Speaker 1: Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gardosky. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys for being here again. Today's Thursday, October sixteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. The next election for your local office
Speaker 1: is coming up in eighteen days. Make a plan and
Speaker 1: go vote, vote by mail, vote early, vote on election day.
Speaker 1: Just make sure your voice is heard in your local elections.
Speaker 1: Now usually start rambling up polls that have come out
Speaker 1: in this party election. But it's crazy. We are in
Speaker 1: a drought of polling. Even though the election is so close,
Speaker 1: we are in a complete drought for quality polls. The
Speaker 1: only statistic I could share with you at an election
Speaker 1: is that in New Jersey they broke One of my
Speaker 1: very smart autistic friends broke down precinct data based on
Speaker 1: race and ethnicity, and he found that in districts that
Speaker 1: are a majority white, they are voting about ten percent
Speaker 1: higher on average than districts that are precincts that are
Speaker 1: majority Black, Hispanic, or Asian. Now that is interesting. So
Speaker 1: why is it interesting is because this is all mail
Speaker 1: in ballads. By the way, if you are less likely
Speaker 1: to show up early for your male in ballot, because
Speaker 1: if if you have an outstanding ballot, you get a
Speaker 1: ballot mail to you, and you're so enthusiastic vote. You
Speaker 1: want to go vote for Trump or Obama, whoever it is.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go vote the first day you get the ballot, right,
Speaker 1: You're so excited to vote. If you put the ballot
Speaker 1: on the table and it collects dust for week one,
Speaker 1: week two, week three, you're not that enthusiastic to go vote.
Speaker 1: So will these people who get mail in ballads vote?
Speaker 1: Most of them absolutely will. But if they're not excited
Speaker 1: to go vote by mail one it's delivered to their house,
Speaker 1: how excited will they be to show up on election day?
Speaker 1: That is a big question. That is the question that
Speaker 1: has plagued mikey Ryl's campaign this entire time. She's not
Speaker 1: popular with a lot of minority voters, and it is
Speaker 1: starting to show in the mail in ballads, even though
Speaker 1: she has a very very strong ground game. So I
Speaker 1: told you all that this episode be a non political episode.
Speaker 1: I said, I wanted to do something easy in light.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of dark news I'm in the last
Speaker 1: few weeks to months, you know, since I think Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk's assassination. So I said, let's do something not intense.
Speaker 1: Let's do something free of a lot of polling conversation,
Speaker 1: and let's just talk about something interesting. And I said,
Speaker 1: let's do a movie episode. I picked ten movies for
Speaker 1: conservatives to watch. Movies are very tough for me to
Speaker 1: give advice on because I am not a movie snob.
Speaker 1: But the movies I tend to like are only liked
Speaker 1: by movie snobs. So I like a lot of art
Speaker 1: house films, some foreign films. I like a lot of
Speaker 1: love old movies. You know, it hurts my heart. And
Speaker 1: when I say old movies, it hurts my heart when
Speaker 1: people sit there and say young people sit there and
Speaker 1: say movies made before two thousand are old, because no
Speaker 1: they're not. My grandparents, my mom's parents put a very
Speaker 1: big influence on me. I grew up watching a lot
Speaker 1: of movies from the forties and fifties and sixties. And
Speaker 1: to any zoomer listening, this is going to shock you.
Speaker 1: But back then, if you watched a movie on television
Speaker 1: and you didn't write the name down, there is a
Speaker 1: likely chance you would never see that movie again. I
Speaker 1: mean unless it came on you know, like TBS would
Speaker 1: play it multiple times. I watched the satire about World
Speaker 1: War Two, about the French resistance in Africa. Don't know
Speaker 1: the name of it. Loved the movie, Never be able
Speaker 1: to see it again. I saw a movie about a
Speaker 1: British kid. It was a kid's show about a British
Speaker 1: kid who like went to an alternate reality to talk
Speaker 1: about time and wasting time, and it was I loved
Speaker 1: that movie when I saw it when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Can never see it again, don't know the name of it,
Speaker 1: We'll never be able to find it. That was your
Speaker 1: relationship to television growing up in the nineties and to
Speaker 1: movies in the nineties. Unless you knew about it and
Speaker 1: you knew the name of it, you were never seeing
Speaker 1: those things ever again. I and anyway, So that's where
Speaker 1: I come from in my opinion, what an old movie is.
Speaker 1: And it's very difficult. So they said for me to
Speaker 1: recommend movies, I like a lot of things that people
Speaker 1: don't like. For this list, I tried my hardest to
Speaker 1: pick movies that you may not have heard of, but
Speaker 1: you would find compelling.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to pay like The Dark Night Rises
Speaker 1: because everyone's seen that movie, right, even though it's a
Speaker 1: great movie that has a very conservative message to it.
Speaker 1: Everyone's seen it, So I don't, like I said there
Speaker 1: in sand movie that everybody's seen. I picked movies that
Speaker 1: were a little bit more obscure but also great and
Speaker 1: a little bit more mainstream that I think that people
Speaker 1: could watch them. So yeah, I did my homework. I
Speaker 1: did my best. I brought my friend John mcintee one time,
Speaker 1: who was the head who was Trump's ppo director for
Speaker 1: the first term. I brought him to see a movie
Speaker 1: called The Last Black Man in San Francisco, and he
Speaker 1: still brings it up as like that was the worst
Speaker 1: movie we have ever seen before in my life, and
Speaker 1: of course you brought me to it. So I tried
Speaker 1: really hard to pick something out. I tried really hard
Speaker 1: to find something that I can recommend, and I think
Speaker 1: most people would sit there and like that have a
Speaker 1: great story, that have a lesson in them. I think
Speaker 1: conservatives can take home with them and maybe things that
Speaker 1: you haven't heard of. So my conversation about ten movies
Speaker 1: every Conservation to watch is coming up next with me
Speaker 1: on today's episode is my buddy, gian Carlo Sopo. He
Speaker 1: is a writer of culture for National Review and an
Speaker 1: all around great guy, also a media strategist for Hispanic outreach.
Speaker 1: Gen Carlo, thank you for being here. It's great to
Speaker 1: be with you. Okay, So, gian Carlo, you are a
Speaker 1: movie buff. You write about culture. When someone says, what's
Speaker 1: it like, give me a good movie? What would you
Speaker 1: consider it a good What is the making is.
Speaker 2: Of a good movie? You know? A lot of it
Speaker 2: is really just instinctual, like I have to experience it.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a perfect formula. But I do
Speaker 2: think that good movies tend to have a couple of
Speaker 2: things in common. They tend to have some kind of
Speaker 2: recognizable moral order, something that we could that we could recognize,
Speaker 2: that we could say, Okay, I understand the rationale of
Speaker 2: these characters. I understand there's some depth to them. I
Speaker 2: understand what either doing, what they're doing, and what's driving
Speaker 2: the story. I also think that there needs to be
Speaker 2: an attention to craft. Not to go classical on you,
Speaker 2: but I do believe that the definition that a quiet
Speaker 2: has put forward for something being beautiful really holds right.
Speaker 2: It has to have integrity, harmony, and radiance. You know
Speaker 2: it when you see it. And then finally, I think
Speaker 2: the very best movies speak to enduring themes, themes that
Speaker 2: really resonate across the ages. That's why we're still talking
Speaker 2: about The Godfather today. That's why we could look at
Speaker 2: a film like Lawrence of Arabia, which is over sixty
Speaker 2: years old, and really recognize something in it, because they
Speaker 2: do tend to speak to enduring themes the humans care about.
Speaker 2: They could be civilizational, psychological, whatever, but I do think
Speaker 2: that those are three of the key components. And then, honestly, look,
Speaker 2: it just has to click. There's a lot of subjectivity
Speaker 2: in art. It's gonna click differently for some people. But
Speaker 2: those are the three things that I look for.
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is we're gonna give our
Speaker 1: top ten list of movies that conservatives should watch. These
Speaker 1: are not ranked, so number ten is not the least
Speaker 1: best and number one is not the best. It's just
Speaker 1: ten movies. I'm just gonna rank them because it's easy
Speaker 1: to understand nine seven, eight, nine ten. Why did you
Speaker 1: first of all pick the movies you picked?
Speaker 2: So I've been working on a project now for most
Speaker 2: of this year, pretty much the entire year that'll be
Speaker 2: coming out in a few weeks, which is a list
Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty films that speak to the
Speaker 2: conservative imagination. I don't want to show my cards a
Speaker 2: little bit too early. In terms of the movies that
Speaker 2: I've selected for that project, I could have easily made
Speaker 2: that a list of two hundred and fifty films. So
Speaker 2: I've tried to focus on films that were not on
Speaker 2: that list, but also films that I think speak to
Speaker 2: a certain conservative sensibility. Whether they're right politically right wing
Speaker 2: or not doesn't really matter to me. If they're a
Speaker 2: movie that if it's a movie that it's essential for
Speaker 2: conservatives to see, uh, because it speaks to something that
Speaker 2: that interests the conservative imagination. Those are the types of
Speaker 2: films that that I selected. Yeah, and I.
Speaker 1: Picked movies that were not like too. I like a
Speaker 1: lot of arts nob films like I do. People hate
Speaker 1: movies I go see, but they will never be a
Speaker 1: mass shooting at a screening for a movie I'm going
Speaker 1: to go see because I'll be the only person in
Speaker 1: the theater. So the the so the movies they see
Speaker 1: are a little bit more obscure, but more recent movies
Speaker 1: than that. I tried to make it, and I because
Speaker 1: I could watch old movies all day, but like I
Speaker 1: try to make it a movie that people will kind
Speaker 1: of interest in. So my first film that I suggested
Speaker 1: to movies that people go see was hacks Our Ridge
Speaker 1: from twenty sixteen, made by Mel Gibson. It was it's more.
Speaker 1: It's not super well known. It's not saving Private Ryan,
Speaker 1: but I think it's a very compelling anti war not
Speaker 1: anti war, but it gives a cautionary tale about war,
Speaker 1: especially World War Two, which is so oftentimes glamorized in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: and the real cost of conflict and war. And there's
Speaker 1: a real Christian element in it. And I love this
Speaker 1: movie for that reason. I'm sure you've seen it.
Speaker 2: It's a fantastic film. I think it's some of Gibson's
Speaker 2: best work. It was nominated for Best Picture, right, i'd
Speaker 2: say in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: If it was not only for Best Actor, I knew that,
Speaker 1: but I don't know it was not only for a
Speaker 1: few wars. It wasn't at the box office. It didn't
Speaker 1: make hundreds of millions dollars. It did fine, but some
Speaker 1: people may have seen it, but it's not, as far
Speaker 1: as World War two movies goes, not the most well known.
Speaker 1: What's a movie you gave.
Speaker 2: So the very first one on my list is They
Speaker 2: Live by I've never seen It Yeah, by by John Carpenter.
Speaker 2: It's a movie from the eighties. This is by no
Speaker 2: means a conservative movie. In fact, the most common reading
Speaker 2: of the film is that it's a Marxist film. It's
Speaker 2: it's about an alien invasion. That's that's happened on Earth.
Speaker 2: We're not aware of it. It's and but by just
Speaker 2: by way of background, the film is a critique of
Speaker 2: the Reagan administration. So it's essentially it's about mind control.
Speaker 2: Humanity is dominated by these aliens. We don't know who
Speaker 2: they are, we can't see them, but there's an underground
Speaker 2: sect led by or not led by but he's been
Speaker 2: joined by Roddy Piper, the old wrestler uh and and
Speaker 2: they have like these really cool glasses where they could
Speaker 2: when they wear the glasses, they look like like almost
Speaker 2: like ray bans. They could see who's an alien and
Speaker 2: who's not. And then they realized that the aliens control
Speaker 2: all the media, they control all the banks, and there
Speaker 2: are subliminal messages across society telling people consume conform. So
Speaker 2: it's an amazing film in terms of if you're into
Speaker 2: political filmmaking that is about as good as it gets.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic. I love I love John Carpenter. Obviously I
Speaker 2: don't share his politics, but he's a brilliant He's dead now, right, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: he's still alive. But you know, yeah, to follow up, yeah,
Speaker 2: to follow up Halloween The Fog They Live, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, those two with They Live is a hell
Speaker 2: of an addition to his canon. And that is just
Speaker 2: like grade A eighties propaganda. That's just fantastic, all right.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: My second pick is the film X Machia from twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen by Alex Garland. This is also not a super
Speaker 1: well known movie. It is about artificial intelligence and at
Speaker 1: the center of the the center theme of the movie
Speaker 1: is what makes somebody a human?
Speaker 2: A lot.
Speaker 1: It's a very slow paced movie. This is not a
Speaker 1: very action film movie. But it's about a billionaire who's
Speaker 1: making a lifelike source, a lifelike you know, robot, and
Speaker 1: someone who works with men who falls in love with them,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of moral questions. It's a lot
Speaker 1: like Frankenstein. It's a lot like a lot of movies
Speaker 1: in those themes of what you know life is who
Speaker 1: God is. You know, can you become a guy when
Speaker 1: you create this artificial life? A lot of those deep
Speaker 1: questions not for everybody, but I really like it. I
Speaker 1: think people should go see it, especially as AI is
Speaker 1: advancing specifically quickly. And this is from ten years ago.
Speaker 1: So that's my second pick.
Speaker 2: What is yours? Well that and I just want to
Speaker 2: say that's a fantastic pick, and he it is is
Speaker 2: it would would it be unfair to say that it
Speaker 2: is like an Elon Musk type character.
Speaker 1: Well, Elon wasn't as well known back then. First of all,
Speaker 1: I want to say the audience one more for one second,
Speaker 1: Jim Carl and I did not like go through our list,
Speaker 1: So I don't know we have repeat movies on them.
Speaker 1: I don't think we do, because I think our tastes
Speaker 1: a little different. It's it's an Elon Musk type fit. Well,
Speaker 1: Elon also is not big on AI, so I mean
Speaker 1: he was, I mean now he is, but two years
Speaker 1: ago he called for a halting of AI research. So
Speaker 1: I don't think it's him. I just think I think
Speaker 1: it's a doctor Frankenstein character. It is that kind of
Speaker 1: personality that does exist, and there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people in Silicon Valley who you know, they may they
Speaker 1: may have watched the Frankenstein movie or read the book
Speaker 1: and rooted for the doctor and said, just do it
Speaker 1: again until you get it right. So, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I think anyway, So what was your second one? So
Speaker 1: my second pick is A Man for All Seasons?
Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen this, yeah, which is that is the
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six Classic Best Picture winner, The story of
Speaker 2: I think if you're a Catholic, it's a must it's
Speaker 2: an absolute must watch of you're a conservative, and it's
Speaker 2: almost like sacramental if you're a Catholic. It's a story
Speaker 2: story of Sir Thomas Moore and his falling out with
Speaker 2: Henry the Eighth. I think it's it's not just only
Speaker 2: a beautiful film in the cinematography and the story and everything,
Speaker 2: but in terms of philosophical and moral complexity, it is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It stands on its own. Uh. There's there's nothing like it. Uh.
Speaker 2: It's really a film for the ages. And you know
Speaker 2: he obviously, uh well, Saint Thomas Moore is a patron
Speaker 2: saint of the Catholic Church and a martyr. And you
Speaker 2: see very clearly why in this film. This his level
Speaker 2: of integrity. And the other thing too, what I like
Speaker 2: about the film is that it's not it's not oversimplified
Speaker 2: his moral choices. He does, he does try to get
Speaker 2: out of what he's facing. He tried every possible avenue
Speaker 2: and he but at the end of the day, he
Speaker 2: felt that his soul was worth a lot more to
Speaker 2: him than expedients. He just didn't want to bless essentially,
Speaker 2: didn't want to bless the marriage. And it's it's it's
Speaker 2: a monumental film, one of the greatests ever made.
Speaker 1: All Right, that's uh, yeah, I like it. I've seen
Speaker 1: it a long time ago now, but it is a
Speaker 1: really good movie. My third pick is is an old
Speaker 1: one of not the same that gave up close to
Speaker 1: it. It is Zulu from nineteen sixty four by side Enfield.
Speaker 2: This is a classic. This is.
Speaker 1: The I'm now Michael, Sir Michael Kaine's early work is
Speaker 1: and he's a he's the actor and one of the
Speaker 1: actors in it. It is a story of the British
Speaker 1: takeover of South Africa and that will fight with the
Speaker 1: Wulu over the Zulus. And you know it's a good
Speaker 1: movie because when you stream on HBM Max. There's a
Speaker 1: warning disclaimer at the very beginning that says, this is
Speaker 1: not culturally reflective of like the times, like this is
Speaker 1: made in a certain time. When you have to make
Speaker 1: a warning like that, it's offensive because it's of a
Speaker 1: certain time. You know, it's a good movie. It really
Speaker 1: glorifies British colonialism.
Speaker 2: And I like it.
Speaker 1: The acting is good, it's interesting, it moves, even though
Speaker 1: it's a little long.
Speaker 2: But it is a great, great.
Speaker 1: Film, and I think that it's probably more accurate to
Speaker 1: what happened than a movie that was made. Probably, Now,
Speaker 1: what is your third if you haven't seen that, but
Speaker 1: you like, make a comment on it, But if you
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, then it's.
Speaker 2: A great film. I watched it for the first time
Speaker 2: last year actually, and I thought it was absolutely fantastic, right,
Speaker 2: so great. Yeah, that battle scene at the very end
Speaker 2: is one of the all time great battle scenes in
Speaker 2: the history of cinema. It also just looks beautiful, I believe,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken that Martin SCORSESEI made a list
Speaker 2: of the most beautiful looking films ever made and he
Speaker 2: ranked that very high on it. So, okay, if you like,
Speaker 2: if you like seeing beautiful art. That is you. You
Speaker 2: really hit it out of the park with that choice.
Speaker 2: So my thing is is a very obvious selection. Yet
Speaker 2: I can't tell you, like, maybe it's just because we're
Speaker 2: getting older and so many years have passed. You and
Speaker 2: I are geriatric millennials. How I encounter people all the
Speaker 2: time now who have not seen this film. I once
Speaker 2: almost fired a client who told me they had not
Speaker 2: seen this movie, And I'm just like, how can you
Speaker 2: understand American culture without having seen this film? And that's
Speaker 2: Francis Ford coppol is the Godfather.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean people of a certain age may not
Speaker 1: have said I was a little older when I saw
Speaker 1: The Phone for the first time.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah. And so obviously it's not just a gangster film.
Speaker 2: And I think Coppola himself intended it almost as a
Speaker 2: critique of American capitalism. In reality, I think it's a
Speaker 2: moral parable. It's almost Shakespearean. It tells, obviously, the story
Speaker 2: of a crime family and the moral compromises that they're
Speaker 2: making in the process toward what they believe are good ends, right, Like, Hey,
Speaker 2: we eventually want to get out of this mob business.
Speaker 2: We want to go legitimate we want to protect each other.
Speaker 2: We literally want to protect our children who are being murdered.
Speaker 2: And it tells the story of how some of those
Speaker 2: compromises it seems small, even if you think that they're
Speaker 2: toward good ends, how they can ultimately doom someone and
Speaker 2: then you just can't escape that evil. And then obviously
Speaker 2: in the sequel we see how it could just destroy
Speaker 2: a man from within and I absolutely kill his soul.
Speaker 2: To me, it's it's a must watch for anyone left,
Speaker 2: right or center, but especially I think if you're a
Speaker 2: conservative and you want to understand culture, it's an absolute
Speaker 2: must watch. It's maybe it's commonly listed on all of
Speaker 2: these lists of the ten greatest movies ever made, and
Speaker 2: for a good reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those movies that if it's on,
Speaker 1: if I passed by the television it's on, I will
Speaker 1: stop and watch more than I should, even though I'm
Speaker 1: busy doing something. Whenever I hear Diane Keaton's scream it
Speaker 1: was an abortion, Michael, It's so, I mean, just peak
Speaker 1: greatest And did you see there was an interesting story
Speaker 1: since she died. That was an old interview that they
Speaker 1: didn't want to hire al Pacino for that movie, and
Speaker 1: Diane Keaton was like, I'm not doing about al Pacino,
Speaker 1: and she got him cast them, which is crazy. I
Speaker 1: think anyone besides al Pacino.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were looking at Nicholson originally, which would have
Speaker 2: been horrible.
Speaker 1: Okay, My next movie, I think this is number four
Speaker 1: four on the list is it's a recent movie. But
Speaker 1: it's a foreign language film, and I know people are
Speaker 1: like a foreign line. I don't want to read. I
Speaker 1: promise you this movie is brilliant. It's called Godzilla Minus one.
Speaker 1: It's in twenty twenty three by Takashami Yamazaki.
Speaker 2: I think I pronounced that name.
Speaker 1: I know I didn't pronounce the name right, but whatever,
Speaker 1: Godzilla minus one. I know you're like, oh, a Godzilla movie.
Speaker 1: This is a beautiful post World War two. It's a
Speaker 1: look at post World War two Japan. It is a
Speaker 1: look at a man who was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: Kamakazi pilot and decided not to fly his plane into
Speaker 1: a warship, an American warship, and the guilt that comes
Speaker 1: from losing a war, and the responsibility towards community, the blame,
Speaker 1: the shame that goes with it, how to rebuild after
Speaker 1: that it is like, if Godzilla was not in this movie,
Speaker 1: it would still be a great movie. Godzilla just happens
Speaker 1: to be in the movie, and it's I cannot cannot
Speaker 1: recommend this movie enough. It is so, so, so good.
Speaker 1: It was the best movie I saw in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three by far. So Okay, have you seen it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2: And what I love about this film is that you
Speaker 2: watch it and you think it's like a two hundred
Speaker 2: million dollar movie. I think they made it with like
Speaker 2: fifteen million bucks or something like that, which in Hollywood
Speaker 2: numbers is pretty small in terms of a budget, and
Speaker 2: it looks for nomenal and like you said, the story,
Speaker 2: there are scenes in it that are almost like Godzilla
Speaker 2: as Jaws. Yes, yes, absolutely what I watched it. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you a funny story. When my mother in law
Speaker 2: moved to America from Cuba, it was the very that
Speaker 2: weekend the movie came out, and one of the very
Speaker 2: first things she did is that we took her to
Speaker 2: watch that in the movie theaters and she was just
Speaker 2: blown away. She'd never been she'd never been in a
Speaker 2: normal movie theater. The movie theaters down there are very
Speaker 2: different than ours and she was absolutely blown away. It
Speaker 2: has that kind of an impact that is so impressive.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what was your movie? Number four?
Speaker 2: So my next one is I think one of the
Speaker 2: great hidden gems of the twenty tents and it's by
Speaker 2: Ridley Scott and it's called The Counselor.
Speaker 1: I've not seen this one by Ridley Scott.
Speaker 2: So this came out in twenty thirteen, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was because of the politics of the
Speaker 2: era or whatever, but it's a story about the border
Speaker 2: right and it's about a lawyer who has a cartel
Speaker 2: client and he essentially tells himself, Okay, I am going
Speaker 2: to dabble in my client's business just this one time,
Speaker 2: this one time, and that's it, and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to touch this again. And unfortunately, like scripture teaches and
Speaker 2: like life teaches itself, sometimes some some sins are so
Speaker 2: bad that you just can't wash your hands of him.
Speaker 2: And he sees how dabbling in the cartel business, along
Speaker 2: with hybrid bardem, how it could really undo his entire existence,
Speaker 2: in his entire life. It's a very bleak film. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to tell you you're gonna feel great, but it's
Speaker 2: a fantastic script, which is funny because it's like what
Speaker 2: people hated about the film, and I like the script
Speaker 2: and it's a very powerful story. And it also just
Speaker 2: shows about very few films I think treat the border
Speaker 2: with the seriousness that it deserves, and this is one
Speaker 2: of those films that really got it right about some
Speaker 2: of the dangers on our southern border. And it's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2: It's got Brad Pitts in it too, Cameron Diaz. So
Speaker 2: if you haven't seen it, make sure to check out
Speaker 2: The counselor.
Speaker 1: Okay, So my next movie is from number I think
Speaker 1: six now or five or whatever. My next movie is
Speaker 1: also in the art from the twenty tens. It is
Speaker 1: Hotel Mumbai from twenty eighteen by the director was Anthony Maras.
Speaker 1: It was about the Mumbai terrorist attacks in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. I did not even know there were terrorist
Speaker 1: attacks at the Hotel Mumbai in Mumbai, Doesney, because it
Speaker 1: happened like two days after Obama was elected, so the
Speaker 1: American media really didn't cover it. But it's about Islamic
Speaker 1: terrorism in India. It is fast paced, it is foreign,
Speaker 1: but they has a lot of English speaking in. It
Speaker 1: is past, it is quick, it is action packed, it
Speaker 1: has a real moral lesson in it. Absolutely a movie
Speaker 1: I've seen probably three or four times and worth watching,
Speaker 1: especially for people who are like, you know whatever, foreign films.
Speaker 1: But this, I promise you it doesn't miss abeat. It's brilliant. Okay,
Speaker 1: your next movie.
Speaker 2: My next movie is also a foreign film. It is
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven's Less Samurai by John Pierre Melville. Okay, now,
Speaker 2: this is the coolest movie ever made. There is no
Speaker 2: debate in terms of just the aesthetics. It is the
Speaker 2: coolest movie ever made. It's been copied a million times.
Speaker 2: Tarantino has copied it in reservoir dogs and in pulp fiction.
Speaker 2: It tells the story of a you know, a professional
Speaker 2: killer who is a hired gun and he's played by
Speaker 2: Alain Delonne. So, for those who don't know, is align
Speaker 2: the loan. He's uh, you know, just a terrific actor
Speaker 2: who would have you know, It's funny because it's almost counterintuitive.
Speaker 2: He would have gotten a lot farther in his career
Speaker 2: if he weren't so damn handsome.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, you would have been taking a lot
Speaker 1: same I have that same problem yeah.
Speaker 2: So, uh you know. So it's about a killer, a
Speaker 2: contract killer who has a moral code, and it's got
Speaker 2: a great story. But the real reason I think for
Speaker 2: watching this film is for the aesthetics. It's the director
Speaker 2: is maybe the greatest director that you haven't that most
Speaker 2: people haven't heard of. His name is John pire Mellville.
Speaker 2: He made some of the best movies of the sixties.
Speaker 2: He was an American file like, he loved America. That's
Speaker 2: not it's not even his real name. He he adopted
Speaker 2: that name. He was famous for driving around Paris and
Speaker 2: a big Cadillac and wearing a stetson and and and
Speaker 2: ray ban. So this this is the guy who loved
Speaker 2: American gangster films and really wanted to bring that vibe
Speaker 2: to France. It is a cool It is just one
Speaker 2: of the coolest looking films I've ever seen. So if
Speaker 2: you have not seen Les Samurai or The Samurai, definitely
Speaker 2: check it out. It's been copied, I said by Tarantino.
Speaker 2: One of its most direct descendants, though, is the Ryan
Speaker 2: gosslingfilm Drive. Mm hmm, yeah, I saw it. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's absolutely fantastic. It's one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 1: Okay, is a my next one? Number six I actually
Speaker 1: I counted because I was very off, But number six
Speaker 1: of the ten that I suggest is an oldie, but
Speaker 1: a classic and a class that people kind of forgot
Speaker 1: in the last thirty years. It's from nineteen ninety one
Speaker 1: by Steven Spielbert and it's Hook, and it is the
Speaker 1: story of Peter Pan grown up. Robin Williams plays Peter Pan,
Speaker 1: Julia Robbers plays tinker Bell, Dustin Hoffman plays Captain Hook.
Speaker 1: And why it is great is if you deconstruct. I
Speaker 1: watched the movie recently and deconstructed it is really a
Speaker 1: celebration about fatherhood, and that's really the essence of the
Speaker 1: entire movie is not about not growing up. It is
Speaker 1: about five fatherhood and why bothers are important, and movies
Speaker 1: like that don't get made very often. So nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: one Hook is my thing, especially if you have younger
Speaker 1: kids and it's not gonna be a Disney movie you
Speaker 1: just turn on. It's a movie you kind of don't
Speaker 1: remember to look for. Just check it out. It is
Speaker 1: very very good. What was your next?
Speaker 2: Don't those stories hit harder now as a dad? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: So what's your nexte? My next? Movie is nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: threes falling Down. Okay, I've never seen this, So this
Speaker 2: is the Michael Douglas goes ape shit movie. So I
Speaker 2: think it's a it's a look. It's a movie about alienation,
Speaker 2: it's a movie about social instability. Conservatives who understand conservatism
Speaker 2: will pick up on a lot here. You know you're
Speaker 2: not gonna like this guy because he's a vigilante and
Speaker 2: because he goes around shooting up a fast food place
Speaker 2: because of false advertising, but you will appreciate how if
Speaker 2: things move too fast, be it through societal change, due
Speaker 2: to changes and laws, due to economic changes, due to
Speaker 2: a lot of new people moving into your community, you
Speaker 2: will recognize how that could really destabilize a society and
Speaker 2: push people who were already vulnerable or on the margins
Speaker 2: or on the fringes towards really dark places. So it's
Speaker 2: not a perfect film. I think it could have been
Speaker 2: a perfect film. I think they made some decisions in
Speaker 2: the third act where you kind of you end up
Speaker 2: thinking that what happens to him is what deserved to
Speaker 2: happen to him. I think a Boulder version of that
Speaker 2: movie would have had him a little bit more restrained
Speaker 2: in the third act, like he shoots a cop in
Speaker 2: the third act, you should not have done that in
Speaker 2: the script.
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert for anyone going to see it, Well, that's
Speaker 1: not a major spoiler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a major spoiler. But you it's a
Speaker 2: kind of movie that I think if the studios had
Speaker 2: had more balls in the early nineties, this is like
Speaker 2: a feel good era and we were like in that
Speaker 2: nineties glow where they would have made a film where
Speaker 2: the ending would have been a little bit more ambiguous,
Speaker 2: where you wouldn't have walked out of there thinking, Okay, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy's a case study, and not in What Not
Speaker 2: to Do. You would have walked out of there thinking
Speaker 2: a little bit more like, Okay, maybe he had a
Speaker 2: point and yeah, and it would have forced you to
Speaker 2: grapple with some of the tensions that he was dealing
Speaker 2: with a little bit better. Okay.
Speaker 1: My next one is I think number seven or six
Speaker 1: or whatever. My next one is Sabrina from nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: four by Billy Wilander. It is a black and white film.
Speaker 1: It's an older film with Audrey Hepfern and Humphrey Bogart,
Speaker 1: and it's an easy movie to watch. It's basically a
Speaker 1: Cinderella story. Why I think Conservits could watch it is because
Speaker 1: Humphrey Bogart gives one of the best defenses of capitalism
Speaker 1: you will watch in a movie when he discusses why
Speaker 1: he is so in love with his job and how
Speaker 1: great industry is very very easy movie to watch, has
Speaker 1: a good lesson in it, but overall quick and easy.
Speaker 1: But I do love that movie from Billy. Billy Wilder's
Speaker 1: probably top three greatest American directors that ever lived, so
Speaker 1: it's great.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'm glad you didn't mention the Harrison Ford remake.
Speaker 1: And no, I would not do that to anybody.
Speaker 2: My next film, it's a movie from nineteen seventy directed
Speaker 2: by Bertolucci. It's an Italian film. It's called The Conformist,
Speaker 2: which is it's a great lesson for anyone who works
Speaker 2: in politics. It's a story about an operative for Mussolini
Speaker 2: who essentially gets hired or ordered to knock off somebody
Speaker 2: close to him. And what you eventually start realizing about
Speaker 2: this guy is that he's just a careerist. He was
Speaker 2: never really a Mussolini guy or a Fascist or whatever.
Speaker 2: He was just a guy who was in this for
Speaker 2: personal advance in it. So, you know, I think that
Speaker 2: if you work in this business, it's always good to
Speaker 2: have a north star and to be very clear about
Speaker 2: why you're in this and I think this movie has
Speaker 2: a lot to offer that. And by the end of
Speaker 2: the film you see that he didn't believe in anything
Speaker 2: at all. I'm not giving away any spoilers, but it's
Speaker 2: also just one of the best looking films you'll ever see.
Speaker 2: If you'd like cinematography, The Conformist is one of the best,
Speaker 2: and honestly, it's also just one of the most influential
Speaker 2: movies ever made.
Speaker 1: One of you know something, very typical people in policies.
Speaker 1: They end up not believing in anything at all. Okay,
Speaker 1: my third to last mine is Belfast from twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one by Kenneth Brana. This is the story of Belfast,
Speaker 1: Ireland during the Troubles. I have family in Ireland during
Speaker 1: that who moved from New York to Ireland during the troubles.
Speaker 1: I should have a whole episode on that one day.
Speaker 1: He but it is a story of life in Northern
Speaker 1: Ireland and it is black and white for most of
Speaker 1: the movie. It is sad and it is happy about
Speaker 1: being said, it is the most Irish movie I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: But I love it.
Speaker 1: It's a story of childhood, youth and both longing for
Speaker 1: a better life, of being being confined to certain things.
Speaker 1: Everyone's on a different path, everyone's in a certain different thing,
Speaker 1: and so there's a real love for community, even when
Speaker 1: community is terrible. Great, great, great movie love it really
Speaker 1: really recommend this. I shouldn't have my grandparents and it
Speaker 1: was like their favorite movie ever. So Belfast by Kenneth Brono.
Speaker 2: It's yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My next one is a movie called Joe from nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: This is a grindhouse movie. It's a okay, this is
Speaker 2: like cinema veritas American style in the seventies. It is
Speaker 2: directed by John Adilson, the same guy who did Rocky
Speaker 2: and Lean On Me and The Karate Kid. And the
Speaker 2: reason why I say that is because a lot of
Speaker 2: people say that this is like an anti right wing movie,
Speaker 2: and I don't think a guy who made those films
Speaker 2: and was set to direct Reagan but died of cancer
Speaker 2: before he was able to do it, it could be
Speaker 2: really that anti right wing. So it's I think it's
Speaker 2: better understood as a critique of the right from within
Speaker 2: the right. So it's also a story of an upper
Speaker 2: middle class executive whose daughter goes down the wrong starts
Speaker 2: hanging out the wrong people in the counterculture, and she
Speaker 2: gets involved with the hippie. The guy kills the hippie,
Speaker 2: and so he's so the executive guy's already on the
Speaker 2: wrong track. But then he goes to a bar and
Speaker 2: there's this loud mouth at a bar who's saying, like
Speaker 2: these obscene, crazy racist rants. And the whole point is
Speaker 2: is like, this guy is a caricature. Everybody in this
Speaker 2: movie is kind of a caricature of the worst versions
Speaker 2: of themselves. But the point though, is that this guy
Speaker 2: should have been at a stage where he's okay, like
Speaker 2: facing justice and some kind of contrition. But because he
Speaker 2: befriends this guy, he creates almost like a permission structure
Speaker 2: for what he just did to his daughter's boyfriends. It
Speaker 2: has a very tragic ending. It's also just a fun movie.
Speaker 2: You're gonna laugh your ass off by hearing the things
Speaker 2: that this guy says that are I could ever say
Speaker 2: and we would all get canceled. But you can imagine
Speaker 2: people laughing in movie theaters in the seventies watching some
Speaker 2: of this. It's called Joe. It's not easy to find,
Speaker 2: I think, but you probably it's probably found it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It may even be on Amazon Prime. This really quick story.
Speaker 1: I was I would see Death Wish in the theaters
Speaker 1: in New York, but it was like a very hipster
Speaker 1: theater Death Wish from the seventies. And when watching it
Speaker 1: too like hipster Transplants. Clearly Transplants said New York can
Speaker 1: have possibly been that bad. It's like, I hate these people,
Speaker 1: but I love movies from the seventies, so you mention it, okay.
Speaker 1: Second to last from me, This is from twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: by Armando in New Scene. He's a director. It's called
Speaker 1: Death of Stalin. It is a dark comedy and I
Speaker 1: mean dark, but it is very very funny if you
Speaker 1: pay attention to the conversations happening. And I think, why
Speaker 1: a conservation watch this movie is it's actually accurate. It
Speaker 1: is more accurate than not accurate detail of what happens
Speaker 1: in a non democracy when there is a transfer of power,
Speaker 1: and how violent it is, and how the section of
Speaker 1: power happens, and how oftentimes what follows is what follows
Speaker 1: a dictator is usually chaos and destruction and not this
Speaker 1: clean transition towards you know, Jeffersonian democracy. So Death of
Speaker 1: Stalin from twenty eighteen is my second to last pick.
Speaker 2: What's yours? That's a great pick. My second to last
Speaker 2: is a silent film, nineteen twenty One's The Kid all Time?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my favor at all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's one of the greatest movies of all time.
Speaker 2: It's it's one of the greatest stories about well, it
Speaker 2: is the greatest story about surrogate fatherhood. What I love
Speaker 2: about this film and why I think conservatives should watch it,
Speaker 2: is that it really speaks to a sense of duty.
Speaker 2: This guy was not planning to be a dad. He
Speaker 2: was just like some tramp. He like literally stumbles upon
Speaker 2: a kid. There's a and he the only reason why
Speaker 2: he takes him home is because he doesn't want the
Speaker 2: cop who saw him stumble over the kid to think
Speaker 2: that he was kidnapping the child. So he just acted
Speaker 2: like everything was going was honckey dor and he just
Speaker 2: took the kid home, and he ended up growing very
Speaker 2: attached to the kid and raising him. It's a beautiful film,
Speaker 2: Like everything that Chaplin did, It's it shows you some
Speaker 2: of the rough edges of society at the time, but
Speaker 2: with very deep, like humanistick lessons that you could really
Speaker 2: take away. And it's one of my favorite films too.
Speaker 1: That is my favorite, is my number one favorite movie
Speaker 1: of old I see it constantly.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: My last pick for this number ten movie conservatives watch
Speaker 1: is a movie called April Ninth. It was made in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen by Ronnie Ezra.
Speaker 2: Have you heard of it?
Speaker 1: I've not heard of this one. Okay, Wow, I found
Speaker 1: on a movie that even Jim Carlos. It is free
Speaker 1: on YouTube to watch. It is a Danish movie. It
Speaker 1: is all in Danish. It is the story of Danish
Speaker 1: resistance to Nazi Germany from the perspective of a lieutenant.
Speaker 1: And it is really a question of what is your
Speaker 1: role when you are faced with insurmountable odds? How much
Speaker 1: do you owe to a cause or to a country
Speaker 1: when you cannot succeed in what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of conservatives when things are very bleak,
Speaker 1: would resonate with this message. It's a very very powerful movie.
Speaker 1: There's one really powerful scene where the farm woman was
Speaker 1: like you could just hide out and she goes, you know,
Speaker 1: this country was Germany, then it was Denmark. Doesn't matter
Speaker 1: to me, and he says it matters a lot to me. Beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful movie in Danish, free on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Jim Carlo, your last movie, So my final pick, and
Speaker 2: on a positive note, is White Christmas. Kay, So I
Speaker 2: wanted to end on a high note. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to tell you that I think it's the greatest Christmas
Speaker 2: movie ever made. It's a little kitch uh, it's a
Speaker 2: little Sacharin, a little sentimental, but it's very sincere. So
Speaker 2: it's it's about a couple of army buddies who they
Speaker 2: essentially they go on vacation and they end up at
Speaker 2: the at the at the Vermont Inn of their old
Speaker 2: military superior and the place is about to go out
Speaker 2: of business because it hasn't snowed, and so they essentially
Speaker 2: so it's Bing Crosby and Danny k and they summon
Speaker 2: they they're able to go on TV and they summon
Speaker 2: their entire platoon to join them. At the end time, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it does have one of the most heartwarming and beautiful
Speaker 2: endings in all of cinema. I every time I watch
Speaker 2: that film, I just look over to my wife, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, this got to me. It's just a
Speaker 2: great movie about camaraderie, patriotism and loyalty and friendship, and
Speaker 2: you know it's it kind of masksself as a romantic film.
Speaker 2: I don't really think that's that's the heart of it.
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's a coincidence that that movie
Speaker 2: was made at a time when we had a general
Speaker 2: as president. So I think it's a It's a gorgeous
Speaker 2: film and definitely put it on your watch list for
Speaker 2: this Christmas season.
Speaker 1: Well, gian Carlo, where could we go to read more
Speaker 1: of your stuff?
Speaker 2: So they could read me at National Review or they
Speaker 2: can follow me on Twitter. I've been posting a lot
Speaker 2: less there, just just busy with being a dad. But
Speaker 2: you could follow me at National Review and I'll I'll
Speaker 2: have a lot more to share about movies on this
Speaker 2: project that I've been working on in the next couple weeks.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to retweet it when it comes out, So
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. Giancarlo, thank you for coming on this podcast.
Speaker 2: No, thank you for having me. Ryan.
Speaker 1: Hey, we'll be right back after this. Now it's time
Speaker 1: for the Ask Me Anything segment. If you guys want
Speaker 1: to be part of the Ask Me Anything segment, email
Speaker 1: me ryanat Numbers Gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan at Numbers
Speaker 1: gamepodcast dot com. I love getting these questions. I have
Speaker 1: a few built ups, so I'm trying to get through
Speaker 1: more than one per episode. This question comes from Jennifer
Speaker 1: in Florida. She writes about a month ago she started
Speaker 1: tracking local registration in her county, which has a large
Speaker 1: university as a blue county in Florida. Because of the
Speaker 1: Supervisor of Elections announced that she would be doing outreach
Speaker 1: at college campus events. Weekly net registration by party has shown,
Speaker 1: but she included the attachment that there are no new
Speaker 1: Democrats in the last three weeks and one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy new Republicans and two hundred and sixteen new others.
Speaker 1: Why do you think some people are registering as others
Speaker 1: basically not in either party? And why are so few
Speaker 1: registering as Democrats? And are you of ver any state
Speaker 1: laws that require university students to vote in their home
Speaker 1: precincts if they're still dependence on their parents. Okay, so
Speaker 1: the first question is the purge three weeks ago about four.
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, Florida did a regular voter registration purge.
Speaker 1: All states do it. They said, there in state who's
Speaker 1: been inactive for years, and they assume that they moved.
Speaker 2: Or they died.
Speaker 1: And I looked at this data for this precinct and
Speaker 1: this county, and there was enormous drop off for Democrats
Speaker 1: who either had moved or died or were completely inactive
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. So they registered not zero,
Speaker 1: they registered more than zero, but the numbers that they
Speaker 1: lost in that purge exceeded that the numbers that they gained.
Speaker 1: And why are they registering so few voters is because
Speaker 1: their brand is terrible. I mean the brand of you know,
Speaker 1: if you're not registering for an election that's coming up, right,
Speaker 1: if you like, if you like the presence she's coming up,
Speaker 1: I got a register to vote.
Speaker 2: I got to registered to vote.
Speaker 1: Unless thing like that is happening that's motivating you to vote,
Speaker 1: you're more than likely just either someone who just moved
Speaker 1: to an area or someone who just turned eighteen. And
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is not They just don't have a leadership,
Speaker 1: they don't have a message. They're very isolating to a
Speaker 1: lot of different people. Republicans don't have an amazing brand name,
Speaker 1: but it's better than Democrats. And a lot of people
Speaker 1: are just picking independence because they don't want to belong
Speaker 1: to a party one of the two parties that they
Speaker 1: feel are you know, service to the country or to
Speaker 1: voters as a whole. This is the question on voter
Speaker 1: registration for college kids. I looked up the law in Florida.
Speaker 1: College kids can register either at their home that their
Speaker 1: parents live at, or at their college campus and their dorm,
Speaker 1: so they don't need to have registered where where they're
Speaker 1: dependent on their parents. They can register to vote in
Speaker 1: the dorm that they live on. That is the case.
Speaker 1: Every state is a little different. That is the case
Speaker 1: in a lot of important swing states like Wisconsin, where
Speaker 1: there's a lot of college kids at Wisconsin who register
Speaker 1: at their dorms and they have to be lefties. But
Speaker 1: that's a New Hampshire I think is the same exact way.
Speaker 1: That's a big question from individual states. But Florida, you
Speaker 1: can register at your dorm. I did look that up. Okay.
Speaker 1: Next question comes from Ryan Shannon. He writes, farmers and
Speaker 1: Democrats say you can't get rid of illegal workers because
Speaker 1: our crops will go up.
Speaker 2: You touched on the show.
Speaker 1: On your show, why don't Republicans Dems whoever actually helps
Speaker 1: shows a chart of how much it will cost the
Speaker 1: strawberries would be how much if we hired Americans? I
Speaker 1: will help one side of the aisle. So clearly they
Speaker 1: don't care. Okay, So he said, welcome to my TED. Well,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Thank you Ryan
Speaker 1: for asking that question.
Speaker 2: I was by way.
Speaker 1: It was National Ryan Day the other day, so I
Speaker 1: hope you celebrated by liking and subscribing to this podcast.
Speaker 1: The question of how much will crops go if you
Speaker 1: hire only Americans?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 1: Okay, A, you don't need to hire only Americans. You
Speaker 1: could hire h two A vs A holders because hwavs
Speaker 1: holders all have an unlimited supply and they're legally here
Speaker 1: and farmer farming companies manufacturing companies manufacturing, but agriculture companies
Speaker 1: have to subsity have to pay for some of their
Speaker 1: housing and transportation and other things in case they get
Speaker 1: injured or where they have to stay. That would otherwise
Speaker 1: who knows where they would go, But they don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. They want to go to illegal aliens.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 1: You can hire Americans. It's perfectly you know fine, and
Speaker 1: a lot of places do hire Americans to do some things.
Speaker 1: And third is that you could just mechanize. You can
Speaker 1: go to machines and have a one time increase for
Speaker 1: the cost that your your machine's never going to get sick,
Speaker 1: it's going to work harder. There's cameras like this is
Speaker 1: this is so, this is so nonsensical. They're arguing that
Speaker 1: it's only going to go. But if you have to
Speaker 1: hire an American for forty dollars an hour, it's just
Speaker 1: that's not true. It's such a lie. And the reason
Speaker 1: they can't keep a their estimate out is because look
Speaker 1: at what happened during the terrified during the first Trump
Speaker 1: term over things like tuna. They were saying, tuna cans,
Speaker 1: we're going to cost like ten dollars a can because
Speaker 1: of tax tariffs on aluminum. That never happened, like it was,
Speaker 1: it was all a lie. A lot of these statistics
Speaker 1: and numbers they throw out for projections are to make
Speaker 1: a case for their side. Sometimes it happens a lot
Speaker 1: of times it doesn't. Uh And as far as what
Speaker 1: the answer is, the answer for your industry is to
Speaker 1: do what other countries that don't depend on slave wage
Speaker 1: labor to do. Japan does not import a million Mexicans
Speaker 1: to pick rice every year. They've mechanized the process. We
Speaker 1: can mechanize the process. We can make it cost efficient
Speaker 1: that farmers can sit there on hire machines to do
Speaker 1: the work and to make sure that crops grow. It
Speaker 1: will make things cheaper. Ultimately, the one important detail is
Speaker 1: that the number one driver of food costs, besides regular
Speaker 1: monetary inflation, is energy supplied. How much it costs to
Speaker 1: get your food to your local grocery store is a
Speaker 1: big reason as to why your food prices are going up.
Speaker 1: Energy energy, energy, energy, and then also electricity to store
Speaker 1: and cool those things. And as electricity prices arising, is
Speaker 1: that those numbers are moving and filtering down to your
Speaker 1: local grocery store. So that's the answer. Why it's something
Speaker 1: they don't care. They bring up these kinds of statistics
Speaker 1: all the time. Ryan, It's just that they are using
Speaker 1: whatever data they need to use to make their case
Speaker 1: and for political reasons. It's not just the most accurate
Speaker 1: place I think you would find them, but someone's going
Speaker 1: to talk about it more so, thank you for bringing
Speaker 1: this up. Thank you all for listening. If you like
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