1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast back in Hollywood, Park Baby 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: from the Chris Wesley Podcast Studio. It's the Around the 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I'm Dan hansis joined by Greg Rosenthal and 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Say I left a little pause in there, Mark, 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: the audience absence makes the heart grow fonder. People are 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: so hot for Cessler right now. Your brand is very big. 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Dipping away helped you in a way. Maybe you do 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: it again in a few weeks, you know, just throwing 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: it out there. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's only 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: downhill at this stage. If now that I'm present and 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: doing the job that they're you know, in theory requested 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: me to do that, the popularity dips. I think you 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: just stay out. I mean, that's just probably the next move. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: But we're gonna make a big deal out of every 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: milestone for Sunday Show. Mark's first Sunday show back. I mean, 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: I have been to this office previously for about twenty 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: hours totally not even I mean more like two hours. 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: But it's so it's very strange to be back, but 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: it's nice to be back in the Chris Wesley Studio, 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: one of the best rooms in all of l A. 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: You mentioned before that we are in Hollywood Park. It's 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: neither Hollywood. It's definitely not a park. I don't know. 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: There's nothing about this place that would suggest a child's well, 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a child's area. But the branding 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: is spot on, you know, Tinseltown baby, um Mark. I 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: think it's something I you know, it's a little bit 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: of a sensitive topic. UM. So I didn't bring it 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: up on Tuesday. This could go anywhere, so the first 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: show back. But I think it's it's kind of hoping 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Greg would bring it up, but I will your prediction, 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: your sandwich predictions about um, a coach resigning, about a 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: cheerleader being made really involved in the story or a 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: story is I don't want to be out of school here, 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: but maybe a little on the nose that you were 35 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: that that correct? Is it possible that you had something 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: to do with this, that you were in the emails somehow, 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: that you were part of the whole controversy? Just put 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: it out there. I am seeing that. Um, that's been 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: thrown at me online multiple times, and in my only 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: response would be if there's any benefit to have never 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: been in the category of insider on any level? UM, 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: that just I mean, I've not provided inside information over 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: the course of a decade inside this company. Why would 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: I suddenly be Well, you could be deep throat. Deep 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: throat in this case is not going public. You decided 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: to take you know, he or she um you know 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: contributed to this story and ultimately got you sandwiches, So 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: you would have a motive. I mean, I think from 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the other, you know, the other person's angle. Why include me? 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: There's no upside for any other person that I win 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: sandwiches on a podcast in a distant state. I don't 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: know all I'm saying. It feels absurd to me that 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: I would suddenly be seen as a man with inside information. 54 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I simply made a very correct prediction, multiple very correct predictions, 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: and and that you did. And we will be touching 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: on what's going on around the Raiders with their new 57 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: head coach Greg Rich coming up a little bit later. 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna go through all the games of week six. 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: A little bit later tonight, we will be recapping the 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Philadelphia Eagles with Greg Rosenthal and 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: mystery guests Nate Tye joining me tonight. Whoa Nate Tye? 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Good one Good one pencil behind the ear maybe we'll 63 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: see UM and then we're gonna go through all the 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: recaps of all the games, UM in addition to Thursday 65 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: Night foot Bell on Sunday, our flagship program. But first 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: we got a preview all of week six and we 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: do a draft style. But before we get to that, 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: let's start with the prime time games. And if we 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: start with the prime time games, and were starting with 70 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Uh, his hand all bandaged up, leading to 71 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback having to play in prime time in 72 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: front of Al Chris in the world, that could only 73 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: mean it's time for one thing and now another edition 74 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: of You know sometimes Greg, I wondered, and I worried 75 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: that we'd never be able to play that drop again 76 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: because Gina would never have another opportunity. But here we are, 77 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: and the biggest of all spots at the age of 78 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: let's say he's about thirty. I think he's right around 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: thirty years old. Uh, he's going to Pittsburgh to play 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: a Steelers team flawed as they are at two and three, 81 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: but with a great pass rush with t J. Watt 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: leading the way with some playmakers UM in the secondary. UM, 83 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: you were concerned when We talked about Gineo in London 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: having to start a game um and really be out 85 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: there out in front. But he did play well in 86 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: relief against the Rams. How do you feel about a 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: boy Geno Smith in this spot and his team, by 88 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: the way, in the hyper competitive NFC West, desperately needing 89 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: a win at two and three themselves. I mean, I 90 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: don't feel great. It's a different thing to come in 91 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: for two quarters and look good. And Gino did look good. 92 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean he was changing plays at the line of scrimmage. 93 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman was getting all excited. He's the thirty one 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: year old I I always wondered, like, would this long 95 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: fascination with Gino Smith ever result in him ever getting 96 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: another chance, because it felt like he was on the 97 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: border line when he had a rough concussion in in 98 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: the preseason of like, could this be the end of 99 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: Gino Smith's career. It's one thing to do that for 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: two drives against the Rams. It's another for four quarters. 101 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Because the Seahawks are a bad team. I mean, that's 102 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: like the whole story of this Seahawks season is Russell 103 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: Wilson is basically the one thing that they have that 104 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: they do well. I mean they have they have lock 105 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: it in DK Metcalf on the outside, but other than that, 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: it's one of the worst offensive lines in the league. 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: It's a pretty bad running game statistically, it's one of 108 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: the worst defenses in the league. It's been basically, through 109 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: five games, one of the worst Seahawks teams. I would say, 110 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: the worst that we've seen. That's a big ask for 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Gino Smith to come in here again good yeah under 112 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: peak Carroll and look um like a guy who can 113 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: move the ball up and down the field on a 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: Steelers defense that I still have a lot of respect for, 115 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: right I think it's the Steelers defense factor. I mean 116 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: there was a play, a couple of plays and against 117 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: the Rams where I thought that essentially what you know, 118 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: some of Geno's success was the Rams defense looking a 119 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: little out of it, a little gas towards the end 120 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: of that game. But you know what he did. I 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: thought managed the game really well. I mean, he took 122 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: a lot of time at the line of scrimmage. But 123 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: they talked about the fact that like his all of 124 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: his nine completions basically were less than ten air yards. 125 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: He took what the Rams gave him. He was one 126 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: for seven on shots that were downfield, but I thought 127 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: he made some plays. But Pittsburgh with a week to prepare, 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: is gonna look at this team and say, Number one, 129 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: it's not just Gino. It's the fact that, like the 130 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: Seahawks laid in that Rams game doing all they could 131 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: to stop the Rams, they basically of the Rams like 132 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball. They put Darryl Henderson right 133 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: up the gut of Seattle's defense. Twelve yard games. Seattle 134 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: knew what was coming, couldn't stop it. I just look 135 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: at the Seattle defense. It's last in the league and yardage. 136 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: It's not the case with points allowed that about twenties something. 137 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: But this is so atypical of where Pete Carroll has 138 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: taken this team on previous journeys. And so to your point, Greek, 139 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: if you take Russell Milton Wilson out of the mix, 140 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Gino makes it a total mystery soup. And I'm not 141 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: sure where this ends. Like we'll be taping the pod 142 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: during the first half and then you know, peek behind 143 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: the curtain we started, I you know, watched the first 144 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: half as the second half, like I'm not looking for 145 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm missing this. This has been like a seven year 146 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: project for me, and we're missing the start of this game. Well, 147 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: this isn't good. I'm gonna just people are just gonna 148 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: be bombing me with like reactions, good or bad, and 149 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: I won't know what's going on. And remember, we have 150 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: a viewing theater here at the New Network offices, and 151 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: you are welcome to sit right next to me and 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: we could chop it up in the second half. And Mark, 153 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I'd love for you to join us as well. Uh. 154 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: Greg has been keeping his distance from me in the 155 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: theater and it's been an issue, um that I've been 156 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: dealing with privately, A doing like the guy thing where 157 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: you don't sit next to each other in a movie. 158 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we actually went to a movie together once 159 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: down in San Diego. I believe we sat next to 160 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: each other. We did. We sat right next to each other. 161 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: And so that Jennifer, literally no one is sitting right 162 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: next to each other. It's a big nice I think 163 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: one to two chairs space then you it's fine, but 164 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: you are eight chairs separated. That's pretty on the nose. Greig, 165 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: maybe you could sit in between the giant space that 166 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: Greg leaves between. Well maybe he was leaving a space 167 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: for me like you do at a table, the manufactured bit, 168 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers. Then the Steelers finally looked 169 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: something of a balance. Uh, found in something of a 170 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: balance on offense. Now they said season highs last weekend points, 171 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: total yards, rushing yards against Denver, and you know, Denver's 172 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: got a good defense. Uh, and especially I think the 173 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: rushing yard has jumped out because they were reaging just 174 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: over fifty yards a game in the first four weeks 175 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: of the season. And this is you know, coming off 176 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,359 Speaker 1: the Naj Harris first round pick. Harris blows up greg Um, 177 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: Roger Ben Roethlisberger has some success. Is this something sustainable, 178 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: especially against this defense? Yes, this week I was wondering 179 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: if if their offensive line played like that moving forward, 180 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: then Mark and start getting a little worried again that 181 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers are gonna do something like you were. You 182 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: were on these Steelers are gonna collapse bandwagon, I mean 183 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: for a month and a half profit totally, and then 184 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: at one and three it was like, oh, you should 185 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: have you should have stayed on it. But last week, 186 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: like they pushed the Broncos around. It's not like Naj 187 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Harris suddenly was running better. It's just they absolutely like 188 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: was pushing them backwards. If they can do that even 189 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: just a little bit, their offense could be fine. But 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: it's not like Roethlisberger played any better. He made a 191 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: bunch of mistakes in that game, and he just had 192 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool and Deante Johnson making plays for him. And 193 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: if somehow you missed it, Russell Wilson underwent surgery his 194 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: right middle finger and is expected to return no earlier 195 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: than week ten. So it is virtual mustlin territory for 196 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: something to put a sandwich on him returning earlier than 197 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: week ten. Uh No, I won't. Yeah, I just feel 198 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: like it feels very like they're gonna set up a 199 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: bar and then he's going to come back early, and 200 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: that's okay, that's a good move in life, right, But 201 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: also like, yeah, I don't want to take it away 202 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: from I think he's an incredible competitor state on the 203 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: field his whole career. But someone on our network literally said, like, 204 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: you know, he's like an incredible healer, he's one of 205 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: the best. Yeah, that I can't there's a there's a 206 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: huge mural. Well, there's murals everywhere in this new building 207 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: and right outside the commissary area, there's all these like 208 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: buzzwords for believing in oneself. And one of him is 209 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: like determination, and it's like a picture of like Russell 210 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Wilson like clasping his hands together, like biting his lower lip. 211 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: He's like drinking that concussion juice. Juice that like, it's 212 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: like that resonates with no group less than NFL media 213 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: report every time. Gino, by the way, let's win this game. 214 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't you know, maybe you win seventeen to sixteen. 215 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: Let's go see Oaks defense. Let's play some team football, 216 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: and Gino Kinn at least you're called for an embarrassing loss. 217 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: For the Steelers to in six faul to Gino Smith 218 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: in a bad defense would be nice. All right. That 219 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: was it, and that was another edition of Veno checking 220 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: on Gino Frags with incredible voice work. Let's move to 221 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Monday night football. The Buffalo Bills four and one, so 222 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: they had they had a primetime game last week. Whooped 223 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: up on the Chiefs at Arrowhead. That was grizzly, um 224 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: if you're a Chiefs fan. And now they go to 225 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee to face the Titans. The three and two Titans, 226 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: the Titans who got a big performance per usual from 227 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry in their win over the Jaguars. Here's a great, 228 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: great stat ron Henry. And we all know Henry is 229 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: the guy that does it all for the Titans. UM, 230 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: he's that important to them. He is. Without him, they 231 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: are a bad team. And this step from CBS. If 232 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: you remember the Thursday Night game and Graverman said, and 233 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: Graver why I always had the man sitting in for 234 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: grave Digger sitting in for Ricky was a little under 235 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: the weather. The Thursday Night game a couple of years 236 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: back was against the Jaguars when he had two hundred 237 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: touchdowns two hundred yards and four touchdowns UM. From that game, 238 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: it's been forty games since and it's the most productive 239 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: stretch by a running back in NFL history four thousand 240 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: seven yards over that span, just ahead of Jim Brown, 241 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: who's a guy who's a guest on the A t 242 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: L Debate Club. That's how most people know him. Actually 243 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: said that he enjoyed the interview, which I don't think 244 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: he was, you know, being phony about that. I called him. 245 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Some of his behavior when he's younger is audacious and 246 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: he goes, that's a good word, young man. All right, 247 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: Jim Brown, thanks for the compliment. Anyway, So Derrick Henry's there, 248 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: they got him. However, Mark, you have the Buffalo Bills here, 249 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: and you have a team that's hitting on all cylinders 250 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: right now, and even Derrick Henry might not be able 251 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: to handle what's coming here. Well, not to mention the 252 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: rest of Tennessee's rather bland nature, and you know, I 253 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: think a team that just sort of in the middle 254 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: of the mix. Uh Tannehill's the most sacked quarterback in 255 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: the league. And Greg, you're a d v o A guy, 256 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: there's the seventh worst team Tennessee in the league d 257 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: v o A wise. I mean, they're just they're a bland, 258 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: middle of the pack team in a rough division. And 259 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the Bills shook off their early issues on offense and 260 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: look unbeatable. I mean, they beat the Dolphins thirty five 261 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: to nothing. They were utterly unstoppable against a bad chief. 262 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Stevens like recap the whole like six weeks you were 263 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: gone or what. I just I'm looking back on what 264 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: we're just like slump that people were, you know, fretting 265 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: over for a fortnight It's like that's just early season blues. 266 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: And that was one game where they out game the 267 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: other team by a hundred and forty yards. It's the 268 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: Steelers who I think can do that to certain teams. 269 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: We're basically talking about the last time you were here. 270 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: That was the last time I was here. That's very fair. 271 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: That's the last thing that I've touched, you know, as 272 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: of your world. I do think the Bills, here's the 273 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: thing they've ad. It's not just last year laptop right now. 274 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Not true. I worked quite hard attempting to while gone, 275 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: because you can't just skip a month of these looks 276 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: like the Steelers are gonna be okay. That's that is 277 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: absolutely not accurate. Here's what I like about the Bills. 278 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: I think someone like Dawson Knox is coming into his 279 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: own like Emmanuel Sanders was by a good front office, 280 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: a really good addition. I was a team I wanted 281 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens to get him a year ago because he 282 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: plugs in really well. He's been good for them. I 283 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: think Leslie Fraser has been coordinator of the year. Material. 284 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: It's material. Gregory Russo is all over the place. I 285 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: just think it's as much the Bill's defense as the 286 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: offense in Tennessee. I don't trust them to get to 287 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: use this game as anything other than a prime time 288 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: embarrassment some degree. So the Super Bowl last year with 289 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, it was the whole thing was a blur 290 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: for us personally and everything. But like that game was, 291 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: it was so weird to watch the Chiefs getting beat 292 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: up on. But what I saw in Sunday against the 293 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: Bills was even stranger. And this is a credit to Buffalo, 294 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: where it felt like they knew everything the Chiefs were 295 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: gonna do on defense, and there was nothing when Patrick 296 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes trying to get heated up to try to get 297 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: back in that game, it was just wasn't there. And 298 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: I think that that shows you the preparation of this 299 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: team and also that they just seem they are ready 300 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: to take that next step and become a true superpowers, 301 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl level team. And I'm with you, I think 302 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: this does not set up well for the Titans, who 303 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: greg don't have a lot of I'm sure they'll tell 304 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: you they have a lot of urgency, but they're playing 305 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: in this terrible division where they're gonna win eight games 306 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: and probably win the division, and they could handle a 307 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: last here. I'm not saying that's gonna lead to them 308 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: not giving you a good effort in this game, but 309 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: it just feels like we're these are two different teams 310 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: at two different places have been the best team the league, 311 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: and the Titans are far from that. They should have 312 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: Julio Jones back this week. A J. Brown has been 313 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: was back but hasn't really produced at all this year, 314 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: which is a weird subplot of the Titans. Uh. The 315 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: only thing that Titans could hope is, you know, it's 316 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of a letdown the Bills. You know, 317 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: get that big win in prime time in Kansas City. 318 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: That's slaying the dragon. But the Bill should remember that 319 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: game last year, don't you guys? Remember they were both 320 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: undefeated Monday Night Football and the Titans destroyed. They put 321 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: a forty on the Bills. They won by about thirty 322 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: points in that game. So the Bills should be looking 323 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: for a little revenge. And we're not even allowed to 324 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: lock this one up, or else I would get on 325 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: the road. It is crazy. The Derrick henrything. I do 326 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: want to point out just like how crazy he is 327 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: right now. Not only only is he leading the league, 328 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: in you know, yards, carries and rushing touchdowns for the 329 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: third straight year, which is that's crazy. He has a 330 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: hundred and forty two carries right now. The next closest 331 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: player has ninety four. Yeah, I mean that's like he's 332 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: also you know, he's pace for because of the seventeen 333 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: games about four hundred and seventy five carries. So he 334 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: has broken every rule that there is. And there's still 335 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: a part of me that's like, I don't know. They 336 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: obviously can you keep doing this. Yeah, they're just like 337 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it, and we're gonna see if he 338 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: could keep it up. But yeah, he's on pace to 339 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: shatter the all time single season carry record and by 340 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: the way, not for nothing, the rushing record. So, um, 341 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: here's the last thing on this game from the Bill's 342 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: side of things. Since that week to since week two, 343 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: he throughout the Pittsburgh game their first in points per game, 344 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: first in points per game allowed, first, in point differential first, 345 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: and turnover differential first, and sack difference at first and 346 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: average margin of victory. Yeah, they're the best team in 347 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: football right now, and that's gonna be a lot for 348 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: Tennessee to handle, all right, let's now move out of 349 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: the prime time window and two hour draft and Mark, 350 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: since you've been out of the office, I think you know, 351 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: give you a little cookie first. Overall, pick I'm like 352 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: an expansion team, so you've got to give that person 353 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: a chance to build, you know, from the ground up. 354 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: At this point, I mean, I'm not gonna I don't 355 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: fear that one of you would steal this. But that 356 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: means you have to take the Jaguars. That does not 357 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: mean that where that is that I'll be up at 358 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: six thirty. Well, I'll be watching Dolphins Jags go ahead 359 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: most of us. Well, Um, I am going to take 360 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Arizona Cleveland because I think it's one of the best 361 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: games of the week and it's Cleveland. I think Brown 362 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: is available to draft and watch the last few weeks. 363 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I gotta admit I have to say something about the Browns. 364 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: They really annoyed me last week. Um, but I don't 365 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: understand how you come out of that game blaming everything 366 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: on Baker Mayfield. Who look at he he he has 367 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: missed throws the last two weeks. I don't think his 368 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: left shoulder has been healthy in that sling people that 369 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: have had that injury say that takes about three weeks 370 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: to get used to, if not more. There's obviously chemistry 371 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: issues with Odell Beckham that last week really costs them 372 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: costs in the week before. So I'm not here to 373 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: say that Baker Mayfield has been perfect. But last week 374 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: against Justin Herbert the Chargers, they were so injury raddled 375 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: on defense. They were down to their fourth, fifth, sixth 376 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: defensive back and those guys were getting injured in a 377 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: game where they gave up forty seven points. What about 378 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: the defense a few weeks before when Clowney was in there, 379 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: when they had their full complement of players. So you know, 380 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: they're a little healthier this week. But I don't think 381 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: it gets any easier with the Cardinals. I watched this 382 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Arizona team, and they are energy, they are confidence. They 383 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: boldly passed the ball deep, and you look at what 384 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: the front office has done. Adding someone like ron Deal 385 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: Moore was such a perfect addition that the point where 386 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is sometimes not really even the center points 387 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: that point of this passing attack. I don't I think 388 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: this is a tough another very tough draw for Cleveland. 389 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Who the one thing about the Browns I know that 390 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: like one of the best fourth quarter offenses in terms 391 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: of when they're at leading and their ground game is 392 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: churning out, which has happened in multiple games. But I 393 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: look at the Browns and kind of say, you aren't 394 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens. You aren't some of these other teams because 395 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: you can't close link games out. They should. They could 396 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: have two more wins than they do right now. You 397 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: look at them a look differently. I mean, I think 398 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: the Baker thing, like whatever, he played great, and the 399 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: offense played great against the Chargers, so I and like 400 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: the Sling thing. You keep hearing that, like how much 401 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: that bothered him. But there's also a lot of evidence 402 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: at this point in his career that he's just he's streaky. 403 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes he's really good. What happened last week had nothing 404 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: to do with his arm. Here's why people get on 405 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: him because when he gets the ball, not only does 406 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski run it on third and ten when you're 407 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: trying to put the game away, which which kind of 408 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: shows a little bit of a lack of confidence Baker, 409 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: the problem is when you get the ball with a 410 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: minute thirty left and you got one time out. I 411 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: believe at that point, that's where the quarterback takes control. 412 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: And he ran an awful two minute drive. He made 413 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of bad decisions where he throws it two 414 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: yards in the middle of the field, and that's the 415 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: moment that's like the quarterback has to be the quarterback 416 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: and he has to be the guy who runs it, 417 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: and he didn't run it, and so that's why he 418 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: gets he gets the grief, I think, and I think 419 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: it makes sense. It doesn't mean he gets all the grief. 420 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: He played pretty well, but that's the moment people like 421 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: are wanting out of Baker. May I think that's fair. 422 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: It's fair. I think that he's treated a little differently 423 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: than other quarterbacks. But but enough with Baker, because I mean, 424 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: it's Kyler Murray to me, who three months ago I 425 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: looked at this Cardinals team thinking that they were going 426 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: to be the team that took a dirt nap in 427 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: that division, even if they probably still would win seven 428 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: or eight games. And you have to give Cliff Kingsbury 429 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: a ton of credit for what they've done. And it's 430 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: not just him. I think vance Joseph on defense has 431 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: done the kind of job that could give Cleveland problems 432 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: they are, I believe one of the worst of the 433 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: fifth worst run you so nervous. Well, if they're undefeated, 434 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: and listen when remember when they added the favorite favorite. 435 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't care if Cleveland's favorite favored catching nothing. They're 436 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: catching him in the right week. Him at home you 437 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: don't have. You don't have Chandler Jones. You don't have 438 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson. You don't have Chandler Jones. There are two 439 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: of their very best players. There's some reports about more 440 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: COVID tests might be positive there. I don't know if 441 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: that's coaches or what, but the availability is pretty huge 442 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: because Clowney, Garrett, you know, McCann only you know, maybe 443 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: you get word back it sounds like, but you don't 444 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: really know if these guys are playing or not. We 445 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: don't know where do you have five games into season? Mark? 446 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: What great would you give the Browns right now? What 447 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: do you feel about them right now? B plus? Okay, 448 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: so you feel good. I think they're a B plus 449 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: team and they aren't an A team until they can 450 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: beat the Chargers and knock out other teams that are growing. 451 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: A nice opportunity though, just to kind of wipe the 452 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: taste off and you beat the undefeated team and you 453 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: get to four and two and you feel good. I 454 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: just agitated in my house watching this, and also not 455 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: at work, so you think it's a vacation day. It's not. 456 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: It's like that was such a that was such a 457 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out because they lost the game. Mark, 458 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: but you had We're in London, you're not working, The 459 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: Browns are playing. They're playing at a building that's like 460 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: a mile away from your house. You got to be 461 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: at that game. I don't have to be. You got 462 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: to get in your last chance to do it. How 463 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: do you expe First of all, like it just wasn't 464 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It was still in recovery mode of undegree. 465 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: But how would I'd explain to any of you or 466 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: anyone that I work with that I'm, you know, joking 467 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: around this entire building. All people do in this building 468 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: is go to the games across the street. But we 469 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: would not have chagrined, We would have no issue. But 470 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: I know it was not on the table mentally. All right, 471 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: let's move on. Who do you got in the game. 472 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm taking the Browns. I think they're a better team. 473 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean the Cardinals are good. But if ever the 474 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to lose a game, it's like on 475 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: the road out of conference, they're they're missing their guys, 476 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: their their offense. I had some struggles last week. Not 477 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: that that's overarching concern, but I think the Browns are 478 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: a better team. I picked Cleveland. I think like thirty 479 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: to twenty nine, but just because, and I think kind 480 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: of my My thought about the Browns is like their 481 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: defense stunk get less Sunday, but that happens every once 482 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: in a while. They came turned into attract me. But 483 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: we've seen their defense that it could be great. We've 484 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: seen the offense can be great. Browns are gonna be okay, Yeah, 485 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are due for loss. I got the Browns too, 486 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: all right, before Greg's up, let's take a break. All right, 487 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: let's move to Greg. Oh should should have thought about 488 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 1: this little ahead of time? And now my computer is 489 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: frozen and he loses his draft spot. I raced in 490 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: like the Vikings getting banged the other day. All right, 491 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: I will take Chargers at Ravens. Oh got you know? 492 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: You got Vikings? No, you got Vikings, baby, I gotta 493 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: take Lamar and justin wait, a second mark. You have 494 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: to decide this because this never happened. But he had 495 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: the clock, just like what happened to the vikings at. 496 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: I know, but so I'm I'm I'm thrust back into 497 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: the studio and must create alight between Greg and I. 498 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: It's Lamar, it's Herbert. That doesn't mean you only appreciate 499 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. No, but I've I've put in the world. 500 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: I feel like Greg is really strict about the locks. 501 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: And if he's going to be that strict about that, 502 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: there was no rules to this in terms of time, 503 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: and I'm just we're waiting for my This computer is 504 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: from two thousand and fourteen, two unfree. That's your issue. 505 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: So he has he been hopscotched. So it seemed like 506 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: the pick was turned into the podium before Greg got 507 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna watch it anyways, it doesn't really matter. 508 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: All right, Well that will be the thing where you're 509 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: watching the all right, So I'll take the Chargers at 510 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Oh oh, oh, beautiful game. Beautiful game. And 511 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: we have Justin Herbert, who's a man possessed and absolutely 512 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: in the running right now for um M v P. Hey, 513 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: but guess what Lamar Jackson. He's already been an m 514 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: v P and he just put together one of the 515 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: great performances that I remember on Monday Night football in 516 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: terms of a just a going off and being unstoppable 517 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: for a long stretch of play. So you have to 518 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: four and one teams here, um fighting it out first place, 519 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: a f C West, first place, a f C North, Greg, 520 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: does it? Do you take anything one for me? Now? 521 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: I would have been haven't been more excited about a 522 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: game all season. You'll still be able to watch it. 523 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: It's just that was maybe when your draft, when the 524 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: card comes in, you've gotta be ready to turn it in. 525 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: You gotta get up to that podium. I mean, Greg, 526 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: if you were this excited, if it's the most excited 527 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: you've been for a game, I don't know what what 528 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: the pause was when you were I wasn't really thinking. 529 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to, like, look at it. Let's see what's 530 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: that one and four? Anyway, So the Ravens, you know, 531 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: very easily could have lost the game against the Colts. Uh, 532 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 1: do you take anything out of that that they kind 533 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: of got lucky a little bit Monday In addition to 534 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: everything else and the Chargers, meanwhile, are just a more 535 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: impressive team through five weeks. So if you want to 536 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: go with luck, they're both one of two of the 537 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: luckiest teams in the league. Depends if you want to 538 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: how much you put into like winning games like that 539 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: is skilled or luck, because the Ravens have come from 540 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: way behind three different times this year, and the Chargers, 541 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: I tend to think have just closed really well. I 542 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: don't know if they've gotten lucky, but certainly they've hit 543 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: a million fourth downs where the game would have been 544 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: totally different. They've outscored opponents fifth the nine different the 545 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: profiles of the games have been, they've been a little 546 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: different than there. But they're the two best closers in 547 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: the league, is what I mean, Lamar and Herbert, They've 548 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: the Chargers have outscored opponents and the fourth quarters, which 549 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: is just crazy to think that the Chargers are the 550 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: clutch team now, like the Chargers of the clutch team 551 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: making smart decisions at the end, and the Ravens are 552 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: the like way more imbalanced team because they can't run 553 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: the ball. I think that's been a little under the 554 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 1: radar that like the running game is bad, Like the 555 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Chargers have closed out multiple games, including against the Browns, 556 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: being able to run the ball somewhat, whereas the Ravens 557 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: can't run it. Everyone who just got on Greg Roman 558 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: over and over. It's like you've only got one thing 559 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: you can do. It's like they're totally different. Now it's 560 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: working like, oh, you're predictable. They are anything but predictable 561 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: now they are a past heavy team. I want to 562 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: see a little more Tyson Williams though, enough of this 563 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: like uh, yesterday's news, Uh collection of players that they 564 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: keep trotting out there. Tyson Williams at least has some juice. 565 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: It's different to be the Steelers who can't run the ball, 566 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: and it's Big Ben sitting back there, versus the Ravens 567 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: and it's Lamar Jackson. I think any coaches like you 568 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: still have to Lamar can still the ball. But he 569 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: can't even even in that game last week. I think 570 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: that was a he's not running it that well on 571 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: design runs right now they're not running and the fumbles 572 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: and like talk about creating your own luck though, I mean, 573 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: both these teams go for it on fourth down. Justin Herbert, 574 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: you know, metrically is the best thrower on third and 575 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: fourth down in the league right now, and it looks 576 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: that way. And the Ravens they had drives of eighty seventy, seventy, 577 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: seventy five and sixty eight yards down the stretch against 578 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the Colts. That's not luck. And you know it is 579 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: luck though he Lamar did lose a fumble, lost the 580 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: fumble of the goal line and he came within a whisker, 581 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: a cat's whisker of losing the game with another another 582 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: goal line fumble. Uh so, yes, I guess there is 583 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: some fortune around this team for sure, But as much 584 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: as like we could get like, oh, they need to 585 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: figure out their running game. They leave the entire NFL 586 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: and yards per game they have four yards per game. 587 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: And then what you said about Baker and his inability 588 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: to kind of zone in and take control of that 589 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: game in the big spot like Herbert is on the 590 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: other side of the field. Maybe that's why they won 591 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: forty two because Herbert you put him in a big 592 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: spot and he just is one of those guys that 593 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: gets better. Uh this, this it might be could be 594 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: the best quarterback matchup of the year. I can't wait. 595 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: I that's why I draft. But you waited too long. 596 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Now that's the problem. It's also got a potential offensive 597 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year versus Defensive Rookie of the Year 598 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: matchup where they actually are against each other in ray 599 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: Sean Slater versus uh Oda f A o A, who's 600 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: both of them are playing lights out? Slaters turned into 601 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe if you could redraft all the tackles from the 602 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: last two years, people might take Slater above them all. 603 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: That's how good he's looked and o Wa has been incredible. Otherwise, 604 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, like these Neither defense is very good. 605 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: The Ravens defense is below average. This year. Chargers defense 606 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: just kind of gives up yards, so I would expect 607 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: it to be a shooting. Later was on Myles Garrett 608 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: and they kept trying to help him with chip blocks, 609 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: and he said, enough with the chip block, I'll handle 610 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: it myself. And he did fine. What we talked about 611 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: it down to theirs mark the Myles Garrett decorated his 612 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: house for Halloween and has tombstones with quarterbacks names written 613 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: all over them, and he has a Justin Herbert toot 614 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: like you got I mean, first of all, maybe not 615 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: you can update he didn't get a sack. He didn't 616 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: get a sack. Well, maybe that's how he's monitoring whether 617 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: or not the quarterback is in under six ft under 618 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: the earth. I mean, the Browns lost, so you know, 619 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: all right, Greg, you are on the clock. Oh yeah, 620 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: you are on the c and guess what it's snaking 621 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: to you? So you're not gonna get popped by anybody 622 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: behind you? All right, I'll take the the worst game 623 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: possible since I'm just gonna watch Ravens. Anyways, Texans colts 624 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: off the top op. Uh. That is a terrible, terrible pick. 625 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: I think the Texans should be happy they get it 626 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: to see Davis Mills for another week. It's like if 627 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor was ready to come back. And some people 628 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: are been conspiracy theorists being like, are they trying to tank? 629 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: Because you know it's maybe he should be back and 630 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil's now out for a month with the surgery. Um, 631 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: Davis Mills just played the best game any quarterbacks him 632 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: on the bench, right, any rookie quarterbacks played this year. 633 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: I was shocking, but he made some great throws on 634 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: the move. So you want to see him for another week. 635 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: And if you're the Colts. I think you still feel 636 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: like you have a chance here this season. Their offense 637 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: has looked a little better each and every week. I 638 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: think Carson Wentz has looked a little better each and 639 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: every week. You might get t Y Hilton back at 640 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: some point somewhat soon. Uh. You gotta just take care 641 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: of business here. And that's why you know so many 642 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: reasons why that was just a brutal loss on Monday 643 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: night for the Colts. If you find a way to 644 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: win that game on Monday, then you got the Texans 645 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: right after that in your building, and then your three 646 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: and three, and that could put you in a first 647 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: place tie after week six in your division. I mean, 648 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: that is that's what we're talking about in terms of 649 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: what's going on the a f C. South Um. But 650 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: to that point, even with that loss, if you get 651 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: this win you get and you get to two and four, 652 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: you're hanging around in your division. I guess market is 653 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: a kind of a measuring stick game. I talked about it. 654 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: How you know some losses are so bad it can 655 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: ruin your season. Don't get beat here. Don't let Davis 656 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: Mills light you up the way Davis Mills lit up 657 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots in Week five. I mean, it's a huge 658 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: If there's any team on the how do you respond, Uh, 659 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, bus, it's the Cults, because that's the kind 660 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: of thing where you could end a season for a 661 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: team that's not mentally tough. I think they are. Uh. 662 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: If Davis Mills does does what he did last week 663 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: or anything close, he becomes a thing. I mean, I 664 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: thought he made incredible throws on fourth down late in 665 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: the game. I love what the offensive coordinator did early 666 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: on their first drive was an eighteen place seventy nine 667 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: your touchdown drive that took ten minutes off the clock 668 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: against Bill Belichick, the best showing against the Patriots defense. 669 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: So also, I mean, coming off maybe the worst game 670 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: of quarterback's played by Davids Mills against Buffalo the week 671 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: So let's see what he does. I mean. But if 672 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: you're the Texans, Tyrod Taylor back in there, it's a 673 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: lost season. Find out what you have and keep an 674 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: eye on Jonathan Taylor, who's been heating up the last 675 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: two weeks. Remember, by the end of last season, he 676 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: was all but unstoppable, and that could be a major right. 677 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Their defense played their best three quarters of the year 678 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: by far in Baltimore and their offensive line played their 679 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: best game of the year, so I thought they had 680 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: some good things in that game. All right, I need 681 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: a late game. Well, I needed a game that I'm 682 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: not going to really watch because I'm gonna watch, but 683 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: you will watch it because to be professional. Well, I 684 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: will later in the week on game. But what about 685 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: Sunday night? That's your don't you understand what we're doing here. 686 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: We watched two games and then a third, and then 687 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: we talked about it Sunday night. Right, but with the 688 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: bye weeks, I'll be fine, It'll work out. No, but 689 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: you have to be able to know. Okay, park underst 690 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: it would be me that needed a rules refresher. But 691 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: it's you just have to have eyes on that game. 692 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: And that's a rough game to have eyes on, even 693 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: if your primary game, you're paying attention to his charges 694 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: right as you can't not watch the game you just 695 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: drafted third. Overall, it's just called Texans, Go ahead, Raiders, Broncos. 696 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: I'll take late. Uh, this is a big game. Each 697 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: of these teams two game losing streak, both feeling like 698 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: their season could really start going next level. Like in 699 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: the hole, if they lose this game. I'm not really 700 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: of the mind that the Raiders are lost because they 701 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: just got rid of like some demigod who was probably 702 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: not that fun to play for in the first place. 703 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: For the next thirteen weeks. I just think there's been 704 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: this weird idea that like, oh, the Raiders are done 705 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: now because John Gruden's gone. And I think there's an 706 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: equally good chance that John Gruden being out of the 707 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: buildings are positive that, you know. I think you could 708 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: almost feel that with some of Mayok's uh quotes, this 709 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: is a guy that wasn't a lot of fun I 710 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: don't think to play for. I don't think they're gonna 711 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: necessarily be better and that their flaws go away. But 712 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: I certainly don't think that losing John Gruden means the 713 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: team is in way worse shape. I know now because 714 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: of everything that happened. Now, John Gruden wasn't worth the 715 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: damn but he was a very important person in that building, 716 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: and he was the offensive coordinator essentially, and he was 717 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: the guy that worked with Derek Carr, that coached him 718 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: up got him to a much better place. With him 719 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: just disappearing, I don't think you could say that that 720 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and now you have the special it doesn't matter. 721 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: But why saying I mean, I'm saying I don't think 722 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: it makes them worse necessary or did we hear you're 723 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: saying like people didn't like playing for John Bruden. I 724 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: don't remember hearing a lot of that before this happened. 725 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he has been the most important person 726 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: in them being a below average franchise for four years, 727 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: So getting rid of him in any other scenario, you 728 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, oh, they're screwed. Now they have professional 729 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, people love Possaccia. You know, big time Pisaccia 730 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: fan Greg Olsen's you know called play for Derek carb Heads. 731 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Not like he hasn't been a coordinator in the league. 732 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's just a big rotation, like on 733 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: the fly. I guess that's kind of where I'm coming from. 734 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: By the way Mike Mayock spoke with the media about 735 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: everything that's gone on, here was here was this kind 736 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: of over arching thoughts will start here with what's going 737 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: on around the Raiders. The way I grew up, the 738 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: Raiders always stood for diversity. They had the first Latino quarterback, 739 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: Tom Flores. He's also became the second Latino head coach. 740 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: The first African American head coach was Art Shell. The 741 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: first female CEO was Amy Trusk. Obviously, all of that 742 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: was under Al Davis's watch. This week, his son Mark Davis, 743 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: I think had tough time. He had a tough week, 744 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: and then he was asked about, you know, with the 745 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: comments that leaked, the Grooten emails and how that reflects 746 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: on a primarily black locker room. And oh, by the way, 747 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: Carl Nassa, the first ever openly gay player, was also 748 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: on the Raiders and who requested and received of a 749 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: personal day on Wednesday away from the team. May I 750 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: hit that as well. I've talked to several of the 751 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: black players. Okay, I think we've reached out to a 752 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: bunch of players, black and white. Everybody's got emotions and feelings. 753 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: I've talked to some of the people in my department 754 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: that are black and my my my director of pro scouting, 755 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: and I just said, DJ, I can't put myself in 756 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: your shoes. Help me. So we've spent a pretty good 757 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: amount of time trying to trying to help these guys 758 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: and talk with these guys and not talk out at them, 759 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: but with them. And the other thing I would say 760 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: is just for Carl, let's be honest, he's a community 761 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: of one that's openly gay. Okay, Um, we do have 762 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: a large community of African American players and and I'm 763 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: trying to do We're trying to do everything we can 764 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: for that community as well. Obviously it started there. Okay, 765 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: nobody's forgetting that. We're talking and I'm trying to do 766 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: to work with everyone, and we're going to continue to 767 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: do that. Well. I think that shows that your focus, 768 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: no matter how much you wanted to be just on 769 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: the Broncos, is in all sorts of other places. Because Greg, 770 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: I kind of even hear what you're saying that maybe 771 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: the Grooten experience leaving the building from a football angle 772 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: from a refresher angle might for some people be up 773 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: maybe mayok, like there was a power vacuum there, but 774 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: the idea that so many people trusted Gruden and then 775 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: you find out all this stuff like these are young people. 776 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people affected. And 777 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: also what it doesn't change though, is that the Raiders 778 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: team that I've watched over the last couple of weeks 779 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 1: cannot run the ball. They cannot stop the run. Their 780 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: offensive line has been a disaster. They had eight holding 781 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: penalties last week, one which took away a touchdown that 782 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: turned into a field goal. That's a big problem for 783 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Derek carr Um. I don't buy into the stuff that 784 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: Derek Carr isn't tough this or that anyone playing NFL 785 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: quarterback as long as he has I don't those questions, 786 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of players feel the same way. 787 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: Don't care about that issue. But he is under duress, 788 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: and he's certainly, like a lot of other quarterbacks, not 789 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: the same quarterback when that's happening. And I look at teams, 790 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: no matter who the coaches, when you cannot run, cannot 791 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: stop to run. The offensive line has major issues with 792 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: players moving to positions they never played. You've got issues 793 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: against the Broncos defense. By the way, the Broncos, how 794 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: about be a little more creative on offense. Like I 795 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: understand that you know you you don't have Justin Herbert 796 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: at quarterback, but you go watch the way they came 797 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: out last week against Pittsburgh. Zero creativity. Three drives that 798 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: each went for about twenty yards total. Come on, pat 799 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: Shermer Mmm, Pat Shermer heat. I mean it is one 800 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: of those situations where like everything everyone said the whole 801 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: offseason ended up being right, which is the offensive line 802 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: moves that they made. It's killed them. It's just killing 803 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: their season. The Raiders like can't function on offense because 804 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: of their offensive line. But this is a good matchup 805 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: for it that Broncos have one of the worst pass 806 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: rushers in the entire NFL. I think there second or 807 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: thirds of last and past rush win rates basically von 808 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: Miller and then County on the secondary. Where do you stand, 809 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: just to mark about his team in the Browns, where 810 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: you standing on the Broncos Right now? Through five weeks, 811 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: Teddy's come down to earth a little bit the defense 812 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: I thought he played. Maybe it's been one of his 813 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: best games last week. It's not a good situation when 814 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: I think Teddy is beating any expectation that I had 815 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: for him. Uh, and the team is not good, Like 816 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: the strength that they were supposed to have are not strength. 817 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: Right now you have Hammler, Judy and a KOI boon 818 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: him out so that you had this like six pack 819 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: of guys that we're gonna be catching passes, three of 820 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: them are gone. You thought the pass rush with Chub 821 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: and Miller it would be good. Chubb isn't there the 822 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: pass which is bad. And then the secondaries like kind 823 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: of sprung some leeks too. So these strengths that I 824 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: was expecting haven't really been strength. Teddy's exceeded well. I 825 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: like that. I I know, I know we were not 826 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: huge fans of Teddy. He played great last week in 827 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: that game against Pittsburgh, like in just in terms of 828 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: offensive and he ended the game but an interception and 829 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: the end zone. How I thought he played really well 830 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: in that game. If you go throw to throw, I 831 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 1: thought it was probably his best start of the year, 832 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: including the first three weeks. He is number one in 833 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: the league uh in e p A plus completion percentage 834 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: over expected. I don't think he's the best quarterback in 835 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 1: the league, but it kind of shows how they've moved 836 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: the ball efficiently. He hasn't made any mistakes, but you 837 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: need him to just if if him being average is 838 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: not enough, they're not going to be. Yeah, and you 839 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: gotta win this game. You gotta find a way to 840 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: win this game. If you don't beat them, you're on 841 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: a three game losing streak, and then you go to 842 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland and I guess it kind of gets back to 843 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: the Teddy experience, like he's not going to take your 844 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: team and lift them up when there are a lot 845 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: of issues around it. He's he's a good guy when 846 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: things are set up well around him. He's kind of 847 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: like a Sam Donald type. Um. But yeah, we'll see 848 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: what happens with the Broncos this week. I kinda they're 849 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: gonna get some kind of like that spice rack thing, 850 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: the you know, pick the team that has a lot 851 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: of drama rallying around chaos. All right, I'm up. I 852 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: will select the final late game on the board. Cowboys 853 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: at Patriots. Cowboys have been awesome, just awesome, and uh, 854 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: you know, I you look at them and they just 855 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: had a three, three game homestand where they just kind 856 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: of went off and flex their muscles and they out 857 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: They outscored the Eagles, Panthers, and Giants to six. Um. 858 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 1: They passed the ball well, they run the ball well. Uh, 859 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: they are much better on defense, and they have something 860 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: really interesting cooking here and that they have a legitimate 861 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: m v peak candidate and doc they have a legitimate 862 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: rookie Defensive of the Year candidate and MIKEA. Peters and 863 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: they have a legitimate defensive player of the your candidate 864 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: and Trayvon Digs. That's the recipe for a lot of WS. 865 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 1: I mean, they're a jugger not. I don't know why 866 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: everyone like is clinging on so hard to their previous 867 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys opinions that there anything, but you know, the best 868 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: team in the NFC are one of the best teams 869 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's just that's just who they are. 870 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: It's very it seems very obvious. Maybe things could change, 871 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: but the offense isn't gonna change. The defense is not 872 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: just like getting by They're like a top ten type 873 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: of defense right now. I was stunned that this game 874 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: started as almost an even point spread before betters you know, 875 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: went heavy on the Cowboys and moved it to four. 876 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: How is it even possible? I know the Patriots are 877 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: a legacy brand, but typically the line's smarter than that 878 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: even at the start correct Well, who knows, Like, like, 879 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: what's the case? Like the Vegas made so much money 880 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: on almost the entire country picking the Bucks, you know 881 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: as heavy favorites. A couple of weeks ago, and the 882 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: Bucks didn't cover that game. Maybe it's a little bit 883 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: of a residual effect that like the Patriots at home 884 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: will cook some stuff up. But I don't get it, 885 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: because sure the Patriots could come up with one of 886 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: their great game plans to slow it down and Mac 887 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: Jones like it's possible, But these aren't the Patriots. They're 888 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: negative three and turnover margin. That's like the most Unpatriots 889 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: thing possible. Jonna Smith is a disaster. And their defensive rankings, 890 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: to me, are entirely a reflection of the teams they've played. 891 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they've been a particularly good defense. Yeah, 892 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: they're twenties six and scoring two. And I could see 893 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you know, on a weekly basis putting up 894 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: thirty five, and this is kind of the Cowboys team 895 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: that we did believe in a few years ago. P 896 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: F has them, you know, as of yesterday, their number 897 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: one offensive line. Uh, they're dominant on the ground. Pollard 898 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: it leads to league in yards per carry, and I 899 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: think he has about fifties something, you know, carries compared 900 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: to about eighties something for Zeke. So it's both of them. 901 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: They're very effective, and I mean They've got arguably the 902 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: best cast of whiteouts in the in the NFC, and 903 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 1: it's working. I mean, it's it's basically what was happening 904 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: on offensive year ago before Dak went down. But on 905 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: the flip side, Dan quick and has the defense simplified 906 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: and organized, so it's a more complete team. And the 907 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: Patriots in theory are built to stop the run, but 908 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: they really haven't been. They haven't looked good. Lawrence Guy 909 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: and Dante Hite are both have looked a lot older 910 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 1: this year, and those are two guys that normally stopped 911 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: the run. Well. They both are coming off their best 912 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: games of the season against Houston, so maybe that's a 913 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: little bit to feel better about if you're a Patriots fan. 914 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: But they just they just seem like they wouldn't have 915 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: enough answers to slow Dallas that I know. It doesn't 916 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: have a lot of juice, and I think that's why 917 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: it's been fairly muted in general. With Mac Jones, but 918 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: the fact that four four out of their five games 919 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: he's over completion percentage, and then you look at like 920 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: you look at some of the other rookie quarterbacks and 921 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: how much they're struggling. I think if you're a Pats fan, 922 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: you're feeling really good about Jones. Maybe not right now. 923 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: Maybe right now it's you know, he's a guy that 924 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: he makes a lot of turnover where he plays every week, 925 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: and and he's not somebody that's gonna get you jump 926 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: out of your seat like a Trey Lance or whatever. 927 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: But I feel like he's developed thing. And I'm Patriots 928 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: fans aren't more into Mac Jones because I think he's 929 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,479 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think he's played really well. Yeah, 930 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean and that was I know it's the Houston Texans, 931 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: but you know that is the type of heady type, 932 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: drive down the field stuff that first of all Bill 933 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: Belichick dreams about with a smile on his face and 934 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: be like first year quarterback. He I think he seems 935 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: like he's ready to progress and this time next year 936 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: is going to be leading this offense with confidence, and 937 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: I'd be feeling good about it if I'm a Pats fan. 938 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's been under the radar. Why 939 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: is that. I think it's the comparison game too, because 940 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: it go remember his pro day when we did our 941 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: podcast that day where he did at the same time 942 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: as Justin Fields and fields makes you get up out 943 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: of your seat with some of the stuff he does. 944 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 1: And Matt Jones just fits I think well into a system. 945 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: And I mean his arm strength. I might have a 946 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: few questions about that, but he I think he manages 947 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: New England really well. But it's like you then are 948 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: watching Patrick Mahomes. The offense is bad, like he has 949 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: felt like the least of their problems to me relatively, 950 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, a justin for having a rookie quarterback. I 951 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: mean John new Smith is a disaster. You know, why 952 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: do you say he's a disaster just because of his 953 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean lack of offensive output or is there more 954 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: to it? He's block. They're all they're having him do 955 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: now is block and he's not even doing that. Uh 956 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: he hasn't you know, he said so many drops. He's 957 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: not making explosive plays. He just doesn't seem confident at all. 958 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: Nelson Agilar, I wouldn't say as a disaster, but he's 959 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: fairly close. I mean, I'd rather have Jacoby Myers or 960 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: Kendrick Borne on the team the rest of the year 961 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: than Nelson Aglar, who you were expecting to come in 962 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: and make a big impact. The offensive line has been disappointing, 963 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: and now they're really injured. They might be missing three 964 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: of their starters again this week. It's you know, it's 965 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of everything around Mac and I think it's it's 966 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: tougher to sign like a huge free agent class when 967 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: you don't know who your quarterback is. You didn't know 968 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: it was going to be a rookie quarterback rounding into 969 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: shape because on the flip side, like Matt Judean seems 970 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: like Bill bel stream player. Judan has been great, but 971 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: they spent a ton of money on their offense to 972 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: make it better and it's just not working right now. 973 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: It could you know, last week there were some positive signs. 974 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: Who knows, like they here's what they gotta do is 975 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: win one of these games, because they have about every 976 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: other week they play one of the best teams in 977 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: the league. They had the Box a couple of weeks ago. 978 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: They they have another couple of tough ones, Like they 979 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: gotta win one of these to get in the mix. 980 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: But else they're gonna keep being two and four and 981 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: three and five and just be a forget about news. 982 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna win this game, and I'm so certain 983 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: of it. America's team, and you know what, what are 984 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: we doing? Desert three and a half points? Okay, I'm 985 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: running to lock this game up because what what about 986 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys tells you they're gonna trip up on the 987 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: Patriots who just are relentlessly middling at this stage. All right, 988 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: we'll be right back after this. All right, here we go, 989 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: We're back, Mark, you're up, baby, two in a row. Well, 990 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: I've just done a greg thing. Enough, no idea what 991 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: what game to pick here? But actually, you know what 992 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: I like this one o'clock vikings at Panthers offering early 993 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: in the day. Two teams that interests me, especially Carolina. 994 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: And i'd ask you this with the with the Panthers, 995 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: are you concerned more about Sam Donald after what we 996 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: saw last week where I mean he made some mistakes. 997 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: You don't have Christian McAffrey. It sounds like McAffrey could 998 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: be back time position didn't he didn't practice on Thursday. 999 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: So now it's starting to be like, oh, they might 1000 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: be I think I think sometimes it's like it just 1001 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: makes sense that when Christian McCaffrey exited the picture that 1002 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: and the competition jumped up that Donald could run into 1003 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: some issues. And that's exactly what's happened against Dallas in Philadelphia. UM, 1004 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: I think Donald is good when things are cooking and 1005 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: you have a nice set up around here and the 1006 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: opponent is right. But I think we're seeing some of 1007 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: these traits, uh from his time in New York, where 1008 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: you can get into some bad habits sometimes and makes 1009 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: some mistake throws and and you've seen that last two weeks. 1010 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going away. I think this is 1011 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: the Sam Donald experience. I'm curious to watch it go 1012 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. But he is top 1013 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: five in the league in fumbles, sacks taken, and interceptions. 1014 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: So normally if like a quarterback with four actually in 1015 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 1: each uh, if if a quarterback is in the top 1016 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: four of each of those, you would think he was 1017 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. Now, he's 1018 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: made a lot of really good plays, even last week 1019 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: in that in that game, like he's made good throws 1020 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: and when he has to go to the second and 1021 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: third read, things get wonky. But there's just way too 1022 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: many negative plays and that I like the Vikings and 1023 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,479 Speaker 1: Danio Hunter and Everson Griffin to kind of get after 1024 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: him because that Panthers a line has gotten a little 1025 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: bit worse each week too. I don't know that. The 1026 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: thing is I like seeing Dante Jackson last week for 1027 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: the Panthers defense, Hassan Reddick, like they just seem to 1028 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: have guys that show up week after week. Um. I 1029 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 1: don't know if Shack Thompson will be back this time around, 1030 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: but they didn't have him a week ago. But the Vikings, I, 1031 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: you know, you look at the Lions game, in the 1032 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: Browns game before that. Kirk Cousins is playing fine, but 1033 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: they have not. They have they have lost, you know, 1034 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: their way on offense to some degree. They still can 1035 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,919 Speaker 1: be explosive plays. You still see Kirk Cousins making Keith 1036 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 1: throws to feeling down the stretch last week. That helped 1037 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: set up that win. But that was the Lions. I 1038 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: banged up wanting Lions defense. So I just view the 1039 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: Vikings as a team that could underwhelm under Mike Zimmer 1040 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: week after week, or they might surprise you. The Panthers, 1041 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 1: to me, at least, are consistently coached well week after week, 1042 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: and I think they're daring. They went forward on fourth 1043 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: and one from their own thirty five two weeks ago 1044 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: they'll do anything it takes. I like guys like Tommy 1045 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: Tremble and Hubba Hubbard. This team to me is exciting. 1046 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: I'm interest Hubba Hubba. I think it's Cuba Hubbard. Isn't 1047 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: Chubba Cuba? Cuba? Yeah? Um yeah. The Vikings, you know, 1048 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: you guys know, I like the Vikings, but they're killing me. 1049 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: They're impossible to figure out, and they're so up and down. 1050 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: And you know in week four they score right off 1051 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: the right off the bat against the Browns and then 1052 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: going to a shell for the last fifty five minutes 1053 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: of game time, lose that fourteen seven, and then it 1054 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: gets the lines, what's what are we doing here? How 1055 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: are we not? How are we not in your building? 1056 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: And I know you don't have Dalvin Cook, but Madison 1057 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 1: has been a good reserve for them. How are you 1058 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: not running the Lions out of that building? How do 1059 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: you almost blow that game? It was like they had 1060 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: a first down with the ten point lead with like 1061 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: three minutes right but even before that, it was like 1062 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: it got into that situation. So then you almost blow 1063 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: the game. And then Greg Joseph, of all people, he did, 1064 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: Joseph like bails you out with a kick. But it's 1065 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: like who who can you expect against the Panthers. I 1066 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: think it's a it's a good game because both these 1067 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: teams are a bit unpredictable at this juncture. UM. I 1068 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: really would like to see Christian McCaffrey back. I think 1069 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: it's interesting and notable when we take now that he 1070 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: didn't practice on Thursday. UM, I wonder if that means 1071 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna see Cuba again. Yeah, that's I. I thought 1072 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: this Vikings team was going to be so good running 1073 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: the ball after weeks two and three, and then they've 1074 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 1: been pretty inconsistent, because that's how you beat the snow Patrol. 1075 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: You run right through them. They're like their edge defense. 1076 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: You know, they got steamrolled by Dallas. Everyone gets steamrolled 1077 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 1: by Dallas, but they got steamrolled more than everyone else. 1078 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,320 Speaker 1: And then last week late in that game, the Eagles 1079 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: actually ran the ball when they wanted to on the 1080 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: edge to kind of put them away. So you'd like 1081 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: to see a little Dalvin Cook, a little Madison running 1082 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: through them. Mark all right, I've got a second early game. 1083 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go rams at Giants. Uh. This Giant's team, 1084 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: I just I you know, some of these um I 1085 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: don't know who they annoyed up in the heavens where 1086 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,959 Speaker 1: you cannot get any of their players on the field 1087 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: at the same time. You know, watching se Kwon Barkley 1088 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: getting carded off Daniel Jones um really disturbing. Kind of 1089 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: drunken hobble after he was head injury? Is that how 1090 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: you call that headed? Well, you had the drunken hobble 1091 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: is perfect, and then the head injury not as good. 1092 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: Don't you know? Head injury works for me. I think 1093 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: this is a game where the injury to the head 1094 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: suffered a brain injury. That's another way to go with it. 1095 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: I hear you go ahead, can cost Stafford? I don't know. 1096 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,439 Speaker 1: Like Stafford makes these and he he gets in sync 1097 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 1: with the offense and they have huge, you know quarters 1098 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 1: they had like against the Seahawks last time we saw them, 1099 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: their third quarter they had two hundred and eleven yards 1100 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: for sixteen to the Seahawks. And they can do that. 1101 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: They were also o for five on third downs in 1102 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: the first half. I just they're streaky, and I feel 1103 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: like Stafford is a little bit streaky inside this offense. 1104 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know what Sean McVeigh would say about 1105 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 1: him at this point. I think he's been very good. 1106 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,720 Speaker 1: But has he been is some some metrics will sizz 1107 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: suggest he's sort of just in the middle on his 1108 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: overall place. He's missed a lot of throws. The scheme 1109 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: has opened it. I don't think he's played that well. 1110 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. I mean, I don't have 1111 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: him in the top ten because you have to evaluate 1112 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: the head or behind Teddy Bridgewater. He's definitely um Teddy's 1113 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: in the middle. Stafford just has a pretty good degree 1114 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: of difficulty and so many drives and because he misses throws. 1115 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about it because the fact that 1116 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: they have these open throws that's what matters. And going 1117 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 1: against this Giants defense, which hasn't really been what we expected. 1118 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: You know, they lose Dalvin Tomlinson and suddenly they can't 1119 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: stop the run. Uh, they really don't get after the 1120 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: quarterback very well. Like, there's not a lot of reason 1121 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: to think the Giants defense is going to slow them 1122 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: down for long. And on the other side, they're just 1123 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: like it's another week of like, who's gonna play for 1124 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 1: the Giants? Kenny Galladay probably not, se Quon Barkley probably not. 1125 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones probably will, and that's the key one. He 1126 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: gives them a chance because he will have the most 1127 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: important play around the Giants, which is Candarius Tony. Do 1128 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: you love you Tony? I mean it was it took 1129 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: one game to realize, like, this guy is gonna make 1130 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: every draft Nick who killed Gettleman for this pick and 1131 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: then killed him even more as he was having a 1132 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: bad offseason, like, oh, you guys were all so wrong 1133 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 1: because it's just like it's so obvious. And then literally 1134 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: the next game he goes for a eighty nine. I mean, 1135 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: what's that to lie? It reminds me a lot of 1136 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: Odo Beckham coming in after being out at the beginning 1137 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: of the season, just being like, oh, this guy is 1138 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: going to be a star. Who Becky? He's this guy 1139 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: on the Browns. He's like, I think he's behind Brushard 1140 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: Higgins and totally yeah, what happened there? Mark? How do 1141 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: how do they score forty two points and he gets 1142 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: two catches for twenty yards? What is going on? Tony 1143 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: fits this? It was good to see. It feels like 1144 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 1: it happened a million years ago because we were in 1145 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: London on top of it, but it was gonna see 1146 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 1: Robert Woods back in that offense. Fourteen targets, twelve catches, 1147 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty UM against the Seahawks, and I 1148 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: just think, yeah, Stafford, you again, you can look at 1149 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: the numbers and he has missed some throws, but they 1150 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: they're often so much better this year with him involved 1151 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: instead of golf. And when you have Cooper Cup. I 1152 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: know Sean Jackson has been quiet, but he's healthy, Tyler Higbee, 1153 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: and then you add Robert Woods to it with a 1154 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 1: running game, that's fine. Uh, the Rams are just gonna 1155 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: keep winning. This is a twelve win team to me, 1156 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 1: maybe favorites or something on the road here, Darryl Henderson, 1157 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: I think matters for this team when he plays. I 1158 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: just think they're better and and Jackson like is in 1159 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 1: the perfect spot. He makes one big play a week 1160 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: that's like exactly what you ran out of gas against 1161 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. But I do think it helps that Stafford 1162 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: gets an extra what three or four days with the 1163 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: finger that he messed up as well. Such a frustrating 1164 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: season for Giants and their fans. By the way, you 1165 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: blow that Thursday night game against Washington, You somehow find 1166 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: a way to lose to Atlanta on Eli Day, and 1167 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: then you have this really emotional big win at the Superdome, 1168 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: and then you're fighting the Cowboys hard in the first 1169 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: first half and then se Kwan steps on a foot 1170 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: and blows up his ankle, Jones gets head injuried, and uh, 1171 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, call the leaves the game and it's just like, 1172 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: oh man, we can't get it going. So it's been 1173 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: a tough year, um for New York football. All right, 1174 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: up next the old Zuser. Alright, one more pick for me, 1175 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: one more for Greg and the drafts done. My pick 1176 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: will be this is kind of in an indictment on 1177 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: where they are right now. The Chiefs available late in 1178 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: this draft heading to Washington. Indictment of Washington too, because 1179 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: they were supposed to be kind of good and fun 1180 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: and buzzy this year. So Chiefs at Washington a pair 1181 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: of two and three teams. This was the first time Sunday, 1182 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: Greg where I was watching, uh the Chiefs, and I'm like, 1183 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm a little worried. I'm a little bit worried about 1184 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: what's going on with the Kansas City Chiefs that we 1185 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: know they have problems on defense and you assume a 1186 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: team of their pedigree, they'll get coached up and they'll 1187 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: make adjustments and maybe get to where they need to 1188 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: be about average. But the offense is the inability to 1189 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: execute and the failures um and the backbreaking turnovers. You 1190 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: could look at it and say, you know, it's a 1191 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: little flukey, and they're they're happening in bunches, but the 1192 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 1: history tells us isn't something to continue. But at the 1193 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: same time, they're happening, and we're now deep into October 1194 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: and you just lost your starting running back and it 1195 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: just feels like against the Chiefs, right it is. I 1196 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: mean the part where you're saying you're you're they're hopeful 1197 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: you get back to average. On defense, I think that's 1198 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 1: the thing I'm most concerned about, because I don't know 1199 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: if that's coming. I don't know if I see the 1200 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: pass rush, if I see the personnel. The turnovers were flukey, 1201 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: and that Bill's game, you know, the Mahomes turnovers were 1202 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: totally flukey, and they did help change that game. But 1203 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: the game plan to stop the Chiefs is consistent, and 1204 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: I am a little surprised that they don't seem to 1205 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: have a great counter for it, and the game plan 1206 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: is like make them work down the field very slowly, 1207 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: back your safety is up, and hopefully something crazy will 1208 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: happen along the way. And so it's sort of built 1209 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: into the game plan dan these flukey turnovers, like make 1210 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: them go on ten fifteen play drives and hope you 1211 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: get Ahold the penalty or a weird play, and it 1212 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 1: keeps working. I throughout the stat that Mahomes has fewer 1213 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty plus yard plays this year than Zack Wilson, 1214 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Taylor Heinarchy, Mac Jones, some other Hammond egger that I 1215 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: kind of insulted just by putting on the way. Second, 1216 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's not a hamm and Egger. He's just learning 1217 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: the sport, my man here. So here's the question. So, 1218 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 1: if your defense is designed to stop the Chiefs from 1219 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the big play that was, logic would dictate that there 1220 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: should be a ton of space in the middle of 1221 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 1: the field for Patrick Mahomes to pick you apart. Is 1222 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: this a situation where if you can somehow uh negate 1223 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, and if you can, you can't throw to 1224 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey every time. Do they not have enough weapons 1225 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: around Patrick Mahomes, and that's why they're able to be 1226 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: taking advantage of in this way, I think that you 1227 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: could look beyond so nobody's getting open. You can look 1228 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: beyond Kelsey and Hill and say that even going into 1229 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: the year, there were questions about the depth in terms 1230 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: of weapons. But I am like, not watching football for years, 1231 01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna overworry about the at the watching football. Well, 1232 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: so should we panic as if we don't think so? 1233 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Because a week ago and I led the charge, I 1234 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: was like, hey, the Chiefs man seven drive, six touchdowns, 1235 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: f you for even thinking that they're not gonna be okay. 1236 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: But then another game like that happens and it's just 1237 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: like this, like this aura of invincibility is starting to 1238 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: fade a little bit, and I'm just wonder if like 1239 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 1: there's too much pressure on the offense. I think a 1240 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: lot of it is on you know us who a 1241 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, we're thinking, well, let's just ticket 1242 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 1: like we did Aaron Rodgers coming off the two thousand 1243 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: and ten season, Patrick Mahomes for five or six Super 1244 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Bowl trophies, which is just impossible to do that and 1245 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 1: do it alone. Necessarily, there's like one person that's done that, 1246 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and the offense is not as healthy. And like look 1247 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 1: at like last year in the Super Bowl, losing your 1248 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: offensive line, your tackles completely neutralized them. They have other 1249 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: issues to deal with. I think the bigger problem is 1250 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: that you're better. Teams can take advantage of their totally 1251 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: wanting defense. And I mean both Washington and Kansas. They're 1252 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: giving up the most and second most points in the league. 1253 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: So you think that maybe even Taylor Heineke could have 1254 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: a big game in this one, but um, I don't know. 1255 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: If I trust their offense to you, you would. And 1256 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a battle of two and three teams. And 1257 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: people are are down on are down on the Chiefs 1258 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: right now, but I'm not. Oh oh. And people might say, okay, well, 1259 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Washington football team, you've had a great week being back 1260 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: in the news. Um uh, you're gonna play strong. It's shot. 1261 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 1: They're retiring Sean Taylor's name, they just and then jersey number. Yeah, 1262 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: that's overdue. That's nice and he deserves every honor. Um 1263 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,919 Speaker 1: it it is weird that you find out four games 1264 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: four days before the game. You figure that they would 1265 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: be inspired. But now I'm still going to take the 1266 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: chief to build be this terrible defense unlock that's barely 1267 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: under the bare. No, it's not gutsy whats I do 1268 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: want to say one quick thing about Washington. Sorry, I'm 1269 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 1: just honking too much. Yes, you talking about if they 1270 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: were the Cowboys, like people would just be killing Jack 1271 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 1: del Rio, And how embarrassing this defense is. They're the 1272 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 1: worst coach defense in the league. Every week there are 1273 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: two plays where guys are yelling at each other and like, 1274 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: I thought you had him, you had him, and guys 1275 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: are just streaking wide open, Like that's coach. To your point, 1276 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: William Jackson, who they signed for forty million plus said 1277 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 1: after they gave up that terrible hail Hail Mary play 1278 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: a week ago where it like the Ritz the players 1279 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: were just looking like, hey, what happened here? He said, 1280 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: we weren't expecting them to go hail Mary there. A 1281 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: regular football team will try to get a couple of yards. 1282 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: You didn't call it a little early, which is a 1283 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: play I like, I do like that, you know, call 1284 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: it with twenty seconds I don't know, ready for them 1285 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 1: to go over there. And another team doesn't do that, 1286 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: and there's Deante harris Is touchdown earlier, like the safeties, 1287 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: it's Landon Collins is often involved. I don't know if 1288 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 1: it's his fault, but he's often involved where it's like 1289 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: we don't know who's got who. And Jack del Rio meanwhile, 1290 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: is just like skating through, you know, killing killing John 1291 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Gruden this week, which you know he should but I 1292 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know. Actually, just you know, lay low and work 1293 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: on your team because you're embarrassing your team defense this year. Here, 1294 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: said Ron Rivera. I'm very frustrated because we have too 1295 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: many good football players to not be better than what 1296 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: we are right now. That's true. They have been one 1297 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: of the more disappointing teams in the league. Tyler Heneke 1298 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 1: or Taylor Heneck, he's the only one that's keeping them 1299 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: at all fun to watch. And your boy Terry McLaurin, 1300 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: all right, their crowd stinks too. There would be a 1301 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: lot of Chiefs fans there. I know, you know, every 1302 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 1: every Washington game, I know what I'm just saying, Like 1303 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: last week, you would have thought it was a Saints 1304 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: home game, which I've never seen. It's like, wow, it 1305 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 1: felt like a Saints home game in Washington. I'm sure 1306 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: there are many hyper passionate Washington football team fans. Maybe 1307 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 1: it's the acoustics of the building. Maybe it's too big 1308 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: a building, you know, that's I think it's the biggest stadium. Uh. 1309 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 1: Your savage takedown in the entire fan base seems untoured. 1310 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't blame them. It's been a tough 1311 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 1: couple of decades. All right, here we go, Greg, close 1312 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 1: out the draft. Okay, how do we leave the all 1313 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: the time of the world fighting Bengals came up a 1314 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: gotcha for number two. I know this. It's ruined. My 1315 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: whole show ruined. Sunday. I don't want to be here anymore. 1316 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: Do we have that? Bengals? Lions? You know, I love? 1317 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: This is another very lockable game. I wonder if Mark's 1318 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: about to do so, because, yeah, the windless Lions are 1319 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 1: only three and a half point underdogs, which is surprising 1320 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: considering no one on their team is healthy. You know 1321 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: your team has problems when you lose Quentin c Sis 1322 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 1: for the season, and I'm just like, I don't think 1323 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,959 Speaker 1: they can recover. I'm just like, Okay, at some point, 1324 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 1: you lost too many players. You're now like going into 1325 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, deep deep receivers and all sorts of positions 1326 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: in the secondary. I want to see the Bengals just 1327 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 1: like go in and put a whooping on them like this. 1328 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 1: That would be the new Bengals team because they should. 1329 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah they I mean the defense has lost a number 1330 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: of people in Detroit. They give up ten yards per 1331 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 1: past attempt, which is the most in the league. That's 1332 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: great for Joe Burrow and I just this Bengals team 1333 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: is so resilient. There's something that's so different about them, 1334 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: obviously than in previous years. And I mean, I think 1335 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 1: it's an interesting matchup. I wouldn't never lock this though, 1336 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 1: because I have no idea what's going to happen in 1337 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 1: this thing. Like both teams like games to come down 1338 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 1: to the very end. Gregg, that feels like a lock. Uh. 1339 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: I feel like the lines have gotten a lot of credit, 1340 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: and duly so for like trying at the end of 1341 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 1: the games and coming back. But when you watch all 1342 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: sixty minute, they don't look like a good team. They 1343 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: look like they should be owing five. That's all their 1344 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: talent deficient team that's lost many of their best players 1345 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 1: to injury, and now there's just like I guess Jared 1346 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: Goff is gonna wheel them to some whims all so 1347 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 1: far has not happened. How about how about this week 1348 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: for Jamaar Chase over Pine Sua Twitter, because I think 1349 01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: we reached the point last week where it's just like, oh, yeah, 1350 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals are right not I don't need if it 1351 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Sewell And he might have 1352 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: a great career too, and you can debate about low 1353 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: tackles versus receivers, but it's like Jamar Chase is gonna 1354 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 1: be great. He changes their entire offense. Would pay Sewell 1355 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: even if he's playing well, changed their offense like that? 1356 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'd rather all in fairness. 1357 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: In fairness, Panas Swell is the guy they see is 1358 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: a long term left tackle or you know, crushing right tackle, 1359 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: but left tackle. If he is at the skill level 1360 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: of I guess Jamaar Chase at that position. Yes, you 1361 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: can make the conversation, but but that's actually not what 1362 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 1: the draft pedigrees were. I guess to that level Jamar Chase, 1363 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: we had seen it in college that he was an 1364 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 1: absolute terror that could not be covered. UM. And I 1365 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: think it just more than anything, UM, it just makes 1366 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: the case that we don't need to be doing podcasts 1367 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: in July, well, right, because it's all it's It was 1368 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 1: just open reaction to the fact that maybe he's not 1369 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 1: a pro receiver. He's got drops all over and we 1370 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: were sitting there with with Will Black and in the 1371 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: sky studios at the stadium and he was just like, 1372 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he put it well, which when the balls 1373 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 1: in the air, Chase just like knows it's his ball. 1374 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: And that's like a hard thing to measure, but I 1375 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 1: think it makes sense that he didn't test incredibly well, 1376 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: and you were like, uh, is this gonna translate perfectly? 1377 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: But there's something about him like a t o. Although 1378 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: he would have his drops, it's just like that ball 1379 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: is his, He's gonna go get the ball. I thought, well, 1380 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 1: put it really well, because yeah, he said basically some 1381 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 1: guys and there are very few of them. I think 1382 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned Odell when O'Dell came out, was similar Odell Beckham. 1383 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: He was a wide receiver on the Giants, was a 1384 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,919 Speaker 1: major star. I don't know where he is now, but um, 1385 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: he's just better. He knows he's better than you, and 1386 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who's lining up against him. He's got 1387 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 1: that ball, that's his um and that's that's where this 1388 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: guy's at. And I think, yeah, we all kind of oh, 1389 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,759 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and apology. We kind of Jamar Chase an apology 1390 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: because it was just piling on about some practice drops. 1391 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: And he's arguably the best wide receiver in football this season. 1392 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: WHOA that means that might well put him? Who's better? Who? 1393 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 1: Who can you say is like better than Jamaar Chase 1394 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 1: Cooper to five? Is it a conversation? Now? I don't think. Oh, 1395 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, But if you factor that he's 1396 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: a rookie off, do you think he's probably the rookie 1397 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 1: I guess if you want to get cute and give 1398 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 1: it to Slater Cooper, Cups would probably the Davante Adams 1399 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,679 Speaker 1: are kind of like Davante Adams in terms of production 1400 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 1: is peerless, and Cup has been amazing for the person. 1401 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 1: I know the numbers aren't there, but just watching Jefferson 1402 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 1: and he's in Jamaar Chases this year's version of Jefferson. 1403 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 1: But just in terms of impact, big time plays, game 1404 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 1: changing plays, no one's had as many as Chase. That's 1405 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Um, Alright, let's go through the rest 1406 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: of the games here. Let's start. We have a London game, 1407 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: the second London game International series at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. 1408 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 1: Has it already been I don't know four days. Were 1409 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 1: in that stadium for fourteen hours, Greg Rosenthal. They got 1410 01:09:55,080 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 1: another game. It is Dolphins at Jaguars one in four 1411 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,599 Speaker 1: against oh and five. Tough match up here. I think 1412 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 1: the biggest subplot of this game is my quarturoy jacket 1413 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: that I bought uh in London. I left sitting on 1414 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 1: a chair in the Sky Sports suite and I'm just 1415 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: wondering if it's going to be recovered and somehow get 1416 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: back to me because some of them listening to this podcast, 1417 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 1: perhaps Neil, if you happen to listen, I DM Neil 1418 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,719 Speaker 1: Sunday night and he never replied. I mean they should 1419 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 1: fed exit to you. I'm done with you. I got 1420 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 1: what I needed television content when you came to England. 1421 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: I will not recover y'all jacket. Um No, but I 1422 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: left it on a chair. It was thirty five pounds, 1423 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 1: which is like fifty five bucks or something here, and 1424 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to get more than one day usage out 1425 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 1: of it. I would love to get that jacket back 1426 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 1: I did. I kind of said, let's turn back the 1427 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 1: clock a little bit. I used to love Quartu roy 1428 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 1: jackets in the mid nineties. Uh, forty one year old dad. 1429 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 1: I don't know what's cool and what's not cool anymore. 1430 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,679 Speaker 1: So I just said, I said, screw it, I'm gonna 1431 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 1: wear this jacket. Felt good, felt coman you were you 1432 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 1: were on a jumbo tron with sixty people. Gotta feel 1433 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 1: good about it, jacket, I you're gonna wear in front 1434 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 1: of It's also it's a it's a bit of a 1435 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: power move just to wear it, to buy it for 1436 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 1: thirty pounds or whatever you said it was, where it 1437 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 1: for one day and just leaving a stadium and say, 1438 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,639 Speaker 1: don't care. Maybe just act like you're good. You know. Yeah, 1439 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: but I do need it back because I don't have 1440 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 1: that type of disposable income just to want and done jackets. 1441 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 1: That's not my thing. Anyway. If you find it, let 1442 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 1: me know, all right, next game. Anything on Dolphins Jaguars 1443 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: now TOA is practicing again? Sounds like play. Um, does 1444 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 1: that mean he's starting in London? He's expected to start 1445 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,679 Speaker 1: at this point. They haven't h said anything, but that's 1446 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: kind of the expectation. Yeah. I mean, is there a 1447 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 1: bigger mess of a team that had higher expectations than 1448 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: the Dolphins? I don't think so. We we talked about 1449 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 1: this a little bit on Sunday, I think, and it's 1450 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: just like where they were, the path that they were 1451 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 1: supposedly on to where they are now. It's it's a 1452 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,680 Speaker 1: pretty shaky situation and you don't really know what to 1453 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 1: hold put your hat on right now with the Dolphins. 1454 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,680 Speaker 1: The Jaguars are the perfect team to get right now 1455 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: because obviously it's a winless team and you can kind 1456 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 1: of get yourself right and go into the bye and 1457 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,639 Speaker 1: then hit reset. So I think things set up well 1458 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins here, but I don't know if a 1459 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: bye week is going to magically fix what ails them 1460 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 1: right there in their third year under Floris, and the 1461 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 1: first two years felt ahead of schedule, but now they 1462 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, they're almost you know, they look 1463 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 1: like a team that was as bad as before Floras arrived. 1464 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 1: If he can't cook up Trevor Lawrence, who seems imminently 1465 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,840 Speaker 1: cooka ball right now in terms of confusing him and 1466 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: getting them late and making a couple of big time 1467 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 1: mistakes that lose in the game, then you start having 1468 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 1: to work wonder about like the vision here, they keep 1469 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 1: cycling guys in and out on defense, Like, let's get 1470 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 1: it together, Miami, let's win this game. I thought hard 1471 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 1: about locking it because I really do think they're gonna 1472 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 1: get Henry Hudson and Nat Coombs and all those UK 1473 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Dolphins fans a win. There's a lot of them out there. 1474 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 1: We saw him in the crowd on Sunday. There's a 1475 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 1: lot of UK Dolphins fans. There's a lot of UK 1476 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: uh Jaguars fans, a lot of Bordles jerseys out there. 1477 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 1: But the problem is, like it's like London is gonna 1478 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 1: start taking this game. This personally sending these teams if 1479 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: they do, if they're three and fifteen, these teams that 1480 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 1: in London this year, but this way, if they go 1481 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: to Germany next year, and let's how they do. And 1482 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 1: they announced there was three finals cities and Germany gets 1483 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 1: in a mix, and then you send like chiefs Bucks there. 1484 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,640 Speaker 1: England's gonna start a war. I mean it's gonna be 1485 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Revolutionary War Part two US Great Britain and we're gonna 1486 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: be in a tough sitch, you know what. It might 1487 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 1: be is like they're they're almost too easy to please 1488 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 1: because it's like a super Bowl atmosphere. You've you've been there, 1489 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,559 Speaker 1: and I felt it even more in this one. The 1490 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,680 Speaker 1: crowd was insanely good for a Falcons jet scheme. I 1491 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 1: mean they were so into it. They were so loud 1492 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 1: every like whoever was scoring, They're going absolutely insane uh 1493 01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 1: it really and it was like Jets Falcons, let's let's 1494 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 1: give him, so we have to offer. It's like the 1495 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: boyfriend or girlfriend that's like two nice for their own 1496 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: good and they just getting they're gonna take advantage of 1497 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 1: right we're sending them. Jamal Agnew and Tavon Austin has 1498 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,519 Speaker 1: like legitimate parts of this Jaguars offense. And I also 1499 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 1: want apologize to Neil Reynolds, who actually did get back 1500 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 1: to me while I was sleeping that night. He said 1501 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 1: he just saw it and he's gonna ask the production 1502 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 1: manager on site and if they find it, they're gonna 1503 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 1: mail it to me. So Neil Well buried like minutes ago. 1504 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 1: I buried Neil without even looking at the Gregg. It's 1505 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 1: done that and you've made your Let's let's move on. 1506 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 1: Last game, right, Hey guys, it's Larry. Let's once again 1507 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 1: we'll travel back across the pond where the four Dolphins 1508 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: take on the too Much For no other good reason 1509 01:14:54,080 --> 01:15:00,080 Speaker 1: but spite I'm locking up the Jaguars this week, one 1510 01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 1: of these teams has to win. Why you ask, this 1511 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 1: is what happens when the other brothers don't let me 1512 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,719 Speaker 1: lock up the Browns in a big spot Mark Happy 1513 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:17,640 Speaker 1: birthday if you're feeling better. The recovery is going great, Ricky, 1514 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 1: keep up the good work. We'll see you guys. That's awesome. 1515 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 1: These lesson brothers. They don't care about the competition. They 1516 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,920 Speaker 1: just want to bury each other week after week. And 1517 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I appreciate them for that. 1518 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 1: That this is so it's kind of it's no longer 1519 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 1: about our podcast. It's just this internal battle that we 1520 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 1: actually have a window into it. And it's just that's 1521 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 1: been going on for years. I mean, it feels very 1522 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars esque if things continue to slide the way they 1523 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 1: are there. But um, I love the in fighting. I 1524 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 1: can only imagine what it's like to be live in 1525 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 1: that house with all those brothers. I don't know, no 1526 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: slight to the other Wesleyan Brothers, but I want more Tim. 1527 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,679 Speaker 1: I really like what Tim delivered here. That was Larry, 1528 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 1: wasn't it Larry? Larry? No, Larry wants the Westling Brothers 1529 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,760 Speaker 1: to lose, to get back at them for not letting 1530 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: him lock up the Browns earlier this season. I mean, 1531 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 1: think about that for a second. So did he send 1532 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 1: that like as a rogue transmission? Do they even know 1533 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,640 Speaker 1: that that's the lot that did come? Um? The gatekeeper 1534 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 1: here is Nick Nicks, the one that sends him my 1535 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 1: way bad um? So I think they're all in on it. 1536 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Larry is the youngest, you know, It's it's tough for 1537 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: the youngest. Got to get back at him. All right, 1538 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,400 Speaker 1: Here we go Packers at Bears. This one didn't get drafted. Uh, 1539 01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: And it's because I think it's just because the Bears 1540 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: are I made a horrible mistake and was untiled after 1541 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 1: the whole Chargers Ravens, So you got the factors at 1542 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 1: the Bears. The Bears are three and two, And people 1543 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 1: will get crazy mad at me because I just I'm 1544 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: so stubborn moving him up the power rankings. But I 1545 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 1: just I feel like this is the same as the 1546 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,200 Speaker 1: Bears last year. Only rememberhen the Bears got hot in 1547 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: December and they ended up sneaking in the playoffs, But 1548 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,680 Speaker 1: at no point did you feel like the Bears are 1549 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: actually not that bad. That's kind of what I feel. 1550 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 1: But then then you have to look at it from 1551 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 1: this perspective. Justin Fields is getting his feet wet, and um, 1552 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,639 Speaker 1: it's not a high life factory right now, but it's 1553 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 1: good that he's getting the reps and he's getting opportunities 1554 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 1: in there at least have a game plan in place 1555 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: that's giving him a chance. And the defense the last 1556 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and really for most of the season, 1557 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 1: has been lifting them to victories, which is maybe not 1558 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,120 Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen level, but it's been better and 1559 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 1: opportunistic and that's really why they've won three or five. Yeah, 1560 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: I see them differently than last year's team. I know 1561 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: what you're saying, but I guess what's what's similar is 1562 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,639 Speaker 1: that they handed over play calling to Bill Laser last 1563 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 1: year and it worked. Nag takes it back because Nagy 1564 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 1: is crazy, um, and now they've handed it back to 1565 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 1: Bill Laser. And I thought, at least against the Raiders, 1566 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 1: I saw ad Bears offense that had some identity. I 1567 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 1: mean to have David Montgomery out of the lineup and 1568 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 1: still run the way they did. Um. I like that 1569 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 1: a lot. I am locking up the the Green Bay 1570 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Packers because it's a very lockable game. They are on 1571 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 1: the road, but I trust them to do just enough 1572 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 1: each week. They seem a little out of sink to 1573 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 1: me at times. But Davante Adams locked him up last 1574 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 1: week and got got a fortunate that McPherson hit hit 1575 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 1: it off that I like that I had. I generally 1576 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 1: have a tumultuous relationship with the Packers, but I am 1577 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 1: using them for my own good. Here's the standings in 1578 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 1: the lock competition through week five. Dan and Mark both 1579 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,440 Speaker 1: riding four game winning streaks four and one, the listeners 1580 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,120 Speaker 1: over on the subreddit, and the Westling Brothers both three 1581 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 1: and two. Greg, you've bounced back nicely after the oh 1582 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,799 Speaker 1: and three start. You're now two and three. Ricky somehow 1583 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 1: has a win. I don't really believe it, but she's 1584 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 1: one in three. So that's the standings where we're at all. Right, 1585 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,719 Speaker 1: let's move on. Unless you have something on the Packers 1586 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 1: you wanted to share, Greg from your notebook. I just 1587 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 1: I think they need to get more players involved, like 1588 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: the lack of depth on their offense. They are not 1589 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 1: a great offense right now. Now they've played some pretty 1590 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 1: good defenses and this is another one. But like I'm 1591 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: with you, Mark, I kind of expected to be a 1592 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: close game because remember Alan Lazard. Remember remember Marcus Valda Scantling. 1593 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:20,880 Speaker 1: Isn't he show up? You know? Come off, Tonyan, Tonyan, Yeah, 1594 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,560 Speaker 1: what happened to Bobby Tony? You know remember that the 1595 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,160 Speaker 1: st Brown back in the day. I mean, not no 1596 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 1: one has produced in their receiving corps except for Adams 1597 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: who's having a great year and the running game is great. 1598 01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually think that one to punch is 1599 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 1: right there with anyone outside of Chubb and Hunt. I 1600 01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,640 Speaker 1: would put Zeke and Pollard and then maybe maybe you 1601 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 1: go with the Packers duo right next. So they have things, 1602 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 1: but like their thirteenth and e p A right now, 1603 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,000 Speaker 1: which is kind of an offensive efficiency. They were number 1604 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,600 Speaker 1: one last year. They're just like they're they're struggling a 1605 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 1: little bit on offense. And this bears front. You mentioned it. 1606 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,800 Speaker 1: They get after you. Robert Quinn. It's a year late, 1607 01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 1: but he's been worth worth all the money this year. 1608 01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 1: It's um. It's not really surprising though, is it with 1609 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: the Packers on some level because that season last year 1610 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: was just so as like everything came together and they 1611 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,799 Speaker 1: just got rolling and they just stayed rolling. But given 1612 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,920 Speaker 1: the personnel, it doesn't surprise me that they would fade 1613 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 1: back a little bit this year. And that means other 1614 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,600 Speaker 1: facets of the team need to be better, because I 1615 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,720 Speaker 1: don't know if I see the Packers like turning back 1616 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,599 Speaker 1: into last season, because that felt like a special year 1617 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,000 Speaker 1: for them on offense, maybe that's foreboding. I didn't agree 1618 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,080 Speaker 1: they could get some players back, including back d r 1619 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 1: and Jenkins. It should really well. Other teams like the 1620 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys are rising up to you don't just ticket them 1621 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,120 Speaker 1: for the title game? Right this this game. If Justin 1622 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 1: Fields could ever beat the Packers in his first start, 1623 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,600 Speaker 1: and you know it's going to be defensive lead, but 1624 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,240 Speaker 1: to make enough plays, oh that would be like a 1625 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 1: fun little narrative street like you know, out for my law, 1626 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,640 Speaker 1: kind of like Greg, I hope you're right, continue. I 1627 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 1: mean I'm sick of the Packers just like kind of 1628 01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 1: like skating by each week. Alright, the forty Niners, Falcon, Jets, 1629 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 1: and Saints all on buy. And I think that's it. 1630 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 1: I think we got everything, unless Graver or you've got 1631 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,240 Speaker 1: something that I missed, But I think that's every game. 1632 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: I think he covered it. Good all right, good stuff 1633 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,800 Speaker 1: again Greg tonight with Nate Tice. We like Nate Tys, 1634 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:21,519 Speaker 1: good xs and ose Guy Vegas. Guy got a nice 1635 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 1: got a substack. What's the substance? It's a collection of 1636 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: articles and film studies that he does that I subscribed 1637 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:34,120 Speaker 1: to during my exodus. You pay for the substack? Yeah, 1638 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,240 Speaker 1: I do. Do you to support my friend Nate Tys? 1639 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Do you expense it? Or do you that will be 1640 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 1: happening at some point and see if I can slide 1641 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 1: it pie. You know, I don't even know who my 1642 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 1: boss is anymore, but I'm a subscriber to. I was 1643 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 1: going to give him the plug on tonight, but now 1644 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 1: he's now he's doubling up here. He's got a sub 1645 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,559 Speaker 1: what was it a substat substack? Substack? That's good. Can 1646 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,760 Speaker 1: we get substacks? I mean I've thought about it. Required 1647 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 1: extra work, No, well to put the stuff out there 1648 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 1: that you know, NFL dot com says, I don't want 1649 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 1: you to talk about this, well, I'll talk about it 1650 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 1: on this other platform and maybe charge seventy cents for 1651 01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,719 Speaker 1: readers months like what you didn't see on the Power 1652 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 1: Rankings show. Power Rankings Plus, I don't think that's where 1653 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,920 Speaker 1: I would go with my sub stack is a second, 1654 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:23,000 Speaker 1: there'd be other things to mind, all right, Rosenthal Entice 1655 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,799 Speaker 1: tonight and then we're back on Sunday. And don't forget 1656 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,640 Speaker 1: the Power Ranking excuse me. Power Rankings though, is Tuesday's 1657 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,040 Speaker 1: NFL network at three pm Eastern, but the around the 1658 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:39,200 Speaker 1: NFL broadcast. Oh boy, this thing has taken off ratings 1659 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,280 Speaker 1: Juggernaut every Saturday. Check it out on the network, set 1660 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,760 Speaker 1: the dvr. Okay, good stuff, Thank you Grave Digger for 1661 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:51,680 Speaker 1: filling in. Hopefully Ricky's back on Sunday. Dan had a 1662 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,280 Speaker 1: signing off four Quiet Star the old Boss Grave. There 1663 01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 1: are still Friday. He've the call s