WEBVTT - It's a Numbers Game: Reel Values: The Morality and Meaning Behind Great Films 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gardosky. Thank 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.760 you guys for being here again. Today's Thursday, October sixteenth, 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.200 twenty twenty five. The next election for your local office 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.160 is coming up in eighteen days. Make a plan and 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.360 go vote, vote by mail, vote early, vote on election day. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.040 Just make sure your voice is heard in your local elections. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.759 Now usually start rambling up polls that have come out 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.440 in this party election. But it's crazy. We are in 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.120 a drought of polling. Even though the election is so close, 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.199 we are in a complete drought for quality polls. The 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.360 only statistic I could share with you at an election 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.640 is that in New Jersey they broke One of my 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.760 very smart autistic friends broke down precinct data based on 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.080 race and ethnicity, and he found that in districts that 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.080 are a majority white, they are voting about ten percent 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.440 higher on average than districts that are precincts that are 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.520 majority Black, Hispanic, or Asian. Now that is interesting. So 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.160 why is it interesting is because this is all mail 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.720 in ballads. By the way, if you are less likely 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.600 to show up early for your male in ballot, because 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.680 if if you have an outstanding ballot, you get a 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.920 ballot mail to you, and you're so enthusiastic vote. You 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.320 want to go vote for Trump or Obama, whoever it is. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.760 You're gonna go vote the first day you get the ballot, right, 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.400 You're so excited to vote. If you put the ballot 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.520 on the table and it collects dust for week one, 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.840 week two, week three, you're not that enthusiastic to go vote. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.919 So will these people who get mail in ballads vote? 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.440 Most of them absolutely will. But if they're not excited 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.680 to go vote by mail one it's delivered to their house, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.520 how excited will they be to show up on election day? 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.000 That is a big question. That is the question that 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.800 has plagued mikey Ryl's campaign this entire time. She's not 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.240 popular with a lot of minority voters, and it is 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.040 starting to show in the mail in ballads, even though 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.360 she has a very very strong ground game. So I 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.680 told you all that this episode be a non political episode. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.880 I said, I wanted to do something easy in light. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.840 There's a lot of dark news I'm in the last 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.240 few weeks to months, you know, since I think Charlie 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.560 Kirk's assassination. So I said, let's do something not intense. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.639 Let's do something free of a lot of polling conversation, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.600 and let's just talk about something interesting. And I said, 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.880 let's do a movie episode. I picked ten movies for 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:19.760 conservatives to watch. Movies are very tough for me to 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.560 give advice on because I am not a movie snob. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.240 But the movies I tend to like are only liked 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.960 by movie snobs. So I like a lot of art 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.720 house films, some foreign films. I like a lot of 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.600 love old movies. You know, it hurts my heart. And 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.120 when I say old movies, it hurts my heart when 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.600 people sit there and say young people sit there and 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:45.040 say movies made before two thousand are old, because no 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.120 they're not. My grandparents, my mom's parents put a very 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.119 big influence on me. I grew up watching a lot 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.320 of movies from the forties and fifties and sixties. And 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.960 to any zoomer listening, this is going to shock you. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.480 But back then, if you watched a movie on television 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.320 and you didn't write the name down, there is a 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.200 likely chance you would never see that movie again. I 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.920 mean unless it came on you know, like TBS would 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.880 play it multiple times. I watched the satire about World 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.480 War Two, about the French resistance in Africa. Don't know 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.840 the name of it. Loved the movie, Never be able 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.480 to see it again. I saw a movie about a 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.480 British kid. It was a kid's show about a British 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.720 kid who like went to an alternate reality to talk 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.160 about time and wasting time, and it was I loved 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:25.679 that movie when I saw it when I was a kid. 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:27.640 Can never see it again, don't know the name of it, 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.959 We'll never be able to find it. That was your 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.200 relationship to television growing up in the nineties and to 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.640 movies in the nineties. Unless you knew about it and 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.760 you knew the name of it, you were never seeing 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.640 those things ever again. I and anyway, So that's where 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.800 I come from in my opinion, what an old movie is. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.440 And it's very difficult. So they said for me to 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.720 recommend movies, I like a lot of things that people 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.400 don't like. For this list, I tried my hardest to 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.120 pick movies that you may not have heard of, but 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.560 you would find compelling. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:03:59.000 Right. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.200 I didn't want to pay like The Dark Night Rises 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.920 because everyone's seen that movie, right, even though it's a 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.640 great movie that has a very conservative message to it. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.320 Everyone's seen it, So I don't, like I said there 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.600 in sand movie that everybody's seen. I picked movies that 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.640 were a little bit more obscure but also great and 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.840 a little bit more mainstream that I think that people 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.120 could watch them. So yeah, I did my homework. I 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.440 did my best. I brought my friend John mcintee one time, 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.680 who was the head who was Trump's ppo director for 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.280 the first term. I brought him to see a movie 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.760 called The Last Black Man in San Francisco, and he 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.200 still brings it up as like that was the worst 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.640 movie we have ever seen before in my life, and 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.279 of course you brought me to it. So I tried 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.080 really hard to pick something out. I tried really hard 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:43.960 to find something that I can recommend, and I think 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.919 most people would sit there and like that have a 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.440 great story, that have a lesson in them. I think 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.240 conservatives can take home with them and maybe things that 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:56.320 you haven't heard of. So my conversation about ten movies 0:04:56.400 --> 0:05:02.880 every Conservation to watch is coming up next with me 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.479 on today's episode is my buddy, gian Carlo Sopo. He 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.920 is a writer of culture for National Review and an 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:13.160 all around great guy, also a media strategist for Hispanic outreach. 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.039 Gen Carlo, thank you for being here. It's great to 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.120 be with you. Okay, So, gian Carlo, you are a 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.320 movie buff. You write about culture. When someone says, what's 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.359 it like, give me a good movie? What would you 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.240 consider it a good What is the making is. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.080 Of a good movie? You know? A lot of it 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:33.600 is really just instinctual, like I have to experience it. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.520 I don't think there's a perfect formula. But I do 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.680 think that good movies tend to have a couple of 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:45.039 things in common. They tend to have some kind of 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:51.160 recognizable moral order, something that we could that we could recognize, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.360 that we could say, Okay, I understand the rationale of 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.320 these characters. I understand there's some depth to them. I 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.120 understand what either doing, what they're doing, and what's driving 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:09.479 the story. I also think that there needs to be 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:14.120 an attention to craft. Not to go classical on you, 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.680 but I do believe that the definition that a quiet 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.280 has put forward for something being beautiful really holds right. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:26.440 It has to have integrity, harmony, and radiance. You know 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.080 it when you see it. And then finally, I think 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:37.000 the very best movies speak to enduring themes, themes that 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.400 really resonate across the ages. That's why we're still talking 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.920 about The Godfather today. That's why we could look at 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.479 a film like Lawrence of Arabia, which is over sixty 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.600 years old, and really recognize something in it, because they 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:56.560 do tend to speak to enduring themes the humans care about. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:01.560 They could be civilizational, psychological, whatever, but I do think 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.599 that those are three of the key components. And then, honestly, look, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.800 it just has to click. There's a lot of subjectivity 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.200 in art. It's gonna click differently for some people. But 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.280 those are the three things that I look for. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.840 So what we're gonna do is we're gonna give our 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.960 top ten list of movies that conservatives should watch. These 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.440 are not ranked, so number ten is not the least 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.720 best and number one is not the best. It's just 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.240 ten movies. I'm just gonna rank them because it's easy 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:31.560 to understand nine seven, eight, nine ten. Why did you 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.840 first of all pick the movies you picked? 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.560 So I've been working on a project now for most 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.400 of this year, pretty much the entire year that'll be 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.360 coming out in a few weeks, which is a list 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.240 of one hundred and fifty films that speak to the 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.960 conservative imagination. I don't want to show my cards a 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:51.720 little bit too early. In terms of the movies that 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.200 I've selected for that project, I could have easily made 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.400 that a list of two hundred and fifty films. So 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.680 I've tried to focus on films that were not on 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.160 that list, but also films that I think speak to 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.800 a certain conservative sensibility. Whether they're right politically right wing 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.480 or not doesn't really matter to me. If they're a 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.840 movie that if it's a movie that it's essential for 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.600 conservatives to see, uh, because it speaks to something that 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:20.080 that interests the conservative imagination. Those are the types of 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.280 films that that I selected. Yeah, and I. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.360 Picked movies that were not like too. I like a 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.720 lot of arts nob films like I do. People hate 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.640 movies I go see, but they will never be a 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.800 mass shooting at a screening for a movie I'm going 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.160 to go see because I'll be the only person in 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.839 the theater. So the the so the movies they see 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.360 are a little bit more obscure, but more recent movies 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.439 than that. I tried to make it, and I because 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.280 I could watch old movies all day, but like I 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.840 try to make it a movie that people will kind 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.240 of interest in. So my first film that I suggested 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.120 to movies that people go see was hacks Our Ridge 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.520 from twenty sixteen, made by Mel Gibson. It was it's more. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.360 It's not super well known. It's not saving Private Ryan, 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:08.280 but I think it's a very compelling anti war not 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.800 anti war, but it gives a cautionary tale about war, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:17.239 especially World War Two, which is so oftentimes glamorized in Hollywood, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.840 and the real cost of conflict and war. And there's 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.080 a real Christian element in it. And I love this 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.800 movie for that reason. I'm sure you've seen it. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.920 It's a fantastic film. I think it's some of Gibson's 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.400 best work. It was nominated for Best Picture, right, i'd 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:34.400 say in twenty sixteen. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.400 If it was not only for Best Actor, I knew that, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:37.800 but I don't know it was not only for a 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.960 few wars. It wasn't at the box office. It didn't 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.040 make hundreds of millions dollars. It did fine, but some 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.439 people may have seen it, but it's not, as far 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.200 as World War two movies goes, not the most well known. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:49.720 What's a movie you gave. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.719 So the very first one on my list is They 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:57.400 Live by I've never seen It Yeah, by by John Carpenter. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.600 It's a movie from the eighties. This is by no 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.600 means a conservative movie. In fact, the most common reading 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:09.080 of the film is that it's a Marxist film. It's 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:13.080 it's about an alien invasion. That's that's happened on Earth. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.920 We're not aware of it. It's and but by just 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.000 by way of background, the film is a critique of 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.840 the Reagan administration. So it's essentially it's about mind control. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.959 Humanity is dominated by these aliens. We don't know who 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.199 they are, we can't see them, but there's an underground 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.560 sect led by or not led by but he's been 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:39.760 joined by Roddy Piper, the old wrestler uh and and 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.120 they have like these really cool glasses where they could 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.760 when they wear the glasses, they look like like almost 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.439 like ray bans. They could see who's an alien and 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.120 who's not. And then they realized that the aliens control 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.839 all the media, they control all the banks, and there 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:03.240 are subliminal messages across society telling people consume conform. So 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.800 it's an amazing film in terms of if you're into 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.600 political filmmaking that is about as good as it gets. 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.120 It's fantastic. I love I love John Carpenter. Obviously I 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:20.599 don't share his politics, but he's a brilliant He's dead now, right, No, no, no, no, 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:25.000 he's still alive. But you know, yeah, to follow up, yeah, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:31.640 to follow up Halloween The Fog They Live, you know, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:36.000 I'm sorry, those two with They Live is a hell 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.960 of an addition to his canon. And that is just 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:44.160 like grade A eighties propaganda. That's just fantastic, all right. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:44.720 I love that. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.600 My second pick is the film X Machia from twenty 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.680 fourteen by Alex Garland. This is also not a super 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:57.000 well known movie. It is about artificial intelligence and at 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:01.560 the center of the the center theme of the movie 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.680 is what makes somebody a human? 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:04.160 A lot. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.319 It's a very slow paced movie. This is not a 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.199 very action film movie. But it's about a billionaire who's 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:15.839 making a lifelike source, a lifelike you know, robot, and 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.480 someone who works with men who falls in love with them, 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.560 and there's a lot of moral questions. It's a lot 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:26.280 like Frankenstein. It's a lot like a lot of movies 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.840 in those themes of what you know life is who 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.880 God is. You know, can you become a guy when 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.280 you create this artificial life? A lot of those deep 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.920 questions not for everybody, but I really like it. I 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.320 think people should go see it, especially as AI is 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.559 advancing specifically quickly. And this is from ten years ago. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.240 So that's my second pick. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.679 What is yours? Well that and I just want to 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:54.960 say that's a fantastic pick, and he it is is 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:56.679 it would would it be unfair to say that it 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.720 is like an Elon Musk type character. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.560 Well, Elon wasn't as well known back then. First of all, 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.520 I want to say the audience one more for one second, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.880 Jim Carl and I did not like go through our list, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.120 So I don't know we have repeat movies on them. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.520 I don't think we do, because I think our tastes 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.600 a little different. It's it's an Elon Musk type fit. Well, 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.199 Elon also is not big on AI, so I mean 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.120 he was, I mean now he is, but two years 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.319 ago he called for a halting of AI research. So 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.559 I don't think it's him. I just think I think 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.440 it's a doctor Frankenstein character. It is that kind of 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.520 personality that does exist, and there are a lot of 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.559 people in Silicon Valley who you know, they may they 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.200 may have watched the Frankenstein movie or read the book 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.080 and rooted for the doctor and said, just do it 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.760 again until you get it right. So, yeah, that's what 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.680 I think anyway, So what was your second one? So 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.880 my second pick is A Man for All Seasons? 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:55.480 Okay, I've seen this, yeah, which is that is the 0:13:55.880 --> 0:14:00.200 nineteen sixty six Classic Best Picture winner, The story of 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.960 I think if you're a Catholic, it's a must it's 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.000 an absolute must watch of you're a conservative, and it's 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.839 almost like sacramental if you're a Catholic. It's a story 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.920 story of Sir Thomas Moore and his falling out with 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.400 Henry the Eighth. I think it's it's not just only 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:21.440 a beautiful film in the cinematography and the story and everything, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:26.320 but in terms of philosophical and moral complexity, it is. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:27.320 Uh. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.320 It stands on its own. Uh. There's there's nothing like it. Uh. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:36.960 It's really a film for the ages. And you know 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:42.360 he obviously, uh well, Saint Thomas Moore is a patron 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:47.040 saint of the Catholic Church and a martyr. And you 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.480 see very clearly why in this film. This his level 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.600 of integrity. And the other thing too, what I like 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:56.240 about the film is that it's not it's not oversimplified 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.400 his moral choices. He does, he does try to get 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.880 out of what he's facing. He tried every possible avenue 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.920 and he but at the end of the day, he 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.920 felt that his soul was worth a lot more to 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.000 him than expedients. He just didn't want to bless essentially, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.360 didn't want to bless the marriage. And it's it's it's 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.400 a monumental film, one of the greatests ever made. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.440 All Right, that's uh, yeah, I like it. I've seen 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.360 it a long time ago now, but it is a 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.160 really good movie. My third pick is is an old 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.400 one of not the same that gave up close to 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.720 it. It is Zulu from nineteen sixty four by side Enfield. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.440 This is a classic. This is. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.240 The I'm now Michael, Sir Michael Kaine's early work is 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.000 and he's a he's the actor and one of the 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.880 actors in it. It is a story of the British 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.360 takeover of South Africa and that will fight with the 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.440 Wulu over the Zulus. And you know it's a good 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.800 movie because when you stream on HBM Max. There's a 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.040 warning disclaimer at the very beginning that says, this is 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.120 not culturally reflective of like the times, like this is 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.880 made in a certain time. When you have to make 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.800 a warning like that, it's offensive because it's of a 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.240 certain time. You know, it's a good movie. It really 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.239 glorifies British colonialism. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.840 And I like it. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.440 The acting is good, it's interesting, it moves, even though 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:16.160 it's a little long. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.240 But it is a great, great. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.960 Film, and I think that it's probably more accurate to 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.200 what happened than a movie that was made. Probably, Now, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.160 what is your third if you haven't seen that, but 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:28.680 you like, make a comment on it, But if you 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.400 haven't seen it, then it's. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.000 A great film. I watched it for the first time 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.400 last year actually, and I thought it was absolutely fantastic, right, 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.320 so great. Yeah, that battle scene at the very end 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.040 is one of the all time great battle scenes in 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:46.000 the history of cinema. It also just looks beautiful, I believe, 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:50.040 if I'm not mistaken that Martin SCORSESEI made a list 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.600 of the most beautiful looking films ever made and he 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:57.240 ranked that very high on it. So, okay, if you like, 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:02.720 if you like seeing beautiful art. That is you. You 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.560 really hit it out of the park with that choice. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.479 So my thing is is a very obvious selection. Yet 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.960 I can't tell you, like, maybe it's just because we're 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.960 getting older and so many years have passed. You and 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.520 I are geriatric millennials. How I encounter people all the 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.240 time now who have not seen this film. I once 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.199 almost fired a client who told me they had not 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.840 seen this movie, And I'm just like, how can you 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.360 understand American culture without having seen this film? And that's 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.480 Francis Ford coppol is the Godfather. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.800 Okay, I mean people of a certain age may not 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.520 have said I was a little older when I saw 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:40.480 The Phone for the first time. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:45.760 Sure, yeah. And so obviously it's not just a gangster film. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.119 And I think Coppola himself intended it almost as a 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.840 critique of American capitalism. In reality, I think it's a 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.920 moral parable. It's almost Shakespearean. It tells, obviously, the story 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:02.320 of a crime family and the moral compromises that they're 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.800 making in the process toward what they believe are good ends, right, Like, Hey, 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.280 we eventually want to get out of this mob business. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.760 We want to go legitimate we want to protect each other. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:18.240 We literally want to protect our children who are being murdered. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:23.160 And it tells the story of how some of those 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.280 compromises it seems small, even if you think that they're 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:30.119 toward good ends, how they can ultimately doom someone and 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.000 then you just can't escape that evil. And then obviously 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.200 in the sequel we see how it could just destroy 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.080 a man from within and I absolutely kill his soul. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.640 To me, it's it's a must watch for anyone left, 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.679 right or center, but especially I think if you're a 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.440 conservative and you want to understand culture, it's an absolute 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.919 must watch. It's maybe it's commonly listed on all of 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.040 these lists of the ten greatest movies ever made, and 0:18:58.160 --> 0:18:58.919 for a good reason. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.720 Yeah, it's one of those movies that if it's on, 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:03.760 if I passed by the television it's on, I will 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.160 stop and watch more than I should, even though I'm 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.959 busy doing something. Whenever I hear Diane Keaton's scream it 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.720 was an abortion, Michael, It's so, I mean, just peak 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.480 greatest And did you see there was an interesting story 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.600 since she died. That was an old interview that they 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.800 didn't want to hire al Pacino for that movie, and 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.920 Diane Keaton was like, I'm not doing about al Pacino, 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.760 and she got him cast them, which is crazy. I 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.200 think anyone besides al Pacino. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.280 Yeah, they were looking at Nicholson originally, which would have 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:32.880 been horrible. 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.640 Okay, My next movie, I think this is number four 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.320 four on the list is it's a recent movie. But 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.359 it's a foreign language film, and I know people are 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.199 like a foreign line. I don't want to read. I 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:47.520 promise you this movie is brilliant. It's called Godzilla Minus one. 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.840 It's in twenty twenty three by Takashami Yamazaki. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:52.919 I think I pronounced that name. 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:54.800 I know I didn't pronounce the name right, but whatever, 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.080 Godzilla minus one. I know you're like, oh, a Godzilla movie. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.639 This is a beautiful post World War two. It's a 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.600 look at post World War two Japan. It is a 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.399 look at a man who was supposed to be a 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.280 Kamakazi pilot and decided not to fly his plane into 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:14.480 a warship, an American warship, and the guilt that comes 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:20.160 from losing a war, and the responsibility towards community, the blame, 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.800 the shame that goes with it, how to rebuild after 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.040 that it is like, if Godzilla was not in this movie, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.280 it would still be a great movie. Godzilla just happens 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:34.240 to be in the movie, and it's I cannot cannot 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.960 recommend this movie enough. It is so, so, so good. 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.040 It was the best movie I saw in twenty twenty 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.920 three by far. So Okay, have you seen it? Yeah, 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:45.119 It's absolutely fantastic. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.560 And what I love about this film is that you 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.320 watch it and you think it's like a two hundred 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.080 million dollar movie. I think they made it with like 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.920 fifteen million bucks or something like that, which in Hollywood 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.439 numbers is pretty small in terms of a budget, and 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.080 it looks for nomenal and like you said, the story, 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.480 there are scenes in it that are almost like Godzilla 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:14.200 as Jaws. Yes, yes, absolutely what I watched it. I'll 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:18.120 tell you a funny story. When my mother in law 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:22.479