Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast back in Hollywood, Park Baby
Speaker 1: from the Chris Wesley Podcast Studio. It's the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I'm Dan hansis joined by Greg Rosenthal and
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Say I left a little pause in there, Mark,
Speaker 1: the audience absence makes the heart grow fonder. People are
Speaker 1: so hot for Cessler right now. Your brand is very big.
Speaker 1: Dipping away helped you in a way. Maybe you do
Speaker 1: it again in a few weeks, you know, just throwing
Speaker 1: it out there. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's only
Speaker 1: downhill at this stage. If now that I'm present and
Speaker 1: doing the job that they're you know, in theory requested
Speaker 1: me to do that, the popularity dips. I think you
Speaker 1: just stay out. I mean, that's just probably the next move.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna make a big deal out of every
Speaker 1: milestone for Sunday Show. Mark's first Sunday show back. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have been to this office previously for about twenty
Speaker 1: hours totally not even I mean more like two hours.
Speaker 1: But it's so it's very strange to be back, but
Speaker 1: it's nice to be back in the Chris Wesley Studio,
Speaker 1: one of the best rooms in all of l A.
Speaker 1: You mentioned before that we are in Hollywood Park. It's
Speaker 1: neither Hollywood. It's definitely not a park. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's nothing about this place that would suggest a child's well,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a child's area. But the branding
Speaker 1: is spot on, you know, Tinseltown baby, um Mark. I
Speaker 1: think it's something I you know, it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a sensitive topic. UM. So I didn't bring it
Speaker 1: up on Tuesday. This could go anywhere, so the first
Speaker 1: show back. But I think it's it's kind of hoping
Speaker 1: Greg would bring it up, but I will your prediction,
Speaker 1: your sandwich predictions about um, a coach resigning, about a
Speaker 1: cheerleader being made really involved in the story or a
Speaker 1: story is I don't want to be out of school here,
Speaker 1: but maybe a little on the nose that you were
Speaker 1: that that correct? Is it possible that you had something
Speaker 1: to do with this, that you were in the emails somehow,
Speaker 1: that you were part of the whole controversy? Just put
Speaker 1: it out there. I am seeing that. Um, that's been
Speaker 1: thrown at me online multiple times, and in my only
Speaker 1: response would be if there's any benefit to have never
Speaker 1: been in the category of insider on any level? UM,
Speaker 1: that just I mean, I've not provided inside information over
Speaker 1: the course of a decade inside this company. Why would
Speaker 1: I suddenly be Well, you could be deep throat. Deep
Speaker 1: throat in this case is not going public. You decided
Speaker 1: to take you know, he or she um you know
Speaker 1: contributed to this story and ultimately got you sandwiches, So
Speaker 1: you would have a motive. I mean, I think from
Speaker 1: the other, you know, the other person's angle. Why include me?
Speaker 1: There's no upside for any other person that I win
Speaker 1: sandwiches on a podcast in a distant state. I don't
Speaker 1: know all I'm saying. It feels absurd to me that
Speaker 1: I would suddenly be seen as a man with inside information.
Speaker 1: I simply made a very correct prediction, multiple very correct predictions,
Speaker 1: and and that you did. And we will be touching
Speaker 1: on what's going on around the Raiders with their new
Speaker 1: head coach Greg Rich coming up a little bit later.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through all the games of week six.
Speaker 1: A little bit later tonight, we will be recapping the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Philadelphia Eagles with Greg Rosenthal and
Speaker 1: mystery guests Nate Tye joining me tonight. Whoa Nate Tye?
Speaker 1: Good one Good one pencil behind the ear maybe we'll
Speaker 1: see UM and then we're gonna go through all the
Speaker 1: recaps of all the games, UM in addition to Thursday
Speaker 1: Night foot Bell on Sunday, our flagship program. But first
Speaker 1: we got a preview all of week six and we
Speaker 1: do a draft style. But before we get to that,
Speaker 1: let's start with the prime time games. And if we
Speaker 1: start with the prime time games, and were starting with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Uh, his hand all bandaged up, leading to
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback having to play in prime time in
Speaker 1: front of Al Chris in the world, that could only
Speaker 1: mean it's time for one thing and now another edition
Speaker 1: of You know sometimes Greg, I wondered, and I worried
Speaker 1: that we'd never be able to play that drop again
Speaker 1: because Gina would never have another opportunity. But here we are,
Speaker 1: and the biggest of all spots at the age of
Speaker 1: let's say he's about thirty. I think he's right around
Speaker 1: thirty years old. Uh, he's going to Pittsburgh to play
Speaker 1: a Steelers team flawed as they are at two and three,
Speaker 1: but with a great pass rush with t J. Watt
Speaker 1: leading the way with some playmakers UM in the secondary. UM,
Speaker 1: you were concerned when We talked about Gineo in London
Speaker 1: having to start a game um and really be out
Speaker 1: there out in front. But he did play well in
Speaker 1: relief against the Rams. How do you feel about a
Speaker 1: boy Geno Smith in this spot and his team, by
Speaker 1: the way, in the hyper competitive NFC West, desperately needing
Speaker 1: a win at two and three themselves. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't feel great. It's a different thing to come in
Speaker 1: for two quarters and look good. And Gino did look good.
Speaker 1: I mean he was changing plays at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman was getting all excited. He's the thirty one
Speaker 1: year old I I always wondered, like, would this long
Speaker 1: fascination with Gino Smith ever result in him ever getting
Speaker 1: another chance, because it felt like he was on the
Speaker 1: border line when he had a rough concussion in in
Speaker 1: the preseason of like, could this be the end of
Speaker 1: Gino Smith's career. It's one thing to do that for
Speaker 1: two drives against the Rams. It's another for four quarters.
Speaker 1: Because the Seahawks are a bad team. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: like the whole story of this Seahawks season is Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson is basically the one thing that they have that
Speaker 1: they do well. I mean they have they have lock
Speaker 1: it in DK Metcalf on the outside, but other than that,
Speaker 1: it's one of the worst offensive lines in the league.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty bad running game statistically, it's one of
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in the league. It's been basically, through
Speaker 1: five games, one of the worst Seahawks teams. I would say,
Speaker 1: the worst that we've seen. That's a big ask for
Speaker 1: Gino Smith to come in here again good yeah under
Speaker 1: peak Carroll and look um like a guy who can
Speaker 1: move the ball up and down the field on a
Speaker 1: Steelers defense that I still have a lot of respect for,
Speaker 1: right I think it's the Steelers defense factor. I mean
Speaker 1: there was a play, a couple of plays and against
Speaker 1: the Rams where I thought that essentially what you know,
Speaker 1: some of Geno's success was the Rams defense looking a
Speaker 1: little out of it, a little gas towards the end
Speaker 1: of that game. But you know what he did. I
Speaker 1: thought managed the game really well. I mean, he took
Speaker 1: a lot of time at the line of scrimmage. But
Speaker 1: they talked about the fact that like his all of
Speaker 1: his nine completions basically were less than ten air yards.
Speaker 1: He took what the Rams gave him. He was one
Speaker 1: for seven on shots that were downfield, but I thought
Speaker 1: he made some plays. But Pittsburgh with a week to prepare,
Speaker 1: is gonna look at this team and say, Number one,
Speaker 1: it's not just Gino. It's the fact that, like the
Speaker 1: Seahawks laid in that Rams game doing all they could
Speaker 1: to stop the Rams, they basically of the Rams like
Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball. They put Darryl Henderson right
Speaker 1: up the gut of Seattle's defense. Twelve yard games. Seattle
Speaker 1: knew what was coming, couldn't stop it. I just look
Speaker 1: at the Seattle defense. It's last in the league and yardage.
Speaker 1: It's not the case with points allowed that about twenties something.
Speaker 1: But this is so atypical of where Pete Carroll has
Speaker 1: taken this team on previous journeys. And so to your point, Greek,
Speaker 1: if you take Russell Milton Wilson out of the mix,
Speaker 1: Gino makes it a total mystery soup. And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where this ends. Like we'll be taping the pod
Speaker 1: during the first half and then you know, peek behind
Speaker 1: the curtain we started, I you know, watched the first
Speaker 1: half as the second half, like I'm not looking for
Speaker 1: I'm missing this. This has been like a seven year
Speaker 1: project for me, and we're missing the start of this game. Well,
Speaker 1: this isn't good. I'm gonna just people are just gonna
Speaker 1: be bombing me with like reactions, good or bad, and
Speaker 1: I won't know what's going on. And remember, we have
Speaker 1: a viewing theater here at the New Network offices, and
Speaker 1: you are welcome to sit right next to me and
Speaker 1: we could chop it up in the second half. And Mark,
Speaker 1: I'd love for you to join us as well. Uh.
Speaker 1: Greg has been keeping his distance from me in the
Speaker 1: theater and it's been an issue, um that I've been
Speaker 1: dealing with privately, A doing like the guy thing where
Speaker 1: you don't sit next to each other in a movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, we actually went to a movie together once
Speaker 1: down in San Diego. I believe we sat next to
Speaker 1: each other. We did. We sat right next to each other.
Speaker 1: And so that Jennifer, literally no one is sitting right
Speaker 1: next to each other. It's a big nice I think
Speaker 1: one to two chairs space then you it's fine, but
Speaker 1: you are eight chairs separated. That's pretty on the nose. Greig,
Speaker 1: maybe you could sit in between the giant space that
Speaker 1: Greg leaves between. Well maybe he was leaving a space
Speaker 1: for me like you do at a table, the manufactured bit,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers. Then the Steelers finally looked
Speaker 1: something of a balance. Uh, found in something of a
Speaker 1: balance on offense. Now they said season highs last weekend points,
Speaker 1: total yards, rushing yards against Denver, and you know, Denver's
Speaker 1: got a good defense. Uh, and especially I think the
Speaker 1: rushing yard has jumped out because they were reaging just
Speaker 1: over fifty yards a game in the first four weeks
Speaker 1: of the season. And this is you know, coming off
Speaker 1: the Naj Harris first round pick. Harris blows up greg Um,
Speaker 1: Roger Ben Roethlisberger has some success. Is this something sustainable,
Speaker 1: especially against this defense? Yes, this week I was wondering
Speaker 1: if if their offensive line played like that moving forward,
Speaker 1: then Mark and start getting a little worried again that
Speaker 1: the Steelers are gonna do something like you were. You
Speaker 1: were on these Steelers are gonna collapse bandwagon, I mean
Speaker 1: for a month and a half profit totally, and then
Speaker 1: at one and three it was like, oh, you should
Speaker 1: have you should have stayed on it. But last week,
Speaker 1: like they pushed the Broncos around. It's not like Naj
Speaker 1: Harris suddenly was running better. It's just they absolutely like
Speaker 1: was pushing them backwards. If they can do that even
Speaker 1: just a little bit, their offense could be fine. But
Speaker 1: it's not like Roethlisberger played any better. He made a
Speaker 1: bunch of mistakes in that game, and he just had
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool and Deante Johnson making plays for him. And
Speaker 1: if somehow you missed it, Russell Wilson underwent surgery his
Speaker 1: right middle finger and is expected to return no earlier
Speaker 1: than week ten. So it is virtual mustlin territory for
Speaker 1: something to put a sandwich on him returning earlier than
Speaker 1: week ten. Uh No, I won't. Yeah, I just feel
Speaker 1: like it feels very like they're gonna set up a
Speaker 1: bar and then he's going to come back early, and
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's a good move in life, right, But
Speaker 1: also like, yeah, I don't want to take it away
Speaker 1: from I think he's an incredible competitor state on the
Speaker 1: field his whole career. But someone on our network literally said, like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like an incredible healer, he's one of
Speaker 1: the best. Yeah, that I can't there's a there's a
Speaker 1: huge mural. Well, there's murals everywhere in this new building
Speaker 1: and right outside the commissary area, there's all these like
Speaker 1: buzzwords for believing in oneself. And one of him is
Speaker 1: like determination, and it's like a picture of like Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson like clasping his hands together, like biting his lower lip.
Speaker 1: He's like drinking that concussion juice. Juice that like, it's
Speaker 1: like that resonates with no group less than NFL media
Speaker 1: report every time. Gino, by the way, let's win this game.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't you know, maybe you win seventeen to sixteen.
Speaker 1: Let's go see Oaks defense. Let's play some team football,
Speaker 1: and Gino Kinn at least you're called for an embarrassing loss.
Speaker 1: For the Steelers to in six faul to Gino Smith
Speaker 1: in a bad defense would be nice. All right. That
Speaker 1: was it, and that was another edition of Veno checking
Speaker 1: on Gino Frags with incredible voice work. Let's move to
Speaker 1: Monday night football. The Buffalo Bills four and one, so
Speaker 1: they had they had a primetime game last week. Whooped
Speaker 1: up on the Chiefs at Arrowhead. That was grizzly, um
Speaker 1: if you're a Chiefs fan. And now they go to
Speaker 1: Tennessee to face the Titans. The three and two Titans,
Speaker 1: the Titans who got a big performance per usual from
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry in their win over the Jaguars. Here's a great,
Speaker 1: great stat ron Henry. And we all know Henry is
Speaker 1: the guy that does it all for the Titans. UM,
Speaker 1: he's that important to them. He is. Without him, they
Speaker 1: are a bad team. And this step from CBS. If
Speaker 1: you remember the Thursday Night game and Graverman said, and
Speaker 1: Graver why I always had the man sitting in for
Speaker 1: grave Digger sitting in for Ricky was a little under
Speaker 1: the weather. The Thursday Night game a couple of years
Speaker 1: back was against the Jaguars when he had two hundred
Speaker 1: touchdowns two hundred yards and four touchdowns UM. From that game,
Speaker 1: it's been forty games since and it's the most productive
Speaker 1: stretch by a running back in NFL history four thousand
Speaker 1: seven yards over that span, just ahead of Jim Brown,
Speaker 1: who's a guy who's a guest on the A t
Speaker 1: L Debate Club. That's how most people know him. Actually
Speaker 1: said that he enjoyed the interview, which I don't think
Speaker 1: he was, you know, being phony about that. I called him.
Speaker 1: Some of his behavior when he's younger is audacious and
Speaker 1: he goes, that's a good word, young man. All right,
Speaker 1: Jim Brown, thanks for the compliment. Anyway, So Derrick Henry's there,
Speaker 1: they got him. However, Mark, you have the Buffalo Bills here,
Speaker 1: and you have a team that's hitting on all cylinders
Speaker 1: right now, and even Derrick Henry might not be able
Speaker 1: to handle what's coming here. Well, not to mention the
Speaker 1: rest of Tennessee's rather bland nature, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think a team that just sort of in the middle
Speaker 1: of the mix. Uh Tannehill's the most sacked quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league. And Greg, you're a d v o A guy,
Speaker 1: there's the seventh worst team Tennessee in the league d
Speaker 1: v o A wise. I mean, they're just they're a bland,
Speaker 1: middle of the pack team in a rough division. And
Speaker 1: the Bills shook off their early issues on offense and
Speaker 1: look unbeatable. I mean, they beat the Dolphins thirty five
Speaker 1: to nothing. They were utterly unstoppable against a bad chief.
Speaker 1: Stevens like recap the whole like six weeks you were
Speaker 1: gone or what. I just I'm looking back on what
Speaker 1: we're just like slump that people were, you know, fretting
Speaker 1: over for a fortnight It's like that's just early season blues.
Speaker 1: And that was one game where they out game the
Speaker 1: other team by a hundred and forty yards. It's the
Speaker 1: Steelers who I think can do that to certain teams.
Speaker 1: We're basically talking about the last time you were here.
Speaker 1: That was the last time I was here. That's very fair.
Speaker 1: That's the last thing that I've touched, you know, as
Speaker 1: of your world. I do think the Bills, here's the
Speaker 1: thing they've ad. It's not just last year laptop right now.
Speaker 1: Not true. I worked quite hard attempting to while gone,
Speaker 1: because you can't just skip a month of these looks
Speaker 1: like the Steelers are gonna be okay. That's that is
Speaker 1: absolutely not accurate. Here's what I like about the Bills.
Speaker 1: I think someone like Dawson Knox is coming into his
Speaker 1: own like Emmanuel Sanders was by a good front office,
Speaker 1: a really good addition. I was a team I wanted
Speaker 1: the Ravens to get him a year ago because he
Speaker 1: plugs in really well. He's been good for them. I
Speaker 1: think Leslie Fraser has been coordinator of the year. Material.
Speaker 1: It's material. Gregory Russo is all over the place. I
Speaker 1: just think it's as much the Bill's defense as the
Speaker 1: offense in Tennessee. I don't trust them to get to
Speaker 1: use this game as anything other than a prime time
Speaker 1: embarrassment some degree. So the Super Bowl last year with
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, it was the whole thing was a blur
Speaker 1: for us personally and everything. But like that game was,
Speaker 1: it was so weird to watch the Chiefs getting beat
Speaker 1: up on. But what I saw in Sunday against the
Speaker 1: Bills was even stranger. And this is a credit to Buffalo,
Speaker 1: where it felt like they knew everything the Chiefs were
Speaker 1: gonna do on defense, and there was nothing when Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes trying to get heated up to try to get
Speaker 1: back in that game, it was just wasn't there. And
Speaker 1: I think that that shows you the preparation of this
Speaker 1: team and also that they just seem they are ready
Speaker 1: to take that next step and become a true superpowers,
Speaker 1: super Bowl level team. And I'm with you, I think
Speaker 1: this does not set up well for the Titans, who
Speaker 1: greg don't have a lot of I'm sure they'll tell
Speaker 1: you they have a lot of urgency, but they're playing
Speaker 1: in this terrible division where they're gonna win eight games
Speaker 1: and probably win the division, and they could handle a
Speaker 1: last here. I'm not saying that's gonna lead to them
Speaker 1: not giving you a good effort in this game, but
Speaker 1: it just feels like we're these are two different teams
Speaker 1: at two different places have been the best team the league,
Speaker 1: and the Titans are far from that. They should have
Speaker 1: Julio Jones back this week. A J. Brown has been
Speaker 1: was back but hasn't really produced at all this year,
Speaker 1: which is a weird subplot of the Titans. Uh. The
Speaker 1: only thing that Titans could hope is, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a letdown the Bills. You know,
Speaker 1: get that big win in prime time in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: That's slaying the dragon. But the Bill should remember that
Speaker 1: game last year, don't you guys? Remember they were both
Speaker 1: undefeated Monday Night Football and the Titans destroyed. They put
Speaker 1: a forty on the Bills. They won by about thirty
Speaker 1: points in that game. So the Bills should be looking
Speaker 1: for a little revenge. And we're not even allowed to
Speaker 1: lock this one up, or else I would get on
Speaker 1: the road. It is crazy. The Derrick henrything. I do
Speaker 1: want to point out just like how crazy he is
Speaker 1: right now. Not only only is he leading the league,
Speaker 1: in you know, yards, carries and rushing touchdowns for the
Speaker 1: third straight year, which is that's crazy. He has a
Speaker 1: hundred and forty two carries right now. The next closest
Speaker 1: player has ninety four. Yeah, I mean that's like he's
Speaker 1: also you know, he's pace for because of the seventeen
Speaker 1: games about four hundred and seventy five carries. So he
Speaker 1: has broken every rule that there is. And there's still
Speaker 1: a part of me that's like, I don't know. They
Speaker 1: obviously can you keep doing this. Yeah, they're just like
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it, and we're gonna see if he
Speaker 1: could keep it up. But yeah, he's on pace to
Speaker 1: shatter the all time single season carry record and by
Speaker 1: the way, not for nothing, the rushing record. So, um,
Speaker 1: here's the last thing on this game from the Bill's
Speaker 1: side of things. Since that week to since week two,
Speaker 1: he throughout the Pittsburgh game their first in points per game,
Speaker 1: first in points per game allowed, first, in point differential first,
Speaker 1: and turnover differential first, and sack difference at first and
Speaker 1: average margin of victory. Yeah, they're the best team in
Speaker 1: football right now, and that's gonna be a lot for
Speaker 1: Tennessee to handle, all right, let's now move out of
Speaker 1: the prime time window and two hour draft and Mark,
Speaker 1: since you've been out of the office, I think you know,
Speaker 1: give you a little cookie first. Overall, pick I'm like
Speaker 1: an expansion team, so you've got to give that person
Speaker 1: a chance to build, you know, from the ground up.
Speaker 1: At this point, I mean, I'm not gonna I don't
Speaker 1: fear that one of you would steal this. But that
Speaker 1: means you have to take the Jaguars. That does not
Speaker 1: mean that where that is that I'll be up at
Speaker 1: six thirty. Well, I'll be watching Dolphins Jags go ahead
Speaker 1: most of us. Well, Um, I am going to take
Speaker 1: Arizona Cleveland because I think it's one of the best
Speaker 1: games of the week and it's Cleveland. I think Brown
Speaker 1: is available to draft and watch the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: I gotta admit I have to say something about the Browns.
Speaker 1: They really annoyed me last week. Um, but I don't
Speaker 1: understand how you come out of that game blaming everything
Speaker 1: on Baker Mayfield. Who look at he he he has
Speaker 1: missed throws the last two weeks. I don't think his
Speaker 1: left shoulder has been healthy in that sling people that
Speaker 1: have had that injury say that takes about three weeks
Speaker 1: to get used to, if not more. There's obviously chemistry
Speaker 1: issues with Odell Beckham that last week really costs them
Speaker 1: costs in the week before. So I'm not here to
Speaker 1: say that Baker Mayfield has been perfect. But last week
Speaker 1: against Justin Herbert the Chargers, they were so injury raddled
Speaker 1: on defense. They were down to their fourth, fifth, sixth
Speaker 1: defensive back and those guys were getting injured in a
Speaker 1: game where they gave up forty seven points. What about
Speaker 1: the defense a few weeks before when Clowney was in there,
Speaker 1: when they had their full complement of players. So you know,
Speaker 1: they're a little healthier this week. But I don't think
Speaker 1: it gets any easier with the Cardinals. I watched this
Speaker 1: Arizona team, and they are energy, they are confidence. They
Speaker 1: boldly passed the ball deep, and you look at what
Speaker 1: the front office has done. Adding someone like ron Deal
Speaker 1: Moore was such a perfect addition that the point where
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is sometimes not really even the center points
Speaker 1: that point of this passing attack. I don't I think
Speaker 1: this is a tough another very tough draw for Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Who the one thing about the Browns I know that
Speaker 1: like one of the best fourth quarter offenses in terms
Speaker 1: of when they're at leading and their ground game is
Speaker 1: churning out, which has happened in multiple games. But I
Speaker 1: look at the Browns and kind of say, you aren't
Speaker 1: the Ravens. You aren't some of these other teams because
Speaker 1: you can't close link games out. They should. They could
Speaker 1: have two more wins than they do right now. You
Speaker 1: look at them a look differently. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the Baker thing, like whatever, he played great, and the
Speaker 1: offense played great against the Chargers, so I and like
Speaker 1: the Sling thing. You keep hearing that, like how much
Speaker 1: that bothered him. But there's also a lot of evidence
Speaker 1: at this point in his career that he's just he's streaky.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's really good. What happened last week had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with his arm. Here's why people get on
Speaker 1: him because when he gets the ball, not only does
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski run it on third and ten when you're
Speaker 1: trying to put the game away, which which kind of
Speaker 1: shows a little bit of a lack of confidence Baker,
Speaker 1: the problem is when you get the ball with a
Speaker 1: minute thirty left and you got one time out. I
Speaker 1: believe at that point, that's where the quarterback takes control.
Speaker 1: And he ran an awful two minute drive. He made
Speaker 1: a bunch of bad decisions where he throws it two
Speaker 1: yards in the middle of the field, and that's the
Speaker 1: moment that's like the quarterback has to be the quarterback
Speaker 1: and he has to be the guy who runs it,
Speaker 1: and he didn't run it, and so that's why he
Speaker 1: gets he gets the grief, I think, and I think
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It doesn't mean he gets all the grief.
Speaker 1: He played pretty well, but that's the moment people like
Speaker 1: are wanting out of Baker. May I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: It's fair. I think that he's treated a little differently
Speaker 1: than other quarterbacks. But but enough with Baker, because I mean,
Speaker 1: it's Kyler Murray to me, who three months ago I
Speaker 1: looked at this Cardinals team thinking that they were going
Speaker 1: to be the team that took a dirt nap in
Speaker 1: that division, even if they probably still would win seven
Speaker 1: or eight games. And you have to give Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: a ton of credit for what they've done. And it's
Speaker 1: not just him. I think vance Joseph on defense has
Speaker 1: done the kind of job that could give Cleveland problems
Speaker 1: they are, I believe one of the worst of the
Speaker 1: fifth worst run you so nervous. Well, if they're undefeated,
Speaker 1: and listen when remember when they added the favorite favorite.
Speaker 1: I don't care if Cleveland's favorite favored catching nothing. They're
Speaker 1: catching him in the right week. Him at home you
Speaker 1: don't have. You don't have Chandler Jones. You don't have
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson. You don't have Chandler Jones. There are two
Speaker 1: of their very best players. There's some reports about more
Speaker 1: COVID tests might be positive there. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's coaches or what, but the availability is pretty huge
Speaker 1: because Clowney, Garrett, you know, McCann only you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you get word back it sounds like, but you don't
Speaker 1: really know if these guys are playing or not. We
Speaker 1: don't know where do you have five games into season? Mark?
Speaker 1: What great would you give the Browns right now? What
Speaker 1: do you feel about them right now? B plus? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you feel good. I think they're a B plus
Speaker 1: team and they aren't an A team until they can
Speaker 1: beat the Chargers and knock out other teams that are growing.
Speaker 1: A nice opportunity though, just to kind of wipe the
Speaker 1: taste off and you beat the undefeated team and you
Speaker 1: get to four and two and you feel good. I
Speaker 1: just agitated in my house watching this, and also not
Speaker 1: at work, so you think it's a vacation day. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's like that was such a that was such a
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out because they lost the game. Mark,
Speaker 1: but you had We're in London, you're not working, The
Speaker 1: Browns are playing. They're playing at a building that's like
Speaker 1: a mile away from your house. You got to be
Speaker 1: at that game. I don't have to be. You got
Speaker 1: to get in your last chance to do it. How
Speaker 1: do you expe First of all, like it just wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It was still in recovery mode of undegree.
Speaker 1: But how would I'd explain to any of you or
Speaker 1: anyone that I work with that I'm, you know, joking
Speaker 1: around this entire building. All people do in this building
Speaker 1: is go to the games across the street. But we
Speaker 1: would not have chagrined, We would have no issue. But
Speaker 1: I know it was not on the table mentally. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Who do you got in the game.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Browns. I think they're a better team.
Speaker 1: I mean the Cardinals are good. But if ever the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to lose a game, it's like on
Speaker 1: the road out of conference, they're they're missing their guys,
Speaker 1: their their offense. I had some struggles last week. Not
Speaker 1: that that's overarching concern, but I think the Browns are
Speaker 1: a better team. I picked Cleveland. I think like thirty
Speaker 1: to twenty nine, but just because, and I think kind
Speaker 1: of my My thought about the Browns is like their
Speaker 1: defense stunk get less Sunday, but that happens every once
Speaker 1: in a while. They came turned into attract me. But
Speaker 1: we've seen their defense that it could be great. We've
Speaker 1: seen the offense can be great. Browns are gonna be okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are due for loss. I got the Browns too,
Speaker 1: all right, before Greg's up, let's take a break. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move to Greg. Oh should should have thought about
Speaker 1: this little ahead of time? And now my computer is
Speaker 1: frozen and he loses his draft spot. I raced in
Speaker 1: like the Vikings getting banged the other day. All right,
Speaker 1: I will take Chargers at Ravens. Oh got you know?
Speaker 1: You got Vikings? No, you got Vikings, baby, I gotta
Speaker 1: take Lamar and justin wait, a second mark. You have
Speaker 1: to decide this because this never happened. But he had
Speaker 1: the clock, just like what happened to the vikings at.
Speaker 1: I know, but so I'm I'm I'm thrust back into
Speaker 1: the studio and must create alight between Greg and I.
Speaker 1: It's Lamar, it's Herbert. That doesn't mean you only appreciate
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. No, but I've I've put in the world.
Speaker 1: I feel like Greg is really strict about the locks.
Speaker 1: And if he's going to be that strict about that,
Speaker 1: there was no rules to this in terms of time,
Speaker 1: and I'm just we're waiting for my This computer is
Speaker 1: from two thousand and fourteen, two unfree. That's your issue.
Speaker 1: So he has he been hopscotched. So it seemed like
Speaker 1: the pick was turned into the podium before Greg got
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna watch it anyways, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that will be the thing where you're
Speaker 1: watching the all right, So I'll take the Chargers at
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Oh oh, oh, beautiful game. Beautiful game. And
Speaker 1: we have Justin Herbert, who's a man possessed and absolutely
Speaker 1: in the running right now for um M v P. Hey,
Speaker 1: but guess what Lamar Jackson. He's already been an m
Speaker 1: v P and he just put together one of the
Speaker 1: great performances that I remember on Monday Night football in
Speaker 1: terms of a just a going off and being unstoppable
Speaker 1: for a long stretch of play. So you have to
Speaker 1: four and one teams here, um fighting it out first place,
Speaker 1: a f C West, first place, a f C North, Greg,
Speaker 1: does it? Do you take anything one for me? Now?
Speaker 1: I would have been haven't been more excited about a
Speaker 1: game all season. You'll still be able to watch it.
Speaker 1: It's just that was maybe when your draft, when the
Speaker 1: card comes in, you've gotta be ready to turn it in.
Speaker 1: You gotta get up to that podium. I mean, Greg,
Speaker 1: if you were this excited, if it's the most excited
Speaker 1: you've been for a game, I don't know what what
Speaker 1: the pause was when you were I wasn't really thinking.
Speaker 1: I wanted to, like, look at it. Let's see what's
Speaker 1: that one and four? Anyway, So the Ravens, you know,
Speaker 1: very easily could have lost the game against the Colts. Uh,
Speaker 1: do you take anything out of that that they kind
Speaker 1: of got lucky a little bit Monday In addition to
Speaker 1: everything else and the Chargers, meanwhile, are just a more
Speaker 1: impressive team through five weeks. So if you want to
Speaker 1: go with luck, they're both one of two of the
Speaker 1: luckiest teams in the league. Depends if you want to
Speaker 1: how much you put into like winning games like that
Speaker 1: is skilled or luck, because the Ravens have come from
Speaker 1: way behind three different times this year, and the Chargers,
Speaker 1: I tend to think have just closed really well. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they've gotten lucky, but certainly they've hit
Speaker 1: a million fourth downs where the game would have been
Speaker 1: totally different. They've outscored opponents fifth the nine different the
Speaker 1: profiles of the games have been, they've been a little
Speaker 1: different than there. But they're the two best closers in
Speaker 1: the league, is what I mean, Lamar and Herbert, They've
Speaker 1: the Chargers have outscored opponents and the fourth quarters, which
Speaker 1: is just crazy to think that the Chargers are the
Speaker 1: clutch team now, like the Chargers of the clutch team
Speaker 1: making smart decisions at the end, and the Ravens are
Speaker 1: the like way more imbalanced team because they can't run
Speaker 1: the ball. I think that's been a little under the
Speaker 1: radar that like the running game is bad, Like the
Speaker 1: Chargers have closed out multiple games, including against the Browns,
Speaker 1: being able to run the ball somewhat, whereas the Ravens
Speaker 1: can't run it. Everyone who just got on Greg Roman
Speaker 1: over and over. It's like you've only got one thing
Speaker 1: you can do. It's like they're totally different. Now it's
Speaker 1: working like, oh, you're predictable. They are anything but predictable
Speaker 1: now they are a past heavy team. I want to
Speaker 1: see a little more Tyson Williams though, enough of this
Speaker 1: like uh, yesterday's news, Uh collection of players that they
Speaker 1: keep trotting out there. Tyson Williams at least has some juice.
Speaker 1: It's different to be the Steelers who can't run the ball,
Speaker 1: and it's Big Ben sitting back there, versus the Ravens
Speaker 1: and it's Lamar Jackson. I think any coaches like you
Speaker 1: still have to Lamar can still the ball. But he
Speaker 1: can't even even in that game last week. I think
Speaker 1: that was a he's not running it that well on
Speaker 1: design runs right now they're not running and the fumbles
Speaker 1: and like talk about creating your own luck though, I mean,
Speaker 1: both these teams go for it on fourth down. Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: you know, metrically is the best thrower on third and
Speaker 1: fourth down in the league right now, and it looks
Speaker 1: that way. And the Ravens they had drives of eighty seventy, seventy,
Speaker 1: seventy five and sixty eight yards down the stretch against
Speaker 1: the Colts. That's not luck. And you know it is
Speaker 1: luck though he Lamar did lose a fumble, lost the
Speaker 1: fumble of the goal line and he came within a whisker,
Speaker 1: a cat's whisker of losing the game with another another
Speaker 1: goal line fumble. Uh so, yes, I guess there is
Speaker 1: some fortune around this team for sure, But as much
Speaker 1: as like we could get like, oh, they need to
Speaker 1: figure out their running game. They leave the entire NFL
Speaker 1: and yards per game they have four yards per game.
Speaker 1: And then what you said about Baker and his inability
Speaker 1: to kind of zone in and take control of that
Speaker 1: game in the big spot like Herbert is on the
Speaker 1: other side of the field. Maybe that's why they won
Speaker 1: forty two because Herbert you put him in a big
Speaker 1: spot and he just is one of those guys that
Speaker 1: gets better. Uh this, this it might be could be
Speaker 1: the best quarterback matchup of the year. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I that's why I draft. But you waited too long.
Speaker 1: Now that's the problem. It's also got a potential offensive
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year versus Defensive Rookie of the Year
Speaker 1: matchup where they actually are against each other in ray
Speaker 1: Sean Slater versus uh Oda f A o A, who's
Speaker 1: both of them are playing lights out? Slaters turned into
Speaker 1: maybe if you could redraft all the tackles from the
Speaker 1: last two years, people might take Slater above them all.
Speaker 1: That's how good he's looked and o Wa has been incredible. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like these Neither defense is very good.
Speaker 1: The Ravens defense is below average. This year. Chargers defense
Speaker 1: just kind of gives up yards, so I would expect
Speaker 1: it to be a shooting. Later was on Myles Garrett
Speaker 1: and they kept trying to help him with chip blocks,
Speaker 1: and he said, enough with the chip block, I'll handle
Speaker 1: it myself. And he did fine. What we talked about
Speaker 1: it down to theirs mark the Myles Garrett decorated his
Speaker 1: house for Halloween and has tombstones with quarterbacks names written
Speaker 1: all over them, and he has a Justin Herbert toot
Speaker 1: like you got I mean, first of all, maybe not
Speaker 1: you can update he didn't get a sack. He didn't
Speaker 1: get a sack. Well, maybe that's how he's monitoring whether
Speaker 1: or not the quarterback is in under six ft under
Speaker 1: the earth. I mean, the Browns lost, so you know,
Speaker 1: all right, Greg, you are on the clock. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you are on the c and guess what it's snaking
Speaker 1: to you? So you're not gonna get popped by anybody
Speaker 1: behind you? All right, I'll take the the worst game
Speaker 1: possible since I'm just gonna watch Ravens. Anyways, Texans colts
Speaker 1: off the top op. Uh. That is a terrible, terrible pick.
Speaker 1: I think the Texans should be happy they get it
Speaker 1: to see Davis Mills for another week. It's like if
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor was ready to come back. And some people
Speaker 1: are been conspiracy theorists being like, are they trying to tank?
Speaker 1: Because you know it's maybe he should be back and
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil's now out for a month with the surgery. Um,
Speaker 1: Davis Mills just played the best game any quarterbacks him
Speaker 1: on the bench, right, any rookie quarterbacks played this year.
Speaker 1: I was shocking, but he made some great throws on
Speaker 1: the move. So you want to see him for another week.
Speaker 1: And if you're the Colts. I think you still feel
Speaker 1: like you have a chance here this season. Their offense
Speaker 1: has looked a little better each and every week. I
Speaker 1: think Carson Wentz has looked a little better each and
Speaker 1: every week. You might get t Y Hilton back at
Speaker 1: some point somewhat soon. Uh. You gotta just take care
Speaker 1: of business here. And that's why you know so many
Speaker 1: reasons why that was just a brutal loss on Monday
Speaker 1: night for the Colts. If you find a way to
Speaker 1: win that game on Monday, then you got the Texans
Speaker 1: right after that in your building, and then your three
Speaker 1: and three, and that could put you in a first
Speaker 1: place tie after week six in your division. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is that's what we're talking about in terms of
Speaker 1: what's going on the a f C. South Um. But
Speaker 1: to that point, even with that loss, if you get
Speaker 1: this win you get and you get to two and four,
Speaker 1: you're hanging around in your division. I guess market is
Speaker 1: a kind of a measuring stick game. I talked about it.
Speaker 1: How you know some losses are so bad it can
Speaker 1: ruin your season. Don't get beat here. Don't let Davis
Speaker 1: Mills light you up the way Davis Mills lit up
Speaker 1: the Patriots in Week five. I mean, it's a huge
Speaker 1: If there's any team on the how do you respond, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, bus, it's the Cults, because that's the kind
Speaker 1: of thing where you could end a season for a
Speaker 1: team that's not mentally tough. I think they are. Uh.
Speaker 1: If Davis Mills does does what he did last week
Speaker 1: or anything close, he becomes a thing. I mean, I
Speaker 1: thought he made incredible throws on fourth down late in
Speaker 1: the game. I love what the offensive coordinator did early
Speaker 1: on their first drive was an eighteen place seventy nine
Speaker 1: your touchdown drive that took ten minutes off the clock
Speaker 1: against Bill Belichick, the best showing against the Patriots defense.
Speaker 1: So also, I mean, coming off maybe the worst game
Speaker 1: of quarterback's played by Davids Mills against Buffalo the week
Speaker 1: So let's see what he does. I mean. But if
Speaker 1: you're the Texans, Tyrod Taylor back in there, it's a
Speaker 1: lost season. Find out what you have and keep an
Speaker 1: eye on Jonathan Taylor, who's been heating up the last
Speaker 1: two weeks. Remember, by the end of last season, he
Speaker 1: was all but unstoppable, and that could be a major right.
Speaker 1: Their defense played their best three quarters of the year
Speaker 1: by far in Baltimore and their offensive line played their
Speaker 1: best game of the year, so I thought they had
Speaker 1: some good things in that game. All right, I need
Speaker 1: a late game. Well, I needed a game that I'm
Speaker 1: not going to really watch because I'm gonna watch, but
Speaker 1: you will watch it because to be professional. Well, I
Speaker 1: will later in the week on game. But what about
Speaker 1: Sunday night? That's your don't you understand what we're doing here.
Speaker 1: We watched two games and then a third, and then
Speaker 1: we talked about it Sunday night. Right, but with the
Speaker 1: bye weeks, I'll be fine, It'll work out. No, but
Speaker 1: you have to be able to know. Okay, park underst
Speaker 1: it would be me that needed a rules refresher. But
Speaker 1: it's you just have to have eyes on that game.
Speaker 1: And that's a rough game to have eyes on, even
Speaker 1: if your primary game, you're paying attention to his charges
Speaker 1: right as you can't not watch the game you just
Speaker 1: drafted third. Overall, it's just called Texans, Go ahead, Raiders, Broncos.
Speaker 1: I'll take late. Uh, this is a big game. Each
Speaker 1: of these teams two game losing streak, both feeling like
Speaker 1: their season could really start going next level. Like in
Speaker 1: the hole, if they lose this game. I'm not really
Speaker 1: of the mind that the Raiders are lost because they
Speaker 1: just got rid of like some demigod who was probably
Speaker 1: not that fun to play for in the first place.
Speaker 1: For the next thirteen weeks. I just think there's been
Speaker 1: this weird idea that like, oh, the Raiders are done
Speaker 1: now because John Gruden's gone. And I think there's an
Speaker 1: equally good chance that John Gruden being out of the
Speaker 1: buildings are positive that, you know. I think you could
Speaker 1: almost feel that with some of Mayok's uh quotes, this
Speaker 1: is a guy that wasn't a lot of fun I
Speaker 1: don't think to play for. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: necessarily be better and that their flaws go away. But
Speaker 1: I certainly don't think that losing John Gruden means the
Speaker 1: team is in way worse shape. I know now because
Speaker 1: of everything that happened. Now, John Gruden wasn't worth the
Speaker 1: damn but he was a very important person in that building,
Speaker 1: and he was the offensive coordinator essentially, and he was
Speaker 1: the guy that worked with Derek Carr, that coached him
Speaker 1: up got him to a much better place. With him
Speaker 1: just disappearing, I don't think you could say that that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and now you have the special it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: But why saying I mean, I'm saying I don't think
Speaker 1: it makes them worse necessary or did we hear you're
Speaker 1: saying like people didn't like playing for John Bruden. I
Speaker 1: don't remember hearing a lot of that before this happened.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he has been the most important person
Speaker 1: in them being a below average franchise for four years,
Speaker 1: So getting rid of him in any other scenario, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, oh, they're screwed. Now they have professional
Speaker 1: you know, people love Possaccia. You know, big time Pisaccia
Speaker 1: fan Greg Olsen's you know called play for Derek carb Heads.
Speaker 1: Not like he hasn't been a coordinator in the league.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's just a big rotation, like on
Speaker 1: the fly. I guess that's kind of where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1: By the way Mike Mayock spoke with the media about
Speaker 1: everything that's gone on, here was here was this kind
Speaker 1: of over arching thoughts will start here with what's going
Speaker 1: on around the Raiders. The way I grew up, the
Speaker 1: Raiders always stood for diversity. They had the first Latino quarterback,
Speaker 1: Tom Flores. He's also became the second Latino head coach.
Speaker 1: The first African American head coach was Art Shell. The
Speaker 1: first female CEO was Amy Trusk. Obviously, all of that
Speaker 1: was under Al Davis's watch. This week, his son Mark Davis,
Speaker 1: I think had tough time. He had a tough week,
Speaker 1: and then he was asked about, you know, with the
Speaker 1: comments that leaked, the Grooten emails and how that reflects
Speaker 1: on a primarily black locker room. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: Carl Nassa, the first ever openly gay player, was also
Speaker 1: on the Raiders and who requested and received of a
Speaker 1: personal day on Wednesday away from the team. May I
Speaker 1: hit that as well. I've talked to several of the
Speaker 1: black players. Okay, I think we've reached out to a
Speaker 1: bunch of players, black and white. Everybody's got emotions and feelings.
Speaker 1: I've talked to some of the people in my department
Speaker 1: that are black and my my my director of pro scouting,
Speaker 1: and I just said, DJ, I can't put myself in
Speaker 1: your shoes. Help me. So we've spent a pretty good
Speaker 1: amount of time trying to trying to help these guys
Speaker 1: and talk with these guys and not talk out at them,
Speaker 1: but with them. And the other thing I would say
Speaker 1: is just for Carl, let's be honest, he's a community
Speaker 1: of one that's openly gay. Okay, Um, we do have
Speaker 1: a large community of African American players and and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do We're trying to do everything we can
Speaker 1: for that community as well. Obviously it started there. Okay,
Speaker 1: nobody's forgetting that. We're talking and I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: to work with everyone, and we're going to continue to
Speaker 1: do that. Well. I think that shows that your focus,
Speaker 1: no matter how much you wanted to be just on
Speaker 1: the Broncos, is in all sorts of other places. Because Greg,
Speaker 1: I kind of even hear what you're saying that maybe
Speaker 1: the Grooten experience leaving the building from a football angle
Speaker 1: from a refresher angle might for some people be up
Speaker 1: maybe mayok, like there was a power vacuum there, but
Speaker 1: the idea that so many people trusted Gruden and then
Speaker 1: you find out all this stuff like these are young people.
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people affected. And
Speaker 1: also what it doesn't change though, is that the Raiders
Speaker 1: team that I've watched over the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: cannot run the ball. They cannot stop the run. Their
Speaker 1: offensive line has been a disaster. They had eight holding
Speaker 1: penalties last week, one which took away a touchdown that
Speaker 1: turned into a field goal. That's a big problem for
Speaker 1: Derek carr Um. I don't buy into the stuff that
Speaker 1: Derek Carr isn't tough this or that anyone playing NFL
Speaker 1: quarterback as long as he has I don't those questions,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of players feel the same way.
Speaker 1: Don't care about that issue. But he is under duress,
Speaker 1: and he's certainly, like a lot of other quarterbacks, not
Speaker 1: the same quarterback when that's happening. And I look at teams,
Speaker 1: no matter who the coaches, when you cannot run, cannot
Speaker 1: stop to run. The offensive line has major issues with
Speaker 1: players moving to positions they never played. You've got issues
Speaker 1: against the Broncos defense. By the way, the Broncos, how
Speaker 1: about be a little more creative on offense. Like I
Speaker 1: understand that you know you you don't have Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: at quarterback, but you go watch the way they came
Speaker 1: out last week against Pittsburgh. Zero creativity. Three drives that
Speaker 1: each went for about twenty yards total. Come on, pat
Speaker 1: Shermer Mmm, Pat Shermer heat. I mean it is one
Speaker 1: of those situations where like everything everyone said the whole
Speaker 1: offseason ended up being right, which is the offensive line
Speaker 1: moves that they made. It's killed them. It's just killing
Speaker 1: their season. The Raiders like can't function on offense because
Speaker 1: of their offensive line. But this is a good matchup
Speaker 1: for it that Broncos have one of the worst pass
Speaker 1: rushers in the entire NFL. I think there second or
Speaker 1: thirds of last and past rush win rates basically von
Speaker 1: Miller and then County on the secondary. Where do you stand,
Speaker 1: just to mark about his team in the Browns, where
Speaker 1: you standing on the Broncos Right now? Through five weeks,
Speaker 1: Teddy's come down to earth a little bit the defense
Speaker 1: I thought he played. Maybe it's been one of his
Speaker 1: best games last week. It's not a good situation when
Speaker 1: I think Teddy is beating any expectation that I had
Speaker 1: for him. Uh, and the team is not good, Like
Speaker 1: the strength that they were supposed to have are not strength.
Speaker 1: Right now you have Hammler, Judy and a KOI boon
Speaker 1: him out so that you had this like six pack
Speaker 1: of guys that we're gonna be catching passes, three of
Speaker 1: them are gone. You thought the pass rush with Chub
Speaker 1: and Miller it would be good. Chubb isn't there the
Speaker 1: pass which is bad. And then the secondaries like kind
Speaker 1: of sprung some leeks too. So these strengths that I
Speaker 1: was expecting haven't really been strength. Teddy's exceeded well. I
Speaker 1: like that. I I know, I know we were not
Speaker 1: huge fans of Teddy. He played great last week in
Speaker 1: that game against Pittsburgh, like in just in terms of
Speaker 1: offensive and he ended the game but an interception and
Speaker 1: the end zone. How I thought he played really well
Speaker 1: in that game. If you go throw to throw, I
Speaker 1: thought it was probably his best start of the year,
Speaker 1: including the first three weeks. He is number one in
Speaker 1: the league uh in e p A plus completion percentage
Speaker 1: over expected. I don't think he's the best quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league, but it kind of shows how they've moved
Speaker 1: the ball efficiently. He hasn't made any mistakes, but you
Speaker 1: need him to just if if him being average is
Speaker 1: not enough, they're not going to be. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: gotta win this game. You gotta find a way to
Speaker 1: win this game. If you don't beat them, you're on
Speaker 1: a three game losing streak, and then you go to
Speaker 1: Cleveland and I guess it kind of gets back to
Speaker 1: the Teddy experience, like he's not going to take your
Speaker 1: team and lift them up when there are a lot
Speaker 1: of issues around it. He's he's a good guy when
Speaker 1: things are set up well around him. He's kind of
Speaker 1: like a Sam Donald type. Um. But yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with the Broncos this week. I kinda they're
Speaker 1: gonna get some kind of like that spice rack thing,
Speaker 1: the you know, pick the team that has a lot
Speaker 1: of drama rallying around chaos. All right, I'm up. I
Speaker 1: will select the final late game on the board. Cowboys
Speaker 1: at Patriots. Cowboys have been awesome, just awesome, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I you look at them and they just
Speaker 1: had a three, three game homestand where they just kind
Speaker 1: of went off and flex their muscles and they out
Speaker 1: They outscored the Eagles, Panthers, and Giants to six. Um.
Speaker 1: They passed the ball well, they run the ball well. Uh,
Speaker 1: they are much better on defense, and they have something
Speaker 1: really interesting cooking here and that they have a legitimate
Speaker 1: m v peak candidate and doc they have a legitimate
Speaker 1: rookie Defensive of the Year candidate and MIKEA. Peters and
Speaker 1: they have a legitimate defensive player of the your candidate
Speaker 1: and Trayvon Digs. That's the recipe for a lot of WS.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're a jugger not. I don't know why
Speaker 1: everyone like is clinging on so hard to their previous
Speaker 1: Cowboys opinions that there anything, but you know, the best
Speaker 1: team in the NFC are one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's just that's just who they are.
Speaker 1: It's very it seems very obvious. Maybe things could change,
Speaker 1: but the offense isn't gonna change. The defense is not
Speaker 1: just like getting by They're like a top ten type
Speaker 1: of defense right now. I was stunned that this game
Speaker 1: started as almost an even point spread before betters you know,
Speaker 1: went heavy on the Cowboys and moved it to four.
Speaker 1: How is it even possible? I know the Patriots are
Speaker 1: a legacy brand, but typically the line's smarter than that
Speaker 1: even at the start correct Well, who knows, Like, like,
Speaker 1: what's the case? Like the Vegas made so much money
Speaker 1: on almost the entire country picking the Bucks, you know
Speaker 1: as heavy favorites. A couple of weeks ago, and the
Speaker 1: Bucks didn't cover that game. Maybe it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a residual effect that like the Patriots at home
Speaker 1: will cook some stuff up. But I don't get it,
Speaker 1: because sure the Patriots could come up with one of
Speaker 1: their great game plans to slow it down and Mac
Speaker 1: Jones like it's possible, But these aren't the Patriots. They're
Speaker 1: negative three and turnover margin. That's like the most Unpatriots
Speaker 1: thing possible. Jonna Smith is a disaster. And their defensive rankings,
Speaker 1: to me, are entirely a reflection of the teams they've played.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've been a particularly good defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're twenties six and scoring two. And I could see
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you know, on a weekly basis putting up
Speaker 1: thirty five, and this is kind of the Cowboys team
Speaker 1: that we did believe in a few years ago. P
Speaker 1: F has them, you know, as of yesterday, their number
Speaker 1: one offensive line. Uh, they're dominant on the ground. Pollard
Speaker 1: it leads to league in yards per carry, and I
Speaker 1: think he has about fifties something, you know, carries compared
Speaker 1: to about eighties something for Zeke. So it's both of them.
Speaker 1: They're very effective, and I mean They've got arguably the
Speaker 1: best cast of whiteouts in the in the NFC, and
Speaker 1: it's working. I mean, it's it's basically what was happening
Speaker 1: on offensive year ago before Dak went down. But on
Speaker 1: the flip side, Dan quick and has the defense simplified
Speaker 1: and organized, so it's a more complete team. And the
Speaker 1: Patriots in theory are built to stop the run, but
Speaker 1: they really haven't been. They haven't looked good. Lawrence Guy
Speaker 1: and Dante Hite are both have looked a lot older
Speaker 1: this year, and those are two guys that normally stopped
Speaker 1: the run. Well. They both are coming off their best
Speaker 1: games of the season against Houston, so maybe that's a
Speaker 1: little bit to feel better about if you're a Patriots fan.
Speaker 1: But they just they just seem like they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: enough answers to slow Dallas that I know. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of juice, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: it's been fairly muted in general. With Mac Jones, but
Speaker 1: the fact that four four out of their five games
Speaker 1: he's over completion percentage, and then you look at like
Speaker 1: you look at some of the other rookie quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: how much they're struggling. I think if you're a Pats fan,
Speaker 1: you're feeling really good about Jones. Maybe not right now.
Speaker 1: Maybe right now it's you know, he's a guy that
Speaker 1: he makes a lot of turnover where he plays every week,
Speaker 1: and and he's not somebody that's gonna get you jump
Speaker 1: out of your seat like a Trey Lance or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I feel like he's developed thing. And I'm Patriots
Speaker 1: fans aren't more into Mac Jones because I think he's
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think he's played really well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean and that was I know it's the Houston Texans,
Speaker 1: but you know that is the type of heady type,
Speaker 1: drive down the field stuff that first of all Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick dreams about with a smile on his face and
Speaker 1: be like first year quarterback. He I think he seems
Speaker 1: like he's ready to progress and this time next year
Speaker 1: is going to be leading this offense with confidence, and
Speaker 1: I'd be feeling good about it if I'm a Pats fan.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's been under the radar. Why
Speaker 1: is that. I think it's the comparison game too, because
Speaker 1: it go remember his pro day when we did our
Speaker 1: podcast that day where he did at the same time
Speaker 1: as Justin Fields and fields makes you get up out
Speaker 1: of your seat with some of the stuff he does.
Speaker 1: And Matt Jones just fits I think well into a system.
Speaker 1: And I mean his arm strength. I might have a
Speaker 1: few questions about that, but he I think he manages
Speaker 1: New England really well. But it's like you then are
Speaker 1: watching Patrick Mahomes. The offense is bad, like he has
Speaker 1: felt like the least of their problems to me relatively,
Speaker 1: you know, a justin for having a rookie quarterback. I
Speaker 1: mean John new Smith is a disaster. You know, why
Speaker 1: do you say he's a disaster just because of his
Speaker 1: I mean lack of offensive output or is there more
Speaker 1: to it? He's block. They're all they're having him do
Speaker 1: now is block and he's not even doing that. Uh
Speaker 1: he hasn't you know, he said so many drops. He's
Speaker 1: not making explosive plays. He just doesn't seem confident at all.
Speaker 1: Nelson Agilar, I wouldn't say as a disaster, but he's
Speaker 1: fairly close. I mean, I'd rather have Jacoby Myers or
Speaker 1: Kendrick Borne on the team the rest of the year
Speaker 1: than Nelson Aglar, who you were expecting to come in
Speaker 1: and make a big impact. The offensive line has been disappointing,
Speaker 1: and now they're really injured. They might be missing three
Speaker 1: of their starters again this week. It's you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of everything around Mac and I think it's it's
Speaker 1: tougher to sign like a huge free agent class when
Speaker 1: you don't know who your quarterback is. You didn't know
Speaker 1: it was going to be a rookie quarterback rounding into
Speaker 1: shape because on the flip side, like Matt Judean seems
Speaker 1: like Bill bel stream player. Judan has been great, but
Speaker 1: they spent a ton of money on their offense to
Speaker 1: make it better and it's just not working right now.
Speaker 1: It could you know, last week there were some positive signs.
Speaker 1: Who knows, like they here's what they gotta do is
Speaker 1: win one of these games, because they have about every
Speaker 1: other week they play one of the best teams in
Speaker 1: the league. They had the Box a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: They they have another couple of tough ones, Like they
Speaker 1: gotta win one of these to get in the mix.
Speaker 1: But else they're gonna keep being two and four and
Speaker 1: three and five and just be a forget about news.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna win this game, and I'm so certain
Speaker 1: of it. America's team, and you know what, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? Desert three and a half points? Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: running to lock this game up because what what about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys tells you they're gonna trip up on the
Speaker 1: Patriots who just are relentlessly middling at this stage. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after this. All right, here we go,
Speaker 1: We're back, Mark, you're up, baby, two in a row. Well,
Speaker 1: I've just done a greg thing. Enough, no idea what
Speaker 1: what game to pick here? But actually, you know what
Speaker 1: I like this one o'clock vikings at Panthers offering early
Speaker 1: in the day. Two teams that interests me, especially Carolina.
Speaker 1: And i'd ask you this with the with the Panthers,
Speaker 1: are you concerned more about Sam Donald after what we
Speaker 1: saw last week where I mean he made some mistakes.
Speaker 1: You don't have Christian McAffrey. It sounds like McAffrey could
Speaker 1: be back time position didn't he didn't practice on Thursday.
Speaker 1: So now it's starting to be like, oh, they might
Speaker 1: be I think I think sometimes it's like it just
Speaker 1: makes sense that when Christian McCaffrey exited the picture that
Speaker 1: and the competition jumped up that Donald could run into
Speaker 1: some issues. And that's exactly what's happened against Dallas in Philadelphia. UM,
Speaker 1: I think Donald is good when things are cooking and
Speaker 1: you have a nice set up around here and the
Speaker 1: opponent is right. But I think we're seeing some of
Speaker 1: these traits, uh from his time in New York, where
Speaker 1: you can get into some bad habits sometimes and makes
Speaker 1: some mistake throws and and you've seen that last two weeks.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going away. I think this is
Speaker 1: the Sam Donald experience. I'm curious to watch it go
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. But he is top
Speaker 1: five in the league in fumbles, sacks taken, and interceptions.
Speaker 1: So normally if like a quarterback with four actually in
Speaker 1: each uh, if if a quarterback is in the top
Speaker 1: four of each of those, you would think he was
Speaker 1: one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. Now, he's
Speaker 1: made a lot of really good plays, even last week
Speaker 1: in that in that game, like he's made good throws
Speaker 1: and when he has to go to the second and
Speaker 1: third read, things get wonky. But there's just way too
Speaker 1: many negative plays and that I like the Vikings and
Speaker 1: Danio Hunter and Everson Griffin to kind of get after
Speaker 1: him because that Panthers a line has gotten a little
Speaker 1: bit worse each week too. I don't know that. The
Speaker 1: thing is I like seeing Dante Jackson last week for
Speaker 1: the Panthers defense, Hassan Reddick, like they just seem to
Speaker 1: have guys that show up week after week. Um. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Shack Thompson will be back this time around,
Speaker 1: but they didn't have him a week ago. But the Vikings, I,
Speaker 1: you know, you look at the Lions game, in the
Speaker 1: Browns game before that. Kirk Cousins is playing fine, but
Speaker 1: they have not. They have they have lost, you know,
Speaker 1: their way on offense to some degree. They still can
Speaker 1: be explosive plays. You still see Kirk Cousins making Keith
Speaker 1: throws to feeling down the stretch last week. That helped
Speaker 1: set up that win. But that was the Lions. I
Speaker 1: banged up wanting Lions defense. So I just view the
Speaker 1: Vikings as a team that could underwhelm under Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: week after week, or they might surprise you. The Panthers,
Speaker 1: to me, at least, are consistently coached well week after week,
Speaker 1: and I think they're daring. They went forward on fourth
Speaker 1: and one from their own thirty five two weeks ago
Speaker 1: they'll do anything it takes. I like guys like Tommy
Speaker 1: Tremble and Hubba Hubbard. This team to me is exciting.
Speaker 1: I'm interest Hubba Hubba. I think it's Cuba Hubbard. Isn't
Speaker 1: Chubba Cuba? Cuba? Yeah? Um yeah. The Vikings, you know,
Speaker 1: you guys know, I like the Vikings, but they're killing me.
Speaker 1: They're impossible to figure out, and they're so up and down.
Speaker 1: And you know in week four they score right off
Speaker 1: the right off the bat against the Browns and then
Speaker 1: going to a shell for the last fifty five minutes
Speaker 1: of game time, lose that fourteen seven, and then it
Speaker 1: gets the lines, what's what are we doing here? How
Speaker 1: are we not? How are we not in your building?
Speaker 1: And I know you don't have Dalvin Cook, but Madison
Speaker 1: has been a good reserve for them. How are you
Speaker 1: not running the Lions out of that building? How do
Speaker 1: you almost blow that game? It was like they had
Speaker 1: a first down with the ten point lead with like
Speaker 1: three minutes right but even before that, it was like
Speaker 1: it got into that situation. So then you almost blow
Speaker 1: the game. And then Greg Joseph, of all people, he did,
Speaker 1: Joseph like bails you out with a kick. But it's
Speaker 1: like who who can you expect against the Panthers. I
Speaker 1: think it's a it's a good game because both these
Speaker 1: teams are a bit unpredictable at this juncture. UM. I
Speaker 1: really would like to see Christian McCaffrey back. I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting and notable when we take now that he
Speaker 1: didn't practice on Thursday. UM, I wonder if that means
Speaker 1: we're gonna see Cuba again. Yeah, that's I. I thought
Speaker 1: this Vikings team was going to be so good running
Speaker 1: the ball after weeks two and three, and then they've
Speaker 1: been pretty inconsistent, because that's how you beat the snow Patrol.
Speaker 1: You run right through them. They're like their edge defense.
Speaker 1: You know, they got steamrolled by Dallas. Everyone gets steamrolled
Speaker 1: by Dallas, but they got steamrolled more than everyone else.
Speaker 1: And then last week late in that game, the Eagles
Speaker 1: actually ran the ball when they wanted to on the
Speaker 1: edge to kind of put them away. So you'd like
Speaker 1: to see a little Dalvin Cook, a little Madison running
Speaker 1: through them. Mark all right, I've got a second early game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go rams at Giants. Uh. This Giant's team,
Speaker 1: I just I you know, some of these um I
Speaker 1: don't know who they annoyed up in the heavens where
Speaker 1: you cannot get any of their players on the field
Speaker 1: at the same time. You know, watching se Kwon Barkley
Speaker 1: getting carded off Daniel Jones um really disturbing. Kind of
Speaker 1: drunken hobble after he was head injury? Is that how
Speaker 1: you call that headed? Well, you had the drunken hobble
Speaker 1: is perfect, and then the head injury not as good.
Speaker 1: Don't you know? Head injury works for me. I think
Speaker 1: this is a game where the injury to the head
Speaker 1: suffered a brain injury. That's another way to go with it.
Speaker 1: I hear you go ahead, can cost Stafford? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like Stafford makes these and he he gets in sync
Speaker 1: with the offense and they have huge, you know quarters
Speaker 1: they had like against the Seahawks last time we saw them,
Speaker 1: their third quarter they had two hundred and eleven yards
Speaker 1: for sixteen to the Seahawks. And they can do that.
Speaker 1: They were also o for five on third downs in
Speaker 1: the first half. I just they're streaky, and I feel
Speaker 1: like Stafford is a little bit streaky inside this offense.
Speaker 1: I wonder, you know what Sean McVeigh would say about
Speaker 1: him at this point. I think he's been very good.
Speaker 1: But has he been is some some metrics will sizz
Speaker 1: suggest he's sort of just in the middle on his
Speaker 1: overall place. He's missed a lot of throws. The scheme
Speaker 1: has opened it. I don't think he's played that well.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. I mean, I don't have
Speaker 1: him in the top ten because you have to evaluate
Speaker 1: the head or behind Teddy Bridgewater. He's definitely um Teddy's
Speaker 1: in the middle. Stafford just has a pretty good degree
Speaker 1: of difficulty and so many drives and because he misses throws.
Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about it because the fact that
Speaker 1: they have these open throws that's what matters. And going
Speaker 1: against this Giants defense, which hasn't really been what we expected.
Speaker 1: You know, they lose Dalvin Tomlinson and suddenly they can't
Speaker 1: stop the run. Uh, they really don't get after the
Speaker 1: quarterback very well. Like, there's not a lot of reason
Speaker 1: to think the Giants defense is going to slow them
Speaker 1: down for long. And on the other side, they're just
Speaker 1: like it's another week of like, who's gonna play for
Speaker 1: the Giants? Kenny Galladay probably not, se Quon Barkley probably not.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones probably will, and that's the key one. He
Speaker 1: gives them a chance because he will have the most
Speaker 1: important play around the Giants, which is Candarius Tony. Do
Speaker 1: you love you Tony? I mean it was it took
Speaker 1: one game to realize, like, this guy is gonna make
Speaker 1: every draft Nick who killed Gettleman for this pick and
Speaker 1: then killed him even more as he was having a
Speaker 1: bad offseason, like, oh, you guys were all so wrong
Speaker 1: because it's just like it's so obvious. And then literally
Speaker 1: the next game he goes for a eighty nine. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's that to lie? It reminds me a lot of
Speaker 1: Odo Beckham coming in after being out at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season, just being like, oh, this guy is
Speaker 1: going to be a star. Who Becky? He's this guy
Speaker 1: on the Browns. He's like, I think he's behind Brushard
Speaker 1: Higgins and totally yeah, what happened there? Mark? How do
Speaker 1: how do they score forty two points and he gets
Speaker 1: two catches for twenty yards? What is going on? Tony
Speaker 1: fits this? It was good to see. It feels like
Speaker 1: it happened a million years ago because we were in
Speaker 1: London on top of it, but it was gonna see
Speaker 1: Robert Woods back in that offense. Fourteen targets, twelve catches,
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty UM against the Seahawks, and I
Speaker 1: just think, yeah, Stafford, you again, you can look at
Speaker 1: the numbers and he has missed some throws, but they
Speaker 1: they're often so much better this year with him involved
Speaker 1: instead of golf. And when you have Cooper Cup. I
Speaker 1: know Sean Jackson has been quiet, but he's healthy, Tyler Higbee,
Speaker 1: and then you add Robert Woods to it with a
Speaker 1: running game, that's fine. Uh, the Rams are just gonna
Speaker 1: keep winning. This is a twelve win team to me,
Speaker 1: maybe favorites or something on the road here, Darryl Henderson,
Speaker 1: I think matters for this team when he plays. I
Speaker 1: just think they're better and and Jackson like is in
Speaker 1: the perfect spot. He makes one big play a week
Speaker 1: that's like exactly what you ran out of gas against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. But I do think it helps that Stafford
Speaker 1: gets an extra what three or four days with the
Speaker 1: finger that he messed up as well. Such a frustrating
Speaker 1: season for Giants and their fans. By the way, you
Speaker 1: blow that Thursday night game against Washington, You somehow find
Speaker 1: a way to lose to Atlanta on Eli Day, and
Speaker 1: then you have this really emotional big win at the Superdome,
Speaker 1: and then you're fighting the Cowboys hard in the first
Speaker 1: first half and then se Kwan steps on a foot
Speaker 1: and blows up his ankle, Jones gets head injuried, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, call the leaves the game and it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh man, we can't get it going. So it's been
Speaker 1: a tough year, um for New York football. All right,
Speaker 1: up next the old Zuser. Alright, one more pick for me,
Speaker 1: one more for Greg and the drafts done. My pick
Speaker 1: will be this is kind of in an indictment on
Speaker 1: where they are right now. The Chiefs available late in
Speaker 1: this draft heading to Washington. Indictment of Washington too, because
Speaker 1: they were supposed to be kind of good and fun
Speaker 1: and buzzy this year. So Chiefs at Washington a pair
Speaker 1: of two and three teams. This was the first time Sunday,
Speaker 1: Greg where I was watching, uh the Chiefs, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried. I'm a little bit worried about
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Kansas City Chiefs that we
Speaker 1: know they have problems on defense and you assume a
Speaker 1: team of their pedigree, they'll get coached up and they'll
Speaker 1: make adjustments and maybe get to where they need to
Speaker 1: be about average. But the offense is the inability to
Speaker 1: execute and the failures um and the backbreaking turnovers. You
Speaker 1: could look at it and say, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: little flukey, and they're they're happening in bunches, but the
Speaker 1: history tells us isn't something to continue. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, they're happening, and we're now deep into October
Speaker 1: and you just lost your starting running back and it
Speaker 1: just feels like against the Chiefs, right it is. I
Speaker 1: mean the part where you're saying you're you're they're hopeful
Speaker 1: you get back to average. On defense, I think that's
Speaker 1: the thing I'm most concerned about, because I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's coming. I don't know if I see the
Speaker 1: pass rush, if I see the personnel. The turnovers were flukey,
Speaker 1: and that Bill's game, you know, the Mahomes turnovers were
Speaker 1: totally flukey, and they did help change that game. But
Speaker 1: the game plan to stop the Chiefs is consistent, and
Speaker 1: I am a little surprised that they don't seem to
Speaker 1: have a great counter for it, and the game plan
Speaker 1: is like make them work down the field very slowly,
Speaker 1: back your safety is up, and hopefully something crazy will
Speaker 1: happen along the way. And so it's sort of built
Speaker 1: into the game plan dan these flukey turnovers, like make
Speaker 1: them go on ten fifteen play drives and hope you
Speaker 1: get Ahold the penalty or a weird play, and it
Speaker 1: keeps working. I throughout the stat that Mahomes has fewer
Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty plus yard plays this year than Zack Wilson,
Speaker 1: Taylor Heinarchy, Mac Jones, some other Hammond egger that I
Speaker 1: kind of insulted just by putting on the way. Second,
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's not a hamm and Egger. He's just learning
Speaker 1: the sport, my man here. So here's the question. So,
Speaker 1: if your defense is designed to stop the Chiefs from
Speaker 1: the big play that was, logic would dictate that there
Speaker 1: should be a ton of space in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field for Patrick Mahomes to pick you apart. Is
Speaker 1: this a situation where if you can somehow uh negate
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, and if you can, you can't throw to
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey every time. Do they not have enough weapons
Speaker 1: around Patrick Mahomes, and that's why they're able to be
Speaker 1: taking advantage of in this way, I think that you
Speaker 1: could look beyond so nobody's getting open. You can look
Speaker 1: beyond Kelsey and Hill and say that even going into
Speaker 1: the year, there were questions about the depth in terms
Speaker 1: of weapons. But I am like, not watching football for years,
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna overworry about the at the watching football. Well,
Speaker 1: so should we panic as if we don't think so?
Speaker 1: Because a week ago and I led the charge, I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, the Chiefs man seven drive, six touchdowns,
Speaker 1: f you for even thinking that they're not gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: But then another game like that happens and it's just
Speaker 1: like this, like this aura of invincibility is starting to
Speaker 1: fade a little bit, and I'm just wonder if like
Speaker 1: there's too much pressure on the offense. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it is on you know us who a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, we're thinking, well, let's just ticket
Speaker 1: like we did Aaron Rodgers coming off the two thousand
Speaker 1: and ten season, Patrick Mahomes for five or six Super
Speaker 1: Bowl trophies, which is just impossible to do that and
Speaker 1: do it alone. Necessarily, there's like one person that's done that,
Speaker 1: and the offense is not as healthy. And like look
Speaker 1: at like last year in the Super Bowl, losing your
Speaker 1: offensive line, your tackles completely neutralized them. They have other
Speaker 1: issues to deal with. I think the bigger problem is
Speaker 1: that you're better. Teams can take advantage of their totally
Speaker 1: wanting defense. And I mean both Washington and Kansas. They're
Speaker 1: giving up the most and second most points in the league.
Speaker 1: So you think that maybe even Taylor Heineke could have
Speaker 1: a big game in this one, but um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I trust their offense to you, you would. And
Speaker 1: it's it's a battle of two and three teams. And
Speaker 1: people are are down on are down on the Chiefs
Speaker 1: right now, but I'm not. Oh oh. And people might say, okay, well,
Speaker 1: Washington football team, you've had a great week being back
Speaker 1: in the news. Um uh, you're gonna play strong. It's shot.
Speaker 1: They're retiring Sean Taylor's name, they just and then jersey number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's overdue. That's nice and he deserves every honor. Um
Speaker 1: it it is weird that you find out four games
Speaker 1: four days before the game. You figure that they would
Speaker 1: be inspired. But now I'm still going to take the
Speaker 1: chief to build be this terrible defense unlock that's barely
Speaker 1: under the bare. No, it's not gutsy whats I do
Speaker 1: want to say one quick thing about Washington. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just honking too much. Yes, you talking about if they
Speaker 1: were the Cowboys, like people would just be killing Jack
Speaker 1: del Rio, And how embarrassing this defense is. They're the
Speaker 1: worst coach defense in the league. Every week there are
Speaker 1: two plays where guys are yelling at each other and like,
Speaker 1: I thought you had him, you had him, and guys
Speaker 1: are just streaking wide open, Like that's coach. To your point,
Speaker 1: William Jackson, who they signed for forty million plus said
Speaker 1: after they gave up that terrible hail Hail Mary play
Speaker 1: a week ago where it like the Ritz the players
Speaker 1: were just looking like, hey, what happened here? He said,
Speaker 1: we weren't expecting them to go hail Mary there. A
Speaker 1: regular football team will try to get a couple of yards.
Speaker 1: You didn't call it a little early, which is a
Speaker 1: play I like, I do like that, you know, call
Speaker 1: it with twenty seconds I don't know, ready for them
Speaker 1: to go over there. And another team doesn't do that,
Speaker 1: and there's Deante harris Is touchdown earlier, like the safeties,
Speaker 1: it's Landon Collins is often involved. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's his fault, but he's often involved where it's like
Speaker 1: we don't know who's got who. And Jack del Rio meanwhile,
Speaker 1: is just like skating through, you know, killing killing John
Speaker 1: Gruden this week, which you know he should but I
Speaker 1: don't know. Actually, just you know, lay low and work
Speaker 1: on your team because you're embarrassing your team defense this year. Here,
Speaker 1: said Ron Rivera. I'm very frustrated because we have too
Speaker 1: many good football players to not be better than what
Speaker 1: we are right now. That's true. They have been one
Speaker 1: of the more disappointing teams in the league. Tyler Heneke
Speaker 1: or Taylor Heneck, he's the only one that's keeping them
Speaker 1: at all fun to watch. And your boy Terry McLaurin,
Speaker 1: all right, their crowd stinks too. There would be a
Speaker 1: lot of Chiefs fans there. I know, you know, every
Speaker 1: every Washington game, I know what I'm just saying, Like
Speaker 1: last week, you would have thought it was a Saints
Speaker 1: home game, which I've never seen. It's like, wow, it
Speaker 1: felt like a Saints home game in Washington. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are many hyper passionate Washington football team fans. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's the acoustics of the building. Maybe it's too big
Speaker 1: a building, you know, that's I think it's the biggest stadium. Uh.
Speaker 1: Your savage takedown in the entire fan base seems untoured.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't blame them. It's been a tough
Speaker 1: couple of decades. All right, here we go, Greg, close
Speaker 1: out the draft. Okay, how do we leave the all
Speaker 1: the time of the world fighting Bengals came up a
Speaker 1: gotcha for number two. I know this. It's ruined. My
Speaker 1: whole show ruined. Sunday. I don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 1: Do we have that? Bengals? Lions? You know, I love?
Speaker 1: This is another very lockable game. I wonder if Mark's
Speaker 1: about to do so, because, yeah, the windless Lions are
Speaker 1: only three and a half point underdogs, which is surprising
Speaker 1: considering no one on their team is healthy. You know
Speaker 1: your team has problems when you lose Quentin c Sis
Speaker 1: for the season, and I'm just like, I don't think
Speaker 1: they can recover. I'm just like, Okay, at some point,
Speaker 1: you lost too many players. You're now like going into
Speaker 1: you know, deep deep receivers and all sorts of positions
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I want to see the Bengals just
Speaker 1: like go in and put a whooping on them like this.
Speaker 1: That would be the new Bengals team because they should.
Speaker 1: Yeah they I mean the defense has lost a number
Speaker 1: of people in Detroit. They give up ten yards per
Speaker 1: past attempt, which is the most in the league. That's
Speaker 1: great for Joe Burrow and I just this Bengals team
Speaker 1: is so resilient. There's something that's so different about them,
Speaker 1: obviously than in previous years. And I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it's an interesting matchup. I wouldn't never lock this though,
Speaker 1: because I have no idea what's going to happen in
Speaker 1: this thing. Like both teams like games to come down
Speaker 1: to the very end. Gregg, that feels like a lock. Uh.
Speaker 1: I feel like the lines have gotten a lot of credit,
Speaker 1: and duly so for like trying at the end of
Speaker 1: the games and coming back. But when you watch all
Speaker 1: sixty minute, they don't look like a good team. They
Speaker 1: look like they should be owing five. That's all their
Speaker 1: talent deficient team that's lost many of their best players
Speaker 1: to injury, and now there's just like I guess Jared
Speaker 1: Goff is gonna wheel them to some whims all so
Speaker 1: far has not happened. How about how about this week
Speaker 1: for Jamaar Chase over Pine Sua Twitter, because I think
Speaker 1: we reached the point last week where it's just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Bengals are right not I don't need if it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Sewell And he might have
Speaker 1: a great career too, and you can debate about low
Speaker 1: tackles versus receivers, but it's like Jamar Chase is gonna
Speaker 1: be great. He changes their entire offense. Would pay Sewell
Speaker 1: even if he's playing well, changed their offense like that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'd rather all in fairness.
Speaker 1: In fairness, Panas Swell is the guy they see is
Speaker 1: a long term left tackle or you know, crushing right tackle,
Speaker 1: but left tackle. If he is at the skill level
Speaker 1: of I guess Jamaar Chase at that position. Yes, you
Speaker 1: can make the conversation, but but that's actually not what
Speaker 1: the draft pedigrees were. I guess to that level Jamar Chase,
Speaker 1: we had seen it in college that he was an
Speaker 1: absolute terror that could not be covered. UM. And I
Speaker 1: think it just more than anything, UM, it just makes
Speaker 1: the case that we don't need to be doing podcasts
Speaker 1: in July, well, right, because it's all it's It was
Speaker 1: just open reaction to the fact that maybe he's not
Speaker 1: a pro receiver. He's got drops all over and we
Speaker 1: were sitting there with with Will Black and in the
Speaker 1: sky studios at the stadium and he was just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, he put it well, which when the balls
Speaker 1: in the air, Chase just like knows it's his ball.
Speaker 1: And that's like a hard thing to measure, but I
Speaker 1: think it makes sense that he didn't test incredibly well,
Speaker 1: and you were like, uh, is this gonna translate perfectly?
Speaker 1: But there's something about him like a t o. Although
Speaker 1: he would have his drops, it's just like that ball
Speaker 1: is his, He's gonna go get the ball. I thought, well,
Speaker 1: put it really well, because yeah, he said basically some
Speaker 1: guys and there are very few of them. I think
Speaker 1: you mentioned Odell when O'Dell came out, was similar Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: He was a wide receiver on the Giants, was a
Speaker 1: major star. I don't know where he is now, but um,
Speaker 1: he's just better. He knows he's better than you, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who's lining up against him. He's got
Speaker 1: that ball, that's his um and that's that's where this
Speaker 1: guy's at. And I think, yeah, we all kind of oh,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and apology. We kind of Jamar Chase an apology
Speaker 1: because it was just piling on about some practice drops.
Speaker 1: And he's arguably the best wide receiver in football this season.
Speaker 1: WHOA that means that might well put him? Who's better? Who?
Speaker 1: Who can you say is like better than Jamaar Chase
Speaker 1: Cooper to five? Is it a conversation? Now? I don't think. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, But if you factor that he's
Speaker 1: a rookie off, do you think he's probably the rookie
Speaker 1: I guess if you want to get cute and give
Speaker 1: it to Slater Cooper, Cups would probably the Davante Adams
Speaker 1: are kind of like Davante Adams in terms of production
Speaker 1: is peerless, and Cup has been amazing for the person.
Speaker 1: I know the numbers aren't there, but just watching Jefferson
Speaker 1: and he's in Jamaar Chases this year's version of Jefferson.
Speaker 1: But just in terms of impact, big time plays, game
Speaker 1: changing plays, no one's had as many as Chase. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Um, Alright, let's go through the rest
Speaker 1: of the games here. Let's start. We have a London game,
Speaker 1: the second London game International series at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.
Speaker 1: Has it already been I don't know four days. Were
Speaker 1: in that stadium for fourteen hours, Greg Rosenthal. They got
Speaker 1: another game. It is Dolphins at Jaguars one in four
Speaker 1: against oh and five. Tough match up here. I think
Speaker 1: the biggest subplot of this game is my quarturoy jacket
Speaker 1: that I bought uh in London. I left sitting on
Speaker 1: a chair in the Sky Sports suite and I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering if it's going to be recovered and somehow get
Speaker 1: back to me because some of them listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: perhaps Neil, if you happen to listen, I DM Neil
Speaker 1: Sunday night and he never replied. I mean they should
Speaker 1: fed exit to you. I'm done with you. I got
Speaker 1: what I needed television content when you came to England.
Speaker 1: I will not recover y'all jacket. Um No, but I
Speaker 1: left it on a chair. It was thirty five pounds,
Speaker 1: which is like fifty five bucks or something here, and
Speaker 1: I'd like to get more than one day usage out
Speaker 1: of it. I would love to get that jacket back
Speaker 1: I did. I kind of said, let's turn back the
Speaker 1: clock a little bit. I used to love Quartu roy
Speaker 1: jackets in the mid nineties. Uh, forty one year old dad.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's cool and what's not cool anymore.
Speaker 1: So I just said, I said, screw it, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wear this jacket. Felt good, felt coman you were you
Speaker 1: were on a jumbo tron with sixty people. Gotta feel
Speaker 1: good about it, jacket, I you're gonna wear in front
Speaker 1: of It's also it's a it's a bit of a
Speaker 1: power move just to wear it, to buy it for
Speaker 1: thirty pounds or whatever you said it was, where it
Speaker 1: for one day and just leaving a stadium and say,
Speaker 1: don't care. Maybe just act like you're good. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do need it back because I don't have
Speaker 1: that type of disposable income just to want and done jackets.
Speaker 1: That's not my thing. Anyway. If you find it, let
Speaker 1: me know, all right, next game. Anything on Dolphins Jaguars
Speaker 1: now TOA is practicing again? Sounds like play. Um, does
Speaker 1: that mean he's starting in London? He's expected to start
Speaker 1: at this point. They haven't h said anything, but that's
Speaker 1: kind of the expectation. Yeah. I mean, is there a
Speaker 1: bigger mess of a team that had higher expectations than
Speaker 1: the Dolphins? I don't think so. We we talked about
Speaker 1: this a little bit on Sunday, I think, and it's
Speaker 1: just like where they were, the path that they were
Speaker 1: supposedly on to where they are now. It's it's a
Speaker 1: pretty shaky situation and you don't really know what to
Speaker 1: hold put your hat on right now with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are the perfect team to get right now
Speaker 1: because obviously it's a winless team and you can kind
Speaker 1: of get yourself right and go into the bye and
Speaker 1: then hit reset. So I think things set up well
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins here, but I don't know if a
Speaker 1: bye week is going to magically fix what ails them
Speaker 1: right there in their third year under Floris, and the
Speaker 1: first two years felt ahead of schedule, but now they
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, they're almost you know, they look
Speaker 1: like a team that was as bad as before Floras arrived.
Speaker 1: If he can't cook up Trevor Lawrence, who seems imminently
Speaker 1: cooka ball right now in terms of confusing him and
Speaker 1: getting them late and making a couple of big time
Speaker 1: mistakes that lose in the game, then you start having
Speaker 1: to work wonder about like the vision here, they keep
Speaker 1: cycling guys in and out on defense, Like, let's get
Speaker 1: it together, Miami, let's win this game. I thought hard
Speaker 1: about locking it because I really do think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get Henry Hudson and Nat Coombs and all those UK
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans a win. There's a lot of them out there.
Speaker 1: We saw him in the crowd on Sunday. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of UK Dolphins fans. There's a lot of UK
Speaker 1: uh Jaguars fans, a lot of Bordles jerseys out there.
Speaker 1: But the problem is, like it's like London is gonna
Speaker 1: start taking this game. This personally sending these teams if
Speaker 1: they do, if they're three and fifteen, these teams that
Speaker 1: in London this year, but this way, if they go
Speaker 1: to Germany next year, and let's how they do. And
Speaker 1: they announced there was three finals cities and Germany gets
Speaker 1: in a mix, and then you send like chiefs Bucks there.
Speaker 1: England's gonna start a war. I mean it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Revolutionary War Part two US Great Britain and we're gonna
Speaker 1: be in a tough sitch, you know what. It might
Speaker 1: be is like they're they're almost too easy to please
Speaker 1: because it's like a super Bowl atmosphere. You've you've been there,
Speaker 1: and I felt it even more in this one. The
Speaker 1: crowd was insanely good for a Falcons jet scheme. I
Speaker 1: mean they were so into it. They were so loud
Speaker 1: every like whoever was scoring, They're going absolutely insane uh
Speaker 1: it really and it was like Jets Falcons, let's let's
Speaker 1: give him, so we have to offer. It's like the
Speaker 1: boyfriend or girlfriend that's like two nice for their own
Speaker 1: good and they just getting they're gonna take advantage of
Speaker 1: right we're sending them. Jamal Agnew and Tavon Austin has
Speaker 1: like legitimate parts of this Jaguars offense. And I also
Speaker 1: want apologize to Neil Reynolds, who actually did get back
Speaker 1: to me while I was sleeping that night. He said
Speaker 1: he just saw it and he's gonna ask the production
Speaker 1: manager on site and if they find it, they're gonna
Speaker 1: mail it to me. So Neil Well buried like minutes ago.
Speaker 1: I buried Neil without even looking at the Gregg. It's
Speaker 1: done that and you've made your Let's let's move on.
Speaker 1: Last game, right, Hey guys, it's Larry. Let's once again
Speaker 1: we'll travel back across the pond where the four Dolphins
Speaker 1: take on the too Much For no other good reason
Speaker 1: but spite I'm locking up the Jaguars this week, one
Speaker 1: of these teams has to win. Why you ask, this
Speaker 1: is what happens when the other brothers don't let me
Speaker 1: lock up the Browns in a big spot Mark Happy
Speaker 1: birthday if you're feeling better. The recovery is going great, Ricky,
Speaker 1: keep up the good work. We'll see you guys. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: These lesson brothers. They don't care about the competition. They
Speaker 1: just want to bury each other week after week. And
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I appreciate them for that.
Speaker 1: That this is so it's kind of it's no longer
Speaker 1: about our podcast. It's just this internal battle that we
Speaker 1: actually have a window into it. And it's just that's
Speaker 1: been going on for years. I mean, it feels very
Speaker 1: Jaguars esque if things continue to slide the way they
Speaker 1: are there. But um, I love the in fighting. I
Speaker 1: can only imagine what it's like to be live in
Speaker 1: that house with all those brothers. I don't know, no
Speaker 1: slight to the other Wesleyan Brothers, but I want more Tim.
Speaker 1: I really like what Tim delivered here. That was Larry,
Speaker 1: wasn't it Larry? Larry? No, Larry wants the Westling Brothers
Speaker 1: to lose, to get back at them for not letting
Speaker 1: him lock up the Browns earlier this season. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about that for a second. So did he send
Speaker 1: that like as a rogue transmission? Do they even know
Speaker 1: that that's the lot that did come? Um? The gatekeeper
Speaker 1: here is Nick Nicks, the one that sends him my
Speaker 1: way bad um? So I think they're all in on it.
Speaker 1: Larry is the youngest, you know, It's it's tough for
Speaker 1: the youngest. Got to get back at him. All right,
Speaker 1: Here we go Packers at Bears. This one didn't get drafted. Uh,
Speaker 1: And it's because I think it's just because the Bears
Speaker 1: are I made a horrible mistake and was untiled after
Speaker 1: the whole Chargers Ravens, So you got the factors at
Speaker 1: the Bears. The Bears are three and two, And people
Speaker 1: will get crazy mad at me because I just I'm
Speaker 1: so stubborn moving him up the power rankings. But I
Speaker 1: just I feel like this is the same as the
Speaker 1: Bears last year. Only rememberhen the Bears got hot in
Speaker 1: December and they ended up sneaking in the playoffs, But
Speaker 1: at no point did you feel like the Bears are
Speaker 1: actually not that bad. That's kind of what I feel.
Speaker 1: But then then you have to look at it from
Speaker 1: this perspective. Justin Fields is getting his feet wet, and um,
Speaker 1: it's not a high life factory right now, but it's
Speaker 1: good that he's getting the reps and he's getting opportunities
Speaker 1: in there at least have a game plan in place
Speaker 1: that's giving him a chance. And the defense the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and really for most of the season,
Speaker 1: has been lifting them to victories, which is maybe not
Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen level, but it's been better and
Speaker 1: opportunistic and that's really why they've won three or five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see them differently than last year's team. I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but I guess what's what's similar is
Speaker 1: that they handed over play calling to Bill Laser last
Speaker 1: year and it worked. Nag takes it back because Nagy
Speaker 1: is crazy, um, and now they've handed it back to
Speaker 1: Bill Laser. And I thought, at least against the Raiders,
Speaker 1: I saw ad Bears offense that had some identity. I
Speaker 1: mean to have David Montgomery out of the lineup and
Speaker 1: still run the way they did. Um. I like that
Speaker 1: a lot. I am locking up the the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers because it's a very lockable game. They are on
Speaker 1: the road, but I trust them to do just enough
Speaker 1: each week. They seem a little out of sink to
Speaker 1: me at times. But Davante Adams locked him up last
Speaker 1: week and got got a fortunate that McPherson hit hit
Speaker 1: it off that I like that I had. I generally
Speaker 1: have a tumultuous relationship with the Packers, but I am
Speaker 1: using them for my own good. Here's the standings in
Speaker 1: the lock competition through week five. Dan and Mark both
Speaker 1: riding four game winning streaks four and one, the listeners
Speaker 1: over on the subreddit, and the Westling Brothers both three
Speaker 1: and two. Greg, you've bounced back nicely after the oh
Speaker 1: and three start. You're now two and three. Ricky somehow
Speaker 1: has a win. I don't really believe it, but she's
Speaker 1: one in three. So that's the standings where we're at all. Right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Unless you have something on the Packers
Speaker 1: you wanted to share, Greg from your notebook. I just
Speaker 1: I think they need to get more players involved, like
Speaker 1: the lack of depth on their offense. They are not
Speaker 1: a great offense right now. Now they've played some pretty
Speaker 1: good defenses and this is another one. But like I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Mark, I kind of expected to be a
Speaker 1: close game because remember Alan Lazard. Remember remember Marcus Valda Scantling.
Speaker 1: Isn't he show up? You know? Come off, Tonyan, Tonyan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happened to Bobby Tony? You know remember that the
Speaker 1: st Brown back in the day. I mean, not no
Speaker 1: one has produced in their receiving corps except for Adams
Speaker 1: who's having a great year and the running game is great.
Speaker 1: I mean, I actually think that one to punch is
Speaker 1: right there with anyone outside of Chubb and Hunt. I
Speaker 1: would put Zeke and Pollard and then maybe maybe you
Speaker 1: go with the Packers duo right next. So they have things,
Speaker 1: but like their thirteenth and e p A right now,
Speaker 1: which is kind of an offensive efficiency. They were number
Speaker 1: one last year. They're just like they're they're struggling a
Speaker 1: little bit on offense. And this bears front. You mentioned it.
Speaker 1: They get after you. Robert Quinn. It's a year late,
Speaker 1: but he's been worth worth all the money this year.
Speaker 1: It's um. It's not really surprising though, is it with
Speaker 1: the Packers on some level because that season last year
Speaker 1: was just so as like everything came together and they
Speaker 1: just got rolling and they just stayed rolling. But given
Speaker 1: the personnel, it doesn't surprise me that they would fade
Speaker 1: back a little bit this year. And that means other
Speaker 1: facets of the team need to be better, because I
Speaker 1: don't know if I see the Packers like turning back
Speaker 1: into last season, because that felt like a special year
Speaker 1: for them on offense, maybe that's foreboding. I didn't agree
Speaker 1: they could get some players back, including back d r
Speaker 1: and Jenkins. It should really well. Other teams like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are rising up to you don't just ticket them
Speaker 1: for the title game? Right this this game. If Justin
Speaker 1: Fields could ever beat the Packers in his first start,
Speaker 1: and you know it's going to be defensive lead, but
Speaker 1: to make enough plays, oh that would be like a
Speaker 1: fun little narrative street like you know, out for my law,
Speaker 1: kind of like Greg, I hope you're right, continue. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm sick of the Packers just like kind of
Speaker 1: like skating by each week. Alright, the forty Niners, Falcon, Jets,
Speaker 1: and Saints all on buy. And I think that's it.
Speaker 1: I think we got everything, unless Graver or you've got
Speaker 1: something that I missed, But I think that's every game.
Speaker 1: I think he covered it. Good all right, good stuff
Speaker 1: again Greg tonight with Nate Tice. We like Nate Tys,
Speaker 1: good xs and ose Guy Vegas. Guy got a nice
Speaker 1: got a substack. What's the substance? It's a collection of
Speaker 1: articles and film studies that he does that I subscribed
Speaker 1: to during my exodus. You pay for the substack? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. Do you to support my friend Nate Tys?
Speaker 1: Do you expense it? Or do you that will be
Speaker 1: happening at some point and see if I can slide
Speaker 1: it pie. You know, I don't even know who my
Speaker 1: boss is anymore, but I'm a subscriber to. I was
Speaker 1: going to give him the plug on tonight, but now
Speaker 1: he's now he's doubling up here. He's got a sub
Speaker 1: what was it a substat substack? Substack? That's good. Can
Speaker 1: we get substacks? I mean I've thought about it. Required
Speaker 1: extra work, No, well to put the stuff out there
Speaker 1: that you know, NFL dot com says, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to talk about this, well, I'll talk about it
Speaker 1: on this other platform and maybe charge seventy cents for
Speaker 1: readers months like what you didn't see on the Power
Speaker 1: Rankings show. Power Rankings Plus, I don't think that's where
Speaker 1: I would go with my sub stack is a second,
Speaker 1: there'd be other things to mind, all right, Rosenthal Entice
Speaker 1: tonight and then we're back on Sunday. And don't forget
Speaker 1: the Power Ranking excuse me. Power Rankings though, is Tuesday's
Speaker 1: NFL network at three pm Eastern, but the around the
Speaker 1: NFL broadcast. Oh boy, this thing has taken off ratings
Speaker 1: Juggernaut every Saturday. Check it out on the network, set
Speaker 1: the dvr. Okay, good stuff, Thank you Grave Digger for
Speaker 1: filling in. Hopefully Ricky's back on Sunday. Dan had a
Speaker 1: signing off four Quiet Star the old Boss Grave. There
Speaker 1: are still Friday. He've the call s