at on

1068
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: socials of course, my.

1069
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: Book again, one hundred Animals that can fing kill you.

1070
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: You can get it on Amazon. There's also the audiobook

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Speaker 1: because I know we don't like to read no more.

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Speaker 1: There's that also MGI that's m N D I a

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Speaker 1: ye Underscore ninety seven. That is my TikTok and my Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I try to post like daily or by daily on those.

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Speaker 1: My YouTube channel basically I make the same videos I

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Speaker 1: make on TikTok and Instagram, but longer form. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's where I have the most fun with my content.

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Speaker 1: My YouTube is casual geographic. I was really proud of

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Speaker 1: that name.

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Speaker 4: That's that's fire.

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, that's pretty much all the plugs that

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Speaker 1: I needed. But yeah, man, I'm super I had a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun with this, So super glad. That you

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Speaker 1: guys invited me on and I hope I can do

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Speaker 1: this again sometimes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, when you're a friend of the show once,

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Speaker 3: you're a friend of the show forever. Man, we appreciate

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Speaker 3: you so so much popping on us. Like I said, Bro,

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Speaker 3: there was no one on the planet we though it

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Speaker 3: would be more perfect for this than you. And thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for coming on with us.

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Speaker 1: Bro of course, of course, Man, great glad to be here.

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Speaker 4: Yes sir, yes, sir, we appreciate you so yeah.

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Speaker 3: Go hoiler at my man, Mamma, do peep of socios

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Speaker 3: copies book all that stuff and keeep us on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: We will be having the final four matchups going up

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Speaker 3: on Friday, the championship going up on Monday, and the

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Speaker 3: beef bracket is coming to an end. We will be

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Speaker 3: crowning a winner soon enough. So thank you again, my man,

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Speaker 3: Mama do we appreciate you so much, My brother,