Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and came
Speaker 1: Ridge Edge.
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, welcome to another episode to Teas in a Pod.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna apologize in advance, which I don't think you should,
Speaker 2: but I mean, I'm in that stage of my anxiety
Speaker 2: where I lose my train of thought a little bit. Oh,
Speaker 2: we're here for to cheese and a pod myself in Erica.
Speaker 3: Well listen, that's okay. You're totally allowed to be in
Speaker 3: that place and I will help you out if you
Speaker 3: need it.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Yeah, it started. It's normally, like I
Speaker 2: just you know, I live with constant anxiety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like just how long has that been since you
Speaker 3: were little?
Speaker 2: Since I was little? So it's never it's been one
Speaker 2: of those things. But then there will be like like
Speaker 2: spurts of time where it'll just get really intense and
Speaker 2: almost of the time be after a panic attack.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: So this past week I drove to the horse show.
Speaker 2: Normally I always, you know, will get a ride or
Speaker 2: do whatever, and I drove with Slate and it was
Speaker 2: when no cars were on the road and it was fine.
Speaker 2: But then driving home, Slaate went home with Edwin because
Speaker 2: she had to get to her birthday and I hadn't
Speaker 2: competed yet, so then I had to drive myself. And
Speaker 2: so when I was on my horse about to show,
Speaker 2: I started thinking about having to drive home and traffic
Speaker 2: and the blah blah blah, and like I went completely black,
Speaker 2: like had to yell out to the people outside the ring,
Speaker 2: where am I going? Like forgot my course? No, And
Speaker 2: I mean this is like nine in the morning, Like
Speaker 2: there's no wow. And then I came out and I
Speaker 2: had like threw up and no way, yes, gosh teddy.
Speaker 2: And then it's now, you know what. We're a couple
Speaker 2: of days later and I'm still in it. But it's
Speaker 2: like it'll it'll disappear for a little waves. I know,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: But it's when you feel like you're living outside of
Speaker 3: your box. Yes, it's like you I yes, I've had
Speaker 3: that feeling. It's terrible. And that's why I'm on into deepressants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm on I'm on a zoloft. So
Speaker 2: like normally it's pretty much kept at Bay So I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's just where I have so much
Speaker 2: travel for work and.
Speaker 3: Well, you've got a lot going on too. I think
Speaker 3: you know, people know you from the pod, they know
Speaker 3: you from the show, but I know you differently, and
Speaker 3: you've got a lot going on, you know. So it's
Speaker 3: a lot and you never know. And that's the thing too,
Speaker 3: is that people see others and they think, well, their
Speaker 3: life must be great, and yes it is, but there's
Speaker 3: also a lot of stuff you don't see, and it
Speaker 3: wears on you and we're all just human at the
Speaker 3: end of the day. Everybody, Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 2: How are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm okay. I mean, I had a great therapy session yesterday,
Speaker 3: which I think is important for me just to continue
Speaker 3: to stay stable and steady and just not to have
Speaker 3: my emotions take control of myself.
Speaker 2: I'm okay.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear you feel that way though, but
Speaker 3: I'm here. So we're gonna have a good time.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna we're gonna have a good time talking about
Speaker 2: other people's problems. You know what, Let's escape our own
Speaker 2: shit and talk about David Badore, because that's.
Speaker 3: Really this is really gonna take you right out of
Speaker 3: your spot.
Speaker 2: Even though I was so saddened to see the reports
Speaker 2: that watching True crime doesn't actually help people with anxiety disorder.
Speaker 3: Okay, there is a problem with that. I asked my therapist. Okay,
Speaker 3: because I'm always asking my therapist. Is shit, I fall
Speaker 3: asleep to true crime?
Speaker 2: Me too. It's relaxing to me.
Speaker 3: Me too. Do you know that is a mostly in women.
Speaker 3: I think it's more son like any man that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: can we watch what are you doing? Yeah? I'm like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? I relaxed to this? So
Speaker 3: I took it up with my son, whos police officer.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, no, that's a problem. He's like, you know,
Speaker 3: I try everything I can to get away from this shit,
Speaker 3: and here you are just blasting and lasting it.
Speaker 2: As you're falling awape, like it can't be good.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's like a trauma response. More investigation.
Speaker 3: Whomever is out there that watches their listens, please let
Speaker 3: us know what we're going.
Speaker 2: Yeah why? And also if you need a good show,
Speaker 2: Into the Fire on Netflix amazing. Oh, I'm going to
Speaker 2: start that. I watched it last night. I mean it
Speaker 2: it's good. Okay, I'll watch it all right. So this
Speaker 2: first Orange County headline is David Badore's wife Leslie, seeks
Speaker 2: domestic violence restraining order. He accuses her of extortion.
Speaker 3: But isn't that what he's doing? Oh no, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: totally confused for a hot second, all right.
Speaker 2: Essentially, Shannon's picker has always been off.
Speaker 3: It seems this way. So far, we're over too, at
Speaker 3: least as far as I know her.
Speaker 2: Yes, So according to page six, Leslie Badour, there's a
Speaker 2: docket for the Superior Court of California, Orange County. It
Speaker 2: shows that she filed the request last Tuesday. She claims
Speaker 2: her husband has been verbally abusive and harassed her in
Speaker 2: front of all of her kids. I recorded the whole
Speaker 2: incident and will provide videos to the court. All my
Speaker 2: children are terrified by David's behavior. David truly needs help.
Speaker 2: He gets an obsessed of mania state. I never know
Speaker 2: when David's next mount down will be or how long
Speaker 2: they will last. She leads, he once was cruel enough
Speaker 2: to call her late father a pathetic loser that had
Speaker 2: nothing and say that he deserved to die rough hard words,
Speaker 2: hard words, And I'm not discrediting that. Most likely this
Speaker 2: probably does happen. But we have to also turn back
Speaker 2: time and remember Leslie's Walmart rage video.
Speaker 3: Anything about Leslie, do you guys, Walmart rage, what are you?
Speaker 3: Are you trying to tell me that Leslie is not
Speaker 3: without sin?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you that I think both parties
Speaker 2: may have a little up rage. Yeah, well, because you
Speaker 2: could go back in time and watch that. And she
Speaker 2: posted the video herself. It was her having rage out Walmart,
Speaker 2: and she posted the video like she was so in
Speaker 2: her rage that she thought she was validated in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just quit with the videos. Yeah, let's just
Speaker 3: not video anything.
Speaker 2: But have you ever been in an argument with someone,
Speaker 2: and not on Housewives but in general, Yeah, and picked
Speaker 2: up your camera and started.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not me neither. Well, I wouldn't even think to
Speaker 3: do that. That's not when I'm angry. That's the last
Speaker 3: thing I number one, you should never do that, Okay,
Speaker 3: never do It's just not something that I would naturally
Speaker 3: gravitate towards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like my let me video you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really invested in the words that are coming
Speaker 3: out of your mouth and how I'm going to destroy them,
Speaker 3: not where my camera is, you know, how I'm going
Speaker 3: to destroy what you're saying, not you know, oh my god,
Speaker 3: let me get this on camera. Yeah I know.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: Well, that's uh yeah.
Speaker 2: But I feel like this has also happened a couple
Speaker 2: of times, so I hope that both of them end
Speaker 2: up in a better place.
Speaker 3: This happened more than once.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think they filed for divorce a couple of times,
Speaker 2: and they both go back and forth, and and I think,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is in all states, but
Speaker 2: every time you file something in the court than it's
Speaker 2: public record. So I don't know how much is being
Speaker 2: leaked to the press or how much is actually just.
Speaker 3: But do we care? I mean, these people aren't on
Speaker 3: the show, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't care. But it is the number
Speaker 2: one headline that was listed by doubtload, so.
Speaker 3: We care for today. Okay, great, we care enough to
Speaker 3: talk about it with. You have to talk about it with, y'all.
Speaker 2: I can tell you I probably care more about that
Speaker 2: than I care about Katie insisting that Heather Dubrow called
Speaker 2: paparazzi on herself.
Speaker 3: We don't care, and Katie, I already told you what
Speaker 3: to do last week, which is just say I'm sorry
Speaker 3: and let it go. There's a really cool bird out here.
Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's probably Eric's like Anyways, there's a bird,
Speaker 2: there's a wild bird out here. Basically, you know, but
Speaker 2: she said there is more evidence. She's doubling down on
Speaker 2: her claim that Heather Dubrow called the paparazzi. My husband
Speaker 2: and I have been in the media for twenty years.
Speaker 2: We've known this person, and he is in charge of
Speaker 2: a big company that controls the paparazzi, She says, though
Speaker 2: she is willing to unveil more details of their conversation
Speaker 2: on the matter.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to share our personal texts because I
Speaker 3: respect his job and I respect his position, and I
Speaker 3: wouldn't do that to him. I guess it's going to
Speaker 3: look like that's not a good enough receipt, but I'm
Speaker 3: going to be respectful to a friend, a dear friend.
Speaker 3: Just let it go, babe, let it go.
Speaker 2: But also, there's like three big paparazzi sites, So what
Speaker 2: is their X seventeen?
Speaker 3: You tell me shit. All I know is that I
Speaker 3: always end up on the fucking daily Minil. That's all
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: And you order a lot of Postmates.
Speaker 3: Do you know why? Because I'm number one, I never
Speaker 3: learned how to cook Number two. I don't like to
Speaker 3: cook a number three. I'm terrorized to go anywhere. I
Speaker 3: love a postmate.
Speaker 2: Every time the paparazzi gets like during COVID they got
Speaker 2: me leaving the Chick fil A with Remember when we
Speaker 2: were and I had a mask on, gloves within you a.
Speaker 3: Couple of times, girl, ooh my girl.
Speaker 2: They never give me looking hot.
Speaker 3: They never get anybody looking hot.
Speaker 2: Well, the people that call them on themselves, they get
Speaker 2: looking hot.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, what you know, I think you know
Speaker 3: there are taxes in life. You know how you have
Speaker 3: to pay, like federal and state taxes. There's a tax
Speaker 3: to being in the public, and that is one of them.
Speaker 3: There's a tax. It's like taxes.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You just have to accept the fact that you're going
Speaker 3: to end up on some site looking like shit. And
Speaker 3: that's just kind of the way it is. A friend
Speaker 3: of mine, friends of mine asked me to go to
Speaker 3: Larchmont Village on Saturday, and I was like no, because
Speaker 3: I was having anxiety and I knew the paparazzi to
Speaker 3: be there, and I didn't want to look ugly again,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't going to put in the work to
Speaker 3: put on, you know, a face or a little bit
Speaker 3: of hair. Yeah, you're like I said, do you know what,
Speaker 3: I don't have it in me. I just don't want
Speaker 3: to look at it today. And you know what, this person,
Speaker 3: these this couple, they're the same things. So they were like,
Speaker 3: you know what, we get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, thanks for the invite, but.
Speaker 2: But I can't do it if you want to hang
Speaker 2: out with in our pajamas at one of our homes.
Speaker 3: I'm in mostly their home, yeah, because it's real good.
Speaker 3: But you know, I hated having to say that to them,
Speaker 3: which was my anxiety, which is honestly what you were
Speaker 3: talking about is like so bad. I just don't want
Speaker 3: to look at another ugly picture of myself to And I.
Speaker 2: Think, you know, we'll get kind of into that as
Speaker 2: we talk about like self image and what's going on.
Speaker 2: Next one is well Alexis Bollino and John Jansen sign
Speaker 2: a prenup.
Speaker 3: Before he said no I saw that.
Speaker 2: Did you see his small little scarf? Did you like it?
Speaker 3: I didn't. You know, you always notice when people I
Speaker 3: don't notice what these people are wearing.
Speaker 2: I'm looking so so interesting to me because you always
Speaker 2: I'm such an expression in your own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm so self involved. But you know what
Speaker 3: I do pay attention to is people are First off,
Speaker 3: if you ask me, it's gonna sound kind of weird.
Speaker 3: What someone looks like, I nine times out of ten
Speaker 3: can tell you what they feel like to me more
Speaker 3: so than what they exactly look like. So I'm never
Speaker 3: really looking at someone's clothes. I'm really looking at their
Speaker 3: face or how they feel to me. And I noticed
Speaker 3: when he said no, he was like no. I thought, okay, cool, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2: When when Erica goes cool like it's all bad, it's
Speaker 2: all about yeah cool, it's good, cool, cool, okay, but
Speaker 2: he says no, and then she says, we talked about it.
Speaker 2: And then they asked if she'll take his last name,
Speaker 2: and she said yes, right, one hundred percent, she answered,
Speaker 2: immediately before sharing her new initials.
Speaker 3: A J all the way, Oh that would be her name.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean, look, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 2: prenups if you were to get married again?
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't have one with Tom, and I probably
Speaker 3: should have. I don't know if anything would have saved
Speaker 3: me because that going through, but maybe it would have helped.
Speaker 3: I did end up with anything anyway, So I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know what everybody needs to do their own thing.
Speaker 3: I would advise, yes, get a prenup, because nine times
Speaker 3: out of ten you just needed an extra layer protection.
Speaker 3: And no, it's not romantic, and yes it puts a
Speaker 3: damper on the whole love thing, but it's also a
Speaker 3: reality of when and if God forbid things turn ugly,
Speaker 3: you're protected at least in some way. And nobody ever
Speaker 3: wants to think of that.
Speaker 2: But would you have been offended when you first met Oh,
Speaker 2: not at all.
Speaker 3: He was very wealthy. I had nothing.
Speaker 2: But would you be offended if he were to say
Speaker 2: I need you to sign a prenup in order for
Speaker 2: us to get married.
Speaker 3: No, because he had everything and I had nothing, So
Speaker 3: I would understand why he would want to protect himself.
Speaker 3: But I don't think he ever had a prenup. I
Speaker 3: was wife number three. I don't think he ever had
Speaker 3: a prenup. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean I have a prenup. It's not great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a real shitty one. I sometimes just think.
Speaker 3: Who cares?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: It was a place you were in at that time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my belongings when I met Edwin where
Speaker 2: it was an English bulldog one Cardier bracelet and Mercedes
Speaker 2: like something like but it was like years year like
Speaker 2: super super old.
Speaker 3: I had a red Toyota convertible silica and my clothes
Speaker 3: were in trash bags. That was all I had nothing,
Speaker 3: So anything was up from there.
Speaker 2: But I also want to know, like where I got
Speaker 2: that Cardia bracelet? Yeah, who gave it? Probably your dad?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a gift to you. Maybe it
Speaker 2: was from Edwin, like maybe he gave it to me
Speaker 2: when you moved in No, like when he was my boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Oh well, the fact that you don't remember it makes
Speaker 3: me a little nervous. And where where is this bracelet today?
Speaker 2: It's no idea.
Speaker 3: Don't do separate property bit because this ain't it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is half? Okay, ef, you got half?
Speaker 2: The bulldog's been dead for eight years.
Speaker 3: Where are your dogs? You have to you know, I
Speaker 3: just want to say, I'm sorry to Bogart, but like
Speaker 3: my dog, my beloved Thiago, has been uh he's been
Speaker 3: gone for exactly a year. Oh my gosh. But wait
Speaker 3: a second, I'm putting out the feelers because it's time
Speaker 3: for me to get a new dog. It's time for
Speaker 3: me to have a companion, and it's time for me
Speaker 3: to get a new dog. So I'm reaching out to
Speaker 3: anyone that.
Speaker 2: Do you want the same kind of dog I do?
Speaker 3: But it's a lot of work. But I don't think
Speaker 3: that I'm a small dog girl. Someone changed my mind.
Speaker 3: I don't know where are your dogs?
Speaker 2: Well, so I had just to take you guys down
Speaker 2: my quick dog timeline before we get into this. But
Speaker 2: I had, you know, the bulldog when I met Edwin
Speaker 2: who passed away of old age. And then we had
Speaker 2: Khalisi who you met when you were on the show,
Speaker 2: which was she was special. Yeah, she was the best
Speaker 2: pom ever. And she took her to a doggy daycare
Speaker 2: when we went out of town and she passed away there.
Speaker 2: It was traumatic. And then we got these two little frenchies, right,
Speaker 2: Havanna Havana and pork Chop Yea, and they were I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. I might get heat for this.
Speaker 2: They weren't like the English bulldogs, like they were hell
Speaker 2: on wheels and they chewed up our life and like
Speaker 2: I I was going to keep them forever. And then
Speaker 2: my brother came into town and you said, and he
Speaker 2: lives on like a farm and he's he started playing
Speaker 2: with them and he's an artist. He works from home,
Speaker 2: and he's like, Teddy, I've always wanted French bulldogs. And
Speaker 2: I was like, today is your dad?
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, spec I have a.
Speaker 2: Gift for you. And then his girlfriend's looking at me
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh wow. And so then I looked
Speaker 2: at her and I go, what will it take? And
Speaker 2: she's like a Gucci purse. I go go go up
Speaker 2: to line. No, I go up to my closet. Pick
Speaker 2: anyone you want. Oh.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to take a shop. No oh,
Speaker 3: And you let her take a bag.
Speaker 2: I let her take a bag and a pair of
Speaker 2: air Mays slides and then anything and then the two dogs,
Speaker 2: the bag, the air May slides. My brother and his
Speaker 2: girlfriend went on their merry way and they live a
Speaker 2: happily life ever after.
Speaker 3: The country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we just foster. We foster dogs so
Speaker 2: that like you do, Yeah, we'll foster them and so
Speaker 2: that the kids get that experience and that we can
Speaker 2: also help the dogs. And while there trying to get adopted,
Speaker 2: but like, we travel too much, and I realized it's
Speaker 2: not fair to them.
Speaker 3: It's not And that was one of the real things
Speaker 3: that I've been struggling with was, you know, Okay, Erica,
Speaker 3: you're by yourself. Don't rob me. You're by which is
Speaker 3: why I'm getting the dog again. You're by yourself. You
Speaker 3: live you know, you live alone. I've always had working dogs,
Speaker 3: which is Emily's dog, I know, Toko. Yeah, he's beautiful, Emily,
Speaker 3: And I thought, you know what, I travel. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, like you know, I always have people
Speaker 3: stay at the house.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, you always have I always have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always have people stay at the house. And
Speaker 3: I've been looking at these Italian mastiffs.
Speaker 2: That's a big ass dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's my type.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I like big dogs. I'm a big she loves big dogs.
Speaker 2: Because dogs, what is it that you do what we do.
Speaker 2: At the beginning of Housewives.
Speaker 3: Here my tagline Erica loves big dogs. Erica loves big dogs.
Speaker 2: So in Beverly Hills, we love big dogs.
Speaker 3: Well, big dogs need a long leash. I'm a big dog.
Speaker 3: I need a long leash, you know. So there you go.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget Ida. When I was young, I dated
Speaker 3: this man and he was a man and he told
Speaker 3: me that when we were talking about, you know, like,
Speaker 3: are we dat He's like, Erica, I'm a big dog.
Speaker 3: I need a long leash stuck with me for forever.
Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm a big dog. I need
Speaker 3: a fucking long leash too. I was on a short
Speaker 3: leash for many year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, now I need you need one of
Speaker 2: those retractable yes, but anyway, unleash.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm looking for dogs and I would welcome some.
Speaker 2: So people should slide into your dms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know if someone has a re your DMS,
Speaker 3: like of course, yeah, I have some interesting things in there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's never anybody wanting to like hook up, but they
Speaker 3: there are interesting people that I've connected with, like different
Speaker 3: artists and stuff. So if you have any suggestions or
Speaker 3: if you know somebody that's got good, solid dogs, let
Speaker 3: me know. Temperament is everything for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, temperament is everything. Because we don't want to see
Speaker 2: any of this next thing, which is Alexis Billino bringing
Speaker 2: receipts to Real Housewives Orange County Season eighteen reunion but
Speaker 2: not video footage.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: I know. When Alexis was a guest on Page six
Speaker 2: Virtual reality podcast, she explained how she was going to
Speaker 2: expose the truth at the reunion. She said, I know
Speaker 2: people make fun of it, but I'm telling you now,
Speaker 2: if you're going up against lying and the truth, you
Speaker 2: better have the receipts. My future husband is the one
Speaker 2: that's being massacred and it's not true. So I am
Speaker 2: not going to drop it. I'm going to show the
Speaker 2: truth and tell the truth. But if you don't, if
Speaker 2: you're not showing the videos, what are you showing?
Speaker 3: Well that's the big gotcha, gotcha? What do you have Alexis?
Speaker 3: And why are you fighting his fight? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Let him do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let the man do his own work, let him.
Speaker 2: Do his shit. Like it actually concerns me. She's been
Speaker 2: so right or die for you know her ex Jim
Speaker 2: Bollino as well. She's so ride or die for them
Speaker 2: all the time. Like if I think there's a moment
Speaker 2: where you pull yourself back from doing that. But maybe
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I pus, I just don't speak of the person.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that. Look, Shannon versus Alexis has been
Speaker 3: very entertaining, and you know, John and the threesome has
Speaker 3: been very entertaining. But I don't know what Alexis gets
Speaker 3: in the long I'm always looking at the like I
Speaker 3: always play the long game, which is where does this
Speaker 3: get me at the end of the day. And I
Speaker 3: don't know if this gets her anything.
Speaker 2: Well, what I have started to think of it.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Yes? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: what is this really buy you?
Speaker 2: Here? And correct me if I'm wrong. I actually started
Speaker 2: thinking the fact that Alexis came onto the show and
Speaker 2: Shannon's been able to talk about the John Janssen stuff
Speaker 2: has really lightened the conversation and regards to the Duy
Speaker 2: on like it's actually a savior.
Speaker 3: It's actually shifted the focus from the Duy to this
Speaker 3: as he's being portrayed bad man and this girl friend Alexis,
Speaker 3: that's you know, protecting him and in some ways bullying Shannon.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you really want to, if you really
Speaker 3: want it down to what's happening.
Speaker 2: Here, because then it's like you kind of forget. I mean,
Speaker 2: as much as there's empathy for Shannon, I'm like, you
Speaker 2: should be so happy that this happened, because if this didn't.
Speaker 3: Well you would have heard as d Y d U
Speaker 3: I and how you were a hypocrite against Gina and
Speaker 3: all the other ships. Yeah, like it would have been
Speaker 3: because we know how these things go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so it starts out with Katie, Emily, and
Speaker 2: Jen meet for lunch. Emily says her dress was a
Speaker 2: size twelve at the fashion show, and Alexis was a
Speaker 2: size two. Emily says she was the only one who
Speaker 2: had to bring her own genes. Emily thinks Heather's views
Speaker 2: views her as a big girl. I love when Emily
Speaker 2: asks if she's valid in her feelings and Katie is like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, girl, because I want anybody but me to
Speaker 2: have to go after Heather at this point.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I think that Emily truly feels some
Speaker 3: way about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I think that being on a
Speaker 2: show like this.
Speaker 3: Only enhances it. And I'm telling you, any flaw, any insecurity,
Speaker 3: any crack, only becomes more exposed or what is the
Speaker 3: word bigger for lack of a better word, on a
Speaker 3: show like.
Speaker 2: This, Yeah, I mean, I think you can be like
Speaker 2: a size double zero and still feel it's however you're
Speaker 2: feeling like emotionally, however you're feeling with the group. I mean,
Speaker 2: I remember even walking in and somebody making a comment
Speaker 2: about like I think I wore like a different colored
Speaker 2: lipstick one day and somebody's like, well, that's not a
Speaker 2: character for you. Why are you wearing that coat? And
Speaker 2: I remember like feeling like having that moment of like shit,
Speaker 2: like do I look like I'm trying to like all
Speaker 2: these weird insecurities. Sure that happened because it wasn't necessarily
Speaker 2: a compliment, but it wasn't necessarily a put down.
Speaker 3: No, I see this is and you ride this place
Speaker 3: where if I acknowledge something, oh hey, that's different. Now
Speaker 3: it's on you to you know, now you're in your
Speaker 3: head about are they making fun of me? Or you know,
Speaker 3: what does that mean? And then it becomes this whole
Speaker 3: big thing in your head because you're also different.
Speaker 2: You're accepting. You know that at some point somebody is
Speaker 2: going to be out to get you on these shows,
Speaker 2: so your defenses are up.
Speaker 3: Well, if they aren't, they will be after your first season.
Speaker 2: But because I know in real life, you walk into
Speaker 2: your friend group and they're like, hey girl, what are
Speaker 2: you doing with the red lipstick? And I'm like, try
Speaker 2: something new.
Speaker 3: You know, like, well you'll be embraced, And here you
Speaker 3: run the risk of not being embraced as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, and then you turn inward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, we'll get more into this conversation
Speaker 2: later as the show goes on, because I think that's
Speaker 2: where it really.
Speaker 3: But she blossoms for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she starts expressing how she's feeling, and I understand,
Speaker 2: regardless of if it has to do with weight or
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, we all go through that, yep,
Speaker 2: in some capacity. Then Shannon says John's lawyer wants the
Speaker 2: videos for blackmail purposes and they're going to file against her.
Speaker 2: The reason they wouldn't accept her offer is because they
Speaker 2: want to still keep those videos of her allegedly on
Speaker 2: the ring camera. Whatever it is that we don't know.
Speaker 3: That's just like a threat though. That's like having something
Speaker 3: hanging over your head, you know, that's just kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Which is actually terrible. There's nothing Also, she doesn't know
Speaker 2: what's on there. To me, there's nothing worse than the unknown.
Speaker 3: Of course, because if she doesn't remember, then you know,
Speaker 3: you're filling in the blanks with the worst case scenarios,
Speaker 3: and it's like this thing dangling out there. Well, you know,
Speaker 3: we still have this.
Speaker 2: It's emotional warfare.
Speaker 3: Well, it's just mean.
Speaker 2: But also like, if you're so happy in your new
Speaker 2: life and somebody's willing to pay you, Like I'm here
Speaker 2: to tell you. If if I was suing you tomorrow
Speaker 2: for seventy five thousand and you came back and offered
Speaker 2: me fifty thousand and never talk about it again, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, great, great, that's the end of that fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars richer, and I'm done right.
Speaker 3: And let's have a non disclosure agreement and you know,
Speaker 3: I mean a confidentiality agreement. Excuse me and move on
Speaker 3: with our lives. You never talk about it. I never
Speaker 3: talk about it.
Speaker 2: The end, and now I have my money that I wanted.
Speaker 2: But this doesn't seem to be about money, No, it isn't.
Speaker 2: It's about shame. Yeah, it's about shame. Yeah, she is terrible, which.
Speaker 3: Is it's just terrible.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure she already feels a shit ton of shame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to add to that. And Alexis
Speaker 3: doesn't need to add to that. And John, look, they
Speaker 3: they know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not okay. Then Heather was asked to present
Speaker 2: at the Glad Awards. Heather and Meredith present the award.
Speaker 2: Alexis also at the event to support her children. This
Speaker 2: is a nice moment, of course, it is. We love Glad,
Speaker 2: We love Glad. I think it's it's good that both
Speaker 2: of them have been open about sharing as long as
Speaker 2: their kids are comfortable with whatever they're sharing.
Speaker 3: As long as their kids are comfortable, which they seem
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which they seem to be, and they seem to
Speaker 2: be very well loved, and so we love that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's not not much more to comment. Nothing really happens
Speaker 2: at this event of drama's sake, which is nice. Well,
Speaker 2: you guys, we do it there. We love to ruin
Speaker 2: a charity event.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not please, there's enough. We can wait, you know,
Speaker 3: there's enough to go on.
Speaker 2: There's nothing more than a housewife loves than to ruin
Speaker 2: a charity event. Then Katie Tamra and their daughters go
Speaker 2: candle making.
Speaker 3: Which I thought was sweet.
Speaker 2: That was nice Tamra, I audibly laughed when she's like,
Speaker 2: mine smells like medicine because it's just so well.
Speaker 3: Yes, she did not pick up, you know, florals. She
Speaker 3: picked a stringent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's probably what I would pick because
Speaker 2: I have no idea how to do anything arts and crafty.
Speaker 3: But you know what you like to smell like? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: Are you Do you wear perfume?
Speaker 2: I wear Kai, which well I wore it for years
Speaker 2: and then there was somebody else on our show that
Speaker 2: came in wearing it and I had to stop. They
Speaker 2: told you to No, I just smelled them, smelling like
Speaker 2: you mean, but.
Speaker 3: What about you getting a signature sent now?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, is that something you can help me with?
Speaker 3: I you know, I recently started collecting perfume, and because
Speaker 3: I didn't wear it for so long and now I
Speaker 3: do and I really enjoy it. Yeah, I've got some
Speaker 3: I got I've I've bought some bottles.
Speaker 2: Well, I like the I prefer the oil, yeah, the spray.
Speaker 3: Sure, but well, someone sent her something that she can
Speaker 3: try out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, because you know, I'm having conflicting smell.
Speaker 3: Do you like Santa La? Do you like Flora? What
Speaker 3: do you like? I have Kai smell like, I don't even.
Speaker 2: Know kais I have no, don't. I don't have it on.
Speaker 2: I sometimes I put it on, sometimes I don't. I
Speaker 2: stopped wearing it when I was on the show, because
Speaker 2: then I'd be like, oh, we smell the same.
Speaker 3: Well, you need your own signature.
Speaker 2: Smell wow, smell scent scent miud smell smeile MoU shmoo
Speaker 2: sm But Tama tells them to be careful who they
Speaker 2: procreate with.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 2: Amen. Sophia says she doesn't want to get married to
Speaker 2: have or have kids.
Speaker 3: Good for Sophia.
Speaker 2: I love that, Sophia, And I mean, I can say this,
Speaker 2: I thought the same thing. I wanted to get married
Speaker 2: when I was younger, but I didn't want to have kids.
Speaker 3: Look, it can change how she feels right now. That's fine,
Speaker 3: and so it's great that Sophia feels that way now.
Speaker 3: She may not feel that way later. It's all good
Speaker 3: even if she does feel that way later. Everybody's allowed
Speaker 3: to live their life. Nobody nobody's hurting anybody.
Speaker 2: And also she's allowed to express how she's feeling in
Speaker 2: the moment. I love that Sophia is kind of just
Speaker 2: who she is no matter what. Yes, because she's never
Speaker 2: been on the show, we have to remember she's a
Speaker 2: essentially been. Her mom has been a part of the
Speaker 2: show since Sofia was what is it three years old.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Portia who doesn't know it I was.
Speaker 2: Now, but she was never on any season of Orange
Speaker 2: County until this one.
Speaker 3: Good for her, I mean, for whatever reason. But she
Speaker 3: seems totally comfortable, Yeah, and just herself, which is wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah for you. And then Tamra says Simon was not
Speaker 2: a great husband or dad. She says it's hard because
Speaker 2: he gave her children, but a part of her hates him.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, maybe we keep that part inside. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean because my mother used to say that about my father,
Speaker 3: who you know, I met when I was twenty five.
Speaker 3: It didn't go great, but she would say things like
Speaker 3: you look like your dad or da da da da,
Speaker 3: And I was like eh, And she didn't say it
Speaker 3: in a loving way, so that maybe I would have
Speaker 3: kept to myself. That's and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And my biggest thing that I've always said to both
Speaker 2: my parents, because their favorite thing to do is when
Speaker 2: I pissed them off, to call me the other one's name. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like they'll be like.
Speaker 3: Oh, look at look at John. Okay John, you know
Speaker 3: what my mother's to do the same thing.
Speaker 2: What are you a little Vicky? And I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 2: And I hate it.
Speaker 3: And I hated it too, And I didn't even know
Speaker 3: my dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't know him, mom, And it just
Speaker 2: gives still to this day, they will both it'll still
Speaker 2: start to come out and I'll be like, please don't
Speaker 2: say it. It's actually bothersome to me because I love.
Speaker 2: I have love for both of you, absolutely, and for
Speaker 2: you to put it out there as if it's a negative.
Speaker 3: Makes me feel weird.
Speaker 2: And also, you two chose each other.
Speaker 3: I didn't choose you, No, you did not.
Speaker 2: For the record, like I wasn't like out there just
Speaker 2: like a random looking for Vickian you know, John, I
Speaker 2: wasn't looking for Jack and Diane.
Speaker 3: I was just you know, I wasn't So I don't
Speaker 3: want to hear it, and I agree it makes me.
Speaker 3: It made me feel weird too when I was a kid, Oh,
Speaker 3: look at your Latin daddy. You look like you're Latin daddy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you guys, I still know this, but you know,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't even know what he
Speaker 3: looks like. Mom.
Speaker 2: Does she never show you a picture? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I met him later. I would show me a picture,
Speaker 3: but I didn't think I looked like, but how like, how.
Speaker 2: Did she kind of and even introduce that to you? Like,
Speaker 2: was there like a photo book or was there anything.
Speaker 3: My mother and my grandmother would talk about my father,
Speaker 3: and I met my uncle when I was like four
Speaker 3: or five, so I sort of knew of them, but
Speaker 3: I did not and I heard stories about my father.
Speaker 2: Did you guys all live in the same town.
Speaker 3: No, he left, okay, so he actually lives on the
Speaker 3: West Coast and I lived in Atlanta. I was born
Speaker 3: and raised in Atlanta, So no, we did not live
Speaker 3: in the same town, so he was nowhere near. And
Speaker 3: so like when my mother would get angry, Oh there's
Speaker 3: your dad.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna say his name because he didn't
Speaker 3: need all that and I don't either, but yeah, yeah
Speaker 3: I would. My mother would do the same thing, and
Speaker 3: my grandmother a little bit, and I would just be like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't even know this, dude, Why are
Speaker 3: you saying that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it doesn't and it doesn't feel complimentary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe Tama would have just kept it short.
Speaker 2: But either way, I think that we are seeing that
Speaker 2: both Tamra's daughter and Katie's daughter have have a hard
Speaker 2: relationship with their dad.
Speaker 3: And Katie said that in her confessional, yeah, that they
Speaker 3: relate on this level.
Speaker 2: And then uh, Shannon and VICKI fly to Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: For the Trace to make up. But I guess it's dose.
Speaker 2: It's dose. So I had to do some research on
Speaker 2: this because the way they present this is as if
Speaker 2: it's a well oiled machine that's been going on for years.
Speaker 2: You mean the show, the show, the Trace make a show, yeah,
Speaker 2: like when you like machine. Oh, sorry to bring myself
Speaker 2: into you're like, hold on anyways, the next pretty nice
Speaker 2: to let yeah actually actually yeah, yeah, you can buy
Speaker 2: tickets now. But they make it seem like there was
Speaker 2: a Lee East. I don't know, like you would think
Speaker 2: it had been going on for years. How many shows
Speaker 2: were there? Three three? Three three shows Trace?
Speaker 3: There was three shows, and now there's squattro shows with
Speaker 3: dos amgas.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when they're anybody who's.
Speaker 3: Being standards, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so sorry. I have to say, when you
Speaker 2: think of something that's a well oiled machine, it's not
Speaker 2: three fucking shows. No.
Speaker 3: Three shows are basically rehearsal, yeah, and show dress rehearsal.
Speaker 2: Three. I mean they could use three more shows to
Speaker 2: work on their current show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure you need three more maybe
Speaker 3: private rehearsals before we put it back on the road. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I gotta you know, the time to reformulate the
Speaker 3: show is not in front of the audience.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: The tapping. Did you ever tap as a child? Because
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 2: Yes, I did with my mini mouse here of course,
Speaker 2: like you.
Speaker 3: Know, everybody's shuffle ball change and shuffle step and you know,
Speaker 3: heel toe tap, heel toe tap. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: that they were giving me their best well and.
Speaker 2: Why they're so frustrated after for tam or leaving when
Speaker 2: they knew. But then the next thing, I'm like, why
Speaker 2: are they acting like they're Taylor and Beyonce? But then
Speaker 2: Vicky kept comparing herself to Adele.
Speaker 3: The Adele thing was a reach, you know, like the Adele. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're like Adele.
Speaker 2: I was like, are you to Lulu?
Speaker 3: Like I'm I'm listen. I think that we all admire
Speaker 3: certain people.
Speaker 2: You know, I could compare my Like, if I was
Speaker 2: going to compare myself to someone, I'm trying to think
Speaker 2: of who would.
Speaker 3: Be like Harymon is the Thief of Joy, Teddy don't
Speaker 3: do it right.
Speaker 2: But I mean, if I were, it would probably be
Speaker 2: somebody who's, you know, a pain in the act. Like
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be Adele. It wouldn't be a mega superstar
Speaker 2: selling out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, look with the world's best voice.
Speaker 2: When I can't even figure out my T shirt slingshot.
Speaker 3: That was interesting too. Adele does T shirt slingshot. I
Speaker 3: did not know that. But she's done at MLB games.
Speaker 3: I've seen them done at baseball games, like the Angels
Speaker 3: us to love.
Speaker 2: It, but they have like a gun that kind of
Speaker 2: tests them out.
Speaker 3: Maybe not like with a slingshot in a club in
Speaker 3: Saint louis Is said Saint Louis. I think I actually
Speaker 3: loved Saint Louis. I had a good time there.
Speaker 2: I did too. Then Jen asked her son Dawson to
Speaker 2: be honest with her about not coming home before curfew.
Speaker 2: Dawson says he doesn't want to come to the house.
Speaker 2: Dawson says he doesn't have personal space. It would be
Speaker 2: better to go to his dad's place. And then Jen
Speaker 2: gets emotional and says she'd be better about giving him
Speaker 2: his space, but she'll never stop being his mom.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Hey, I have a thirty two year old son.
Speaker 3: This is par for the course. They want to be
Speaker 3: with their dad. They don't like to be near their mother.
Speaker 3: Don't take it personally, Jen, I promise you he'll come
Speaker 3: back around. It's going to take a little while. But
Speaker 3: he's also in my opinion, like you know, you want
Speaker 3: boys to want to be independent. You don't want them
Speaker 3: to be stuck at home. I'm not saying that is this,
Speaker 3: but can.
Speaker 2: We do it? Check on how old Dawson is.
Speaker 3: He's in high school. I thought, right, But it's okay
Speaker 3: to want to live with your dad. I think it's
Speaker 3: totally okay to okay with that.
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about him wanting to live with his dad.
Speaker 3: You do have to come home. You can't break her.
Speaker 2: But the structure is what I think is problematic.
Speaker 3: He's seventeen. He should be home.
Speaker 2: And when she said, I don't want you to get
Speaker 2: mad at me when I tell you have to wake
Speaker 2: up and go to school, I think, what ends up happening?
Speaker 2: I know I did this when I would switch between
Speaker 2: both my parents' houses.
Speaker 3: Which one was John or Vicky? Which one was more lax?
Speaker 3: My mom?
Speaker 2: Oh, but I was very manipulative, like I would use
Speaker 2: the other parent to get out of certain situations. Daddie, Yes,
Speaker 2: because as as I knew that they couldn't work together,
Speaker 2: Oh you just played them. Yeah. Then I was like, well, great,
Speaker 2: well I have the upper hand in every siture. You're
Speaker 2: not talking to each other.
Speaker 3: I got my.
Speaker 2: Own way, which is I'm not saying Dawson.
Speaker 3: Is doing this, but I'm saying Dawson, if you're listening.
Speaker 2: But Dawson, if you're not going to school on time,
Speaker 2: you're breaking curfew.
Speaker 3: It's not acceptable in either home you got. You're seventeen
Speaker 3: years old. You have to come. You cannot break curfew.
Speaker 3: You need to go to school. Nothing good happens if
Speaker 3: you do. If you know, don't go to school and
Speaker 3: break curfew. I can promise you that.
Speaker 2: But Jen's ex husband did used to work for Jen's
Speaker 2: dad and now he doesn't.
Speaker 3: Oh so, but her parents look nice. We met her.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing her parents on this season.
Speaker 2: The next sweet But I did appreciate the conversation where
Speaker 2: Jen says that she wants more for Dawson than what
Speaker 2: she created for herself. She's like, she's a very honest moment,
Speaker 2: and we all want more. I think every parent wants more.
Speaker 2: And I kind of appreciate her vulnerability where she will
Speaker 2: open up about that kind of stuff because not a
Speaker 2: lot of women, not a lot of housewives are going
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: No, and they're not really. She's been criticized for a
Speaker 3: lot of things like not having a job, not paying
Speaker 3: her bills. We see this scene with her son, So
Speaker 3: you do have to give it to her there. You're
Speaker 3: right about that. There are a lot of people that
Speaker 3: would definitely shield the audience the opposite way, of course,
Speaker 3: and you know, try to make that not happen at all.
Speaker 2: But then Shannon and Vicky start their show. Vicky wants
Speaker 2: to start it with a shot of tequila. I can't
Speaker 2: help because I am somebody that thinks ahead thinking that is.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a fucking sate Ted Ted thinks
Speaker 3: See I didn't. I just thought, well, Vicky's being Vicky.
Speaker 3: She's trying to rile up the crowd. This one is
Speaker 3: already down with the sabotage.
Speaker 2: I fucking thought she did this on purpose, because then
Speaker 2: you saw Shannon shrink down.
Speaker 3: And say, well, I'm gonna have a sick I'll have a.
Speaker 2: Sip because she she also is probably nervous in the
Speaker 2: same situation and doesn't feel comfortable, and she knows, she
Speaker 2: knows that they could have just brought any cup out there,
Speaker 2: could have had a mocktail. I could have apple cider.
Speaker 2: She could have had a mocktail. But that didn't even
Speaker 2: have to be a discussion. I felt like it was
Speaker 2: a discussion because Vicky wanted to make a point of
Speaker 2: it that Shannon's still drinking. I can't help it.
Speaker 3: I always see that in people, you know, which is
Speaker 3: great about you, because I looked the other way, which
Speaker 3: is Vicky's trying to, you know, rile up the crowd.
Speaker 3: This is what they do. And maybe she just wasn't
Speaker 3: thinking about Shannon or something like that. Vicky's in her
Speaker 3: own you know, Hey, we got to sell the show,
Speaker 3: we got to crowd into it. Whereas you're like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is a pure sabotage. Interesting, but I always I
Speaker 3: have that natural no. But it's actually, Look, it's not
Speaker 3: a bad thing. It's just I didn't see it that way.
Speaker 3: And now that you proposed that, But do you think
Speaker 3: that Vicky would do that to Shannon? I mean, they
Speaker 3: are friends. She was there to support her at the
Speaker 3: Traders party.
Speaker 2: But I mean she got paid to be there.
Speaker 3: So what everything's not about money? Ted? Okay, maybe I'm
Speaker 3: wrong here, Erica, Well not everything. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I've done some things for free.
Speaker 2: I was there when she was there, and the whole
Speaker 2: time she's like not paying attention. She's ready to go
Speaker 2: either way. I think I think it was for show purposes.
Speaker 2: Was it to sell out Shannon? Maybe not? But was
Speaker 2: it for to try to create good television? Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, but that's why would they bring her in? Is
Speaker 3: because people do like to see Vicky on TV and
Speaker 3: I think she is good TV. She is good TV
Speaker 3: watching her, and she's why she's lasted.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Heather tells Alexis she should have brought John
Speaker 2: to the awards, and Alexis gets emotional. Alexis says, the
Speaker 2: legal battle is affecting her. Could could you explain to
Speaker 2: me how John suing Shannon over facelift money is emotionally
Speaker 2: affecting Alexis?
Speaker 3: I cannot, because unless you've personally ensued, which is quite
Speaker 3: an experience multiple times, who cares? You know? It's not
Speaker 3: your fight and no, it's you know you're you're emotional
Speaker 3: because you but then.
Speaker 2: I noticed these are but this is the other ship
Speaker 2: that I noticed, like clothes, like I noticed, like you
Speaker 2: know how some people are really good criers. Yeah?
Speaker 3: Were there no tears coming out of her face? I
Speaker 3: mean out of her eyeballs?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: No, her entire nose just turned bright red.
Speaker 3: But my nose does that, it does?
Speaker 2: Oh god, No, your eyes get like sparkling blue and big.
Speaker 3: What have you been analyzing the way I cried?
Speaker 2: Yes, I analyze how everyone cries. I have not the
Speaker 2: good thing about my crying is my lips get really big, teddy.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what it is. I didn't even
Speaker 3: you don't think I could have never been short for words,
Speaker 3: But damn it.
Speaker 2: I can analyze every person's cries, except I can't tell
Speaker 2: you about Juris because I've never seen her cry. Then
Speaker 2: the women write questions on Djenga tiles. I saw that
Speaker 2: Alexis pulls. Who do you hate? Alexis says, she hates
Speaker 2: the devil? I I have to tell you, Yeah, Alex's
Speaker 2: really drove me nuts this entire episode.
Speaker 3: I can tell she really got on your nurse.
Speaker 2: Why does she bug me so much? In real life?
Speaker 2: She didn't bug me that much.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you're affected by the show. Well, I
Speaker 3: can see why she would wear you down. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think you're not the look you know what, you're
Speaker 3: not the No, the whole audience is worn down by
Speaker 3: this woman. And I say that with love and kindness.
Speaker 3: But you know there's something the whole audiences but.
Speaker 2: They are they are.
Speaker 3: You can see it if you're feeling it. We're feeling,
Speaker 3: and imagine what everybody else is feeling. Like, my god, God,
Speaker 3: bless her. I don't know her, but she's really worked hard.
Speaker 3: She's worked hard for that, has worked hard for that. Wait,
Speaker 3: calls her a friend. Soon you're just a friend.
Speaker 2: Well that's where I was like, Emily, did you have
Speaker 2: one too many espresso?
Speaker 3: More teams. Emily's over there calling out the show, and
Speaker 3: they let it in.
Speaker 2: I can't when they when they love it, it's like
Speaker 2: a Bravo, Bravo, fucking Bravo moment. I love people let
Speaker 2: it in. But then Gina pulls how big is this penis?
Speaker 2: Because there's in past seasons they talked about her boyfriend
Speaker 2: having a small penis.
Speaker 3: Wait, who Travis has a small piece allegedly?
Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, then then Katie pulls, they show me your Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Then they continue on where Tamra says,
Speaker 2: take your pants off, pee in the yard, and then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did she peed on the by the pool? I
Speaker 3: was hoping that, Actually, Tamra, you are good TV. You
Speaker 3: know how Vicky's good TV. Tamra may be better TV
Speaker 3: because this she delivers. She don't give a fuck, she
Speaker 3: really doesn't. And I love it until after the fact, right,
Speaker 3: I love it about her, and then I go, oh, no.
Speaker 2: No, the aftermath is going to be beat.
Speaker 3: She's a sweet woman, she really is, and she gets
Speaker 3: a lot of shit, but she shows up and she
Speaker 3: does you know, she works hard. And I know you
Speaker 3: guys like criticize her and shit like that, but she's.
Speaker 2: She's a good person. Like she knew about my anxiety.
Speaker 2: She's the first person that called me. Like she she
Speaker 2: legitimately cares about her friendship and her relationships.
Speaker 3: And she goes to extra mouth to entertain you all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she really does.
Speaker 2: It's a TV show at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: It's It's tough though, because it's your life on steroids,
Speaker 3: being picked apart by not only the other women, but
Speaker 3: you know, the public. But Tam shows up.
Speaker 2: Tam shows up, then Emily, this.
Speaker 3: Is the meat.
Speaker 2: This is the meat.
Speaker 3: Now we're getting the episode.
Speaker 2: It's taken us a minute to get here, and it's like,
Speaker 2: bad shit, are you hitting on me? Oh god? Then
Speaker 2: this could be the highest rated episode. It's explicit this
Speaker 2: episode because Erica is.
Speaker 3: An SFW not safe for work. Does anybody even work anymore?
Speaker 3: We don't even have that's amazing.
Speaker 2: See we work out of my second like the half
Speaker 2: of my bedroom.
Speaker 3: This is a cool studio. This is great on this place.
Speaker 3: This is legit.
Speaker 2: Okay. I mean if only I wasn't filled with glass
Speaker 2: and we saw.
Speaker 3: Well you're talking about that blows out all the imperfections stuff.
Speaker 3: For that side lighting that makes me look a million.
Speaker 2: I've asked them a million times when before you post
Speaker 2: our fucking videos you put it there, put it fill
Speaker 2: down because I had a mustache. I was like, it's
Speaker 2: this side light, just put this down.
Speaker 3: But I like the front. Okay, let's just anyways.
Speaker 2: To when you guys see us with a mustache.
Speaker 3: You see me with like like extreme increases. I swear
Speaker 3: to god, if you met me in real life, I
Speaker 3: don't look like that.
Speaker 2: It's a real fright. What we're going through here?
Speaker 3: Oh for this side lighting.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know this is what happened when
Speaker 2: you pod from your bedroom. Then Emily, we're not even.
Speaker 3: In your bedroom ring like a big room. I wish
Speaker 3: my bedroom was this big.
Speaker 2: Then Emily asked Heather why she asked her to bring
Speaker 2: genes to the event and not everyone else. Heather says
Speaker 2: everyone had their own specific outfits. Emily tells Heather she
Speaker 2: got emotional at the event and felt singled out. Heather
Speaker 2: apologizes and says she didn't mean it that way. Heather
Speaker 2: says some of the women had two changes, and she
Speaker 2: wanted to make Emily feel like a star, so she
Speaker 2: had three. That that was one of those backhandeds. That
Speaker 2: was like the red lipstick comment. It was one of
Speaker 2: those like, but I gat I realized that you would
Speaker 2: probably come in feeling insecure, so I did the most
Speaker 2: to make you feel comfortable, and that is the worst
Speaker 2: way you can feel when you're feeling uncomfortable. You know what, though,
Speaker 2: do I think anything Heather did was malicious? Absolutely not
Speaker 2: until she got to her confessional and said everyone sent
Speaker 2: their measurements and hers came back and it was a twelve,
Speaker 2: and you know what, it was tight on her. That's
Speaker 2: where I was like, hold on, are we into shaming
Speaker 2: now at this point? Well, and if you've never actually struggled,
Speaker 2: and I love Heather this season, that line probably because
Speaker 2: of my.
Speaker 3: I get it. It cuts deep, It cuts deep, and
Speaker 3: it you know, look, we're all a little snarky, and
Speaker 3: we're all a little and this probably just went a
Speaker 3: little too far because that's not.
Speaker 2: You know, because I didn't necessarily mind tamor I mean,
Speaker 2: this isn't me being biased, but tamra Hers felt a
Speaker 2: little bit more light in the shade, Like she's like,
Speaker 2: I can't believe Heather would say something like that or
Speaker 2: do something like that. That's something I would do.
Speaker 3: Well, that was the best part about it is when
Speaker 3: you're self aware and you can make fun of your Like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe she said that, That's something I would say.
Speaker 2: Like that, that felt light. It didn't feel but like
Speaker 2: when Heather said that, I was like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're making it personal when it wasn't personal before.
Speaker 3: How about this? It was just a little bit too
Speaker 3: much information. Yeah, just say, well, I you.
Speaker 2: Know, so you did know, so you knew exactly, because
Speaker 2: before we're believing that you didn't really know. You're sending
Speaker 2: the measurements out, people are coming back. But now you're like, well,
Speaker 2: actually it was this.
Speaker 3: But then, in an attempt to defend your choice, yeah,
Speaker 3: I get it, but.
Speaker 2: I mean boo boo. But then Emily says, which I
Speaker 2: don't know how Alexis could have gotten this part confused.
Speaker 3: I love the way this whole fight broke out. And
Speaker 3: then Emily's calling Alexis a whack a doodle and a friend.
Speaker 3: I really got exciting.
Speaker 2: Well, because how did Alexis make this about her? How?
Speaker 2: How I cannot understand because all she said was standing
Speaker 2: next to Alexis, I didn't feel good in the dress.
Speaker 2: And then Alexis like, what do I have to do
Speaker 2: with that? I'm going through a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just be quiet at that moment and just
Speaker 3: let Emily finish what she was saying and let Emily
Speaker 3: have the moment. You don't have to jump on her moment.
Speaker 2: And she also wasn't coming at you, because how you
Speaker 2: aesthetically look, she was saying how she.
Speaker 3: Felt standing next to you, actually paying you a compliment, Alexis.
Speaker 2: But then she didn't stop.
Speaker 3: She kept going yeah, and that's when it got a
Speaker 3: little nuts.
Speaker 2: But then Emily starts to really come on hid. She
Speaker 2: tells Alexis to shut up. Yeah, she got upset, but
Speaker 2: then Emily asked Heather to chat separately. Heather questions why
Speaker 2: she brought it up in front of everyone. Emily says
Speaker 2: Heather is being rude and condescending. Heather asked Emily to
Speaker 2: be quiet for a second, and Emily tells her to
Speaker 2: fuck off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're not going anywhere with this were you know?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about a one on one after
Speaker 2: being things being brought up in a group?
Speaker 3: I think a one on one for me is always
Speaker 3: more effective because I think when the group starts yelling,
Speaker 3: like case in point, when Alexa starts making it about herself,
Speaker 3: you get off track and everybody starts yelling and it
Speaker 3: becomes loud. I prefer one on one after something like
Speaker 3: that because you get off topic.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I really wanted to say, hey, Teddy, you know what,
Speaker 3: can I please talk to you because I have something
Speaker 3: I'd like to say to you, not in front of
Speaker 3: everybody else for everybody else's.
Speaker 2: Opinion, right, But if you already have started the conversation
Speaker 2: at a table with the group. Then you're it's already
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: But it got hijacked. Yeah, it got hijacked. We got
Speaker 3: off topic. It became about everybody else's feelings and about
Speaker 3: you know, Alexis and everybody else. When Emily was really
Speaker 3: trying to talk to Heather about what made her feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Now, who didn't really see much this episode?
Speaker 3: Gina, Yeah, isn't that what you wanted?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So of producing this show, Well, you're always producing everything, Teddy,
Speaker 3: I don't. Probably one of the best producers. She's like,
Speaker 3: look at her, she knows anyway, you yeah, you're a producer.
Speaker 2: I think that this episode was good, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to tell all of our listeners what Salt Lake
Speaker 2: City is going to be better. I just watched it.
Speaker 3: Really, I've never watched that show. Is it good?
Speaker 2: It is so good. I'm loving Orange County what they're doing.
Speaker 2: But then you see a full blown shit show, and
Speaker 2: then it makes me I have to be honest with
Speaker 2: the Erica makes me worry a little bit about Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, look, I can only blow up once
Speaker 3: every ten years. I can't, you know, burn down my
Speaker 3: life more than once. I mean, there's enough there. There
Speaker 3: are multiple people on a show for a reason, Teddy.
Speaker 3: Maybe they can get to work.
Speaker 2: Oh is that going to be one of Is that
Speaker 2: what we're working with here.
Speaker 3: It's an ensemble show for a reason. Everybody you know,
Speaker 3: has to bring their life forward. There's nothing more I
Speaker 3: can give here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, thank you guys for tuning in to another
Speaker 2: episode of to Teas and a Pod with myself and Erica.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, guys, Thank you for having me
Speaker 3: Teddy of course,