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Speaker 2: or two of the program. Jacked up to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Final seconds ticking away here on a beautiful close out

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Speaker 2: on a Christmas Day slate of the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas wherever however you're celebrating. Thanks for hanging out

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Speaker 2: with me and the stinking genius himself. We got his

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Speaker 2: origin story before he became a supervillain.

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Speaker 3: Someone on Twitter just sent me a tweet that said,

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Speaker 3: you expect us to buy that fake story how you

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Speaker 3: got started in Vegas?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what did they expect you to do? You can't

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Speaker 2: put all those lurid details out there and that fleabag

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Speaker 2: motel you ended up with with the People of the

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Speaker 2: Night Creatures of the Night. Taken straight from the Rocky

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Speaker 2: Horror Picture Show if.

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Speaker 3: I were, can you imagine trying to break in the

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Speaker 3: business now or you hey, could you just put me

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Speaker 3: on the air? Come on, man, that happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about.

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Speaker 3: Like that? That was our No, crazy, No.

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely how it happens a lot here. Or you

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Speaker 2: figure out a way into a building and you immediately

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Speaker 2: think you can have a microphone, and sometimes you can.

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Speaker 3: One of the guys, another guy they hired was the

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Speaker 3: Eye in the Sky in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: He was security and he looked at the cameras to

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Speaker 2: That was That's an important job though. Man, it was

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Speaker 2: a very huge job, no question about it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: want to know how many guys. As this game concludes,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty thirteen is your final. The Broncos with another

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Speaker 2: close out opportunity here in the fourth quarter, the AFC

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Speaker 2: mirror image of what the Bears have done in dramatic

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Speaker 2: fashion time and time again. Bo Nick's here with that

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Speaker 2: RJ Harvey. That's good for my fantasy team, not that

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Speaker 2: you care. But Travis Kelcey in the middle of the field,

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Speaker 2: I'm questioning how many players have walked up? Can I

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Speaker 3: I want to sell it later on.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's just it. I mean, that's like having a

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Speaker 3: But you don't think he's going to call it quits

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Speaker 2: This, let's talk about this a little bit, shall we

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Speaker 2: Five catches thirty six yards today, he finishes short. I

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Speaker 2: receiving yardage. You think he needed eighty for this game,

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Speaker 2: and they're now giving you a shot at Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: I didn't sit and count, and I think that kind

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Speaker 2: those particular games. But overall, when we look at where

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Speaker 2: Like that's the one thing coming into this year. They

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Speaker 2: for another run. Duct tape and bandages. You lost some

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Speaker 2: So you really never get a full run of this

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Speaker 2: So all of that to say, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: What he does forget about being better than him. Mike,

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Speaker 2: Then look at you getting into a man's wallet.

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Speaker 3: Well I know that, but the only question is, Mike,

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Speaker 3: certainly not because or if you're gonna come back until

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Speaker 2: But that's just it, right, Everybody asked motivations. Hell, you

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Speaker 2: that maybe even to believe? But and being with my team, right,

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Speaker 2: it's just the idea of For for Travis Kelsey, what's

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Speaker 2: But he also Yeah, but there's also Arnie the idea

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Speaker 3: Or maybe he still likes the game day routine, that's

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Speaker 2: I've celebrated the hell out of Philip Rivers for a

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Speaker 3: Also, what is he going to do? I mean, if

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Speaker 2: Or she's not going back on the road for a while.

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Speaker 3: So what does she do now? Then she just takes

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Speaker 3: The guys she worked, but for all the guys she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's got a lot to go. Look, he's

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Speaker 3: sure he doesn't want to play till he's like forty

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Speaker 3: Like I said, he's got a whole life. He's got

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Speaker 2: But it's like the Brady Brady situation when everybody kept

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Speaker 2: on with he and Giselle Bunchin. I know she announced

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Speaker 2: really great games for Fox of late. He's been fantastic

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Speaker 2: I'm impressed with where you're going. And he was jacked

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Speaker 2: we want rip the jerseys off. You talked about it

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Speaker 2: last hour. Where's the quarterback play? Right? Right? Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: they got drummed by San Francisco. He wasn't the problem.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, he was.

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Speaker 2: If he could play defense and again could backpedal, he

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Speaker 3: So it shouldn't get to a point where a forty

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting that you said an invest I

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Speaker 3: argue with this with Chris pink on Somenday nights all

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Speaker 3: on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Thursday, some games on Saturday. You're

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Speaker 3: have to plan. And this is where we argue on

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Speaker 3: he's gonna need off, he's hurt, he's banged up. There's

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Speaker 3: notice that you could win with me at quarterback. You

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Speaker 3: just have to go ahead now and make sure you

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we talked about it for as long

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Speaker 2: something disastrous, we're getting send homes. Well, but I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 3: Went right when Brady went down, the Patriots still went

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Speaker 2: So they still had a team, right, a team you

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Speaker 2: I'd love to see him come back again. Retirement is long,

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Speaker 3: I think he's good for the NFL, and I think

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Speaker 2: Man, woman child? Everybody need everybody needs somebody. That's the

437
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: Blues Brothers see leaving no pop culture stone unturned. Minnesota

438
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: with a five point lead on the Nuggets here midway

439
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: through the second quarter, we'll get to the Nicola Jokic

440
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 2: laugher from his entry, you know, because it's a fashion

441
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,199
Speaker 2: runway show when guys show up to arenas anymore or

442
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,959
Speaker 2: Stadia as it were. We'll get to Steve Kerr as well.

443
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 2: But earlier today the Detroit Lions were taken down by

444
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 2: Max Brosmer and the Minnesota Vikings. Another wonderful offensive explosion

445
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: kind of game, unless it wasn't twenty three ten your

446
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: final again. Jamiir Gibbs with his seventeen for forty one

447
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 2: on the ground, two catches, twenty three yards and a

448
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: lost fumble in the Fantasy Finals. Jared Goff, also contributing

449
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: his own with five turnovers, did throw a touchdown pass

450
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 2: and had one hundred and ninety seven yards Yay, but

451
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: they lose to Brozemer and company. Addison with the sixty

452
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: five yard sprint and the great dive to the end zone.

453
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones might have come through for you in the

454
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 2: Fantasy playoffs with his fifty three yards and a score.

455
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: I see Brianna pumping the fist as we all try

456
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: to fight through and win whatever prize is, even if

457
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 2: it's just a feeling good about ourselves, all about straight

458
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 2: cash for some Justin Jefferson four catches thirty yards. He

459
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: had a nice pregame Merry Christmas interview, but once once

460
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 2: again a bystander in a passing attack nine of sixteen

461
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: fifty one yards. For you, there aren't he seven sacks taken? Yeah,

462
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: it was not a clinic of phenomenh.

463
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 3: Detroit's got to make a whole rebound. You want to

464
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: talk about a rebuilt first thing you're gonna have to

465
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Speaker 3: do before I even decide whether you want to bring

466
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 3: golf back or not, and you probably do, because quarterbacks

467
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: just don't grow on trees. I've brought this up to plank. Also,

468
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: you're no longer going to have to have the luxury

469
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: of a two running back system with Montgomery Montgomery and

470
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: Jamior Gibbs. You just can't have both of them. They're

471
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: gonna take out too much, especially with all the money

472
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Speaker 3: that you spent with the wide receivers and some of

473
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: the defensive guys you've given money too. So one of

474
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: them's got to go. You can't have both of them

475
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: because they're gonna both end the demanding big money, and

476
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: they both deserve big money. To be honest, I think

477
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: one of them designed to decide their contract. But you've

478
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: got to go ahead and make sure it's a one

479
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 3: back offense. You start there, two you've you did have

480
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: a lot of injuries. I don't want that to be

481
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: that excuse. But I'm not so sure Goff is really

482
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: long for the Lions. I may have to make a

483
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: move and go in a different direction, especially with all

484
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: these veteran quarterbacks out there, like Murray, like Lamar Jackson,

485
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: like Tua or all those an upgrade. Only Lion fans

486
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: could tell on that, But I may have to make

487
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: a move that way also if it works out that

488
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: like that.

489
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Speaker 2: Even when he was performing at his best, there's still

490
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: some that kept Jared Goff at an arms distance arm's length,

491
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: as it were. He's got one more year on his

492
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: deal before he becomes an unrestricted free.

493
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Speaker 3: What about the three I just gave you? Would you

494
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: use any of those? Well, of course you'd use Lamar

495
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: Jackson over golf, at least I think you would.

496
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: Sure, But it becomes what Murray over golf? No? Well,

497
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 2: I guess it also becomes a question of what are

498
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: you doing with your quarterator? Look to to his.

499
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: Remember Sam Darnold didn't look good on the Jets, but

500
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: once he got off a bad team, it's a whole

501
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: nother story.

502
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 2: Several times removed chances. Right, the Carolina Panthers had both

503
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: him and Baker Mayfield and they're both gone.

504
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: Right, But like a good quarterback. Also, don't be so

505
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: sure that you know these guys are like or not

506
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: good quarterbacks. They've had bad experiences.

507
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: But you brought up the Jets. That's six degrees of separation.

508
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: It took a lot of distance, uh, to get away

509
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: from that Geno Smith took a lot of distance. It

510
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: wasn't just a hey, they went to the next spot

511
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: and excelled.

512
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: Right.

513
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean to get multiple jobs, doesn't mean that

514
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: you can't.

515
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: So did you think Tua and Murray are not going

516
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: to excel where they go to next?

517
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: I think I think we may have seen the best

518
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: of Kyler Murray, particularly now that you had like injuries.

519
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: I did disagree with that.

520
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: Well, if you're gonna take away the turbo button that

521
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: you've used so far and you still have problems in

522
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: the red zone passing, look at look at Trey McBride.

523
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: How much better a receiver he is statistically and in

524
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: red zone and tight situations with Jacoby Brisset over Kyler Murray,

525
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: now which I can Kyler Murray apologist, right, I love

526
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: watching the guy play, but he didn't see.

527
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of Lamar Jackson is

528
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: what his two time MVP.

529
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: That's that's what he did for me in the past. Well,

530
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: I might sell me a couple of though. But if

531
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: we're now concerned about and take whatever you will from

532
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: the the Baltimore Sun article right, which is out there,

533
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: play don't get out video games late night. They got

534
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: to change up schedules whatever. John Harbaugh tried to quickly

535
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: dismiss those, and and again it becomes the all right

536
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: thing with the guy in the place and anonymous sources

537
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: and whatever else.

538
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: I believe the story, by the way, I do believe.

539
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: But everybody was quick to believe that Kyler Murray didn't

540
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: do any work Lamar jacks at right. But I'm not

541
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: saying that two are mutually exclusive, just saying that some

542
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: are quick to dismiss this one. And again, Lamar Jackson

543
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: has been fantastic. I take nothing away from what he's done.

544
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: But on the same vein with Kyler Murray is the

545
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: element of his game where he extended and made plays

546
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: with his legs. Is that when is that diminish? Because

547
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: remember they've also both been in the league a minute now.

548
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: Right now, it's not like a fifteen year because now

549
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: we're normalizing these long careers and that's still that's still

550
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: not not it for me. Like if I get eight

551
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: years of a guy at peak condition, I think I've won.

552
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, but to you know, when you have out a

553
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: quarterback that doesn't use his legs and every time he

554
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: gets hey, you're holding your breath for concussions.

555
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: Well, but that's what I said. He's not even a

556
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: consideration for me.

557
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: He can commit as a backup. Let me tell you

558
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: some no, no, he first of all two is not

559
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: going to another team as a backup. So that could stop.

560
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: You could stop with that right now too. He could

561
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Speaker 3: be a prayer.

562
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: I was doing the talking of as a guy if

563
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: I'm running a team. That was the premise here, right

564
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: The premise was if I was running the team, who

565
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: do I want? And I'm telling you he would be

566
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: my backup as a break glass in case of emergency.

567
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, the head be a pretty good

568
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: quarterback if he went to the right system to the right.

569
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Speaker 5: He was supposed to be in the right system. Well,

570
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 5: oh well, what what you know? He had some pretty

571
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 5: good stats when they went to the playoffs.

572
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: When was that?

573
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dolphins didn't have a good record when Toua

574
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: was not starting. You understand that, don't you.

575
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: That's fine. That means that they did not have a

576
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: backup quarterback ready to play. I mean then, and you

577
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: can blame whatever you want on Tyreek Hill being gone.

578
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: In theory, Mike McDaniel was supposed to be a wizard

579
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: and Tua was supposed to be you know, his next up.

580
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: He was supposed to be the Cynthia Arrivo learning at

581
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: the feet of whatever her name is, the Wicked, the

582
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: the head head of the witches that wants her to

583
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: get over madam. Yeah, I can't save im. Sorry, I

584
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: figured you're a big Wicked fan. I'm just kind of

585
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: going down.

586
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: That I tell you about wicked Witch Glenda or something.

587
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: But whoever, Michelle Yo plays how about that? But just

588
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: that idea of for Tua, it's about timing. It's and

589
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: at times it works. But if I need him to

590
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: drive a football through a wind, if I need him

591
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: to make a big throw in a big spot. We

592
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: haven't seen it.

593
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: But it's still better than a lot of these backup

594
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that we saw.

595
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: But again, now see you just put the turn back upon.

596
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what. Okay, that's fine. But I still

597
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: think he's like a B minus quarterback. I still think

598
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: he's a starter in the NFL. I still think he's

599
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: more than just serviceable, and the team can go to

600
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs with him and maybe even further. Who knows.

601
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: It's just that's not gonna happen in Miami anymore, Mike.

602
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: It's just the grass is greener somewhere else.

603
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: I like that he's your guy, and that you're standing

604
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: for your guy even as you're kicking him out the door.

605
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, I like the way.

606
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: You're playing on the fence there.

607
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's you know, it's like breaking up with

608
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: your girlfriend, you know, want to being bad that in here,

609
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Go date somebody else. I'm gonna date somebody else, do

610
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: and good luck to you. She's a very nice girl

611
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: going that fun, very nice girl.

612
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: You really went down a weird path right there. That

613
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: was worse than me trying to figure out what Michelle

614
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: Yo's name was. Nick again, not that I thought you would.

615
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: It's Madam Morrible Morrible. That was the because I started

616
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: drifting down Morbius in my head and I'm like, I

617
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: know that's not right. That was that other Marvel movie

618
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: that kind of came and went pretty fast.

619
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: With Glad you aren't waiting on me for that answer.

620
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: That's well, you know what we got to learn up. Yeah, meanwhile,

621
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: you got your Lumberjack shirt on. You're waiting for your

622
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: Hallmark moment. We'll do Steve Kerr and his apology that

623
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: we should all cut in print coming up in a

624
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: few minutes here, but first we'll send it over to

625
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Brianna Mirro with what's happening in our sporting universe? Brianna,

626
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: did you win your fantasy game? Or are you on

627
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: your on your way to it?

628
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 6: So it's the Yeah, So championship wise, I had two

629
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 6: players play today. I know everybody's super interested on that,

630
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 6: Aaron Jones and Jamison Williams. Okay, so I am currently

631
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 6: up to twenty nine points compared to my opponent, who's

632
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 6: actually a guy i've notes in second grade. So that's

633
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 6: also a real really weird just sat there for you guys.

634
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 6: But I have a thirty eight percent chance of winning.

635
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 6: So that doesn't look too good.

636
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: You're saying there's a chance. Yeah, And as we've watched

637
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, Brianna, NFL's given us a

638
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: lot of twist and turns very true.

639
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 6: So anything is possible, just like anything is possible here

640
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 6: in Denver. The Nuggets are on top of the Timberwolves

641
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 6: fifty five fifty two a minute left to go in

642
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 6: the second quarter. Anthony Edwards did momentarily leave the game

643
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 6: due to a right shoulder injury, but he's back in

644
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 6: the game right now. The Rockets curbs on the Lakers one,

645
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 6: nineteen to ninety six, on Men Thompson to score twenty

646
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 6: six points. Kevin Durant and added twenty five to blocks

647
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 6: and nine assists in the win. The Warriors defeated the

648
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 6: Mavericks won twenty six to one sixteen, and in the NFL,

649
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 6: the Broncos defeated the Chiefs twenty to thirteen. Bo Nick's

650
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty two yards passing one touchdown and

651
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 6: one pick in the win. Denver is still in play

652
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 6: for the one seed in the AFS. The Vikings knocked

653
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Speaker 6: off the Lions twenty three to ten and the Cowboys

654
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Speaker 6: feeda the Commanders thirty to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, thanks so much, Brianna. As we

656
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: watched this game rolling along, Nikola Jokic gave us a

657
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: little bit of a laugh as he came to the

658
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Speaker 2: arena tonight, Arnie wearing I still haven't tried it, and

659
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: it was a picture of Kserito from Taco Bell. He

660
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: was also wearing a Taco Bell cardigan. Really now, I

661
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: gotta think there's an ad.

662
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

663
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Speaker 2: But famously, when he was drafted, there was a Taco

664
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Speaker 2: Bell ad running and his announcement of his draft position

665
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: was scrolled at the bottom of the ticker. Never got

666
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Speaker 2: a score, Yeah, well no, they did a giveaway last

667
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Speaker 2: week celebrating it. So there's a larger marketing plan that

668
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: seems to be rolling up here. But for Jokichen company,

669
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Speaker 2: coming down to the end of the first half tie

670
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Speaker 2: tie game with Minnesota, the end of a long day

671
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: of sporting activity, you're probably hitting these seconds on your pie,

672
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Speaker 2: grabbing another cup of coffee.

673
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Speaker 3: Or I just want you to know something. If people didn't,

674
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Speaker 3: you know, have the TV on or could look it

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00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: up on their phone, if we took like a thousand

676
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Speaker 3: calls and say, give me the two teams that are

677
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Speaker 3: playing in the NBA tonight. It would it would probably

678
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: take us a thousand calls to get a winner before

679
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Speaker 3: someone said, yeah, I think it's the Timberwolves and the

680
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: Nuggets playing that last game. Seriously, if you didn't have

681
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Speaker 3: it on TV and you couldn't look it up on

682
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Speaker 3: your phone, we would go forever before people would figure

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Speaker 3: out who was playing time.

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Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of teams you'd take

685
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Speaker 2: off the map right away that they're not going to

686
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Speaker 2: get a marquee call right right, just like Washington won't

687
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Speaker 2: get many of those. Next year. In the NFL, they

688
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: were over eight in standalone games.

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Speaker 3: This year they were bad. They were one of the

690
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Speaker 3: there's so many disupport these teams, like the Lions, like Baltimore.

691
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Speaker 2: So what do you want to do? You want to

692
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Speaker 2: do the airing of the grievances? Next, you want to

693
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Speaker 2: go to We'll kick Steve Kerr for twenty minutes and

694
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Speaker 2: we'll do the airing at the grievances like it's Festivus again.

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Speaker 3: Good. You want to get into Steve Kerr. I want

696
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Speaker 3: to get into that also go ahead, whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: Was right coming up next. As we continue here Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, I'm gonna put this ship and we're gonna

699
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Speaker 2: try to drive straight down the highway. Arnie's gonna want

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Speaker 2: to get off and get some snacks and some frosty

701
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Speaker 2: beverages and whatever. I'm gonna stiff arm him and we're

702
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: gonna get down this road. Airing. Get the grievances over

703
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: the course of the night. Chime in with those. We

704
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Speaker 2: got the overrated movies and things that you can sell

705
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: me on that maybe I missed. The other is your

706
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: grievances in the sporting universe, if you've got the disappointments,

707
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: because Arnie just started to list some of the teams

708
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Speaker 2: that got nothing but coal in their socks. I'll also

709
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: tell you a fun Christmas movie that you probably missed

710
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: where Sanna literally was giving coal out to bad kids

711
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Speaker 2: and they put a hit on him. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: it as we continue here. It's Fox Sports Radio. He's

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Speaker 2: Ernie Spanner in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carmen. Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with us and the team here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions

716
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Speaker 2: of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at

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Speaker 2: ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Welcome man, We're bouncing

718
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Speaker 2: around here. Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me

719
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon. Arnie Spanier in for Jason tonight. I've got

720
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Speaker 2: the ratings like Santa trying to drive a straight line.

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Speaker 3: It's very tough.

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Speaker 2: Rudolph over here is really I really wish he was

723
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: sitting next to me because then I can pull back

724
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: the harness a little bit and get it going. But

725
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: we had a full day of NBA and NFL games,

726
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: you know for the Lions, and they're faithful. You know,

727
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: we're talking about where they're at and Jared Goff and

728
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: where he is as a quarterback, like dislike, look, the

729
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: roster needs attention. Clearly, losing both your coordinators made a

730
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 2: big deal, even if Aaron Glenn became a guy known

731
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: for running up and down the sideline before losing a game,

732
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Speaker 2: than anything they did substantively over the course of the year, Arnie.

733
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Speaker 2: But a lot of change, a lot of injuries, and

734
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Speaker 2: a lot of question marks going forward. And it really,

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00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: to me is the parallel of what I witnessed a

736
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. And I think maybe you and

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Speaker 2: I have talked about this once or twice, but I

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Speaker 2: bring it back. Audience is always changing. If you're listening

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Speaker 2: for the first time, thank you. Take us with you

740
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Speaker 2: wherever you go on the iHeartRadio app, download it, give

741
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: it five stars. If you haven't bought that last Christmas

742
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: present for somebody, just borrow their phone from it and say, no,

743
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Speaker 2: I don't want to look at your task. No it's

744
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: not It's never too late. Maybe they have plans for tomorrow.

745
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: Maybe they're going to meet up for a dinner a

746
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Speaker 2: couple of days later because the restaurants are all overrun

747
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: or closed. True, it's still the holiday season for another

748
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: week or two, so I'm still gonna be, you know,

749
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Speaker 2: Merry Chris, Merry Christmas, seeing it up until folks decide

750
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Speaker 2: to throw bricks at me or whatever. But the idea

751
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: being that this looks a lot like the Cincinnati Bengals

752
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: of a couple of years ago, right, and a lot

753
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: of what's making the round in the postgame was Dan

754
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: Campbell talking about the miss in the NFC title game

755
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: against San Francisco a couple of years ago, where he

756
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: said this might have been our shot.

757
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: And probably was. It probably was a shot, but we

758
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: didn't think that at the time. I know Rob Parker

759
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: thought that the Lions were going to have a collapse,

760
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: and he was right about that. I didn't see that though.

761
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: I didn't think, you know, they were going to miss

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Speaker 3: the playoffs this year. I thought they were gonna actually

763
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Speaker 3: win the division. I didn't see the Bears going from

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Speaker 3: worse the first in that division.

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Speaker 2: Well, and as Rob and I have talked about and

766
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: we did a little today, it's like, well some of

767
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Speaker 2: that is you just like to needle Kelvin and the

768
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Speaker 2: people back home in Detroit, and he smiles. You could no,

769
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Speaker 2: I believed it.

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Speaker 3: And I have a look, how quick you would have

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Speaker 3: pulled Caleb Williams for not being a good quarterback like

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Speaker 3: you did with Murray and Tua and all those ways

773
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Speaker 3: would have pulled them.

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Speaker 5: Come on, man, No, they're in year six and seven.

775
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Speaker 5: That's different thing. But still the way Kakey, No, no, no,

776
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Speaker 5: that's a.

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Speaker 2: False equivalence if there ever was one.

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Speaker 3: But look, Caleb Williams did not have as great of

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Speaker 3: a college career like I thought he was, and you know,

780
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: people criticize.

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00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: Him except for that heisman.

782
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Speaker 3: Well, except for that Heisman thing.

783
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Speaker 2: Except for that little Heisman thing. But that sounds I

784
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: didn't it.

785
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Speaker 3: When he broke out after the game and he was

786
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: crying near his mom and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, I mean, look, everybody's examining twenty four

788
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: to seven whenever they can get on the players right,

789
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 2: and depending on where you get drafted, things are gonna

790
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: get magnified in Chicago thing. If you're not playing well,

791
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: you will be the scourge because you've watched it for

792
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: how many years. There's only a few years that are

793
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 2: outliers of a quarterback playing well and wins accompanying it.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise it's a lot of misery.

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Speaker 3: Did you know his numbers this year were pretty much

796
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: equivalent to Mitch Trubisky, I believe. But but yeah, you

797
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: had Mitch Trubisky packed and got out of town.

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Speaker 2: Don't say me I was a Mitchell believer. Oh, you

799
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: could go back and find find plenty of audio. Yeah,

800
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Speaker 2: go back and look at the team that he was

801
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Speaker 2: running with. Well, because you'd have people talking out of

802
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: both sides of their mouth that they wanted they loved

803
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: the coach, but they didn't like him. It's like they

804
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: both went to the playoffs together twice, right, exactly, so

805
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: figure out where you want to sign, you know, the

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00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: credit pie. But he's a backup now, Yeah, he's in Buffalo.

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00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's okay for now, I guess.

808
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: But well, and he's had his shots. He had a

809
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: shot in Pittsburgh, and and look, the lead shill be short.

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00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, right, I mean, how many bites

811
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Speaker 2: at the apple do you get?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he really had a fair shot

813
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Speaker 3: at Pittsburgh.

814
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. But but that's neither here

815
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Speaker 2: nor there, if that's right, right, he is, he's a

816
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo and that's where he is. But but when you

817
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: look at where where the Lions are, there were a

818
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: lot of questions about the line, certainly losing rag now,

819
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: losing a leader like that, losing your coordinators. We watched

820
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: Philadelphia have that step back right after their big run

821
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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, where they lost coordinators and

822
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: then you set it back together, you win a Super Bowl,

823
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: and then you have this year which is dysfunctional, but

824
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Speaker 2: there's still the you know, NFC East champion.

825
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Speaker 3: I don't know why you have such a step back

826
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Speaker 3: after you lose coordinators. I mean, don't every It doesn't

827
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Speaker 3: every team just pretty much run the same twenty to

828
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: twenty five offensive plays passing plays, but they just mix

829
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Speaker 3: it up a little different version. It's not like they're

830
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Speaker 3: reinventing the wheel there, Mike.

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Speaker 2: No, it's all about the excellence of execution, terminology, getting

832
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: folks on the same page, having the consistency on your

833
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: offensive line. Right, That's one of the things we can

834
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Speaker 2: look at with the Eagles. What's right.

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Speaker 3: Nothing to do with coordinators though, No.

836
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: But it changes how you're looking at is like, watch

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Speaker 2: today's game against Minnesota. You knew they couldn't do anything offensively.

838
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: Were they able to run the football? No, it changed turnovers.

839
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 2: I've said that obviously, turnover after turnover, but they didn't

840
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 2: exactly play well without the turnover effect going on there.

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: But with Caleb Williams, it's, you know, year one of

842
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: a new new system. He's under center, play action passing, like,

843
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: there's a million things going on there that are different.

844
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Speaker 2: But the equivalent I had made was with Cincinnati when

845
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: I I went to the Super Bowl when they played

846
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: the Rams and leaving a bunch of Bengals fans were like,

847
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: it's the beginning of a long run, and I'm looking

848
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: at you have that game in the fourth quarter. You're

849
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: not mad at all. It's like, I get it left.

850
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Speaker 2: You left Cincinnati to come to LA for a couple

851
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: of days. But my god, that's man.

852
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: Asked Marino if he had a long run into the

853
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Speaker 3: Super Bowls.

854
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: But Jim Kelly got to four of them, he didn't win, right,

855
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Speaker 2: So like all of that to say that the expectation

856
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: that you were going to stay on top of the world.

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00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Green Bay is always going to be a solid organization.

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Speaker 2: The Bears, you knew they were going to get better.

859
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: Did you think it would translate into a bunch of wins?

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Speaker 3: Getting back on top of what?

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Speaker 2: Right? You bring in a coach, you change a system, yep,

862
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: and you get everybody to buy in to what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: All right. Coming up next, we're gonna finally to that

864
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Speaker 2: Steve Kerr story with Draymond Green. The blueprint that you

865
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Speaker 2: take forward into a new year. He's already I'm miking

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Speaker 2: this is Fox