1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. It was like forever in a day that 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: we've had a normal show, like at a normal time. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: Right in a minute, she goes, she just thought it 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: was a bunch of jack wagons fighting on field, and 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: she's like a PAUPERA thought he was on. I was like, yeah, 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: I was up on the red level and she's like 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: throwing this out and around the radio. I was like, 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: I was asking you what happened? Patriots are close, too 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: close to talking. I was cold, strange looking, he says. Athletically, 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: I think he's pretty good. Yeah, but I think he 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: needs to put on some some muscles. That's important. I 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: think you need to be strong at that position. But 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: in that conference, like even like fans have stats, right, 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: everybody scores every preferred to Tom's TV Mac. I like 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: it TV. I like it content. I went, the phones 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: are stacked, so let's uh unstack them. This is Patriots Unfiltered, 19 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All Right. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: is Tuesday at Llette Stadium. Where Paul and I are 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: holding down the fort with Matt Morrell in the booth 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: everybody else. It's in Las Vegas. Yeah, we're just in 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: a regular facility. Yeah, so we'll Yeah, we're not the 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: taj Mahal, but we will be getting a call in 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: I probably from Deuce at some point during the show. 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: They're at practice right now. It's nine in the morning 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas and that's when they're practicing. So we'll 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: get a mid practice report from Deuce. Hopefully we can 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: get an update as to you know, maybe something that's 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: interesting going on at the time right now. Um, yeah, 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 1: we heard heard from Bill just before our show. Nothing really, 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: uh hopefully except he's don't worthy. Yeah, he loves that 33 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: facility that he's in. I you know, if I'd like 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: to be able to ask him, and of course I can't. 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: Is like, you know, how could his facility get to 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: where he likes it as much as the Raiders? For 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, those are the kinds of questions, like you know, 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: the lawyers say, never ask a question that you don't 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: know the answer to or you don't want the answer to. Well, yeah, 40 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I do, how could that facility be better? Well, you know, 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: you could be out of it, right. I don't want 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: to ask, but I thought it was so great having 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: everything in one place, you know, the stadium and the 44 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: fields behind it, and everything's right here. And I know 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: they're adding like two floors of space for them. Yeah, 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: coming up. There are some significant renovations going here, not 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: just that, you know, for the fans. With the stadium itself, 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: which you guys are all well aware of, it'd be 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: nice to add in. You know, we're gonna get there too. Yeah, 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I just felt a little 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: jil So you're a little you're a little down on 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: the head. Come kept a little at the little red ass. 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, okay, Freddie John McDermott, Freddie not happy 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: with the with the coach. Well no, I mean just 55 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's like you got a good place too. Yeah, 56 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, well but do we yes, we do. They 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: have a good place. I think he's gotten pretty much 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: And this is what I said to you off air. 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: I think he's pretty much gotten anything he's wanted for 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: the last twenty plus years. Yeah, you know, right down 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: to the fact that his two sons are on the staff. 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Just i'd just like to know, like what's lacking here 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: and maybe we can fix it. I would agree, yeah, 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, I would agree. You know. Anyway, I'm sure 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: it is, it's beautiful. I'm sure it's new. Um, so 66 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, uh, that's great and there this is the 67 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: first day of joint practices. Yesterday, I guess it was 68 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: a walkthrough pretty much. Yeah, they were in shells. Yeah, 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: a little bit higher tempo than just a plane walkthrough. 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think it was overly taxing yesterday, 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: which makes sense. They traveled all day on Sunday and 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: then you get out there, you want to do a 73 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: little knock the rust off, probably do some walk through 74 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: type stuff that you're going to do in these two 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: days of joint practices. A lot of work will get 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: done today. They took a lot of guys like Hunter, 77 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Henry's there, everybody's everybody's there, And would you take guys 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: there if they weren't going to participate in nature? Everybody 79 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean well Wilkinson's not there, Yeah, Wilkerson's not there. 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: And there's one other wink when when was in a 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: red Jersey yesterday? When in Haran and Henry we're all 82 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: at practice yesterday. Okay, Um, they were missing a couple 83 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: of guys who the names are escaping. I know Ronnie 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: Perkins was one of them. Yeah, but he but he 85 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: didn't go. Yeah, I think I don't know if Perkins 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: went or not. Okay, So they I mean, they're doing 87 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: reasonably well from a health standpoint. Um, it'll be interesting 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: to see to you a point your question if you 89 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: get any of the any work for those guys. Um. 90 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: And obviously Thornton wasn't there. Yeah, and that's the you know, 91 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: the main one. Since you know, we talked on Friday 92 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: night was the last time I think we had a 93 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: chance to talk to our listeners. Um, you know, in 94 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the Panthers game. And yeah, we did 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: get probably the worst case scenario in terms of that 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: that shoulder injury. Reports reports indicate that he eat has 97 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: a fracture callar bone and um could be out up 98 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: to eight weeks. I know Mike Jardi was one that 99 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: sort of speculating and said, but you know, the person 100 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: that he talked to really stressed the fact that players, 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: all you know, all you know, that kind of an 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: injury heals differently. It could be so it could be 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: four or five weeks. It could be you know, ten 104 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: or twelve weeks. I mean, I think, really when you're 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: when you're talking about something like that, it can be. 106 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm very optimi. I'm very optimistic because he's got very 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: thin bones, so it wouldn't take very long for them 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: to heal. That's right. Can't argue with that logic. Can't 109 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: argue with that logic. Yes, although wouldn't that make him 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: more susceptible to rebreaking? Yes? Okay, yes, so they're easier 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: to play with, easier to heal. Yeah, with all the pluses, 112 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: you get minuses too, right, But it is unfortunate in 113 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: all seriousness, because I thought he was having a pretty 114 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: good camp. It looked like he was sort of making 115 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: a push to be a relevant part of the offense. 116 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: And I have to think he opens the season now 117 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: on IR. I mean I would think that that would 118 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: be a reasonable expectation. Yeah, And just to clarify for people, 119 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: you know some of these rules. First of all, these 120 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: rules change every year seemingly, so I will probably get 121 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: some of this wrong too, But just to reiterate, in 122 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: order to open the season on IR, he would have 123 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: to be on the roster on the final cutdown day, 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, whichever. I think it's the Tuesday after Labor 125 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: Day I think is the you know, so he would 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: have to be on the fifty three man roster and 127 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: then the next day they could revert him to IR. 128 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: If he's put on IR now, he's not eligible to 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: return now. So that's the you know, like a lot 130 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: of people are like, oh, well, you know you put 131 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: him on IR. That opens up Well, there are some 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: roster manipulations that need to happen, and little Jordan Humphrey 133 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: as an example, you know, might be able to slide 134 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: into that spot. Maybe they look at someone else, yep. 135 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: On the defensive side. I was listening to one of 136 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: your stations this morning, Paul and their flash report said 137 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: that with his great summer so far, Jonathan Jones is 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: pushing to be the number one outside corner. Huh who 139 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: who I mean? I don't have any problem with Jonathan Jones. Yeah. 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I think he's been outside for the last week or 141 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: so and he has performed reasonably well. I would not 142 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: say he's performed better than Jalen Mills. Yeah. And great 143 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: summer yeah, strong strong to quite strong. I don't know 144 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: where they get this stuff. I'm not sure you could 145 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: use the word great with a lot of what we've seen. 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think that the defense 147 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: has been better than the offense for the most part. 148 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: I think Mills has been really good for the most part. 149 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I don't know about great. Yeah 150 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: to you a point. Yeah, but Jonathan Jones has I 151 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: think they made the comment during the game Freddie that 152 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: this has gone on long enough with him being on 153 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: the outside. It's not just like a little right, it's 154 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: not an experiment. But you know, overall, again, he gotta 155 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: take into consideration the competition both Carolina and the Patriots themselves. 156 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: But the cornerback group has been more competitive than I 157 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: thought it would be. It's it's looked pretty good now 158 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: it may stink it up to High Heaven this week 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: with the Raiders and on Friday, I thought they were 160 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: pretty good. Now they've done pretty well. I thought they 161 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: were pretty good in the Carolina week. I thought the 162 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: joint practices and I thought that game. I didn't think 163 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: they were very good against the Giants in the game. 164 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: Now that's you know, that's the preseason game. And most 165 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: of the guys that we're going to be talking about 166 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: during the course of the season. Really weren't a big 167 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: part of that game, right, So take that with a 168 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: grain of salt. Like I thought they the Giants had 169 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: open receivers for the most part, but most of the 170 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: guys covering of them, well you know they won't be here, right, 171 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not really ny car wash Yeah, Sonnies, Sonnies 172 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: get it right? Um, okay, sixteen effort. The other thing 173 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: that we were talking about before the show, Paul Mike 174 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: Grease had a nugget, Oh yeah about um what's his face? 175 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: So we talked about all the guys that were there, 176 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: r right, Um, Kendrick Bourne Um didn't play in the game, 177 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: and he was there and taking reps Mike Ree, I mean, 178 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: Mike do so. Um. I won't say ably filled my shoes, 179 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: but he tried. He tried, and I give him an effort. 180 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: He tried to do the blog servations and he mentioned 181 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: that he got plenty of work with the front line guys. 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne Um, so there is you know, he didn't 183 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: play on on Friday, and Trent Brown didn't play on Friday. 184 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: After the game, I think I read during the postgame 185 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: show a tweet from Karen Greegan, who said that according 186 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: to a source, it was simply he got the night off, 187 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: not and never was related to the week and that 188 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: was it. And I saw what I've said to you 189 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't pass the sniff test, Like why is he 190 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: getting the night off? Right? No one else right, you know, 191 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: no other veteran got the night off. He's not. And 192 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: why did he get the night off and not be there? Right? 193 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: More more importantly, why wasn't he in uniform getting the 194 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: night off like everybody else? Right? So over the course 195 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: of the weekend, there was some various reports that sort 196 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: of alluded to the fact that maybe Kendrick Bourne's absence 197 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: was disciplined related. Not really much about Trent Brown in 198 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: that regard, but I do find it interesting. And you 199 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: know who my favorite writer is around here. My favorite 200 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: Patriots beat reporter is Mike Reese. And there is no 201 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: close second. Right. He doesn't throw stuff around. That's why 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: I like the way he does his business. He'll he'll 203 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: give you some of the you know, of one side, 204 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: and he'll give you some of the other side. But 205 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't he's not he's not into hot takes, right, 206 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: He's not telling you. He's not telling you that the 207 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: offense is an abject disaster right on day one. Okay. 208 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: So Mike has a little notebook that he does after 209 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: all the practices, and he did it. He does it 210 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: after the game kind of you know, a blatant rip 211 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: off yea, as he has said many many times, a 212 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: blatant ripoff of me. Yeah, and he's he's actually said 213 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: that to me. But that's okay because he and I 214 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: are very like Imitation is the sincerest form of flat 215 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: and we are very like minded with a lot of 216 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: these observations, and we tend to have a lot of 217 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: the same stuff in our in our notebooks. But I 218 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: thought this was interesting and I didn't have anything like 219 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: this in my thought process when we were talking about 220 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: this Friday night. And I'm just going to read the 221 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: tweet that he had. It was it was one of 222 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: the the observations that he had after the game. So 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: he writes, um, no, Kendrick Bourne and Trent Brown in 224 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: the lineup, And when Bill Belichick made reference to them 225 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: being available for this week's practice in Las Vegas, the 226 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: message couldn't have been any clearer to me. Practice better 227 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: and you earn your way onto the field, and he 228 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: said Brown's urgency seemed a little inconsistent at times, particularly 229 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: in the two minute drill during the jointy practices against 230 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers. Yea, And Mike doesn't just throw that stuff 231 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, someone obviously had let Mike know they're 232 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: not practicing well, that they didn't practice well. Now we 233 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: know that Kendrick Bourne didn't practice well because he's on 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: the field for the first play. The referee points to 235 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: something with his knee. We all assumed it was some 236 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: sort of equipment violation. The referee sent him off, Bill 237 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: lit him up. Yep. He goes back in eventually, and 238 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: then a short time later and again the Panthers. We 239 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: we've we've talked about this at length. We felt like 240 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: the Panthers were a little chippy in those joint practices, right, 241 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: they were thumping, we were tagging, right, and that started 242 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: the first fight. However, what extended the first fight was 243 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne coming out of nowhere with a haymaker over 244 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: the top, to which he got ejected for right. Yea. 245 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: So he didn't even get to practice much at all 246 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: all in the first day of the two joint practices, 247 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: and then he's out there mostly with the backups, and 248 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: we made a you know, a lot of mention of it. 249 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you were with us on the show 250 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: on the second day. We talked about this at length 251 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: during the second show and then lo and behold, he's 252 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: not out there for the game on Friday night. So 253 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: we kind of saw something there. So Trent Brown, people 254 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: were saying just wasn't really overly into it. Um, the 255 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: first day of the fights, he kind of like was 256 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: standing around, yeah, and then the second day he sort 257 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: of got his way over there. Now, Um, I don't 258 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: know if this is true, but I trust Mike. There's 259 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: a handful of guys that I really trust around here, 260 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: you know. Mike, Mike Lesis is one of them. Philip 261 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: phil Perry is one of them. Jim McBride is one 262 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: of them. I trust. When they tell me things like this, 263 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: they're telling me news. I'm not necessarily talking about their 264 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions on guy's ability, right, Yeah, I'm talking 265 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: about when when they sort of allude to there was 266 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: some discipline involved. I don't think they're making it up, right, 267 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: And Mike is one of the guys I trust. I 268 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: found this really interesting attitude. This Trent Brown thing. I 269 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: found it really interesting. Yeah, you want to play, you 270 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: gotta practice. Like we saw with Kendrick Bourne, we don't 271 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: have to sort of extrapolate he's telling you. That was 272 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: the same kind of a situation with Trent Brown. The 273 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: other thing I heard over the weekend, This is from 274 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Albert Breer reporting that he heard that Whin was the 275 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: subject of some trade talks, right, which which you and 276 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: I have been on for yea, for the whole lot. 277 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: And I was thinking, that's why he hasn't been playing. Yeah, 278 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: you actually threw that out there last week. I mean, 279 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that that was why he wasn't playing, 280 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean we've been talking about the fact 281 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: that he's a trade candidate. He makes I think ten 282 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: point one. They're still, you know, reasonably tied against the 283 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: cap for whatever that's worth. Maybe they feel like they 284 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: can save a little money, and you know, for a 285 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: player who probably doesn't project to be part of the future. Yea, 286 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: And I think that makes that makes sense, except for 287 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of sort of punting again 288 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: on the current team, you know, And I'm not telling 289 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: you you trade your right tackle and you're doomed. No, 290 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: but I think it's another exact like I think you 291 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: traded your guard because of that. So now you have 292 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: two offensive linemen that are better than the guys that 293 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: are gonna be playing in their place that are gone 294 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: largely has a money Yeah, So I don't like that. 295 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, it's too bad about when 296 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: I I know you guys kid kid me, but I 297 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: do think he is a good athlete, and I think 298 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: he could be a good lineman. But it's you know, 299 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: it's the injuries, and you know, availability is part of 300 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: being having dependability. Yep, so huge. Yeah, that's too bad. 301 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: And I do think that he's better than anyone that 302 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: would replace him at right tackle, um right now, right now. Yeah, 303 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't like I don't think there's much of an 304 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: argument to be made that Justin Harun or Yodni Kaj 305 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: is better than Isaiah Winn. You know, Like, I know, 306 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: I'd like to tease you about your assessment of Isaiah Winn, 307 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: but I think he's an NFL caliber player. You know, 308 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: he might be middle of the pack, but he's an 309 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: NFL caliber's daughter and those other guys haven't proven to be. Yeah, 310 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: So I think he's better than his replacement will be, 311 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: just like I think Shack Mason's better than Cole Strange 312 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: and Michael Win You yeah, whatever one of them you 313 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: wanted to say was his replacement. So, you know, offensive 314 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: line is something that again even you know we've been 315 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: talking about, but even your guy Mike Greece, you know, 316 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: said it earlier. You know, he was the one that 317 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, tweeted out maybe a call to do you know, 318 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: I think he was kidding, but maybe a call to 319 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: Dante Scarneckia is in order, because you know, he was 320 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: seeing the same thing that we're seeing. That the problems 321 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: with the line. Yeah, I think that a lot of 322 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: the problems that we saw early in camp have sort 323 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: of been rectified. And I'm not just I'm not talking 324 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: about just the caliber of play. I mean, I haven't 325 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: seen munication. Yeah, I haven't seen like you got him, 326 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: I got him? Oh, No, one got him and Mac 327 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: just got killed right like the sack that happened on 328 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: the third play of the game Um Friday Night in 329 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: Max's first series. I mean, James Ferren's got beat and 330 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: it happens he just got beat, Um, he lost he 331 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: lost his guy, and there was I think a lot 332 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: less examples of that in the game, certainly early when 333 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: the starters were out there than I've seen earlier in camp. 334 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: So that's probably a sign that the communication has improved 335 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. Going back to Thornton, um, so, 336 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: we learned that he's got a fractured collar bone reportedly, 337 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: so he's definitely going to be out for the beginning 338 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: of the season. Um, you know, at least the first 339 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: couple of games, maybe three. Um. So we talked about, 340 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's you know, an opportunity for little 341 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey, but who else is competing for that? I 342 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: think is in that in that thing and you know 343 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: idea do a roster roster projection that we put out. 344 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: That's why I was trying to into that, you know. 345 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, Thornton, I think has to 346 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: be on the roster at least to start. So that's 347 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: what I was trying to do here. And I went 348 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: with the you know, the you know, the obvious five Yep, 349 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: DeVante Parker, Jacoby Myers, Kendrick Bourne, Nelson, Agalore, Taekwon, Thornton. 350 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: I think those five or the guys, but you have 351 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: to come down to figure out is it Trey Nixon 352 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: is a little Jordan Humphrey right, because Christian Wilkinson is 353 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: not really available right now. So you know, we'll have 354 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: to see how he h he comes out of that. 355 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: But I think it's it's probably Humphrey, fred because I 356 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: think he might offer more special team And so don't 357 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: be alarmed if close to the beginning of the season 358 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: they cut Humphrey. Oh, yeah, with the understanding that once 359 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: we get into the season and then we can put 360 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: Thornton on I R. You'll come right back on right. 361 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: Guess who's on the phone right now. The deuce is 362 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: loose in Vegas. What's up, Deuce? What's up? Fellas? So 363 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: what what have you been doing so far? Have you 364 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: hit any of the establishments? Oh? I thought you were 365 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to be a football No, no, not yet. 366 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: We'll get into football soon enough. Yeah, we went out 367 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: a little bit last night. We went out to uh 368 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: to the strip and took in the sights a little bit, 369 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: had some dinner and uh the Bellaggio. We watched the 370 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Bellagio water So but we've been there, you know. Hey, 371 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: we're here on a work trips that we're turning in 372 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: as early as possible, trying to, you know, stay on 373 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: top of things out here in Vegas. You don't have 374 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: to lie to me. Yeah, you don't have to lie 375 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, that's okay. It's just not the same 376 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: here without Paul I, you know, I just I don't 377 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: have a drinking buddy right now. That's true. That is true. 378 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: So you're at practice right now? Oh yeah, we are. 379 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: So it's they're kind of in the walk two stages 380 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: right now, and uh man, the setup is tough. We 381 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: are like next to the Raiders side. There are three fields. 382 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: We are like on ground level, so the Patriots are 383 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: like two fields away practice, and we can see a 384 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: lot of the Raiders pretty much of the Patriots at 385 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: this point at all. So I expect a complete breakdown 386 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: of the game plan. Then when we play the Raiders 387 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: in December, and you're not allowed to move like it's 388 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: a set space and that's it. Oh oh oh, you're 389 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: not allowed to even step on the grass like it. 390 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: Don't even look at them? What about the look at them? 391 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: What about the Raiders media? Are they with you? Yeah, 392 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: well that's what we're running because we're like, did they know, 393 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: did they know what they're missing? I don't know. I 394 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: don't know because but but so far everything to the 395 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: raiders right up front. So it's you know, it's a 396 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: little interesting to get an up close look at Davante 397 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: Adams and watching Hunter Renfro right now get blanketed by 398 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: Oh that was twenty seven miles prime. So we're starting 399 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: some drills here. I didn't realize, um so starting some 400 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: one on once here. But it's been but you know, 401 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a really nice facility. It's a little tough. 402 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: We heard you're trying to taj Mahal. Yeah, I know, 403 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Bill calls, Yeah, the taj Mahal. Are you able to 404 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: see any of the insider just the outside. We saw 405 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of the inside. We peeked in. Um, 406 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's all brand new. I mean we're out 407 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: at the practice facility at the inter Mountain Health Performance 408 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: Center that I'm looking at right now. But you know, 409 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: the big black and silver, beautiful building and uh, you 410 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: know it's just for the media. You gotta like the 411 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: media rooms away from the fields, and you have to 412 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: be escorted everywhere. Uh. Kendrick Thourne just fell down on 413 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: a route and the past was intercepted on that that 414 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: was these are a little one on ones going on 415 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: right now. But um, but yeah, it's uh, you know, 416 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: it's a it's a nice place. It's just always how 417 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: far is it from the stadium from Allegian Stadium, Well 418 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: that's downtown in Vegas on the strip, so it's you know, 419 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: it's probably a good like twenty thirty minutes. Oh, nice 420 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: coverage by Jack Jones, coming right by me, color Jack, 421 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: So what are they doing seven on seven now? So 422 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: they're doing the stuff near you at least right sounds 423 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: like they're right there, he started. Yeah, yes, some individual 424 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 1: individual stuff, um had just kind of started up. At 425 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: least they were more enough. The Patriots were far away, 426 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: so I mean that's like the uh, the Patriots receivers 427 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: and all the defensive and offensive line stuff that's happening 428 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: way far away from us right now. But Julian Edelman 429 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: was here. Uh you know, obviously a lot of familiar 430 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: faces between Brandon Bolden, Yeah, Johnson, I Say, as Zuber, 431 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: Jared Stidhams, the list goes on and on. So this 432 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: guy is cool to see. Jewels though he kind of 433 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: showed up here unannounced and oh and real nice play 434 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: right there from Derek Carr to a lot of interaction 435 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels with his old players. I didn't see 436 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot. I saw him and Bill kind of have 437 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: a moment. I saw Bill have a moment with Chandler Jones. 438 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: Uh notice I said Chandler, I got that one right then. Yeah. Um, 439 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, there were definitely some some handshakes 440 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: going on, even seeing some of the Patriots players that 441 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: played for the Raiders. Um, you know, given ray Kal 442 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: McMillin saying a little Max Crosby, So a lot of 443 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: connections going on out here. Okay, well listen here, maybe 444 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, towards the end of the show, call back 445 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: and you know, up to that point, give us your 446 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: assessment of today's practice. Yeah sounds good. Definitely, all right, 447 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: I'll let you get back to reporting. All right, thanks, Mikes. 448 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Mike do so at practice. So we'll hear from him 449 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: a little later when he has some more info. Hopefully 450 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: they continue to do it. Maybe the Patriots were just 451 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: warming up on that farfield and now all the action 452 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: has taken place in the fields closer to what I 453 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: forgot to ask him if there's fans there. Yesterday they 454 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: were not, but that was not a joint practice, So 455 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if the rules are different. I thought 456 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: that whenever there's a joint practice, you have to allow fans. Well, 457 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: I know you have to allow the media. Ah, Okay, 458 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: I don't know about fans. I don't know the answer 459 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: to that question. But I was told during the offseason 460 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: this year that if it's a joint practice, it has 461 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: to be open to the media. Yeah. What I would 462 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: like the league to do and mandate it, especially because 463 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna go down to two preseason games, there's no doubt, 464 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: and up to eighteen regular season games, you know, with 465 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: the Peter King theory, what's that televised the joint practice. Yeah, 466 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: I think that it should be mandated that you have 467 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: to broadcast or do something live stream whatever a joint practice. Yeah. 468 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: Pete King brought that up yesterday and I was reading 469 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: his Football Morning in America there um, and he said, 470 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: you know, like that, there is absolutely you know, and 471 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: he kept saying, like I understand that it's it's a 472 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: little different for coaches, but there's very little to be 473 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: gained from watching players thirty through eighty five right play 474 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: in these preseason games. Yeah, Um, it's not anything that 475 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: you know, the general fan is overly interested in. Now. 476 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: I know there's exceptions. I know there's plenty of people 477 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter that break down this stuff and start telling 478 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: me about, you know, the eighth string offensive and defensive 479 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: linemen that you know want to rep with a with 480 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: a great swim move like like that. That's I understand. 481 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: The coaches are very interested in that. I understand that's 482 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: their live that their livelihood. Fans don't care. Fans don't 483 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: care about breaking down. Uh, you know how the fourth 484 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: string center did against the third string nose tackle. They 485 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: want to know how Christian Barmore is doing and you 486 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: don't get a chance to see them. Um, did you 487 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: happen to see last night the Falcon and Jets? You 488 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: turn in who was the color guy in that game? 489 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: That was Dani Rolovsky and Lewis Riddick is the new Right. 490 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: I didn't really see much of it, so I don't know. 491 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: Did they have the regular Monday Night crew? I don't know. 492 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: But who Brian Greasy is now the quarterbacks coach of 493 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: the Niners, so he was replaced boy Rolovski. I don't 494 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: know who it was, Um, I don't know if it 495 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: was Riddick or Alowski, but whoever was doing the breakdown, 496 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they were really getting technical. Like if you 497 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: were a really casual fan, I don't think you'd understand 498 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: what he was talking about. I don't think that does 499 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: much good for anybody. But they were really like, you know, 500 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: breaking down coverages and why this play worked and that 501 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: play didn't. It was impressive, but a little it was 502 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: probably over the head of a lot of fans, you know. Yeah, 503 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: and I understand, Like I said, I understand there's value 504 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: in that for coaches and scouts. You know, they're watching 505 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: the coaches and scouts are watching those guys because you're 506 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: thirty fifth player might fill a role on your team 507 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: better than you will on on that team. Sure, so 508 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: you might be able to, you know, you take those 509 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: guys that are down the end. You might be looking 510 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: for something very specific that you're you know, the team 511 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: that the guy's on already has three of those, so 512 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: they don't need a third one. But you don't have 513 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: any of those, right, you know, I'm talking about you know, 514 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: a guy who was really really good at you know, 515 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: being the inside block or on the edge on the 516 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: punt punt protection team, something very specific that coaches care 517 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: about that fans, you know, only care about when you 518 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: get three punts blocked, right, you know that that kind 519 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: of stuff. So I understand the importance of it from 520 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: a football standpoint, but fans aren't overly interested in it, 521 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: all right. Eight five five Pats five hundred is the 522 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: eight ticket hut line. Eight five five Paths five hundred. 523 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: Web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. UM. 524 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: Looking ahead to this week, Patriots not only will have 525 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: a joint practice today, they'll have one tomorrow. Then Thursday 526 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: is they'll probably have a walk through in the morning, 527 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: but it'll be a light day. Media won't be um, 528 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: it won't. It won't be any media availability on Thursday. 529 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: And then of course the game is on Friday. So 530 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: that's what you have to look forward to here for 531 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: the pre and postgame show. Doos will be back, yes tomorrow, 532 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: we'll be back, yes, and we'll have a fill in host. 533 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: Is that official Christian Arkian? Okay, Christian will be coming 534 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: in this week? Yeah, okay, So Hardy's out this week 535 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: and Christian Arcand is in and it'll be a little 536 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: later this week. Yeah, the show because the game's not 537 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: until eight fifteens. Yeah, so if you'll listen at night 538 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: or on the weekends. Uh, you know who Christian Arkand 539 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: is probably started like five thirty he isn't he He's 540 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: the guy with UM Adam Jones at night. Yes, yeah, 541 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: so be careful of him. Okay, don't you know, Let's 542 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: hope that none of Adam Jones. Boy, I don't try 543 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: and choose no more about it, because Adam Jones has 544 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: really gone to the dark side. M Jones is absolutely hilarious. 545 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: He's like he's like the Emperor in Star Wars. He 546 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: is just evil through the core. There's no there's no 547 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: rehabilitating him. But let's hope we get Christian R. Camp 548 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: before he's he's gone completely over. So so Tykwon Thornton. Yeah, 549 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: so I would guess that he will open on UM 550 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: on IR and if that's the case, then he would 551 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: have to miss a minimum of four games. Yeah, so 552 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: just to let I think that was I think it 553 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: might have been three games last year. Really they've changed 554 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: and made it four. Um, but you can have I 555 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: think as many as eight guys go on IR and 556 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 1: come back. UM is there a time limit by two 557 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: when like, can you put a guy in IR like 558 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: in November and help yea, yeah, yeah, so there's no yeah, 559 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: and you can even have the same guy go on 560 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: i R twice during the course of the season. Well, okay, 561 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: that's probably better. Huh. Yeah. I think that the the 562 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: the lightning up of those IR rules was a good development. 563 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: I think guys that like pull a hamstring and are 564 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: gonna miss three weeks, four weeks, you know, and now 565 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: you got to carry that roster spot with he has 566 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: no chance to play for three weeks and you have 567 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: to waste that roster spot. Doesn't make any sense. Now 568 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: you can, you can put him on IR, but you 569 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: don't necessarily lose him for the season. He can come 570 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: back when he's healthy. I think that's the way it 571 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: should work. That's the way it works in other sports. 572 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: I think it should work in the sport that injuries 573 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: are probably most prevalent. Yeah, And I know why they 574 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: don't have it because they don't want coaches taking advantage everywhere. 575 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: But I think it makes sense. Yeah, all right, let's 576 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: get to some of these emails. See what everyone else 577 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: is talking about. Any any other NFL I mean Brady's back. 578 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: Reportedly he was out eleven eleven days. He was out 579 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: eleven days. Nobody still knows what he was doing. I 580 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: don't think it was the Mass singer. No, you don't know. 581 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that was what it was. Matt, you do, right, Um, 582 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: that's not true. Um So, I think though I've said 583 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: it before and just so that in case people don't know, 584 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: one of my preseason predictions this is his last season. Yeah, 585 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, as I mocked you at the time, 586 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: I think it's reasonable to expect age forty five. It's probably, 587 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, one of these years going to be his 588 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, he's thrown out and I wonder 589 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: if if he's not even gonna make it, Like I 590 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: just wonder if he's having second thoughts. Yeah, how that 591 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: would be a bold predict. And his heart's not in it. 592 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not predicting that. I just wondering 593 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: if his heart's not in it. I can't believe that 594 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: he took eleven days off in the middle of camp. 595 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: Odds that he finishes the season for whatever reason. I'm 596 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: even including injury odds that he finishes the season. Okay, 597 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: all right, I'm just wondering. I just this whole thing 598 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: just still seems weird to me from a guy who 599 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: was carried himself as being the ultimate, the ultimate team guy, 600 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: unless you know, leaves camp during the time that he 601 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: was kind of in limbo. He made a commitment and 602 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: he's sticking to it anyway, and he told the Bucks before. 603 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: By all accounts, he this was worked out well ahead 604 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: of time, right, But what commitment could have been such 605 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: that he said, Okay, well I'm gonna miss it besides 606 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: the Masks singer, some some type of big money commitment. Oh, 607 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: he didn't miss eleven days because of something like I 608 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: think I think he spent time with his family. Well, okay, 609 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: and I just can't imagine he couldn't spend time with 610 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: his family before camp. Yeah, I don't know. Like I 611 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: don't either. I'm not I'm not mocking you at all. Fred, 612 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: you know that's that's my favorite sport. I'm not mocking 613 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: Fred is one of my favorites. I'm not doing that 614 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: because I have no idea, no clue what he is 615 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: doing right now, but what he was doing the last 616 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: week and a half. Um, any other NFL news that 617 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: we need to cover before we get to the emails 618 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: and phone calls. It kind of minors stuff that the 619 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: last couple of days that sort of minorly touched the Patriots. 620 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: Nick Mullins. Yeah, the quarterback the Raiders got traded to Minnesota. Um, Minnesota, Minnesota. 621 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: Uh that opens the door for old friend Jared's did him? Yeah, 622 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: being the official back up with the Raiders to Derek Carr. So, 623 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean not really a Patriots for they did story, 624 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: but kind of well back in the AFC East. What's 625 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: the deal with Zach Wilson. What's his status? I think 626 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: he's still um, sort of on the edge. They they 627 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: insist that they will not play him if he's not 628 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: one hundred percent from the opener. So who's there back? 629 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: Flacco will play if he if he's not ready to go. Yeah, Flacco, 630 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: I guess has played well in practice. I don't you 631 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: said you watched the game? Did Flacco play last night? 632 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: He wasn't in when I was watching. I watched because 633 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: I know they got off to a terrible start. Um 634 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: they would they would down early in the game. Now 635 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: I came back. I think I tuned in in the 636 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: second quarter. Um, I don't know. If he played. I 637 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: know Mariota played. I woke up this morning and saw 638 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 1: some highlight team pretty good. Yeah, but he should like 639 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: guy's been around the league for a while. You should 640 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: light it up in the preseason. Yeah, he had one 641 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: throw into the end zone that was really sharp. Okay, 642 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: let's let's get to some email, shall we. Pedro writes 643 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: in He's from Connecticut, he says, prior to ask you 644 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: my question, I'd like to say that the addition of 645 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: Tamara Brown was a great add to the media roster. 646 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. She provides great insight and it is clearly 647 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: full of Patriots knowledge. I enjoyed listening to her during 648 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots pregame show. The members of the past were 649 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: all great as well. Maybe Fred should do the next 650 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: big board for us in the draft, signed Tamara's mother. 651 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: With the rumors surrounded Kendrick Bourne, was there anything worth 652 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: mentioning in his first day back at the Las Vegas practice? 653 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: If he were to be traded, what does the PU 654 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: team think the Patriots will get for him? A player 655 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: in a low draft pick, or maybe just a low pick. 656 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: I can't see his value being anything higher than a 657 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: possible third or fourth round pick. That's you think that's high. Yeah, 658 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think you could get a comparable player, 659 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, someone who's been around the league who's not 660 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: needed on his team, well, like or or a late 661 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: draft pick. Yeah, what about like a second string tackle. Yeah, 662 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: I think that's probably not enough for Kendrick Bourne. Oh, Like, 663 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: I think Kendrick Bourne is at least like a third receiver, 664 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: which is kind of a starting spot. Yeah, right, everything, 665 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: I like. I think he's Do you think late round 666 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: pick late, same kind of thing? Yeah, I like, I 667 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't just give him away. Yeah, Um, I wouldn't trade 668 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: win at all. I mean it's gonna pro most people 669 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: are gonna hear me say that, and they we're gonna say, 670 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: what what a fraud he's you know, he's he wants 671 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: it both ways. No, I don't think he's a great player, 672 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: but I don't think you have anything better than him 673 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: on the roster. And I'm not in I'm not up 674 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: for making my team worse in the short term unless 675 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna you know, someone wants to get stupid and 676 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: give you, like a second round pick. Do you think 677 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen? Um? I mean I think the best 678 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: you could get is like a fourth or fifth round 679 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: pick for him. I don't. I not even sounds high 680 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: to me. What if your package both born and win. 681 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: What could you get second round pick? Yeah? And again, 682 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: but you're not making your team better now, No, let's see, 683 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: Tyler says, this is a keep trade or cut game. 684 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: Keep trade, cut, Barmore, David Andrews, and Dugger. Who do 685 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: you keep? Who do you trade? And who do you cut? Oh? 686 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: Let's see. I keep Barmore, trade Dugger and cut Andrews. 687 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't like keep trade cut because a lot of 688 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: times I don't want to get rid of anybody right 689 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: born Henry and Stevenson born Henry Stevenson. I keep trade Henry, 690 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: trade cut born. Yeah, two three more Jet Well, Justin Jefferson, 691 00:35:52,960 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and Deebo Samuel. I keep Jefferson, UH cut 692 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: Samuel and trade Chase. That's a tough one. I keep Samuel, 693 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: I cut Chase, and no, I trade Chase and I 694 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: cut Jefferson. I think jeff jeff Yeah, I do not 695 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: do that. Get your hands off of that board. I 696 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: like Jefferson too. I think Jefferson is the best. That's 697 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: those three are. That's pretty much the cream debo. I 698 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: think he has a really really short shelf life. I 699 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: don't think you can be able to play like that 700 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: and uh persevere Boston cream donuts, powdered, jelly, filled or 701 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: glazed rings. Well, you keep the Boston cream donut, you 702 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: trade this honey dip, and you cut. I am so 703 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: the opposite. I hate Boston cream donut. Boston, Matt, what's 704 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: the first donut to go every week? Cut him? I'll Boston, 705 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: I'll trade the rings, and I'll keep the jelly. Uh. 706 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: And finally, Andy Hart, Eric Scalavino and Megan O'Brien in Oh. 707 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: I think that's kind. Yeah, you keep m ob and 708 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: you trade Andy because you get something from you. Cut Eric, 709 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: Poor Eric. The good thing is, you know, I'm not listening. 710 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: He has no value. You know, there's no way he 711 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: would ever know that. I said that, right, You guys 712 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: could even send it to him and you could add him, 713 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: and he still wouldn't find out because he blocks all 714 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: of He blocks everybody. Uh, let's go to the ace 715 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: ticket out line eight five five paths five hundred. John 716 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: and Duxbury's on the line. What's up, John? Gentlemen, Hawaii 717 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: you good, Paul. I want you in ours in the 718 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: beautiful Glendale Park area. Ever last week, Wow, Glendale Park 719 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: they were they were fixing the street. Dude, I get 720 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: up a Cherry Street. Oh god, you you're from de 721 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: Luxebury and you got stuck down by Cherry Street Park 722 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: and everything Debury. I lived down here now, I'm from 723 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: I grew up eight miles away from you. Where about 724 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: um some of them? Oh all right yeah Glendale Park? Uh, 725 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: you know, gave up a lot of hits in that park. 726 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: You know that's a that's actually a pretty nice area 727 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: up there. Yeah it is. It's my point. And first 728 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: of all, you're right about the Boston Cream donut call. 729 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: Those are the best dons. I love them. And Lemon 730 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: feel built. I like Lemon feel better. Yeah, you know, 731 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: Lemon feel look good. But if they get rid of Win, 732 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna look make that Mason trade, which was assinine 733 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: to begin with, it's gonna make a amplify it ten 734 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: times because now you've got three guys that they you know, cameras. 735 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: I don't think I think he was a jag, but 736 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: and I'm not that crazy about Win, but given away 737 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: Mason for a fifth round draft pick that was just 738 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: completely stupid. Yeah, I mean I would largely agree, um, 739 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: and I think that you're you're weakening your offensive line 740 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: in the short term. And it's not like you have 741 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: the other side of the argument. You could say, well, 742 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: you've got cap relief and you've got a first round pick. 743 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: The value was just too great, you know, Like, I 744 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: think we can all agree. And I even forgot about that. 745 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: John just brought up you got a fifth rounder for 746 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: Shack Mason. You're not getting anything better than that for 747 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: Isaiah Winn. Yeah, and that, I mean, that's that's the problem, Paul, 748 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's crazy. And could you guys, 749 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on this on this remark, 750 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: but please tell us the schedule again. I missed it there. 751 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: I was out in the kitchen. So oh for the 752 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: rest of the week this week, Yeah, well, we'll have 753 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: the show here, We have the show today. Obviously, there's 754 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: a joint practice going on in Las Vegas. We're gonna 755 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: have Mike dou So called back in later and give 756 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: us an update as to how practice went. Another joint 757 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: practice in Vegas tomorrow between the Patriots and Raiders all right, 758 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: what time you want tomorrow, Paul, same time. We won't 759 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: be on tomorrow, Um, it would be an off day 760 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: for the radio show. We will be back on Thursday 761 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: with our regular schedule, Yes, regular PU schedule from twelve 762 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: to two on Thursday, and then on Friday will be 763 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: the game. The game is eight fifteen local time, Eastern time. UM, 764 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: so we will do what did what did uh Mike say? 765 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what did Matt say? Five to seven forty five? 766 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: I believe our pregame social will be and then Freddie 767 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: will be out there in Vegas doing his blog. Yeah, okay, 768 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: all right, that's great. Alright, John, take care, all right, John, 769 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: Thanks John. I didn't realize John grew up in my 770 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: neck of the I thought we were gonna have a 771 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: episode of stock. I stopped it. We could have we 772 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: could have gotten main streets and back. Yeah, yeah, I 773 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: mean I don't know how we ended up on Cherry Street. 774 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 1: Speaking of um back roads. Driving back to the Cape yesterday, 775 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was pouring really got to the Otis 776 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: Rotary because I had to go to Falmouth. It was 777 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: flooded and the water was like up to my door. Wow, 778 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: it was like a river. And you have like one 779 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: of those electric vehicles. Yeah you're not, and then like 780 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: two that you were going to be electrocuted. It's a hybrid. 781 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: But two hours later everything was gone. I just need 782 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: to correct that. I know that that was not right. Okay, 783 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: I was just making a snarky joke. I don't need 784 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: to be added. It's okay by the extreme left. But 785 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: like two hours later it was all gone. But at home, 786 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: the guy diagonally across from me has he created the 787 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: second driveway and he put all these wood chips in there. 788 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: They were everywhere, so the wood chips, the rain just 789 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: took him right out right into my front line. That 790 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: is a problem. Yeah, that is a problem. I experience 791 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: it once a while. I haven't like some of those 792 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: extended drain pipes that I use, and they generally do 793 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: the trick. But when you get the really heavy rain 794 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Forget it. It was it was it was 795 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: like end times yesterday for a couple hours between like 796 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: two and four. It was unbelievable. Was it was it 797 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: raining hard? Here? Well? I was. You were in my office, 798 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: so I really don't know. Okay, all right, but I 799 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: missed the memo that no one was working yesterday. I 800 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: had things to do. I was working, believe me, No, 801 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: I just U. I had a couple of things I 802 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about, just like random stuff 803 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: like this born in Trent Brown thing, and I kept going, 804 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: I kept coming here. Off was like, Ah, he's not 805 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: coming in. Let's see, Tyler writes in Big Fan of 806 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: the Show, long time listener, first time emailer. He doesn't 807 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: say where, though. Malcolm Brown was released from the Jags 808 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: last week. What do we think of potentially adding him 809 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: back to the team. Solid career with the Patriots and 810 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: started all seventeen games for the Jags last year. Just 811 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: wanted your thoughts on that and the D line situation. 812 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: I have no interest in Malcolm. Yeah, I don't think 813 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: he was a bust all of a sudden. The D 814 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: line looks pretty good. I mean they've played really well. Yeah, 815 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I don't know how good it is, 816 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: but they've played really well in this Yeah. I can't 817 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: argue with that. You know, like, Godcha has been really good. 818 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: Bar Moore I think is a blossoming star. I think 819 00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise and Lawrence Guy have been complimentary. I don't 820 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: really Carl Davis is a guy who's made a bunch 821 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: of plays. I'm not sure I have a spot for him. Yeah, 822 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: I think he could make it. Henry Anderson, I think 823 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: it is in a lot of trouble. I don't think 824 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: they necessarily need more than that. I think it's going 825 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: to come down to some of the younger guys who 826 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: they decide that they might not be able to squeak 827 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: onto the practice squad and who you know, Sam Roberts, 828 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: Lebryan Ray to Marcus Mitchell, these guys, you know who's 829 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: a special teamer who might be able to get to 830 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: the practice squad, and otherwise you stick with the veteran. Ye. 831 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: All right, Paul's food is here, so we're gonna take 832 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: a break and we'll be right back after Paul's want 833 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: to get into the game. 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It's only worth it if you 1024 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: enjoy it and your responsibly, Abe Michael of Ultra Light 1025 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: Beer Singlisma's door had the patrins with another takeaway, He'll 1026 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: do it. Keep drop by Walker scream one underneath had 1027 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: hit immediately, Fatley diagnosed it and Juan Petley later that 1028 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: defense with a blood now the Panther's because of his work, 1029 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: takes a second down and fourteen the like blender crack 1030 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,240 Speaker 1: runs out a Locker had mid middle early on this series, 1031 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: had a kid and hit with the run on the middle, 1032 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 1: pack down Morrell uck not three by blood, so it's 1033 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: gonna be incomplete. Stephen Sullivan could not hold on and 1034 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,360 Speaker 1: there was pressure there. The Patriots brought Wilson among others. 1035 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: That pass rush makes a good throw. That's so I say, okay, 1036 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,959 Speaker 1: you catch never know, scoop that thing to take off 1037 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, who's gonna toss the challenge? You know what? 1038 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: Our first of the preseason, y'all Patriots, let's stay here 1039 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: and check this out. The receiver didn't complete the process 1040 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: of the case. They crumble the ball, which is recovered 1041 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: by New England. Now Henry with some pressure walkers drive pack, 1042 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: creak on the ball coming back the other way, hits 1043 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: sean way across the forty. Smith waits on the bailey, 1044 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: clut in this water directed toward the corner. Bounce from 1045 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: the five and I can get left up the cat 1046 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: laying out by little Jordan Umpy to knock the ball 1047 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: back to the three yard gone and saw you stick around, guys. 1048 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: He make your place, kit and this is gonna be 1049 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: a safe kat. There you go, del Marcus Mitchell had 1050 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots shot up the pair. It's not a safety, 1051 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 1: gets a bumble and a touchdown and now a point 1052 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: after dry by this guy, you know. So Robert's back 1053 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: there with a fumble recovery and the Patriots win the score. 1054 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: And now Walker with a throw picked off by schooler 1055 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: center field at the ten, had the Patrids with another takeaway. 1056 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: I'll do it all right. That's the uh first Matt 1057 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: Morrell mashup preseason. Yeah, it wasn't enough, Paul. Unfortunately, we 1058 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: can't have the perfect perfect season this year because they 1059 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: lost that first preseason game. But I'm still hoping for 1060 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: the regular season. Sure, yeah, until they lose one. Freddy. 1061 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm the guy who watches baseball and if 1062 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: the guy gets you know, one, two, three, INNI, I'm like, 1063 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: perfect game so far. I say it right away, Okay, Yeah, 1064 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: I know people don't like that. It's you know, really 1065 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: bad juju. When you're not supposed to talk about it. 1066 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 1: I talk about it. It's nonsense, all right. Eight five 1067 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: five five hundred is the Ace Ticket hut Line web 1068 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com. People scared to call today, 1069 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: but because it's me and Paul, but they are emailing it. 1070 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,439 Speaker 1: A lot of people emailing it, so well, let's get 1071 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: to them. Scott and Virginia says, do you guys feel 1072 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: like the Patriots will and should trade for alignment before 1073 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: the season starts? I know there are ideas of when 1074 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: being traded, but at this point, the old line may 1075 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 1: be the weak link on this team, and it would 1076 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: be odd if Bill kept it that way. No. I mean, like, 1077 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: do I think they're gonna trade for a starting offensive line? Yeah? No, 1078 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: why because I don't think they're in general, they're available. 1079 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,439 Speaker 1: But do you think you think if Bill really does, 1080 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: if he agrees that the offensive line is the weak link, 1081 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: you don't think he'd do something about that? Well, I 1082 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: think he could trade for aligneman. Yeah, but I'm talking 1083 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: about a starting caliber offensive one. What about just a 1084 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: ligneman who's better than what you've got. I don't think 1085 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: you can do that. I don't think you. I mean, 1086 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: the only one I would say about is I don't 1087 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: know is strange because he's a rookie. I've never seen 1088 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: him play, right, so I can't you know, if he 1089 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: can't play, we're in big trouble. Yeah. See, but I 1090 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: even think if quote unquote he can't play. Yeah, it'll 1091 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: be okay. I mean, just a guard. That's my whole point. No, 1092 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't, I disagree wholeheartedly. I mean, if we got 1093 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: a first round pick who can't play, we got a 1094 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: quite big question mark at right tackle. And I'm telling 1095 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: you you're not going to know that until his third year, 1096 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: when they decide not to pick up his fifty year options. Well, 1097 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: you'll see it. It'll be, it'll be, it'll just look 1098 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: not right, and you'll have David Andrews yelling on the sideline. 1099 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 1: You'll know, you'll know, crossing my fingers, it's not the case. 1100 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: Kevin and Maryland. On Friday, Paul mentioned that Marshall Newhouse 1101 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: is the kind of guy you can right now for 1102 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 1: tackle depth. I was wondering what you guys thought of 1103 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: Nate Solder. Would you consider him in new House's category 1104 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: of tackle or would you say he would add good depth? 1105 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Nobody has lived here before. Yeah, that's the kind of 1106 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: guy that I'm talking about. Yep, is Solder and upgrade 1107 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: right now to what they've got? No? Yeah, a yeah? 1108 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Now would he be better than Hernic could? Just maybe maybe? Yeah? 1109 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: You know, I know he didn't play well recently with 1110 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: the Giants. Sergio is from Mexico. He says, I got 1111 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: a question regarding some fifty three man projections I've been reading. Yeah, 1112 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people add Brendan Schooler and 1113 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: even a little Jordan Humphrey or Joshua Bledsoe. But in 1114 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: all scenarios they keep Davis in Beth Bethel. Obviously Slater 1115 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: is a lot. But do you see a world in 1116 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: which Bill cuts Davis, Bethel or both for some younger 1117 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: prospects on special teams. I think that that's the way 1118 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: it should be, but I don't think that will happen. Yeah, 1119 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, both of those guys that are involved in 1120 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: everything that they do special teams wise, the entirety of 1121 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the summer. Oh, we didn't mention they cut Dalton Keene. Yeah, 1122 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 1: and they cut Elliott who j Elliott and the guy 1123 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: that they just signed number forty three. I can't think 1124 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: of his name now. I kind of liked Elliott Widameyer. 1125 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: They didn't cut him, No, no, no no, he just got here. 1126 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: You know, Elliot showed a lot of speed on the field. 1127 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: But I guess yeah then Keene, I mean, he's just 1128 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 1: hasn't been able to do it. He's one of those 1129 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 1: guys that just never ever wield right, could never get 1130 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: it going. I can't tell you he can't play. I've 1131 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: never really seen him get a chance because he's always hurt. 1132 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,919 Speaker 1: U and Sergio also says, by the way, Boston cream 1133 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: donuts are the best fried thing ever invented. I don't 1134 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 1: think at all Boston cream a lot of support. I 1135 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: don't like Boston Cream donuts, and I don't like Boston 1136 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: cream pie. How cream pie is just tremendous. Oh, it's 1137 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 1: just too much. It's too too much. This guy. Yeah, 1138 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he los, loses a couple of pounds, 1139 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: and now he's scoffed at all. I never liked Boston 1140 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: cream pie. All the things that are great and like, 1141 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: I like German chocolate cake, but they why don't you? 1142 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: I want to see if I can get a reaction 1143 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: from Matt Morrel. He turned around as if to get 1144 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: not of approval from Matt after he said I like 1145 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: German chocolate cake. Decide not. It's a good cake. It 1146 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: is a good cake. It's excellent cake. What's your favorite pie? 1147 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Paal Well, probably Boston cream but a lot a huge 1148 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 1: pie guy, Boston Cream is your favorite pie? Oh? Maybe, well, 1149 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I like keyl I don't really like 1150 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: pie all that much. Really, you don't like apple pie. 1151 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: I love apple, cherry blueberry. I like lemon meringue. I 1152 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: can eat lemon meringue, and I like key lime. Yeah, 1153 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: but I have not a huge I'm not not huge 1154 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: in the pie. Sorry, Okay, that's a muff. Let's go 1155 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: what what what you know? I tried not to scot 1156 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: it up. I tried not to laugh. Originally screwed it up. 1157 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: What can I say? I like apple, That's my favorite. 1158 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: Good apple pie. Mum Suliman in the Bay Area rights 1159 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: in with little Jordan Humphrey making plays on special teams 1160 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 1: and offense in the preseason, notably the effort on the 1161 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: punt last week. Do you see him taking Thornton's spot 1162 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: temporarily while he's injured, or do you see him taking 1163 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 1: a special team spot from Cody Davis justin Bethel. It's 1164 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: has been well talked about by Paul, but there's a 1165 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: surplus of special team players on this team, and it's 1166 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: becoming unnecessary when considering the lack of talent on offense. 1167 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: Humphrey can actually bring a presence on offense as an 1168 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: option plus a player on special team. Okay, so Humphrey 1169 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I think has the edge because I think he has 1170 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: the size to be a contributor on special teams. At 1171 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: six three sixty four to twenty five two thirty, I 1172 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 1: think he has the size to maybe be a little 1173 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: bit of a hybrid guy that can fill roles, maybe 1174 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: as an extra tight end, maybe as a you know, 1175 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. If you're let's not get this, I mean, 1176 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion, if you disagree, you tell me if 1177 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 1: Humphrey makes the team, it's because he's going to play 1178 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 1: special teams. No, Okay, he's not going to be in 1179 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 1: your top four receivers, so he's not going to get 1180 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: on the field. He's not like Thornton where he's going 1181 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: to be knocking on the door to push someone out 1182 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: of the top four. No. But so you're saying he'll 1183 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,919 Speaker 1: make the team as a special teamer. No, I'm saying 1184 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: that's what he'll play. Oh, he'll play special teams, but 1185 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 1: he will play receiver a little bit. I think he 1186 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: will absolutely. Nope, he'll play as much receiver as Cody 1187 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 1: Davis play safety. Well, I disagree with that, and in 1188 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: both cases only in emergencies with multiple injuries. Now I think, um, 1189 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: he's not getting on the field as a receiver. Over 1190 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: those other things, I think he's pretty versatile. I think you, 1191 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: like you said, maybe line him up as a tight end. 1192 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: I think you can use it again if you get injuries. Yes, 1193 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 1: he's not playing over Henry or Smith. He's not playing 1194 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: over born. I think if he's on the Meyers. I 1195 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: think if he's on the forty five man roster on 1196 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: game day, you'll see him on the field. You'll see 1197 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 1: him as a gunner and that's what you'll see it. 1198 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: And I think you'll see him line up. My point being, 1199 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: and again it's okay, I'm really starting to get freaked 1200 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,439 Speaker 1: out by the hit the switch, I hit the swill. Okay, 1201 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: yause that's been happening in a lot that wasn't a 1202 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 1: power search. Um yeah, no, I mean you you disagree. 1203 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that he offers you much potential as 1204 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: a receiver. I think he's not a kid. It's been 1205 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 1: around for a few years now, it's like a fourth year. 1206 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: That's fine. Um, I don't think he runs all that well. 1207 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 1: I think he has good size. He's an extra and 1208 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,439 Speaker 1: if he can play special teams, then you know there's 1209 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,959 Speaker 1: there's some value. I'm not saying that special teams isn't 1210 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 1: factoring into why they would pick him over he couldn't 1211 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 1: play special teams, he wouldn't make it. Yeah, okay, but 1212 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: I think I think that he wouldn't exclusively, and I 1213 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: think at his size he can. I think he could 1214 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: fit into some of those roles on special teams, whereas 1215 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: like a Trey Nixon. If Trey Nixon's on special teams, 1216 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 1: to me, it's as a returner. I don't think you're 1217 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 1: going to ask him necessarily to cover kicks and whatnot. Now, 1218 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 1: maybe he will, maybe he's you know, maybe he's got 1219 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: some of that potential. I haven't seen a lot of 1220 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: that from him. His special teams involvement has been as 1221 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 1: a returner. Let's go to Eldred in North Carolina. Hey Eldred, 1222 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Hey Paul Freed. How a two favorite guys? Hey that's right, thanks, Eldred, 1223 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 1: got that right, man. I didn't get to see the 1224 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: game because I'm mad blacked out, but really, you know, 1225 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: kick me. I saw a little bit on NFL Football 1226 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 1: or whatever the networks, But I just saw a little 1227 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: bit of it. Question about the cut guy, I'm with you, Fred, 1228 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I saw Elliot a couple of times. He flashed a 1229 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 1: little bit, yes, in the other corner. I can't understand 1230 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: why they cantalistic can put him on the practice squad. 1231 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 1: You don't get cut now. You don't get cut now 1232 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 1: if they want you in the practice squad. Who was 1233 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: the other corner? I forgot his name now, I forgot 1234 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 1: about because the guy they just resigned, he's only he 1235 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: was only back for like a week. Yeah, yeah, Brad Hawkins. Yeah, 1236 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 1: it's a numbers game, and I can see, you know, 1237 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Elliott getting cut. But I you know, he did flash 1238 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 1: a couple of times. I was like, okay, hey, this 1239 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 1: guy can he can move around the field. He's got 1240 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 1: a good nose for the ball. So I'm looking, I'm 1241 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 1: trying to look to find the names. Yeah, what do 1242 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: you think? What do you think we were talking about? 1243 01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 1: A little Jordan humph for you like him? You're a 1244 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver specialist, Devin Hap Yeah, I'm will definitely used 1245 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 1: him in there a little bit packing wide receiver. Yeah, 1246 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: you know he might might put not born but Maya's 1247 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: out a little bit, but I hope not because the 1248 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 1: Maya the favorite fan favorite. But so people think, I mean, 1249 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 1: in all seriousness, people think that little Jordan Humphrey can 1250 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 1: give you more offensively than Jacobe Meyers who said that people, 1251 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anyone say that. Okay, so then how 1252 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: is he playing? Then? Well, he doesn't have to give 1253 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 1: you more, he can just contribute. He has to be 1254 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 1: better than any of those four guys. I think Taekwon 1255 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: Thornton was knocking on the door of being better than 1256 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,600 Speaker 1: than than some of those guys. I don't necessarily, I 1257 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: don't think this guy has that ability. I don't think 1258 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 1: he has to be better than everybody. Then how many 1259 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: times do you play five receivers for once in a 1260 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 1: while five wide? But you don't put five wide receivers 1261 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 1: on the field when you go five wide. He's like 1262 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 1: a tight end though, Paul, that's the thing. So he's 1263 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: not better than Henry or Smith. So I don't want 1264 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: him on there, said of them either. All right, I 1265 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 1: think he's gonna see the field if he makes the team. 1266 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: I think though too, But I don't know what thing 1267 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: though too. I just think that would only be because 1268 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 1: of injuries. Injuries maybe, like I didn't get to see 1269 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 1: the game, I didn't know. Reports are that he fractured 1270 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: his clavical hmm, eight to nine weeks yea, yeah, I 1271 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,960 Speaker 1: mean again, these are reports, nothing, nothing official. But yeah, 1272 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 1: that's the that's the word. Well, I like that too. 1273 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: I do too. I like what I've seen from Thornton. Yeah, 1274 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm as optimistic about him as I have been about 1275 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: a young receiver. And yeah, it's a real blow, it 1276 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: really is. It's just gonna well, one more question. I 1277 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna let y'all go. I know we are receiver tight, 1278 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,680 Speaker 1: but if did Jet cut me him, would you take 1279 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: a flower on first round pick two years ago? A 1280 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,680 Speaker 1: year ago? Yeah, I think it was a second I 1281 01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: think it was a second round pick. But yeah, I 1282 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 1: would take a first round would be oh, okay, I 1283 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 1: would take a I would definitely take a flight around him. 1284 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,440 Speaker 1: Why are they going to come? All right? Thank you? 1285 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 1: He's been a disappointment, Okay, and they they've got replacements. Uh, 1286 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 1: let's go to Dan in Virginia in Michigan. What's up, Dan? Hey, 1287 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 1: it's the Ogs of the OG podcast, Right, you got 1288 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:29,600 Speaker 1: that right? Second round the world's original right exactly. I 1289 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:34,640 Speaker 1: got two questions. First, one is falling on the Thornton question. Uh, 1290 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: I know he's got a claviical but I haven't heard 1291 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: exactly how the injury happened. And um, I hate to 1292 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 1: be a wet blanket, but there was a lot of 1293 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: concern about his size, um and whether or not he 1294 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: was going to last long in the league. Is this 1295 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 1: claviical injury? Um? As this say bad foreshadowing of those 1296 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,720 Speaker 1: concerns possibly being born out in his career. And the 1297 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: other question I got is, um, so we've got the 1298 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 1: two of you, You've uh that you've been working together 1299 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: a long time? What do you want? And pop culture 1300 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 1: would best sum up your relationship? You know? Is that 1301 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: you Butch Cassidy and Sun Dance Kid or Tom and 1302 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: Jerry or Batman and Robin Mutton Jeff Mutton, Jeff, Yeah, 1303 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know lethal weapon. Oh that's 1304 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. 1305 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 1: Well Batman and Robin Yeah, sorry, Fred, I was just 1306 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: trying to get got for the Thornton. But I will 1307 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,679 Speaker 1: say Dan having a costello that's more to answer. Daryl 1308 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 1: Hardy to answer Dan's question, I mean, I think you 1309 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: have to say, yeah, it is concerning, it is I 1310 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 1: think he I think he was hurt on the one 1311 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 1: catch that he had. He got tackled and was under 1312 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: a pilot of the the gang, the gang cast But like, 1313 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 1: but you didn't see it, No, you did. He stayed 1314 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: in the game too, right, But you know, getting tackled 1315 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: and breaking your collar bone when you were you know, 1316 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 1: slight frame, slightly built kind of a guy, is not like, 1317 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 1: oh now I'm not worried anymore. No, I'm more Usually 1318 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 1: those those clavical collarbone injuries happen when they land on 1319 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: it or land on their shoulder. Yeah, And I would 1320 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,679 Speaker 1: have to go back and look at the tackle itself 1321 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 1: to see if someone landed on him. Yeah, because I 1322 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean a little bit of an expert on the 1323 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: fractured clavical did it both sides, And one was the 1324 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 1: way you're describing, like sort of landed on my shoulder right. 1325 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,599 Speaker 1: Another one I got pile driven right into the ground 1326 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 1: with a helmet right on my collar bone. Yeah, so 1327 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: I I did. But the left one in my sophomore 1328 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,679 Speaker 1: year of high school, the right one in my junior 1329 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: year of high school. So clavical is not one of 1330 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 1: those injuries where you break it and then it kind 1331 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 1: of comes back a little stronger. Wow. Well, I mean 1332 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,560 Speaker 1: I never rebroke either one of them, so who knows, 1333 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 1: Paul said. Paul's coach always said he was a pain 1334 01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: in the neck, and you know, all right they did, no. 1335 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 1: But I mean it is you know when you talk about, 1336 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 1: oh can the guy hold up, and then he's already hurt, right, 1337 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's like, oh, you're being negative. No, 1338 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean there's questions about his size and then he 1339 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 1: doesn't even make it through the summer without breaking a bone, right, Yep. 1340 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 1: That's caused for concerns, it is, And maybe this is 1341 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: he'll never get hurt again. But he's alright. Maybe that's 1342 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 1: why you got him and everybody else thought he'd be 1343 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 1: available in the fourth or fifth round. Yep, yep. Uh, 1344 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: let's see Mark writes in He says, uh, glen Dale 1345 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 1: pack lived on Elm Street. Paul, do you remember let 1346 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Us is let Us is greg go, Pats let Us 1347 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 1: is greg I don't know what that means, Paul, Do 1348 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 1: you remember let Us is greg Go? Pats let Us 1349 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: is greg I don't know what that place. That's so 1350 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 1: let us. I don't know what that area. Maybe it 1351 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 1: was like a code word to get in some kind 1352 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 1: of a club that I was not privy too. I 1353 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know either. You have to because 1354 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 1: I have frequented some of those kinds of clubs. You'll 1355 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 1: have to. You'll have to email us backmark and definitely 1356 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: I'm interested in that. But I do know ELM Street. Well, 1357 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 1: let's see David writes in and Bethlehem. I could be 1358 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 1: imagining things, But I wonder if when and Bourne have 1359 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 1: contracted diva itis excuse me, like Gilmore had when he 1360 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: was hurt, didn't want to play but wanted a new 1361 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,720 Speaker 1: top tier contract that its performance wouldn't match. This is 1362 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,680 Speaker 1: looking like pro athletes version of work, slow labor union tactics. 1363 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get bogged down in details of 1364 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 1: things that don't really matter to the point of his email, 1365 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 1: But when exactly did Gilmore's contract not matches? There were people, 1366 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Paul your people and that last year that said he's 1367 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: just not as good as he used to be. And 1368 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't you know, no one said that. People did. 1369 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 1: Oh yes they did, Yes they did. They didn't. They 1370 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: were still pissed that they let him go last year. 1371 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Well that was the that was the prevailing opinion was 1372 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: that there was a mistake to let him go last year. 1373 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: That's what I said, right, But so let's not that's 1374 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 1: what you think. So let's not say because there was 1375 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 1: like some voice in the wilderness that said, um, excuse me, 1376 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he is equal to that that that contract. 1377 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 1: People said that, people played up. He played up to 1378 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,400 Speaker 1: that contract that he signed, and then people said it, 1379 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Paul, now he's a little older, now, 1380 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,799 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you don't want to give him another contract. 1381 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,280 Speaker 1: And he didn't get another one. It was just a one. 1382 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 1: I think he signed a one year deal right with 1383 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: the Colts. Yea. You know, so maybe he's not in 1384 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,719 Speaker 1: line now in his thirties to get another big contract. 1385 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 1: But the one that Belichick, that's one of Belichick's best 1386 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 1: free agent signings ever. He gave a guy a top 1387 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 1: of the market deal and the guy lived up to it. 1388 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: Let's go to Todd, North Carolina. What's up, Todd? Hey, guys, Hey, 1389 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm just here to complain a little bit about the 1390 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,639 Speaker 1: Perillo on activities lately, you know, not understanding that I'd 1391 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 1: already heard that Win was on the there's a possibility 1392 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,720 Speaker 1: that to look at the trade win and that's kind 1393 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 1: of what it sept my postgame email about. I'm worried 1394 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 1: about that side of the old line, right, Yeah, this 1395 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 1: is just extending my streak. I have absolutely no idea 1396 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Fred has been talking. Fred has 1397 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 1: been talking about trading Isaiah Win for like a year 1398 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,599 Speaker 1: and a half, like like like possibly you were doing 1399 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 1: it up the whole offseason. I know, But but my 1400 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: recent thing is when he wasn't playing. Oh yeah, that 1401 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 1: was your theory. That's why it's right, right to which 1402 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I still disagree with that. Yeah, 1403 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 1: And the fact that he came back with a red 1404 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 1: shirt on it tells me he was hurt or that 1405 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 1: they still want to keep him clean because there still 1406 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 1: might be a trade. Well, then you wouldn't have him 1407 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 1: practicing at all if you were trying to keep him cleaning. 1408 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 1: Put him on a red shirt just in case he 1409 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 1: has to play with us. Okay, Yeah, Now, my my 1410 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 1: next question might cause little angst. But some of the 1411 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 1: I guess not some nice people and on Fox kind 1412 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: of came out and Sport said that, you know, obviously 1413 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 1: it was seventy thirty Brady to Belichick, and I was 1414 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 1: thinking about it for a while and my take on it, 1415 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 1: for the first three Super Bowls they were together as 1416 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 1: kind of I think it was more Bill than Brady. 1417 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,599 Speaker 1: Brady was kind of a game manager at that time, 1418 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,919 Speaker 1: and then the last three it was Brady. So maybe 1419 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 1: it worked out closer to fifty fifty. I just want 1420 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,760 Speaker 1: to take your get your guys take on that, because 1421 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 1: you guys are the team, your members of the team. 1422 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,640 Speaker 1: To me, yeah, that's fair to me. That's a good 1423 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 1: That assessment makes sense to me, And that's todd. That 1424 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,640 Speaker 1: makes sense to me because early in Brady's career he 1425 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 1: didn't have all the answers, um, and he wasn't the 1426 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: player that he was later on mentally. UM, So that's 1427 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: that's fair. I think I would say the first one 1428 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 1: was more Bill. After I mean the very next year 1429 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, Tom Brady led the league 1430 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: in touchdown passes. Yeah, so Tom Brady didn't need to 1431 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:57,480 Speaker 1: be in to twenty fourteen before you know, he was responsible. 1432 01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, but like he got good fast. But 1433 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 1: you could say general manager Bill you know, built a 1434 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 1: defense that in two thousand and three, two thousand and four, 1435 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 1: if the Patriots had a seven point leader more the 1436 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,519 Speaker 1: game was over. That wasn't Tom Brady. That was you know, 1437 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 1: overall team. I don't know, they had a great team. 1438 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,440 Speaker 1: I didn't say that they didn't have a great team. Yeah, 1439 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, I'm not giving the coach the credit 1440 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: for the quarterback who led the league in touchdown passes. No, 1441 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 1: that's fun. But like in two thousand and one, Tom 1442 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: Brady wasn't yet but a masterful job. But in oh three, 1443 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,640 Speaker 1: oh four they were great on right, defense has a 1444 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,559 Speaker 1: much great great teams and much of a reason that 1445 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 1: they won as the offense two thousand and four especially 1446 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:43,839 Speaker 1: just a absolutely stacked so both sides of the ball. Yeah, 1447 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,439 Speaker 1: I listen. I always said that each of them made 1448 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 1: the other better. They were both great in their own rights, 1449 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,559 Speaker 1: but each of them brought the other to new heights. 1450 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,479 Speaker 1: And you know, listen right now, the evidence there is 1451 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,600 Speaker 1: that you know it was more Brady because of what 1452 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 1: Brady's done afterwards. It Yeah, and you'll never hear me 1453 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,920 Speaker 1: tell you that Belichick didn't know what he was doing. 1454 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 1: You know what, the Belichick had a big part in 1455 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,679 Speaker 1: their winning. And what's easier to be a top notch 1456 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 1: quarterback and go to a team that has a lot 1457 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,479 Speaker 1: of weapons and win a Super Bowl, or be a 1458 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 1: top match coach, lose your best player and then go 1459 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 1: back to the Super Bowl. What's easier to do? I 1460 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I kind of feel like I'm still talking 1461 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 1: to Todd. I have no idea what we're talking about. Okay, 1462 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: like top not I don't know, like what what feat 1463 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 1: is easier? You know, to start over at quarterback as 1464 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 1: a head coach and then immediately go to a super 1465 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,640 Speaker 1: Bowl or as a you know, the top quarterback, go 1466 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 1: to another team with weapons and go to a Super Bowl. 1467 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: What's what's easier? I think roughly the same. I don't 1468 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,840 Speaker 1: like you you're telling me that. I mean, if you 1469 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 1: just just changing teams and going to a team first year, 1470 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,599 Speaker 1: you know, after being in the league for twenty years, 1471 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 1: that's easy. I didn't say it was easy. I didn't 1472 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: say it was easy. I said which is easier? You know, 1473 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 1: which is more likely? Probably the quarterback going to the 1474 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, So of course it is. But you're also 1475 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: making it sound like Bill did the other one. Yeah, 1476 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 1: he didn't and he won't. No, of course, no, it 1477 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have a quarterback. Now you can 1478 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,599 Speaker 1: blame Bill the GM for that not having the backup plan, 1479 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 1: but you're also making it out to be their quarterback 1480 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 1: away from the Super Bowl. They're not like, let's this 1481 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 1: isn't on mac Jones. He was fine last year. No, 1482 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 1: I don't blame it on it. I'm just saying that, 1483 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's what what was being asked of Bill 1484 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,599 Speaker 1: immediately after Tom Brady left was probably harder than what 1485 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Brady did. And I'm not taking anything away from what 1486 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Brady did. It was amazing and the fact that they 1487 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,519 Speaker 1: were in the running the next year as well and 1488 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 1: probably will be there this year too. You know, it's 1489 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 1: it's it's Brady Brady. It's the greatest. Like, I don't 1490 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,559 Speaker 1: see why you have to like diminish Brady by propping 1491 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,680 Speaker 1: up Bill. I agree, you know, I agree, And I 1492 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,920 Speaker 1: don't diminish Bill by proper bring up Brady. Yeah, um, 1493 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 1: Speis and Fresno, what's up space by getting really weird today? 1494 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Oh Wowob you know, by the way, I joined AARP 1495 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,680 Speaker 1: like four years ago, right, Yeah, because they had a 1496 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,760 Speaker 1: free gift. It was like a bag, travel bag. The 1497 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,680 Speaker 1: bag was app The bag was like so such a 1498 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 1: piece of crap that I wait, you mean the free 1499 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,719 Speaker 1: gift for signing up quality. It was such a piece 1500 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 1: of crap that I never joined again. I relinquished my 1501 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 1: membership for a arp h all. The discounts at the 1502 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,000 Speaker 1: movie theaters isn't worth that disrespect of a bag that 1503 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 1: they sent me. That's fine. I'm not impress today. What 1504 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 1: is that that You're great moments in Freddy history? Oh? Man, 1505 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 1: on what you're guys are just talking about it? I mean, yeah, 1506 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,519 Speaker 1: but fred what what Brady has done since he left 1507 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 1: is more impressive than what Bill has done left? Oh? 1508 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely no. That's why I said it the way I 1509 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,559 Speaker 1: did when he was like, you make it sound like, 1510 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, Bill's a breath away and just needs a quarterback. 1511 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 1: But here, but but but let's put it in another way. 1512 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,360 Speaker 1: If if Bill had won a Super Bowl with Cam 1513 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 1: Newton and Brady had won a Super Bowl with the 1514 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,519 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which of those feats would have been 1515 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 1: more impressive? Probably Bill, But I'd have to see what happened. Yeah, 1516 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,439 Speaker 1: I would say that that Bill would be the harder job. Yeah, 1517 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 1: on its on its surface, but you also you're really 1518 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,720 Speaker 1: glossing over like how bad Tampa Bay was, Like just 1519 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 1: because they had a couple of good players doesn't mean 1520 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,920 Speaker 1: that they were a super Bowl team. People said they 1521 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 1: made them a Super Bowl too. Well, people, I know 1522 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 1: what people say because people hate Brady just like they 1523 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 1: hate Bill. I know. But people said that they had 1524 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: talent the year before, but they just had but they 1525 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 1: shocked and Brady brought in the culture that's not easy, 1526 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,519 Speaker 1: and they brought in and into me this as honestly 1527 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 1: as you can. Yeah, be honest, please, please be honest. 1528 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: Does Aaron Rodgers go to Tampa and win in Super Bowl? Yes? 1529 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,960 Speaker 1: I see that. You can't be intellectually honest. What he 1530 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,439 Speaker 1: can't win win his own team? Oh? I I think 1531 01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,920 Speaker 1: he would have the ability to win this. You just 1532 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:25,519 Speaker 1: like gloss over words like culture, like they're ingrained my rights. 1533 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:30,120 Speaker 1: Be like to just sit there and say, Brady inherited 1534 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,240 Speaker 1: the best team in football and that's the only reason 1535 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 1: why he won well, and they also brought in one 1536 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,960 Speaker 1: of the worst coaches with one of the worst franchises 1537 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,840 Speaker 1: with a losing attitude and completely transformed him overnight. Yeah, 1538 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,720 Speaker 1: he's got to do it all for that red faced dummy, 1539 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,120 Speaker 1: as my brother likes to call Bruce Are. I don't 1540 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 1: think I'm being dishonest by thinking that Aaron Rodgers could 1541 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,840 Speaker 1: have gone there with the same talent with Gronk. And like, 1542 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 1: you want to tell me Peyton Manning could have done it, 1543 01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,600 Speaker 1: I'll say yes, because Peyton Manning had that kind of 1544 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 1: culture yea inherent in his ability. You want to tell me, like, 1545 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 1: as much as I make fun of Drew Brees for 1546 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,680 Speaker 1: not being one of the great, he might have been 1547 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 1: able to do it, Okay, because I think he's got Decca. 1548 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers All right, Nope, but you just mentioned some 1549 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,759 Speaker 1: other Aaron Rodgers ain't going somewhere and changing the culture. 1550 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,120 Speaker 1: He's making the culture work. Okay, But you kind of 1551 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: made the point that like a great quarterback with the 1552 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,960 Speaker 1: right mindset could do what Brady did. Yeah, but but 1553 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about the great again with the right mindset, 1554 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 1: Like that's nothing. He has perhaps, until right now, the 1555 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,839 Speaker 1: greatest mindset in the history of sports. Well not, according 1556 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,160 Speaker 1: to Andy. I said, until right now, Andy said weird. 1557 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 1: Andy said he lost the mindset when he stopped going 1558 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,840 Speaker 1: to OTA's. Remember that. Yeah, but he got reinvigorated when 1559 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 1: everybody told him he couldn't do it. Remember that Now, 1560 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,000 Speaker 1: Now I don't know what he's thinking. You don't have 1561 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,559 Speaker 1: to sell me on Tom Brady. I know you kissed him, 1562 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:55,519 Speaker 1: ye swapping spit. You like really struggled to come back 1563 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Like I always thought that that 1564 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 1: was like a microcosm of why he wouldn't be a 1565 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 1: guy that could. Well, that's true. Like his record in 1566 01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,479 Speaker 1: comebacks is not good. Yeah, yeah, I got a Bill's 1567 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 1: question A hop hop. I have this weird thing now 1568 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,320 Speaker 1: where I used to when the patients were good, I 1569 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 1: used to, uh find Bill's attitude and press comforts it's 1570 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 1: funny and just entertaining. Now I think it's completely annoying, 1571 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Like the way that he spoke to Phil Perry saying 1572 01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 1: it's a process. It just it seems so stupid. Well, 1573 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,800 Speaker 1: that's the thing I just said. I started chuckling because 1574 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate the brutal honesty that speeches showed. When 1575 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 1: when when we were winning the Super Bowl every year, 1576 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,280 Speaker 1: I used to chuckle at it. Right now I realized 1577 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 1: why everybody thought he was a duce. Well, that's the thing, 1578 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 1: you know. It's like when you're winning, you don't care, 1579 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 1: but like when you're losing, as a fan, you want 1580 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 1: your coach to be as upset as you are. And 1581 01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,920 Speaker 1: I would say the same exact thing in terms of, 1582 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,200 Speaker 1: well he's upset, like I know, but I would say 1583 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,519 Speaker 1: the same exactly. You want answers, you know, like as 1584 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 1: a fan, I don't really care are about that stuff 1585 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,479 Speaker 1: when when I win, and that's fine, it's not about 1586 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 1: the media for me as a fan, I agree, But 1587 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 1: when I when I have questions and I don't understand, 1588 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 1: like I thought, it was kind of laughable speed Friday 1589 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,639 Speaker 1: night on Twitter, people were talking about how much Bill 1590 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,519 Speaker 1: was laughing and the press confidence after the game. Do 1591 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,760 Speaker 1: you remember this bread we talked about the postgame show. Yeah, 1592 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 1: they didn't even get it. People that were talking about 1593 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 1: Bill smiling and laughing in the postgame press convent, they 1594 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,960 Speaker 1: were getting mocked and they didn't even get it. For 1595 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 1: him to stop that guy asking the question in the 1596 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,599 Speaker 1: middle and say I never said that. When the guy said, 1597 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 1: I know you you you're not really interested in talking 1598 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 1: about the offensive playoff, I never said that, and he 1599 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:48,200 Speaker 1: started laughing. He was mocking you, and you don't even 1600 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,719 Speaker 1: get it. You'd think he was just trying to have fun, 1601 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 1: like he was mocking you, and you think that he 1602 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:59,240 Speaker 1: was just laughing like he wasn't laughing. He was making 1603 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,280 Speaker 1: fun of you. He was laughing at you, not with you. Process. 1604 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,720 Speaker 1: What is the process? Like, what is Bill talking about? Well, 1605 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,040 Speaker 1: we don't know. The process is a buzzword to not 1606 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,960 Speaker 1: have to answer the question. Yeah, we don't know. The 1607 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,560 Speaker 1: process is the newest version. No, let's be I'm not 1608 01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: yelling at you. You got it exactly right in my mind. 1609 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,640 Speaker 1: I think Fred agrees um. And it's been interesting with 1610 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,200 Speaker 1: Fred the last couple of games because Fred's been down 1611 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,880 Speaker 1: here for the postgame show to listen to it live 1612 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 1: when we're when we're hearing it in, Fred's reaction is 1613 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 1: the same as what you're talking about right now, spe 1614 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,640 Speaker 1: So the process to me is the latest version of 1615 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, we'll do what's in the best interest of 1616 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 1: the team. It's a non answer that encompasses everything. Yeah, 1617 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,640 Speaker 1: he's process. Now, I hear that you that that that 1618 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 1: Jackie drop of her grunting. You guys used to play 1619 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,559 Speaker 1: all the time. That's what goes on in my head. Well, yeah, 1620 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 1: every single thing they're doing right now is a process, 1621 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,320 Speaker 1: every single thing. So it's an out, it's a it's 1622 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,320 Speaker 1: a you know, but don't you think it's just another 1623 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 1: one of those phrases that he uses as a crutch. 1624 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm not going to answer the question. 1625 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,200 Speaker 1: What isn't a process? Everything's a process. But but it's 1626 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,679 Speaker 1: to me just like plug in, just replace we did 1627 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,840 Speaker 1: with we thought was in the best interesting exactly, That's 1628 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:11,920 Speaker 1: all it is. You know, Like someone asked him why 1629 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,920 Speaker 1: Kendrick Bowen didn't play the other night. He wasn't he 1630 01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: wasn't available to play, like that was his answer, something 1631 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: like that, like I know, well that's no no bleep, 1632 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 1: that one I don't care about because he's not here. 1633 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,360 Speaker 1: Why don't you say, I'm not going to get into that. Yeah, 1634 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,880 Speaker 1: well then you could do it that way too. You know. 1635 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 1: It's like it's a half off to a guy like 1636 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: Mike Reif who just for year in and year out 1637 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,519 Speaker 1: has to deal with this kind of garbage. I mean, 1638 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be as kind of a demoralizing job, 1639 01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,960 Speaker 1: and he's great. Anyway, I'll take it off all right, 1640 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,759 Speaker 1: thanks by five. Five past five hundred is the eighth ticket. 1641 01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,840 Speaker 1: Hut Line web radio at Patriots dot Com is the 1642 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 1: email address Mark writes back. He says, Greg, let us 1643 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 1: is Greg. He says, it was written on the wall 1644 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,559 Speaker 1: of the first balcony in Glendale Park and no one 1645 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,760 Speaker 1: ever knew what it meant. It's a mystery post. That's fine. 1646 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 1: That goes on. Was this like from like, uh, the 1647 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,240 Speaker 1: old days or is this more of a new thing? 1648 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,439 Speaker 1: I think it's see now that that wall is all gone, 1649 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 1: that's where they put the new high school. So it 1650 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,519 Speaker 1: had to be the old days. What No that it 1651 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,920 Speaker 1: could have easily been something from like the nineties. That 1652 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 1: would be like some guy Greg's old weed. Sounds right 1653 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,600 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I always go to the guys that 1654 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,479 Speaker 1: are into that sort of thing. Those answers, sure, But yeah, 1655 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,719 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of that. It used to be Glendale 1656 01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,559 Speaker 1: Park used to have a big hill on the side 1657 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,440 Speaker 1: fred and then there was like a couple of terraces, 1658 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,280 Speaker 1: and they would have like a parking lot, then a hill, 1659 01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,400 Speaker 1: and then a terrist and you'd have like basketball courts 1660 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,559 Speaker 1: and then a big wall and another another terrorist and 1661 01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,519 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, and it went all 1662 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,679 Speaker 1: the way up and that's where they sort of knocked 1663 01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 1: all that down and put a put the new high school. 1664 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:58,560 Speaker 1: Then Frank writes in your podcast is becoming unlistenable? Patriots 1665 01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:04,680 Speaker 1: Curmudgeon Radio still about Brady Belichick, nonsense and favorite desserts. Yeah, 1666 01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 1: that's all we've been talking about. Yeah, um, what are 1667 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:12,679 Speaker 1: you gonna do? That's all right? You know, so don't listen. 1668 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 1: You know what, you know what happens. You don't find 1669 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,280 Speaker 1: that people are more on edge when we sort of 1670 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 1: veer off the subject. Oh yeah, they you know why 1671 01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 1: why because they know they're not that Oh well, no, 1672 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,080 Speaker 1: I frustrating these things that used to be Like it's 1673 01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,080 Speaker 1: kind of like Speed just said, like, oh, it was 1674 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 1: great when we were winning and Bill was was not 1675 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,080 Speaker 1: giving us any answers. I thought it was funny, but 1676 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,479 Speaker 1: now it's not fun I think people feel that their 1677 01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,680 Speaker 1: time is valuable and they tune in to hear all 1678 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,720 Speaker 1: the answers to you know, why is there and we're 1679 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 1: talking about Isaiah Winn started right, and we're hearing about 1680 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Isaiah Win and the possibilities of him being traded. If 1681 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,280 Speaker 1: that's a good move or a bad move. I mean, 1682 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:54,760 Speaker 1: I think that has to do with the Patriots. We 1683 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 1: spent a good twenty five minutes talking about Isaiah Winn. 1684 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: You know why people are upset about that because he's 1685 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:02,920 Speaker 1: not that good. He was a first round pick and 1686 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,080 Speaker 1: they're talking about trading him in the fourth round in 1687 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 1: the in the fourth year. That's why he's making ten 1688 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:12,360 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Uh, keep listening, Frank, or don't. 1689 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,479 Speaker 1: It's up to you. Uh, Neil and New Brunswick. Uh, 1690 01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,880 Speaker 1: don't trade win, he says. I agree, he's averaged. But 1691 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,799 Speaker 1: if you trade your starting tackle three weeks before the season, 1692 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,439 Speaker 1: you're basically telling your fan base we don't think we 1693 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 1: have a chance of winning this year. I'm a thousand 1694 01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:30,120 Speaker 1: percent with Neil. Maybe that's true. Uh, Neil, Yeah, yeah, 1695 01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 1: I agree, Neil, maybe that's true. But at least we 1696 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,639 Speaker 1: have some hope. Also, we were recently in the USA 1697 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: after a three year pandemic hiatus. It was a reminder 1698 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,799 Speaker 1: that Tim Horton's donuts are so much better than Dunkin Donuts. 1699 01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 1: Crumbly yeah or not necessarily. Um, I don't want to 1700 01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: be careful here. They're a sponsor. We love our our friends. 1701 01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:56,000 Speaker 1: They're not known for the donuts. They're not great donuts. Yeah, 1702 01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,680 Speaker 1: I disagree. I eat a lot of donuts. I think 1703 01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,120 Speaker 1: dunt gets pretty good. Why did they why job I 1704 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:01,680 Speaker 1: dribed man? I think they are too, But why did 1705 01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,559 Speaker 1: they change their name from Dunkin Donuts just Duncan. That's 1706 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,519 Speaker 1: what New England just says instead of saying the full 1707 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:10,080 Speaker 1: we're lazy and they took the marketing. Some people said 1708 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,559 Speaker 1: double D. I have never heard that. You never heard 1709 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,120 Speaker 1: double D? No, you can honestly say, I've never heard 1710 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:19,040 Speaker 1: somebody referred to Duncan as everybody always just says dunks dunks. 1711 01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:23,599 Speaker 1: Dunks is popular. Yeah, yeah, I mean I've tried the others. 1712 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,480 Speaker 1: Duncan's the best for me because it's the coffee isn't angry, 1713 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,639 Speaker 1: you know, like I can tolerate it. Oh, the like 1714 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:35,000 Speaker 1: the coffee, yeah you're talking about yeah? Oh yeah, And 1715 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:36,960 Speaker 1: and I have I've never had really a problem with 1716 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:40,280 Speaker 1: Duncan Donuts. The donuts are fine. There's um. Growing up, 1717 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,960 Speaker 1: there was a Dunkin Donuts right on the corner of 1718 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,439 Speaker 1: my street, UM and it was one of the it 1719 01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,360 Speaker 1: was like one of the really old ones. It was 1720 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: one of the originals, remember the old like the light pink. 1721 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah logos they used to have to show it kind 1722 01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,639 Speaker 1: of went orange and brown. Yeah, yeah, that's we used 1723 01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,639 Speaker 1: to go to one in Cranston back in the day 1724 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,120 Speaker 1: when I was a little kid. Yeah, dunkin Donuts is 1725 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,640 Speaker 1: um Like I think they might be venturing into with 1726 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,439 Speaker 1: trying to do too many different things. Yeah, but I 1727 01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,599 Speaker 1: think like the breakfast sandwiches are pretty good. You get 1728 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,880 Speaker 1: like a baking egg and cheese on a bagel. Sure 1729 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,240 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Oh sure, you know it's not like 1730 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:17,640 Speaker 1: one of those you eat and you feel like you 1731 01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,400 Speaker 1: just had. Like I will say though that I thought 1732 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 1: they went they changed their cups in their lids. They 1733 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,160 Speaker 1: went from styre foam to you know, paper, and they 1734 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,400 Speaker 1: change their lids. And I thought the lids were the 1735 01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 1: problem for the leaks over the last couple of years. 1736 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 1: It's not. It's the cups. If the rim of the 1737 01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,519 Speaker 1: cup gets a little dent in it, it'll leak all 1738 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,639 Speaker 1: over the place. They gotta fix that. They gotta fix that. See, 1739 01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,200 Speaker 1: I have to take your word. I thought they had 1740 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: plastic like the plastic cups now, no, they have. It's 1741 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,719 Speaker 1: patience for ice. Let's talk about hot coffee. Hot coffee. 1742 01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,800 Speaker 1: They don't do that. Yeah, ok yeah, okay, yeah see 1743 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,479 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't drink coffee, so I don't. I 1744 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,000 Speaker 1: haven't run into you don't like coffee? Ever run into 1745 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,559 Speaker 1: your first world? You ever tried coffee? I have tried coffee, 1746 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,920 Speaker 1: and you just didn't like it. I don't like the taste. No, No, 1747 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,800 Speaker 1: I drink diet pepsie. I do like the taste of that. 1748 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,559 Speaker 1: That's where it banned straws in Rhode Island at Dunkin Donuts. 1749 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 1: You have to ask for your straw. Now. They won't 1750 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 1: just give you a straw. That's against the law. Now 1751 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 1: they don't even give you a paper straw. That's right, though, 1752 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:14,760 Speaker 1: you have to ask for it. But they should make 1753 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 1: their cups now with the drinkable lids, so right right. 1754 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 1: Some more info from Mark nineteen seventies or early eighties, 1755 01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,120 Speaker 1: written on the wall on the first balcony. Last time 1756 01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned it. You guys are the first and the 1757 01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:31,360 Speaker 1: very best. I think Born is a must stay. He 1758 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,960 Speaker 1: was our best or second best at least last year. 1759 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 1: I think with Thornton's injury. I agree with with Mark, 1760 01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,040 Speaker 1: and that makes sense to me that his time frame, 1761 01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 1: because he sounds like he's around the same age as me. Um. 1762 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 1: It's funny. I just never noticed it. So I didn't 1763 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,080 Speaker 1: live down that part of the city though, So I 1764 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 1: wasn't there like hanging out all the time. Well you 1765 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 1: would notice stuff like that. Yeah, I lived near Evert 1766 01:34:55,320 --> 01:35:00,759 Speaker 1: Stadium and we did not graffiti our walls. Christen Sacred Ground, 1767 01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Short Memorial Stadium, Chris and Virginia. How is Cleveland Stadium? 1768 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,080 Speaker 1: I was supposed to go up to the Patriots Colts 1769 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 1: game in November, but it's ten days before my wife's 1770 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,799 Speaker 1: due date. That might be cutting it close. So instead 1771 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,839 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the Browns game. I was just wondering 1772 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,200 Speaker 1: how that stadium is. And to go on record, I 1773 01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 1: was totally wrong about Keen watching him play in college. 1774 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:27,320 Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be all over the field. Yeah, 1775 01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean I would, don't be so hard on yourself 1776 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 1: on Keene. He just never stayed healthy. We never really 1777 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:32,880 Speaker 1: got a chance to see him do any of the 1778 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,880 Speaker 1: things that we thought he might be able to do. Yeah. 1779 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,720 Speaker 1: I was never overly high on him, you know, with 1780 01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:42,000 Speaker 1: his profile but I don't think it's fair to beat 1781 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,120 Speaker 1: yourself up for a guy who just couldn't stay healthy. 1782 01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 1: In terms of Cleveland, it's not a bad stadium. It 1783 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,200 Speaker 1: was built, like what late nineties, right on the lake there. 1784 01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's how they got the Browns back, right. 1785 01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,400 Speaker 1: I built that. It was part of that whole redo 1786 01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,400 Speaker 1: of Cleveland. They brought in the rock and roll hall thing. 1787 01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,599 Speaker 1: Yeah in Jacobs Field at the time. I know it's 1788 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,400 Speaker 1: not called now or something like that. Who is who 1789 01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:10,479 Speaker 1: is the Patriots player? Um? They played there one day 1790 01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,280 Speaker 1: at Cleveland. It was really windy, and they asked the player, 1791 01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, what did you think about the win? And 1792 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 1: he said, uh, oh, what do you expect when you 1793 01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,720 Speaker 1: build a stadium on the ocean? You're unbelievable. Who was that? 1794 01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,439 Speaker 1: It was Oilcam Boyd for the Red Sox, and the 1795 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,559 Speaker 1: fog moved in, Okay, and they could the fog moved 1796 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,479 Speaker 1: in and they had to delay the game for fog, 1797 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,080 Speaker 1: and oil can Boyd said that's what happens when you 1798 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,880 Speaker 1: build a s I know it was a Boston guy 1799 01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 1: that was baseball, So you just made one up. Is 1800 01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:44,439 Speaker 1: Jacob's on the uh ocean? The lake two. I don't know, 1801 01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,720 Speaker 1: must be right. They didn't play in Cleveland. Pretty much 1802 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:51,360 Speaker 1: everything is on that lake, right Yeah. Uh, Mike Deuce 1803 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 1: is on the phone again. Uh, Duce, what's the update 1804 01:36:54,400 --> 01:37:04,240 Speaker 1: of practice? Oh, that's not looking good, guys. Let's just 1805 01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,960 Speaker 1: say DeVante Adams probably is cut about ten passes today. 1806 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,479 Speaker 1: I mean he's just been Him and Hunter renfro are 1807 01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,040 Speaker 1: money in the bank anytime they throw to him. So 1808 01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 1: when the other team's quarterback can throw it to his receivers, 1809 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,519 Speaker 1: they get caught news at eleven. Yeah, and I mean 1810 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:24,360 Speaker 1: Paul right again, they're open. They're open all the time. 1811 01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,600 Speaker 1: The Patriots offense has uh, I mean it's it's a 1812 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,280 Speaker 1: little bit tough to see. So I don't want to 1813 01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,519 Speaker 1: say that this has been the worst practice I've seen them, 1814 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,680 Speaker 1: but it very well might be. Um in terms of 1815 01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,040 Speaker 1: eleven on eleven, I mean we had each team got 1816 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:41,799 Speaker 1: six reps. Uh, they complete a one path. Um, Freddie 1817 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,439 Speaker 1: to DeVante Parker. You need to go, you need to 1818 01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,240 Speaker 1: send help to Douce. I mean this is oh, yeah, 1819 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,559 Speaker 1: so I'm worried. I'm worried about my guy. I need 1820 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,479 Speaker 1: my guy for the pre and postgame show. Did the 1821 01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,920 Speaker 1: Patriots look as bad on day one of the joints 1822 01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:58,639 Speaker 1: as Carolina looked on day one of that last week. Yeah, 1823 01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they just they haven't been able to do anything. 1824 01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:01,679 Speaker 1: It's more of the same. It's you know, in each 1825 01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,000 Speaker 1: period they maybe make one play and then there's a 1826 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,599 Speaker 1: whole lot of drops on a whole lot of muddy 1827 01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,320 Speaker 1: running situations. It's just cracked, you know, and it's dark. 1828 01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,800 Speaker 1: It's dark contrast to what the Raiders show you with 1829 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,240 Speaker 1: Parker and Renfro. I mean, it's just you know, it's 1830 01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,320 Speaker 1: in time. And yeah, that's because we're playing them in 1831 01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,439 Speaker 1: the regular season and we were letting them show. What's 1832 01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:25,280 Speaker 1: everything they do. You don't get it due chess checkers, 1833 01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,719 Speaker 1: you know, none of them, none of us were feeling 1834 01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,000 Speaker 1: really high arms this summer for the Patriots. But today 1835 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,679 Speaker 1: just I think the you know, going against another team, 1836 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,880 Speaker 1: certainly with a number of really good players on it, 1837 01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,640 Speaker 1: but this has been a rough day. And again I 1838 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,880 Speaker 1: want to stress like we couldn't see everything from the 1839 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,320 Speaker 1: Patriots offense. We saw a lot more of the Patriots 1840 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,120 Speaker 1: defense and the Raiders offense, which was actually pretty cool 1841 01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:47,920 Speaker 1: because it was right in front of us. So I 1842 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,880 Speaker 1: kind of set up right near the offensive line. Coach 1843 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,040 Speaker 1: was listening to them, you know, so that that was 1844 01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,360 Speaker 1: a little bit interesting. Couldn't tell exactly what was going 1845 01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,720 Speaker 1: on in consensus from the media tent as they're trying 1846 01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,320 Speaker 1: to like stand on their tippy toes those libin klers 1847 01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:01,880 Speaker 1: to see what was going on with the offense was 1848 01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, similar, more of the same. Once they got 1849 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,479 Speaker 1: to eleven on eleventh though, and I was able to 1850 01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,400 Speaker 1: see all the reps, I mean, you know, thirty seven 1851 01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,840 Speaker 1: stuff one completion to to one incomplete, the thirty seven 1852 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,400 Speaker 1: pass breakup to agil or stuff to run to thirty 1853 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,640 Speaker 1: eight incomplete. Uh, and then the last, the last, the 1854 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:22,040 Speaker 1: last eleven on eleven session they did. Um, the offense, 1855 01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,160 Speaker 1: it was more middle field, a little bit more situational. 1856 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,160 Speaker 1: They give you, gave them someplace to move them down, 1857 01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,120 Speaker 1: but they ended that one with what was an interception. 1858 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,519 Speaker 1: So um, it's uh, it's it's probably going to be 1859 01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,040 Speaker 1: pretty bad, uh, in terms of the reports coming out 1860 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,080 Speaker 1: of here. But of course the disclaimer that you know, 1861 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,120 Speaker 1: there is some muddy stuff. Was Josh celebrating brutal on 1862 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:47,320 Speaker 1: the sidelines. It's no Mick Lombardi really really active, and 1863 01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean there was the one cool part about the 1864 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,160 Speaker 1: practice is being right next to the Raiders coaches. I 1865 01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,719 Speaker 1: mean it's it's something you don't ever get at Patriots practices, 1866 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,439 Speaker 1: where you hear everything they're saying. Um. You know sometimes 1867 01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,439 Speaker 1: when you see like run plays, you're not sure they 1868 01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,080 Speaker 1: were successful or not. You know, when you and the 1869 01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,280 Speaker 1: right next to the sideline, you can tell if they 1870 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,759 Speaker 1: were successful and not based on you know, the offensive 1871 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 1: line coaching losing his mind about missing a blocker. What's 1872 01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,920 Speaker 1: what's the physical what's the physical level? Are guys tackling? 1873 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,479 Speaker 1: Is it just thumping? What are they doing? No? No, 1874 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,439 Speaker 1: there's been no tackling, no shenanigans either, no fights or anything, 1875 01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,760 Speaker 1: just a lot of tagging off. But you know, when 1876 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 1: they got Parker, I'm sorry, when they have Adams and 1877 01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,720 Speaker 1: rentfrow it it doesn't really matter. It's just I mean, 1878 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:28,240 Speaker 1: Adams is catching everything throng. Is Waller taking part? Mike 1879 01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:32,320 Speaker 1: Darren Waller? You know, I have not I have not 1880 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,599 Speaker 1: seen him. Actually, now that you mentioned that I've been 1881 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,559 Speaker 1: looking for him earlier, I don't. I don't believe that 1882 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,400 Speaker 1: he is out here. Yeah, what what about the type 1883 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,639 Speaker 1: of defense the Patriots are playing. Are they playing man 1884 01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 1: on man and who's covering Parker Adams Adams? Yeah, Jayla Mills, 1885 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,080 Speaker 1: Jayala Mills got beat a few times by him. Um, 1886 01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 1: you know one particular one on one rep with Mills 1887 01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:55,120 Speaker 1: and and Adams, which you know, of course it's really 1888 01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,160 Speaker 1: tough of the dbs, but it was one where you know, 1889 01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,519 Speaker 1: Mills got positioned on him and kind of had him 1890 01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 1: pinned against the sideline and Adams just turned the speed 1891 01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,240 Speaker 1: on and ran away from him and they completed the 1892 01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,160 Speaker 1: pass over him. So um, Mills also had one word. 1893 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:09,920 Speaker 1: It almost looked like he went to the interception and 1894 01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:13,080 Speaker 1: missed it and Davante Adams grabbed another one. So I mean, 1895 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,599 Speaker 1: it's just the takeaway from today is the Davante Adams 1896 01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:18,840 Speaker 1: show and more of the same from the Patriots offense. Well, 1897 01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,439 Speaker 1: he's one of the best, you know, that's for sure. 1898 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,599 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of the young kids that everybody 1899 01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,719 Speaker 1: loves to talk about, but Davante Adams, he can't forget 1900 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,879 Speaker 1: about him. He's he is a class in and of himself. 1901 01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:35,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, in all seriousness, you gotta cheer up 1902 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:39,639 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's a practice and by the way, 1903 01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,760 Speaker 1: Davante Adams just just in. He's really good, right, So 1904 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,080 Speaker 1: the fact that he's one more more than his share 1905 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:51,240 Speaker 1: of reps is not caused for the sky falling. We relaxed. 1906 01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,479 Speaker 1: How's mac look in terms of just getting the ball 1907 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,360 Speaker 1: out and you know, confidence and you know how does 1908 01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:00,080 Speaker 1: he look that way and he's slamming of the thigh pads? No, 1909 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:01,800 Speaker 1: none of that. I mean again, like we got it. 1910 01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,479 Speaker 1: We're looking through a line, you know, a sideline right now, 1911 01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,240 Speaker 1: a Patriots. I'm just looking at all the Patriots players 1912 01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:08,719 Speaker 1: and you kind of have to look at the gaps 1913 01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,479 Speaker 1: in between to see what they're actually So maybe that's it. 1914 01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you just haven't seen all the good plays. Yeah, 1915 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,880 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, that's the ticket. Yeah, sure, on the 1916 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,160 Speaker 1: moments like can't see all right, well listen, thanks for 1917 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,280 Speaker 1: the updates for bringing us down. Yeah, um, what's on 1918 01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,080 Speaker 1: the docket tonight? What do you got planned? Strippers? I 1919 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:28,719 Speaker 1: don't know. There's a little rumors of the little media 1920 01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:32,200 Speaker 1: get together, so we'll see. I'm not sure part taking 1921 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,000 Speaker 1: that or not. Is it a media at large get 1922 01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,599 Speaker 1: together or is it? Wow? So you know what that means. 1923 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm not there, so you were invited. So so the 1924 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,320 Speaker 1: Patriots aren't sponsoring it, right, it's just the media doing 1925 01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:47,320 Speaker 1: it themselves. Yeah, I know it was well, Staky was 1926 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,960 Speaker 1: going around asking people who wanted to go, and I 1927 01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 1: wasn't there, and then I came back and everyone was like, oh, 1928 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:53,920 Speaker 1: I told them that that you wanted to go, And 1929 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, why why did you do that? I see now, 1930 01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,640 Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see how it ends up. All right. Yes, 1931 01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,639 Speaker 1: I've been at some of those in the past. All right, Mike, Well, 1932 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,720 Speaker 1: enjoy and we'll look forward to your blobservations in a 1933 01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:11,679 Speaker 1: in a little bit. Oh yeah, for sure. And I'm 1934 01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:17,120 Speaker 1: not sure. We'll do our best to make it able 1935 01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:21,040 Speaker 1: as possible. All right, thanks Mike. Just so on the scene, 1936 01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned, like that was as down as 1937 01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:27,280 Speaker 1: I've heard deuson since the postgame show with the Buffalo. Well, 1938 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think we had one series 1939 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,000 Speaker 1: against the Panthers and everybody got excited, Oh they can 1940 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,000 Speaker 1: score a touchdown? You know that they had too bad one. 1941 01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:39,000 Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great point. Like everybody forgot 1942 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,639 Speaker 1: about the first two series and always focused on the bomb, 1943 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,800 Speaker 1: like the bomb was fantastic. It was a great throw 1944 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,240 Speaker 1: by Mac and a great catch by Agaloor. He's open 1945 01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,439 Speaker 1: like great. Yeah, I would have felt better even though 1946 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:51,599 Speaker 1: I love the bomb, Don't get me wrong, I want 1947 01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,040 Speaker 1: they need big chunk plays. But I would have felt 1948 01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,960 Speaker 1: better is if they had a drive that included the bomb, 1949 01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,559 Speaker 1: but also had another drive that included you know, seven 1950 01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,920 Speaker 1: or eight, four or five yards. At the time, that 1951 01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,080 Speaker 1: was a ten play drive that forty five yards came 1952 01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,599 Speaker 1: on one play, right, you know what I mean. Yeah, 1953 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:10,280 Speaker 1: Like I would have felt better if it was a 1954 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,680 Speaker 1: little bit more of both. Yeah. So you know, I 1955 01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,080 Speaker 1: do think you're right, Like everybody's sort of glossed over 1956 01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:17,960 Speaker 1: the first two, three and ounce. Yeah, so it was 1957 01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,519 Speaker 1: almost like a slap in the face of reality. Deuce's 1958 01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,599 Speaker 1: report now, and I think, you know, if he's down, 1959 01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure that a lot of the other writers are 1960 01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,160 Speaker 1: the same money interested to see what some of the 1961 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:29,800 Speaker 1: other guys. I mean, I don't know how many people 1962 01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 1: are even out there, but I'll be interested to see 1963 01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,960 Speaker 1: what they say. Yeah, so, you know, we want this. 1964 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,439 Speaker 1: We want to see signs that we're gonna be all right, 1965 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, offensively, We're gonna be okay. And then you know, 1966 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,920 Speaker 1: we get all excited about how our defense has been playing, 1967 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,639 Speaker 1: and then they come up against, you know, a pretty 1968 01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,200 Speaker 1: talented offensive team with Josh McDaniels as the head coach. 1969 01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:57,720 Speaker 1: Is he also the offensive coordinator? Is he both out there? McDaniels, 1970 01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so, who knows, don't you know? Maybe 1971 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:01,840 Speaker 1: he is? He calling the place. You know, he's got 1972 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,360 Speaker 1: a hand in the end, you know. And so we're like, oh, 1973 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,280 Speaker 1: as soon as we come up against somebody, you know, 1974 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 1: with a clue, we're trying, you know, so we want 1975 01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,639 Speaker 1: to we want to, we want we want good news. 1976 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,559 Speaker 1: And uh, it's a little discouraging, but you know, the 1977 01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,799 Speaker 1: Panthers had a terrible his calling the place. The Panthers 1978 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,720 Speaker 1: had a terrible first day, and on day two they 1979 01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,400 Speaker 1: were much better. So let's let's hope the Patriots are 1980 01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:29,160 Speaker 1: the same way tomorrow, you know now that we uh, 1981 01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, you can be in awe 1982 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,960 Speaker 1: of the taj Mahal and you get all wrapped up 1983 01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:37,640 Speaker 1: into the maybe that's it, Maybe that's it. It was 1984 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:45,080 Speaker 1: too nice. Yeah, Uh, let's see what have we got here? Oh, 1985 01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:48,840 Speaker 1: so we were talking, see we read his email. Let's 1986 01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:53,640 Speaker 1: go to Juan Uh. He's in Stratford. Uh, considering the 1987 01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,600 Speaker 1: clavicle plays such a huge role in our mobility. This 1988 01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:00,320 Speaker 1: is Thornton. He's talking about how much do you think 1989 01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:04,639 Speaker 1: his injury will affect his catching ability long term? I'm 1990 01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,840 Speaker 1: more worried about this than how soon he'll be back 1991 01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:11,559 Speaker 1: on the field. How much Thornton's injury will affect his 1992 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:15,439 Speaker 1: ability to catch the ball long term? Term? Zero? Yeah, 1993 01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,439 Speaker 1: he broke his collar and you know no, I mean, 1994 01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,680 Speaker 1: he broke his collar bone, right, that's not gonna have 1995 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:24,400 Speaker 1: an impact on him his ability to catch. He says 1996 01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:28,840 Speaker 1: that it hurts mobility. It doesn't, okay, like he I mean, 1997 01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:32,320 Speaker 1: unless he has like some kind of complication or whatever 1998 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:37,400 Speaker 1: that's unforeseen. But it's a bone, I mean, according to reports. 1999 01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,840 Speaker 1: Am I wrong here? Yeah? I miss because sometimes our 2000 01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,559 Speaker 1: listeners are more up to date on some of this 2001 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,360 Speaker 1: stuff than than we are. Yeah, so maybe he has 2002 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:45,960 Speaker 1: some information that we don't have, So I don't want 2003 01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,599 Speaker 1: to dismiss him. But if it's just a broken collar bone, 2004 01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:51,639 Speaker 1: it'll he'll he'll inde time and he'll be fine. I mean, 2005 01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:53,800 Speaker 1: like I know what he's saying, Like some injuries cause 2006 01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 1: scar tissue, and the scar tissue decreases mobility. But I 2007 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,439 Speaker 1: don't think in this case you're worried about like I 2008 01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:04,320 Speaker 1: would worry about that if he like tore his rotator cup. Yeah, 2009 01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,639 Speaker 1: and now he doesn't have the mobility to reach above 2010 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:08,920 Speaker 1: his head and have that big catch radius, right, but 2011 01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:13,200 Speaker 1: a collar bone shouldn't do that. Still in Seattle, I 2012 01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:16,120 Speaker 1: don't feel the best about this coming season. I'm thinking 2013 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,679 Speaker 1: below five hundred is very realistic. I know it's early 2014 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of this is based on nothing tangible, 2015 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,720 Speaker 1: but what I have seen doesn't make me feel like 2016 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:29,519 Speaker 1: this team can compete with the rest of the AFC. Yeah, 2017 01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 1: how you people are down? Maybe Frank's right, maybe this 2018 01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,120 Speaker 1: is curmudgeon City. Oh no, I'm not making fun of 2019 01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,880 Speaker 1: the Frank's comment about curmudgeon City. Yeah, I'm making fun 2020 01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,040 Speaker 1: of the fact that, like he he's making fun of 2021 01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:44,920 Speaker 1: like we're talking about like we talked about donuts the 2022 01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,960 Speaker 1: whole ship, Like we didn't spend forty five minutes talking 2023 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,360 Speaker 1: about the offense. He happened to tune in when we 2024 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,920 Speaker 1: were But yeah, I think there's been a lot of 2025 01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to say negativity. But I want to 2026 01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:00,760 Speaker 1: say there's a lot of doubt among atriots nation, and 2027 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,519 Speaker 1: I think that's why people like was it Frank, Yeah, 2028 01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,960 Speaker 1: that's why they're reacting the way they are. Yeah, because 2029 01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:09,760 Speaker 1: they don't it's it's not all about who's hosting the 2030 01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:12,080 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. That's the way it used to be around. 2031 01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,920 Speaker 1: It's not like that anymore. Ryan from Connecticut, I know 2032 01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,120 Speaker 1: Patricia's calling the offensive plays with Judge waiting in the wings, 2033 01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,360 Speaker 1: But what about I don't know that. What about Nick Kayley? 2034 01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,639 Speaker 1: Why a Patricia and Judge gotten the chance and not Kayley. 2035 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,599 Speaker 1: I was under the impression that they blocked Kayley from 2036 01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,920 Speaker 1: interviewing with the Raiders, so they must see something in him. 2037 01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:35,479 Speaker 1: They did block Kayley from interviewing with the Raiders. Yeah, 2038 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know why. And Bill says he doesn't. 2039 01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,519 Speaker 1: He's not ready to talk about who's calling the plays. 2040 01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:46,120 Speaker 1: It's a process, so I don't know who's calling. Does 2041 01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:50,559 Speaker 1: that process include Nick Kayley? Well, he also said, you know, 2042 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,600 Speaker 1: as part of that, like the email had just said, logically, 2043 01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:56,680 Speaker 1: you know Matt Patricia's calling the plays, because that's who 2044 01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:00,360 Speaker 1: we saw actually calling the plays. But Bill to me. 2045 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:05,519 Speaker 1: His answer intimated that there's more two of them. He's 2046 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,280 Speaker 1: communicating with the quarterrect right, and I think he was. 2047 01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,960 Speaker 1: He went to great lengths to say he wasn't calling 2048 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:15,040 Speaker 1: the plays right, he was communicating to the quarterback right. 2049 01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,680 Speaker 1: So I'm not ready to say that he's the guy 2050 01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:19,680 Speaker 1: who's going to call the place right. I don't know. 2051 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,920 Speaker 1: I think it's Bill. More updates from Tyle. He has 2052 01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:28,880 Speaker 1: a very important question. Uh, if Bill and Tom were desserts, 2053 01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:33,240 Speaker 1: what kind of desserts would they be? If you were 2054 01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:39,840 Speaker 1: a tweet, I think Bill would be a tart and 2055 01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:45,400 Speaker 1: Tom's very tart, particularly target. Yeah, Tom would probably be 2056 01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,880 Speaker 1: chocolate pudding. I don't know idea. I'm not good at those. 2057 01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,360 Speaker 1: Tom would be a creme brewer. What's what's the fanciest 2058 01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,000 Speaker 1: thing that you could come up? Yeah, what's the top? 2059 01:49:56,080 --> 01:50:00,280 Speaker 1: What's the the greatest of all time dessert? He'd be 2060 01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,519 Speaker 1: be a banana split? Right? Isn't that the greatest dessert 2061 01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:07,519 Speaker 1: of all time? Not a hot fudge Sunday? Well, banana 2062 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:11,719 Speaker 1: split is a hot foote Sunday with banana bananas? Well, 2063 01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,320 Speaker 1: in your opinion, but if you look in the venue, 2064 01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:18,800 Speaker 1: the banana split is slit. The banana split is more 2065 01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:23,719 Speaker 1: expensive than the hot fudge Sunday. I'm gonna look down. Okay, 2066 01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,680 Speaker 1: look it up. Look it up. At the risk of 2067 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:31,800 Speaker 1: further pissing off, Frank looked up. All right, is it really? 2068 01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:36,479 Speaker 1: I bet you there would be Yeah, yeah, banana split 2069 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:40,360 Speaker 1: and you get in it's bigger. It's a bigger slit. 2070 01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,120 Speaker 1: Run you seven and nine dollars had an ice cream shop. Oh, 2071 01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:46,640 Speaker 1: this is not what I'm looking for. Just go to 2072 01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:50,479 Speaker 1: like friendlies and look at their menu. You know. Yeah, 2073 01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:57,160 Speaker 1: that's not a bad idea. While Paul's doing that big research, uh, 2074 01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,200 Speaker 1: Pat and Agawam says, I had a question one of 2075 01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,400 Speaker 1: my most enjoyable shows in a while. I had a 2076 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:06,120 Speaker 1: question regarding Orlando Brown's status with Kansas City. I know 2077 01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,760 Speaker 1: he's playing this season on the franchise tag. Does that 2078 01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:11,640 Speaker 1: mean he could still be traded but would have to 2079 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,519 Speaker 1: garner a first round pick? Would you give up win 2080 01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:20,400 Speaker 1: and a first rounder to Kansas City for Brown knowing 2081 01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:23,240 Speaker 1: you'd have to sign him long term? And would he'd 2082 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:28,840 Speaker 1: be worth signing. I don't know how good he is. Yeah, 2083 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,559 Speaker 1: whenever you say Orlando Brown, I think Orlando Pace. I would. 2084 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I would be willing to. I don't know 2085 01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:39,840 Speaker 1: about a first rounder and win, but I don't know 2086 01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:46,599 Speaker 1: how good he is. Yeah, but in terms of the 2087 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,040 Speaker 1: franchise tag rules, if you want to play, you have 2088 01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,840 Speaker 1: to offer a first round pick. But the tea doesn't 2089 01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:54,400 Speaker 1: have to see. But that's that's past now. Yeah, you 2090 01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,280 Speaker 1: can't sign a franchise guy anymore that that window was quote. 2091 01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,519 Speaker 1: You would have to trade for him. Now the email 2092 01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:03,880 Speaker 1: is right in theory, you couldn't really expect to get 2093 01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:06,240 Speaker 1: him for less than the first round pick. Yeah, when 2094 01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,240 Speaker 1: he would have when we're two first round picks if 2095 01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,000 Speaker 1: someone signed him right as a franchise guy. But I 2096 01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:17,479 Speaker 1: don't I don't know exactly how good he is. Claire Rights, 2097 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:22,160 Speaker 1: Hello boss Man, Hello Pauli, Hello Marine. Uh sorry if 2098 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,560 Speaker 1: you've touched on this, but have you mentioned Humphrey to 2099 01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 1: tight end? Maybe yes, we have. How difficult is it 2100 01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,240 Speaker 1: for a player to evolve it to a different position? 2101 01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:33,560 Speaker 1: In which transition do you think maybe more difficult and 2102 01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:37,760 Speaker 1: easier than others? Well, I think I think corner to 2103 01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:45,559 Speaker 1: safety is a common one. Um. You know, you know 2104 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,640 Speaker 1: on the interior, you know, guard to center, sena to 2105 01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,320 Speaker 1: guard a lot of guys do that. Um, you know, 2106 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:56,120 Speaker 1: there's I agree, yeah, that's about it. Though other than 2107 01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:58,519 Speaker 1: that they are there's you know, if you want to 2108 01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,680 Speaker 1: break up the wide receiver position into the different you know, 2109 01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:06,839 Speaker 1: like slot verse outside. You know, it might be harder 2110 01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,360 Speaker 1: for an inside guy to be an outside guy because 2111 01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:12,120 Speaker 1: he just doesn't have the speed, um you know, things 2112 01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,840 Speaker 1: like that. But in terms of wide receiver to tight end, 2113 01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:18,120 Speaker 1: it depends on how they use it, you know, different 2114 01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:19,960 Speaker 1: tight ends are use different ways. If he's going to 2115 01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:23,040 Speaker 1: be used to block a lot, is he a good blocker? 2116 01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 1: Can he can he stand up to being to blocking right? 2117 01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:29,719 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know when I when I mentioned that, 2118 01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,479 Speaker 1: my feeling was more in terms of I don't think 2119 01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:36,040 Speaker 1: he's fast enough to be a threat on the outside 2120 01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,640 Speaker 1: the numbers as a wide receiver, but I think his 2121 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:42,200 Speaker 1: size um is such that he could give you an 2122 01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:45,080 Speaker 1: option as like an extra tight end down down the 2123 01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:47,240 Speaker 1: middle and the scene between the numbers where I think 2124 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:50,200 Speaker 1: he's caught a lot of his passes. Dan writes in 2125 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:54,479 Speaker 1: Brady would be Brady would be a Boston cream donut 2126 01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,519 Speaker 1: or Boston cream pie, because truly they are the greatest 2127 01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:01,040 Speaker 1: of desserts. Wow, I really disagree with that. I don't 2128 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:02,439 Speaker 1: know how many people have to tell you they like 2129 01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:06,400 Speaker 1: Boston Cla. You realized wrong too much? So how much 2130 01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:09,519 Speaker 1: more is the Banana Split? Matt Hot Fudge Sunday on 2131 01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,800 Speaker 1: Friendlies is five forty nine, the Banana Split eight sixty nine? 2132 01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,920 Speaker 1: There you go, all right? You pay three bucks for banana, 2133 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:17,960 Speaker 1: You get what you pay for. All right. That's gonna 2134 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,960 Speaker 1: be it for This edition of Patriots Unfiltered, the world's 2135 01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:26,080 Speaker 1: original podcast, will be back on Thursday, usual time noon. 2136 01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:29,760 Speaker 1: We'll get more updates from Las Vegas from hopefully Douce 2137 01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:31,840 Speaker 1: will be alive. Yes, I'm a little worried about him. 2138 01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:33,920 Speaker 1: Someone better take away your shoelaces so we will talk 2139 01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:37,680 Speaker 1: to you then. Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe 2140 01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,760 Speaker 1: on Apple, google Play, and everywhere else you listen. Like 2141 01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:44,040 Speaker 1: the show, Please rate and review us. 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