1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: When you first got the league and you first started playing. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: Who was the first person to bust your ass? 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: I think it was when Kobe had that sixty one. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, for all of that, man, I got most of 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 3: it in the crush man. It was crazy. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Remember we start the game off and ship coming off 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: the bench at the time, So you killing, I'm looking. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm looking at D'Ann Tony, you looking down kind of 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: like this. I don't want to go in the game 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: to day. 11 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 3: I slided down. 12 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: He called me go in, So when I go in, 13 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: it's got I scored like quick ten twelve points he 14 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: had he slowed down. 15 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: He scored about eight woman in the game. I'm like, 16 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: that's going good. 17 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: Second half. Come third quarter, same thing. You score about 18 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: another eight points. Man, fourth quarter, Come now you just 19 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: go crazy Like the last three minutes, he just go crazy, 20 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: score like sixteen eighteen straight. 21 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: I'm like this, this is amazing. 22 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: They still show he had one play when he like 23 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: he did a double pivot on. 24 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: The spect every time. I still look at like that. 25 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: That's probably the best move I've ever seen. Said, yeah, 26 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 3: you know, I remember, I remember that day. 27 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: I was sitting there like this is crazy, Like Spike 28 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: was on the side. 29 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: The whole week was crazy as we had I think 30 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 3: he was first maybe. 31 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Then we had Broun who came in had fifty five 32 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: in a triple double, and then we had Paul Pierce 33 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: coming get thirty in the game winning. 34 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: So the whole week was crazy to all three of 35 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: them games. 36 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was Washington, Je Laber, I gotta 37 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: do something better. 38 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: Spike Lee on the sideline arguing with Kobe, Kobe pointing 39 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 4: at him. 40 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: They was doing like a documentary on it the same. 41 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: It was all type of just it was crazy, y'all. 42 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: Y'all you're chilling with the knuckleheads, Q Ridge, D Miles 43 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: in the building. We got a special guest today, my 44 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: brother brother. 45 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: This is my rook. 46 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about, from my alma mater, 47 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 4: from Benny ha Hi Ben. 48 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: Harbor, Michigan. 49 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: We got Iod Wilson CHANNELA in the building. 50 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: Appreciate you something through Bro, Bro my ol gz. 51 00:01:50,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: Right here, specially Big Quan Want saying D Miles, you know. 52 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: This is rich and D Miles and knuckleheads. We coult 53 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: a push up. That's when I knew. I was like, 54 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: this is fact finder right here. This is a story 55 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: that people don't know. 56 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: Can't call me soft, and you can't disrespect where I'm from. 57 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: I did deal with a lot of losers and that 58 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: just sucked. Now I got your crack. We come from 59 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: an authentic old jeek standpoint, but it's always good vibe. Yoh, 60 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: what a y'all doing here? 61 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 4: I thought I was just coming over to watch the game, 62 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: and you guys got microphone set up in the backyard. 63 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: And okay, I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. 64 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: I like it. 65 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Like I want to talk about, like where you're from. 66 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: I got a best friend from Lancy, Michigan. Yeah, he's 67 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: from Lancy, Michigan, but he grew up in East Saint Louis, 68 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: and man, we've been best friends since like fifth grade. 69 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: And I know, like the different parts of Michigan. And 70 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: like when you came up, who did you like look 71 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: up or that was somebody who was famous, somebody that 72 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: don't nobody know. It's probably be somebody from the hood 73 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: that you've just seen. But just talk about more about 74 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: where you're from. 75 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: Uh, First of all, my grandfather he's from Saint Louis, 76 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: so I'm familiar with Saint Louis, and he's Saint Louis 77 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: real with shit. It's kind of similar to East Saint 78 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: Louis far as it being small predominantly black, it is 79 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: probably like ninety eight percent black. Like average house incomes 80 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: like fifteen to twenty grand So just from that standpoint, 81 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: is very similar. But like people I looked up to 82 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: growing up, I had to say, my grandma, she raised shit, 83 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: twelve kids, including me, most of them in the projects, 84 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: and they say they money bought a house. 85 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 86 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: When I came along, she treated me just like her 87 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: her kids. So you know, I would say her because 88 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: back then when a lot of people that she was 89 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: watching TV that you looked up to, you know what 90 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: I mean, mostly like street guys that was hustling. Robert 91 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: Whaley was one of the people I looked up to, 92 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: but he was like he who but he was more 93 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: like a street due. 94 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: He was like in and out and I'm saying, got 95 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: locked up. They had nur lives, you know what I mean. 96 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 5: I went to NBA camp with Robert w Yeah, that 97 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 5: was my homeboy. 98 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah he was cool, you know what I mean, But 99 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, unfortunate situation, man. 100 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: But Yeah, that was kind of it. 101 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: Then, you know, like being right up the street from Chicago, 102 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: a lot of dudes come down there. 103 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: That was hustling. 104 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: They had traveled down there and then they come so 105 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: it's a lot of dudes game. 106 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: Bang, GDS, VICEUS. You know. 107 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you see them dudes like growing up. But 108 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: it wasn't too many people on the positive know that 109 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: you've seen. It's more like who I don't want to 110 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: be like then you know who I want to be 111 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: like growing up? 112 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, from Ben Harbor, Michigan and coming to Deep Paul Man, 113 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: how was that for you? 114 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: For me, that shit was like eye opening. 115 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: You know, always been going to Chicago since I was 116 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: a kid, but just being there and that in that school, 117 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: you know, just seeing a different type of people, you know, 118 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: they backgrounds they come from and shit like that. All 119 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: I seen was people like struggling people, no money. 120 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: You know y'all know y'all from the South Side and 121 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: the East Saint Louis, So you know. 122 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: It's a different environment you see how you know, people 123 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: interact with each other, interact with their families and shit 124 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: like that. 125 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: So it was a big eye opening from that standpoint. 126 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: It was different for me too. 127 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: When I got up there, you know, it was like 128 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: being exposed that the college life and you know, the 129 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: different culture. Yeah, yeah, like you know, you know, we 130 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 4: got up there. They got a pail grant for you. 131 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You kind of struggling in Lincoln, 132 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: so that in an hour and be struggling right again. 133 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: You took the visit to the Paul. What other schools 134 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: you took. 135 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: The visit to, Man, just Michigan State, that's it. 136 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: So you went to Michigan State, That's it. So what 137 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: made you just choose to Paul. 138 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: I think I just vibe with the players that was 139 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: on the team at the time. 140 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: You know. 141 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: It was it was a few guys from uh, New 142 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: York that was there, a couple of guys from Milwaukee, 143 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: a couple of guys from Chicago, and they was kind 144 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: of similar to me, same or similar background. 145 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: You know. 146 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: We just had fun and I was up there and 147 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: I was like, man, I like these guys and we'll 148 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: go here, you know, Chicago right up the streets. 149 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I go here. 150 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 5: Did you know the history any history before you you 151 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: got there? 152 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? Facts, mam. I had a guy from my neighborhood. 153 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: Actually that played with Q you know what I'm saying, 154 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: So I knew from that and then just being you know, 155 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: like right up the street, you know, having WGN, so 156 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: you know they used to play on WG and so 157 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: I know marcu guire and all that terry commings. So 158 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: I know the history real. 159 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: Well, straight up, straight up, it's full. So how did 160 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: you feel? Like, you know what I'm saying. I remember 161 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: when you announced and now she was leaving school and 162 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 4: it was like he going to the NBA and it 163 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: was like people's like what you know what I'm saying. 164 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 3: It was kind of like is he gonna get picked? 165 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: I remember Janie hitting me like because I was trying 166 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: to figure out, like yo, what's going on? And they 167 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: was like, man, some people you know, you know how 168 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: you hear what's going on? Like he got gang but 169 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: he's straight. So I'm like, as far as the NBA is, 170 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: he's gonna get you know, picked or whatever. They was like, 171 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 4: I don't know, So how did what What made you say? 172 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: You know? 173 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: Nah, I'm good. I'm like cause you know, the chatter 174 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: be out there, like you can see basically what's going on. 175 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 4: What made you confident that you I'm gonna get up 176 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: out of here. 177 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: Man, be honest. 178 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't even confident because I wasn't I wasn't on 179 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: draft board first or second right. But I was in 180 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: class one day after we finished, and I was just 181 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: sitting there like, damn. 182 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: Man, that's real. You know how the days you be irritated. 183 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: Motherfucker's talking to you and ship man want to hear 184 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: this ship. So the teacher was talking, I'm looking at 185 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: my homework from walking. I'm like, man, I just stood up, 186 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: like what you're doing? Like I quick, man, I'm about 187 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: to go home. He's like go home? Like yeah, he 188 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: like to the doring room. Like now I'm gonna go 189 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: to the crib. He's like in Michigan. I'm like, man, 190 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm finna go to Michigan. I left, I packed my bags. 191 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: My homeboy can't pick me up. I was just sitting 192 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: in the crib for about a month before I decided 193 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: I was gonna do. 194 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: We was just sitting there. 195 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: He had a TV or they had it was my 196 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: two homeboy. They had a TV in a bean bag. 197 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: You're sitting there drinking, playing Xbox every day, mess with 198 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: a couple of chicks. I'm like, I'm about to price 199 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: and I'm not going back to school, so I can't. 200 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: I can't handle the school. So I hit my AU coach. 201 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: He was the agent at the time. I'm like, I 202 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: want to just put my name in the drift and 203 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: see what happened. He was like, you sure. I'm like, yeah, 204 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: fuck it. Everybody like you are you stupid? 205 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: You crazy? 206 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: You ain't even know the draft board. You go back, 207 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: You'll be your first round pick for sure. I'm like, no, 208 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: I can't. I ain't even gonna make it. I ain't 209 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: gonna make it through the school year. So I was like, fuck, 210 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take my chance right here. 211 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 212 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: How was the you know, going through the through the 213 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 4: pre draft process for you, because I remember at some 214 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: point like you only did how many workouts or. 215 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: Did one ankle up? 216 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: Who was the one workout for the exactly exactly that's dope? 217 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: And then that's who picked and he did one workout 218 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: And how was that? 219 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: How did that go for you? The first one was 220 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: real good? 221 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: Then then they called me in for another workout right 222 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: before the draft. 223 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, they ain't gonna pick me. 224 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: You ain't do so good. 225 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: So I'm working out with H. I forgot the kid name, 226 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: but you end up getting drafted by the podcast. He 227 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: killed me the whole workout and I'm tired. I'm like, damn, 228 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: so but he ended up picking me. So it was 229 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: a good man, that's what's up. 230 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: So when you first got to the league, how was that? 231 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: After the workout, you like, I ain't gonna get picked, 232 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: it's over with. 233 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: Then you get. 234 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: Picked higher than anybody could have ever imagined. 235 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: Everybody looking like what how what was your reaction to that? 236 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 2: My first name was like, damn, I hope I don't 237 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: get bulled at the guard. 238 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: Everybody come right. But I played in the Big East, 239 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: so I guess that was cool enough for them. 240 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: So I ain't get booed. Actually, so that was cool. 241 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: But then my second I'm like, damn, I got to. 242 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: Go back to the hood. They gotta throw a party. 243 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: You know, you know that's right in fact, so I 244 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: went home. We threw a party in my home. Boys 245 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: checked at my grandma house after that. But after that, 246 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: it's like I came Stephan, Steph called me, actually, like man, 247 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: everybody got report early. 248 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: I guess he was trying to be superved ship. So 249 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: I went back. I went I went early. 250 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: Actually, like being around Allen Houston too was cool because 251 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: I liked him growing up. He was trying to make 252 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: his comeback then, so that was probably my first when 253 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: I first met him. Like, damn, Allan Houston, it's crazy, Yeah, 254 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: it's crazy. Did everybody come you know? Like I said, 255 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: you had you small cropper Steph, my league bros, like 256 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: all dudes I know something growing up. 257 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: So then I met Nate, I'm like. 258 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: I hate, I hate this dude, so irritation at the time, 259 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: but end up being like my best friend though. 260 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: But when I first met I'm like, I can't take this. 261 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: We ended up being real cool though. Man, that's my guy. Man. 262 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like they told us some crazy stories. This 263 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: is a story about Ellen Houston. Since you brought Ellen 264 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: Houston up. The first time me and Q play Allen Houston, 265 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: we down there looking at him work out like before 266 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: the games, and he ain't missing. I'm talking about everything, 267 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: his his form, everything just looks so good. 268 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 5: Then we look at his shoes. His shoes said h 269 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 5: two oh. 270 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I thought that was the dopest ship ever. She said, 271 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: two oh, and then were looking at this boy just 272 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: not miss nothing was like this boy. 273 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: I definitely had jumpers out of the game. He had 274 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: fifty in l A. Yeah remember that game. 275 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to have to play against some of 276 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: them veterans. It was him and spree Wheel on the 277 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: same team when we was playing against Yea. 278 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: That was the real next team. 279 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 4: Right we first got to the league, Bro, we had 280 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: some of the some of the craziest Like how you 281 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: talk about Nate, Like, just think about some the things 282 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: that happened right there that first year, Like this is 283 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: his first year coming in. Now you got Nate running around. 284 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: He putting x Lax and Eddie Syria on the plane, 285 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: remember that, Like it was my man too, see, but 286 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: like it was unlimited, just wild stuff going on for 287 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 4: you to be a rook you looking like like I 288 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 4: remember trying to get you to come out to dinner 289 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: and stuff. 290 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: Man, And you're in a big city. I know you've 291 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: been in the country, brother, in a big city, New York. 292 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I can't, man, I don't know too much. 293 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, That's how it was with LA. 294 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: When I got to l A. 295 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: I was like, man, there's too many people moving around, 296 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: like it be quiet on Sundays, right, don't nobody be outside. 297 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 5: Folks might go to church and there in the house 298 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 5: cooking or something's la. It's like everybody moving twenty four 299 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: hours a day. 300 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: Like man, country boy, I don't know what was going on, 301 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: Like this's too big for There's a lot of shit 302 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: going on New York. 303 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,479 Speaker 2: I know you're going to New York. That shit was overwhelming. 304 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: Then we got z Bo on Draft night. He was 305 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: on and ship. It was just so much shit going 306 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 2: over the town. I first got there, I'm like, damn a. 307 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: Movie, like for real. 308 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: From day to day it was like you know, with 309 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: the newspapers, the media, it was just like what I'm saying, 310 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 4: like for a young fellas, like, yo, this is the 311 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: least because I feel like your evolution is crazy to me. 312 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: Your temperament is you kind of more to yourself quite 313 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: but like you light years from where you were your 314 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: first like brou come to the table having fun. Hit 315 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 4: you one of them and then you might not hear 316 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: two words from the rest of dinner. 317 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: Bro, like he chilling like. 318 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 4: And that was like I remember that was a task 319 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: getting you to start coming out bro. Hit the West 320 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 4: Side Highway grass nigga dies and be up by the 321 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 4: white castles. 322 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 3: Are one of them, and he up top chilling fat nah. Man. 323 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: I think the best thing for me was coming out 324 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: in New York. Once I did that, like I got 325 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: around the city, I started popping up with Brooklyn queens 326 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: everywhere spot, feeling the city, feeling the love. 327 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, that's what's up. So how did you get 328 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: in to the vegan stuff? Man? Like how did that 329 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: come about? Like? 330 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: Because I remember you think back, remember we came this 331 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: is when I was with the Pistons. We came through 332 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: den but I came through the apartment and take with you, 333 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: and he had all kinds of South looking like, man. 334 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 6: This boy, like what you got going on up in 335 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: here with like my man riding bikes to it from 336 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 6: practice and stuff. He got like he got all types 337 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 6: of extra Like you started taking like your body like 338 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 6: crazy serious, like what made you start doing that? 339 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: And like changing your habits and stuff. 340 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: I think when I loved New York and I went 341 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: to Denver and I started having all the injuries and 342 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: shit trying to figure out. I'm like, damn working hard, 343 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: taking care of my body. I don't know what's going on. 344 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: So I was talking to this one lady and she 345 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: was like, man, you should try being veg you know 346 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's good, like with inflammation in your 347 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: body and recovering and shit. 348 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: So I tried it out. 349 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: And that two years I had I had just had 350 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: hip surgery, right, I remember that, and I was out 351 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: for the season. So I started like right around that time, 352 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: and then I came back. It's like I hit the 353 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: ground running like I never had the surgery. I had 354 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: one of my best years. So I was like, I'm 355 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: gonna keep doing it, but that shi is just so 356 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: hard to do. I did it for two years. Ships 357 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: just so hard to do consistently. While you're playing traveling 358 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: team gotta get you special meals and you laying, you 359 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: gotta go find something to eat. 360 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: They might be one in the morning. You know, vegan 361 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: spots open one of them. 362 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: I ain't cooking, so what you so so like, what 363 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: is like, what is a meal playing for you? 364 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: Look like. I was actually rehabbing out here in La 365 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: so you know, here's easy. 366 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: Everywhere you go it's vegan spots. So it was easy 367 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: when out here in Denver too, But on the road 368 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: I had to find like Peter or whatever. Dad, we 369 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: had got into a little big thing. Well they got 370 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: into a big thing. Rather, I was fishing and it 371 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: got like a million some hits on ESPN. I had 372 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: caught a big ass fish and I seen a three 373 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: pound They hit me like I thought you was big, 374 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I ain't eating not just I had 375 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: to go fishing, like to fishounds fish. 376 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: That was going crazy on me. 377 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, I just met I just met 378 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: with them, so you know, see what was good. And 379 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: they told me about this app called Happy Cow. So 380 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: every city you go to, it is pretty much you know, 381 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: they gotta show all the vegan spots in every city. 382 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: So that was like my thing. That's that's dope. I 383 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: got two years of that. 384 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I can't keep doing this right now. 385 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: I got to be least pascatarian or something. Time I'm 386 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: done hooping and I go back. 387 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So I know you've been to a few teams 388 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: how you and you had injuries. I know how hard 389 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: it is to just continue with the injuries and you 390 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: be down to yourself, like man, I can't especially being 391 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: out for a whole season. 392 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: The fact I felt when you did the playership in 393 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: your article? That was the best I told Chris, that 394 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: was the best one I read. 395 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Just y'all too. You know 396 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You can relate more. You know what 397 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 398 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: Then having the injuries and shit, I know you had 399 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: the injuries and you was out and you said you 400 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: at the crib just like damn. I felt like that too. 401 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: I went out the league. But I'm at the crib 402 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: for the whole year. You ain't hooping, so people ain't 403 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: really checking for you. And I'm in Denver, I'm at 404 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: the crib like damn. So I'm just like trying to 405 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: find shit. The past time I started reading books. I 406 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: ain't never read books. I'm reading books just like trying 407 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: to soak up knowledge, saying doing other shit, keep my 408 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: mind off of it. That was the type of ship's 409 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: plenty of times. I had two hip surgeries. Both times 410 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: like damn, I don't even know when you first come back. 411 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: You ain't moving, the saying you're hurting every day. 412 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, might be dying. It might be right then. 413 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: Like the first I had my first surgery, like that's 414 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: when I was still youngest. I'm like that, I ain't 415 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: even made that much bread. I'm like, I don't know 416 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do. 417 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, contracts, contract time come up. You want to perform 418 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: and you want to show that you worked everything, and 419 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: pressure just be. 420 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: Up on you. Yeah, pressure that ship. 421 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 5: That's hard for you to kind of fight that off. 422 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: And you know, like being in your situation, the only 423 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: pressure in your family kind of doing that. 424 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: So people don't really understand, like you're playing ball. 425 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: You should be happy, you know what I'm saying, Like 426 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: that's everybody there, Like I wish I. 427 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: Was doing that. You want to be one man, right. 428 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: That's what's up though, Like you started, so you start 429 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: reading books, you got in the art like brother and grew. 430 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He didn't. 431 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: He didn't super grew, like just from your whole Instagram 432 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: being coming to chilling with you, vibing with y'all. Like, Okay, 433 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: I'm like Wilson, you know what I'm saying, You didn't 434 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: kind of spread out a little bit. 435 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta find yourself, and shit, ain't no 436 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: better way than going to a slower paced city like 437 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: Demnver come from New York the injuries and shit, you 438 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: ain't in all the choice about to find yourself and 439 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 2: see what you like and try to figure that out. 440 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Being in the NBA, you get to see the world, 441 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: you get to see coaches, you know where we're from. 442 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: You kind of you. 443 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: Gotta gotta be hard, or you gotta be tough and 444 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: stuff like that, or you can't like art, you can't 445 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: like going to the ballet or just do certain stuff. 446 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: And when you get kids, that kind of soften you 447 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: up a little bit more. What's your experience for coming 448 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: from some place like that? And then get to see 449 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: the world and be like, man, it's beautiful everywhere. 450 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 3: Man, that ship is weird. 451 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 2: Because when you first start doing little shit, even when 452 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: bro like man, let's go. I'm in the first time 453 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: hung out when we went to the club, I'm like, 454 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: I ain't never seen no shit like that. 455 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: Too weird. 456 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I don't know, it's overwhelmen, I ain't 457 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: feeling this. And I'm like, man, everybody talking and just 458 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: hugged and I'm straight the question you asked, just traveling 459 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: like seeing like different shit, I'm like, man, shit actually 460 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: ain't bad. Like you know, you started getting too different things. 461 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: When I first went home, I started making my homeboys 462 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: do all different types. 463 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: She's like, man, I don't want to do this. 464 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: But after a while people be loving and like, go 465 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: go to movies, watch Harry Potter, go to a Broadway show, 466 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: go here, go travel here, take your friends like that 467 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: you on the trip, man, make them try new food 468 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 2: like that being locked up, just came home or whatever. 469 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: Selling dog. You know what I'm saying. 470 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: From the crib on West Side Chicago, I got with 471 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: me like so it's like you're kind of helping, Like 472 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 473 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: Broad their rise and they take that back to their kids. 474 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Shit like that, So showing 475 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: something different, some people soak it up, some people don't. 476 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: Some people go right back to what they was doing. 477 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, I think it's good, 478 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I say, I at 479 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 2: least gave them something. 480 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're paying for it. Yeah, trying to show them something. 481 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: How was it for you when you went over to China? 482 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: Oh? 483 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: Man, that shit was a whole like different experience because 484 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: all nice and then it's two different things. Like that's 485 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: probably the first time I was like, damn, Like it's 486 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: a blessing just to be like with all the shit 487 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: going on over here in America, just being over there 488 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 2: in the communist country, like they can't get on certain 489 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: websites Instagram, social media, YouTube, and ship. That's like a 490 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: crime over there, Like you got to have a special 491 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: thing to get on it so they can block it out. 492 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: So you can get on YouTube and Instagram and shit 493 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: like that, just like from food. 494 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: To whatever it is. Like when I was there, like 495 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: they really do like fuck with dogs and all that shit. 496 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: But I mean they don't like trick you, Like they're like, 497 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: this is what it is, you know what I'm saying, 498 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: But you tried. 499 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 5: It what you eat over there? 500 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 2: Like I was eating, like you know what we eat 501 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: over here, Like you be from broccoli, you know what 502 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm saying. The duck like that. So they may shot. 503 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: And I was at the j W so they had 504 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: American broadcasts and brunch and shit like that. But like 505 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: when I go to the the Chinese restaurants, you know, 506 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: I eat like just the normal ship. 507 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: I wasn't trying nothing crazy over there. 508 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: Steff actually when he was you know, he was over 509 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: there and I got this so he put me onto 510 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: an Italian restaurant that was over there that was pretty good. 511 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: So I was good. 512 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: I was in a decent city and I was like 513 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: an hour away from Shane. 514 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 3: How I was going there on my days off. So 515 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 3: I was just really just chilling straight up. That's what's up. 516 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: I know. That was a crazy experience. 517 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: And once I figured like my way around, like I 518 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: was good. Like the first month, I'm like, man, I 519 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: can't do it. But like after I figured my way around, 520 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: then Shane ho got everything like this American now, so 521 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm in more. 522 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: Than so I'm going here, going And they had they 523 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: had two over there in the club a little bit 524 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: what's up? So I had my homework with me a 525 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: little there. So it was good. How long he was 526 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: over there, I. 527 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: Went over there like they paid me extra go early. 528 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: So I was over there like seven months, almost. 529 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: Over a minute. That was doing the lockout, doing the lockout. 530 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: Then they lifted the lockout and I had to stay 531 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: and there they made it. 532 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: They made everybody stay left and everybody had to stay. 533 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn got out of there. For facts. I 534 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: was surprised as he even came in the first place. 535 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 4: I was too. To be honest, I was surprised. I 536 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: mean that whole that whole time was real. 537 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: Was weird, you know what I'm saying. There was a 538 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: lot of you know what I'm saying people only one 539 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: at the time. He was the only super Bell you know. 540 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: Everybody else was like me j R. Aaron Brooks like that, 541 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: Gerald Green. Yeah, I was a proud when he said 542 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: he was coming in the city. You went to it trash. 543 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: He was over there, like you know, there were enough 544 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: time difference over there, so if you're on one side, 545 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: it's the same time. So we flew over there were 546 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: laying like around three of folks. I already pitched dark. 547 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, you're terrible. As it's close 548 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: to Afghanistan. So it's like when you watch the old 549 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: Kong Fu movies and shit with the dudes and shit 550 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: look like that. 551 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: The Wilson that came into the league, the young Wilson 552 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 4: that was you know, kind of in your own zone. 553 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: You didn't really do too much, you know, you was 554 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: cautious of people and stuff like that. To now you 555 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: got all these different worldly experiences, You into different things 556 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: that you probably growing up never thought coming from Ben Holler, like, 557 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be doing a B and C at this 558 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: point when I get this old. 559 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: So so, how did you get from point A to 560 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: point B? Man? 561 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: I think just over time, just mess on many people, 562 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: and I play with the Knicks and from traveling, you 563 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, hooping and all that. I think, 564 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: just trying different stuff, like if I'm in a new city, 565 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 2: just trying different food, or if I get invited here, 566 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: just you know what I'm saying, take the time just 567 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: to go and you know what I'm saying, learning or experience. 568 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: You know, the first time I went to an orchestra, 569 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: I was invited and I was like, and I think 570 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 2: they was playing like Beaeto whenever I never and I 571 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: knew heard Beay told me for like the name, but 572 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: I never really knew. 573 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: What it was. I don't know if it was a 574 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: guy or a group. You know what I'm saying. I 575 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: never knew And the orchestra they was playing. 576 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: Beeto and I'm like the same bag, Like you know 577 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, just looking around the room and just 578 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: I could see how they get the vibe, like how 579 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: we listen to like your favorite rap or your favorite 580 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 2: song or artists, and they had that same type of vibeing. 581 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: They probably wentn't dancing like we danced a viobing the head, 582 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: but they had a vibe they was enjoying it. I'm 583 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: like this in the same bag, you know what I'm saying. 584 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: So I started like going to different shows. I just 585 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: went to one a couple of weeks ago. I went 586 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: to a guy I forget his name, but he did 587 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: like the soundtrack for like Star Wars and Indiana Jones. 588 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: And he had to show in Chicago, matter of fact, 589 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: and I had my homeboy from out West and the 590 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: West side of Chicago. You know what I'm saying. It 591 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: was on you know on that too. You know what 592 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying. He ain't you know, he's like forty, he 593 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: ain't never been. And I'm like, man, go this with me. 594 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: Like for what I'm like, Man, you would like Hi, 595 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, just go. He had a great time, 596 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Screen It was good for 597 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: him too, because his son had just got killed, you 598 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, drive by a few weeks before that, 599 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it was something that 600 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: he could do to get his mind off that, you 601 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 602 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: That's what's up. 603 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: You know, you've been from a small town and uh, 604 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, you go back and you see people that 605 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: haven't traveled for like where I'm from, the fardest people 606 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: has been as Chicago and Memphis, which is like four 607 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: hours away Memphis. Yeah, so when you go back home 608 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: in just the way you know, people ain't seen the 609 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: world how you've seen the world, and like you experienced 610 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: more like you say, fools and scenery and everything, and 611 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: you go back home and you hear them people that 612 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: you'd like, man, y'all still think that way because y'all 613 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: ain't seeing nothing. 614 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, you know what I mean. 615 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: I used to think like people used to tell me 616 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: I was like man looking down on me. Like you 617 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I ain't realize like people just 618 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: trying to like broaden my horizon, get. 619 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 3: Me into different ship. 620 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 2: When I be sitting at my grandma house and we 621 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: be sitting on the porch, and I'll be hearing something 622 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: of my family and my homeboys, and I'm like, damn, 623 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: that's crazy because they ain't. 624 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: Really got nothing in common no more. 625 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: But it's like they don't even know no better, Like 626 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: they just speaking on what they know and what they 627 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: seeing because they ain't been nowhere when they experienced nothing. 628 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: And it ain't even sometimes they ain't even they fought though, 629 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: because you got people it's like half and half. You 630 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: got people that just don't want to do nothing else. 631 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: But then you got people don't even know how to 632 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: if they wanted to, you know what I'm saying, because 633 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: it ain't no resources. You know what I'm saying, they 634 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: ain't got They ain't got no money. 635 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: They even experienced that. You know what I'm saying. 636 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: The only thing they can experience is like social media 637 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: and you know, media just pumping into certain ship like 638 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: they on't gonna show you so much insane with the 639 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: reality TV. So all they see is like certain ships. 640 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: So they ain't even got no outlet to even think. 641 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Different, to do different. Yeah, all they scared too scared. 642 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: I remember that's coming to La. It was my first 643 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: time ever being to La. 644 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 5: Became to La. 645 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: Cheesecake factory was right by by house where we was at, 646 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: So my first time ever being a cheesecake factor. And 647 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: like you said, you don't know no better. So for 648 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: the p so Q was in there. He hadn't been 649 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: in cheesecake before. He was like, Yeah, I'm finna get 650 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: some spinach chartie choke dip. 651 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm like, spinish you see the menu 652 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: or to spin it? 653 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Like it just it just 654 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: threw me off. 655 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, let me get the popcorn shrimp, Let 656 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: me get some FENNI cheina afraid of you know what 657 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 658 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: So you ordered? 659 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: He was like, man, just try it. So I tried it. 660 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about for at least a decade straight. Every 661 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: time I went to cheesecake factory, the first thing I 662 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: was ordered with spinis charge choke dep you know, just 663 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: broadened my taste. 664 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: But and stuff like that. And you know, people where 665 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 5: from they don't know it. 666 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: Be the simple things. Man, I'm telling you. 667 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling my homeboy, but if I take you Overseas, 668 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna eat nothing, right, Don't eat. 669 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: Nothing that's hilarious. 670 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: Would be like that, though I don't even know you 671 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: remember men, I brought my homeboy CC after New York 672 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: one time we went out to eat me and you, 673 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: him and Rio. 674 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: He ain't really know the me and you. He just 675 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: looking at it. 676 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: I can look at his face. He don't even know 677 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: what the order. So everybody order and drink, and so 678 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 2: he like, I'm had. He told her, wait, I'm had. 679 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: That's what you say. You don't know the name. So 680 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: they brought it out. 681 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: It was like a girl drink looking like that. I 682 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: thought you was from. That is priceless, man. 683 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: So when you was coming up, who did you like? 684 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 5: Patting your game? 685 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: After my whole I got love hate damn who Like 686 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: it's crazy because I watched certain players, But i'd be 687 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 2: out my grandma. She that's who really loved ball. My 688 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: grandma loved the Bulls. So she watched basketball faithfully. So 689 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: when I come home, she'd be already got a game. 690 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: Even to this day, she knows all the stats, all 691 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: the players. So she talked about his basketball. Sometimes I'd 692 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: be at the like I'm asleep. 693 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: I don't want. 694 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: To question that. I know all you can ask about 695 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. She don't know everything. It could be Lebron. 696 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: She gonna know who hurts. She don't know. 697 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: When I was growing up, she she loved who. So 698 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: she loves Jordan. So I come home, she already watching 699 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: the game. That's how I got into the game. I'd 700 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: be outside playing ball, but I'd never really be in 701 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: the crib washing it that much like that. So I 702 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: just was kind of like hooping and I kind of 703 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: I was late blooming, so like I never like patting 704 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: my game. I like players, but I never was like 705 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: trying to be like a player to take side hooping, like. 706 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 5: I try to take something from Yeah. 707 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: I ain't do that until I got older. 708 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: So when when you got older, who was the person 709 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: he was? Like, Man, I see something in him that 710 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: I could see myself. 711 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: I ain't in front. 712 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: It's the most uncommon thing, but I like Jamal Mashburn. 713 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: I thought he was so cold for whatever reason, I 714 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: just thought he was. I just thought he was better 715 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: than area. I'm like, I love. 716 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: He still he went athletic or nothing like that no more? 717 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: And was I'm talking about one game busting my ass 718 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: word Like Jamal Masburn one of my favorite players too 719 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: coming up. 720 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 5: I watched his career coming up like. 721 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: He was a dog dog and if he went and 722 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: got hurt like later on, where he still could have 723 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: kept some a little bit of that athlete of the 724 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: village man killing even. 725 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: More I liked him a lot. I liked Ghill them too. 726 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: Probably was was it? And then like Scottie because like 727 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 2: I played both sides, no offense. 728 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was kind of like, yeah, that's one thing 729 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: I really liked about your game. 730 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: Off the rip. 731 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: I've seen how you play defense and offense, like you 732 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: compete on both sides of the ball. 733 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: A lot of people don't do that. I was the 734 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: player like that. 735 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: My defense was way ahead of this time before it's 736 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: caught up. I was eighteen years old coming straight out 737 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: of high school, and I was going the best player. 738 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 5: They brought me off the bench to guard. 739 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: The Kobe's the guard nets, and I'm eighteen straight out 740 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: of high school. So for that, that's like a big achievement. 741 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: That made me feel like I was like validated. 742 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, nah facts, And like you said before your time 743 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: to go from Kobe to guardnet, Yeah, that's tough. 744 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 4: So you played both basically in both generations. Before was 745 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 4: this whole three pointer. It was like, you know, five 746 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 4: man then four out guys like you're basically a four 747 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: man now. You know you played three and four, but 748 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: you I've seen you play a lot of four and 749 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: you know all of the rules are going against the 750 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 4: defenders and stuff like that. What you feel about playing 751 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: in both climates went from where it was kind of 752 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 4: like you don't really shoot three, now like shoot all 753 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: the threes you want to shoot. 754 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: That's the best thing. 755 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: It was crazy for I never really shot threes when 756 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: I first got in the league. You know, it's like 757 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: Zekra's old school. So we had Zebra at the power 758 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: forward and any of the five, so it was like 759 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: more traditional, you know what I mean. And the next 760 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: year they fire. We got d'An Toni. He used to 761 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: take me out the game for not shooting three, like 762 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: you gotta shoot it. That's really how I started shooting 763 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: threes like that. But to answer your question, I think 764 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: I like the evolution of the game. Just from a 765 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: fan standpoint, it's, you know, it's exciting to watch. You know, 766 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: you watch a Steph who really ain't he a deep 767 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: miles he and Lebron, He like a regular dude walking 768 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: down the street. If you ain't know that was tough, 769 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't even think maybe he's a hoop, you know what 770 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm saying. But to see him go out there, let's 771 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: go forty to shoot from half THEMN to half court. 772 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: That shouldn't make. 773 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: He he more like relatable to the average NBA. 774 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: Fan than a Lebron or Vince Card. You know what 775 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 776 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, a guy who play a 777 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: butter rim So I like, like, I love it from 778 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: that standpoint, but just defensively, it's tough. 779 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta guard Katie. You can't really touch 780 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: him or like, and don't see James going to the 781 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: rams like he hits you first. I like it. 782 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: I mean for him, you know what I'm saying. It's 783 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: good for him the way he use it, But he 784 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: hits you first. Then you get up on him. They 785 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: call a file for the slightest touch. It's like, that's 786 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 2: that's tough for anybody, you know what I'm saying, especially 787 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: if you're defender. 788 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: Like that's how you make your money. Yeah, that's how 789 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: you make your money. 790 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: So right now, with Harden doing what he does, that's 791 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: just amazing. I tell people all the time, you know, 792 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: that's like the hardest conversation right now. 793 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: How would you go on and what would you do? Care? 794 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 4: I say, first, I'm a foul them real good and hard, 795 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know, cause clearly all of the 796 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 4: defensive schemes, all the patterns, whatever people been doing, it 797 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: ain't been working. 798 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: You now, if you follow them all right, Dann, it 799 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: might get kicked out the game. I might have to. 800 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 4: I might have to do that though, Like I'm gonna 801 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: have to give him one to really, like you're not 802 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: about to really just he be embarrassing these people by 803 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 4: step back. 804 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: Then they letting him travel. 805 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: Now he could do a double step back to say 806 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 4: legal and you see. 807 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: It, like come on, but like I'm you don't seen 808 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 3: me do it. I'm gonna have to get me one. 809 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to and then let him know, Yeah, 810 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here all night, just like you going 811 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: for fifty. 812 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to use all six of these real 813 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 4: hard on you and hope that like at some point 814 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: he like, all right, I don't want to hit me 815 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 4: no more. I'm gonna chill, like hopefully I'm gonna pray 816 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: on that. Because all of this games and everything, it 817 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: ain't really nothing. 818 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: We literally did everything you do, not on the ball, shadow. 819 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: And shadow and pressing full court, put different defenders on 820 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: his crazy. He still had thirty seven, but it was 821 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: the way he got his thirty seven though. 822 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: It was tough ye to back and that's all you 823 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: can ask for to get a win like that, because 824 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: in this league, man, people are so good. 825 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 5: You can't stop. 826 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's hard to be with the 827 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: new rules. Is defender. 828 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: To be a one on one defender, you can't. You 829 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: gotta have a good defensive team. You gotta have people 830 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: behind you. 831 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 5: That's why I like what Corey Brewer was doing. 832 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Like I'll be seeing other teams just let him take 833 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: the ball out and dribble down court. And I'm like, no, 834 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm finna let him use every inch of energy he 835 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: got in his body. 836 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 5: Feel Spin Movie all the way down. 837 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give you so Yeah, I'm gonna give 838 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: him so much where you're gonna have to use so 839 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: much energy just to slow you down a little bit. 840 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: To get you to slow down, I trying to get 841 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: an offense where you got to catch your breath to 842 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: pass it off. 843 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: I've been watching. 844 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, d I want to see how you're gonna 845 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: be by time the playoffs come. They should be straight 846 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: with Chris Party. I mean, really, you could argue if 847 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: you didn't get hurt. 848 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: Last year they might have won, you know. 849 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 4: I mean for me, that's the only thing he got left, 850 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: like because you know last year he stepped up to me. 851 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 4: I want to see him go crazy in the playoffs. 852 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 4: That's the only thing he has done to me. Like 853 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: is because early in the career and he was missing it. Okay, 854 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: see when they got to the finals and then the 855 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: other series. You know, it's been questions. But like last year, 856 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 4: I felt like he was there. I felt like he 857 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: was he was hooping, But like I want to see 858 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: him go, like how he going bananas right now? Like 859 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 4: nobody I want to see him do this in the 860 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 4: playoffs because nobody still can't guard you. 861 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: I know it's different, but still I think Chris Paul 862 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: being in help a lot. I think it's not it's 863 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: nothing with this game. I think he just be so 864 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: tired by trying the playoffs come because every do everything. 865 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: He's the point guard on the bucket. Yeah, you gotta win, 866 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You gotta do it. 867 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: You play the game the right way all the time. 868 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: You don't over shoot the ball. You know, even the 869 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: games that you have good games, your field goal percentage 870 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: be high. You'll go like ten to thirteen or something 871 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: like that and have like twenty six or something like that. 872 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: So like that's how I used to play the game. 873 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: I never just overshot the ball. 874 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with social media and sh like that, 875 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: if you play a game and you two for three, four. 876 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: For five, here, like damn, what's going on? 877 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 2: Like I might have a game where I got twenty 878 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: next game, I might have like five. 879 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: But you know, so like, oh man, you trash, You're terrible. 880 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 3: I'm like, we won. I have five. 881 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 5: Like, but them people that don't see the little thing exactly. 882 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: What you do, Like you don't know the real value 883 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: you might have swung three times to get to that 884 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: person to shoot the rock. 885 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 886 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: It's a lot of little details and the stuff that 887 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: people just don't appreciate that really don't know the game, Like. 888 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: The fact social media made the world smaller, made keeps 889 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: man shorter, like and everybody a professional popular, Like you 890 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: got all these people like with basketball now you got 891 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: everybody running basketball in the media, never was good or never. 892 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: Played, they got an opinion. 893 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: You got people in analytics that have brought that to 894 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: the game now, like a big high school hate analytics. 895 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: You can just like you can manipulate the numbers to 896 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 2: make it. You know what I'm saying, Like. 897 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 3: Oh, he shoots sixty percent, he's going right, he only 898 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: shoot fifty. 899 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: I'm still about this whole plus. 900 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 3: What ever played, I'm like, I never played. 901 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody who wasn't players, Like, I don't know, It's 902 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: just like it's. 903 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: A game of basketball, just different. 904 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: I look at it from that standpoint, like damn, Like 905 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: it's really people in the game running the game, and 906 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: I don't know the game. 907 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: I know you played for a lot of coaches. I 908 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: played for a lot of coaches, and it's hard to 909 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: get a rhythm. Some coaches really don't believe in you, 910 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: and some like they believe in you, And it's hard 911 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: to catch the rhythm with coaches. 912 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: I think I've been pretty like blessed far as like 913 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 2: having coaches that liked me. And I went from Isaiah 914 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: who drafted me and he had a lot of best 915 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 2: dance I ain't play much, but I had D'Ann Tony 916 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: Why like my start and my best years I had 917 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: with him, And I went straight from him to George 918 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: Carl who played kind of similar style of basketball. So 919 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: I always had good coaches, always played for guys that 920 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: believed in me. 921 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: It's called it. 922 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: Shoot past driven, shoot past drive bar three. 923 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: And speak speaking of that, like, you know you played 924 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 4: in Denver. I saw he had you a you know, 925 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 4: a dope little video tribute they showed. They showed the 926 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 4: guy some love. I was, I was doing a show 927 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 4: and I got a chance to see it. I was 928 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 4: really happy for you see him showing you some love 929 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 4: and true Wilson fashion. 930 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 3: He was just like, I was like, did he even 931 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 3: watch the video? They played? And you know they do 932 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: that now. 933 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: I didn't know, Like peoples asking me, I'm like, I 934 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: don't know what they're gonna do. 935 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: So I wasn't even expecting no video. 936 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, I appreciate it for shoving 937 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 2: the fans show love. So I definitely appreciate it because 938 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: I had some years with it. They don't want me there, 939 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: I ain't want to be there, Yeah, I mean, so 940 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: it was cool. 941 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that had to be a good feeling. 942 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 4: I was like, I felt good for you seeing it 943 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 4: when I was watching, Like, you know, eight years a 944 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 4: long time to be in one place, and you know 945 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like you say it's not always gonna 946 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: be good or bad, but you know you was doing 947 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 4: your best and you gave your you know what I'm saying. 948 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 4: I was glad to see them show appreciation for that. 949 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: That's what downs over there. But I definitely a super 950 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: grateful for that time I was there. 951 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: That's what's up. 952 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: What's the biggest purchase that you bought when you was like, dang, 953 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: I just paid that much money for that. 954 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 3: We all got something crazy, bro, I ain't. That's the thing. 955 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: I ain't really got nothing crazy. It's just like man 956 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: I used to do, like just silly ship. I think 957 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: the silliest ship I've done. Like when I first got 958 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: some bread, I went to the stove, like to the 959 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: corner store. 960 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 3: I had to order a whole bunch of bottles of crystal. 961 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 2: Had little dudes I used to make skip with me 962 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: ands just we I got a whole bunch of bikes 963 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 2: from one mart. 964 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 3: We just riding bike through the neighborhood. 965 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 2: We all got bot crystal, riding around the bikes drinking crystals. 966 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 3: So I'm riding the projects. We just ride through the projects. 967 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 3: But after you got drafted, got money. Here we ride 968 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: through Highland it's called Hohland Project. 969 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: We drinking crystal with bikes and the silliest ship I 970 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: probably have done. I probably had about twenty of them. 971 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 3: Nice. 972 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 4: That's prices right there now that I ain't heard one 973 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 4: like right. 974 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 3: Up, I definitely heard one like that. 975 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: I bought my mom a Rolex and a Lincoln LS. 976 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: I just told her car like a month before I 977 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: got drafted. 978 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: Remember, supposed to drive a car. 979 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: And my homeboys calling me, and I was like, man, 980 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: I'm finna just take the car, run and grab him 981 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: and just come. 982 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: Right back to the crib. 983 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 5: My mama like going on a field trip or something. 984 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: So I'm going and I see the car kind of 985 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: coming through the ship through the houses. So I'm driving. 986 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm looking ahead of me. I'm like, yeah, 987 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't got to stop sign. I look and see 988 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: his stop sign, so I'm like, I know he gonna stop, 989 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: So man, I keep on going. Man he like fishbone 990 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: me like boom right in the middle. I hopped in 991 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: my homeboy laugh. It's a before the draft like I 992 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: hopped in my homeboy laud. It's like slow motion like 993 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 1: I was like the matrix. I hopped in my homeboy lap. 994 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Then I got home in my body was so weak. 995 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: I just slept for like twelve hours. My mama was 996 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: scared as she was mad too. 997 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 5: She was scared. 998 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: I told her a car so soon as I got 999 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: a liquor bread. I think we got like eighty thousand 1000 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: dollars off trading cards. I went about my mama liking 1001 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: that list and a ten thousand dollars Rowly. Yeah, before 1002 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: I even bought myself anything. Just yeah, let me get 1003 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: you this right quick. That Lincoln lest was hard bad. 1004 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 3: I should have got my homework car message car. When 1005 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 3: I was in Chicago, you got any stories like that? 1006 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 3: Were like? 1007 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 4: I got an incident we out in Miami, kicking it 1008 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 4: on jet Skis. 1009 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 3: I thought my life was over. 1010 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 4: I thought all I saw it was like a life flag. 1011 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 4: And no Regieston gets hurt on the Jazz accident. I'm like, 1012 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 4: I got man totally jet ski I was furious limping home, 1013 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 4: just like you said, not not show what's going on. 1014 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 4: I just went to the hotel, went to sleep. The 1015 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 4: whole trip was over for me, had like three d 1016 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 4: It was dead for me. I was just salty, sitting 1017 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 4: in the room, not sure if I was really hurt 1018 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 4: or not. I didn't want to say nothing to my agent. 1019 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 4: My agent right there Miami, I ain't telling him nothing. 1020 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, I'm await, I gotta be so for 1021 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 4: a little long before I stay something to jail. 1022 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 2: I ain't had one of them before the league, but 1023 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: I had one doing the league, just a couple of 1024 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: summers ago out the something. I was rehaving my health. 1025 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm gonna take my fan. I never 1026 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: took my family, know what, like just my whole family. 1027 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: So it was me, my aunt, my nieces, well they 1028 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: really my cousin, but my uncles and aunts. 1029 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 3: I grew up my grandma, so like my brothers and sisters. 1030 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 3: So it was my cousins, like they're younger than me. 1031 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: It's like four of them, my aunt, my dad, his girl, 1032 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 2: like four of my homeboys, my kids. So we went 1033 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 2: down there. We went to Cabo. We weren't in the house, 1034 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 2: went to Cabo. So every day we did like something different. 1035 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: One of the days we went ziplining. Ziplining, so I 1036 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: see bungee jumping, I tell my humblether, just go bunge 1037 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,959 Speaker 2: jumping and we're done doing the zipline He's like cool 1038 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: you seriously you with that. So we're walking up to 1039 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: the bungee jump spot where where you go uh with 1040 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: the catapulty take you up, like take you up over the. 1041 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 4: Cane Michigan to jump out and do a bungee I'm 1042 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 4: like what. 1043 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: Everybody like, you're crazy. Most people like I ain't even 1044 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: doing it. My antient and like you trip whatever my 1045 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: humble like you do with me. So we get over 1046 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: there like no, I ain't doing it. So I'm like 1047 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going ahead and do it. I ain't 1048 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: never been here. I'm just gonna go ahead and do it. 1049 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 2: I can say I went bungee jump. It's crazy, just 1050 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: me and two other little kids that they ain't with me, 1051 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: two white kids. They had to be like ten and 1052 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: like twelve to the brothers and sisters. So it's just 1053 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 2: me and them two and there structures and ship. So 1054 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: we go up on the catapult. They both go first. 1055 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm like they do. I got it. So it was 1056 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: like it was a glass bottom so you could see 1057 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: out the bottom. 1058 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 3: It's high as hell when you got up there, so 1059 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 3: the glass bottom didn't like you. 1060 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: It was sticking sales like you you could tell one 1061 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 2: gonna break. But they had a veil coat strip. You're 1062 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: supposed to stand on the veil coast trip and just 1063 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 2: jump straight out. I hoop, so I get. I gathered myself. 1064 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 2: I took a step back, so I slipped on the glass. 1065 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 3: I fell out. I got the video on my phone 1066 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 3: after this over. I fell out, right, Come on, bro, 1067 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: come on, I just have my haretory. I just missed 1068 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 3: the whole season. I fell out. It was it was cool. 1069 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 3: It was like it was uncomfortable because I fell out. 1070 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: I'm danglar well. I ain't even realized when I got. 1071 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 2: When I finished and ship now trying to act cool. 1072 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: They ain't even my family why they didn't even know 1073 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: I fell out. Now I'm just how to act cool. 1074 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: I looked down at my knee and ship my knee 1075 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 2: about this big. I bummed my knee on the metal 1076 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 2: part when I fell out. 1077 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 3: I got. 1078 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 2: I still got the dinner. My knee right now, to 1079 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 2: this day, my knee so big. 1080 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 3: I can't walk in that. So I'm living like it 1081 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: was wrong. I think I'm sorry from the zip line right. 1082 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 3: So I text Andy. These work for the niggas. 1083 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: I text Andy right away, like the think my curl. 1084 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: I think I fucked my knee up. I got big 1085 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 2: ass dinner, my knee, my knees fall. 1086 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. I iced it. 1087 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 2: I've been laying as I got back two days later. Whatever, 1088 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: it just went down, stop hurting, went down, Still had 1089 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 2: the dinner. My knee went back to rehab. Never nothing, 1090 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: never happened. Still got the dinner. 1091 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 3: My knee to this day, they got that strong, They 1092 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 3: got that strong. I bet you ain't gonna bungee jumping. 1093 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 2: Man, come on, scary shit. Ever, I didn't even know 1094 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 2: how I fucked up my knee because I fell out. 1095 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 3: I'm like dreaming was going to You didn't know nothing 1096 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 3: until you got down and life was okay. Like what 1097 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 3: are you jumping on? Never do no ship like this? Like, man, 1098 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 3: I hear my grandma now, like what was you even thinking? 1099 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 3: You from being harbor made it out of there. You're 1100 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: gonna go jump off for Cliff for talking about bungee 1101 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 3: jumping man, Come on, bro yo. 1102 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 4: So I got a question as far as like cultural impact, 1103 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 4: who you think had the biggest cultural impact between AI 1104 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 4: and Lebron. 1105 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 3: It is it's great. I think social media Lebron the 1106 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 3: height of social media, like. 1107 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 5: At this age, like it'll it'll look like Lebron. But 1108 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 5: I don't think AI get the props for what he did, 1109 00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 5: like how he moved. 1110 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 3: It's more it's this day and age. 1111 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 4: I think it's hard to try and you know, compare 1112 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 4: because it's so much more pushing everything that's out there, 1113 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 4: so much more access and you know, you can push 1114 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 4: whatever message you're trying to do so much easiert But 1115 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 4: like AI, like everybody didn't know that he was sending 1116 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 4: shoes to the prisons and stuff like that and. 1117 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 3: Looking out and he had the hood and he still got. 1118 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 4: The Hood line like he got hood love forever, like 1119 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 4: they gonna AI is gonna forever be the goat. He 1120 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 4: gonna fever get that special love that everybody. 1121 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 3: Can't and nobody gonna talk about that. You can't replicate 1122 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 3: what he went through. 1123 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 4: And you know, his trials and tribulations that made him 1124 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 4: who he was, and the things that he stood for 1125 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 4: and that he stood against, and right or wrong or 1126 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 4: whatever you want to say, all of those things add 1127 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 4: up to what he is and the icon that he 1128 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 4: is and you can't just replicate that. 1129 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go AI too, because it was it wasn't intentional, 1130 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 2: like he was just being himself. He ain't no machine 1131 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: behind him pushing like social media, pushing all these different avenues. 1132 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 3: I think he was just being and stuff. It was 1133 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 3: just like natural. He was like what I'm gonna whatever 1134 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do today, that's what I'm gonna do. 1135 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: Like the way he dressed, the way he spoke, and 1136 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 2: I ain't going to practice whatever it was. It wasn't 1137 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: even intentionally. He was just like being himself and it became. 1138 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 4: Like I kind of then It's kind of like when 1139 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 4: Lebron came in. It was kind of like at seventeen, 1140 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 4: he was a chosen one, you know what I'm saying, 1141 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 4: So he had to he had to be kind of 1142 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 4: tactful and do things perfect and do things that he 1143 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 4: was you know what I'm saying. Like he had to 1144 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 4: like you said, he had a whole machine that was 1145 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 4: pushing them, and he had a game plan like AI 1146 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 4: was had been in jail, had a second chance and stuff. 1147 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 4: So it was just like it was up for grass 1148 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 4: for him, like you said, he was really just doing him. 1149 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 3: I think Bron did a good job of making moves 1150 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 3: like jay Z. Oh, yes, he like chess moves, you 1151 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And y'all like pop, you know 1152 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like emotional, you know what I'm saying. Now, 1153 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: just doing living my life. 1154 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 2: You know. 1155 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 1: But ain't nobody gonna when they mentioned when they mentioned AI, 1156 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna talk about this stuff? He really was 1157 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: doing like like you said, sent the shoes to the 1158 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 1: prison and doing the stuff in the hood. 1159 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 5: I guarantee AI. 1160 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 3: And to spend millions of dollars. Oh, they don't never 1161 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 3: say nothing about that on the hood. 1162 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: And this ain't this ain't the millions of dollars that 1163 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He was doing stuff and getting the 1164 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: tax right off one and all that I'm talking about 1165 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: cold cash that. 1166 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 5: He was putting into hoods and places he was at 1167 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 5: places he. 1168 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: Played stuff like that that they would never talk about 1169 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: when you hear all Ives's name, But they always want 1170 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: to talk about all the other stuff. 1171 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 3: But he but he moves the culture. 1172 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 4: What's important to be said about that too, is though, 1173 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 4: like just like how you said, poking jay Z, like 1174 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 4: jay needed Pop without Pop coming before him and doing 1175 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 4: all that. JA ain't gonna know what not to do 1176 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, well, how to make 1177 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 4: them chest move. That's the same thing for Lebron. Like 1178 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 4: Lebron get to look at Big bro Ai who embraced 1179 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 4: him on that journey too, and say like all right, 1180 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 4: I could learn from all of these different things. 1181 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 3: So like, you know what I'm saying, make them mistakes. 1182 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: Got to Yeah, hist Lebron's strategies though, like the best 1183 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: one the moves he made, the exclusive moves he made, well, 1184 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: he bad like him and his crew. 1185 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 3: From day one. He like the first thing you got 1186 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 3: to say about him is the decision, Like, come on, bro, 1187 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: like that that's what I did. That was bogus was 1188 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 3: the decision. 1189 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying that that's that's like the 1190 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 4: thing that you get criticized the most or get you 1191 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, so like if that's that's 1192 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 4: that what I'm cool, Like I'm doing pretty good for 1193 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 4: like the status in the elite level he came in 1194 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 4: from day one on and like that's the big crowd 1195 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 4: about me, Like nah, I'm cool. 1196 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: No, Definitely, the way he handlw itself and he conduct 1197 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 2: business that's inspirational. 1198 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: That's definitely he moved the coachure definitely with that. He 1199 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: knew how to do it, even with being political and 1200 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: stuff because the Jordan's and the Kobe and new one 1201 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: into all that. For him to be speaking sometimes some 1202 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 1: of the stuff be kind of I don't know where 1203 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: he was coming with that one, but for him to 1204 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: even be steep speaking up and he the top on 1205 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: the list. 1206 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 4: Is instead to throw his name out that you know 1207 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, somebody come back. You gotta respect that. Yeah, 1208 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 4: but hey, we got this part where we like to 1209 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 4: do called what's better now or in the nineties, So 1210 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 4: we just go It's basically like, so he read your 1211 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 4: he got the he got the n W A White 1212 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 4: Sox had. 1213 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 3: He fell under that ask. 1214 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 4: So you know, this is a good one for him, 1215 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 4: even though most of his answers gonna probably be nineties. 1216 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 5: What's better haircuts in the nineties or now? 1217 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 2: The nineties? Nineties for Shure, So you can pick anyone. 1218 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 2: Gumbo Park had and juice right, juice the whole you know, you. 1219 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 3: Know it's crazy. 1220 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 4: Ab brought that out one time and you know Brown 1221 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 4: remember that fact nineties for Shore in the in the 1222 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 4: nineties you like or what's better in the nineties and 1223 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 4: now clothes fashion. 1224 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 2: I think I think people starting to dress more like 1225 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 2: the nineties now. It seemed like to me nineties for sure. 1226 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: I think I thought nas was like the Friend just 1227 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 2: dude in the nineties. 1228 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: It was smooth then on now commercials back then in 1229 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: the nineties or now, I think. 1230 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 2: Nineties was more memorable, like you know what I'm saying, 1231 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 2: like classic lines that you will never forget. 1232 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 3: I still quote like you know what I'm saying commercially 1233 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 3: from the nineties. 1234 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: Now, like like little panes, a little penny, little penny 1235 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: penny joining commercials, commercials. 1236 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 4: Because now it's like so many commercials now, it's like 1237 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 4: it's not it's hard for him to really stick. Every 1238 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 4: once in a while, like the Doakis the original do 1239 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 4: they messed it up with the new Dude. 1240 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 3: Right says I think that was memorab when with the 1241 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 3: other one old. 1242 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 7: Spice, No Man Spices on the way class it might 1243 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 7: be a it's kind of like as. 1244 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 4: It's hilarious, so it's kind of it's kind of when 1245 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 4: you think about it, Yeah, it's kind. 1246 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 3: Of hard right there. 1247 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 5: R and B music in the nineties or now nineties, 1248 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 5: I ain't even know real R and B. 1249 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 4: Now everybody you gotta have a you gotta have a 1250 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 4: rap bron then you gotta have a stupid crazy beat 1251 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 4: like you gotta. 1252 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 3: Do the rap on that now because the rappers so trash. 1253 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 2: Like back in the day you had a Yeah A 1254 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 2: Bad Boy remix of the so So that remixed. 1255 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 3: It was hard though, right right there vibe. But now 1256 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 3: you know, you throw like Soldier Boy coming to messing 1257 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 3: all up songs up. I don't want to say that. 1258 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to get on your social yea d 1259 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 3: so like that. 1260 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 5: I love Soldier Boy man soldiers like that man. 1261 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 2: But nineties, for sure, you got everybody one twelve Mary 1262 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 2: j Jo each town. 1263 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 3: It was hard, everybody, it was cold. 1264 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: Nowadays you only got a few, you know what I'm saying. 1265 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 2: You got Chris Brown Tree Sons. 1266 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: When I was in high school, I used to have 1267 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: a biggie small life after death, and I used to 1268 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: I used to be mentally in my head to kind 1269 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: of psych myself up because I'm like, I got a 1270 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: price on my head. I'm one of the top players 1271 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: in the nation. When you before you play in games. 1272 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: One of the songs I know we listened to many 1273 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: over the years, but one of the ones that was like, yeah, 1274 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: that's the one I had to listen to. 1275 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 5: Every game to get me hyping. 1276 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,399 Speaker 3: And I know you you throw back. 1277 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 5: What is this song that you used to listen to? 1278 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 5: If I had to pick one, you remember that you 1279 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 5: was like, I always have to hear this before the game. 1280 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, man. I think ambitions is a 1281 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: rider you used to get come yeah, because you got 1282 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 2: to get you playing that. Yeah, that's the real one. 1283 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: What was your One of my favorites though that used 1284 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 2: to give me like dumb hype? Was the was that 1285 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,720 Speaker 2: fifty that many men, many men give me hype? 1286 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 3: Came out? You ain't right or wrong? You were rolling, man, 1287 00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: And what was crazy? 1288 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 5: He's just like three months before that, I was bumping 1289 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 5: joh just like man, he took my rotation real quick. 1290 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 3: That was amazing. Check out that fire. But I said, I. 1291 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: Seen j when I was in New York. I seen 1292 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: got it, man. I spoke to them boys. Man, they 1293 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: look like they're in good health and all that stuff. 1294 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 3: I don't think I got a pretty nice looking girlfriend. 1295 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 3: He blessed. 1296 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 5: You, overchievenn We'll go to rap albums of all time. 1297 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 3: Right man? It depends on when you ask some of 1298 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 3: your favorites. 1299 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 2: It's because it just depends, you know what I'm saying, 1300 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 2: Because you know, Midwest a different area. 1301 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 3: I didn't get onto East Coast wrap until like I 1302 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: got a little older, like my uncle. You know what 1303 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's what I looked up to. My uncle. 1304 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: He was like tough dude in the neighborhood. But you know, 1305 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 2: he was like all gainst around. He was scarfaced in 1306 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 2: every way. 1307 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 3: U g K. You know what I'm saying. It was 1308 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 3: just that, you know, I grew DJ Clue Quick. I mean. 1309 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 2: I bought uh, Safe and Sound DJ Quick was my 1310 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 2: first album I bought on cassette tape. 1311 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 3: I was living in Grand Rappers, me and my my 1312 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 3: mom took me and my brothers. He bought Uh. He 1313 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 3: bought I don't know what album was out at the time. 1314 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 3: It was. 1315 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was A Ball m j 1316 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 2: G like both of them, or it was the A 1317 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 2: Ball Lost album. He bought that, and I bought the 1318 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 2: Safe and Sound d J Quick album that was. I 1319 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 2: don't know why I bought that CD. I just like 1320 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: to cover and ship. 1321 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 3: Chance. I bought that ship. But I think my top five, Man, 1322 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, uh. 1323 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 2: I'm going me against the world. I'm gonna go doggy style, 1324 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 2: Uncle Snoop, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to Purple 1325 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: tape mm hmm, only Cuban links. Uh, I'm gonna go ahead, 1326 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:17,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna illmatic and then my fifth I'm gonna go Damn, 1327 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. This is gonna be crazy. But 1328 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 2: I like that eight Ball. M j G first album 1329 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 2: was so hard to me. I don't know why it 1330 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 2: has told me. I think it was the time, you 1331 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But I was staying with my 1332 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 2: mind and they just the music. Everybody the whole time 1333 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 2: was going on like everybody in the crib. You know 1334 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 2: how there's a million people in out the house. They 1335 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 2: have a house party, They gambling, they playing cards. 1336 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You pretty much just soaking 1337 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 3: up all you're looking at all this. 1338 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 2: I think at that time in the suns that was 1339 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 2: being played, like pepping my own round and all that. 1340 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 3: I think I just gravitated towards the album. 1341 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 4: A lot space they had they had man eight Ball 1342 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 4: the space pimping was. 1343 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 3: Killer ships and rockets. 1344 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a blessing to have you come here with 1345 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: your busy schedule, man, But we definitely appreciate the love 1346 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: Q Rave about you. 1347 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 3: Man. 1348 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: That's what made me start really getting into you and 1349 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: following your career. So, man, we definitely appreciate you coming 1350 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 1: through and messing with us. 1351 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 2: Man, we're gonna I definitely appreciate the love, you know 1352 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Two guys I looked up to play with, 1353 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 2: Bro watch you growing up. I mean when you first 1354 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 2: got the Portland, you had the I think it was 1355 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 2: a Chavelle you had. 1356 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 3: It would be the black, it was purple, whatever it was. 1357 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 3: They had the design. Man, that's everybody had. Like you know, 1358 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 3: you got the nice cars. You know what I'm saying. 1359 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 2: I've seen that like that's the that's always one of 1360 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,240 Speaker 2: the Chevelle or something like it was on thirties. 1361 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 3: Match around right at the bottom of the round. I'm like, 1362 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 3: that's so cold at the airbrush. Paine jab how did it? 1363 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 5: When he got. 1364 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 3: I looked at him, I say, Bro, I say, what's 1365 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 3: wrong with you? That boy was? Remember that car? Yeah? Man, 1366 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 3: we definitely man, appreciate it. Bro. This love bro for real, 1367 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 3: for real, we do it like that. 1368 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 4: Check us out on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen, download, subscribe, 1369 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 4: check us out. 1370 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 3: We out here. We getting it in Knuckleheads Jack the 1371 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 3: Players Tribute dot Com