1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I am Rashwan McDonald, the host 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start planning their own. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Listen up as I interview entrepreneurs from around the country, 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: talk to celebrities and ask them how they are running 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: their companies, and speak with nod profits who are making 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: a difference in their local communities. Now sit back and 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: listen as we unlock the secrets to their success on 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Hi, I'm Rashaan McDonald, our host 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: is weekly Money Making Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: information that this show provides off for everyone. It's time 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: to stop reading other people's success stories and really start 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: living your own. Next us is the director of Morehouse 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Innovation and Entrepreneurship Center. They are assisting the development of 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: minority entrepreneurship through scholarly research, training and consulting services. Please 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: please walk with the Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Doctor Tiffany Bussy. 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: Are you doing, Doctor Bussy? 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: I am doing Wonderfulora Sean, And first of all, thank 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: you so much for having me. It is indeed a 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: pleasure to be here and congratulations on your show. 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I really appreciate that. Now I 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: gave out a big title here Director of the more House, 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: which is Morehouse College HBCU, one of the big more 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: prominent HBCUs in the country. Director of the Morehouse Innovation 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: and Entrepreneurship CE. What is that? 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: Wow? 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: Yes, it is about bull But we are really really 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: proud of the work we've been doing here at We 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: call it our loving name for it is the MIEC. 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: We've been doing this work for the past twenty years, 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: which is really really just focused on helping businesses, black 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: and brown businesses scale. We believe that our entrepreneurship and 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: small businesses but one of the pathways in closing the 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: racial income inequality GAMP in this country. So that's the 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: work we've been busy doing for the past twenty years, 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: whether it is working with our students right here on 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: campus or working with businesses in the community. We see 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: this work as an important piece in really driving wealth 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: within our community. 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Well, you know, some doctor busy. The stereotypes drive this 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: country and drive the world, really because when they start 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: talking about black businesses, you know what the stereotized do 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: you have to deal with and trying to understand and 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: navigate the world of entrepreneurship people with people who are 45 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: people of color, who are interested in trying to be 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: small business owners. 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: Sure, and so we hear that every day. Right. The 48 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: group of businesses that we work with, and we've learned 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: this as we've pive our work over the like I 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: mentioned twenty years, are really what we call scalable mid 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: size companies. And some may wonder do they really exist, 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: and I would say yes. We've touched over four hundred 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: of these businesses over the past twenty years and have 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: helped them to create over eight hundred and fifty new jobs. 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: Now that's significant. And the work we do is to 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: really help these larger what I would call large primes 57 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: that say they can't find these businesses to be a 58 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: part of their supply chain or their supply and diversity programs, 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: and we help these programs to really grow in scale 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: and to make them accessible to these larger companies. I 61 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: think with you would agree that we've been doing a 62 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: fantastic job because these companies, as they have gone through 63 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: all programs and as we've touched them, have really gained 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 2: over thirty four million in access to new capital, which 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: has been one of the biggest barriers we hear about 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 2: quite a bit and have really helped them to generate 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: over eighty two million in new revenues. Now that's not right. 68 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: You know. 69 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: The thing about it is that, you know, we thought 70 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: all these numbers, we thought about all the success stories, 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: but it also comes back to the opportunity to get 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: the shot at the big prize. Now, this center, how 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: does one you know, how does it? How do you 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: use your the purpose of the center to impact a 75 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: person like me? Say, I'm coming through the door, I'm 76 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: contacting you them, Why am I contacting you? And what 77 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: will you be able to allow assist me in my 78 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: career goals as a small business owner. 79 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: Sure, and thank you for really asking that question, because 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: one of and it's in the design of our programs. 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: We know that basically we have heard about the lack 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: of capital or access to capital. What we don't talk 83 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: about quite as much is access to opportunities, as you 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: have nicely placed it. So in designing our programs, we 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: are attached to what we call opportunity partners, those large 86 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: primes and by the way, we work mostly with companies 87 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: that we call B to B. They're really generating services 88 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: to serve other businesses. That's the business model that we 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: work with. So what does that that look like. We 90 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: work with these large companies such as your large general 91 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: contractors that have huge construction jobs or work and we 92 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: design our programs so that when the companies come in 93 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: and work with us, they're not only getting access to capital, 94 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: but also access to contracts the other see that is 95 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: often not talked about. So it's the intentionality of really 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: creating those opportunities on working side by side with these 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: large firms to ensure that these small businesses such as yourself, 98 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 2: as you through our programs. This is not just technical 99 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: assistant for technical assistant's sake. I like to say, this 100 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: is not about bucks and seats. This is about how 101 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: do you impact and create opportunities to have these companies 102 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: meet and engage with these large primes that have the 103 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: opportunities to learn how to navigate that landscape and to 104 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: make the contracts available for them as they go through 105 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: our programs. We all like to say that we create 106 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: a community. This is not a one off for us. 107 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: So these four hundred businesses that I told you that 108 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: we touch, we are in constant communication with them, sharing 109 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: opportunities and making sure that they leave with not only 110 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: the information, but also how to implement and to be 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: ready to deploy for those contracts and to engage with 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: new revenue. At the end of the day, it's revenue 113 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: that drives and scale businesses. 114 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: You know what frustrates me the most. And now what 115 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: you just said is that the reputation that the black 116 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: community have of not having skilled labor their jobs out there, 117 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: that we are not educated or qualifying for. How are 118 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: you assisting us in tearing down that wall or that 119 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: stereotype that we are not ready and if opportunities presents 120 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: itself to us, we're not qualified. 121 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so one of the things that again is 122 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: the intentionality and understanding where these opportunity it is are. 123 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 2: I will share with you that just as recented today, 124 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: a few hours ago, as a matter of fact, I 125 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: had the opportunity to visit with the good Will industries 126 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: here in Georgia. Goodwill, Yes, good Will, the same one 127 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: that you know of that provides you know, perhaps use 128 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: goods and things like that. Availability. Well, they also do training, 129 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: job readiness training. But the reason I was there. 130 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: Doctor busty, old hodly. You just slid through that real quick. Now, 131 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: I've been passing good Wills all my life, all right, 132 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: I've lived in Houston. Good Will. You go there, you 133 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: get closed that you can't afford. You go there and 134 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: probably get an old chair or old furniture piece and 135 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: you bring it home and hey, you live with it. 136 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: That's what you got, that's what you can afford. Now 137 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: you're telling me that Goodwill has job training that's not 138 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: tied to the in store sales. 139 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: That that's correct. One of the other things that they 140 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: do and I'm out here too. They didn't pay me 141 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: to sell someone theath of Goodwill. But one of the 142 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: other things that they do very well is job training. 143 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: I like I said, I was so impressed. I visited 144 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: one of their newest training job training facility here in Atlanta, Georgia, 145 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: and I must say it was top of the art. 146 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: And what we're looking at is to collaborate with Goodwill 147 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: in terms of its clean tech training jobs. Now, I'm 148 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: gonna break that down a little bit because we talked 149 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: about knowing opportunities and being ready for opportunities, and the 150 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: way you do that is by being ahead of the opportunities, 151 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what we're looking at. What does that 152 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: look like for black and brown businesses to be a 153 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: part of this ten trillion dollar global market in sustainability. 154 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: Now those are some big fancy words, but all it 155 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: means is that we know that global warming is a 156 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: thing and it does exist, and that in order to 157 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: address that, there is a huge industry that is being 158 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: developed and that is about to be launched and is 159 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: already launched because the rest of the world is ahead 160 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: of us on this in terms of what that means 161 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: and how do we create businesses and jobs in that 162 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: particular sector to be an active part and to be 163 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: at the table and not after the fact. And so 164 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: as we have been talking with Goodwill, who is now 165 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: doing this training for those that would like to think 166 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: of new careers and new opportunities, we are engaged in 167 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: helping businesses understand what that market looks like and also 168 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: giving them access to these employed individuals. We often hear 169 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: and we have already talked about this access to financial capital, 170 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: which is usually one of the barriers, the other piece 171 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: that we often don't talk about, and businesses will tell 172 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: you that is a real thing for them. Is access 173 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: to human capital. How do they find the workers? How 174 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: do they find skilled workers to meet the demand that 175 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: they have? And so, not only are we getting ready 176 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: to prepare these businesses to be a part of this 177 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: whole sustainability market, but engaging them and connecting them with goodwill? 178 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: Who is training the employees that become part of that 179 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: work and employable. I'm going to pause it because I 180 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: know I said a lot. 181 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Well, don't pause too long. But I do have a 182 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: question because of the fact that whenever you hear courses 183 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: and all that money, how can I afford this are there? 184 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: You know? Did the word free mean that it's going 185 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: to be something that I can take somewhere with a certificate? 186 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: How do I enable this relationship to benefit me and 187 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: get me out of the indulgence of the lifestyle finances 188 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm living in right now? How does that work? 189 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: Well, Rashan, I don't know if I'm here to bring 190 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: good use all around. But and I don't like to 191 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: use the word three because there's always a cost associating 192 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: to everything. 193 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: But on the point they told you you can't use free, 194 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: because I'm on the website, I see free now see 195 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: see don't tell you, doctor Bussy. I just couldn't believe 196 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: you when you say good Will didn't did more than close. Actually, 197 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: while we talking, I typed in Goodwill training program bad 198 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: No good Will's door popped up. It was about certificates 199 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: and the word free was right there. So I'm verified 200 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: that doctor Bussy is about to tell you guys the 201 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: truth on money making conversations, masterclass, Doctor Bussy, the floor is. 202 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: Yours, and I have a double coupod if you will. 203 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: Not only is the training for and we talked about 204 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: at the employee level. Right, So I'm an individual out 205 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: of a job, looking for a job, looking for reskills. Yes, 206 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: I could go to Goodwill and it's at no cost 207 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: for me. Not only is it at no cost, Goodwill 208 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: in many instances will actually pay you and give you 209 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: a stipend for participating in that causs and the time 210 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: that you're involved with that retraining number one, there are 211 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: many other opportunities on. Like I said, I get no 212 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: compensation from Goodwill to talk about their program, but I 213 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: know it benefits our community and that's why I am 214 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: sharing that. The second piece, however, that I can absolutely 215 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: say with all certainty, if you are a business which 216 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: is the work that we're in in training businesses and 217 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: helping business and soon to stand up a certificate in 218 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: sustainability for these businesses that want to be part of 219 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: this sustainability sector. Our training is also of no cost 220 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: to those companies. We are fortunate and what does that 221 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: look like. We are fortunate to have the support of 222 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: some wonderful philanthropical organizations such as JP Morgan Chase, Wills 223 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: Fargo that pays and provide the resources for us to 224 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: develop these training programs that I've talked about. All the 225 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: programs that I've mentioned in terms of our small Business 226 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: Executive program that I touched over four hundred companies. We 227 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: have a particular program called the Assen National Program, wonderful 228 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: program sponsored by JP Morgan Chase that was the initial 229 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: founder for this. It is a network that brings in 230 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: these small businesses and we really focus on how do 231 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: we scale them so that they may provide those jobs 232 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: for those people that are being trained at Goodwill. You 233 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: see how that works and how that connects and in 234 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: building that ecosystem. That's what we're about, really creating opportunities 235 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: for new jobs, to create pathways in closing this racial 236 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: inequality gap that we have in this country that. 237 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: We always talk about, but we don't ever have a 238 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: plan or see the options. Are you telling me right now? 239 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,239 Speaker 1: Goodwill is offering a plan and options. 240 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: And let's not forget more house because we're on the 241 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: other se also, So Goodwill does the training of the employees. 242 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: We do the training of the companies that can hire 243 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: those employees and come part of the supply chain for 244 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: the larger such as the electrical companies and the other 245 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: huge companies hopefully like Tesla that are building these wonderful 246 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: electrical vehicles, so that we can create that infrastructure to 247 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: provide and support those electrical vehicles. That's one example. There's solar. 248 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: There's also other sustainable efforts within that sector, but I 249 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: just wanted to point those out as examples. 250 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 251 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 252 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 253 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow money Making 254 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 255 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: So let's let's go back four hundred small minority owned 256 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: businesses are positively impacted eight hundred and fifty new jobs, created, 257 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: thirty four million dollars in capital access, and nearly eighty 258 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: two million in revenue growth in the local Atlanta area. 259 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: And that I'm speaking to the director of the Mohouse 260 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Innovation Entrepreneurship Center, doctor Tiffany Bussy, doct Tiffany Bussy. Electric 261 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:36,479 Speaker 1: vehicles dominate the industry best the voice one of my employees. 262 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: He's thinking about getting an electric vehicle. Black people will 263 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: not buying electric vehicle, but that industry is booming because 264 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: you got to have someplace to plug that car up. 265 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: Talk about the EV industry and talk to my listeners. 266 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: They might not be the one, but they might know 267 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: somebody who needs to really clearly understand this pathway to 268 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: success can't be through EV. 269 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: That and I'm happy to talk about EV, which is 270 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: about one hundred and sixty three billion dollar industry. It 271 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: has its what I would call its downside, because there's 272 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: this what they call anxiety about electrical vehicles. And you're right, 273 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: perhaps the lowest segments of those quartering vehicles is perhaps 274 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: in our community, which is why we must intentionally build 275 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: out the infrastructure to address that issue. I know I 276 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: don't have one because I'm going how far can I 277 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: drive before I see the next charging station? 278 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: Right? 279 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: We got to have more of those. But I really 280 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: want to quickly share that the sustainability industry is only 281 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: about one segment with ev There's the Green Bill, which 282 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: is about how do we build our homes? How do 283 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: we make them more efficient? And that's a three hundred 284 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: and twenty four billion dollar industry. So anyone out there 285 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: that's in construction, that's listening to your podcast and your 286 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: many millions of followers, if you're in constructions and you're 287 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: not thinking thinking about how do you build sustainable, don't 288 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: leave that behind because you are going to be left behind. 289 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: We are thinking about how do we do all these 290 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: things in a more sustainable fashion. If you're in agriculture, 291 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: a twenty billion dollar industry, we are thinking about how 292 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: do we grow our products more sustainable and what does 293 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: that look like? Renewable energy again huge nine hundred and 294 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: fifty two billion dollar industry. We are talking about a 295 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: lot of money and a lot of opportunities, which is 296 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: where we started this conversation in terms of how do 297 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: we as we think about business opportunity. Let's not think 298 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: about that starting another nightclub. We don't need that. What 299 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: we need are business within this sector of sustainability in 300 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: these eras that I've just mentioned. That's what we're talking 301 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: about when we're talking about building successful companies. We got 302 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: to think outside the box and our traditional ways of 303 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 2: how we look at businesses. 304 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: We know some I don't even think is outside the box. 305 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: It's just open your eyes. That's what we tend to do. 306 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: We tend to only see what we feel we are 307 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: have access to. And that's what this interview is about, 308 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: is that what you're doing at more House and what 309 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Goodwill is doing is providing access an opportunity. What we 310 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: have to do is not be naysayers and seek and 311 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: jump upon or jump up to the opportunity that's being 312 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: presented yourself. And that's why I keep going back when 313 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you about there's so many people standing 314 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: at the door not going in. Why is that. 315 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: We do the other side of the work we do 316 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: is really about the research about why this is right? 317 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: And I think that number one, as a people, historically 318 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: we have good reasons for that right. We have not 319 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: been treated fairly Historically, we know that if we were 320 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: not entrepreneurial in our very nature. Entrepreneurship is in our DNA, 321 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: we wouldn't be here as a people number one, because 322 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: we survive, right, and that's being entrepreneurial. So I really 323 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: push against when people say that you've got to be 324 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: born and this cannot be taught. We as people have 325 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: all the characteristics I would say of being those calculated 326 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: risk takers. Now we also are I would say, not 327 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: as open to failure because of so many things that 328 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: whatever we do, we have to perform at exceedingly deep 329 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: level for folks to accept us, because there are always 330 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: that level of doubt. There's always that we cannot do it. 331 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: And so one of the things, especially as I work 332 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 2: with my students who are black men at Morehouse, is 333 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 2: truly to break down some of those historical traits that 334 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: we understand that our psychological barriers. Right. I could recall 335 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: when my son was leaving for college and he you know, 336 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: you would think because I teach this, I would certainly 337 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: encourage it. But one of the things I thought about, 338 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: if he comes back to me after four years of 339 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: going to college and perhaps in debt and tell me Mom, 340 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to open that business. I don't know how 341 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: I would react. 342 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: I would go get that job first, pay off that debt, 343 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: and then maybe come back and talk to me about 344 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: a business. Right, So, we as a community are not 345 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: as privileged as perhaps our conterparts, from our Caucasian counterparts, 346 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: able to take those calculated risks that I'm talking about 347 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: that you need to do and to accept the failure. 348 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: The fact is that eighty six percent of our small 349 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: businesses are going to fail within the first three years. 350 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: That's a given, and that is part of the process. 351 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: So we have to have some things on the table 352 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: and be willing to accept that failure as part of 353 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: the process. We're not quite there yet. We have loans 354 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: we got to pay back once we get out of college. 355 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: We have families we have to take care of, and 356 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: so those opportunities and those are real things that we 357 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: must consider. So I would say that, yes, entrepreneurship, but 358 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: we cannot all be on entrepreneurs and let's not romanticize entrepreneurship. 359 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: It's perhaps one of the hardest things that would ever do. 360 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: And you probably can speak to that. 361 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: That's Rob Landford. It's not a forty hour way job. Everybody. 362 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: It's no guarantee your vacation. If you're sick, get up 363 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: and go to work, because sick days don't happen when 364 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: you running your own business. And guess what you can't 365 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: beat You can't let the customers beat you to your business, 366 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. So that means that you have 367 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: to be there, set up and ready to go. Whether 368 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: you running a business or provide product, you have to 369 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: understand that as a small business owner, it is the 370 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: most rewarding for the most fatiguing thing that you can do. 371 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: But when you do it right, ownership and that's what 372 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: we need, ownership. And I want to make that transition 373 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: statement to the Small Business Executive Program and the three 374 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: seeds of the Small Business Executive Program. I wanted to 375 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: ask you about doctor Bussy because of the fact that 376 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: you're throwing theres so much knowledge you know about the 377 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: program that's available at ball House, telling us what good 378 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: will doing not only providing free opportunities for job training, 379 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: but also providing paying you for some opportunities over there. Now, 380 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: we talked about pushing past stereotypes walking through that glass door. 381 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: We are always heard about the glass ceiling, but for minority. 382 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: It's just walking through that door. What is the three 383 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: seeds of the small business Executive program? 384 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: Capital, connections, and contracts. I ensured capital dominates the conversation 385 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: right every time, access to capital, access to hack and 386 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: brown businesses don't have access to capital. I like to say, 387 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: equally as important, again, are those contracts. If you have 388 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: capital and you don't have revenue, and you can't sell 389 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: like you said to your customers, and you don't have customers, 390 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: your business probably will not succeed. In order to get 391 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: those contracts. You might be equally as qualified. What you 392 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: need is the connections. You need to be in the room. 393 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: You need to be in front of the folks that 394 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: have the decision power in making those contracts available. And 395 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: so we like to see our three seeds capital, connections 396 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: and contracts. 397 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this doct about will connections 398 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: carry the same value as relationships? 399 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: It is exactly the same thing. 400 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Okay, cool? 401 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: Well, relationships you might say. I might say I know 402 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: no Rashan, but does Rashan know me? So that's the difference. Right, 403 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: So that network has to be a two way thing. 404 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 2: You need to know about me and my capabilities, and 405 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: I need to know about you and what you offer. 406 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: Many times, what we hear from the large primes that 407 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: have all these contracts is that we think that a 408 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: one size fits all and we think that by saying 409 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: I do information technology and you need to do business 410 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: with me. Well, that's not the way it works. You 411 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: need to find out what the problem that that potential 412 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: customer has and be able to offer a solution. People 413 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: don't buy products and services for the heck of products 414 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: and services. They buy solutions. So when we start understanding, 415 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: and that's the way we teach and the way that 416 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: we do our technical assistance is really about falling in 417 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: love with that problem that you think you're solving. Because 418 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: if you approach a customer or a potential customer and see, 419 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: this is how I can help you and help you 420 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: solve your problem, more than likely you will get that business. 421 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: As opposed to you going and say this is what 422 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: I sell and this is the price, and you don't 423 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: make that value proposition very clear to that potential customer, 424 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: you probably won't get that new customer. 425 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Wow, I tell you. Her name is doctor Tiffany Bussy, Chief, 426 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: the director of the Morehouse Innovation and Entrepreneurship Center. I 427 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: don't know what you expected when you came on my 428 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: show or got invited to come on the show, Doctor Bussey, 429 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: but the information you've given me is it's going to 430 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: change people's lives. It's going to give them an opportunity 431 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: to see life a little bit different and also value information. 432 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: And that's what this show is about, giving information that 433 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: can change their lives. In closing, you want to wrap 434 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: up with any thoughts or any information that we may 435 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: have missed that you want to tell about what you're 436 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: doing over that more House. 437 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: So, first of all, Rashan, what you're doing is invaluable. 438 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: I think, so really kudos to you and your show. 439 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: I think one of the most important things is sharing 440 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: of information. So many times I hear we have no idea, 441 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: we didn't know this was happening, and that is happening. 442 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: So there cannot be anything as too much information. So 443 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 2: please continue doing what you're doing, and I hope that 444 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: you will have me back in sharing this. But I 445 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: want to share also that folks that would love to 446 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: know more about our programs, and again being in mind 447 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: that we serve what we call mids scaled up companies, 448 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: right looking to go to the next level, really helping 449 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: to have these businesses grow perhaps three to five years 450 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: in business, looking to scale from about two million in 451 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: revenues to get them to five and twenty five million. 452 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: Our information can be found at the MCE Center that's 453 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: m C E C E N T e R dot com, 454 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: or off the Morehouse College website which is Morehousecollege dot edu. 455 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 2: I would also say that one of the things that 456 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: we have is part of our organizational structure is the 457 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: Small Business Development Center at Morehouse. That center provides services, 458 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: again to small businesses looking to scale and grow through 459 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: our partnership. We may be a touchpoint through our small 460 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 2: business executive programs, but we then hand off to that 461 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: Small Business Development Center and they stay with you through 462 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: the life of your company. So it is about building 463 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: community and really making sure that you sustain and grow 464 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: as your company really exists until you're ready to perhaps 465 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: exit or sell that company. 466 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: Wow, you're fantastic. Let me just say that, honestly, you're fantastic. 467 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: And the fact that I've allowed to interview you on 468 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: my show Money Making Conversations Master Class, let me know 469 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I've got this platform, this podcast hitting in the right 470 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: direction again. You will be coming back on my show because, 471 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: like I said, you shut it down with the good 472 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: Will shower because I didn't know Goodwill did that. So 473 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: I know you got a lot more information you're gonna 474 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: pick back up and tell me about in three months. 475 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: So every three months, let's come back on this show 476 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: and shock the world. You over the more House, Okay, 477 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: thank you, associate you you stay in touch with me 478 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: over here. Money Making Conversations Master Class again Doctor Tiffany 479 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: Bussey over the more House doing her thing. See you 480 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: next with y'all. Bye bye. 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