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Speaker 1: course in a safe place because you're The thing is

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Speaker 1: you're engaging essentially in the same hotivity exactly, just in

425
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: a different context. You can't it's so different. You're the

426
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: same context, same home, same home, different days, you know,

427
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: That's all. And it's a beautiful thing. No, Like the

428
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: hole kid is really important because that's the thing. If

429
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: you're caught without your home kit and without the essentials,

430
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult. Happened. It happens. It's difficult

431
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: for you to get back into your day, get your

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00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: day started, you know. Um, So we want to know

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00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: what's in your home? Kid? Listeners, our locals and our

434
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: locals and look X is what's in your home? Kid?

435
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: What's in your home? Kid? Tell us? Tell us, teach

436
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: us something new, share the well. I also keep because

437
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: I also keep Contact Solution because I wear contacts and

438
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: that's been an issue for me. I'm trying to drive

439
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: home and I can't see because my contexts are hella drying. Okay, right,

440
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: it's important. That's a really good tip. If you have

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00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: vision problems and your home, your contact, make sure you

442
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: have a case with you. Yes, have a case with you,

443
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: so if you need to take them out, you can.

444
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: You know. Always, I think that that's always what's kept

445
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: me from spending the night at someone's house is my

446
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: contact because I know that it will mess me up. Right,

447
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: So that takes a lot of like thinking ahead because

448
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: it's happened to me where I haven't taken them out

449
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: and then I pluck. It's bad in the morning, like

450
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: I can't see, my eyes are dry. It's bad. So

451
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: have that with you, keep it somewhere you can reach,

452
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: and you know these listen, let's be honest. Hotivities can

453
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: leave can leave you really hungry. Um it's no guarantee

454
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: that you're going to get fed, which we all should

455
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: get fed. The least that they can do, order it

456
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: seamless whatever, I don't mind. But anyways, um, maybe some

457
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: granola bars. Keep a snack in your car because you

458
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: might be hungry and you need to feed yourself after

459
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: all the work you've just done, you know. So there's that.

460
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: And ho kids, we want to know more about your

461
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: home kids, your home tips, tipsy and hospirations. We have

462
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: a lot of hospirations, a lot of people who have

463
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: come before us, who have paved the way, who have

464
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: you know, put forth the legacy, and we're just walking

465
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: in their light. Um, let's talk about our hospirations. Yeah, definitely. Um,

466
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: we so wow, we have so many, so many. I mean,

467
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: I think someone that we can all identify and like

468
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: she is so amazing and coordinates the slut walk in

469
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: l A is amber Rose. Love me some amber Rose.

470
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: You know she love amber Yeah. She will post a

471
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: thirst trap on Instagram all the time, you know, and

472
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: she and it's tweets and she is also she's a

473
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: really good example of a multidimensional home very much. She's

474
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: a mother, right and and somebody posted the other day, Oh,

475
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I saw this thing on Twitter of the baby Sebastian. Yes,

476
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: someone posted this thing on Twitter about like how women

477
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: women know what they're doing, Like we will dress to

478
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: the occasion. You're not going to wear like a see

479
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: through blouse to meet your partner's parents, right or whatever

480
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: necessarily necessarily right, But maybe you will when you're going

481
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: to take yourselfie and post it on your Instagram. Right.

482
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: But when she's out in about with her with her son,

483
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: like she's wearing what you would deem as like mom

484
00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: clothes or like appropriate quote close, right, So I don't

485
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: know multidimensional she she is very multidimensional. She's a businesswoman

486
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: and entrepreneur. She is she organizes now the slut Walk

487
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: and organizes the conference that will be I believe in

488
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: l A in August or September. So well, let's talk

489
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: about that because Ambrose is behind like a big conference

490
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: and what's the name of the conference? Do we know

491
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: that we're trying to be there? We really wanted what

492
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: we want to be and so this conference is I

493
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: believe it's called Opened Women's Conference and they have five

494
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: pillars which I love, and it's women empowerment, diversity and inclusion,

495
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: digital activism, which I love, financial literacy, literacy, and entrepreneurship,

496
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: which is what we're all about, which is what we're

497
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: all about, all about. That is what we are, That

498
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: is what we are about. So that's amazing. Yeah, and

499
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: then we're going to try and be there. We really

500
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: want to be there. So the little like blurb for

501
00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: the conference is where unedited conversation meets education, compassion and cheer,

502
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: desire to enact change. Get ready to strip yourself of judgments,

503
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: open your minds to embrace candid conversations that will redefine

504
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: raw transparency. Boom and I love strip in that she

505
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: was a dancer. She was a dancer, her in Black China. Yeah,

506
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 1: the whole BFFs. I love it. Yeah, and I you know, um,

507
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Ambrose is really awesome to me, Like, I really appreciate

508
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: her because she is somebody who I find to be

509
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: very bold. I find her to be very honest. Um,

510
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: I find her to be she just sticks to who

511
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: she is. You know, when when our world and our

512
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: society and Hollywood is very quick to criticize and tear

513
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: down especially women, especially women of color, who are in

514
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: the public eye and there's so much slut shaming in

515
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: our society. Were considered a Christian society in a lot

516
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: of ways that like puritan, like the thing is there,

517
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: that puritan you know, like framework is there even though

518
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: none of us like asked to be a part of

519
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: it or signed up for it. It's there and we

520
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: exist in it. And Amber Roses from New England, right,

521
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: and she talks about how she started dancing when she

522
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: was young, when she was a teenager because she was

523
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: trying to help out with her family. Actually, so it's

524
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: just always crazy to me how like you know, sex workers, strippers,

525
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: dancers are looked down on or talked down on or denigrated, um,

526
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: but like their patrons are not, you know, their customers aren't. Yeah, exactly,

527
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: And that goes back to like economy, like theomad who

528
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: has the money has the money, Well, the patrons do

529
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: because they were the customers the men. Yeah, absolutely that

530
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: we're paying to to receive some type of entertainment from

531
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: this age service of some sort. When I this week,

532
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: I did some trainings for like therapists and professionals and

533
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: law enforcement about sex trafficking and working with survivors of

534
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: sex trafficking and the red flags, the warning signs, trauma

535
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: informed care, all of that stuff. Trauma informed language important.

536
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: And one of the questions that I ask always is,

537
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, why is there such a stigma placed on

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00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: sex workers, on prostitutes, on strippers. Why don't people generally

539
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: in our public think fondly or kindly about strippers? Why

540
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: do we talk badly about them? And it was interesting

541
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: because the women in the room that are professionals and

542
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: work in the field, the women in the room like,

543
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: responded to that question by saying, well, I think that

544
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, women have a negative view

545
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: because our husbands, our boyfriends, our dads, um, the men

546
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: in our family are spending their money on these women.

547
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: And so my question then to them was, well, why

548
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: aren't we mad at the men for spending the money

549
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: in a way that you don't want them to? Absolutely? Right,

550
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: the dancer is dancing, She's doing her job doing and dancing.

551
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: Literally stripping is not harmful to anyone now, no one

552
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: gets hurt. Yeah. Roxane Gay has a really right, um

553
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: short story about this in her book Difficult Woman, which

554
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm Difficult Women, which I really like. I can't remember

555
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: the name but it's also about like following like a

556
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: mixed race sex worker, stripper, dancer, and like the harassment

557
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: that she faces, right, but it's quote her job. I'm

558
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: going to link that somewhere. Yeah. Roxane Gay has a

559
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: new book out called Tongonger. Yeah, um yeah, no, no, no,

560
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: rock San Gay is amazing and she's another thinker, woman

561
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: of color who I think tries to tries to to

562
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: talk about sex work. Right, I would call her like

563
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: a pro holes ho. Yeah, with the pro ho lane.

564
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: She tries to talk about sex or with the pro

565
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: ho land and I think that's so important. I hope

566
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: and like I choose to read and learn from writers

567
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: and thinkers who are very vocally and intentionally pro ho. Absolutely,

568
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Yeah, And I mean we can

569
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: talk about a couple more of our hospirations. Right, So

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00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: we talked about Ambrose, Um. We we've mentioned now Roxangay

571
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: also um little known. But also if you're on social

572
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: media a lot, maybe you've you've you've had this conversation before.

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00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: But another hospiration is um Maya Angelou, Yes, Maya Angelou

574
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: um everything that she was, poet, author, scholar, academic, creative artist.

575
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: She was also a sex worker. She was formerly a

576
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: sex worker, She was formerly an exotic dancer, and that

577
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: piece of her is not really spoken about by people

578
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: who write about Maya Angelou or people who write biographies

579
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: on her. Even trying to find the source was difficult.

580
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: But Maya Angelou in her interviews, she and in her poetry,

581
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: she talks about how she worked as a sex worker.

582
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: She talked about, you know those experiences in in pretty

583
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: plain language. And so I am you know, uh love Tumbler. Yes,

584
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: before Twitter, there was Tumbler. You know, Tumbler Like there's

585
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: all this critical analysis, there's all this history on there um.

586
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: And I really appreciate the space that tumbler has provided

587
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: for women of color, firms of color, queer folk, queer folks, workers,

588
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: my my queer friends. They there's a community because I

589
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: talk about like I G community, right, but they talk

590
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: about their Tumbler queer community. And that's so that's a

591
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: whole different lens exactly. So anyways, are big source that

592
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: we have here. We have a couple. We have a

593
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: tumbler called stripper Notes dot tumbler dot com, um a

594
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: blog by a stripper for strippers and UM in this

595
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: UM post that was I think either written or shared

596
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: by Miss and dream Mermaid. UM. They talk about you

597
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: know when Maya Angelu died, when she passed away. UM

598
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: she died at the age of eighty six. UM that

599
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: the author of this post is asking of all of

600
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: her accolades and the details of her life. Why is

601
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: it that so often UM, her history as a sex

602
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: workers is left out, always and overlooked, And so this

603
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: author writes this, UM, we can once again boil it

604
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: down to respectability, politics, and stigma. I am angry about it.

605
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: I find myself ruminating, considering wondering if her work had

606
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: been talked about as much as her dancing with James Baldwin,

607
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: or even her considerable, commanding and lovely height of six

608
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: feet what would the sex work community look like today

609
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: If we had talked about her wonderful compassion for sex workers,

610
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: how she never looked down on them, and her refusal

611
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: to be into ma dated by invasive and obnoxious questioning

612
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: about her sex working past, what would sex workers around

613
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: the world be saying today in her memory of her life? Instead,

614
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: we read post after post, obituary, obituary after tribute calling

615
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: her a pimp and saying she had an unsuccessful stint

616
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: as a prostitute. The most detailed accounts currently online are

617
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: making sure to emphasize that she spent a brief stint,

618
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: a short time in the sex industry, so as to

619
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: without explicit words, solidify the shame they believe she should

620
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: have felt, the shame we should feel as well. The

621
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: media uses inflammatory terms to get clicks and to emphasize

622
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: the terrible and shameful secret that was, in actuality never

623
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: a secret at all. Dr Angelou herself says she was

624
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: never ashamed. Quoting Dr Angelou, I wrote about my experiences

625
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: because I thought too many people will tell young folks

626
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: I never did anything wrong? Who me never? I I

627
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: have no skeletons in my closet. In fact, I have

628
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: no closet. They lie like that, and then young people

629
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: find themselves in situations and they think, damn, I must

630
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: be a pretty bad guy. My mom or dad never

631
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: did anything wrong. They can't forgive themselves and go on

632
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: with their lives. So I wrote the book Gathered Together

633
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: in My Name about my past as a sex worker.

634
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Um and my Angelou was also famous for saying very plainly,

635
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: she had this really important quote there are many ways

636
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: to prostitute oneself. Right and so, um, I think it's

637
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: so important to talk about my Angelou and her history

638
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: as a sex worker. In addition and because of all

639
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: of her other incredible work, you know. And it's true,

640
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: there are many ways to prostitute oneself. Yeah, not just

641
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: by selling one's body absolutely, um and who else? Who

642
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: are other inspirations? Um we talked about Also Sylvia Rivera

643
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: we did, yes, so um we we found this article. Yeah,

644
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: so Sylvia Rivera, she was a trans woman of color

645
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: and sex worker. UM lad the Stone Wall Riots along

646
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: with Marsha P. Johnson and other another trends queer folks

647
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: that were there, um but really founded, like the q

648
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: T pop liberation movement that was and later pushed out

649
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: by gay mainstream movements essentially um yeah. So also like,

650
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: we can't talk about lgbt Q movement history without talking

651
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: about Sylvie Rivera and right and so we we found

652
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: this article um that was published on Broadly, which is

653
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: like the women's portion of Vice. UM and the author

654
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: Leoni rotoriic Um didn't interview UM with a sex worker

655
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: by the name of Juno mac and Um. Juno talks

656
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: about how sex workers historically have been at the forefront

657
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: of a lot of movements and pushes for equality and

658
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: even you know, UM citing resistance in the against the

659
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: prison industrial complex, in opposition to police violence and boarders

660
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: UM and the fight for drug decriminalization. Right, And so

661
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: this article also talks about UM the LGBT movement even

662
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: being hesitant to acknowledge and include sex workers and the

663
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: role of sex workers, and the role of queer sex

664
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: workers such as Sylvia Rivera right, who was a transgender

665
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: sex worker UM and was so important in that history.

666
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: You know. So I think that when we talk also

667
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: about women's health, yes, about women's health, about our right

668
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: to a decent wage, I think that historically that sex

669
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: workers have been involved in those movements as well, right

670
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: for pay, quality for pay in general, because sex work

671
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: is something that is criminalized and stigmatized. So how can

672
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: you have paid equality in that type of a situation. Yeah, So,

673
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: access to safe working conditions, access to healthcare, all of that,

674
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: all of that is important. All of that. And I

675
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: guess like for us, why do we identify, why do

676
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: we take on the pro ho, Why is that our

677
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: politic Why do we use that term how or reclaim

678
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: it or puta whatever it is that you like to

679
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: call yourself. Right, why do we use those terms? You know,

680
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: thinking about it right now? So prior to you know,

681
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: ViOS f M right, I was for a hot minute

682
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I was love it, yeah, and I think

683
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: UM creating that I think came from a survivor standpoint.

684
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Right around that time, I was like recovering from a

685
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: sexual assault, um and a lot of things. So I

686
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: think that is when I really started to to think

687
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: about like hope practis um and reclaiming my sexuality and

688
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: wanting to feel like my body was mine again, right,

689
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: So really being able to own my body, what I

690
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: do with it. If I take a photo, how I dress,

691
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: so me reclaiming myself right because my power was taken

692
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: from me, right, so I need to get my power back.

693
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: So how am I doing that by dressing how I

694
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: want and not giving a fuck taking a photo and

695
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: not giving a fuck? Um. So really like survivor standpoint.

696
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: I love that. That's beautiful, and I again right like

697
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: hoism should be survivor focused and survivor centric. Um. For me,

698
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: I saw this tweet ones that or maybe I saw

699
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: it on tumbler, but I saw it somewhere where somebody

700
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: had taken home and they turned it into an acronym

701
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: for Heaven on Earth, which I love. And I'm like, well,

702
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: how is just heaven on Earth? How can you not right? So?

703
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: How can you not love it? That's all we all

704
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: want to be in he in any ways, it's right here, um.

705
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: And the other reason is because I come from like

706
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: a really um devout Catholic family. You know, my grandmother

707
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: loves church and and were Mexican Catholics. And I went

708
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: to Catholic school for like nine years and it was

709
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot and it was the type of environment where

710
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: UM talk about shaming girls for like our bodies and

711
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: our clothes. It's nothing but shame. It's one shame oriented

712
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: um education when it comes to girls, our bodies, queer

713
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: students and their bodies. UM, when it comes to sex education,

714
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: it's just all shame. It's all shame. And so I

715
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: feel like for me, coming into hoism and as practice

716
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: is like letting go of all of that, just kind

717
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: of dispelling it for my body, like getting rid of it,

718
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: because the shame is it's crippling and it's it's oppressive.

719
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: And it's not helpful, it's not it's not healthy. Yeah,

720
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: I think, like because the same I come from a

721
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: religious family, so I think also tied with that is

722
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: like this whole idea of body count body So if

723
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: you're if you come from a Catholic family or a

724
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: Christian family a background, there's this emphasis on like, well,

725
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: you have to save yourself for a quote marriage, so

726
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: you can't have a high body count, like I haven't

727
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: have anybody. You can't have anybody, can You should be

728
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: a virgin when you get married, and then if you do,

729
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: it should be like sub I'm gonna make a like

730
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: sub five, right, maybe maybe even that would be high

731
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: for some people, you know, which is fine, do what

732
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: do what you want with your body and who you

733
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: who you spend your time with, who you're intimate with.

734
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: But don't shame folks that perhaps have a higher body

735
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: count or don't need to keep count. You don't need

736
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: to keep count if you don't want to know. I

737
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: think that's what's one really important thing about hoism is

738
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: like and feminism. Womanism is you know, if you're not

739
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: hurting other people, if you're not causing harm to others,

740
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: um and what you're doing is your truth and it

741
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: makes you feel good, then do it. But you don't

742
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: impose your expectations and standards on anybody else. You just don't.

743
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, we expect everyone to respect boundaries, um, to

744
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: not abuse other people, to treat others with respect, Like

745
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: that's basic human decency, you know. But to tell a

746
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: woman or to tell a firm person or anybody that

747
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: they can only have sex with so many, this many

748
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: people under these circumstances for these reasons, funk out of here. No,

749
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: not at all? Um? Why else? Why else do I identify?

750
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: Why else do I identify? Oh? I think because you know,

751
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: I think recently I have really come to the realization

752
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: that like my body is Like I just had this awakening,

753
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: like this epiphany that wow, like my body exists and

754
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: like is living and breathing for my own pleasure. Like

755
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: my body is for me and for nobody else, Like

756
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: literally no one unless I want to share my body

757
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: within their person. Right. So that's part of my hoism,

758
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: is like I'm going to use my body however I

759
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: want to use it because it's mine, you know. Yeah,

760
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: there's something so powerful or so beautiful about being naked

761
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: with yourself like physically naked. Um, that's how I feel whenever,

762
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: like my like my post shower ritual is always like

763
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: coconut oil, moisturizing with coconut and just like looking at

764
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: myself literally like sitting in my vanity naked and just

765
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: looking at myself beautiful, knowing my body like that to

766
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: me like that that is my whole practis as well love,

767
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: self care, self care, self love absolutely, because is there

768
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: is there not even just women? Right masturbating? Is there

769
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: not just that that by itself an activity that involves

770
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: no other people? Right, you're doing it by yourself, But

771
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: there's a stigma to it. Is so even just touching

772
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: your own body, enjoying your own body, you can be

773
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: considered a hoe in a negative way, right because your

774
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: body exists for the pleasure of a man, a man

775
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: of a man, not another partner, but a man. But then,

776
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: isn't it interesting men that sex workers who are allowing

777
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: ment to experience pleasure are so stigmatized because they're benefiting

778
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: financially from extra they're making money. See, we're supposed to

779
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: have sex for free, not come right, And that's okay

780
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: as long as I expected as the other person is

781
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: getting off and they're happy. So I can't benefit in

782
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: any way physically, emotionally, economically, or else. It's derogatory. I'm

783
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: a home, Okay, well I am a home. Yeah, and

784
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: along in the short of it, m M, there's so much,

785
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: so much, there's so much. Why do you all identify

786
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: as homes? Why do you identify as I used to

787
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: in my Instagram bio, I used to have multitasking both,

788
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: which I used to love that. Yeah, that used to

789
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: be my little my my in my bio for a

790
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: while and I love that. And I think that's the

791
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: other part of it is like listen, the hallism. It's

792
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: it's a practice, it's part of our politics, but it

793
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: doesn't it's not consuming our lives all day every day.

794
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: We're doing a whole lot of stuff. Yeah, I saw this,

795
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: I saw this tweet the other a few months ago.

796
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: They're really stuck with me and I still think about

797
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: it now. And it's and it's about how women or

798
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, folks that are are open, they're they're sexually open,

799
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: that they are like hot, like they're kind of I

800
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: want to find it. So I don't butcher, but it's

801
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: something the idea is that when you are sexually free

802
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: and you're open, and you you're very open, right, then

803
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: that's also taken advantage of, that's also exploited, right. And

804
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: I've I've found that to be true with past partners,

805
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: right that because I'm so open or maybe I'm a

806
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: quote ho, well then she won't mind if this happens. Right,

807
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, that's not true. Not so it's it's it's

808
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: like what you're saying, like, yes, it's not does not

809
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: consume my mind, Like I get my multidimensional right, Like,

810
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: just because I I like it this way, it doesn't

811
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: mean that you can do this either. There's still there's

812
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: there's still consents, don't needs to be involved in it

813
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: always and again pro ho. And I like, I get

814
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: frustrated with older feminists. I get frustrated with older feminists

815
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: and older feminists that I know in my life personally,

816
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: because there is always a very quick tendency to turn

817
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: your head around three D and sixty degrees when somebody

818
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: wants to mention how slut slut walk selfies. You know,

819
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of respectability politics in feminism, and

820
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: especially when you're talking to older feminists, and it just is,

821
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: and and I don't like it and it's annoying, you know,

822
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: And so I'm like no, because hoism means exactly what

823
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: trauma informed and survivor centered should mean. That I again

824
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: do my body what I want, when I want, And

825
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: that means I can be picky as hell, and I

826
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: am picky as hell. That means that I say no

827
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: to everybody that I want to say no to, however

828
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: I want to say no. And when I decide to

829
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: say yes, that's my choice and that's my option. Right.

830
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: But being pro HO means your pro HO all the

831
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: way around, your pro ho autonomy, your pro ho autonomy,

832
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: ho power like that your pro ho is making their

833
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: own choices about their own bodies. And and why I

834
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: engage with you sexually and why I don't because this

835
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: right is not a democracy, right I think about the

836
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: man a tweeted ones. This is not a democracy. The

837
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: body is not a democracy. It's a queendom. You know.

838
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: You make all of the rules for your body and

839
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: that's it. Nobody gets to negotiate with you, exactly queensom

840
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: like queen Queensom, Yes, the whole queendom. There are rules,

841
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: There are many rules, are rules and I wrote, I

842
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: write them, and I think that's the constitution absolutely. And

843
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: I think this is part of the thing, is that

844
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Speaker 1: people hear the term home or sexually liberated, they assume

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Speaker 1: that there's no boundaries, no rules, no boundaries, no morals,

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Speaker 1: no limits. I've found that with a partner in the past,

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Speaker 1: where a lot of things happened that I did not

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Speaker 1: consent to it. I was not okay with right. But

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Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, she's open, she's down, she's this,

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Speaker 1: she's that, So she's not going to say no. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not how it works. That's not how consent works

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00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: exactly anyway. So that's why we have to have these

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00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: conversation important important, especially, Yeah, if you find yourself in

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Speaker 1: a relationship and maybe you're doing something you don't want

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Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, And I know, especially in relationships, it

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00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: gets complicated and it can get very gray and fuzzy.

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Speaker 1: But just no, it doesn't matter if you're in a relationship,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're married, it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: you have ten kids together. If you don't want to

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Speaker 1: do something that, you don't have to do anything, point

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Speaker 1: blank serious consent always, And I think we can talk

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Speaker 1: about home is empowerment because I think that historically, derogatory

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00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: terms like slut, whole horror thought are used to take

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Speaker 1: power away from someone because when you label someone a

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Speaker 1: slut or a whore, now it's like we're talking about

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Speaker 1: there's no rules, there's no boundaries, there's no limits of

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Speaker 1: it's a free for all on that person. No, HO

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Speaker 1: is empowering because it's saying I will do whatever I

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Speaker 1: want with my body and you have to play by

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Speaker 1: my rules. It flips it and people have a problem

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00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: with that. And that's why people have a problem basically

872
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: because people don't like when women have ownership of our

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00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: own bodies for our own purposes, for our own benefit.

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Speaker 1: And ure absolutely a girl to be a home to

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Speaker 1: be a home. Yeah, it's fun, it's a fun life.

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00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: It's a fun life. Like today, Um, I'm like really

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Speaker 1: excited because I'm going to go to a pool party

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00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: and like be in my bathing suit and like my

879
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: ass is going to be out and I'm going to

880
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: be really cute and I cannot wait to just go

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: be cute in the sunshine. I can wait to see

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Speaker 1: those photos. It's going to be adorable. And you and

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Speaker 1: that one piece is it that one piece it's that orange, Yes,

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Speaker 1: from pink Plastic. I'll put them. I'll put that, I'll

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Speaker 1: tag them yes so you guys can see it's from

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Speaker 1: because it's cute. Yeah. I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: be out and about in a bathing exactly where a rooftop.

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00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: That's what summer is for, know. Yeah? Perfect? Um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: is there any final thoughts about anything? I'm exhausted to say.

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Speaker 1: I would like I would like about that sounds amazing. Okay,

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00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: after this, let's be going to meet it. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: last final announcements. UM. Oh, by the way, we wanted

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Speaker 1: to say, UM, there is a sex worker activist on

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Speaker 1: Twitter that we want you all to follow. Support UM.

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Speaker 1: A lot of our learning comes from her. Love her.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Raquel Savage at Rackon Savage r q

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Speaker 1: U E L Underscore Savage UM, and she's amazing. Her

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Speaker 1: name on it is like sex therapists. And I've learned

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Speaker 1: so much from her, especially about sex workers, pro hoism,

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Speaker 1: all of that. So she's on Instagram and she's on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: follow her, support her, UM, retweet her learned from her? UM. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We also want to remind you all to check out

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Speaker 1: love it, love it. Yeah. And then we also want

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Speaker 1: to know, um, what's in your home kids? You know,

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Speaker 1: who are some of your hospirations? Yes, who are your

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Speaker 1: greatest hospiration? Let us know, um. And then if you

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Speaker 1: have any idea, if there's something a topic that you

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Speaker 1: want to hear for one of our next you know,

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Speaker 1: we will shout you out and we will talk about absolutely. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So heaven on Earth go be pro ho ho is practice.

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Speaker 1: If you claim to be a feminist, you should be

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Speaker 1: pro ho pro or not yet, do some internal work

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Speaker 1: and figure out why. Yeah, I agree. I hope y'all

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Speaker 1: are enjoying summer. We're officially in summer. We're officially in summer.

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Speaker 1: We want to see all of your summer gear, all

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