1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Gonna talk to you again, Spirol. Here we are in 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: week twelve. Somehow, I know, God, it's it's flown by. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Good to be with you, JP. Happy Thanksgiving to you 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: and UH and to all your listeners as well. Same 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: to you, and I appreciate your time. Where have you 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: been the last few weeks since we spoke? Oh? Man, 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: got these weeks all blend together? Uh? We were Jacksonville 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. We got We've had you 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: guys a ton um, which is always a pleasure to 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: come to, uh, to Florida, and especially as we get 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: into the winter months. But you know, we've bounced around, 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: We've done a ton of Cincinnati. We have the the 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: unfortunate experience of of doing the Cincinnati game last week 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: and which, of course Joe Burrow went down with that 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: just awful injury and it was just such a tragic 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: way for his season to end. And uh, you know, 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: tough to be Bengals fan. You you've been searching for 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback for years and years and you finally have 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: your stud and it's all gone good from that position standpoint, 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: and then he goes down. So just a brutal sport 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: unforgiving sport, as you know, but um, you know, it's 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: just it's just the NFL. You know, some weeks you 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: get eight games, other weeks you you have to see 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: something like that. And it's what makes this game so 25 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: emotional and and exciting at times and exasperating and all 26 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: of the above. So it's been a great year. It's 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: been a wild year, of course, unlike any other, unprecedented 28 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: in so many ways. And we're just happy to be here. 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: And man, you know, like you and like everyone around 30 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: the league, we're just hoping that we can get through 31 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: it and get you know, get to the super Bowl 32 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: and everything kind of goes off. I was gonna say, 33 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: without a hitch, but just get to the finish line. 34 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Let's just get to the end of the season and 35 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: then figure out the playoffs from there. You mentioned the 36 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati quarterback issue. Of course, they're and and and horrible 37 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: to see. Let's transition to the Jaguars quarterback situation now. Well, 38 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: Jake Luten through four interceptions last week and just didn't 39 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: seem to have it together. It's a tough defense of 40 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: the fits for Steelers, of course, but head coach Jack 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: Moone this week decided to make a change and Mike glennon, 42 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: we'll get us first start since twenty seventeen Week four 43 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: with the Bears against the Packers that year. It's been 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: a little while, but that's the state of affairs. You're 45 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville now with Gardner still trying to throw and 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: figure out the thumb issue. They're trying to give Jake 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: Luton a little time away. What can we expect from 48 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Mike glenn And I think is the big question, and 49 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: it might be a reason why he hasn't started in 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: a few years. It feels like, yeah, you know, I 51 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: think you're getting to the point now in his season 52 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: when you're Doug Morone for a team, obviously that is 53 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: just kind of playing out the string where you have 54 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: to start to make these tough decisions. And I guess 55 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: part of me was surprised that that he would make 56 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: this change now. Um, but you know, look, this is 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: this is why being a head coach is so difficult, 58 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: and and Doug has had to deal with so many injuries. Um, 59 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, obviously with the pandemic like every other team. 60 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: Now he's got some assistant coaches he's gonna be without. 61 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: This is it's a really tough spot for him. And 62 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: and Doug knows his team, and he knows the pulse 63 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: of his team better than anyone, and he feels like 64 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: it's a good time to allow Jake Lewton to maybe 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: step back and evaluate what he's seen, what he's experienced 66 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: these last three weeks, uh, and and go from there. 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: And look, you know, Mike Glennon deserves this chance. He's 68 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: done everything the coaching staff has asked him to do. 69 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: I think there's a reason why he has been where 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: he's been, and he hasn't had a frontline job the 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: last couple of years. And and this is his chance 72 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: to maybe catch you on, not just with this team, 73 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: but but one of the other teams around the league. 74 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: And and he's got to perform now. Um, it's difficult 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: to do that when you've got injuries in front of 76 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: you and you're playing with a very young supporting cast, 77 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: as we know is the case with this Jacksonville team. 78 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: And and we'll see what the future has in store 79 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: for him and also for Jake Lewton. You know, at 80 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: my partner and I, Adam Arceiletta, were in Jacksonville for 81 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: the Houston game for Jake's first game, and you know, 82 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: we watched him have that very early success, you know, 83 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: the long touchdown pass I think on the second or 84 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: third attempt, and we kind of looked at each other 85 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: and said, man, you know, maybe there's something with this kid, 86 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: and of course lo and behold it. It kind of 87 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: went south on him there quickly. But um, you know, 88 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't think this spells the end by any stretch 89 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: for Jake. I think there's a lot of good air. 90 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: You know, he's got the great frame, and he looks 91 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: like a legit quarterback prospect, and maybe this is a 92 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: chance for him to catch his breath and and to 93 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: learn some things and to move that step forward. But 94 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, that'll be that'll remain to be seen here 95 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks, in the next couple 96 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: of years. I think it's obvious. The big picture here 97 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: is they're going quarterback earlier in the draft, no matter 98 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: who's making the decision. I think that has been determined 99 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: over the last few weeks around here that you know, 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: he just can't put a franchise on these guys shoulders, 101 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: at least right now. So that's for an offseason conversation. 102 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Sparreroudidas with a CBS Sports. Now on offense, we stay 103 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: with a bright spot. We'll get to all the COVID 104 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: issues coming up on defense. But James Robinson has been 105 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: fantastic obviously continues to build. He's over a thousand scrimmage 106 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: yards this year. You know, he has about a hundred 107 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: and seventy two rush attempts this year, only eleven of 108 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: those are for negative yardage Bureau. This guy always gets forward, 109 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: he always falls ahead, he's finding a crease. He's hard 110 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: to hit. And for an undrafted guy to have that 111 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: kind of skill set and vision, I don't think I've 112 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: seen that in a long time. And it's really if 113 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: Now I know they're one at nine, but if they 114 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: didn't have James Robinson, where would this offense be. Yeah, 115 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: it's such a great story. And and I think when 116 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: you really examine James Robinson and his entire football career 117 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: high school, uh, collegiately at Illinois State, he he has 118 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: had success and he's excelled really at every level. So 119 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, I think the people that know James Robinson 120 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: the best, his family is certainly his his ex teammates, 121 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: his coaches at the high school level, and and brocks 122 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: back in that entire staff at Illinois State. I don't 123 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: think they're really surprised deep down, you know, we we 124 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: had a chance, We had a couple of chances now 125 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: to speak with him via zoom. And he's just a 126 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: really diligent, hard working kid who I think has had 127 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: to earn every opportunity he's gotten, you know, lightly recruited 128 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: out of high school. I think Iowa was the only 129 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: really major collegiate a him that took a look at him, 130 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: and it was very light interest before they kind of 131 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: backed away for whatever reasons, and obviously undrafted into the NFL, 132 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: he had to earn his way onto a roster spot. 133 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: And sometimes those guys are the hungriest prospects that you 134 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: find and you get, you know, sometimes the high picks 135 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: who who flame out quickly. UM and And I don't 136 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: think there's anything about this kid that tells us that 137 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: that's going to be the case. And then you start 138 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: to break down his numbers JP, it's just it's it's 139 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: amazing what he's been able to do UM on really 140 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: limited opportunities. You know, behind an offensive line that's had 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: the issues up front, they don't have a ton around 142 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: UM around the running back position is just a lot 143 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: of youth on this team, So so defense is now 144 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: knowing the success that he's had, they're able to to 145 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: key on him a little bit more. But as you said, 146 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: he's just able to churn out that yardage even on 147 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: players that are breaking down. He always seems to fall forward, 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: like you said, And there's just very little about this 149 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: kid not to like. And and I think he's gonna 150 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: be around for a long time. I think he's he's 151 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: a building block for this franchise that's really searching right 152 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: now for who they're gonna try to build this offense 153 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: around over the next couple of years. Spiro Detas with 154 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: a CBS Sports has the call of the Browns Jaguars 155 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: game today. Let's flip it to the defense. There were 156 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: issues anyway, of course, because they haven't been playing well 157 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the year. There's been a couple of 158 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: bright spots. Miles Jack has some moments this year, but 159 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: now they're injury issues. Josh Allen's done for an extended period. 160 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: It feels like no ligament damage in the knee. That's 161 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: the good news. A bunch of the secondary guys are down. 162 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Sydney Jones. C. J. Henderson is on I R. You're 163 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: digging deep down the well to get some cornerbacks on 164 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: the field this week and then throw on top of 165 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: all that Spireau. But the coaching staff all of a 166 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: sudden has COVID nineteen issues three defensive coaches earlier in 167 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: the week. We're not allowed to go to the practice 168 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: field and they won't be allowed at the game today. 169 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: That's a lot of games for a defense that was 170 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: struggling already, and they've got the monumental task of trying 171 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: to slow down this Browns running game today and that's 172 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: a lot to ask. With everything that's happened, it's unreal. 173 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm a big Doug Marone fan. I 174 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: know he's he's taking his lumps from the media, and 175 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, some of it rightfully. So when you don't 176 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: win in this league, you're gonna you're gonna, you know, 177 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: be the butt of of a lot of criticism. But 178 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: we've we've had a chance to meet with him a ton. 179 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: We we've done so many Jaguars games over the years, 180 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: so you know, we've we've become big fans of his. 181 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: And if you're Doug Moron, you just have to throw 182 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: your hands up at this point it say, you know 183 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: what else could go wrong? Right? I mean, obviously it's 184 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: a pandemic, and every team is having to deal with 185 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: with COVID cases and and losing coaches. H just last 186 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: week we had the Bengals and their defensive coordinator lu 187 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: and A Rumo was down two or three assistants, so 188 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: he's having to coach the dbs on the sideline in 189 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: between defensive series. Everyone's having to adjust. But it just 190 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: seemed is like Jacksonville and this defense has, you know, 191 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: has just been behind the eight ball right from the snap. 192 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: And and I think you know, every team has been 193 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: able to deal with the challenges and logistical issues with 194 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: the pandemic differently based on how their teams are built. 195 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: And I think we all knew because of this Jacksonville 196 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: team being so young and inexperienced, they were gonna struggle 197 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: without having the traditional offseason, you know, no t O 198 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: t A is, no rookie camps, no preseason games, really 199 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: the time where young rookie, first, second, and even third 200 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: year players really get acclimated. And it's it's affected them, 201 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: maybe more than some of the other more veteran teams 202 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: around the league, and now I think they're really going 203 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: to struggle here down the stretch. You know, you're having 204 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: to play guys that have gotten very little reps, very 205 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: little snaps in games, and and now suddenly you're without 206 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator and some of your leading defensive assistance. 207 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a very very challenging day and the 208 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks as they try to close the 209 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,479 Speaker 1: season and and desperately try to build on something positively. 210 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Be careful when you ask what else could go wrong? 211 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: You just might find out, and I think the Jaguars 212 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: have done that this year. I appreciate your time. I 213 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: have a great call today and we'll talk to you 214 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: again down the line here soon. Thanks JP, I appreciate it.