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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty, right there. Rights slam on the ground

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Speaker 2: by fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into

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Speaker 2: the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: All right. So apparently one of us is unclear on

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Speaker 2: the concept of the bye week. You're supposed to come out,

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Speaker 2: you know, refreshed, reset, reboot, you know, rejuvenated. You know

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to come out you know, physically, mentally, emotionally

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Speaker 2: improved and based on this voice right now. Apparently my

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Speaker 2: voice missed the memo. So we're going to slug this.

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Speaker 2: So this might be the best edition of Cardinals Underground

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Speaker 2: ever as far as Darren Urban and Danny Surrek are concerned,

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Speaker 2: because Polly podcast is Illin and Ailen a little bit

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Speaker 2: over here with the voice, So you know what, I

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Speaker 2: might just offer to you guys more than ever. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there might be more airtime for you guys, more mic

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Speaker 2: time than any other edition of Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 3: For those that.

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Speaker 5: Aren't watching on YouTube and are simply listening, I'm sure

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Speaker 5: they're very confused at whose voice that was. I just

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Speaker 2: So in my advanced age, I said, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to start smoking three packs a day. So

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Speaker 2: that's what happened. That's what's going on over here.

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Speaker 3: I just decided, you know, I really the recommended amount.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I figure at this point in my life,

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Speaker 2: an opportune moment Like this voice.

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Speaker 5: It's like the episode of Friends where Phoebe gets sick

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Speaker 5: she tries to go find like dirty tissues to stay sick.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I miss that one.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, first, you're years too late.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna give.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna give Paul the heb GB's because he's gonna

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Speaker 4: wipe down you know, a general microphone dirty tissues.

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Speaker 2: Let's not Yeah, now I'm really distracted.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think if you just went down, like

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Speaker 2: Like it's yeah, if I start yelling for the next day,

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Speaker 2: So let's see what's worse my voice? The Dallas defense

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Speaker 2: or there was. There was a nickname of a dog

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Speaker 3: It's not that bad.

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Speaker 4: This is a great question for somebody who owns a

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Speaker 4: Okay, but like someday, Danny, you want to talk.

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Speaker 2: When we did two minutes on dog names, Actually it

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Speaker 2: off the bye. I presume okay, Uh, let's just cut

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Speaker 2: But you know what in the absence of information, he

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Speaker 2: of a sudden you're talking about it on Cardinal's Underground.

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Speaker 3: It's for people who don't want to follow.

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Speaker 5: Specific teams other than their own in whichever sport they

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Speaker 4: I am fascinated for this game this week Monday night,

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be about ten storylines you can look at

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Speaker 2: They live by the forty burger, died by the forty

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Speaker 2: So it's not going to be boring. Put it that way.

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Speaker 2: Just not in that building. Kyler going back. He's been

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Speaker 2: That is the big picture point I'll make because for

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm gonna even when they're covered, they're open,

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Speaker 5: Explosive Quarterback play is a difference maker. It's very hard

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Speaker 5: They have really strong depth of that position, whether it's Kyler, Murray,

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Speaker 5: They've shown that they can still put points on the board,

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Speaker 4: That's where the spotlight's going to be. The wide receiver

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Speaker 5: Popped that day, Antoine Wesley Baby two touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: We know Kyler can find receivers even if there are

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Speaker 5: Remembering, didn't running back you know Benjamin he had a

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Ward had like the helmet trap yeah, faint. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That was a big win because they were not winning

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Speaker 4: But that's another here in Northern they won in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: Kyler was a quarterback. That's kind of the point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what else? What else is coming in Dallas? What

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I don't know about the necessarily the

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Speaker 4: You know, if they somehow lose to the Cardinals at home, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was there for many of Jason Garrett's

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Speaker 4: I mean I just think, I just think considering I

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Speaker 4: But the other thing I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: Is you've been doing this for right, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that a good thing that I still have? Like

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Speaker 3: Not just the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 3: Keep him out of the end zone.

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Speaker 5: You can't let him get close enough for him to.

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Speaker 2: Bring it on, by the way, Big three ascardinals dot

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Speaker 2: This week mine is going to be sack Dak. That's

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Speaker 4: you know, again it's I keep thinking of the complimentary

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Speaker 4: football even earlier when when you guys were talking about

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter defense. Hey, if you know, making sure

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Speaker 4: you get an extra touchdown in that fourth quarter probably

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Speaker 4: helps some stuff too.

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Speaker 5: I would expect Nolan to play this week because the

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Speaker 5: team opened up his twenty one day practice window before

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Speaker 5: the Packers game, and they were on a bye week

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Speaker 5: all week, and the team's not going to open up

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Speaker 5: that twenty one day window where you have to make

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Speaker 5: a decision to sign with the active roster or sit

447
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Speaker 5: him for the rest of the year if you don't

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Speaker 5: think by the end of those twenty one days player

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Speaker 5: will be ready to play.

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Speaker 3: So, given out Nolan.

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Speaker 5: Is almost two weeks into that twenty one day window,

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Speaker 5: you would expect that this was the plan for him

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Speaker 5: to be ready to go against the Cowboys. He's only

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Speaker 5: been in Pats two three practices at this point since

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Speaker 5: being in college at Mississippi, So I would expect Nolan

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Speaker 5: to be on a sort of pitch count. Now, this

457
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Speaker 5: was a discussion Darren and I were having off air

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Speaker 5: of Okay, well, what is maybe a twenty snap pitch

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Speaker 5: count look like? When is that really a pitch count?

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Speaker 5: Because they use such heavy rotation, right, there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of d linemen who are in that range. I think

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Speaker 5: it's going to be twofold. It's not just going to

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Speaker 5: be a pitch count. I would expect to see Nolan

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Speaker 5: on a lot of obvious passing situations. That's where he

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Speaker 5: really shines. He's got that speed, he's got that twitch,

466
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Speaker 5: he can get into the backfield as he gets warm.

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Speaker 5: If there's gonna be any sort of quote unquote pitch count,

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a lot more detailed and

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Speaker 5: nuanced into what kind of situations you have Nolan out

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Speaker 5: on the field in his first game before he's ready

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Speaker 5: to go and be fully ramped up.

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Speaker 2: All right, Next question, is Danny ready to go with

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Speaker 2: getting cultured?

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Speaker 5: She's always ready, h Danny will segue to you getting

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Speaker 5: cultured with Danny. It is not just directed at Paul.

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Speaker 2: Do you felt uncultured philistine around here?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I am on social media and consume more at pop

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Speaker 3: culture than both of you combined.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with a little baseball talk out of you.

483
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Speaker 5: Watched the World Series game that went eighteen innings Monday night.

484
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Speaker 4: I made it to the top of the thirteenth and

485
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Speaker 4: then I shut it up.

486
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Speaker 2: I bailed into sixteenth.

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Speaker 5: Did either of you see the national anthem before the

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Speaker 5: game began?

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Speaker 3: No, Oh, good news.

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Speaker 4: I was watching ghost for you.

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Speaker 5: So Brad Paisley saying the national anthem ahead of Monday

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Speaker 5: night's game Game three of the World Series, which went

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Speaker 5: eighteen innings.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

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Speaker 5: Paisley has also sung the national anthem for World Series

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Speaker 5: Game two and twenty seventeen, which went eleven innings, World

497
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Speaker 5: Series Game three and twenty eighteen, which went eighteen innings,

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Speaker 5: and World Series Game one in twenty twenty four, which

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Speaker 5: went ten innings.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's that good luck for agames?

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Speaker 2: This is that Wow?

502
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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?

503
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Speaker 2: So if you have a lot of extra commercials you

504
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Speaker 2: want to load into your broadcasts, you know, if you're

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Speaker 2: a network, higher bread bas quick, someone get Paisley. Here

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Speaker 2: we go. We got a backlog of commercials that got

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Speaker 2: air tonight. It's good.

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Speaker 5: These next two bullet points are follow ups to previous

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Speaker 5: bullet points in recent Getting Cultured segments. Good news everybody

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Speaker 5: Chili's listens to Cardinals Underground because the Skillet Caso is

511
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Speaker 5: returning full.

512
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Speaker 3: They originally relieved.

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Speaker 5: The skillet Caso and the white skillet Caso from their menu.

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Speaker 5: They cited low sales, which I did not believe and

515
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Speaker 5: I grabbed about it on Getting Culture Rights. They replaced

516
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Speaker 5: it with the Southwest case of really watering not very good.

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Speaker 2: Chili's your better well.

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Speaker 5: Chili's tweeted out Monday saying, quote, we hate when y'all

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Speaker 5: are mad at us. They are working on bringing it

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Speaker 5: back quote very soon, and told everyone to stay tuned.

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Speaker 5: No specific date, which has Skillet Caso lovers like our

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Speaker 5: team photographer Kaitlyn Epps weary of when this return is

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Speaker 5: actually going to happen or if it's.

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Speaker 3: Just going to be limited.

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Speaker 4: Did this they crack cracker barreled them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got they got cracker barreled.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of y'all, do we need to be ready for this?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember saying me specifically or the term.

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Speaker 2: Not to profile Texas, but most everybody does use y'all

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Speaker 2: when you go into Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Correct, correct?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to mentally prepare.

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Speaker 3: That was the question.

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Speaker 5: Do you want to get specific of the difference of

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Speaker 5: y'all versus all y'all?

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Speaker 2: Uh No, because I've used all y'all.

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Speaker 5: Y'all y'all is like two people. If it's three or more,

538
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Speaker 5: this is good getting cultured. If it's three or more people,

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Speaker 5: then it's a berber to say all y'all because.

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Speaker 2: See all y'all reminds me of cam Cox A Channel twelve,

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Speaker 2: and I you know, I don't need any more cam

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Speaker 2: Cox my life.

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Speaker 3: But here you go. Okay, the next update, don't hang

544
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Speaker 3: it in the loop.

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Speaker 5: Two of the thieves have been arrested, which came as

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Speaker 5: one was moments away from fleeing the country. Authorities say

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Speaker 5: ampled more than one hundred and fifty DNA samples from

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Speaker 5: the scene of the crime, and while they were able

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Speaker 5: to arrest two thieves, they were not able to collect

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Speaker 5: any of the stolen jewels, which was a total of

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Speaker 5: nine items stolen in just seven minutes.

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Speaker 3: Those have not yet been recovered.

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Speaker 2: So they thought of everything, and it really was ingenius

554
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Speaker 2: to get in and out in less than four minutes

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Speaker 2: and poses construction workers, and they know exactly when the

556
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Speaker 2: alarms were off, et cetera, et cetera. Yet they left

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty samples of DNA no, no, no, just.

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Speaker 5: DNA samples from around the scene of the crime.

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Speaker 3: I think to try and manage it is the lover.

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Speaker 4: There was lots of.

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Speaker 5: Lots of people, lots of fingerprints, lots of people taping

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Speaker 5: on the.

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Speaker 2: Singer prints, ginger prints. Yeah, gotcha.

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Speaker 5: You've been culture your audience podcast, right, Jim Omo Cody?

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, okay, Cody's listening, I mean almost listening.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, we're checking that box getting culture.

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Speaker 2: You know, I do feel a little more erudite, if

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Speaker 2: you will, if you want to match words with words

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Speaker 2: around here.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that all y'all getting we really were getting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that wasn't even planned.

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Speaker 4: There's some more air audition, y'all, organic, getting cultured it.

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Speaker 5: And when you type it, do the apostrophe between the

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Speaker 5: Y and the A, not between the A and the

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Speaker 5: first L.

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 4: Why would you do that?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes that's just how people write it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just stupid.

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Speaker 3: I agree, okay, just checking.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay. So it took a while. Darren finally got

582
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Speaker 2: worked up about something and it was the placement of

583
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Speaker 2: the apostrophe. Up next, Darren will rage and ran about

584
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Speaker 2: exclamation points. So gears. So I looked up on Urban

585
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Speaker 2: Dictionary the meaning of G money a prefix.

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Speaker 4: My dictionary is the best dictionary.

587
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Speaker 2: A prefix given to a person who was held in

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Speaker 2: extremely high regard. They are a G and they are money.

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Speaker 2: That was the actual definition and dictionary dot Com. That's

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Speaker 2: my segue to Garrett Williams. All right, oh, I see you,

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Speaker 2: Because it's not just what Garrett Williams does as one

592
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Speaker 2: of the highest rate nickel corners in the game. It's

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Speaker 2: what he does for the rest of the defense. And

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon hinted as much in his Tuesday press conference

595
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Speaker 2: when asked about the potential return of his nickel corner

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Speaker 2: Garrett Williams, who now is eligible to come back off

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Speaker 2: the knee injury, et cetera, et cetera. And basically it becomes,

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Speaker 2: all right, what can a premier nickel do for you

599
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Speaker 2: in your defense? And the answer would be, and this

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Speaker 2: is another storyline, Darren, you got to keep score here.

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Speaker 2: This is another storyline. If Garrett Williams comes back here,

602
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Speaker 2: you got to watch how that impacts Jalen Thompson and

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Speaker 2: most in particular, Buddha Baker. Buddha Baker's numbers aren't what

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Speaker 2: they were last year. Why what's up with that? Exactly? Well,

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Speaker 2: I would surmise that after you've had to shuffle the

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Speaker 2: secondary because of the Garrett Williams injury and JT has

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Speaker 2: had to go onto the slot a lot more that

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Speaker 2: means Buddha Baker has had to, you know, give some

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Speaker 2: und stay outside the box. But now if everybody's back

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Speaker 2: playing the normal positions, can you reinstall Buddha Bakers that

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Speaker 2: seek and destroy safety and get him a little closer

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Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage and a little and then

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Speaker 2: reduce the ability of an offense to go away from

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Speaker 2: number three.

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Speaker 5: We brought up the idea of Wilson coming off the edge.

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Speaker 5: Maybe the answer is Baker off the blitz and bringing

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Speaker 5: Williams back into the slot is what allows that shift

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Speaker 5: getting back to everybody's quote unquote normal positions to take place.

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Speaker 5: When Williams is on the field, he is one of

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Speaker 5: the smartest players on the field. I mean, he has

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Speaker 5: received high raise for his football IQ since before he

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Speaker 5: was even drafted, that he really stood out at the combine.

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Speaker 2: They've had to tell him to back off in the

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Speaker 2: film work like go see a movie, read a book, watching.

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Speaker 5: Too much film. So to get Williams back will be huge,

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Speaker 5: not just for Smarts. Also, he's an incredible football player.

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Speaker 5: He's very smart. He plays clean discipline football and that

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Speaker 5: allows everyone one else to be a little more creative

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Speaker 5: in how you use him. I'll be intrigued when Williams

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Speaker 5: does make his return, which could be as soon as

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Speaker 5: Monday night in Dallas, if they move him outside at all. Now, look,

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Speaker 5: Max Melton and Will Johnson did a nice job outside.

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Speaker 5: Williams has that experience, and during training camp, where the

634
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Speaker 5: Cardinals were already without starter Sean Murphy bunting and starling Thomas,

635
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Speaker 5: Williams was playing outside quite a bit, something he hasn't

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Speaker 5: done as a Cardinal.

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Speaker 3: That was more in college.

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Speaker 5: When Williams makes his return, I'll be curious to see

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Speaker 5: if they go back to playing him outside the way

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Speaker 5: we were seeing in training camp.

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Speaker 2: That's actually a really good refresher because I'm thinking of

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Speaker 2: him strictly as a nickel. But you're right because he

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Speaker 2: went out in Week two, the end of the Carolina game,

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Speaker 2: and until then he was when they were going base,

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Speaker 2: he was one of the two outside corners, and I

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Speaker 2: forgot all about it.

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Speaker 5: They feel really strong about having Rabbit Taylor Demerson as

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Speaker 5: the third safety.

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Speaker 4: I think the question is going to become has anything

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Speaker 4: changed Do they want to make sure Rabbit stays out there?

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Speaker 4: Has I think Will Johnson's played well enough that he's

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Speaker 4: not going anywhere. So the question is do you want

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Speaker 4: Max Melton out there more? How how might you address

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Speaker 4: these things which in the short term, like I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna like. If you're feeling better about all these defensive backs,

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Speaker 4: that's good, but it's also got to play out on

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Speaker 4: the field. And you know, obviously we still see some

658
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Speaker 4: things on defense that needs to improve.

659
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: If Williams does come back this week, though, what a

660
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 5: week going up against Ceede Lamb.

661
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, or George p Yeah, I mean, if

662
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: there's a week to use Nickel and Dime a lot,

663
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: it would seemingly be this team, even though Javonte Williams'

664
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: top five and rushing yards and his number three and

665
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: rushing touch offensive Ferguson, Yeah, and he has six touchdown

666
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: catches the tight end because you know, everyone's all over

667
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: the two wide receiver ones and so yeah, I mean,

668
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Nick Rowlis, there's a lot to consider and account for

669
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: when you're trying to match up against this Dallas offense.

670
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: And again, if you don't get pressure on Dak, he's

671
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: going to carve you up. That's what the numbers say.

672
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: And at this point, he's seeing everything. As we talk

673
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: to Jonathan gannon about So you're not going to surprise him.

674
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: It's not like you're going against it's not like Week

675
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: run one, you're going against Spencer rat Learning only has

676
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: five games under his belt.

677
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: So who got benched? By the way, do you guys

678
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: see that in New Orleans?

679
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So there's that. And then in terms of

680
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, what I didn't realize is coming off IR

681
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: or POP or at least eligible to come off in

682
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 2: the very near future. L J. Collier justin Jones. And

683
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: then Jones has been eligible. He has been Yeah, because

684
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: he was on IR to start the year. Okay, all right,

685
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: well yeah he's.

686
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: He was, he's in training camp he was.

687
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's been. He's been on IR basically since jump.

688
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: Trey Benson's got another game. I mean, they've got some

689
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: options here, if when and if they're ready.

690
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: And then b J. O Jelai a forgotten man. Been

691
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 2: more than a year.

692
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: I forgotten by all you know?

693
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: I I okay, guilty right here of I mean when

694
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: the news came, then okay, his window is opened and

695
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: he's eligible to practice and he's expected to practice late

696
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: this week. Like wow, that's right. I mean, you just

697
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: haven't heard the name in a while, and all right,

698
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: what is feasible, realistic, doable?

699
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: And how soon his window is expected to open? Thursday?

700
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 5: I believe right, Darren correct Thursday, so that'll be the

701
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 5: twenty one day window. It's it's kind of crazy. I mean,

702
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: Ojlari tore his ACL during training camp of twenty twenty four,

703
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: so it's been a minute since he's been out on

704
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: the practice field.

705
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: So we forgive Paul for losing track.

706
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 5: Someone else who looked very good at that time before

707
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: his injury. So I would I would expect that to move.

708
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: That's going to probably take closer to the full twenty

709
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 5: one days. Get him, get him back in football shape

710
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 5: and wearing pads and building up that stamina, and then

711
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 5: you throw him into the fire, so to speak.

712
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: But you know, if you're getting all these reinforcements D

713
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: line and edge, I mean, if you're going to dress

714
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: ten of those guys, you know, to try and solve

715
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: your fourth quarter defense, I'm all about it. If you're

716
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: just gonna solve it with numbers and keeping guys fresh

717
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: and then in the fourth quarter, you know. Mac Wilson

718
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: Senior had a comment after this last loss against Green

719
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: Bay that you know, if if guys are getting tired

720
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, the first thing to go are

721
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: the details. Yeah, and so all right, you know, more

722
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: opportunity to keep guys fresher. You know, maybe that's better

723
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: football down the stretch, et cetera, et cetera. But if

724
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: you want a compromise memory and you know not recollecting

725
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: very well, well, all you need is another edition of

726
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: wise Guy.

727
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Itps time for the wise Guy the world's bestest growing

728
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

729
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess.

730
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 5: Daddy's right, no weeks off for us here on Cardinals

731
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 5: on the Ground.

732
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: Darren is our ragning champ from our bi week edition

733
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: last week.

734
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: Can I just say for the record that that's why

735
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 4: Paul is such a professional. That was I didn't even

736
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 4: see that segue coming, and he slid right into it.

737
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: I mean voice or no voice boom.

738
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: By the way, don't say the winner, Well, the winner

739
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: might not get anything, but the loser definitely gets disdain, ridicule, Okay.

740
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: Mostly from himself.

741
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: I've noticed it's the room for you, Paul, It's true

742
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: self loathing. I had that's the list. Okay, I'm gonna

743
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: go with number one.

744
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 5: Danny In nineteen eighty five, this former Wyoming tight end

745
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: was drafted in the same Cardinals draft class as Ron Wolfley.

746
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: He played eleven NFL seasons with both the Cardinals and

747
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 5: Cowboys and was a five time Pro Bowl selection.

748
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: Not j Novacheck, Oh, sure would be yes, it would

749
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: be Jeovacheck.

750
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: Off to a hot start. Let me guess, Paul, you

751
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: knew that.

752
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: I didn't realize he was drafted in eighty five.

753
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: I thought he was later than When he puts the

754
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: negative in front of the answer, is it an anti answer?

755
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: When he says not correct answer, does that make it incorrect?

756
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: Control? Control?

757
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: The control, not correct answer equals incorrect in Mike Board the.

758
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: Clap, So from beyond the glass it.

759
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: Was, it was approved from beyond the grave, which is

760
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: going to freak me out of this.

761
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: You know how much you like the graveyard?

762
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Darren, you're the last guy. You're the guy who

763
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: enjoys old graveyard. Should be the last guy for you.

764
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: I don't know why this is such a bad thing AnyWho.

765
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: Paul, pick a number.

766
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: Okay, By the way, I just filed electronically. I already

767
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: went Polly protests a mere forty seven seconds into it.

768
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: I think that's a new all time record. You know,

769
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep going. Number two, please, Number two.

770
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 5: This former linebacker began his career with the Cowboys and

771
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 5: went on to play for the Cardinals from nineteen eighty

772
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 5: nine to nineteen ninety five. He shares his first name

773
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 5: with Data Carvey's character from Wayne's World. Oh yes, that's

774
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: an incredible clue.

775
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: Okay, well, considering I've done radio shows with this gentleman,

776
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: Garth jacks He's on the.

777
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: Board Ladies and gentlemen.

778
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: Yep, how long ago with those radio shows there.

779
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: Man Wolfe's very first radio partner on KMVP way back

780
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: in the at eight sixty am. It was Wolf and

781
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: Garth Jackson the afternoon right after yours truly and Vick Lombardi.

782
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: That was the original lineup.

783
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie I remember, because obviously I've grown

784
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: up here. I remember when I first started hearing Wolf

785
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: on the radio. I definitely had the what the hell

786
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 4: am I listening to? No offense? Wolf?

787
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: Who's the guy with a wrestling voice?

788
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 4: Oh my god?

789
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

790
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: But anyways, number three, we'll go Okay.

791
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 5: This veteran kicker played sixteen seasons in the NFL, spending

792
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 5: time with both the Cardinals and Cowboys. Despite sharing a

793
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: last name with the Motor City mad Man, he's not

794
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 5: related to him.

795
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: Who is he?

796
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 4: Mike Nugent?

797
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 5: Corrast, Paul, you got to get this right to stay

798
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 5: in it.

799
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: I mean, does the word spoon fed come to mind?

800
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: No?

801
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean you actually gave the last name. Okay, here,

802
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: we'll be fair.

803
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: If it wasn't for that, I had no chance, but

804
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: neither to you.

805
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: So No, I knew Mike nuten actually knew before the

806
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: MotorCity Man.

807
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: He always knows you, motor.

808
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: I mean you should know what I'm saying.

809
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: That had new clue about the MotorCity Man man, then

810
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have known.

811
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 2: No, No, without the MotorCity Man.

812
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: Okay, here, here we go. Question four.

813
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 5: In two thousand and eight, the Cardinals beat the Cowboys

814
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 5: in overtime on a blocked punt that was returned for

815
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: a touchdown. Who blocked the punt and who scored the

816
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 5: game winning touchdown for Arizona?

817
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Oh man, I was right there, and I interviewed both

818
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: of them. You interviewed both of us. So the linebacker,

819
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And then the special teams that Okay,

820
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: the guy who scored it was Sean Mory and the

821
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: linebacker who blocked it, he was like a backup inside

822
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: backer and I'll never remember his name. Gol damn it.

823
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: First of all, the guy who blocked it with Seawn

824
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 4: Moury that was scoring as money Basel.

825
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: Staron gets the steal and the wind.

826
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: I love it when he says I interviewed both of them,

827
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: so I'm like, I'm picturing him, picturing like standing on

828
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: right there.

829
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: I do remember being in a hotel weight room on

830
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: the road. It might have been that road trip and

831
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: Monti Bisel came in the night before the game to

832
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: lift some weights. In the amount of weights that he

833
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: was just I left. I was so demoralized.

834
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: I was that guy. Yeah, I think I I remember

835
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 4: being in a restaurant once at Chandler. The mall were

836
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: in Chandler and my wife and I were having we

837
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: were at one of the restaurants and Moni came in

838
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: with his wife or girlfriend and they both looked like

839
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 4: they were they were gonna go for you know whatever,

840
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: the weightlifting mister America thing or whatever that would be.

841
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: Like the couple on the fitness magazine exactly, yeah.

842
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: Exactly, they actually were on fitness magazine covers.

843
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: Probably were okay, all right, more reason for self loathing

844
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: right there, just that memory along with losing again. So okay, uh,

845
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: where were we on this one? Uh? The roster spas

846
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: speaking of taking a beating cam Scataboo.

847
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 4: Come on, crushing blow for cam scataboo. And and I

848
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: it is really like, obviously I'm a I'm a Cam fan,

849
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: as most issue fans are, but he truly did seem

850
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: to catch a supernova kind of feel for across the country.

851
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 4: And somebody made this point that like even Eagles fans

852
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: who generally cannot stand at everybody. In fact, I heard

853
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: on Arizona Sports there reminding me that this was a

854
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: fan base that once cheered Michael Irvin looking like he

855
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: got paralyzed during a game, and they were like, feel

856
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 4: they felt bad for cam Scataboo. And it does feel

857
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: like the league lost a little something when Cam Scattaboo

858
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: got hurt this weekend.

859
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: You know, at this point in my life, at my

860
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: advanced age, Janny, you could take my interest in every

861
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 2: other sport combined, and it wouldn't equal my interest football, right,

862
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: but all the injuries are deflating. Not just on the Cardinals,

863
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: that's a good call, but around the league. It does

864
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: erode my interest a little bit in football because we

865
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: never get a true gauge who's the best team. We

866
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: never find out who is the best team in the NFL.

867
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: It's a game of survivor one of your favorites, right,

868
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just and so you get to the

869
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: end of the season, and although you determine a winner,

870
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: and it's decided on the gridiron, et cetera, et cetera,

871
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: fair play competition, but do we ever really know who's

872
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: the best team. It's what team survives injuries the best.

873
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: And then I know there's the whole argument, well you

874
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: got to build a fifty three man and the whole thing.

875
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: I get it. But it is deflating. You know, it

876
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: does seem like there's more Every year we say the

877
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: same thing. It seems like there's more injuries this year

878
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: than ever.

879
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: All those injuries are deflating.

880
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 5: There's there's not going to be a team come Week

881
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 5: eighteen that's got the same makeup of Week one. And

882
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 5: that's the unfortunate truth. It is deflating, and especially someone

883
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 5: who was kind of like the rally of the NFL

884
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 5: in Scattaboy, regardless of whether or not you're an ASU

885
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: or a Giants fan, that's that's tough. I mean the injury,

886
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 5: it's awfless for you.

887
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: Well it was, But to Paul's point, like one of

888
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 4: the one of the things that you notice, Like again

889
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: this weekend, I'm sitting there watching a lot of football

890
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: because obviously the Cardinals didn't have a game, And what's

891
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: one of the things you're noticing is what you're not seeing,

892
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 4: whether it's Kirk Cousins playing quarterback, or Carson Wentz or

893
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: Snoop Huntley who won the game for Baltimore. But it's

894
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: that's I'm not watching the NFL for Snoop Puntley. No

895
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: offense to Snoop Puntley.

896
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: It's like my Pauli Pigskins fantasy football team's done a

897
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: three game bender. I'm ready to go in and start

898
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: firing dudes. And then I realized, oh wait a minute,

899
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: my run game stinks because I had James Connor hello

900
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: as our featured running back, and what would James Connor

901
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: do for a Cardinals rushing attack, right, Yes, and then

902
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: you know there's the ultimate bottom line. Nobody cares about

903
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: your injuries, No, nobody, nobody cares.

904
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: But that's not really what you're talking about, Paul.

905
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: You're talking about the game.

906
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't This isn't about an individual team, and

907
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: I agree with you, it absolutely stinks.

908
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: So does that bring us back to the Cowboys defense

909
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: that comment there or we already said enough about.

910
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: You know, speaking of the Ravens, Paul, did you see

911
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 4: they're two and five. Lamar Jackson is finally going to

912
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 4: come back, and we won't get into the whole Lamar

913
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 4: Jackson injury thing, which was interesting in itself. Yes, full

914
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 4: and then not full. They're two and five and they

915
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: are the betting favorites to win their division.

916
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: No wait until Joe Burrow comes back, because the Steelers

917
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: are now what four and three?

918
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: Four and three, But they're looking, they're knowing, they know

919
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: Lamar's coming back. The Ravens have a pretty doable schedule

920
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: and they're saying the Steelers aren't all that, and.

921
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: They're separated by one game in the lost column.

922
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: And uh, well, I think it's two now. I think

923
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: the two and five the Steelers are all fourth three.

924
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: My bad.

925
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Still, the Browns are the Browns. The Bengals probably

926
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 4: blew a chance to stay in the race by losing

927
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: a game. They shouldn't do. The Jets, so like they

928
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 4: look at Lamar coming back and where the Ravens are

929
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: and they think, yeah, that team has got a chance

930
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: to pull it out of the fire.

931
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me bring that back to the Cardinals.

932
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: There's still ten games to go. That's a season onto itself,

933
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: and it'd be one thing if you're getting blown out

934
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: or you have the world's worst defense like Cincinnati. Okay,

935
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: we'll throw Dallas a bone. As you said earlier, Danny.

936
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: The one team that's below Dallas in every single category

937
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. So you can lament losing Joe Burrow

938
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: all you want. You don't have a defense. But the

939
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 2: Cardinals for a good stretch of the season at top

940
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: five scoring defense. Now they've had issues in the fourth quarter.

941
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: But wait a minute, if they're getting let's just say,

942
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: O Walter Nole in the third back, if maybe a

943
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: Justin Jones and or and LJ. Collier is coming back

944
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: at Garrett Williams is coming back a BJ o Jalai.

945
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're getting reinforcements now, I know the

946
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: schedule as of right now, or the standings as of

947
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: right now, six of the ten remaining Cardinals opponents if

948
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: the season ended today, would be playoff teams. It's not

949
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: an easy schedule, we get it. There's a you know,

950
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: the strength of schedule. But Cardinals played the Colts right

951
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: down to the end. They played the Packers right down

952
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: to the end. So at least for me, I mean,

953
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: there's a season still to be played in a lot

954
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: of ways.

955
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 5: Absolutely, the Cardinals aren't a team that you know, allowing

956
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: forty points a game. They're not getting blown out of

957
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 5: the water.

958
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: A loss is a loss. These are close losses.

959
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 5: Against very good teams that they are going down to

960
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 5: the wire against.

961
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 3: They can just turn it around in the fourth quarter,

962
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: execute on a few more.

963
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: Plays on both sides of the ball. Things could be

964
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 5: very different. And things can be very different with ten

965
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 5: games still to be played.

966
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: I am here's how I look at it. I don't

967
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: blame any fans who want to tap out because it's

968
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: a personal feeling. And I'm not sitting here saying, like

969
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 4: the Ravens, the Cardinals should be the betting favorite to

970
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 4: win the NFC West.

971
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: No, and I'm not saying that.

972
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 4: I know you're not. And two I'm trying to make

973
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 4: the point there. Yeah, but I guess where I'm going

974
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: with this is on It sounds funny to say, but

975
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 4: the they still control their own destiny, now, is it unlikely?

976
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 4: Of course? And you can play that game and there's

977
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: nuance to this. But because there's so many games left,

978
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: you know, if they beat the Cowboys. Okay, And and look,

979
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 4: I we we did a podcast this off season July nineteenth.

980
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 4: July nineteenth, seet Danny's all over because she knows exactly

981
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: where I'm going with this, and we had to make

982
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: bold predictions. And I, as you know, Paul am not

983
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 4: somebody who makes bold predictions. I'm not hot take ie.

984
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: I'm the opposite of Paul Calvic. But my bold prediction

985
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: was back on July nineteenth that the Cardinals are gonna

986
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: come out of the by and win in Dallas and

987
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 4: win in Seattle and then beat San Francisco at home.

988
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: Now that looks like an incredibly high mountain to climb

989
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: right now.

990
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: Wow, But I'm not wrong yet.

991
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 5: So okay, and Paul's prediction was that the game against

992
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 5: the Buccaneers will be moved to primetime, which is still

993
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 5: a possibility. And mine was that when the Cardinals' host Jacksonville,

994
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter will not be a two way player, which

995
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 5: is essentially trending.

996
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 4: That was first of all, I'm now that I know,

997
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 4: and I can't remember if we brought this up at

998
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 4: the time, but I'm going to bring it up right now.

999
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: I feel like Tampa getting moved to primetime is all

1000
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 4: about Paul making sure he's not in the sun. What

1001
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 4: kind of prediction was that.

1002
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: I'll take Tampa in November any day or December whenever

1003
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: it is? Yes, right, So okay, here here is my

1004
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: hot take. What if I said there are going to

1005
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: be three playoff teams out of the NFC West doable? Okay?

1006
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: Are we so sure it's going to be the Niners?

1007
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: Are there going to be able to overcome the horrendous

1008
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: amount of attrition because what you saw in their last

1009
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: game was a team that now finally, finally has been

1010
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: decimated by those injuries. No more dead cat bounces by

1011
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers like it's you know, they're falling apart.

1012
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: What Here's what JG's always talking about. Can't look in

1013
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: the past, can't look in the past. But man, you

1014
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: bring up the forty nine ers and all the money. Man,

1015
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: if they just cult a hold on and win that game.

1016
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: Of course, you can say that about at least three games.

1017
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: You know, so, and you know and it's hard not

1018
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: to keep looking at the Tennessee game and view that

1019
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: as we start to see holiday commercials as the gift

1020
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: that keeps on giving in the wrong way. You know,

1021
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: said on Monday Night football. A lot of Christmas commercials

1022
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: on Monday Night football. If you didn't happen is the season?

1023
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: It's October, Paul.

1024
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 2: So, okay, anything else. By the way, Halloween, Danny, are

1025
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: you you coming into the office on Halloween Friday in

1026
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: costume or not? No?

1027
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: I will not be in the office on Friday.

1028
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. That's right.

1029
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 4: She's going to be in costume in Dallas. That's right,

1030
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 4: playing the dutiful daughter.

1031
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: That's true, the dutiful aunt.

1032
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: Okay to a little bit early. No, absolutely not.

1033
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 4: Danny asked me before we came in what I was

1034
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 4: going to address as Yes, I said, sports reporter.

1035
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: And I said he wore that last year, and I said.

1036
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: You don't.

1037
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: If it's not broken, you don't fix it. Danny.

1038
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, By the way, does dad surreca? Does

1039
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: he decorate the house? Is the house going to be

1040
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: a Halloween? Halloween? No?

1041
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 5: Because when I lived at home, one of my favorite

1042
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 5: things was to decorate the house. A quick funny story,

1043
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 5: there was a time I had like just moved back

1044
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 5: from college and my parents, who were driving down to

1045
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: Austin to visit my sister at school, and my parents

1046
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 5: very kindly left me some money for food whatever I

1047
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 5: would need over the weekend. And I use that money

1048
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 5: on two things. One to take my dog alive arcs

1049
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 5: he's our only dog. Oft time across the street to

1050
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 5: the church that had a pumpkin patch where you could

1051
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 5: take like pictures. So I bought pumpkins and I bought

1052
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 5: spiderweb to decorate the front yard with the money that

1053
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 5: my parents left me. So I do like decorating.

1054
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: But no, the house will not be decorated.

1055
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: Most college students would take that money over to the

1056
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: happy hour. But okay, that's good, Danny, doesn't good. No,

1057
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: that's good. That's good. I mean, so all right, you know,

1058
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: all the food money. We'll leave it there while she

1059
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: has plausible deniability here on this edition a Cardinals Underground

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