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Speaker 3: twenty five NFL Draft is upon us just hours away.
Speaker 3: JP Shadrick, Jeff Logoman, full busy hour ahead. We'll have
Speaker 3: Tony Bassellian studio coming up, a live report from Green
Speaker 3: Bay with Brian Sexton. James Gladstone in the draft room.
Speaker 3: I caught up with him just a little bit earlier,
Speaker 3: and yes we will predict some picks tonight. We're on
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Speaker 3: JP Shaddick with Jeff Logoman and the Executive Vice President
Speaker 3: of Football Operations, Tony VASSELLI.
Speaker 4: You've dressed up for the draft. I see that's really there.
Speaker 5: Well, I do have I do have clothes all changing.
Speaker 4: I just got a little work out in so oh
Speaker 4: good for you. Are the nerves there yet? How you feel?
Speaker 4: And first draft? All the work and all the build.
Speaker 6: Up, you know, I mean excited more than anything just
Speaker 6: for the uh, for the opportunity to get in there.
Speaker 6: And I think we're gonna actually I don't think. I
Speaker 6: know we're gonna be better after this weekend as a
Speaker 6: football team. But you know, we've done all the work.
Speaker 6: I mean, we prepared, we put long hours in. The
Speaker 6: scouts have done a great job. James has been amazing
Speaker 6: leading our coaching staff, led by Liam getting in and
Speaker 6: doing it together. So it's like at this point now
Speaker 6: it's kind of you just kind of wait, and you know,
Speaker 6: obviously we pick early, so less there's fewer variables.
Speaker 5: To worry about.
Speaker 6: But then we're gonna get into you know, you're get
Speaker 6: in the rounds two through seven.
Speaker 5: You're at the mercy of what happens a little bit
Speaker 5: before you.
Speaker 6: So you gotta you know, you have a plan, but
Speaker 6: you got to be ready to pivot and kind of
Speaker 6: be flexible.
Speaker 7: So you're saying, there's less variable, so you're saying you're
Speaker 7: not trading.
Speaker 5: Back as we speak right now.
Speaker 4: You know, we'll see.
Speaker 7: All right. So the whole reason we brought you in here,
Speaker 7: it's a that's a good cacking, that's a good catch.
Speaker 5: A good player. Yeah, I think you know he'll be
Speaker 5: a good football player. Listen, I think you know.
Speaker 6: You look at the team and what we've done in
Speaker 6: free agency was purposeful.
Speaker 5: One.
Speaker 6: We wanted to raise the floor, but we also wanted
Speaker 6: to fill some gaps with guys who we were confident
Speaker 6: could come in and start day one and so that
Speaker 6: we weren't going to be forced to do anything when
Speaker 6: we got into the into the draft. So because of that,
Speaker 6: we feel really comfortable with our options. We've obviously targeted
Speaker 6: a handful of players each round, because we picked five today,
Speaker 6: and you know, as far as trading down, that's going
Speaker 6: to be, you know, continuing to evolve as you know,
Speaker 6: as we have conversations and kind of see what's available.
Speaker 6: It has to be the right You don't just trade
Speaker 6: down to trade down. You have to have a couple
Speaker 6: of things, want a willing partner them. The compensation has
Speaker 6: to make sense for us, and then we want to
Speaker 6: make sure there's a guy we like in the first
Speaker 6: round wherever we land, and so we'll evaluate everything, but
Speaker 6: we feel pretty comfortable where we're at right now.
Speaker 7: What has it been like to uh, to really understand
Speaker 7: from really an intimate perspective of what intangibly rich really means.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, Jeff, you and I watch tape all
Speaker 6: the time, and in the past you probably actually watched
Speaker 6: a little bit more than me getting ready for the draft.
Speaker 6: But we'd watch tape and all you have to go
Speaker 6: by is what's on film, because we don't we're not
Speaker 6: back when we're doing radio and when I was doing
Speaker 6: you guys do. It's not like you're diving into the
Speaker 6: character and the background information. We don't have that information
Speaker 6: available to us. But if you think back Jeff to
Speaker 6: when we played, it wasn't always the biggest, strongest, fastest
Speaker 6: guys who were the best football players. There's more than
Speaker 6: just physical attributes. It's the competitive nature of the individual.
Speaker 6: It's the football instincts. It's the you know, the love
Speaker 6: of the game like love and ball, you know, all
Speaker 6: these things going into it's how they learn intelligence. They're intelligence.
Speaker 6: How much can they comprehend? How do they process information?
Speaker 6: So these are all kind of what you'd say in
Speaker 6: you know, watching film, you can evaluate some of that stuff.
Speaker 6: You can see their play demeanor, if a guy's finishing
Speaker 6: blox or finishing plays or chasing and pursuing you can
Speaker 6: see that competitiveness there, but then it's taught. You know,
Speaker 6: our scouts have done a great job they always have
Speaker 6: of talking to the coaches, the strength coach, the equipment coach.
Speaker 6: They're high school coaches who they're with, So that's kind
Speaker 6: of what builds that overall profile. And ultimately we just
Speaker 6: want good football players.
Speaker 4: Tell me WASSELLI with us?
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Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube closing in on Round.
Speaker 8: One of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 4: How do you know beyond the tape if a guy
Speaker 4: loves ball? Well, how do you find that out?
Speaker 3: Especially at this day and age with college and the
Speaker 3: nil and things, the landscape has changed for prospects.
Speaker 6: It's much more difficult, There's no doubt about it, because
Speaker 6: you can't just go to the one university.
Speaker 5: When Jeff and I played, I mean he went to Virginia.
Speaker 6: I went to USC So it was a single place
Speaker 6: the scouts can go to and say, tell me about
Speaker 6: this individual. What's his work ethic? Like, what are that
Speaker 6: in the weight room? How do they practice? And so
Speaker 6: these are all kind of clues you can kind of
Speaker 6: understand what the competitive nature of the individual is. It's
Speaker 6: the same thing today, but now it's multiple colleges, it's
Speaker 6: multiple phone calls, multiple touch points, and sometimes you got
Speaker 6: to be careful because you might hear one thing about
Speaker 6: a guy at his first school. He transfers and he's
Speaker 6: only with this other school for one season, a very
Speaker 6: short window, and they have glowing reviews. So is that
Speaker 6: really who he is, right or is he putting on
Speaker 6: an app act because it's a short window and he's
Speaker 6: auditioning for a job. I mean, these are all the
Speaker 6: nuances that we go through and try to do the best
Speaker 6: we can to understand who the individual is now.
Speaker 7: In the past, you would always see coaches and players
Speaker 7: that were at one program. The coaches are trying to
Speaker 7: get those players drafted as high as they possibly can
Speaker 7: because it's it's it further sells the program that they're
Speaker 7: trying to build. Yeah, I would think that having a
Speaker 7: player having experience at a couple different places, you probably
Speaker 7: get a little bit more of an honest perspective when you.
Speaker 6: Get a whole rounded Yeah, And Jeffy, it's a great point.
Speaker 6: I mean, we want to hear from that coaches. There's
Speaker 6: no doubt about that. But yes, I also have to
Speaker 6: be realistic. These guys are selling the program to the
Speaker 6: next recruits coming and the last thing you want to
Speaker 6: do as a head coach is bad mouth.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna do one.
Speaker 6: Of your players because the next guy's coming up. They
Speaker 6: hear about that, and you know that's not well and
Speaker 6: it does.
Speaker 7: Get that player drafted. The higher you get to put
Speaker 7: your drafted, the better exposure your program gets.
Speaker 6: And so and anyone who's been football also understands. Go
Speaker 6: talk to the trainers, Go talk to the wait coach,
Speaker 6: Go talk to the equipment coach, Talk to the support
Speaker 6: staff that spend a lot of time with.
Speaker 7: Us as players, and they'll give you.
Speaker 5: They'll give you, they'll give you a pretty good view
Speaker 5: of who the individual is.
Speaker 7: I would be in contact with every equipment staff about
Speaker 7: that player that I was thinking about. Sure they know
Speaker 7: all the intimate details I've said players, no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, JP Shatter, Jeff Lago and Tony WASSELLI with us
Speaker 3: on Jaguars Happy Hour. Give us your behind the scenes
Speaker 3: as much as you can. Look at James Gladstone in
Speaker 3: the process he's put together to get to this point.
Speaker 4: How impressive.
Speaker 3: Is it what stands out the most about his efficiency,
Speaker 3: his mindset, his his operation as a whole.
Speaker 6: I'll just give you my perspective in all kind of
Speaker 6: three areas. I was convicted that he was the right
Speaker 6: choice when we hired him right before the combine, more
Speaker 6: convicted now after working with him. His communication ability is
Speaker 6: uncanny of how he can take in a lot of
Speaker 6: information from a lot of different sources and kind of
Speaker 6: correlate and synthesize all that information and communicate it to
Speaker 6: the right stakeholders and make decisions from it. And then
Speaker 6: the last thing, he is a he's a killer. I mean,
Speaker 6: don't underestimate Jane Gladstone. I mean, he is very good
Speaker 6: at what he does. He's very focused, understands it, and
Speaker 6: throughout the process has done a great job of jumping
Speaker 6: into the middle of the situation in bringing everyone together
Speaker 6: to make sure he's getting all the right information that
Speaker 6: we can get to the right decision.
Speaker 7: A Number two. You we brought up the communicator. It's
Speaker 7: unreadied just I mean, our opportunity that we get obviously
Speaker 7: is not as wide as the perspective that you get.
Speaker 7: But listening to him talk, it's impressive. And what I
Speaker 7: love here is that you refer to him as a killer,
Speaker 7: because look, the reality is, in that line of work,
Speaker 7: you've got to be confident, uh and unwavering and your
Speaker 7: commitment to your beliefs and an understanding of players that
Speaker 7: you're gonna be picking and if you're if you're not,
Speaker 7: then you're just gonna get beat up and tossed aside
Speaker 7: with and get eaten up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And just to go step further what I mean
Speaker 6: by killer because people are like, what do you mean
Speaker 6: he's GM. It's not like he's out there on the
Speaker 6: fields eating.
Speaker 5: Guys up or anything. I'm not talking about the physical
Speaker 5: side of it.
Speaker 6: He he's very good at his job and and part
Speaker 6: of that. And this is what we did when we
Speaker 6: went through the interview process. And I'm glad it's worked out.
Speaker 6: And we're still in the early stages, so we got
Speaker 6: a long way to go. We'll hit the adversity and
Speaker 6: I think we'll even see it more at that time.
Speaker 6: But I wanted to make sure and so did Liam,
Speaker 6: that we got that the individual there's gonna be the
Speaker 6: GM that was gonna partner with us. Because Liam and
Speaker 6: I talked about this a lot, no ego, not ego driven,
Speaker 6: and not a personal hidden agenda, because those two things
Speaker 6: kill an organization. And when I say there is none
Speaker 6: of that, and there's a there's a lot of humility
Speaker 6: combined with that attitude that he's just fearless. He is
Speaker 6: not afraid to make tough decisions, in big decisions. And
Speaker 6: that's what I say to Killer, He's unwavering and so
Speaker 6: and then the last thing that I enjoy because we
Speaker 6: have to come to work here and lead him the draft.
Speaker 6: It's long hours. My favorite part about this job outside
Speaker 6: of I got to work at this organization and do football.
Speaker 6: I get to work with two really good dudes like
Speaker 6: Liam and James as good dudes at the end of
Speaker 6: the day. And Jeff knows it's being a locker room.
Speaker 6: You want the locker room filled with a bunch of
Speaker 6: good dudes because then you'll figure it out. As long
Speaker 6: as they're competitive, love ball and they're good dudes, you
Speaker 6: can get through about anything. And that's been probably the
Speaker 6: most fun of the process.
Speaker 7: And you can't build culture. She got good dudes doing.
Speaker 6: It right, because you think about culture, culture is all
Speaker 6: that really is at the end of the day, and
Speaker 6: we use different words, and those are important. The words
Speaker 6: are important. It's what we live out every day in
Speaker 6: the building. And it starts with leadership. What is leadership
Speaker 6: living every day because that gets filtered through the whole
Speaker 6: building and then that's just who we are. And so
Speaker 6: that's what we're trying to build. And we've had you know,
Speaker 6: free agency, we got the draft. We were on the
Speaker 6: field this week. That was fun with the voluntary uh.
Speaker 5: Mini camp Vetri Mini caamp.
Speaker 6: Great see the guys out there competing and uh, it's
Speaker 6: one step at a time. But ultimately, you guys know this,
Speaker 6: none of us are gonna be judged until September.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3: You'll find out when the balls of the balls of
Speaker 3: the t week one exactly right there. This could be
Speaker 3: obviously a youth movement for the Jaguars, right you know,
Speaker 3: ten draft picks, there's a lot of room on this
Speaker 3: roster right now, Tony.
Speaker 6: We have fifty nine signed players. That is the least
Speaker 6: in the NFL. I'll put it this way. During Vetrian
Speaker 6: mini camp, we had scouts and coaches playing scout team.
Speaker 5: What were you playing? No, no, no, no, you.
Speaker 6: Have to actually be able to run James, Yeah, and
Speaker 6: we are wildly comfortable with that. We're gonna get ten
Speaker 6: draft picks over the next three days. We're gonna go
Speaker 6: target and try to get approximately twenty undrafted free agents,
Speaker 6: and then we'll see if we fill out the rest
Speaker 6: of the spots with a couple other veteran free agents
Speaker 6: that are still out there. But you're gonna have training
Speaker 6: camp when we're all sitting watching together as Liam and
Speaker 6: our players and our coaching staff are out there working,
Speaker 6: you were going to see a competitive environment because jobs
Speaker 6: are wide open. Come grab one, and we're gonna have
Speaker 6: a bunch of young guys who are hungry and fighting
Speaker 6: for a spot on the roster.
Speaker 7: You bring up the roster composition of the number right
Speaker 7: now fifty nine. A lot of people, I think don't
Speaker 7: understand as a lot of times you kind of really
Speaker 7: have two. Well, there's multiple tiers of free agency, but
Speaker 7: you have a second phase of free agency, which typically
Speaker 7: happens after the draft and teams wait to see what
Speaker 7: they draft to there for to see what they need
Speaker 7: to plug in. I'm sure that's the approach there was.
Speaker 5: We'll look at things. We have some good ideas.
Speaker 6: I mean, well, we have a like I said at
Speaker 6: the beginning, we have a plan of what we're gonna target,
Speaker 6: we're gonna go after in each round.
Speaker 5: But let's say we miss.
Speaker 6: Let's say we don't get some of the guys we
Speaker 6: want a certain positions. Obviously, we still there's a number
Speaker 6: of still good players out there that have played in
Speaker 6: starting games in this league, and we'll do what we
Speaker 6: need to round out the roster. But expect a lot
Speaker 6: of young guys running around here come two weeks from
Speaker 6: now on working meeting camps there.
Speaker 7: All right, So, so big question here. I think every
Speaker 7: NFL team, for the most part that has has been
Speaker 7: asked us, so is there an interest in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: Less than zero Western zero?
Speaker 3: I had to ask you that you heard it here
Speaker 3: first you can I can confidently say we are not
Speaker 3: going down that path.
Speaker 5: Not going down that path.
Speaker 9: We are.
Speaker 6: We feel pretty good about our quarterback, and it was
Speaker 6: good to see him out there throwing shoulders, coming along
Speaker 6: good his left shoulder, the rehab, he's been working his
Speaker 6: tail off and and we're excited about what he can do.
Speaker 7: How about the the I guess how do you say this?
Speaker 7: The immersion and the new offense. I mean, it's got
Speaker 7: to be a challenge. I mean, it's a system three
Speaker 7: for him. And look, he's a bright guy, but how
Speaker 7: was that going.
Speaker 6: Well, he's very bright and he's a very hard worker,
Speaker 6: and so that combination he'll be fine and great. Yudinsky,
Speaker 6: offensive corner is doing a great job, and we have
Speaker 6: a really good staff. And I think one of the
Speaker 6: smart things several smart things that Liam did when he
Speaker 6: built the staff, he brought guys in here that he
Speaker 6: did either worked with or had worked in the same system,
Speaker 6: with the same language that he had. So it was
Speaker 6: is it we're onboarding a whole offensive staff and our quarterback.
Speaker 6: And then we brought in Nick Mullens who comes from
Speaker 6: the system, Johnny Wolford who was in Tampa out of
Speaker 6: that system, and at the RAMS out of that system.
Speaker 5: And so what we've purposely.
Speaker 6: Done is surrounded Trevor with a lot of guys who
Speaker 6: understand to accelerate that that combined with his work ethic
Speaker 6: and his intelligence, I'm not worried about it at all.
Speaker 3: Good Tony Boselli, Executive vice president Football Operations, Welcome back
Speaker 3: to TV Land.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to be back on how's it been going? Good?
Speaker 7: Good? Actually, better than before after leaving to hang you
Speaker 7: for the draft show that we've got tonight. It's a
Speaker 7: long night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where are you guys doing that tonight? We're doing
Speaker 5: the podcast. Okay, I'll jump down there.
Speaker 6: It comes to Hi, do you guys after the pick
Speaker 6: and chop it up a little bit?
Speaker 3: Who do you?
Speaker 5: I've been asking everybody.
Speaker 6: I did some stuff with brand earlier in Austin, And
Speaker 6: who do you guys want?
Speaker 5: Five? Give me Jensi Jensie back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, explosive, five foot eight and a half, hard to tackle.
Speaker 4: Well, mind you a little bit watching them and you know,
Speaker 4: not as wide as Maurice.
Speaker 5: No, but bounces vision a little better vision.
Speaker 6: But people, if you remember Maurice come out of UCLA,
Speaker 6: people would like bounce off of us, right and similar
Speaker 6: to yeah, he's a powerful.
Speaker 7: We think logs wide receiver. Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter. Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 7: Everybody wants hit that wide receiver.
Speaker 4: He ain't getting a five, so I mean so it
Speaker 4: might have.
Speaker 2: To move up a little.
Speaker 4: Oh that's it.
Speaker 5: We'll bring Jeff down about talk to just go make
Speaker 5: the pick?
Speaker 3: Ye uh, Tony, thanks man, Yeah, Tony, guys, it should
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Speaker 4: Brian Sexton from Green Bay.
Speaker 3: When we return, this is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 3: So that is Travis Hunter from Colorado, wide receiver and
Speaker 3: cornerback at the NFL Draft yesterday. Some community events in
Speaker 3: the Green Bay area and some of the prospects making
Speaker 3: their way around town yesterday, all getting ready for the
Speaker 3: big night at Draft Central outside lambeau Field, the nuts
Speaker 3: so frozen tundra. Here at the end of April and
Speaker 3: welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logman.
Speaker 3: We're at the Miller Electric Center, just down the hall
Speaker 3: from the draft room where the Jaguars leadership will make
Speaker 3: the pick at number five.
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see what happens tonight.
Speaker 3: Brian Sexton is in Green Bay, Wisconsin and he joins
Speaker 3: US Now live from Draft Central.
Speaker 4: How you feeling.
Speaker 8: What's this scene?
Speaker 4: Looks like there's a lot of a lot of fans
Speaker 4: starting to file.
Speaker 5: Into Green Bay.
Speaker 11: Listen, if you see me do this, it means I'm
Speaker 11: about to get run over because we're in the middle
Speaker 11: of the parking lot, which seemed like a great spot
Speaker 11: to set up about an hour ago. But all of
Speaker 11: a sudden, there's just been this deluge of folks that
Speaker 11: come through with either something to say or maybe just
Speaker 11: sort of a threatening approach. It's a live and active crowd, guys.
Speaker 11: I don't feel in danger.
Speaker 2: But let's put it this way.
Speaker 11: I feel like I could get knocked down by somebody
Speaker 11: who's a little too boisterous.
Speaker 7: All right, So, Brian, I mean many people did not
Speaker 7: expect Green Bay to be hosting a draft. Of all places,
Speaker 7: where is everybody staying in Green Bay? I don't know
Speaker 7: if there's enough hotel rooms to fit everybody. Are they
Speaker 7: reunning every house out in Green Bay? Now?
Speaker 4: You know this?
Speaker 11: This kind of feels a little bit like when Jacksonville
Speaker 11: hosted the Super Bowl twenty years ago. They had to
Speaker 11: come up with alternative plans, right, so we brought in
Speaker 11: cruise ships.
Speaker 2: They haven't quite done that.
Speaker 11: I'm told that there are a lot of folks that
Speaker 11: jumped onto Airbnb. We're staying in Appleton, which is about
Speaker 11: half an hour from here. There's a lot of folks
Speaker 11: who are staying north up towards Michigan, and plenty more
Speaker 11: that are driving in from Milwaukee. It doesn't have the
Speaker 11: infrastructure and so they're not expecting the turnout like they
Speaker 11: had in Detroit last year. There was upwards of seven
Speaker 11: hundred and fifty thousand people who attended the three days
Speaker 11: of the draft at Cadillac Square in Detroit. They're expecting
Speaker 11: about two hundred and fifty thousand. It's just it's narrow,
Speaker 11: there's not a lot of places to park. It's they're
Speaker 11: doing their best and they've got this whole title town
Speaker 11: thing going, so that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Brian Sexson joining us from just outside lambeau Field in
Speaker 3: Green Bay, Wisconsin. The twenty twenty five NFL Draft coming
Speaker 3: up a little after eight o'clock tonight is the first round,
Speaker 3: all right, So we heard from Travis Hunter they we'll
Speaker 3: for some more prospects coming up throughout this evening. You
Speaker 3: caught up with a bunch of those guys yesterday. What
Speaker 3: stood out the most about some of your conversations.
Speaker 11: Well so, Ted McMillan was the funniest because I asked
Speaker 11: him the receiver from Arizona, have you heard from the jaguars?
Speaker 11: And his response was, nobody's heard from the jaguars, am
Speaker 11: I Trippman? Has anybody talked to the jaguars? And of course,
Speaker 11: you know, we knew that they weren't doing their thirty
Speaker 11: visit routine this year, but I was just curious if
Speaker 11: in any way, shape or form he had had made contact.
Speaker 2: He said no.
Speaker 11: I asked Ashton Genty about being born in Jacksonville and
Speaker 11: the potential of coming home, and he smiled and said,
Speaker 11: duvall he knew about the history with Fred and the
Speaker 11: comparisons to Maurice Jones. Drew Travis Hunter was great. I
Speaker 11: asked him point blank, what position are you playing? He
Speaker 11: said both. I said, you're holding on to that? He goes,
Speaker 11: why shouldn't I? And Mason Graham was quiet. You know what,
Speaker 11: lots of two and three word answers, but logs. He
Speaker 11: had the biggest forearms. I mean, he made Tyson Alu
Speaker 11: Alu look small with his just the dimension from his
Speaker 11: elbow to his wrist so strong, powerful fit that he
Speaker 11: was a heavyweight wrestling champion in the state of California.
Speaker 11: They were all interesting, all good guys, which is what
Speaker 11: everyone's looking for.
Speaker 2: They're looking for good guys. I heard Tony on with you.
Speaker 11: They're looking for good dudes in the locker room, and
Speaker 11: all of those guys were good dudes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Mason Graham, I mean, you're talking about
Speaker 7: the intangibles are way way, way high. But I don't
Speaker 7: know if there's any intangibles that are higher than with
Speaker 7: Travis Hunter Bryan. I mean, the more you read about
Speaker 7: this guy, the more you get impressed with him. I mean,
Speaker 7: he's just an outstanding individual on top of being an
Speaker 7: outstanding wide receiver and defensive back.
Speaker 11: Well to your point, Jeff, we were talking with him
Speaker 11: and he talked about being a better corner, a better
Speaker 11: wide receiver. He said he was really more focused on
Speaker 11: being a better husband, which I thought was a great
Speaker 11: line for him.
Speaker 2: He's married to his high school sweetheart.
Speaker 11: You probably saw the story in the Athletic that he
Speaker 11: loves to bass fish is a very.
Speaker 2: Competitive bass fisherman.
Speaker 11: He's just a really good guy and has a great
Speaker 11: head on his Shoulders. He was asked about the father
Speaker 11: who's under house arrest or a confinement of some sort,
Speaker 11: being allowed to come to the draft, and he said,
Speaker 11: the only thing I can say is it's a blessing
Speaker 11: to know that my dad's going to get a share
Speaker 11: this night with me. Just a really grounded guy. And
Speaker 11: I guess I was surprised Jay, Jeff and JP because
Speaker 11: you know he's around Dion Sanders. You just would figure
Speaker 11: he'd be this flamboyant character, two way player, the best
Speaker 11: player in the draft.
Speaker 2: No way.
Speaker 11: I mean, he was humble, he was confident, but he
Speaker 11: was just a normal guy man. If they would make
Speaker 11: a move up for him, I'd be really excited about that.
Speaker 2: And listen, if they take genty at five.
Speaker 11: He was a real million megawatts smile, carried on a
Speaker 11: great conversation, could just effortlessly move between reporters and questions.
Speaker 11: And a young man came up and wanted to take
Speaker 11: a picture, and he said, hold on, and he stepped out.
Speaker 11: These guys that the Jaguars are considering at the top
Speaker 11: of the draft, or I should say, are reportedly considering
Speaker 11: at the top of the draft, our first class human
Speaker 11: beings from my limited interaction with them yesterday at the
Speaker 11: Play sixty events.
Speaker 7: Brian, one of the things that's kind of been newsworthy
Speaker 7: about the first round picks that potentially will be picked
Speaker 7: tonight is that the number kind of dwindled a little bit.
Speaker 7: I think the NFL started out with the hopes of
Speaker 7: getting thirty players maybe there, and I think the numbers
Speaker 7: down to about fifteen. So you probably got an opportunity
Speaker 7: to talk to everyone that was there.
Speaker 11: Well, listen, I was on my way to talking to
Speaker 11: everyone and all of a sudden it started raining and
Speaker 11: we had to go run in for the car, So
Speaker 11: I only.
Speaker 2: Got to talk to those few guys.
Speaker 11: But you know, there was only what offensive lineman, Will Campbell,
Speaker 11: there were a few defensive linemen. They're just this has
Speaker 11: become the draft has become a spread out affair, and
Speaker 11: guys throw their own parties and have their own, you know,
Speaker 11: YouTube channels lined up, and so you don't have that
Speaker 11: centralization they had when you were drafted and everybody was
Speaker 11: in New York. There are some rumblings around here that
Speaker 11: in future years Bill work to get a couple of
Speaker 11: the big names from the second round on for Friday night,
Speaker 11: so that They've got more players here, but more and
Speaker 11: more of the top players. Although again the top players,
Speaker 11: the big three that you've talked about, Hunter, Carter, and
Speaker 11: Genty are all here. Cam Ward is here, Will Campbell
Speaker 11: is here. There are some big names here, but there's
Speaker 11: just not many of them.
Speaker 7: And you can tell that the Green Bay locals don't
Speaker 7: have much much experience with TV, Brian. They're all dancing
Speaker 7: around behind you in the background.
Speaker 11: Listen, I told you the guy came by earlier and
Speaker 11: I thought he was gonna knock me over.
Speaker 2: He wanted to get in front of the camera so bad.
Speaker 11: I've never felt that way, but I'm like, you know
Speaker 11: where there's a sniper on the roof.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at him right now, and I want to.
Speaker 11: Just do one of these. You got my back because
Speaker 11: I can't see what's going on behind me.
Speaker 7: Don't keep pointing up there.
Speaker 8: Just stop the pointing up there.
Speaker 2: Bright Oh god, I don't want his attention to either. Listen.
Speaker 11: Overall this is this is a great environment. They have
Speaker 11: so much here, and you know, the Jaguars haven't played
Speaker 11: a regular game. They were here in twenty twenty logs,
Speaker 11: but we were traveling back then. This place has changed
Speaker 11: so dramatically since twenty twelve when Plaine Gabbert had his
Speaker 11: I think his only three hundred yard passing day as
Speaker 11: a Jaguars quarterback. I mean, there's so much that's been
Speaker 11: built up around her. Title town is an office complex
Speaker 11: with condos and all sorts of recreational opportunities. There's more
Speaker 11: restaurants and hotels around here. Not four seasons hotels Hampton
Speaker 11: in right, but there's there's a lot around.
Speaker 2: Here these days, all right, Brian, So it's a cool place.
Speaker 7: Last question for me, because you know when we were
Speaker 7: in Steven's Pointless Consint going way back to the Jaguars
Speaker 7: first training camp. Ever, Okay, one of the must that
Speaker 7: you absolutely had to do when you were in Wisconsin,
Speaker 7: especially around Green Bay, you had to have an order
Speaker 7: of kurds and a pitcher or a glass frosty mug
Speaker 7: of Point beer. Have you that yet?
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 11: I will never touch a cheese curd. I don't care
Speaker 11: who orders it. I will never ever touch it, smell it,
Speaker 11: taste it. But the Point beer might have been on
Speaker 11: tap last night, and I have fond memories of our
Speaker 11: nearly six weeks in Steven's Point Wisconsin. For those of
Speaker 11: us that were on staff that showed up a little
Speaker 11: earlier than the union representative who refused to show up
Speaker 11: one day early.
Speaker 2: Oh that was you. No, But listen, lots of great memories.
Speaker 11: But you know what's funny is is nobody here remembers
Speaker 11: the Cheese League. It's gone. It was that brief moment
Speaker 11: with the Bears and the Chiefs and the Saints, and hey,
Speaker 11: thanks appreciate your participation in our show.
Speaker 2: Are you right?
Speaker 11: You see the crap I'm dealing with out here, But listen,
Speaker 11: I'll take it for the team for happy hour.
Speaker 5: Fantastic.
Speaker 4: We just do the rest of the show like this
Speaker 4: Green Bay.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, who do you want me to talk to?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: The next guy that comes by, the next guy that
Speaker 2: comes he's gonna get it.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: Final thought.
Speaker 8: We'll get you out of here before you get heckled anymore.
Speaker 2: Who do you want?
Speaker 5: Who do you think to go?
Speaker 2: By the way, some of the wacky weed is, oh
Speaker 2: who do I want?
Speaker 11: There's there's a guy over here who's burning something he
Speaker 11: shouldn't be burning. Then that's probably why I'm distracted all
Speaker 11: of a sudden, So I think Ashton Genty makes the
Speaker 11: most sense.
Speaker 2: I've said this.
Speaker 11: They need touchdown scorers, Jeff. They have to have touchdown scores.
Speaker 11: You know you lost Christian Kirk. You don't have Evan
Speaker 11: Ingram anymore. You don't have the production guaranteed from ETN.
Speaker 11: I think genty makes a whole lot of sense, and
Speaker 11: I like him a lot. If you want to go up, great,
Speaker 11: If you want to go back, fine, But I like
Speaker 11: genty at five.
Speaker 4: All right, Brian, it's hard arguing entertainment here.
Speaker 2: Listen, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 11: If you want me to find more entertainment for you,
Speaker 11: I'll find it.
Speaker 3: It sounds like people are having a really good time
Speaker 3: there in Green Bay.
Speaker 4: Have a great night.
Speaker 2: It's about to get spicy here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We'll look forward to your reporting throughout the evening. We'll
Speaker 3: see you back here when you get home. Brian Sexton
Speaker 3: jus from Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 8: Boy, what a scene there.
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Speaker 4: Today.
Speaker 3: We're on ten Toinexcel, Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube, and
Speaker 3: it's Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 4: And as is tradition, on Draft Day, you catch up.
Speaker 3: With the general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars, this time
Speaker 3: first year general manager James Gladstone in the draft room.
Speaker 5: About an hour ago.
Speaker 3: JP Shadwick in the draft room with GM James Gladstone,
Speaker 3: first draft as a general manager. What are your feelings?
Speaker 3: Is there anxiety, nerves? How you're feeling just with only
Speaker 3: a couple hours to go?
Speaker 10: You know, I gotta say, with all the work that's
Speaker 10: been done to date, all the collaboration across our coaching
Speaker 10: staff and scouting staff feel firm and our plan heading
Speaker 10: into tonight, And I got to say it hasn't felt,
Speaker 10: in terms of sensation, all that much different than any
Speaker 10: draft previously. You know, you got every thing sort of
Speaker 10: in the hopper and feel like you just fall back
Speaker 10: on what you had planned for and go from there.
Speaker 10: So we're looking forward to what unfold. But obviously it
Speaker 10: won't take long for us to be on the clock
Speaker 10: and we're looking forward to press and send there and
Speaker 10: making the call.
Speaker 3: Take us through your day so far, from the wake
Speaker 3: up to the morning prep to get to this.
Speaker 10: Point, you know, it's been low key, It hasn't It
Speaker 10: hasn't been all that different from my normal routine. Woke
Speaker 10: up at the same time, got here at the facility
Speaker 10: fairly early, and headed out to the field for a
Speaker 10: few laps before taking some calls to just tie up
Speaker 10: a few loose ends, and have since been just chewing
Speaker 10: on the same thoughts that have seemingly been circling for
Speaker 10: quite a few few weeks.
Speaker 8: Now, what's on your final checklist? Now?
Speaker 3: What do you lean on when the clock starts? And
Speaker 3: take us a little bit if you can through your
Speaker 3: process when time is of the essence.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, this first pick is going to be
Speaker 10: a little different than the next next nine. Obviously, we
Speaker 10: some version of a controlled environment, knowing that there's only
Speaker 10: four selections ahead of us, and beyond that, I think
Speaker 10: what we'll lean into is a lot of the same
Speaker 10: things that I think we've preached over the last eight weeks,
Speaker 10: and really that's about focusing on players who are intangibly rich,
Speaker 10: and so that'll be top of mind at each pickpoint,
Speaker 10: and really the decisions that we'll make with each of
Speaker 10: the nine picks that lie beyond tonight, we'll be sure
Speaker 10: to lean into that and keep that as our north star.
Speaker 8: We all see rumors.
Speaker 3: Do you follow the TV coverage of draft and all
Speaker 3: the rumors Draft Day things that may or may not happen,
Speaker 3: And how busy has.
Speaker 8: It been on the phones with the Jaguars.
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I think I've got a pulse for what
Speaker 10: has seemingly been pushed out, which seems like every single
Speaker 10: scenario on planet Earth, which is exciting, entertaining. I mean,
Speaker 10: that's the business that we're in, and I think at
Speaker 10: pick number five we'll see some fireworks.
Speaker 5: One way or another.
Speaker 8: James, you luck to you appreciate the time.
Speaker 10: I appreciate it as well.
Speaker 3: Game on, game on logs, James Gladstone, the general manager
Speaker 3: could see some fireworks one way or another.
Speaker 4: That's what you like to hear.
Speaker 7: That's that killer mentality that Tony Boselli was talking about
Speaker 7: here a little bit ago. You know, I love listening
Speaker 7: to him talk very seamless. I mean, he should have
Speaker 7: considered a job in broadcasting, right. I mean, he's just something.
Speaker 7: He's quick on his feet, he's very direct and doesn't
Speaker 7: have any kind of a catchword to kind of gather
Speaker 7: a thought. I mean, he's just impressed. And look, part
Speaker 7: of being a leader also is being a great communicator,
Speaker 7: and and Tony's dead on the money about that aspect
Speaker 7: of him. It's fun to watch.
Speaker 3: There is a fascinating article in The Athletic that just
Speaker 3: came out recently about his rise through the RAMS organization
Speaker 3: and now his step forward as a general manager and
Speaker 3: some of the processes he's used to get.
Speaker 8: To this point.
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was trying to get out
Speaker 3: of there a little bit was some of the behind
Speaker 3: the scenes data things that he'll use now in the
Speaker 3: past year, we've seen a draft room with you know,
Speaker 3: thirty people in there and ringing the room and all that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we'll have that this year with
Speaker 3: James and he'll have access to people close by, it's
Speaker 3: going to be a select few that are actually right there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it kind of focuses the room. I
Speaker 7: think in a lot of different ways. I would probably
Speaker 7: do something somewhere if I were ever in James's shoes,
Speaker 7: just because you don't want to have a whole lot
Speaker 7: of things that are moving parts, etc. But everything he's
Speaker 7: done to date has been very impressive so far. But
Speaker 7: this day, today is the start of the lifeblood of
Speaker 7: this franchise. The reality is is that the organization has
Speaker 7: not drafted very well in the past, and that's a fact,
Speaker 7: and the fact is shown in the record that this
Speaker 7: team has had and that needs to change. And how
Speaker 7: it changes is that you bring better players into the organization.
Speaker 7: James Gladstone is the key to this whole thing. He
Speaker 7: lives the key to this whole success of this organization
Speaker 7: going forward, and it starts today with him. It started
Speaker 7: in free agency a little bit, but this is the meat,
Speaker 7: and this is the potatoes of any organization today, tomorrow
Speaker 7: and the next day.
Speaker 3: It's pretty fascinating that you come in as a new GM,
Speaker 3: but you inherit the scouting staff you don't bring. There's
Speaker 3: been a couple of additions, right. The big change addition
Speaker 3: a lot of times happens after the draft. So he's
Speaker 3: inherited scouting staff and personnel staff and has from all accounts,
Speaker 3: enjoyed that process. They've done a good job in figuring
Speaker 3: out how he wants to communicate and work. And that's
Speaker 3: got to be a difficult transition. I mean, you come
Speaker 3: in and all of a sudden the staff's already in place.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, just I mean for me personally, I
Speaker 7: would probably have a very difficult kind of time of
Speaker 7: trusting people, right, I mean, because look, there's a lot
Speaker 7: of holdovers from the Trent Ball general manager era. And
Speaker 7: you know, from what I understand, James has been very
Speaker 7: open and honest and has worked with everybody and that's
Speaker 7: that's amazing. But I'm sure, just like anybody else would
Speaker 7: do that, there will be changes within the staff in
Speaker 7: and around James Gladstone's room, and as it should be,
Speaker 7: because as a general manager, you want to make sure
Speaker 7: that you have voices that you trust and also ears
Speaker 7: that you can trust.
Speaker 3: Tonight, it's the first round of the twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: NFL Drafts at eight o'clock start time, and we will
Speaker 3: come back in this moment. We'll have John Oser, Jaguars
Speaker 3: dot Com senior writer. He'll join us on set and
Speaker 3: we're gonna make some picks.
Speaker 7: We kind of already have logs, haven't we.
Speaker 4: We kind of have I'm sticking with my Okay, well,
Speaker 4: well don't ruin it now. We'll come back if you've.
Speaker 7: Just joined us logs.
Speaker 3: Is gonna make another pick, but it's probably the same pick.
Speaker 4: That is this Jaguars happy.
Speaker 9: Hour anytime somebody's excelling on the level the highest level
Speaker 9: in the football league, for sure. But I also think
Speaker 9: we can't overlook, you know, also guys in you know,
Speaker 9: college football doing amazing things. Also in the NFL, there's
Speaker 9: a lot of other greer running backs. Now, is he
Speaker 9: the number one guy leading that?
Speaker 8: For sure? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That is Ashton Gent, the running back from Boise State
Speaker 3: and the Heisman Trophy runner up last year, only a
Speaker 3: little over two hundred points behind Travis Hunter and the
Speaker 3: Heisman voting massive season a year ago, five foot eight
Speaker 3: to eleven, tough to tackle. We'll see if he's there
Speaker 3: at five, if he's the picker or not. JP, Shadwick,
Speaker 3: Jeff Logan, John Osier joining us in the studio.
Speaker 12: Now, Hi, John, I like the dramatic pause there. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 12: when you're bringing me in said, uh, it's draft night.
Speaker 12: I mean it's it's Uh, We've been through a lot
Speaker 12: of these, and I think it's James Gladstone said a
Speaker 12: couple of weeks ago. Uh, when you're picking number five
Speaker 12: and it's the first pick of a new regime, Uh,
Speaker 12: it's a tone center. So this is a big night.
Speaker 12: And I think over all, Jeff, it's a big weekend
Speaker 12: for me to see sort of what a James Gladstone
Speaker 12: draft looks like. He does things differently. I'm curiously what
Speaker 12: this looks like by the end of Saturday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think all three days are really tone setters.
Speaker 7: I mean, look, you're you're adding ten. You know that's
Speaker 7: the number you're at now, you know, prospects to your roster.
Speaker 7: And by the way, JP, you kind of short changed
Speaker 7: Jenny a little bit. Was a five, nine, two fifteen,
Speaker 7: you know, and when you're five foot nine, okay, and
Speaker 7: you get called to be five foot eight that that that.
Speaker 8: First five and a half.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's he's five five foot eight and a half. Oh,
Speaker 7: you're rounding up.
Speaker 3: Okay, but a round up okay's not a round up
Speaker 3: first okay.
Speaker 7: But I will say just real quick about Jenny watching
Speaker 7: the film with a guy, it's amazing to watch him
Speaker 7: and how powerful he is. And the one area that
Speaker 7: the Jacksonville Jaguars have great history with is the running
Speaker 7: back position. Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones, Drew And how fitting
Speaker 7: would it be to have a guy like Jenny to
Speaker 7: follow up from those two.
Speaker 3: Well, if it's at five, he's going to be at
Speaker 3: that level, right to be a successful pick.
Speaker 12: John, Yeah, it's making a mistake if you take a
Speaker 12: running back at five. I said, I called this morning.
Speaker 12: I called Leonard Frend you know, a mistake pick. And
Speaker 12: I like Leonard. But when you take a guy four
Speaker 12: and he's not a franchised, defining guy, all pro guy
Speaker 12: at that position, then it didn't work. So if you're
Speaker 12: going to take that position that high, really any position
Speaker 12: that I five, but especially running back, when you're going
Speaker 12: there and saying okay, it's maybe a five or six
Speaker 12: seven year peak person. It's got to be Derrick, Henry Saquon.
Speaker 2: Barkley level production.
Speaker 12: Ap that's what you're expecting. So that's you know, whether
Speaker 12: they say it or not tonight, if you take a
Speaker 12: running back in five, that's what you're thinking is gonna be.
Speaker 7: The position has been devalued, I mean over the years,
Speaker 7: and people are saying, well, how can you can't use
Speaker 7: high draft capital anymore to draft a running back? But
Speaker 7: if you listen to Liam Cohene talking about helping Trevor out,
Speaker 7: what's the one thing that he's talked about all off season?
Speaker 7: Getting a running game and better up front around them?
Speaker 7: And look, I want to get a better running game.
Speaker 7: Bam Jenny.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 7: Number two gives you an instant running game. I don't
Speaker 7: think there's any doubt on that.
Speaker 12: And the position has been devalued, and that's a big theme.
Speaker 12: It's always a big pre pre draft theme. Now hall
Speaker 12: of famers haven't been devalued, so you're thinking, and I
Speaker 12: say hall of famers, I mean with Derek Henry, the
Speaker 12: guys we just mentioned, Henry Saquon Barkley, those are Hall
Speaker 12: of Fame level talent. Fred Taylor Hall of Fame level talent.
Speaker 12: That level of talent at that position hasn't been the value,
Speaker 12: So that would be the counter argument to the devalued position.
Speaker 7: Well, and it's kind of interesting to see all of
Speaker 7: the draft talk kind of over the last six weeks
Speaker 7: and where it's been with Jenny. I mean, there were
Speaker 7: so many different people that were forecasting him going to
Speaker 7: Chicago and then all of a sudden here recently now
Speaker 7: some people are picking that he may come here to
Speaker 7: the Jacksonville Jaguars. And it's interesting too because if you
Speaker 7: look at what is in what's the common theme with
Speaker 7: Chicago and the Jaguars. They have a very young quarterback
Speaker 7: that really hasn't shown that he's going to be an
Speaker 7: elite player yet, and so both teams may be looking
Speaker 7: to get a running back to help out these young quarterbacks,
Speaker 7: and he's a really good one. I said this to
Speaker 7: you JP and Brian Sexton, I think last week, and
Speaker 7: I said that, you know, there's three great players in
Speaker 7: this draft, and I'm just talking just from watching film
Speaker 7: that are head and shoulders above everybody. They are, and
Speaker 7: that's Jenny, Travis Hunter, and Abdul Carter. Those three guys
Speaker 7: are just ridiculously at high levels. I mean, they're so
Speaker 7: separate from everybody else and at the top, and I
Speaker 7: don't cam Ward's not even in that category, not even close.
Speaker 7: But those three guys I think are just And the
Speaker 7: future may say that there's more than just those three,
Speaker 7: and maybe even not one of those three, but I
Speaker 7: think right now, in my opinion watching the film, those
Speaker 7: three guys are it.
Speaker 12: And when people ask to a people, when is it
Speaker 12: okay to take it back in the top five, it's
Speaker 12: when what Jeff said is true. Meaning if that back
Speaker 12: is one of three great players in the draft, and
Speaker 12: there's another quarterback in there and maybe some team things
Speaker 12: offensive lineman, that's the scenario where it's okay because any
Speaker 12: GM you know, why did the Eagles win the Super
Speaker 12: Bowl at year because they had a bunch of players
Speaker 12: who were really really really good. How many really really
Speaker 12: really good players the Jaguars have right now, BTJ and
Speaker 12: a couple you know, So if you're adding that to
Speaker 12: your group, then nets when top five running back makes sense?
Speaker 3: John Ozier with us it is Jaguars happy hour, JP
Speaker 3: Shatter because Jeff Loghman just a few minutes to go here.
Speaker 3: This is the latest that we've been to an NFL
Speaker 3: draft where every team has their original pick in the draft.
Speaker 3: I think it was ninety three when the Chiefs and
Speaker 3: the Niners made the deal for Joe Montana and traded
Speaker 3: picks and such just a few days before the draft.
Speaker 3: That was previously the latest it had gone. But all
Speaker 3: even the years before this draft, everybody still has their picks.
Speaker 3: It's an oddity. We'll see how long it lasts. I
Speaker 3: guess tonight it feels like, you know, with with the
Speaker 3: top four kind of there, the Jaguars might be that
Speaker 3: fulcrum point in this first round tonight.
Speaker 12: Well, it's good that you said the thing about the
Speaker 12: trades now, because I think by eight forty five or so, yeah, oh,
Speaker 12: it's gonna be. I think it'll be a lot of
Speaker 12: trades once it starts. I think you got a little
Speaker 12: momentum Jeff of Okay, Well, once teams hadn't traded by
Speaker 12: a couple of weeks ago, then you wait and see
Speaker 12: what Tennessee does, and then other teams can start talking
Speaker 12: about it. My guess is there's been a lot of
Speaker 12: calls around the league where the button's ready to be pushed.
Speaker 12: As soon as you're on the clock, So I think
Speaker 12: that would change.
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of groundwork probably already been done. But
Speaker 7: John's right. I think once once cam Ward goes number
Speaker 7: one to Tennessee, then I think then the phones are
Speaker 7: going to start ringing after the top five happened, because
Speaker 7: the next two quarterbacks, which is obviously going to be
Speaker 7: a big part of that conversation about who trades and
Speaker 7: who doesn't. Where those guys end up fitting. I think
Speaker 7: it's gonna be very interesting because you know, for a
Speaker 7: long time people just thought that the trade was going
Speaker 7: to be mainly around the Sheder Sanders. But Jackson Dart
Speaker 7: is now in the conversation as to moving up into
Speaker 7: the top half of the first round, which could make
Speaker 7: that even more interesting.
Speaker 12: Quarterbacks always figured out a way to get up there.
Speaker 4: It's fascinating how that works.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all the media we've been seeing the
Speaker 3: last couple of days is on Jackson dark But I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that boards have had him up
Speaker 3: there all the whole time, Like they don't change their boards.
Speaker 8: Just leave the process.
Speaker 12: That's a huge isnamic in the draft too, is the
Speaker 12: media sort of hops into this on an increasing level
Speaker 12: after about the combine. So a lot of players whose
Speaker 12: stock is rising, it's because a GM finally told somebody
Speaker 12: in the media, hey, this guy's pretty good too. Oh
Speaker 12: now his stock's rising exactly. And I think that's what
Speaker 12: happened with Genti. Frankly, I think I think a lot
Speaker 12: of NFL people knew that this kid was special. Everybody
Speaker 12: assumed the back wouldn't get taken that high. So then
Speaker 12: once it starts sort of flushing itself out, everybody realized, oh,
Speaker 12: there's only three guys, this guy should be up there.
Speaker 12: Some of that's finding out the information later.
Speaker 7: And the other thing I think is going to be
Speaker 7: fun to watch tonight, aside from the top of the
Speaker 7: draft and the quarterbacks and Jenny and what the Jaguars do.
Speaker 7: For me, just an interesting standpoint. This football team here
Speaker 7: in Jacksonville's offensive lineman. Okay, so what happens in the
Speaker 7: first round with all of these tackles that are there's
Speaker 7: a lot of them that have a first round grade,
Speaker 7: And so I'm going to be watching this first round
Speaker 7: with an eye on what can the Jaguars do in
Speaker 7: round two and who goes undrafted in Round one to
Speaker 7: give this football team options at a position of need,
Speaker 7: which is offensive line.
Speaker 3: You always say it, You've been saying it for months.
Speaker 3: If you're going to rebuild the offensive line, you better
Speaker 3: start drafting offensive lineman high.
Speaker 12: Yeah, And I think that's the dilemma when you're talking
Speaker 12: about Jenny or you're talking about offensive skill player high.
Speaker 12: I do believe that at some point point the Eagles,
Speaker 12: right all those years where they invested in it and
Speaker 12: it's not a sexy pick and your fans kind of go, Okay, well,
Speaker 12: it's fine, But at some point you have to sacrifice
Speaker 12: some next day pop to get that on one side
Speaker 12: of the ball or the other. If you're going to
Speaker 12: be a line centric team, you have start taking them early.
Speaker 12: But I don't think. I don't think they're gonna be
Speaker 12: a line centric tonight.
Speaker 7: And I would add one thing here that you made
Speaker 7: about the Eagles, right. The Eagles have drafted so well
Speaker 7: over the years, and that's the key of this whole thing.
Speaker 7: You've got to be able to stack good draft after
Speaker 7: good draft after good draft. I'm talking consistently good drafts
Speaker 7: to build a franchise. If you can do that, then
Speaker 7: you can be where the Eagles are you know? And look,
Speaker 7: they're winning super Bowls without a truly truly elite quarterback.
Speaker 7: I think of Passer now, he's got his great traits
Speaker 7: and special characteristics in his own right. Yes, But the talent,
Speaker 7: the overall talent of that Eagles team is what has
Speaker 7: carried that football team to where they are today. And
Speaker 7: you hope that James Gladstone leaves this team in that
Speaker 7: direction going forward.
Speaker 12: In James, you trust, right, j Yes, yes we do.
Speaker 3: And that begins tonight final couple of minutes here, guys.
Speaker 4: So John, let's let's.
Speaker 2: Get your pick.
Speaker 4: If the Jags are at five, what are they like?
Speaker 12: Look, I think there's guys out of their reach at
Speaker 12: five that they love. I think Carter and Hunter, who
Speaker 12: I don't think will be there at five. If they
Speaker 12: could get those guys, boy, I think they love them.
Speaker 12: I don't know if it's going to be too expensive.
Speaker 12: There's reports out there about all kinds of different things.
Speaker 12: The expense to move up I just wonder about. So
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go genty if they stick at five.
Speaker 3: Blogs, Oh goodness, we went through this earlier.
Speaker 2: We know what you want.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wanted to trade up to get trash but
Speaker 7: if they're.
Speaker 2: At five, a lot of things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 7: Look, I love Jenny, like I said, I think he's
Speaker 7: one of the three elite players in this draft, and
Speaker 7: I think that you can't go wrong there. But I
Speaker 7: will say this, Mason Graham, Banks, the tackle out of Texas.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of great players in this draft, and
Speaker 7: I think that it's gonna be hard to mess this
Speaker 7: fifth overall pickup.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a long scenic route to
Speaker 3: a pick, said Jenny.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, but look, I like again, I like Mason Graham,
Speaker 7: I like Banks the tackle from Texas, and those two,
Speaker 7: all three of those guys are worthy at five. But
Speaker 7: the truly elite player again, like I said, Hunter Carter
Speaker 7: and then of course Jenny, those three are the elites.
Speaker 8: In this dram.
Speaker 3: See what happens ahead of the Jaguars tonight. It's at
Speaker 3: eight o'clock start time. We're going to have pre draft coverage.
Speaker 3: Apprecio is at seven point thirty. It's at Jaguars dot com.
Speaker 3: All the Jaguars social media channels, including Facebook and x
Speaker 3: Tonight will also be on Jaguars YouTube this evening, so
Speaker 3: check that out. Seven point thirty for some final thoughts
Speaker 3: leading into the NFL Draft, And we'll also have Bucky
Speaker 3: Brooks on that show coming up tonight as well. John,
Speaker 3: You're gonna have writing all night and all weekend long.
Speaker 12: That's what I'm told. It will be on the website,
Speaker 12: free website.
Speaker 4: Free website, Jaguars dot com. Check it out, logs. You're
Speaker 4: gonna be with us all weekend? What's the story or
Speaker 4: just tonight?
Speaker 7: I think tonight? Okay, tonight today? Yeah, I'm gonna bounce
Speaker 7: around a little bit tonight.
Speaker 4: Okay, love that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got radio tonight, right, yeah.
Speaker 7: Radio tonight, and I think it's pop on Martin now
Speaker 7: a little bit. Maybe even with you, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, love all that. We'll see Jack of all trades.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna try, you know again film. I've been watching
Speaker 7: film for months of these guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so use your analysis.
Speaker 7: Look, I'm looking forward to this strap just because you know,
Speaker 7: when you when you spend time watching these guys, you
Speaker 7: really want to kind of see what your thoughts kind
Speaker 7: of how they compare to the other, the true professionals.
Speaker 7: You understood just a Draftnick, that's all.
Speaker 8: That's it.
Speaker 3: You're a whole lot more than that. Logs, you're a
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