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Speaker 2: It's just so invigorated, it really is.

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Speaker 1: It makes me so happy, and like I'm literally only

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Speaker 3: I read up that you liked to like completely get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was the twenty twenty three season. I deleted

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Speaker 1: It was honestly refreshing. You see a lot of negative,

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Speaker 3: I appreciated what you said before about really wanting to

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Speaker 2: Part of your draft day story.

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Speaker 3: I love talk a little bit about this because here

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Speaker 3: Tell me about the vibe surrounding that day where your

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Speaker 1: We had all decided we were going to pack nice

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Speaker 1: like you should go walk up on the stage, and

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00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: like every mock draft I had seen, it was like

440
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: late third round, and so I was like, no, I'm

441
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: not doing the pity walk across the stage, like that's

442
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: so embarrassing, which in reality, like I would have told

443
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: anybody else to do that, that's so cool, but like

444
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: for me, I was like, uh no, you know, we

445
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: actually rode the subway to the draft, so like I

446
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: rode the subway in New York City to the draft,

447
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: was with Jada and Gabby and middle of the second round,

448
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, there's a camera on me like pick like

449
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: teen or sixteen, and I'm like, oh my god, Like

450
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: am I about to get picked? Somebody had just come

451
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: over and was like you need to move to the

452
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: outside right now, and I was like what is happening?

453
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: And like Gabby and Jada are already crying and they're like,

454
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like I stopped. So I had just

455
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: texted my family and said, hey, I think I'm about

456
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: to get drafted, and they were having a watch party

457
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: at my cousin's house. And so then pick eighteen came

458
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: and the camera's right in front of my face, and

459
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: that's why. I Like, everybody's like, you didn't look surprised.

460
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's hard to look surprised when there's

461
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: a camera five feet in front of your face. So yeah,

462
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: but that was a dream come true. And I just

463
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: feel really grateful for Vegas and coach Hammond for giving

464
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: me that opportunity. And yeah, it's cool what's changed in

465
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: two years, But excited for the rest of my career.

466
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: What's changed in two years, Kate? Besides obviously geography.

467
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Geography for sure, I feel like, you know, really learning

468
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: from the vets that I was around, like how you

469
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: approach workouts, you know, the mental side to it. I

470
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: feel like, really this year I've been more focused on

471
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: like my recovery and how I fuel my body, just

472
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: figuring out like what works for me, what makes my

473
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: body feel the best, what makes me feel ready to

474
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: perform at the highest level that I can. And so

475
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm still figuring that out and just learning and growing

476
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: on that has been like a big journey the last

477
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: couple of years being in the league.

478
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so admirable and obviously so many tools

479
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: in the toolbox. If you have to highlight a few

480
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: things that are kind of non negotiables for you. Right now,

481
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: when you think about wellness routine, how you take care

482
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: of you, what comes to mine.

483
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely say fueling my body, whether it

484
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: comes to food or hydration. I am a very simple girl.

485
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: I just eat the same foods every single day. I

486
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: do not straight away. I know what I like and

487
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: that's okay with me. So I just always have eggs

488
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: and rice in the morning. During my workout, I have

489
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 1: a drip drop and water every single day. And for lunch,

490
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: I'll eat whatever is provided, typically a chicken breast or

491
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: like a Caesar salad, you know, like a salad with chicken.

492
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: And then for dinner I make chicken, rice and broccoli

493
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: pretty much every night every night. It's a chef right though.

494
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: I but seriously, I have been trying not to eat

495
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: out as much and that has made like a huge difference.

496
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: I used to to just order food all the time,

497
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: but really like focusing on my hydration drip drop has

498
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: really benefited me making sure I'm good during my workouts

499
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: and afterwards. And then yeah, just honestly, if people could

500
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: cut out eating out, and it's also so expensive in

501
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco, not to knock but boy, I have been

502
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: saving some money.

503
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: Wait, do you have a favorite San Francisco rac I mean,

504
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I want to ask you this

505
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: is I want your rack, but I don't know if

506
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: I want like the world to show up at your restaurant.

507
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: But can you tell us what the what the spot is?

508
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm obsessed with Bluestone Cafe just at Okay. Yeah,

509
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: it's just a little cafe. I love the breakfast. I

510
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: haven't even been since I've been back in San Francisco

511
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: because I literally used to go every single day, and

512
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: I swear it it did not help me in the

513
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: fitness category.

514
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: It ain't it.

515
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: It ain't it.

516
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 3: It's so good though, it's so good when you reflect

517
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: on the last two years. We're talking about, you know,

518
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: different wellness habits that help you feel your best. But

519
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: what would you say the most difficult part has been

520
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: for you in your last two years in the league.

521
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say like the time management and not

522
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: like maybe like preparing meals beforehand or you know, just

523
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: doing something that's convenient and so just like eat going

524
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: and like picking up food. You know that might not

525
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: always be like it's not always necessarily unhealthy, but still

526
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: eating you know, clean foods at home is definitely more

527
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: beneficial for me. So that has been something that I

528
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: have definitely had to you know, hone in on. And

529
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: then recovery is something that's just huge that the WNBA,

530
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: like our teams, our team here with the Valkyries, really

531
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: really emphasizes, and so just figuring out like what recovery

532
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: methods like I really like I love the cold tub,

533
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, all sauna, But like, mobility has been huge

534
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: for me, just trying to really work on my hit mobility.

535
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, just like it's just kind of

536
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: like the segue to like all of my like, if

537
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm having me pains, it's probably because my you know,

538
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: quads are super duper tight. And so that has been

539
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: really big for me because I used to just be

540
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna warm up, I'll just go out there,

541
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. But that is not how it works anymore.

542
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: And so I would definitely say that's a big thing

543
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: that I've had to focus on.

544
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: I hear that.

545
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in my thirties, and it's a lot

546
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: different as you get older, for sure, just by being

547
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: a professional athlete over here. I know that you yourself

548
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: are also super familiar with injury. It's something that you

549
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: really navigated pretty gnarly stuff in college.

550
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: Talk to me about how.

551
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: Those difficult moments having to take a backseat to doing

552
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: what you love have helped you have more appreciation for

553
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 3: what you get to do today.

554
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely say it was like the best

555
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: that's happened to me. Humbled me a lot. When you

556
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: go through injury, you have to set out take a

557
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: backseat to what you love. It first of all, teaches

558
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: you empathy for your teammates who have ever gone through that.

559
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: Teaches you, you know, how to support any of your

560
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: teammates if they ever go through that, which you never

561
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: ever would wish that upon anybody. But it really taught

562
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: me how to be a good teammate first and to

563
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: cheer for others. I think, you know, coming out of

564
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: high school going into college, you kind of think you're,

565
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, the top dog, you were the best in

566
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: high school, and then you go to college and it's

567
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: like I went through that injury and I really got

568
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: to watch the older players in front of me and

569
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: see how they spoke to their teammates. And then like

570
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I've really just took that mindset of being super positive,

571
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: cheering everybody else on being the number one cheerleader, and

572
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: then it just kind of stuck with me because, Yeah,

573
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: I just realized, Like when I was cheering for one

574
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: of my teammates and I just kept telling her she

575
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: was the best at this specific thing. And I remember

576
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: she was a senior, I was a freshman. She came

577
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: up to me one time and just told me like, hey,

578
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: like I really appreciate that, Like it makes me feel

579
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: really good, you know, and like she didn't have to

580
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: say that, and I didn't even realize I was doing it.

581
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: And then I just, you know, same thing for me,

582
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: like when I'm feeling like confident, you know, I'm gonna

583
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: give my best effort and I'm going to play probably

584
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: my best and so really embracing that and continuing that.

585
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I've learned from going through injuries,

586
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: how to be a cheerleader before anything else.

587
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, tearing your acl and lateralminiscus isn't an

588
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: easy thing to go through. It is so refreshing and

589
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: really beautiful to hear your takeaways from that because so

590
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: many people could go through a moment like that and

591
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: really fall into that victim mindset. Would you say that

592
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: there were points where you experienced the vicar the mindset

593
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: and if so, how are you able to pull yourself

594
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: out of that?

595
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, definitely. I mean I think going through injury,

596
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: there's gonna be highs and lows. There's gonna be plateaus,

597
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: like you're going to go through a range of emotions,

598
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: and just like knowing that it's just one day at

599
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: a time, you know, you have to really just focus

600
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: on the journey and the process over the results right away,

601
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: because it is just a journey. And like it took

602
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: me probably a full two years to even feel mentally

603
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: like healthy and to mentally come back from that getting

604
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: knocked down a few times in a few games and

605
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: realizing like, oh I got back up and my knee

606
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: is fine. You know. So that's a side that people

607
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: might not talk about as much, is the mental comeback

608
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: from that. And yeah, so I would say if anybody's

609
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: going through injury, like stick with it, you know, find

610
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: the positives and every single day and if you have

611
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: a bad day, that's okay too, because you're gonna have

612
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: bad days. And if you plateau for a little bit.

613
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: That's all right, because you're going to eventually, you know,

614
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: start trending upwards if you he continued to do the

615
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: right things and take care of your body. And you know,

616
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: I've seen so many teammates unfortunately go through injury and

617
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: it's it's not all sunshine and rainbows. You know, there's

618
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna be hard days, especially whenever you can't play the

619
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: game that you love. Like that's hard in itself. So yeah,

620
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: I would definitely say just got through it with a

621
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: lot of support as well.

622
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: This circles me back to this concept of playing more

623
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: regularly in the WANBA because although not injury like you

624
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: do then experience more loss. Right, how did you learn

625
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: how to deal with losing more as a professional?

626
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

627
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: I remember in Vegas last year and we had lost

628
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: a few games, and like people were so positive, and

629
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, I like talk to one

630
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: of my teammates I can't remember who, and she's like,

631
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: it's a long season. We play tomorrow and I was like,

632
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah, She's like, you got to move on. And

633
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: I think, just like with that busy schedule, you cannot

634
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: linger in the past. You know, you have to have

635
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: that goldfish mentality, you know, short term, because you might

636
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: play the next day or you're gonna have practice tomorrow,

637
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: and so you cannot dwell on the past, and you

638
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: really just got to keep pushing and looking forward.

639
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: Looking forward.

640
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: You've also, in addition to being the glue back in college,

641
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: you've been called an underdog.

642
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: What do you think about that, Kate?

643
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it like it is what it is,

644
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: Like I.

645
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: How you really feel?

646
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: No, I like it doesn't. It does not bother me

647
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I guess I would rather just like,

648
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: if people are going to call me an underdog, then

649
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: I'll just exceed people's expectations, you know, when I do

650
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: something well. So I think I've won and done a

651
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: lot of great things at every single level. You know,

652
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: I am, you know, kind of an underdog. Like people

653
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: have always looked past me, looked over me my whole life.

654
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: And that's fine with me because people's opinions don't bother

655
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: me and it's not going to change who I am,

656
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: And so it is what it is.

657
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: What do you want people to see when they look

658
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: at you?

659
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great question. Really, Like obviously

660
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: I want people to see a good basketball player. Like

661
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: that's like, I am a basketball player. That's my profession.

662
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: That's what like I've like, you know, always love basketball,

663
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: and like I will continue to love basketball. Like I

664
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: want people to be like dang, like she can play,

665
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, but I also want people to see like

666
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: a good person who cares about her teammates and who

667
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: is a lot more than just a basketball player.

668
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

669
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: I mean I usually hold this specific question for the end,

670
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 3: but I'm going to loop it in here. So many

671
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: people do look at you on social something like over

672
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand followers keeping up with you, seeing this

673
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: player for the Valkyries. But when you look in the mirror, key,

674
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: what is it that you see looking back at you?

675
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see a sister, I see a daughter, I

676
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: see a friend, a teammate, I see an aunt. You know,

677
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: I have a lot of amazing things in my life,

678
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: but I also see a basketball player. You know, Like

679
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: basketball isn't my identity, but like it is a lot

680
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: of who I am, and basketball has taught me so

681
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: many amazing things. And so you know, I can't sit

682
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: here and be like, oh, I'm so much more than

683
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: a basketball player. I know I am, but like at

684
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: the same time, like this is like all I've ever wanted.

685
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: I care about how well I play, I care about

686
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: being good, and like these things are important to me,

687
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: and that's just how it is, and that's how it

688
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: always will be for the rest of my life. Yeah,

689
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: And I just want to be the best in every

690
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: single category that I can be. I want to be

691
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: a great sister, I want to be a great daughter,

692
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: I want to be a great friend, teammate, I want

693
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: to be a great basketball player. And so putting myself

694
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: in the positions to help me grow and continue to

695
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: be great in all of those areas is, you know,

696
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of my goals always, And that's what I see

697
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: when I look in the mirror, and that's okay with me.

698
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: You know.

699
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: You say that you're hard on yourself Gate for sure.

700
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I would be here if I wasn't.

701
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd be in this position if I wasn't.

702
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: And I think there's definitely a balance that I'm still

703
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: figuring out. But like a lot of professional athletes are

704
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: hard on themselves. And if you're just like, oh, it's okay,

705
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: I just went oh for nine, Like, I don't think

706
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: you'd be a professional athlete, you know.

707
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean again, not a professional athlete in

708
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: any sense of the word over here. But recently I

709
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: ran a marathon and I didn't run it as fast

710
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: as I want to, Thank you. I didn't run it

711
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 3: as fast as I wanted to, despite like it being

712
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: a major accomplishment, and it took me a few days.

713
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: But then I was able to like zoom out and

714
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: be like, Yo, this is pretty dope, right, And so

715
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: for you, coming from someone who else can clearly be

716
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: quite hard on herself, does anything come to mind when

717
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: I ask you, like, when was the last time that

718
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: maybe you realized after a little while that you were

719
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: a little too hard on yourself?

720
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: I mean this week? Yeah, yeah, like pretty much every day,

721
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: every day, you know, I guess, like even like the

722
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: national championship, Like we would have loved to have won

723
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: one of the national championships, But then like when we

724
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: zoom out and look at the big picture of all

725
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: of the lives we've touched, all of the you know,

726
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: cool things we got to experience with that, I think,

727
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, second place was a pretty great accomplishment for us,

728
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: even though we would have loved to have been number one.

729
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: But even for example, like this week, just like first

730
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: week back working in San Francisco, and I've like, you know,

731
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: been working really hard while I'm home, and I've just

732
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: been shooting terribly and I'm just like, gosh, you know,

733
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: being negative. And then I told my teammates who are here,

734
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, tomorrow today which is today. Now,

735
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to be super positive and I'm

736
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: not going to say anything bad, you know, And I

737
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: was a little bit better, so it's progress. And then

738
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: I think about it at night and like, what, what

739
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: is that really benefiting? It's not benefiting anything, So that's

740
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: it's silly. And I wouldn't want my teammates to talk

741
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: to themselves like that. So it's always it's always funny

742
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: when you like zoom out and think like would I

743
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: ever talk to my teammates the way I talk to myself?

744
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. So what's what's the point.

745
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: So give me an example of like what the negative

746
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 3: language could look like.

747
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I'm so scared to put this on display.

748
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I can't really probably say everything that I think.

749
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: They're so swearing in here.

750
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just like, what are you doing like, you know,

751
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: doubting like that I'm even good enough to be in

752
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: the WNBA, things like that, Like that's so silly, all

753
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: because I missed four shots in a row. Like that's

754
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: just when you zoom out of it, you're like, oh wow,

755
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: that is very dramatic. That's what I think of myself.

756
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: Something I do when I am going through moments where

757
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 3: I feel as though I'm missing all of the shots right,

758
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: is that I'll sit down and all write out a

759
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: ton of I AM statements that affirm me in like

760
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 3: what I know to be true.

761
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: So if we're.

762
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: Talking about like being a podcaster, I am someone that

763
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: has good conversations. I am someone who has a top

764
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: one hundred health in well on this podcast. I am

765
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: someone that has been a journalist for almost two decades. Like,

766
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: there are things that I can say out loud that

767
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: affirm me and remind me who the hell I am.

768
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: So right now, if I was to ask you to

769
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: tell me some I AM statements about who you are

770
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: as a basketball player.

771
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: What would you say?

772
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I just want you to know this

773
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: is like my worst nightmare.

774
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: Oh God, Like I've just talked about my feelings and like.

775
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: Counseling. I'm in therapy. You Oh gosh, Okay, here we go.

776
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: I'll say a couple I am a smart basketball player.

777
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: I am good at making the right reads on the

778
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: basketball court. I am a hard worker, and I am

779
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: a person who really cares.

780
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hyped out because it's true. And then maybe

781
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: tomorrow when you go back into it and you were

782
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: a little bit better today, you're going to be shooting

783
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: tomorrow and you're like, I am someone that makes really

784
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 3: good reads.

785
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: Come on, let's go nothing about it for sure.

786
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about Unrivaled.

787
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: It's kind of like what we were talking about, how

788
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: you went through such an interesting time period in college

789
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: pre COVID, post COVID, COVID, pre nil, post nil. Now

790
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: with Unrivaled and not just having the WNBA women's basketball

791
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: and women's sports as a whole is getting so much

792
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: more attention and eyes.

793
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: How has Unrivaled been good for you? And what are

794
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: you looking forward to in the next year.

795
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say in my family jokes too, like

796
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm like the luckiest personal live I just was born

797
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: at the perfect time. Like I just cannot believe it

798
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: because I am a home body, and so being able

799
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: to stay in the States and continue to play and

800
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: get better is something that is just amazing and I'm

801
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: so grateful for because it's just another cool place for

802
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: my family to be able to come visit, which they love.

803
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: And I'm grateful that I have a family who wants

804
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: to come visit me and see me and all these

805
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: cool things that I get to do, and so that

806
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: right there, being able to stay in the States is huge.

807
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: But then just like working on a different aspect of

808
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: my game, like the three on three styles, a lot

809
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: of one on one defense and there's not a lot

810
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: of help side. You can't really hide your errors in

811
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: three on three, and also a lot of offensively, like

812
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of ball screen reads, and working on my

813
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: ball handling is something that I've just really always wanted

814
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: to need it to get better at and continuing to

815
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: get better at, and so three on three is a

816
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: lot of that, and so and it's a lot of

817
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: ballscreen defense on the other end, and that's like something

818
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: I can always and everyone, well, there's a lot of

819
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: great defenders, but I can always get better at and

820
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: so just it's really benefit of my game, and I'm

821
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: excited for another year of that. And it's also nice

822
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: to kind of get out of the five on five

823
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: format and just like play something different. You know, sometimes

824
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: if you're playing for twelve months of the year, like

825
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: you can get burnt out a little bit, and so

826
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: it's fun to have a little different variation of basketball

827
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: while continuing to get better a.

828
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 2: Little different variation.

829
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: I love the way that you talk about like working

830
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: on your skills as an opportunity. I love the way

831
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: you talk about your family, and I also know that

832
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: you're very passionate about the opportunity to give back, which

833
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: goes hand in hand with you being a part of

834
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: athletics Power of She collective.

835
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: Where were you when you.

836
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: Got the call that this was something that could happen

837
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: for you And how did it make you feel?

838
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: It made me feel amazing. First of all, I just

839
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: align with their brand and what they stand for so much,

840
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: and I feel grateful that I've gotten the opportunity to

841
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: work with them, because you know, not a lot of

842
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: people get that opportunity. And then for a brand to

843
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: really just like uplift women and have the power of She,

844
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, and be represented by so many great women.

845
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: Simone Biles Lexihole, Katie Ledecki, you know, and the list

846
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: goes on and on, and so I think that's just

847
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: something super cool where I, you know, get a lot

848
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: of benefits working with Athleta, but also it's like I

849
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: am not just saying yes to something just because I

850
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: think it's cool, but it's like, oh, I really align

851
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: with everything that they believe in, and like it really

852
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: reflects like how I feel as well. And so that's

853
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: that's something super cool. And I remember when, you know,

854
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: my agent said this and I was like, oh my god,

855
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: like this is really cool. Like I had to act

856
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: like like I wasn't too excited, you know, keep them

857
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: on their toes a little. But it's just been a

858
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: really great partnership and the fact that they're based here

859
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: in San Francisco too. Literally the Athletic store is a

860
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: couple of blocks away from me, and so I hop

861
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: in there and talk to them quite often or get

862
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: me clothes and yeah, so it's really special.

863
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 3: It's really cool because I think there's no two ways

864
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: about it, Like you're obviously a girls girl, and so

865
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: to be someone that's so supportive of other people, it

866
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: like it it makes so much sense, which I don't

867
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: feel like you get to say very often when we

868
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: think about you know, like different partnerships and different opportunities.

869
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I love that. It's like a you know,

870
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: like Athleta isn't a huge, huge brand, like we're we're

871
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: going that way, you know. But it's also like it

872
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: makes it feel so like special and you know, and

873
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: it's not just something like I'm just saying yes to

874
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: this because i think it's just gonna be cool and

875
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: I'll get like free stuff or whatever. It's like no,

876
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: like they really like talk the talk and walk the walk,

877
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: like they really invest in women and they give back

878
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: to the community, and that's something that is really really special.

879
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: What are you looking forward to you now, Kate?

880
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: What am I looking forward to now? In life? In basketball?

881
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: Whatever you want, my girl, the world is your oyster.

882
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: The world is my oyster. That's what I'm looking forward to.

883
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm really looking forward to this upcoming unrivaled season,

884
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, being able to just continue working on the

885
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: skills that I've been working on this off season. Really

886
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: looking forward to next year's WNBA season, interested to see

887
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. It's going to be a really

888
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: interesting off season in the WNBA, and I'm looking forward

889
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: to spending the holidays with my family, and I love

890
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: any time with my nephews, And you know, those are

891
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: moments that I really cherish during my off season because

892
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: when I'm in the WNBA season, I don't get to

893
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: come home and unrivaled. I won't be able to either.

894
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: So looking forward just to quality time with the people

895
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: I love and care about and looking forward to playing basketball.

896
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: That's you know, I actually couldn't have scripted this up

897
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: any better myself, you know, any better myself. This is

898
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: just you know, I really am living out my dream.

899
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: It's so awesome for someone that hears this from you,

900
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: that has a dream that they're aspiring to. Obviously, hard

901
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 3: work is a big piece to the puzzle. But when

902
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: you think about offering advice to someone that wants to

903
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: chase one of theirs, whether it is athletically related or not,

904
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: what comes to mind for you?

905
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: Kate?

906
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: Don't doubt yourself? Why not? You? You know it? Really,

907
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: if you put your mind to anything like you can,

908
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: you can go get it. Find people around you that

909
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: have the same vision as you. Don't be hanging around

910
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: a crowd that doesn't you know, align with you morally

911
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: or have the same goals and vision that you do,

912
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 1: because you know, you really are who you surround yourself with.

913
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: And so I think surrounding yourself with people who are

914
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: like minded, who are driven, who have goals, I think

915
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: that's super important and something I've always done my whole life,

916
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: and it makes a difference. And so if you're around

917
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: the wrong crowd, they'll only bring you down. And so

918
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: I think that's something that is really huge whenever you're

919
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: trying to reach goals.

920
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: When you got immersed into the WNBA, you obviously had

921
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: the opportunity to play alongside some of the best to

922
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 3: ever do it. Was there any bit of starstruckness with

923
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: that playing with the people that you looked up to

924
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: since you were young in the game yourself?

925
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: For sure, it's like impossible not to like let that

926
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: hit you. It's like a pinch me moment.

927
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean, like going on Supbirds podcast.

928
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: I know it, it really is. It really is crazy.

929
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: I've yeah, Like I said, my family always jokes that

930
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: I was just born at the perfect time. I've just

931
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: gotten to meet some really cool people and have gotten

932
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: to do some really really cool things. And I am

933
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: forever grateful for basketball for taking me to the most

934
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: amazing places and meeting some amazing people. But yeah, like

935
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: I've gotten to play with some of the best in

936
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: the world, and I've gotten you know, coached by some

937
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: of the best in the world, and I feel very

938
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: grateful for that. I've learned a lot, and I you know,

939
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: I just want to, you know, hopefully one day, you know,

940
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: when I'm old and retiring, somebody's like, man, I got

941
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: to play with Kate Martin. You know, that would be

942
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: cool to me, you know, so I kind of hope

943
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: that's what you know, will happen in like twenty years.

944
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: We just got to keep working on flipping that negative

945
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: self top. Yeah, you're gonna be in it for the

946
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: long game.

947
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: Let's go.

948
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: Well, I'm so happy that we were able to sit

949
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: down today before I let you go. Right now, Kate,

950
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice.

951
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: Let's go back to that Hurtle moment when you were

952
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: working through all of the mental difficulties that went hand

953
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: in hand with those rough injuries back in college.

954
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: Right now, knowing what you know now.

955
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: What advice would you give to your younger self during

956
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 3: that hurdle moment.

957
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: Man, Honestly, I don't think I would change anything. I would.

958
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: My only advice is just saying positive, you know, leaning

959
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: on the people that you know are around you and

960
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: care about you. And I'm just going to keep it

961
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: at that because really, like, I would not change a

962
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: single thing of how I handled any of that, because

963
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: it's just kind of made me into who I am today.

964
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: So stay positive, stay the course, and lean on the

965
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: people around you.

966
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: Lean on the people around you, keep Martin so happy

967
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: we were able to do this. For those that aren't

968
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 3: following along with you just yet, give me the info.

969
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: Where can they find you online? How they keep up

970
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: with you?

971
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: What's up?

972
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh god, social media?

973
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: I guess you're like, I have to send them to

974
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: my Instagram.

975
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: Instagram, TikTok, yeah, all the goodness.

976
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there, I guess I'm over at Emily Body

977
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: at Hurdle Podcast, Another hurdle conquered.

978
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time,