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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome in to Turning Point tonight. Together

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Speaker 1: we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. My

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Speaker 1: name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in tonight.

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Speaker 1: We have a very special guest that I'm very excited

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Speaker 1: to talk to about his perspective on his own process

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Speaker 1: in decision making, as well as how the country's going

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Speaker 1: and what are trajectory going forward looking. Please help me

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Speaker 1: welcome doctor Ben Carson to the show. Doctor Carson, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you a delight to be here with you.

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Speaker 1: You know, doctor Harson, just to start off initially, you've

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about bridging the divide and kind of

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Speaker 1: aisle generally tend to say often that we have more

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Speaker 1: in common than we have indifference. Can you kind of

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Speaker 1: especially considering how deep the political divide seems to be

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, interestingly enough, there was a time when

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Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans argued, but they had the same goal.

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Speaker 2: They had different ways of getting there, but they had

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Speaker 2: the same goal. Now the problem is they don't have

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Speaker 2: the same goal. It makes things much more contentious. You know,

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Speaker 2: one I wants a country that's upformed by the people.

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Speaker 2: One side wants a country that's upformed by the government,

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Speaker 2: and it becomes increasingly difficult to reconcile those two policies.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the key thing is if we start

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Speaker 2: of based on opinion. I think that's the way that

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Speaker 2: we can begin to make some progress. Also, you know,

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Speaker 2: as the Bible says, you know, with your enemies, be

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Speaker 2: nice to them, like putting coals of fire in their head.

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Speaker 2: They don't like that. And there are those who actually

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Speaker 2: intend to divide us. If you go back and you

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Speaker 2: look at the congressional record January tenth, nineteen sixty three,

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Speaker 2: more than sixty years ago, way before you were born,

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Speaker 2: Congressman Herlong of Florida wrote in the forty five Goals

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Speaker 2: And you'd be amazed at how many they accomplished already,

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Speaker 2: diminishing the role of fathers, detegrating the role of families,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty amazing just as you go down that list,

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Speaker 2: and it's a clever idea. They knew that they could

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Speaker 2: conquer us militarily, so why not destroy you from within

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating here you say that. I think one

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Speaker 1: love to narrow kind of down on your perspective. You've

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Speaker 1: also as a neurosurgeon. In those positions, you you'd have

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Speaker 2: Well, I do what's called a best worst analysis. I

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Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. We

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Speaker 4: Should we stop wearing sunglasses?

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Speaker 5: Yes, no way, except we should be wearing them indoors

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Speaker 5: going to happen to the orange tree?

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Speaker 2: It's going to die.

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Speaker 5: Same thing with us when you cover us with sunglasses,

439
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Speaker 5: and we hide from the sun. It's not how we

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Speaker 5: were born. We didn't come out, you know, wearing clothes

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Speaker 5: and sunglasses. So our biology is tuned and designed to

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Speaker 5: utilize the sun. And when we cover up, we become

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Speaker 5: less healthy.

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Speaker 4: So you are an expert in all things circadian rhythm

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Speaker 4: and light diet, as I like to call it. So

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Speaker 4: what time are you waking up and what time are

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Speaker 4: you going to bed?

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Speaker 5: Great question. So I wake up with the sun, and

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Speaker 5: that is a different time all year. So in the

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Speaker 5: winter that might be seven o'clock in the morning. That's

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Speaker 5: hard when you have a full time corporate job. And

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Speaker 5: what I try to tell people, and it's a quote

453
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Speaker 5: from a book and I love it, is sleep as

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Speaker 5: much as you can without getting fired or divorced. So

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Speaker 5: it's true that the more sleep we get, the healthier

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Speaker 5: we are. Especially in the winter, you don't need to

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Speaker 5: sleep as much in my opinion and from everything I've studied,

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Speaker 5: in the summer. So this eight hours of sleep a night,

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Speaker 5: I think is both like you actually need to sleep

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Speaker 5: less in the summer and more in the winter. And

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Speaker 5: that's how we're biologically designed. So I almost always get

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Speaker 5: up with the dawn and get outside barefoot, no glasses,

463
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Speaker 5: no sunglasses, no contacts, and see the sunrise.

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Speaker 4: Now you live in Wisconsin, you're a Midwest guy, I am.

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Speaker 4: So in the winter, are you going out in the

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Speaker 4: snow barefoot?

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Speaker 5: Sometimes?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 5: If I could go out every day in the snow barefoot,

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Speaker 5: I would. Now my wife and I go out every

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Speaker 5: single day and see the sunrise at dawn. We made

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Speaker 5: a commitment for the rest of our lives that we

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Speaker 5: will not miss one day. If you're barefoot, it slows

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Speaker 5: down the photons of the sun. This gets a little technical,

476
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Speaker 5: but what it's doing is it creating things hormones in

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Speaker 5: your body from sunlight. By being barefoot and looking in

478
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Speaker 5: the direction of the sun at dawn, it turns on

479
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Speaker 5: your testosterone for men and estrogen for women.

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Speaker 4: You committed to every single day seeing the sunrise.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: What if you're sick, get outside.

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Speaker 5: Wow, because you're going to heal you. The sun is healing.

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Speaker 4: So I remember, like you know, when you're reading like

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Speaker 4: old books, like the Victorian era or something, the doctors

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Speaker 4: are always like, you need the sun. You're sick, go

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Speaker 4: to the seaside, It'll heal you. Is there truth?

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Speaker 6: To this.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I used to read a lot of those

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Speaker 5: books too, and I'm always like, what is the deal

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Speaker 5: with people like I have rheumatism, I have this, I

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Speaker 5: have that, And they keep leaving to go south or

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Speaker 5: to the seaside. Their doctor is like, go to the sea,

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Speaker 5: go to the ocean. And in fact, in Europe they

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Speaker 5: used to have sunlight wings of the hospital even so

496
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Speaker 5: they would put babies and sick people in the direct

497
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Speaker 5: sunlight outdoors. They had windows and doors that opened in

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Speaker 5: the hospital and they would put the sickest patients there.

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Speaker 5: Or now the seashore has additional benefits like ozone grounding,

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Speaker 5: but the sunlight is absolutely healing, and when you're barefoot

501
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Speaker 5: on the ground, and especially at the sea shore, it's

502
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Speaker 5: even extra healing because of the ozone that's coming in

503
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Speaker 5: from that ocean wave. That is healing. And that makes

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Speaker 5: a ton of sense. You do heal when you're on vacation.

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Speaker 5: Think about how much better you feel and how much

506
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Speaker 5: happy you are when you're on the beach on vacation.

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Speaker 5: It's a real thing.

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Speaker 4: Well and correct me if I'm wrong. You know more

509
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Speaker 4: than me. But also part of the reason we feel

510
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Speaker 4: so much better ocean side. Is the negative ions coming

511
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Speaker 4: from the waves, right, And don't you get similar benefits

512
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Speaker 4: to lighting beeswax candles?

513
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Speaker 5: Yes, So you can get negative ions from a number

514
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Speaker 5: of things, like some of those salt rock lamps. Yes,

515
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Speaker 5: those can give off negative ions as well if you

516
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Speaker 5: have the right light. If you put an led light

517
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Speaker 5: in there, it's not working. But if you put an

518
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Speaker 5: incandescent light inside your salt rock lamp, you get the

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Speaker 5: negative ions coming off. Oh wow, same with on the

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Speaker 5: sea shore. So those negative ions, here's the deal. When

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Speaker 5: we have inflammation in the body, it's positive charge. How

522
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Speaker 5: do we get rid of positive charge, which is inflammation

523
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Speaker 5: which leads to disease. We want to get rid of

524
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: that and absorb electrons negative charge. The more electrons we have,

525
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Speaker 5: the more energy we have, the more our cells can

526
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Speaker 5: heal themselves. So standing barefoot on the ground dumps positive

527
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Speaker 5: charge into the ground and absorbs free electrons, just like

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Speaker 5: burning beeswax candles, Just like the salt rock lamp, and

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Speaker 5: just like being on the ocean right the shore of

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Speaker 5: the beach. All of those negative ions are free electron

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Speaker 5: energy for the body.

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Speaker 4: And I love that. Almost everything that we're talking about

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Speaker 4: for the most part. Besides like as salt lamp or whatever,

534
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Speaker 4: or a candle which costs barely anything. I mean, this

535
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Speaker 4: is free. This is free stuff that can greatly benefit

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Speaker 4: your health.

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Speaker 5: I kind of grew up in the biohacking space, and

538
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Speaker 5: in the biohacking space, it's chasing supplements and magic technology

539
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: devices and they're all really expensive and if they all

540
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Speaker 5: worked perfectly. Now, some supplements are great, but a lot

541
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Speaker 5: of the devices, they don't work perfectly, So people chase

542
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Speaker 5: the next one and the next one, and they're spending

543
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Speaker 5: so much money that what we decided is we wanted

544
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Speaker 5: to look at how to take biohacking and make it

545
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Speaker 5: nature based, because some of those things work better. So

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Speaker 5: if you're going to invest money in a supplement, or

547
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: if you're going to invest money in a device, it

548
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 5: will work better if you're already doing the free natural

549
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Speaker 5: things that tune your body up.

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Speaker 4: How is the light in our homes and then in

551
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Speaker 4: our workspace offices really making us sick many ways?

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Speaker 5: So we are a light poisoned population. The light that

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Speaker 5: we're exposed to is highly intense in the blue color

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Speaker 5: of light. So if you look around yourself on your device,

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Speaker 5: your tablet, your phone, your television, your laptop, the overhead

556
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Speaker 5: lighting at the office or the gym. It doesn't look blue,

557
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Speaker 5: but that white light that we see is based on

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Speaker 5: a blue led technology. So the thing that drives the

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Speaker 5: light out of those lights that are all around us

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Speaker 5: now that everything's led, is blue frequencies of light. And

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Speaker 5: so if you analyze it with a scientific instrument, it

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Speaker 5: will show you there's no infrared, almost zero red light,

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Speaker 5: very little yellow, and a ton of blue light. Blue

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Speaker 5: light in itself is not bad, but blue light becomes

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Speaker 5: toxic when we're exposed to too much of it. It

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Speaker 5: messes with our circadian rhythm. It is actually associated with cancer,

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Speaker 5: heart disease, diabetes, and obesity if we see after sunset

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Speaker 5: and macular degeneration during the day because we have so

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Speaker 5: much of it hitting our eyes causing for you radicals.

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Speaker 4: How do you know if your circadian rhythm is off?

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Speaker 5: You would know if your circadian rhythm, which is this

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Speaker 5: natural twenty four hour cycle that's designed into our biology

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Speaker 5: and it is controlled by light and dark cycles of

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Speaker 5: the earth, it will be off if you're not waking

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Speaker 5: up and seeing the sunrise and seeing the sunset at

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Speaker 5: night and then not seeing any light after the sunsets. Now,

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Speaker 5: how many of us none have the lights off after

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Speaker 5: the sunsets, especially in winter when it Wisconsin, it's four

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Speaker 5: pm when the sun sets.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a Maga Monday type

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Speaker 1: of clip, but I do think it's fascinating and interesting.

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Speaker 1: We'll call it a Maga Monday clip. Watch watch this

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Speaker 1: that it will discuss.

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Speaker 9: We're standing on the ancestral and unseated land of the

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Speaker 9: Tanawanda tribe with gratitude.

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Speaker 10: But that you're talking about ske place, Okay.

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Speaker 9: But before that, it was the Tonawanda's place. It was

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Speaker 9: unjustly taken from them.

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Speaker 10: Actually used to belong to my great uncle Lorenzo and

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Speaker 10: told my good for nothing Uncle Aldo lost the will

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Speaker 10: and swindled it from my aunt burned dead, even though

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Speaker 10: the grandfather clearly left at all the kids.

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Speaker 9: Okay, fine, but long before that it was taken from

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Speaker 9: the Tonawanda.

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Speaker 3: Who they take it from.

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Speaker 9: There's no record that they took it from anyone.

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Speaker 10: So now we gotta reward them and keeping bad records,

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Speaker 10: just like Uncle Aldo.

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Speaker 9: We're not rewarding them, Guido, we're simply acknowledging that.

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Speaker 4: But that's worse.

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Speaker 10: That's like robbing a bank and then bragging about it.

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Speaker 9: I'm not bragging about it.

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Speaker 10: If you're not giving them money back, then you're bragging

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Speaker 10: about it.

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Speaker 9: It's not mine to get back.

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Speaker 3: Well, the what's the problem?

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Speaker 6: They were right?

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're wrong. It's wrong.

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Speaker 9: It's important to acknowledge that the Tonawanda tribe is indigenous

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Speaker 9: to this region.

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Speaker 3: So are my cousins my aunt burned there.

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Speaker 10: Squeeze out all twelve of them in this bad bedroom. Well,

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Speaker 10: look on the porch, ba porch right over there.

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Speaker 11: This is why, Okay, here's why.

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Speaker 1: I think this is like kind of a Maga Monday

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Speaker 1: clip because I think people making fun of the things

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about, the idea of land acknowledgments this

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Speaker 1: and once.

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Speaker 3: Belonged to this Indian tribe.

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Speaker 1: And okay, well who did they take it from through

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Speaker 1: force and conquer it from another tribecause that's how that

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Speaker 1: all works. I think people making fun of that, especially

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Speaker 1: in that kind of way. I don't think that was

662
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Speaker 1: like a conservative outlet. Maybe it was, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I found that clip on the internet. It could have

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Speaker 1: been the Babylon, but it could have been somebody on

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Speaker 1: our side. But the fact that it's being made fun of.

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Speaker 3: I think as an indicator that Mega is just winning.

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Speaker 1: We're just taking over the culture, and I just I

668
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Speaker 1: think that's the best thing that can happen. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I always think it's funny to make fun of the

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Speaker 1: dumb things the Libs are doing. As I say, often

671
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Speaker 1: there is a secret plot that is run by conservatives

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Speaker 1: with the intent of making liberals look stupid. And that

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Speaker 1: secret plot is called let Them Talk operation. Let Them Talk.

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Speaker 1: It's actually working out beautifully, and the more we make

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Speaker 1: fun of that, I think the better situation will be.

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Speaker 1: And let's let's get to another clip.

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Speaker 3: Watch this, good man.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, pause this really clip. Let me set let

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Speaker 1: me set this up really quick. I should have set

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Speaker 1: this up by This is the most patient person I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. If I were sitting in

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Speaker 1: this seat, I would be panicking. That's the setup. There's

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Speaker 1: not much discussion needed afterward. Watch this, good man.

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Speaker 12: Okay to me, you gonna hit him?

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Speaker 1: He did not have them right away.

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Speaker 12: There's a person. There's a person.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm driving Solar as a person.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, mister.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, he was moving erotically, you know what I mean,

691
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Speaker 4: Like I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: And now I got cut off by the taxi. The

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Speaker 2: guy was walking back and forth.

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Speaker 12: I want.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole trunk.

696
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Speaker 12: There's a whole trunk.

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Speaker 2: Stop.

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Speaker 6: Why was he?

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Speaker 2: Car's going to straight? You have the right way.

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Speaker 12: Cars turning the left have to wait.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, got you somep.

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Speaker 12: Go around say nope, look at your mirror, look at

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Speaker 12: your blue spot. Is it safe?

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Speaker 2: It's a red lay.

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Speaker 12: Now we're in the intersection. Turn right please so it

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Speaker 12: can exit this intersection because we're in it and we

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Speaker 12: have to get out of it into your laying. Please

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Speaker 12: make sure it's safe. Right, all right, good, okay.

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Speaker 11: All right, all right.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I know that was long.

712
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Speaker 1: But if you were like me, you're sitting there going,

713
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're gonna hit a person.

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Speaker 3: There's a bus.

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Speaker 1: The calmness that that guy had, maybe we should have

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Speaker 1: that guy teach lessons to all the libs, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you about something that's okay, just kind of let it settle,

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Speaker 1: live with it, process it, and figure out a tactful

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Speaker 1: way to approach it.

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Speaker 3: There's a whole bus coming. There's a bus coming. There's

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Speaker 3: a whole bus coming.

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Speaker 11: No, maybe maybe you should be a little bit more

723
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Speaker 11: frantic because.

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Speaker 1: That's actually a really serious and immediate situation.

725
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Speaker 3: But I liked that guy's just overall demeanor.

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Speaker 1: It made me feel actually, no, it made me feel

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Speaker 1: email the show, what did you feel at home? TVT

728
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Speaker 1: ATPU say dot God, I'm actually very curious what other

729
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: people felt watching that. I was like, Ah, they're gonna crash,

730
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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna die. This is not good. So there's that.

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Speaker 1: Do we have time for this? Go ahead and play

732
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Speaker 1: it and we'll cut it off if we need to

733
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Speaker 1: check this out here.

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Speaker 6: I am pushing on this car Cynthia problem by myself.

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Speaker 9: Who's the guy.

736
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: When you have me?

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Speaker 6: So three hours later of trying to get a Lissa's

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Speaker 6: car to work, and uh, it's clear to say that

739
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Speaker 6: I had no clue what I would doing. And I

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Speaker 6: guess we do mean then, because the whole inside of

741
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Speaker 6: my car exploded.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you have that problem, you need to Hopefully

743
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: you're calling the guy who was in that driving school

744
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: seat would be like, Hey, don't worry about it, It'll

745
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Speaker 1: be fine.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise, I don't know. Some people might be pretty upset

747
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Speaker 3: by that.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it first here at turning point tonight,

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Speaker 1: Charlie is gonna take usut' see you tomorrow, same time,

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Speaker 1: same place.

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Speaker 11: God bless America.

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Speaker 8: How have you been treated by the trans jihadists?

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Speaker 11: Rightley, Oh gosh.

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Speaker 13: We could spend the rest of our of our allotted

755
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Speaker 13: time talking about this. I will say, it's remarkable the

756
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Speaker 13: shift that we have seen again when you compare now

757
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Speaker 13: to three years ago. And that's that's across every realm

758
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Speaker 13: of society right even on you know, watching the football field,

759
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 13: you've got people like Nick Bosa out there doing the

760
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Speaker 13: little Trump dance that couldn't have happened three years ago.

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Speaker 13: He was fined over eleven thousand dollars for wearing a

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Speaker 13: Maga hat. They told him, they asked him, you know,

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Speaker 13: do you regret this? He said, no, I would do

764
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Speaker 13: it again. The next day he gets out there and

765
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Speaker 13: does that little dance.

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Speaker 11: And while that.

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Speaker 13: Dance might seem silly, it might seem like it's, you know,

768
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Speaker 13: just a silly little movement celebration. No, that dance represents

769
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Speaker 13: a whole lot. It represents free speech, It represents how

770
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Speaker 13: cancel culture is losing its grip. It represents patriotism that

771
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Speaker 13: I believe people have been desperate for But to answer

772
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Speaker 13: your question, that's all that to a test to the

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Speaker 13: shift that we have seen, and certainly since November fifth,

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Speaker 13: and even more so since January twentieth, I compare that

775
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Speaker 13: to three years ago. Let me just tell you actually

776
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Speaker 13: what my university did to me. Take you back to

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Speaker 13: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. I will never forget

778
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Speaker 13: when we learned of who Will Thomas was, When we

779
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Speaker 13: learned he was going to be competing in the pool

780
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Speaker 13: with us, When we learned he was going to be

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Speaker 13: sharing a locker room with us, my whole team opposed this. Right,

782
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Speaker 13: my team of forty girls. None of us thought this

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Speaker 13: was was fair or safe, or righteous, or moral or just.

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Speaker 3: By any means.

785
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Speaker 13: But our university they sat us down in a room.

786
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Speaker 13: We had to do restorative justice circles. We had to

787
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Speaker 13: go to verbatim, these educational meetings where we weren't allowed

788
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Speaker 13: to leave. They until verbatim. They felt like we had

789
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 13: been properly re educated. We were told, you're going to

790
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 13: lose all of your friends if you speak out about this.

791
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 13: You know, lifelong friends, friends you've had for forever, They're

792
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Speaker 13: not gonna want to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Anymore.

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Speaker 13: They said, Riley, you know your plan is dental school

795
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Speaker 13: after college. Well you'll never get in. No dental school

796
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 13: will ever even look at your application if you speak

797
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 13: up about this, because they're going to see that you're

798
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Speaker 13: a transpho. But if you want a job after college,

799
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Speaker 13: forget it. It's standard practice for an employer to look

800
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Speaker 13: up their candidates for their job, and they will never

801
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Speaker 13: hire you.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 13: You know, Riley, you signed that scholarship and you did

804
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Speaker 13: it willingly. And when you did, you gave away your

805
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 13: rights to speak in your own personal capacity. Remember who

806
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 13: you represent, whose name is across your chest and across

807
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 13: your cap, because it's not yours, it's ours. And understand

808
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 13: we have already taken your stance for you. I will

809
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 13: never forget when they sat us down as a team,

810
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 13: they brought in an outside professional, whatever that means. I

811
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Speaker 13: don't know what qualifications you need for this job. But

812
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 13: she set us down and she said, what it sounds

813
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 13: like you're advocating for is segregation. And do you remember

814
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 13: how America treated African Americans? Is that the side of

815
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 13: history you want to be on? You know who else

816
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 13: advocated for segregation? The KKK that is who you are

817
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 13: linking yourself to if you oppose undressing next to a man.

818
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Speaker 13: They told us point blank, outright that we would be

819
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Speaker 13: equivalent to murderers because we would have blood on our hands,

820
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Speaker 13: and they would follow it with and you don't want that.

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Speaker 13: You don't want to be a murderer, do you no?

822
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Speaker 13: So I suggest you be kind, and I suggest you

823
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Speaker 13: be inclusive, and believe it or not, that is effective.

824
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Speaker 3: That works.

825
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Speaker 13: Telling girls are going to be racist murderers if they

826
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Speaker 13: defend themselves, or god forbid, they're people like my younger sister,

827
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Speaker 13: it's emotional blackmail. But when you're talking to eighteen, nineteen

828
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Speaker 13: twenty year old girls, they knew what they were doing.

829
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Speaker 13: But to speak more specifically to the transactivists, it was

830
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Speaker 13: actually at a turning point event at San Francisco State

831
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Speaker 13: University where I went there to share my message. Again,

832
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 13: nothing even really opinionated. It was at that point, I mean,

833
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Speaker 13: I pretty much only spoke to my lived experience. And

834
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Speaker 13: it was a classroom setting, so you know, a podium

835
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Speaker 13: at the front, seats out in the audience like a

836
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Speaker 13: whiteboard behind me, and upon delivering my message, a group

837
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Speaker 13: of protesters Russian they turn off the lights, hundreds of them.

838
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 13: They turn off the lights to the room so it's

839
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Speaker 13: pitch black, and they ambush me like I'm fully accosted.

840
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 13: I'm being pushed, I'm being shoved, I'm being like punched

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Speaker 13: in the face by these men wearing dresses, which fortunately

842
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 13: for me, their punches don't.

843
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 11: Hurt that bad.

844
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 13: But nonetheless, these protesters ended up barricading me in a

845
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Speaker 13: room and holding me for ransom for about I mean

846
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 13: for almost five hours, demanding that if I wanted to

847
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 13: make it back home to see my family safely again,

848
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Speaker 13: I had to pay them money.

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Speaker 3: You might be wondering where.

850
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Speaker 13: Were the police. We were in San Francisco, so the

851
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 13: police were being held for ransom with me our three

852
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 13: in this room. Right, I'm looking at them, can't you

853
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 13: do something? Isn't it actually your job to do something,

854
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 13: to which they outright said no, no, we can't do anything.

855
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 13: We're not allowed to do anything because we're not allowed

856
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 13: to be seen as anything other than an ally to

857
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 13: that community or else we'll lose our jobs again, the

858
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 13: same community who's on the other side of the door

859
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 13: calling these officers racist pigs for protecting a white girl

860
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 13: like me. Anyways, it's about midnight at this point, the

861
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Speaker 13: middle of the night, and the Dean of students shows

862
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 13: up and starts negotiating with the students how much I

863
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 13: owe each of them to be able to leave, which

864
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 13: the price they agreed upon was ten dollars each, which

865
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Speaker 13: makes me mad because I think I'm worth more than

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Speaker 13: ten dollars. Eventually we were able to get out of

867
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Speaker 13: that room, but not because the protesters dispersed or were

868
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 13: letting up decided to go home, know about I mean, however,

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00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 13: many officers had to form a diamond around me we

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00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 13: pushed out. But the most remarkable part about this story

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00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 13: is what happened the next day when the vice president

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Speaker 13: of student Affairs at the university is now a university

873
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 13: wide email so to all faculty, all staff, the entire

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Speaker 13: student body, and in this email, she said, we are

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Speaker 13: so proud of our brave students for handling Riley Gains

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Speaker 13: in the manner that they did. We know how deeply

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Speaker 13: traumatic her presence is on this campus, and so here's

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Speaker 13: some counseling resources for you all. You know, take the

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Speaker 13: day off of school. Just know that we see you,

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Speaker 13: we love you, we hear you, and we stand with you.

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Speaker 13: No mention of, of of course, the condemnation of violence,

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Speaker 13: violence against women for that matter. No mention of the

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Speaker 13: value and upholding free speech, no, of course not. I

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Speaker 13: could tell story after story after story of being spit on,

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Speaker 13: of people throwing glass bottles at me, pouring drinks on

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Speaker 13: me for hours. But again that shift that we've seen,

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Speaker 13: and I mean to be very clear, from the beginning

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Speaker 13: the support has been tenfold compared to the negative. But

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Speaker 13: you compare three years ago to now. A lot of

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Speaker 13: the support at the beginning was in privacy or in secrecy,

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Speaker 13: or in direct messages or done through winks or whispers.

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Speaker 13: That is totally shifted. Now people are so much more

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Speaker 13: bold and saying men cannot become women.