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Speaker 2: My name's Astro Walmack, stand up comic and writer for
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Speaker 2: No, but yeah, no, today we're discussing important topic this week.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have been online. Trump
Speaker 2: is the president. He is now the president, Yes, he is.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen if you're finding out
Speaker 2: from this podcast. Damn dog, what have you been.
Speaker 3: On Welcome Home Southrey Confinement for the past twenty years?
Speaker 1: You hope your ass is not Mexican because you are
Speaker 1: getting deported.
Speaker 3: No, I can't say welcome home to you.
Speaker 2: But Trump is president and for some odd reason people
Speaker 2: when the inauguration happened, people weren't mad at Trump. They
Speaker 2: seem they seem to be mad at rappers Snoop Dogg
Speaker 2: and Nelly in particular. And if you saw online, Charlemagne
Speaker 2: addressed this, and that's what we're talking about on this
Speaker 2: week's episode of the Daily Show with Charlomagne. Why there
Speaker 2: was anger where people chose to direct their anger. They
Speaker 2: weren't angry at Donald Trump. They were angry at rappers.
Speaker 4: The first week could Trump two point zero is almost
Speaker 4: up and one thing is clear, some of y'all are
Speaker 4: not gonna make it through four years, okay, because you could.
Speaker 3: Barely handle these last four days.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: People are losing their whole damn minds and it's causing
Speaker 4: them to lash out at their wrong targets.
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg Nellie are facing backlash right now after performing
Speaker 1: at Donald Trump's inauguration party.
Speaker 4: Today.
Speaker 2: Fans took to x to express their anger, with one
Speaker 2: user saying that they no longer respect the artists for participating.
Speaker 5: Snoop performing during Trump's innaugural weekend, not this Snoop Dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's talking about Snoop and Nelly.
Speaker 4: I knew Trump would take America backwards, but I didn't
Speaker 4: think it would be the two thousand and three.
Speaker 3: People.
Speaker 4: Please stop wasting your energy attacking old school rappers. The
Speaker 4: only thing they did wrong is inspiring Mark Zuckerberg's new look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like flavor flavor if the flavor was mayonnaise. Look.
Speaker 4: Man, The reason people are mad is because back in
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, Snoop denounced artists who played Trump's first inauguration.
Speaker 3: But in his defense, you think snoopery remembers twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4: Snoopers burned more trees than the La wildfires.
Speaker 2: Charlamagne, what's your take on this? Why did that upset
Speaker 2: you that people were angry at rappers?
Speaker 4: I just think it si and it just shows how
Speaker 4: unseerious we are as a country.
Speaker 3: And you know, we tend to put.
Speaker 4: Everything on the same scale, but then we actually, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: make make things that are heavier lighter and things that
Speaker 4: are lighter heavier, And I mean, I think it's just
Speaker 4: that train of thought is what got Donald Trump and
Speaker 4: the White House in the first place, because you know,
Speaker 4: Snoop dogg Rick Ross Nellie Soldier boy performing at a
Speaker 4: you know, crypto event inauguration weekend that is inconsequential. You know,
Speaker 4: I think that the energy should be directed towards the
Speaker 4: elected officials. You know, the Democrats who called Trump things
Speaker 4: like a fascist, who said he was a threat to democracy,
Speaker 4: you know, who likened him to Hitler. But then as
Speaker 4: soon as the election was over, they were like, welcome home. Literally,
Speaker 4: President Biden was standing in front of the White House
Speaker 4: saying welcome home.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: President Obama was at President Carter's funeral, you know, just
Speaker 4: showing all his teeth, you know, laughing with Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, as a voter, that confuses the hell
Speaker 4: out of me, right, it confuses the hell out of me,
Speaker 4: because when I see Republicans say something about Democrats, they
Speaker 4: stand on it. You saw Senator Fisher's husband, I think
Speaker 4: his name is Bruce Fisher.
Speaker 3: He ain't even shake the VP's hand. You understand what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: When Donald Trump said that Democrats stole the election in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, he acted like he didn't go to the inauguration,
Speaker 4: He didn't don't do no peaceful transport power. He's still
Speaker 4: saying to this day that the election was stolen. And
Speaker 4: I think you know, when it comes to political optics,
Speaker 4: you know that goes a long way with voters, especially
Speaker 4: their base. And I think you know what Democrats is
Speaker 4: to complete opposite. It makes you know what should be
Speaker 4: their base look at them and be like, what do
Speaker 4: they even believe?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who are they?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, oh, I'm not even not only am
Speaker 2: I with the losing team. My team can't even lose, Like.
Speaker 3: My team don't even stand on business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to your point about like Republicans they on,
Speaker 2: they stay on their messaging. They Democrats are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they ignore that they called him a hitler, they ignore
Speaker 2: that they call him a fashion Meanwhile, Republicans were still
Speaker 2: like Obama's a Muslim, He's a Muslim. He's just nowhere
Speaker 2: tied to the truth. But they still even in like loss,
Speaker 2: they still stick with their little lives.
Speaker 4: And we've seen it every single time when when President
Speaker 4: Obama won in two thousand and eight, they kept that
Speaker 4: same energy his whole first time. When he won to
Speaker 4: get in twenty twelve, they kept that same energy the
Speaker 4: whole the second term. When President Biden became the president
Speaker 4: elect in twenty twenty, they.
Speaker 3: Kept that same energy.
Speaker 4: They filed articles of impeachment on him on the first day.
Speaker 3: So it's just like I just.
Speaker 4: Wish for once, you know, Democrats would you know, treat
Speaker 4: Republicans the way they treat them. And I know people
Speaker 4: say things like, oh, that's just a politics, that's just
Speaker 4: the political norm. And like I said on the show,
Speaker 4: politics haven't been normal since Donald Trump came down the escalator,
Speaker 4: you know, like, do we can't sit here and act
Speaker 4: like that was normal political rhetoric we heard in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four.
Speaker 3: I didn't hear no, But I've never heard anybody liking
Speaker 3: the Hitler. I think they might have. I think they
Speaker 3: actually might have liken Obama to Hitler at one point.
Speaker 4: I don't oh a socialist socialist, yeah yeah, but calling
Speaker 4: somebody a fascists, calling them a threat of democracy, you know,
Speaker 4: liking them to Hitler, that's not normal political rhetoric. And
Speaker 4: if it is, if it is, or it's going to be,
Speaker 4: people got to act like it after they say.
Speaker 2: Do you think now there's a bunch of people who
Speaker 2: are like like I saw online when you see the
Speaker 2: show you'll see a few clips and the people who
Speaker 2: were upset at Snoop Dogg and who were upset in Nelly,
Speaker 2: do you think that you know it's mostly people from
Speaker 2: black community.
Speaker 1: You don't think there's we don't have a.
Speaker 2: Somewhat of a we don't We should hold our celebrities accountable,
Speaker 2: at least to what they say.
Speaker 1: I know Snoop Dogg and Nelly aren't.
Speaker 2: No Like it's like Dave Japelle famously said, who cares
Speaker 2: what jo What does jow rule got to think? Now,
Speaker 2: of course we don't care. John Roue has to think,
Speaker 2: but like, is there something? Is there something to you
Speaker 2: just holding our own people accountable? Like in our own group.
Speaker 4: You can be mad at them, but what does it matter?
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't have any problem with people holding them
Speaker 4: accountable if I saw that same level of accountability. You know,
Speaker 4: if I saw them holding Obama and Biden them to
Speaker 4: that same level of accountability. I bet you if you
Speaker 4: did a search social media impressions to see you know
Speaker 4: who got more slander because they were cozying up with Trump,
Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg and Nelly would quadruple what Obama and Biden got.
Speaker 3: And to me, that's just it's just silly.
Speaker 4: It really just shows how unseerious we are as a country,
Speaker 4: because there's no way in hell I should be, you know,
Speaker 4: caring about what rappers do more than I care about
Speaker 4: what my elected officials do, because you know what's gonna
Speaker 4: happen two years from now. We're gonna be spending so
Speaker 4: much time, you know, focusing on the wrong things that
Speaker 4: when the midterms come, they're not gonna be organized and
Speaker 4: by day I mean Democrats, Democrats aren't gonna be prepared,
Speaker 4: and then what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: They're gonna lose the midterms.
Speaker 4: Because I guarantee you in two years, people not gonna
Speaker 4: be remembering Snoop performing at no Crypto Ball, but they
Speaker 4: will remember Obama and Trump's smiling with each other. Because look,
Speaker 4: I'm a person that got used, misused during this campaign,
Speaker 4: right because I had I would love please, because because
Speaker 4: I had an opinion about that that that transgender commercial,
Speaker 4: and so they ran that. Donald Trump turned that into
Speaker 4: a campaign that a pack for Trump turned that into
Speaker 4: a campaign that was the slogan for they them, right,
Speaker 4: So imagine what they're gonna do with pictures of Obama
Speaker 4: and Trump chummy chummy. You know what they're gonna do
Speaker 4: with pictures of you know, Joe Biden saying welcome back Trump.
Speaker 3: What do you think? What do you think?
Speaker 4: Like, how can Democrats ever say something negative about Republicans
Speaker 4: in the future that we're gonna believe?
Speaker 3: Like they gotta show us.
Speaker 2: It's literally like being like Jeff Epstein is a pedophile. Oh,
Speaker 2: let me take a picture with him? Like after like,
Speaker 2: why would you you know he's that's right, Why would
Speaker 2: you do it? What are you doing? You've been ain't
Speaker 2: his guys and now you're taking pictures with a mess
Speaker 2: insane optics of that. Also, I think that one of
Speaker 2: the things that like, really I think just it was
Speaker 2: a gut kick, was not just seeing Obama smile on this.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking personally, it was it was not just seeing
Speaker 2: Obama smile at this at the inauguration, at the funeral
Speaker 2: and the inauguration. It was combined with the fact that
Speaker 2: the first day of his presidency, I'm seeing you know,
Speaker 2: these like mothers, these migrant mothers who are coming into
Speaker 2: the country legally being locked out outright hours through the
Speaker 2: legal process, Trump signed executive orders to stop them from
Speaker 2: being able to come in a legal way. And so
Speaker 2: you have all these migrants, these mothers, you see all
Speaker 2: these people devastated.
Speaker 4: Listen, and we've the first four days of this uh disadministration.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump has done everything he said he's going to do.
Speaker 4: No surprises. He told us he was gonna you know,
Speaker 4: pardon the January sixth is you know, he told us
Speaker 4: about birth rights and ship He said he was gonna
Speaker 4: do all of these things. So there's no surprise. So
Speaker 4: my thing is, if he said he was going to
Speaker 4: do all those things on the campaign trail and y'all
Speaker 4: were calling him a fascist and a threat to democracy
Speaker 4: and likning the Hitler. Once he gets in and he's
Speaker 4: doing them, where's the rhetoric, people, where's the rhetoric?
Speaker 1: Holy White House?
Speaker 3: They should be saying, I told you so.
Speaker 4: I don't care about no damn Snoop Dogg before me,
Speaker 4: no crypto bar. And that goes for all the media personalities,
Speaker 4: all the cable news folks, that goes for everybody on
Speaker 4: social media. Get focused, man, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Get your priorities right.
Speaker 2: I want to see instead of Obama smiling with Trump,
Speaker 2: I want to see Obama down at the border with
Speaker 2: the families that are being affected or you know, just
Speaker 2: actively in the in the communities that are about to
Speaker 2: be affected by this, because all.
Speaker 4: Right, don't want to see Obama at all. That's what
Speaker 4: we ain't see Michelle. If Michelle said when they go low,
Speaker 4: we go high. Michelle ain't even go at all this time. Okay,
Speaker 4: Michelle didn't go at all. She did go through the funeral,
Speaker 4: she didn't go to the inauguration, she didn't go at all.
Speaker 2: Okay, so shout out to the Sheelle, that's yeah, she
Speaker 2: was like fuck that and like we said, he had
Speaker 2: to come home to that.
Speaker 1: I hope she gave. I hope she gave nothing.
Speaker 3: But shit, you know he got hit with the he help.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm like, now I will say, like when it
Speaker 2: comes to like Nelly and Snoop Nelly, I give less.
Speaker 2: I give less of a like shit to like performing
Speaker 2: there because Nelly got a bad bitch and uh, they
Speaker 2: are kind of expensive to hold. So I know he
Speaker 2: needed that check. But Snoop Snoop, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't use language like that towards women, even if
Speaker 4: Trump is in the White House.
Speaker 1: A baddie, I apologize a baddie.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give with the vibes of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. But but you know, it is this weird
Speaker 2: thing whenever, like whenever white people do something, black man
Speaker 2: get blamed.
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 3: By black by all the black people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do we have high too high of a standard
Speaker 1: of ourselves.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say we have too high of a
Speaker 4: standard of ourselves. I just think we have we have
Speaker 4: too high of a standard of We have too high
Speaker 4: of a standard of entertainers. Entertainers get paid to entertain
Speaker 4: Like I don't know if there should be uh, you know,
Speaker 4: we should be worried about what entertainer represents what as
Speaker 4: far as political party, I care about their music, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I care about you know, what
Speaker 4: they give me in movies, what they give me on
Speaker 4: TV shows. Like I'm not, you know, tripping if somebody
Speaker 4: chooses to go perform at a crypto ball, because that's
Speaker 4: not that's not an indication of what they believe.
Speaker 3: I don't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Just because somebody you know, performs at a crypto ball,
Speaker 4: I I don't even know why this has been such
Speaker 4: a discussion to be honest with you, Like I'm not
Speaker 4: even joking, Like this should be based on everything we've
Speaker 4: seen over the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: This is what the topic of discussion is.
Speaker 2: I agree, it's sad state of affairs that we have
Speaker 2: to like lean in onto, like we we give celebrities
Speaker 2: opinions so much like weight in society. Either way, Like
Speaker 2: that's already bad, you know for me to include.
Speaker 3: Me and I'm not. I don't even consider myself a celebrity.
Speaker 2: But it's just like, well, here's the thing, Charlamagne, you won,
Speaker 2: that's delusional.
Speaker 1: You're definitely a celebrity. You interview celebrities, you are celebrity.
Speaker 3: Wanted to hear you said little ego boots every nothing
Speaker 3: and see the ship.
Speaker 1: I gotta do to hearn my check around.
Speaker 3: I appreciate how you see me. Thank you is.
Speaker 1: Leading into my next question, that's all. I wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to try to ask this man. But you are famous.
Speaker 1: You've been famous for a long ass time, bro.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, and maybe this is my own
Speaker 2: like wrong perspective, so you can obviously correct me.
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 2: Black people, we don't have a lot of quality black leaders.
Speaker 2: We don't have a lot of black leaders. All the
Speaker 2: all y'all killed all the good ones. White people killed
Speaker 2: all the good black leaders. So we don't have this
Speaker 2: a pool of good leadership that we can like look to. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't even know who I would like name, so
Speaker 2: by virtue celebrities, black celebrities have become I'm not saying
Speaker 2: I want this to be, but it looked like black
Speaker 2: celebrities are kind of our leaders. We look to the
Speaker 2: they're the bigger figures in our culture. They're, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: of course we got a bomba, of course we got
Speaker 2: political like politicians, but people listen to you, people listen
Speaker 2: to it's black entertainers. That's who we like listen to.
Speaker 2: And so I think that's maybe why we don't realize it.
Speaker 1: We don't have. We don't.
Speaker 2: It's a lack of leadership in our own community. So
Speaker 2: when Snoop Dogg turns is back on like or not
Speaker 2: turns it back, but performs at the inauguration, we're looking
Speaker 2: at We're like, whoa, what happened?
Speaker 1: Flavor?
Speaker 2: Flavor spoke in my graduation, my high school graduation, we
Speaker 2: didn't have no leadership that.
Speaker 3: Was going along. Alan No.
Speaker 2: I was school in Texas, But I'm just saying, like
Speaker 2: that's why I think, like that's what I think we have,
Speaker 2: Like that's an emotional reaction to I.
Speaker 4: Mean, there's nothing wrong with you know, I guess you
Speaker 4: can have your disappointment. I'm just simply saying, like it's
Speaker 4: inconsequential at the end of the day, because, like I said,
Speaker 4: you know, in two years, people are not going to
Speaker 4: remember Snoop Dogg performing at the Crypto Ball, but they're
Speaker 4: gonna remember all those images of President Obama being chummy
Speaker 4: chummy with with with Trump. Right, They're gonna remember Joe
Speaker 4: Biden saying welcome back, you know, to the White House.
Speaker 4: In four years, they definitely gonna remember that. Like, the
Speaker 4: only thing that can fuck Republicans up at this point
Speaker 4: is Republicans, Like Republicans have to literally and I said
Speaker 4: this last time I did Daily Show, I actually encouraged
Speaker 4: Donald Trump to not prove his political opponents right. But
Speaker 4: if this first week is any indication, he definitely is.
Speaker 4: So the only thing you know, you know, Republicans can
Speaker 4: do at this point is imployed. And when they implode
Speaker 4: and do everything that you know, their political opponents said
Speaker 4: they were going to do, then we see what our
Speaker 4: own eyes. Oh this really was a threat to democracy.
Speaker 4: Oh this really was you know, fascism. But if they
Speaker 4: are regular conservatives for the most part and just fuck
Speaker 4: up the economy and we end up in a recession,
Speaker 4: nobody gonna believe that Republicans bad Democrats good thing anymore.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what Democrats are banking on. And
Speaker 4: that's what bothers me, Like it bothers me that once again,
Speaker 4: what do y'all believe? What are y'all about? Like, don't
Speaker 4: just you know, tell me Republicans are bad. Republicans are
Speaker 4: bad because y'all don't look too good either.
Speaker 2: So yeah, actually that's the funny you say that, You're like,
Speaker 2: you want to know what the Democrats, you want to
Speaker 2: know what their messaging is. You have a message, That's
Speaker 2: what I was gonna ask him, Like, what do you
Speaker 2: think the Democrats should be saying? Like, but you know,
Speaker 2: you're saying they don't even have a platform, a message.
Speaker 4: They don't have any messages, they don't have it, they
Speaker 4: don't have any ideology. I don't know what democrats, you know, believe,
Speaker 4: I really don't. I truly don't like And you know,
Speaker 4: everybody keep saying there they're leaderless. I think that there's
Speaker 4: some great Democrats out there, but you know, they gotta
Speaker 4: be willing to really speak truth to power, and they
Speaker 4: gotta rip up whatever playbook politicians have had for the
Speaker 4: last however many years, because the game has changed. The
Speaker 4: language of politics is dead and the game of politics
Speaker 4: is over.
Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, Democrats have not gotten that memo.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, they're still playing like old school like they're
Speaker 2: still playing like boomer politics and Trump he might be
Speaker 2: old that dude is a gen z ass president. He
Speaker 2: is he is a brand, he is a he is
Speaker 2: like a TikTok star. There's it's different.
Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy you say that, because I say,
Speaker 4: you know, it's incredible to be how he's captured culture
Speaker 4: and he's this is the second time we've seen him
Speaker 4: capture culture. And when we ever, whenever we say the
Speaker 4: word culture is synonymous with what black people, black people,
Speaker 4: Democrats got all these black people in their party.
Speaker 3: They're surrounded by black people, all of these black.
Speaker 4: Voters, and they don't understand culture at all, not even
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 2: That is, they should we should be eaten, we should
Speaker 2: be killing them.
Speaker 3: Allegedly, I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, you do.
Speaker 2: That's a factor, but it's like it's authenticy, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can't say the word. I got a list, it's
Speaker 2: the authenticity.
Speaker 3: I got a list too.
Speaker 1: Were both struggling.
Speaker 3: Let's say this.
Speaker 4: Republicans are authentic, it seems like, but listen, I say
Speaker 4: that they're more sincere about their lies than Democrats are
Speaker 4: about their truth because when Republicans lie, it sounds like
Speaker 4: they're telling the truth.
Speaker 3: When Democrats tell the truth, it sounds like they're lying.
Speaker 2: No, that's like legit, legit, fat We mentioned it in
Speaker 2: the piece. But it's like when Donald Trump is talking
Speaker 2: about twenty twenty election, niggas lying, but he said it
Speaker 2: so much sounded like the.
Speaker 3: Truth, and he acted like it. He did not go,
Speaker 3: and I hated that comparison.
Speaker 4: Everybody was like, you know, when Michelle didn't show up
Speaker 4: to the funeral or Michelle didn't show up to the inauguration,
Speaker 4: People that were defending Michelle were saying, like, well, Donald
Speaker 4: Trump didn't show up in twenty twenty. I don't even
Speaker 4: know why y'all did that, because the reality is he
Speaker 4: shouldn't have showed up in twenty twenty because he accused
Speaker 4: him of stealing you election.
Speaker 1: You stole this from me. Why should I go to
Speaker 1: what is a crazy ass?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I guess it is kind of the same
Speaker 4: thing because Michelle is like, look, I'm not going because
Speaker 4: the way, we don't know why.
Speaker 3: Michelle didn't go.
Speaker 4: We're just consuming, we're assuming she didn't go because she
Speaker 4: believes all of the rhetoric that she said and others
Speaker 4: said about Trump. I'm aokay with that. Actually, I respect that.
Speaker 4: I saluted same thing with Trump. Trump, you said they
Speaker 4: stole the election. You actly, not only not only did
Speaker 4: he not do a peaceful transfer of power, he tried
Speaker 4: to lead an attempt to cool.
Speaker 3: He tried he tried to lead a cool in his country.
Speaker 3: That's how much. That's how much he believed the election.
Speaker 1: My dog, actually, babbit, that was crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you now, Yeah, that's that is one
Speaker 2: hundred percent.
Speaker 4: If you're in the base, If I was in the base,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, man, he's he believes in us, he's
Speaker 4: fighting for us.
Speaker 2: Don't believe in nothing that man says. Don't believe in
Speaker 2: none of the politics, don't believe none of the ideology.
Speaker 2: But I do know the anger speaks volume. He used
Speaker 2: the anger as that's that's one point. He used Republican anger,
Speaker 2: and like conservative anger, it was a perfect ingredient. Right now,
Speaker 2: people are angry. People on the Democratic side, they're just
Speaker 2: as angry as Republicans, you can see it. But they're
Speaker 2: they're turning that anger towards rappers.
Speaker 4: They're turning that anger, turn that anger into organizing and
Speaker 4: planning and strategizing and getting ready for the mid term.
Speaker 2: What do we do with that anger? And like it's
Speaker 2: because it's clearly palpable. Do we do Democrats storm the Capitol?
Speaker 1: Do we? It's like, what do you do with that anger?
Speaker 4: And I hear you saying organized, strategize, plan, prepare, get
Speaker 4: ready for the mid terms. I don't even think you
Speaker 4: should spend all day, every day, you know, talking about
Speaker 4: every single move that Donald Trump is doing.
Speaker 1: That is that's the part I'm not looking forward to.
Speaker 2: But I learned the government based off of Donald Trump mistakes.
Speaker 1: That's how I got good at this job.
Speaker 2: He kept sucking stuff up. He's like something, we getting
Speaker 2: out the EPA and I was like, what's the e PA.
Speaker 2: It's the Environment Protection Agency? We need that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: That's how I learned about the EPA.
Speaker 4: Because the reality is people will see what you're not doing,
Speaker 4: just like people saw what Democrats weren't doing, and and
Speaker 4: and and trust me, you know when the Republican Party implodes,
Speaker 4: which you will, like you know, you've already already seen
Speaker 4: things like the vic Ramaswami out of Doge and you know,
Speaker 4: you hear about Steve bannersony and he want to get
Speaker 4: Elon away from Trump.
Speaker 1: And Steve Bannon called Nazi.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's let that sink into your ears.
Speaker 3: So you're seeing them implode.
Speaker 4: And you know, if these grocery prices don't come down,
Speaker 4: because that's what a lot of people said they voted
Speaker 4: for Trump for, if people are still struggling, If people
Speaker 4: are still struggling, you know, eighteen months from now, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: they gonna they gonna be out there in the streets,
Speaker 4: you know, angry at Republicans too, just like folks are
Speaker 4: angry at Democrats.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I just always I'm just blown away because it's like,
Speaker 2: have they not been listening to the Trump's messaging? That
Speaker 2: that's the part I'm confused on because his messaging is
Speaker 2: also it's it's it's hatefulness. It's like he's he's tapping
Speaker 2: into the anger. But also it's like, we're gonna tax,
Speaker 2: We're gonna get like, we're gonna make tarists fifty percent
Speaker 2: for Canada and Mexico. We're gonna buy Greenland, We're gonna change,
Speaker 2: Like were these the plans?
Speaker 1: That was this what they wanted?
Speaker 4: I've learned everybody doesn't pay attention to everything. But to
Speaker 4: that point that you just made, there is a lot
Speaker 4: of things that he spoke about that people just want.
Speaker 4: And I think that that's the other thing that America
Speaker 4: does not want to accept. America doesn't want to accept
Speaker 4: that a lot of the things that he said he
Speaker 4: wanted to do, a lot of people in America wanted
Speaker 4: those things done, and that's why they went out there
Speaker 4: and voted for.
Speaker 1: And I agree.
Speaker 2: I think the immigration and the like sadly enough sadly
Speaker 2: the transgender issue, the immigration, I think those policies really.
Speaker 2: I know people I talked to, I think they what
Speaker 2: they what they deem is common sense, is like they're like,
Speaker 2: there's people in the people in this country taking my jobs.
Speaker 2: But it's more complicated than that. But yeah, I understand it.
Speaker 2: There are that is one part. One thing Democrats are
Speaker 2: gonna have to acknowledge that there are people who want
Speaker 2: this where it's not just us.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, rich white men have convinced poor white
Speaker 4: men that the liberal white man is giving away all
Speaker 4: a ship.
Speaker 3: The niggas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the nigga They even ain't even just black
Speaker 4: folks no more. They I don't even think they really
Speaker 4: thinking about us niggas. Is now all right, that's right,
Speaker 4: if a.
Speaker 2: Straight up, But that's what I mean, and correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, But that's what I be feeling like
Speaker 2: the split.
Speaker 1: The divide of the parties are.
Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not saying that uh Democrats represent
Speaker 2: niggas or anything like that, but I am saying.
Speaker 1: I don't think that.
Speaker 2: You quote that you heard that on the Daily Show podcast,
Speaker 2: but I do think and this is my adamizing of
Speaker 2: the of the parties my like lowest common denominator. I
Speaker 2: can go with these parties, Republican parties, white, a white
Speaker 2: man's party that is a white man, rich white man,
Speaker 2: rich white man's party. Yes, you can throw all the
Speaker 2: caveats in there all you want, but the core goals
Speaker 2: seem to be white male centric and you know, Democrat
Speaker 2: ain't got no real messaging. But I do feel like
Speaker 2: it is the all y'all, all y'all nigga parties, the
Speaker 2: trying to blacks, Asians, Indians, women, gays.
Speaker 1: I feel like that has that is.
Speaker 2: What the bubble of the Democratic Party represents, which to me,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm probably lean more leftists, but I do
Speaker 2: think that, like I would rather be with everybody than just.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I think the Democrats tent might
Speaker 4: be too big? Do you think it's yeah? I remember,
Speaker 4: you know, and.
Speaker 3: I asked, I've been asking this question lately. You know.
Speaker 4: On election night we did a broadcast from Howard University
Speaker 4: and it was the Breakfast Club, you know, along with
Speaker 4: the Native Lamp podcast, who was Angela Rai, Andrew Gillim.
Speaker 3: And Tiffany Cross. And I asked that question that night.
Speaker 4: I asked him, you know, do you think that do
Speaker 4: you think big tent politics still works? And the reason
Speaker 4: I asked that is because you watch Republicans focus on
Speaker 4: their base and they're based only, and you know they
Speaker 4: win elections because of that. I think that, you know,
Speaker 4: Democrats try to be all things to all people, and
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's if that's possible, because if
Speaker 4: you notice, you know, they lost a lot of their base,
Speaker 4: you know, this election. You know, there was just enough
Speaker 4: black men that went over and you know, voted for Trump,
Speaker 4: even though we still were the second highest voting block
Speaker 4: for Democrats, you know what I mean. But it was
Speaker 4: just it was just enough. I don't even say black,
Speaker 4: black black men, black people, right, Latinos, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: more than half of Latinos voted for Trump. That's supposed
Speaker 4: to be the Democrat base. So I think that, you know,
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. Yeah, I just don't think
Speaker 4: you can be all things to all people. And I
Speaker 4: think they should really focus on their base more. I
Speaker 4: think if they focus on their base more, they'll energize
Speaker 4: their base more to come come, turn out during election time.
Speaker 1: I understand. I see that.
Speaker 2: I can understand that. I would say, like that identity politics,
Speaker 2: the hyper focusing on identity politics and making that the
Speaker 2: big tip picture, think that that was probably not the
Speaker 2: best strategy because it didn't really give people material things.
Speaker 2: I still when it comes to like big tent politics,
Speaker 2: I think about the laborers. I think about workers, and
Speaker 2: I think that at the end of the day. We're
Speaker 2: all labor. We're labor and workers. And I think if
Speaker 2: you make like a policies based off of laborers and workers,
Speaker 2: you'll help you're you're you're able to pull up more
Speaker 2: people to the middle class. And that's what this country's
Speaker 2: built on. So maybe I guess in my mind, the
Speaker 2: big Tent politics obviously has its flaws. I think they
Speaker 2: I think they fucked up by doing like making everything
Speaker 2: identity now and not working on like because everybody's a worker.
Speaker 4: I can see that. I mean, you want to focus
Speaker 4: on issues. People care about issues.
Speaker 1: Food and they stomach health care, uh, and they want
Speaker 1: to be safe. Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the Democratic policies outside of
Speaker 2: like health care and just opposing Trump.
Speaker 1: That's that's became their identity.
Speaker 4: Well, if they do that for the next two years,
Speaker 4: they're gonna lose the midterms. If they do that for
Speaker 4: the next four years, they're gonna lose the next election.
Speaker 4: So that's my whole message to Democrats, man, everybody, get focused,
Speaker 4: you know, get your priorities in order to stop targeting
Speaker 4: the rappers, you know, and if you're gonna have anger
Speaker 4: and if you're gonna have vitriol directed towards the right
Speaker 4: people and the people already elected officials.
Speaker 3: It's the Democrats who who who.
Speaker 4: Lied to us and played in our face, right, And
Speaker 4: and man, I can think of so many lives as
Speaker 4: the Democrats told us that God is in this position.
Speaker 4: I can think about, you know, President Biden saying he
Speaker 4: was gonna be a transitional president. President Biden, you know,
Speaker 4: deciding to run for a second term, but then stepping
Speaker 4: down too late, you know what I mean, given given
Speaker 4: the VP only one hundred and seven days to run,
Speaker 4: the VP's you know team lying to us.
Speaker 3: About what their internal polling was saying, right.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just it's just a lot of different things.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just a lot.
Speaker 4: Of different lives that caused them, you know that, to
Speaker 4: be in the position that they're in right now.
Speaker 3: And I just I just want us to get focused.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: And also, if you mad it like you should be,
Speaker 2: you should expect rappers to be Republican. I mean, Trump
Speaker 2: first off freed every raper.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: We don't even know if they're Republican or not. Even
Speaker 3: like they just performed at the Crypto ball snoops, A crypt.
Speaker 2: Trump pardoned more rappers than I know any president's ever
Speaker 2: pardon in my life. Kodak Black aside, Rocky, Lil Wayne,
Speaker 2: literally every rapper.
Speaker 3: That don't mean rapper has got to be beholding him.
Speaker 4: But once again, I don't even know what these rappers
Speaker 4: politics are. I have no idea. They performed at a crypto
Speaker 4: ball inauguration weekend. What does that mean? So so so
Speaker 4: so by that logic, Donald Trump is I mean Barack
Speaker 4: Obama's a Trump or tuning, but President Biden Trump that
Speaker 4: if that, if that, if that logic holds up, and
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying, Like so, it's.
Speaker 2: Like comes by virtue of being in the area conrotivity
Speaker 2: sign saying you're saying you're basically saying you're co signing
Speaker 2: this person and their actions and beliefs. Yes, that's probably
Speaker 2: the optics. We can admit the optics on at all
Speaker 2: terror the greatest optics. But yeah, know well, guys man, brother,
Speaker 2: thank you all the way.
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