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Speaker 1: now from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Jansas. Got some heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: randomly just finishing uh an audio book called Say Nothing,

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Speaker 1: It was a good one too. Uh. This is the

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Speaker 1: Thursday Show. A lot of content come in your way.

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Speaker 1: We hope you're enjoying it. Of course, Wednesday was the

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Speaker 1: fifty eight Annual Fantasy Extravaganza, So dig into that. Be

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Speaker 1: the whole f and thing. Uh Draft style. Also, the

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks recap is up with me and Connie and

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Speaker 1: I chop it up. It's perfect today. Mark, how are you?

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Speaker 1: There's attention with Mark? No I just m this happens

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Speaker 1: Believable coming up. It will be our tenth season doing

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Speaker 1: and more just studying the same eight teams, um, no

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Speaker 1: matter what. Whereas that show made a point of effort

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Speaker 1: to make sure everyone got coverage. So it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like I find it to be a guiding light, just

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Speaker 1: like our Sunday Night recap. I know people get mad

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Speaker 1: at us, so I go, you cover more teams than others,

434
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Speaker 1: you talk about the Jets too much, whatever and all that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's naturally part of it, but we make a big

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Speaker 1: effort to make sure every team gets coverage. I think

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Speaker 1: you're making up for those many decades of Jets relevance

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Speaker 1: on this show. I hear that speaking of all thirty

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Speaker 1: two teams were doing a little around the a f

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Speaker 1: C an NFC next week. I like it. Good shows.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a little uh what's more likely? Ye, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: We will be getting to what's more likely in a moment.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to share something with you. Two

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Speaker 1: to nineteen, eighteen, thirty to nine to fourteen three three,

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Speaker 1: seven thirteen nine seventeen sixteen thirty three seven seven seventeen

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Speaker 1: fourteen three MT seven three and this year two thousand

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Speaker 1: two Ravens twenty three Titans, ten Ravens, four Cardinals, seventeen

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Speaker 1: Ravens commanders this weekend. The record books are being written

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Speaker 1: every week. Ravens fly Fly, fly, h M. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of flair. It's the greatest streak in sports. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'd like to see the commanders wait another week to

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Speaker 1: take command as they're being tasked to do. In general,

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Speaker 1: great opponent, because regional are the Ravens playing their starters?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think Lamar is expected to

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Speaker 1: play at all. This preseason doesn't matter. Tyler Huntley has

457
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Speaker 1: like had three in complations the entire month of August

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Speaker 1: or something like that. So I think we're going to

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Speaker 1: be good either way. We yeah, we. I mean I

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Speaker 1: think this is to me, the team of around the

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Speaker 1: NFL is preseason Ravens. I get it, you know, get

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Speaker 1: to the regular season. Maybe not, But I don't see

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Speaker 1: how anyone could not, um respect what they've done. Do

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Speaker 1: we have sound? I believe there's a Commander's player who

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Speaker 1: was asked about ending the streak, and um, it's even

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Speaker 1: the way he was answering, like he didn't even know

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Speaker 1: about it, and then he was just trying to play

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Speaker 1: Kate the reporter. Let's listen it on that. This is

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Speaker 1: Cornelius Lucas on how they would celebrate if they ended

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Speaker 1: the Ravens preseason winning streak Thank you. Maybe I'd answer to, uh, maybe,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, some celebratory chicken wings. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I love chicken wings, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I get it. That's funny. That was what popped in

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Speaker 1: his head, though, I mean that's, uh, that's a great

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Speaker 1: way to celebrate. Maybe not. I don't think. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine Mark really digging into the bone, you know, and

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Speaker 1: ripping the meat off the bone. They do have that,

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Speaker 1: like that show Hot Ones on you on YouTube. They'll

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Speaker 1: when a vegetarian celebrity comes on, they'll eat the foe wings,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know, like as a vegetarian, I don't

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Speaker 1: long for that stuff. UM, I do find it interesting.

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Speaker 1: I actually went out to lunch with Greg not too

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Speaker 1: long ago, way back, you know, a couple of months Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: and like he was his first thing was with the draft,

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Speaker 1: before the draft, and like he was looking at the

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Speaker 1: menu simply looking for what I would order. Like it

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Speaker 1: was like a father looking for like his child's uh

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Speaker 1: picky eating habits. So you know, I guess that's endearing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is this not? Well? You do always of market an

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Speaker 1: eating situation if we're at a league event or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You just started thinking about it, tically figure it out.

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Speaker 1: He's in a tough spot. He's always in a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: I reached out to um our research department for some

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Speaker 1: more Ravens info. Um some historical context butn't get a response.

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Speaker 1: Is this not in a way? And I do think

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Speaker 1: this is the best Hard Knocks season for me. I've

497
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Speaker 1: had the most fun watching the Lions of of of

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Speaker 1: anyone I remember. But why not plug in on the

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Speaker 1: Ravens during this streak. This would have been incredible to watch,

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Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes, how they emphasize it. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's important to them. No matter what I said, I

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Speaker 1: think it's a good point. So I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: that they you know, it's something that's a constant talking

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Speaker 1: point in that building. Though, yeah, you catch these other

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Speaker 1: teams off guard. What I would say if you're if

506
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Speaker 1: you um, this is what they should do with preseason

507
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Speaker 1: games in general, is you start the game with the

508
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Speaker 1: worst players, and you add better players as the game

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Speaker 1: goes on. So you stick around for the focus on

510
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Speaker 1: bails on these teams, Like twelve minutes in, by the

511
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you've got Lamar Jackson going against Carson Wentz tonight.

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Speaker 1: But in general, why not if you're the Ravens and

513
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Speaker 1: things on the edge here, you just insert the entire

514
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Speaker 1: first team and I think it's going to get to

515
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Speaker 1: that point. I think it's if they win this game

516
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Speaker 1: and they get through another year, I think they're gonna

517
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Speaker 1: start changing their strategy to really see it's gonna become

518
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Speaker 1: a horrible thing. Like when he thinks about his legacy.

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Speaker 1: I think he's thinking about it already, although not that

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Speaker 1: he's gonna play as starters or play different players. In fact,

521
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Speaker 1: that's what's happened. Paying less. I think they're playing less

522
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Speaker 1: than ever right now. Um, just because he's kind of following. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 1: they had all those injuries last year. He said that

524
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Speaker 1: was his main goal was just not getting hurt. Um

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Speaker 1: all right, So good luck to the Ravens. I just

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Speaker 1: want to see it go on forever. Let's hit it,

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. One of our favorite games. One of

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Speaker 1: the flagship segs of a t M five from the

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Speaker 1: Christal Westling podcast studio in Inglewood, California. It's America's Fay

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Speaker 1: Game Show. More Beautiful. That was good Graver. You know,

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Speaker 1: I gotta give Graver props here because um, I asked

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Speaker 1: him to dig out the old drop that our old

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Speaker 1: friend the gold Standard had recorded once upon a time,

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Speaker 1: but he said, live from Culver City, m HM had

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Speaker 1: it up. No. I think we need to be refreshing,

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Speaker 1: you know, things as we go. I can also engage

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Speaker 1: a quick update to something earlier in the show, because

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Speaker 1: Sean Kelly did something pretty masterful behind the scenes as well,

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Speaker 1: and I realized it's not related to the segment, but

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Speaker 1: I think people are curious. Um. The context of the

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones glory whole quote it for this was that

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Speaker 1: he was comparing how hard he works in life to

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Speaker 1: reaching what he called, in quotes ever elusive glory whole. Um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: which apparently means a period of bliss in life following

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Speaker 1: years of hard work. Maybe alter this, I maybe go

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Speaker 1: with a new catchphrase for that period in life. At

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Speaker 1: this point, I thought it was maybe us we're looking

548
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Speaker 1: for an alternate definition. Maybe it was the sun coming

549
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Speaker 1: through that open hole in the in the stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: open hole for sure. I think it's a nice way

551
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Speaker 1: to look at it, Greg. I think if you're not

552
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Speaker 1: around your children, um, and you're not sure what it is, uh,

553
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Speaker 1: if you type it in and just clicking to the

554
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Speaker 1: Wikipedia page, we'll tell you everything. You know how most

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Speaker 1: people seek not at work either. All right, now, let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. What's more likely it is you should

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Speaker 1: understand what it means We're gonna lay out to um

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Speaker 1: options here and you're in the rest of the room

559
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Speaker 1: is gonna say, you know their opinion, And because we

560
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Speaker 1: just had our fantasy extravaganza, let's keep it in the

561
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Speaker 1: realm of fantasy. Uh, talking about uh, those players that

562
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Speaker 1: are going to be taken in drafts over the next

563
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Speaker 1: week or two. Greg get us going, okay, well, this

564
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Speaker 1: is a number of players, UM, two of which are

565
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Speaker 1: on the Commanders will be catching passes from Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like Commanders have gotten a lot of

567
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Speaker 1: pop this offseason. UM. In Washington, d C. That's why

568
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: that was. They thought that out and they were like, listen,

569
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Speaker 1: we know not everyone likes the Pentagon, but some people

570
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Speaker 1: see it as a pillar of strength in the nation defense.

571
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Speaker 1: So all right, Terry McLaurin and Johan Dotson, the first

572
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Speaker 1: round rookie receiver there have done things, gotten enough pop

573
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Speaker 1: here on this show very little. Um, both go over

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards this season, or Michael Thomas and Chris

575
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Speaker 1: o Lava of the Saints both go over a thousand

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Speaker 1: yards in each case, Um, we've got Ohio State in

577
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Speaker 1: a rookie teammate. What's more likely? Wait, wait wait, oh, yeah,

578
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Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, we're a little rusty. It's been a while.

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Speaker 1: What Um, this is easy for me, Okay, I mean

580
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Speaker 1: neither what no, but that what that's the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It could be versus ten, but it's if they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not both. They're not likely either. But I would

583
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Speaker 1: say so Terry McLaurin had over a thousand last year.

584
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Speaker 1: The way that offense was structured, it's a little different now.

585
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Speaker 1: The next guy had under four hundred, and then it

586
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Speaker 1: was a bunch of garbage. They didn't have any good players.

587
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Speaker 1: I mean, so, I hear you, but I don't trust

588
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Speaker 1: um anything about the commanders to produce two thousand yard receivers.

589
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Speaker 1: I could see Johan Dotson six fifty yards and McLarin

590
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Speaker 1: a thousand. So I'm gonna go with I think a

591
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Speaker 1: Larva is going to be a special player. Michael Thomas

592
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Speaker 1: is set to do all that, and Jamis Winston for

593
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Speaker 1: all his foilables, throws for a lot of yardage. I

594
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Speaker 1: see what you're doing, Rosenthal. You're always looking for a

595
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Speaker 1: way to hype up your Saints. So this allows us

596
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Speaker 1: to speak positively about their offense and the ceiling Uh,

597
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Speaker 1: is he that Maillan? No. I I was more like,

598
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Speaker 1: I want to talk a little dots in but go on. Uh,

599
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Speaker 1: but you know what the answer was gonna be. You

600
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Speaker 1: thought this room was gonna say Carson Wentz is gonna

601
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Speaker 1: fire off two one thousand yard receivers this year. I

602
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Speaker 1: didn't think it through that much. But I think it's close,

603
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Speaker 1: and I think I would go with McLaren and Dotson. Well,

604
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm hot. I'm a little higher on John Dotson,

605
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Speaker 1: who's getting buried in these fantasy drafts. And I know

606
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't trust everything in these practice reports in preseason

607
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Speaker 1: and stuff, but he among all these rookie receivers, I

608
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Speaker 1: think some are struggling to adapt from day one. It

609
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Speaker 1: looks like he's the dude, and some some people I

610
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Speaker 1: respect really believe like he's the dude. And if these

611
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Speaker 1: two guys are the best two receivers on the team

612
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Speaker 1: by far, I think they got a real chance. And

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Speaker 1: to me, Thomas is is a risk in a lava,

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Speaker 1: you know it might be the third receiver there. I

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Speaker 1: think it's close. Had a great Camp two and looked

616
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Speaker 1: since it's fair, the Thomas injury risk is probably the part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I interested to see Winston in a full season. He's

618
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Speaker 1: a guy's thrown for five thousand yards before, so if

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Speaker 1: they feel comfortable letting him sling it, that's obviously gonna

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Speaker 1: open up a lot of targets and abilities. So I

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Speaker 1: think that, to me is more likely. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I'll go on that note. Since you mentioned the Saints, UM,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to play into that um excitement around New

624
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Speaker 1: Orleans and their offense. Uh. And I also wanted to

625
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Speaker 1: talk about the Cults Carson Wentz, his former team. You

626
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Speaker 1: had mentioned that I had taken Matt Ryan and fantasy

627
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Speaker 1: dress before, and I always lamented that. Well you mentioned it, probably, yeah,

628
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Speaker 1: like the idea that, like, you know, unless it was

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Speaker 1: like he's like our entire two thousand and seventeen or

630
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Speaker 1: whatever year, unless it was that one season with Shanahan

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Speaker 1: where they almost won the Super Bowl. I felt like

632
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Speaker 1: every year Matt Ryan was throwing twenty six touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: twelve interceptions. So let me ask you this, what's more

634
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Speaker 1: likely Matt Ryan throws more than twenty six touchdown passes

635
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Speaker 1: with the Cults this season, or James Winston throws more

636
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Speaker 1: than twenty interceptions oh more, I'm gonna go, uh, Matt

637
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Speaker 1: Ryan because you know, I don't want to slam on

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Speaker 1: my guy Jamis here. And and to be fair, he's

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Speaker 1: played many seasons in the NFL. What was the number

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Speaker 1: twenty six interception? You need to touchdowns? Ryan? If Winston

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Speaker 1: throws twenty one, yeah, he's done six times. He's thrown

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Speaker 1: over twenties. That was where it's going, Like everyone only

643
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Speaker 1: remembers that one season, not that Jamis Winston. I would

644
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Speaker 1: say was careful and was like had a low number

645
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Speaker 1: of interception, but he only went over twenty one fifteen eighteen.

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Speaker 1: He was suspended that one year, had eleven fourteen and

647
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Speaker 1: then thirty. Um. I think it's a conservative offense. I don't.

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Speaker 1: He has to stay healthy, right, he has to stay

649
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: healthy for it. You got the Dalta naissance there. Um

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Speaker 1: doesn't come off the tongue great. But I think Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan with Frank Wrank could do it. I'd agree. I

652
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Speaker 1: think he maybe tops it by one though, Like I

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Speaker 1: don't see Matt Ryan throwing thirty four touchdowns with the

654
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Speaker 1: way their offensive structured. And I know that they've talked

655
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Speaker 1: about Jonathan Taylor not being used as much as he

656
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Speaker 1: was last year, or the Frank Rereich would rather they'd

657
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Speaker 1: be more balanced. But I think you're just gonna lean

658
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Speaker 1: on your strength and hope that Matt Ryan does what

659
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Speaker 1: you hope he would do, which probably throw about. I mean,

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Speaker 1: speaking of renaissances, let's have a Frank Rereik in the

661
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Speaker 1: in the red zone renaissance. This guy dials up plays

662
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: to me as well near the goal line as anyone,

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Speaker 1: and I think these two are going to be a

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Speaker 1: beautiful marriage. He's got five bull seasons of play, Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan since that m v P season, He's never missed

666
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Speaker 1: the game and missed one game in that time. Touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes so on bad Falcons offenses, I mean they weren't,

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Speaker 1: you know, but they had some weapons up until last year.

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Speaker 1: You know who, what do you think? What do you

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Speaker 1: think would happen? Are you allowed to answer your own

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Speaker 1: the reason why I presented because it's very tough. If

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Speaker 1: I had to, I would I would say Winston is

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Speaker 1: more likely. Okay, that would be my guess. All right,

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Speaker 1: you're up, all right, here we go. Steelers rookie wide

675
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Speaker 1: out George Pickens compiles more Fantasy points than Chase Claypool.

676
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Speaker 1: There are reports that he's been on in on two

677
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Speaker 1: wide receiver sets where Claypool was not. So I think

678
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Speaker 1: he's gonna play. It's a possibility. Or Falcons Rookie Drake

679
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: London sports a higher fantasy output than either of those

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Speaker 1: players or Traylon. Burke's winds up flat lining all season long,

681
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Speaker 1: coming in under what Anthony Schwartz did a year ago

682
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Speaker 1: as a click rookie in Cleveland. One line, he meltdown

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Speaker 1: that leads Grave Digger to throw himself into a crumpled

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Speaker 1: ball on his carpet apartment floor, leaving Jessica Jessica to

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Speaker 1: sit behind him, petting his forehead and feeding spoonful of

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: spoonfuls of Chinese takeout General Sal's chicken and SIPs a

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Speaker 1: PBR out of a can. Well, I think go ahead,

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Speaker 1: all right, I guess justin he should maybe start with

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Speaker 1: this one. Well, the trail on Burke's scenarios seems very

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Speaker 1: far fetched to me, parts of it. Where are we

691
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Speaker 1: now with I've I've lost track ever since I was

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Speaker 1: like the fan base came after me. Where is Burke's

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Speaker 1: right now? What is the vibe around him? Late now?

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Speaker 1: At the end of training camp. As we get to

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Speaker 1: the last preseason game, well, there's been some reports and

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel said this that he was running so late

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Speaker 1: into those preseason games because they want to like test

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Speaker 1: his conditioning and make sure he's in shape to play

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00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: a full NFL game as opposed to just like playing

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Speaker 1: with third and fourth stringers and that indicating his position

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: on the depth chart. But he did leave practice early

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday this week, and then he didn't practice today Thursday.

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Speaker 1: So I mean they could say, they could say that

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Speaker 1: all they want, he's out on the field and they're

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Speaker 1: taking other rookies. We mentioned Kyle Phillips, who looks like

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Speaker 1: their slot receiver, a fifth rounder off the field. They

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that they're supporting him publicly. They should and

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Speaker 1: they should be getting him ready for the season, But

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Speaker 1: it'd be a surprise if he was starting to start

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Speaker 1: the season at this point. He won't. He most likely

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Speaker 1: won't start. I mean, it's gonna be Robert Woods one.

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Speaker 1: It's not. It's not the end of the world. But

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Speaker 1: ten on the season I think is is pretty low.

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Speaker 1: That's that's ridiculous. Plus the mark he does this in

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Speaker 1: his Sandwich props gets so specific. I mean, if it

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Speaker 1: ends up being beef and broccoli that she's spooning into

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Speaker 1: his mouth in Senna general sUAS, or if it's like

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Speaker 1: you know, uh D like an import, it's like a

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Speaker 1: Keran beer instead of PBR, then it doesn't count. Like

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Speaker 1: everything's wrong. Well, there were three options, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: I'm going Pickens because that one seemed likely quite likely.

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Speaker 1: The third one, my head explodes, right, and then I'd

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Speaker 1: like Chase Claypool better than other people, though I think

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Speaker 1: Claypool could be a breakout guy with better ca made

725
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Speaker 1: a big play last week too. So you're basically being

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Speaker 1: asked to choose between Drink London Pickens in Claypool. And

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give the slight edge of that three

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Speaker 1: to Pickens, just because I honked about him before and

729
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Speaker 1: say you root for your own take is the most likely.

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Speaker 1: He just has to clear ten for one, but then

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Speaker 1: and eat chicken or something. No, he would do that,

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Speaker 1: he would be he would be ridiculous. It's not if

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Speaker 1: he likes I'll go with Pickens, so the initials, but

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Speaker 1: it could be Low Maine, it could be bud Light,

735
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Speaker 1: and then it's over. I prefer orange Chicken. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: it's just a game. It's it's just we're just passing

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Speaker 1: the time. I'm just saying, that's how I'm gonna end.

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Speaker 1: So the initial reporting that was out there that led

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Speaker 1: to Zeusser in the Power Rankings putting it out there

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Speaker 1: that maybe he was a little behind where they'd want

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Speaker 1: him to be and it's not the end of the world,

742
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like he's blowing the world up.

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Speaker 1: And then the entire Titans fan base, it seemed, came

744
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Speaker 1: at me for saying that report was lazy and stupid

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00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: and didn't know what was going on. That reporting doesn't

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00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: seem so bad. About three or four weeks later, Um, well,

747
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: so shout out to my buddy Mike Herndon, who had

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Speaker 1: the initial tweet that Burkes ran a route, like didn't

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Speaker 1: finish a route and was being coached up, like run

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Speaker 1: through the whole route and then like had to be

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00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: like adjusted where he was lining up on one snap.

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00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Rhoda world turns that into a blurb that Burke's is

753
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: running with the like second and third string and doesn't

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00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: know how to run plays, and then it took off

755
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: from there. Your friend has to realize each tweet is

756
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Speaker 1: sort of taken as its own universe. So if he's

757
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: gonna just put that he needs to be corrected on routes,

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Speaker 1: he has to understand that that might get reported as

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Speaker 1: a thing grave digger. What is what is the slick

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Speaker 1: um like thing you're wearing on your on your right arm? There?

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Speaker 1: If we can go back to the shot of you go, oh,

762
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: this is just like a little ice pack slash padding

763
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: for my I have some nervous hues. It's nothing really,

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00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: maybe too personal questions very personal. Playing mostly with the

765
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: second and third team offenses, are mostly with the first um.

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00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: He's been playing with all all of quarterbacks, and I

767
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: don't know, I think Dan is he's also he's also

768
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: had like eighty preseason snaps with like two targets, so

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Speaker 1: you know something is going First sentence of Power Rankings

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Speaker 1: entry ranked sixteen your Titans. The Titans used the first

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Speaker 1: round pick on wide receiver Traylon Burke's but don't pencil

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Speaker 1: him in for a huge role in the offense to

773
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Speaker 1: start the season. That's perfectly accurate. Who's penciling him in

774
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: for a huge role right now? That's that person's got

775
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: a question themselves. I don't. I don't even think the

776
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: writers over at a Broadway Sports Media the Titans sight

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00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: that Justin runs what like I was? I found out

778
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Speaker 1: that Titan that that Justin helps run an entire So

779
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: I used to and then when I got this job,

780
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: I had to stop doing that contative interest stuff. Yeah,

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00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: I did build that entire corporation. Corporation. I didn't know this.

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Speaker 1: You got another one, Greg, Sure, I've got a few. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's go, It's go real simple at the end of

784
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: the season in marks such a Greg troupe of this podcast.

785
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: By the way, I asked question, it's good, I like it.

786
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: I gotta cross out the drink line. Um, this one

787
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: simple at the end of the year. QB Index, now

788
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: being authored by Mark Sessler, will include either Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: in the top three quarterbacks at the end of the

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00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: entire season or Matthew Stafford as one of the top

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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks at the end of the entire season. More well,

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Speaker 1: I hesitate to answer because it sounds like I would

793
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: I could just make this happen. Can you know how

794
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: you couldn't. I mean, it's just it's just Dak versus Stafford,

795
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: who is more likely to have an m VP candidate

796
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: type of season assenter to get into your high in

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Speaker 1: the QB. It's it's at least season I would say

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Speaker 1: that would be the highest. Maybe either one of them

799
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Speaker 1: has ever finished. Maybe Dak got there once. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, I'm looking right now at this annoyed me. Actually,

801
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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's um A DP is way down there at

802
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Speaker 1: ninety UM behind a bunch of quarterbacks. I think for

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Speaker 1: me it's very clearly Stafford, because I just don't really

804
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: what do we talked about what's going on in Dallas.

805
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: You've got a lack of wide receiver talent right now

806
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: in an injury could crush him. Your offensive line is

807
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: a couple injuries away from being substandard z Elliott. There's

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Speaker 1: just a I just that where we are right now,

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Speaker 1: and I now listen to Stafford has the elbow thing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not overly concerned with that at the moment,

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Speaker 1: about missing games or really even affecting his play and

812
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Speaker 1: the Rams offense. I think passing wise, you've added Allen Robinson,

813
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: and you've got Cooper Cup and just you've got a

814
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Speaker 1: coach that knows how to do what he's doing in,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, I'm going Stafford. I think he is. Did

816
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Speaker 1: I make a bad choice? This was too obvious. I

817
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Speaker 1: think it's an easy Stafford for me too. But do

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Speaker 1: you but if Stafford's gonna throw a ton of interceptions

819
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: like did last year? Do you do you factor that in?

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00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: And it didn't really they had a lot of ye

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Speaker 1: they had an okay regular season, A good not great.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty streaky. I remember when they went down for

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Speaker 1: that bit. A lot of his bad numbers came from

824
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Speaker 1: that stretch. I I think that Stafford, as long as

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Speaker 1: that elbow is sound, and it's something definitely keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on two and at least think about on draft

827
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Speaker 1: day if you're you're caught between two guys. Uh. But Dak,

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Speaker 1: This is where it's a little bit different with the

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Speaker 1: QB index, if I'm not mistaken, um having been the

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Speaker 1: only around the NFL uh cast member now never to

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Speaker 1: write the column, But well, what if like a brick falls,

832
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Speaker 1: I haven't been building the lands on my head, I

833
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Speaker 1: won't write one either. If I didn't power and QB index,

834
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Speaker 1: my head would explain. So. But I'll say that like

835
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Speaker 1: Dad could put up bigger numbers than anybody this year

836
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Speaker 1: if the season goes and we're evaluating, like it's a

837
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Speaker 1: value who's playing the best. So it's not that I

838
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: think it's going to be lights out in this offense

839
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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I think it's a UM one two

840
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Speaker 1: punch though, because there's maybe it should have been Burrow

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Speaker 1: Burrow Stafford. M alright. Do you think there's like at

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Speaker 1: least a chance Stafford is like, is consistently better than

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Speaker 1: he was a year ago, which hasn't I feel like

844
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Speaker 1: hasn't gotten He hasn't gotten a lot of hype for

845
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Speaker 1: that where he could have a year two under McVeigh

846
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: and it's even better, and that would be scared he

847
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: got better and better in that offense. Do you know

848
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: he's grasp it on a full off season. Let me

849
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: ask you a question mark on a professional level, what

850
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: will you bring to the QB index that will improve

851
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: it from where Greg? We're like, where was Greg's index lacking?

852
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: What are you going to address to improve the product?

853
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: In your mind? Question? I think a very tough question

854
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: because first of all, West had it before Greg, So

855
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: I think you know we're talking about two icons. I

856
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: had it before West to right so yes, I mean

857
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: I I I'm going to view it as an experiment

858
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: to put my own. This is like a house on

859
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: the shore. It's a beautiful house on the shore that

860
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: keeps on getting old, and it's just like why does

861
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: this house keep getting flipped? Because there's a lot of

862
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: work and it's like, Okay, so I hope I can

863
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: do a better job than David Eale does next year

864
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: with it. So you know, I'm can I answer this

865
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: question as a former editor, Like the type of advice

866
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: I would give to Mark if we said, if we said,

867
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, I would say Mark brings a certain flare.

868
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: There's certain right early um ability and ability to see

869
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: sort of things in a different way that is absolutely

870
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: good to lean into. It doesn't all have to be

871
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: like you know, his third down percentages this or like

872
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: the tape shows this. I think you're stronger than me

873
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: certainly at seeing things in kind of an off color

874
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: entertaining way, and like include a lot of Mark in

875
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: there would be my don't you think that was that?

876
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you. All you have to do with

877
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: Dan is tell him that we went and did anything

878
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: without Dan and Dan it's gonna be well I just

879
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember you together. That's why

880
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: it's not a consistent thing. Maybe it was that we

881
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: would like I like together, but now I remember I.

882
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: UM will throw us a break now. But before we

883
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: do that, you mentioned eally UM the the Flashpoint series

884
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: UM that included, which I thought was just gangbusters work

885
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: um by whoever it was behind it, the testimonials to

886
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: the product of flash Point product UM. I reached out

887
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: to certain people in the newsroom and really really respected

888
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: the process of booking the role. I just want to

889
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: play this for you, all right. This is David really

890
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: reading for the role of Around the NFL podcast. Drop.

891
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: These guys get it. These guys get it. The guys

892
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: that get it get it. And these guys get it.

893
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: These guys get it. These guys get it. And one

894
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: more as a throwaway, these guys get it. That's a

895
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: real voice. Sector He's given you a lot to work with.

896
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: Was exactly like the rest of them, and it was

897
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: a little more playful. The middle one was the one

898
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: where he did a little improv the dialogue he did

899
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: I was, you know, at in the office when you

900
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: were Hope came bouncing into the newsroom after recording that

901
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: and let me know that he had taped something and said,

902
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is some sort of segment destroying me

903
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: that's gonna be He's like, no, actually, it's like you're

904
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: on the right side of history. And then he went

905
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: bouncing back to his desk. He had he had a

906
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: fun time. His Instagram stories are often like travelogs where

907
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: he's like pretending to be a travel host. So check

908
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: that out. If you're into his work as a voice

909
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: that you guys will hear something else insane. I reached

910
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: out to five different people at the company to record

911
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: a line, including Sean Kelly, who we love behind the Glass.

912
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: Sean Kelly is the only one that took that to

913
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: mean for him to dig out some AI voice modulator

914
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: to create a fake voice. And I thought last point

915
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: is simply awesome. And I said to Kelly after we

916
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: were doing the hard Box podcast, I was like, Wow,

917
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: that was actually pretty cool. It didn't even sound like

918
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: you was like, oh, I got I used an Ahi bod.

919
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what, how is it possible you didn't

920
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: take that. It's just record something that send it. But Sean,

921
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I just want to say you did go the extra mile.

922
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: So I do appreciate it, but that was kind of insane.

923
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Dan. Thanks When you said that,

924
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: I thought I was like, you know, oh, he wants

925
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: like a he's gonna get a bunch of generated voices.

926
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: Randy Chos behind the scenes also has a lot of

927
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: great social for the pod does a lot of generated voices.

928
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, oh, I'll get a generated voice,

929
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: and I did, and you wanted a real one, and

930
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: that's it. You know, I'm like Instagram or TikTok when

931
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. All right, that's you said. It's so fast

932
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: no one could possibly if you're listening to this podcast

933
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: on one point five all right, thank you, Sean. I

934
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: appreciate your effort always. Let's take a break and uh

935
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: do a little bit more. Alright, we're back, let's finish

936
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: this off. Do I have another one? Did I go yet? No?

937
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: It's my turn is yeah? No, you went third, didn't you? Yeah?

938
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: I go second? Nice try. Oh you're asking if you

939
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: even have one, so I could have given you space

940
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: to create one that has a lot that last twenty

941
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: seconds is where you hope to be on one point

942
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: five speed? Get through it? A little quicker, that's true.

943
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: How about this a lot of Kyle Pitts love in

944
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: the fantasy community. Obviously, he jumps off the page, he

945
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: jumps off the screen. Uh. He went through year one

946
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: as a rookie, so now he's comfortable in the game

947
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: and he's still put up. I think close to a

948
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: thousand yards. This could be the year. They think, depending

949
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: on quarterback play. Of course, it's always depending on that

950
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: that he could become a monster because he has that ceiling.

951
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: Now Kyle Pitts t e three in fantasy, and remember

952
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: who we're talking about. There's some giants in there, there's traps,

953
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey Andrews, Darren Waller. But he breaks into that group

954
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: that top three and displaces someone or my boy Alajah

955
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: Elijah More becomes the first one thousand yard receiver for

956
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: the Jets since two thousand fifteen. So to second year

957
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: players with a lot of upside, what's more likely? More,

958
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: that's really tough because I think both of these are

959
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: very likely. Like I am very bullish on both of

960
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: these things happening. I think Kyle Pitts could could go

961
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: for like fourteen hundred this year and and be an

962
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: All Pro yet I am picking Elijah More because I

963
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: think the bar is just lower there for him, and

964
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: I feel really good about both of them. I think

965
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: Elijah More just you can't teach how he gets open.

966
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up being the clear number

967
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: one there, at least in terms of production, in terms

968
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: of consistency week after week. And I feel like that's

969
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: that's a pretty low bar here with seventeen games that

970
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna safely clear, And with Pitts you just never know.

971
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: If Andrews and Kittle and and like three of those

972
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: guys have monster seasons, even if Pitts was good, maybe

973
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: he could be T four. So I'm going More. You know,

974
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: it's like the other tight ends make it tougher on

975
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: Pits also, I mean, you know, Marcus Mariotta, Desmond Ritter.

976
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of like weirdness

977
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: where they're running the ball a ton and like it's

978
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that he's set up for that monster season,

979
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: but being a tight end like and being who he is,

980
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's in probable. I'm gonna go Elijah

981
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: More though, because they have quarterback issues as well. Potentially

982
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: we just don't know who Zack Wilson is. I it

983
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: may be better if Joe Flacco is in there for

984
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: Elijah More for a while, but uh, you know, he

985
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: had five and thirty eight yards last year playing only

986
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: in eleven games. It just sort of the math tells

987
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: you that if he plays a full season, I think

988
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: I've taken him for a thousand. You know, Matt Harmon

989
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: called him a star in the making based on everything

990
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: he's seen from and watched him, and I think the

991
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: last year it was a tough offense to be in

992
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: for every one of those guys. More organized this year

993
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: around Elijah Moore has it. I think Garrett Wilson's not

994
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: has not been one of the rookies that have blown

995
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: up in camp there there. It's not been that journey

996
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: for him. And so you wonder if Elijah Moore absolutely

997
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: is just the guy for the first half of the

998
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: seas gonna be on so that that's my due. I

999
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: think he's electric. I can't remember, you know, you had

1000
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall that one year, but a guy that was

1001
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: really maybe Santana Moss where I was like, Okay, this

1002
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: guy is he can make those defenses look silly with

1003
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: how how quick he moves, and he had you know,

1004
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: he had an eight for one forty one game last

1005
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: season against the Dolphins, and I think he was already

1006
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: blowing up when he got injured. Have been with Flacco.

1007
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: I remember when I did make him leaving. That's why

1008
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm so high on him. As I went back to

1009
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: watch him and I was just like, man, this guy's

1010
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: sudden and he had some of his biggest games with

1011
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: Mike White and Flacco. He did, but he also had

1012
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: a big ending to the season when Wilson came back

1013
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: to So it wasn't all just with those guys. All right,

1014
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: one more, one more? I mean, we could stay here

1015
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: all day. One that he's pumped about. Let's just keep

1016
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: it simple. Second year quarters actually my turn, though, Greg,

1017
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: So you're gonna you're gonna keep it simple by listening

1018
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: to this. I wanted to far. We could have taken

1019
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: that one. This is about someone that you that you

1020
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: like the sort of for you, Tom Brady. That guy

1021
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: notches forty plus touchdowns for the third straight season in

1022
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, operating as a fantasy god and sticking the

1023
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: landing on a high octane January playoff spot or Tom Brady,

1024
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: nestled inside a depressing autumn, struggles behind a rough and

1025
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: tubble offensive line, and pumps out a sub thirty touchdowns

1026
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: and fifteen plus interceptions. Hold on the bus? Do you

1027
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: think I'm just gonna end it there? The Bucks finished

1028
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: nine and eight, gets slammed in a thirty five to

1029
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: seven wild card lost to the Saints, in which Brady

1030
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: throws a disastrous pick six before the half that sees

1031
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore dance ninety yards down the sideline to carve

1032
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: out a twenty one nothing lead. The other one hold

1033
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: On video captures Gazelle in a luxury suite, hammering rum

1034
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: and coax and telling a gal pal. I told Tommy

1035
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: not to do this for another year, but instead be

1036
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: home and play Lego bricks the kids. Brady retires one

1037
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: week later. Wore a request like the in the in

1038
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: the back room, a lot of laughs. Can you take back?

1039
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: Took the to take the spirit of the second one

1040
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: where we're talking like I'm not calling it. Brett Farve

1041
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: Year two with the Vikings, a darker ending and maybe

1042
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: Dan finally what you thought of so long ago? The

1043
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: gradual now actual decline right, I'll take it as like

1044
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: as a mediocre ish season where they made the playoffs,

1045
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: and maybe he's like the thirteenth best quarterback basically his

1046
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season. We've seen this season out of Tom

1047
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: Brady before. Um, I'm still going to go that the

1048
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: first one is more likely because this offense is loaded

1049
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: at receiver and humming and I haven't seen any reason

1050
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: not to believe in it all, right, Yeah that even

1051
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: it's funny perspective how things get warped, even that bad

1052
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: Tom Brady season at the end of New England when

1053
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: they went twelve and four and he threw for four

1054
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: thousand yards, twenty four touchdowns and just eight and or seven.

1055
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: He's never even thrown fifteen interceptions in the season once

1056
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: his entire career. He's never done it. He's this is

1057
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 1: his twenty third season, So I don't think he's getting old.

1058
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's like other people. And I think

1059
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: he'll have another big year. Could there be some bumps

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00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: along the road we'll see and then in the start

1061
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: of the season, but I think by the time we

1062
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: get to December, the Bucks will be a player and

1063
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: he'll be carving up defenses. They were a team. We

1064
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: were almost bored by this offseason because there wasn't anything

1065
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: left to say. And now with all the suddenly there

1066
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: is right, with all the obstacles they have in their way,

1067
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: they're they're weirdly more interesting. All right, do you want

1068
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: to throw one more out there? It's up to you.

1069
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: You seem like you're ready to go. Mine was mine

1070
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: was simple. This episode started with with you targeting me

1071
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: as someone who needs to hit the door, and now

1072
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: you feel like, actually, but I agree, I agree, I agree.

1073
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: It feels like I do want to hear it now.

1074
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: Now I gotta hear It's so basic, that's it's It's

1075
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: um which second year quarterback? Two? I framed it wrong

1076
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: here Mac Jones ends up being the most productive second

1077
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: year quarterback this season, or Trevor Lawrence. There's no other

1078
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: second year quarterback that could even be a possibility. Those

1079
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: are the two that I'm giving you. You've annoyed Dan, basically,

1080
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: who's you gotta have a better season? If you want

1081
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: to just take out the second year quarterback? I think

1082
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: they're the heavy favorites personally over over fields or over

1083
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. One development in the preseason or Trey Lance

1084
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: for that matter. Is the play of Trevor Lawrence. I

1085
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence is going to have a big, huge

1086
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: jump and he's he's got the right coach and he's

1087
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: got a couple of weapons around him. There there, Travis E.

1088
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: T n looks good, Christian Kirks looked really good. I

1089
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: just kind of think that he's going to make that

1090
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: that leap. And Matt Jones, I just think probably one

1091
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: more stay where he was a year ago, unless that

1092
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: offense is a complete master. Yeah, I had a backup.

1093
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: What's more likely that contended the possibility of Trevor Lawrence

1094
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: being a QB twelve this year. So that's I'm putting

1095
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: it out on record. He reminds me a little bit

1096
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen maybe coming into a second year. They're

1097
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: very different players in that he just misses a lot

1098
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: of throws and that always bothers me as someone that

1099
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: got super into the QB and next and Lawrence is

1100
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: still missing those throws, and I think that's gonna come.

1101
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: He does the hard stuff really well and he's so athletic,

1102
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: but I still think it might it might be more

1103
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: gradual where he's like a mid level quarter. Even in

1104
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 1: the last game he had an overthrow in the end zone.

1105
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: He had a bad misfire along the sideline. But I

1106
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: do think he like his athleticism. The way he runs too,

1107
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot to like if you can shore

1108
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: something that should have thrown Trey Lance in there by

1109
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: the way. I mean people were drafting tray lands by

1110
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: the way, like in the eighth round last year. As

1111
00:59:51,280 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: a backup, okay, developing news. Before we say goodbye, I

1112
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: turned my computer off, so now I'll fire back up.

1113
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: There goes Mark. Did you really turn the computer off

1114
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: before we ended this show? I thought we were. I

1115
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: would that I didn't need a computer to speak with

1116
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: you at the Can we get a camera on Mark

1117
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: from the moment we signed off to see how quickly

1118
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: he gets out the door today? That's how where I'm

1119
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: coming from. Uh this from our friend Jordan Rodrigue at

1120
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: the Athletics. Sean McVeigh has hired Jake Rowden as a consultant.

1121
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: That's okay, Well, I mean, you know Jake gridd Where

1122
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: has he been? We know where John is John's inn exile,

1123
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: but j I guess it was out on the streets. Too,

1124
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: and now he's now he has a home in southern

1125
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: California like us. I. The last I saw him, he

1126
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: was like smoking a heater outside of like a club

1127
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: video at like one in the morning, looking like having

1128
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: a good time and nothing nothing wrong with that. Uh.

1129
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: I've always thought Jay Gruden is very underrated. I think

1130
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: both him and John Gruden are like a minus play

1131
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: caller slash game designers and that everything else kind of

1132
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: that comes along with the Griden packages is what ruins them.

1133
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: That if they could just call plays, they're they're great

1134
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: at that. Whenever I hear about these sort of consultant

1135
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: type jobs overpaid. Whatever he's doing, it's not he's not

1136
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: doing enough. My very mark guys who make too much money. Not.

1137
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: It's like who's doing more work? Camera, Bruce Arians, I'd

1138
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: love to track that. Let's put a camera on that.

1139
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: During the course of the year. Um, do you know

1140
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: the NFL Top one They have their list that's wrapping up.

1141
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: There's twenty more spots, Mac Jones five on the list.

1142
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: What is it the voting of this thing? That's like

1143
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: when Baker Mayfield that I mean someone put him as

1144
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: a top twenty player and people get mad at the

1145
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: NFL network, So we'll make our yearly announcement. Not only

1146
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: is it the players who decide, and it's just talling

1147
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: players votes. They only pick a top twenty and then

1148
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: it's like a point system. So for someone to even

1149
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: get on the list, that means like multiple people. Probably

1150
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: his teammates put Mac Jones in the in the top twenty.

1151
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: There was like one year where the Seahawks were dominating

1152
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: out of nowhere in like twenty nineteen. It was like

1153
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: it was clear, just like a more Seahawks filled out

1154
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: the former than the other teams. So someone puts David

1155
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: Montgomery as a top twenty player in the NFL, I

1156
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: would say for him to land, yeah, and enough people,

1157
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: enough people did for him to get even into les.

1158
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: Kyle use Check, the fullback for the Niners, made number

1159
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: one hundred. Like he's showing up on a bunch of lists.

1160
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: I think someone interesting. Yeah, it's like Debo filled it

1161
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: out and he's like, I love Kyle Man. I'm putting

1162
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: him five. All your own teammates, there were some weird runs.

1163
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: You know, Trevon Diggs and Bobby Wagner are both in

1164
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: the top thirty. I guess Trevon Diggs did have a

1165
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: great year. Um, how about the disrespect for your boy?

1166
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: Lamart six that's a former m v P. It was

1167
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: formerly number one on this but this is why this exci.

1168
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Now he's below Kevin Byrd, Right, Yeah, when Kevin Byrd

1169
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 1: comes up thirty four, great player, But that just makes

1170
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: me think like someone put him number one his teammate

1171
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: or a lot of Titans filled them out that day,

1172
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: or someone put him one because they just freaking love

1173
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Byrd. And then someone's trying to tell me that

1174
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: Corey Lindsley is more valuable than Russell Wilson according to this. Yeah,

1175
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. Zack Martin is always buried in

1176
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: like the seventies, even though he's like a first time

1177
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: the first ballot type Hall of Fame guy, and he's

1178
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: now he's like never in the top fifty. We have

1179
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, all right, Wait really quick,

1180
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 1: I just want to say I'm disappointed that we got

1181
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: through a whole segment called What's more Likely and nobody

1182
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: mentioned Ravens rookie tight end, Isaiah likely. It's just so easy.

1183
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why we didn't do it. Maybe we all

1184
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: thought of it were like, I mean, also as a producer,

1185
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: you could have potentially thrown that out before the show

1186
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: if someone wanted to weave it and if it was

1187
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: so valuable Greg, but I don't think he saw it.

1188
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: You could have done I wouldn't have done it likely,

1189
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: and you could have found a guy, you know, let

1190
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: rondel Moore. Yeah, I mean you had an opportunity. You

1191
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: had an opportunity justin to ride More Isaiah likely. You know.

1192
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: See it's just doesn't make any sense. But I missed

1193
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: it Elijah More also, but whatever. Sean Payton, by the way,

1194
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: doing his first work for Fox, I saw over the

1195
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: weekend and did the half type and he went and

1196
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: he went hard on this joke in the way that

1197
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: he said it twice, He's like, I think he's likely

1198
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: to make the roster, which was not only like a

1199
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: bad dad joke, but kind of showed that he wasn't

1200
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: totally locked into what was going on, because like he

1201
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: was locked to make the roster like a long time ago.

1202
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: So you're saying that Sean Payton is not doing his

1203
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: homework in this broadcasting gig that clearly is just a

1204
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: way to get nine million dollars before he becomes a

1205
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: coach next year. He looked youthful. I thought, more youthful

1206
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: than he did. On the side, I think Jay Glazer

1207
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: is one of his best friends in the world, and

1208
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: they're just paling around up there. All right, we're heading

1209
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: into the weekend. Mark. Anything you want to share about

1210
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: your plans? Not really, why would I share them. I

1211
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good idea to tell people where

1212
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: I'll be or what I'll be. Right, you don't have

1213
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: to give specifics, but I mean, I also I don't know.

1214
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: That's what I like about, Like a stretch like that,

1215
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: you go find out on your own adventure. Good stuff.

1216
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for listening. We'll be back next week.

1217
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: We're getting closer. We're inside two weeks. Kick off ten years.

1218
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: That'll be the end of our weekends. Heed the call.

1219
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Speaker 1: H