1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Good Morning. 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 3: This is Laura, Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: episode is going to be a longer one part of 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 3: the series where I interview fascinating people about how they 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: take their days from great to awesome and any advice 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: they have for the rest of us. So today I 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: am delighted to welcome Henley Vazquez to the show. Henley 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: is a travel expert, the co founder and CEO of Fora, 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: which is a travel platform. So Henley, welcome to the show. 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 4: Hi, thanks so much for having me. Good morning morning. 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, tell us a little bit about yourself yet. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 4: Well, you and I go way back. Laura and I 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: actually went to college together, and since then I've spent 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: actually most of my career working as a travel agent, 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: which was not something that I even knew existed before 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 4: I fell into it by accident and then have sort 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: of accidentally found myself heal in the wild world of entrepreneurship. 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: Fora was my third company. We launched in twenty twenty one, 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: really with the goal of sort of breaking down the 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 4: barriers to entry that existed within the travel agency industry 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: and building up the technology which was essentially non existent, 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: and since then it's been at a pretty great experience 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 4: seeing lots of new folks coming in and preparing for 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: what we think is the next generation of travel. 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so fora is kind of I mean, you can 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: describe it better than me, but sort of part of 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: this gig economy where people can turn time into a 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: job in a way that doesn't fit within the parameters 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: of a normal sort of forty hour a week in 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: one spot kind of thing. 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: Correct, correct, Yeah, I think flexibility is the key, and 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: that's something that didn't exist previously in this industry. There's 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: a lot of people out there who know a lot 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: about the travel, that travel quite frequently, that love travel. 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: They're often the go to person within their network for 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: planning a trip for someone, but they were never monetizing that. 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: They were just leaving that money on the table. So 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: our goal was to say to them, come in, we'll 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: give you the training, we'll give you the tools, and 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: we'll give you the flexibility to build this in addition 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: to your forty hour a week, in addition to your 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: nine to five, or to let you do it full time. 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: So that is the biggest thing for us. Is that 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: we want to give people platform where the business is 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 4: meeting them where they're at, not where someone else says 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: it should be. 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely And maybe you could tell our listeners because maybe 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: some people listening to this are like, well, I don't 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: understand why would travel agents be a thing now? I mean, 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: I can just go on the American app or United 52 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: app and book book my flight. So why do people 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: seek out advisors in this day and age. 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get asked that all the time. And that's 55 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: actually why I call myself a travel agent, even though 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: the industry has mostly converted to the term of travel advisor, 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: because when you say travel agent, people immediately understand you 58 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: book trips and earn money that way. But aren't you 59 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 4: like a dinosaur? Do you exist? Yes? We actually were 60 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: named by LinkedIn as the fifth fastest growing job in 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: the US right now because so many new people are 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: actually coming into the industry and building careers around it. Now, 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: why do you need us? I'll use an example. I'm 64 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: sitting here in New York. There's a hotel I quite 65 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: love nearby called the Beakman. If you, Laura, were to 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: just go on line or go on an ota like Expedior, 67 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: booking book the Beakman Hotel, It's going to be one price. 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 4: If I go on and I plan this amazing trip 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: for you to come up to New York City, come 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: visit me, and spend a weekend at the Beakman, it's 71 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: going to be the same price. You're also going to 72 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: have breakfast included, plus upgrades, plus resort credits. And because 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: we have a relationship with a hotel, I'm going to 74 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: get paid that commission, So I'm going to earn something 75 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: without you suspending any more. And they're going to vipu. 76 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: They're going to put you in a different category than 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: the people that come in because I'm going to share 78 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: why you're coming. Are you bringing kids? So it really 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: is a superior way to book travel at no cost 80 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: to the traveler, But most consumers don't know that we're 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: doing this or think that we're a more expensive channel. 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would imagine there's also just the expertise 83 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: in it too. I mean I would go on a 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: site and see that there were, you know, fifty hotels 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: in New York and I'm reading reviews but I don't 86 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: know what to make of them, Versus a trusted person 87 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: telling me no no, no, Laura, you want to stay 88 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 3: at the Beatman exactly. 89 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: And this I was a way down in the USBI 90 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: recently and I was talking to another guest at the 91 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: hotel and he said, but why would I use you 92 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: chat chee PTI just gave me a great itinerary for 93 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: Thailand And this was this beautiful island in the USBI. 94 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: It's called Lavongo. It's rustic. There's not traditional hotel rooms, 95 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: it's tree houses on hilltops. And I said, well, because 96 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: this amazing room that you're in costs just the same 97 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: as a room over at the Ritz Carlton and Saint Thomas, 98 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: which is an entirely different experience. You love this. If 99 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: you just look online, these two things might seem similar. 100 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: They cost the same, they're kind of in the same location, 101 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: but the experience is entirely different. And so that matchmaking, 102 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: that personalization, I think is particularly in the time of AI. 103 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: The human is the pre Yeah. 104 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: Well, and it can save you some serious time too. 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're you know, spending hours waiting through 106 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: you know, all of this online, I imagine that's what 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: I don't have. 108 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 4: Time one hundred cut through the clutter. You don't know 109 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: what's real. You don't know what's Instagram. You don't know 110 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 4: that what your friend liked is even what you did. 111 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: Let somebody go do the work, because again, it comes 112 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: for free essentially. Yeah. 113 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 3: Well, Henley, as someone who travels a ton, I'm sure 114 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: you have built up all sorts of routines around travel 115 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: and ways of doing it better. I've recently been on 116 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: a lot of long plane flights and I find this 117 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: time incredibly hard to use. 118 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: Well. 119 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: I wonder if you have any advice for how you 120 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: use plane flights to to, you know, make your life 121 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: not feel like you just want to get off the 122 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: plane right this second. 123 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: I think most of us do just want to get 124 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: off the plane right this second. That said, I spend 125 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: way too much time on planes, and I you have 126 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 4: to be productive there because otherwise this week and I'll 127 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 4: spend like most of the day tomorrow flying to Vancouver. 128 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: So how do I use the time? I really try 129 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 4: to be on planes where I feel like the Wi 130 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: Fi is reliable, And I know that that's a little 131 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: bit of a like. I don't know, we'll see, but 132 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: it is. If you find out that a plane doesn't 133 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: have good Wi Fi or a certain route doesn't have 134 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: any WiFi on it. I don't fly it because what 135 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: I use is that time to email and then in 136 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 4: particular to catch up with a lot of my advisors 137 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: are on these WhatsApp groups and we have an internal 138 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: chat system, which it's hard for me to keep track 139 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: of that during the day with meetings and sort of 140 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 4: other work and projects that go on. When I'm on 141 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: a plane, I try to be really responsive to those 142 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: because I'm stuck there. I can't do anything else. It 143 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: may be hard for me to think creatively when I'm 144 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: in the sky, but what I can do is bang 145 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: out email responses, catch up on correspondence, and really get 146 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: into those chats and be kind of a real time 147 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 4: brainstorming partner for these advisors. 148 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and do you think through like you know, this 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: is how my energy is going to be on this 150 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: long flight, Like this is when I need to rest, 151 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: this is when I need. 152 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: To read this. I mean, I'm very curious. Do you 153 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: map this out ahead of time? 154 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? I know that I'm bad at sleeping on planes, 155 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: so I don't even try to do that because it 156 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: could be it just I get frustrated with it. I 157 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: think I know some people who actually do get their 158 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: creative juices flowing in the sky. And they know that, 159 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: so they save that time for I'm going to work 160 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: on a memo about a project, I'm going to write 161 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: a speech. I know that I'm not that way, so 162 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: I don't try to force myself into doing tasks that 163 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: I won't excel at, because I'll just end up hitting 164 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: my head against the wall. The only way that I 165 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 4: actually do relax on a plane, which if not really 166 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: sometimes movies, is I actually listen to podcasts, because then 167 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: that way I can like sort of zone down for 168 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: maybe you know, thirty minutes to an hour and feel 169 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: like I've learned something which may then inspire me to 170 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: jump back into some element of my work and get 171 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 4: that done. 172 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely well, We're going to take a quick ad break 173 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: and then I will be back with more from Henley Vazquez. 174 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: Well, I am back. 175 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: I am talking with Henley Vazquez, who is a travel expert, 176 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: the co founder and CEO of four Up, which is 177 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: a travel platform. We've been talking about time on planes. 178 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure you also have ways you pack, so maybe 179 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: any advice for people who wind up packing frequently about 180 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: how to do this better. 181 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: I'm the worst packer. You know what my vice is 182 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: about packing is feel no shame about your style of packing, 183 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: because I actually travel so much that I can get 184 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: myself into a ball of anxiety trying to like you know, 185 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: edit down into a carry on. If it is four 186 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: days or more, I'm checking that bag, I could spend 187 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: all the time. And again, because we're talking about time management. 188 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: If I know that I'm traveling the next day, and 189 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: this is so for me tonight when I go home, 190 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: I can spend time with my kids, or I can 191 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 4: spend time panicking over if I'm going to fit the 192 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: right clothes, for the right outfit, for the right speech 193 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: into a carry on, or I can throw everything that 194 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: I want in that up, check it tomorrow, be done 195 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: with it, and spend that time with my kids. So 196 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: I think, like, choose your battles wisely when it comes 197 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: to packing. For some people, they thrive on a really 198 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: great edit and picking out their their outfits. I am 199 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: terrible at fashion. I know it. I put as much 200 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: as I can possibly fit in and move on. 201 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I've just lost my luggage. 202 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: So I'm like now traumatized by the experience that will 203 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: do it, that. 204 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: Will do it. 205 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: So I'm kind of team carry on only after that, 206 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: although I've managed to like lose my carry on bag too, 207 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: So I. 208 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: Mean, I'd love to be I mean, I really I 209 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 4: like my goals in life are to become better at this. 210 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: But you know, again, if it's you know, once I 211 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 4: get to four day's it's it's done. It's out the wind, 212 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: that's done, It's done and over. 213 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely is there anything surprising though that you bring with 214 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: you that people are like, ah, that's a I wouldn't 215 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: have wouldn't have pegged that. 216 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: Hmmm. I think I probably bring more shoes with me 217 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: than I need, and that is because I insist on 218 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: having a pair of running shoes with me, and so 219 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 4: you may need a pair of flats, a pair of boots, 220 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: a pair of heels, and I will always bring the 221 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: running shoes as well as, you know, the casual walk 222 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: around sneakers. I think the minute that you don't pack 223 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 4: those shoes, and that it does take up a lot 224 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: of space, the minute you don't pack them is the 225 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: time that you really wish, you know, you could you're 226 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 4: up early with jet lag when you're going to the 227 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: West coast, you could have gone to the gym, you 228 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: find a little bit of time, you could have run 229 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: for twenty minutes to get outside and get some air. 230 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 4: I think the ability to fit a little bit of 231 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: fitness into your travel schedule is essential. I do not 232 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 4: leave those at home. And I know a lot of 233 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: people are like, I don't need it, or I'll do 234 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: some yoget that's not for me. For me, it is 235 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: like hitting a treadmill, or it's going for a run outside. 236 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: That is my efficient way of getting some exercise into 237 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: my life. So the running shoes are always coming with me. 238 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely no exercising when you're traveling. It's like you're winning, 239 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: right winning. 240 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: I fit this in it? Yeah yeah no. 241 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: And when you're in hotels, are you able to anything 242 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: you do to rest better when you're away from home? 243 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: That's interesting. I love putting the ac way down, like 244 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: you know, in ways that you might not want to 245 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: pay for at home, and make it nicely called at night. 246 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 4: I also do make use of things that I might 247 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: not do otherwise, like room service, which is feels a 248 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: little bit like a splurge for breakfast. But when I 249 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: know I've got a busy day of meetings or conferences 250 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: to have food come to my room so that I 251 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 4: can be there and be banging out my emails and 252 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: getting my work done. I'm all about the before breakfast work. 253 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: So when I can do that early and not be 254 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: down and talking to people in a restaurant and waiting 255 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: for it, it is a It's an investment in giving 256 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: some time back to my day. 257 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely all about having an efficient breakfast, but a real breakfast, 258 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: like real We like real breakfast here on this show. 259 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: So, Henley, you are managing a fast growing business. 260 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: You also have three kids. 261 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: Are there any routines you have that make you more 262 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: productive and efficient? 263 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: I do think it is about It's about the before 264 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: breakfast and after dinner. So you know, the middle of 265 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: the day is challenging and it is busy, and it 266 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: can go sideways very quickly with something you didn't expect 267 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: to happen. But in the morning, when I'm in the 268 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: kitchen making the kids lunches, make breakfast, I basically it's 269 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: my stand up desk guid the laptop open and I'm 270 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: talking to them. I'm getting the ready, but I'm also 271 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: going through sort of the pre day emails to get 272 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: some things out of the way at the end of 273 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: the day, after dinner, I really try to put my 274 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: work away to have dinner with the kids or not 275 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: if I'm on my own, or to just sit down 276 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: and you know, maybe watch some TV and eat some 277 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: sushi by myself, but to actually then after dinner pick 278 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: it back up, not try to do any heavy thinking, 279 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: but just clear a few more things out of my 280 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: life because I do sleep better. Don't work right up 281 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: until the moment you go to bed, or your brain 282 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 4: is spinning all night. But I think that before breakfast 283 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: and that after dinner, logging you know, an hour each time. 284 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: It doesn't feel stressful, but it actually brings down the 285 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: level of work that you're going to have to do 286 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: during the day, because often the days are tied up 287 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: with talking and with meetings and in person react interactions 288 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: that need to exist. 289 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's definitely true for anyone who's in a 290 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: leadership role. Is you know, you have the part of 291 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: your job which is responding to the people who are 292 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: working with you and dealing with the crises that come, 293 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: but of course you still have the stuff you have 294 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: to do, and so if you don't separate out the 295 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: two a little bit, then you're always when you're engaged 296 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: with the people who are working with you, you're like, 297 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: but I know I need to be doing this, and 298 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: then you can't relax. 299 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: Is that how you feel? 300 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? It is, and I know I'm starting to experiment. 301 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: I've been reading a lot about people who have done 302 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 4: away with one on ones with their direct reports and 303 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: actually created one meeting where all their direct reports come 304 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 4: in and they all discuss what's going on together. Because 305 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 4: as you're talking about this, really everybody who's on that 306 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: team should be hearing it. So that's something that I'm 307 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: considering starting, because even those one on ones, it can 308 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 4: eat up a lot of your time during the week, 309 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: and when you travel too, you have very precious time 310 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: to engage with your direct reports. I don't feel that 311 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 4: I'm able to give a ton of time and attention. 312 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: Un Luckily, everybody I work with is really independent and 313 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 4: a go getter. But I think there's ways that you 314 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: can tweak that world, that part of your world, to 315 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: try to have a more efficient way of communicating with 316 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 4: your team. Yeah. 317 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: Now, this is not your first business venture that you've 318 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: you've started, correct, You've you've done the entrepreneurial thing before. 319 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: Is there anything you've you've learned as you've been on 320 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: this journey. 321 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: Clearly not because I just keep doing it. You know. 322 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 4: The biggest this is I yes, I was part of 323 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: I was a founding part of the founding team at Indagari, 324 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: which is a membership based travel company, and then I 325 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: founded a smaller agency called Passport. It ran that until 326 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: the pandemic told us both it was time on. 327 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you travel took a hit. 328 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: COVID did that to hospitality. But this, you know, building 329 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: fora really was mission driven. It was not just about 330 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: starting a business. It was about starting a business with 331 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: the right co founders, which is so essential and with 332 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: something that would keep me up at night and drive 333 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: me to get up in the morning. I deeply care 334 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: about what our advisors are doing. We are giving them 335 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: a platform to start businesses. We are giving them the 336 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: ability to become entrepreneurs themselves. And that is something that 337 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: I think if you are starting a business, being a 338 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: business owner, it's big or small, it is hard. And 339 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: now our advisors were big. We've got thousands of advisors. 340 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: They've sold over a billion dollars of travel in the 341 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: last three and a half years, so they're doing a lot, 342 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: but it's not really about those numbers. What it's about 343 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: is feeling so engaged to the mission that you can't 344 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: imagine doing anything else, because if you're doing this just 345 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: for the numbers, it will break you. 346 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: So that is that is probably true with entrepreneurship in general. 347 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: Is there anything you sort of do to relax? I mean, 348 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's stressful. They don't have a fast growing 349 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: business and stuff like that. 350 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: I love TV. 351 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: I really, what are you watching these days? 352 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: What are you watching? I love? I love all of 353 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: the TV. That's the thing. People, do you have time 354 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: to watch? You them? Of course I do? What else 355 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: would I do? I love my nights with TV and 356 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: a glass of wine and a frozen Reese's cup. But 357 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: I know I do that, you know, sitting there turning 358 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: on the TV at night and watching the new season 359 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: of Nine Perfect Strangers right now with my daughter. But 360 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: I think the the thing that helps me relax really 361 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: is just when you're in that point where you feel 362 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: overwhelmed and busy, because owning a business is hard, that 363 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: reminder of why you're doing it, and like how lucky 364 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: we are to all be able to have the ability 365 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: to work in this kind of environment is really ultimately 366 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: what brings the stress down absolutely. 367 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: Well, We're going to take one more quick ad break 368 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: and I'll be back with more from Henley Vazquez. Well, 369 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: I am back talking with Henley Vazquez, who is the 370 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,119 Speaker 3: co founder and CEO of Fora, which is a travel platform. 371 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: So we have you know, probably people listening to this 372 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: would be like, well, I'd love to travel more. However, 373 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: I have sort of limited PTO. I wonder if there's 374 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: some adventures you can recommend that people who are in 375 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: that position might might look into doing. 376 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, So this is something One of the really fun 377 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: things about having such an extended community here at for 378 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: is that we can spot the trends in the data 379 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: in a way that other people, sort of smaller agencies 380 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: can't see. Domestic travel is what is happening right now, 381 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: and particularly for folks who have limited PTO or just 382 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: frankly looking at the prices of a flight to somewhere 383 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: and going is Europe really happening for me this summer? 384 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: It is? Do not sleep on domestic travel. We've seen 385 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: a massive surge in domestic bookings. People are still traveling 386 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: for longer lengths of time. But you can easily get 387 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 4: away for a long weekend to Charleston or Austin, or 388 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: Moab or Jackson Hole. There's so much to do within 389 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: the bounds of the country that limits the travel time 390 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: to get there, limits the expense of arrival obviously with 391 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: the flights that then you can kind of choose. If 392 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: you're trying to stick to a budget your family, you've 393 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 4: got to get a couple of rooms. You don't have 394 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 4: to spend as much you can, say, in really cute hotels. 395 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: On the other hand, if you're saving in other ways, 396 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: this might be your excuse to splurge on a really 397 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: exceptional dude ranch, which is we've seen just blowing up 398 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: as an option for multi generational travel. So I think 399 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: the biggest piece of advice is use an advisor because 400 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: they're going to help you sort through which one is 401 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: right for you and two. Don't feel that just because 402 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: it's not exotic in some way that it's not worthwhile. 403 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what are some other travel trends that you're saying. 404 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: You mentioned dude ranches for intergenerational travel or Moab as 405 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 3: a destination. 406 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: What are some other ones that are hot? 407 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 4: Right? Yeah, I mean, there's obviously a lot of active 408 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: and adventure travel happening at the moment. When you talk 409 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 4: about dude ranches and mob I think there's kind of 410 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: the wellness I would it's a huge trend, but I 411 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: would almost lump it into active adventure because wellness means 412 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 4: so much in terms of who you're talking to. It 413 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: might mean a spavacation, it might mean a detox, it 414 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: might mean climbing a mountain, it might mean sitting on 415 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 4: a beach and getting in a facial But the idea 416 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 4: of self care and wanting to return from your trip 417 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 4: a better person or a better version of yourself is 418 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 4: for sure a big trend that tends to be like 419 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: a January February March style of travel. This summer, what 420 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 4: we're seeing is yes, a huge surgeon domestic travel, but 421 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: we're seeing Greece pop off in a way that I 422 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: have not seen in a few summers. Right when you're reopened. 423 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: Greece was one of the earlier countries that were letting 424 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 4: travelers enter and had a very big summer, and then 425 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: people kind of were doing the Italy thing and the 426 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: fans thing, and now this summer I've never seen such 427 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: a surge in Greece bookings as I have before. Then 428 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: of course there's always the white Lotus trend of wherever 429 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 4: they are filming, wherever they have just released a season. 430 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: Thailand is exponential growth. If you want to go to Thailand, 431 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 4: and i'd say, and sort of the rollover into the 432 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: rest of Southeast Asia, do not plan this last minute 433 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: planet ahead of time because the hotels are booking up. 434 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 3: They're like, well, you and everyone else who was watching this, 435 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: you and everyone else. 436 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: I think it's really neat though, because you realize that 437 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: this sort of content inspired travel, which i'd say Yellowstone 438 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 4: and Dude Ranches or you know, Bridgerton and the English 439 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: countryside is really fun because you, as an advisor can 440 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: get in there and help them figure out. Okay, so 441 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: maybe actually Thailand is too booked up, but let me 442 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 4: tell you about Vietnam. Vietnam is phenomenal and we can 443 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 4: do a lot of the same experiences. Or maybe when 444 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: you're planning to travel, it's actually not the right season 445 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 4: to be in Thailand. Hey, but Bali is great in 446 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: the summer. So I think there's there's so much that 447 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: we can get in there and help people match, make 448 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 4: their vision that they've seen on TV because we all 449 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: love TV, to what their actual experiences on the ground, 450 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 4: and make sure that it is what they actually want, 451 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: not what just sounds like the right choice. 452 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely well, and I mean just because you know, we 453 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: don't get to travel probably as much as we want. 454 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe you're on a plane more than you wish, 455 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: but in terms of like leisure travel, so we you know, 456 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: it's kind of about making it special, right, I mean, 457 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 3: like taking their leisure time seriously. 458 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and no, despite the fact that I'm on a 459 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: plane all the time, my actual like choice time as 460 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: my second grader, I would say, is very limited. I 461 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: almost never get to choose where I would go. So 462 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: when I'm traveling with my family or making or by 463 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: myself to go away for a spa weekend, it is 464 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: really important to make that matter. So making sure that 465 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 4: I feel comfortable with a budget. Am I spending more 466 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: than I want to spend and it's going to stress 467 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 4: me out? Making sure that it checks off a box 468 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: sometimes for me, I'm taking the kids to Nicaragua this summer. 469 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: That's a place I've been wanting to go for a 470 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: long time. We spent part of COVID living in Costa Rica. 471 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 4: So this is sort of going back but doing something 472 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: a little bit different. So how do you have something 473 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: that checks the box. It's new, or it's returning to 474 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: a place that's really special to me, or it is 475 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 4: you know, it's off season, so I'm actually getting more 476 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: for my money by going to a place that isn't 477 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: prime time, or I'm also this summer, I decided I'm 478 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: going to Sardinia. Everybody on earth is talking about Sardinia, 479 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: and I said, you know what, I got a good 480 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: deal in some flights and off I go, because I 481 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: actually do want a little bit of that sort of 482 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: European summer fun. So I think figuring out what's important 483 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: to you and your limited leisure time, because it is 484 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 4: limited for everybody, is like sort of what's the vector 485 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 4: that hits that absolutely? 486 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: So Henley, I always ask people, what is something you 487 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: have done recently to take a day from great to awesome? 488 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: Ooh, oh, I actually have I actually know exactly what 489 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 4: it is. We launched for Mexico last week, which is 490 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: really exciting to see the advisors in Mexico joining a 491 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: platform that has now been created for them, so not 492 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: just the American platform, but actually we pay them at 493 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: Pistos we have training in Spanish. It is an amazing 494 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: community that's building there. So I flew down. It was 495 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: really busy with press and work and sort of all 496 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 4: the regular stuff. But I took an hour in the 497 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: middle of the day and I looked at a restaurant 498 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: I really wanted to go to, and I took a 499 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 4: book with me and I walked across Mexico City to 500 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: go to Ultra Marino's and had one of the best 501 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: lunches I have ever had in my life, just by 502 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: myself with great food and a book. And it wasn't 503 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: it felt completely indulgent to do this, But the walk, 504 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: just seeing in the city. I love Mexico City. Really 505 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: good food that is, you know, not something I'm getting 506 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: down the street here. That turned the day from a 507 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: great day, because it was a great day. We're launching. 508 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: It's exciting. I'm there with the advisors, but that was 509 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: just for me and it turned it to awesome. Oh. 510 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: I love that. 511 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 3: I love finding a little pocket in the day for 512 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: something that just makes a day amazing. 513 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: Ye, And what are you looking forward to right now? 514 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to well, My oldest daughter is actually 515 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: she's just finished her freshman year of college and she 516 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: is working at a hotel this summer, so she's following 517 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: a little bit of mom's footsteps of hospitality. She'll be 518 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 4: up in Martha's vineyard. And you know, I get to 519 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 4: see people in the early stages of their travel, advising 520 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: careers all of the time with this job. It's so fun. 521 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 4: And I was listening to your podcast about cheering first 522 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: and thinking how how much that is like we should 523 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 4: we should be cheering for people from the beginning. How 524 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: what the effects of that? And now I get to 525 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: cheer for her as she's sort of working as a 526 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 4: host in a restaurant and checking people out in a 527 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: general store and learning what it is to sort of 528 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: be that sort of public facing role in hospitality and 529 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: see how she likes it. So I am really looking 530 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 4: forward seeing how our summer goes. Also, who doesn't want 531 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: to be in Martha's vineyard? I know, what a great 532 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: going to visit her. Yeah, wonderful, wonderful. Well, Henley, thank 533 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: you so much for joining us. Thank you to everyone 534 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: for listening. 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