1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and came 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Ridge Edge. 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Okay, guys, welcome to another episode to Teas in a Pod. 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna apologize in advance, which I don't think you should, 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: but I mean, I'm in that stage of my anxiety 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: where I lose my train of thought a little bit. Oh, 7 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: we're here for to cheese and a pod myself in Erica. 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: Well listen, that's okay. You're totally allowed to be in 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: that place and I will help you out if you 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: need it. 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Yeah, it started. It's normally, like I 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: just you know, I live with constant anxiety. 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, like just how long has that been since you 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: were little? 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: Since I was little? So it's never it's been one 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: of those things. But then there will be like like 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: spurts of time where it'll just get really intense and 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: almost of the time be after a panic attack. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: Yes. 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: So this past week I drove to the horse show. 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: Normally I always, you know, will get a ride or 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: do whatever, and I drove with Slate and it was 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: when no cars were on the road and it was fine. 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: But then driving home, Slaate went home with Edwin because 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: she had to get to her birthday and I hadn't 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: competed yet, so then I had to drive myself. And 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: so when I was on my horse about to show, 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: I started thinking about having to drive home and traffic 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: and the blah blah blah, and like I went completely black, 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: like had to yell out to the people outside the ring, 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: where am I going? Like forgot my course? No, And 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: I mean this is like nine in the morning, Like 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: there's no wow. And then I came out and I 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: had like threw up and no way, yes, gosh teddy. 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: And then it's now, you know what. We're a couple 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: of days later and I'm still in it. But it's 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: like it'll it'll disappear for a little waves. I know, 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: I know. 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: But it's when you feel like you're living outside of 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: your box. Yes, it's like you I yes, I've had 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: that feeling. It's terrible. And that's why I'm on into deepressants. 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm on I'm on a zoloft. So 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: like normally it's pretty much kept at Bay So I 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: don't know if it's just where I have so much 45 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: travel for work and. 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: Well, you've got a lot going on too. I think 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: you know, people know you from the pod, they know 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: you from the show, but I know you differently, and 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: you've got a lot going on, you know. So it's 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: a lot and you never know. And that's the thing too, 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: is that people see others and they think, well, their 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: life must be great, and yes it is, but there's 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: also a lot of stuff you don't see, and it 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 3: wears on you and we're all just human at the 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 3: end of the day. Everybody, Yeah, it sucks. 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: How are you doing. 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: I'm okay. I mean, I had a great therapy session yesterday, 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: which I think is important for me just to continue 59 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: to stay stable and steady and just not to have 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: my emotions take control of myself. 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: I'm okay. 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear you feel that way though, but 63 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm here. So we're gonna have a good time. 64 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna we're gonna have a good time talking about 65 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: other people's problems. You know what, Let's escape our own 66 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: shit and talk about David Badore, because that's. 67 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: Really this is really gonna take you right out of 68 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: your spot. 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Even though I was so saddened to see the reports 70 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: that watching True crime doesn't actually help people with anxiety disorder. 71 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 3: Okay, there is a problem with that. I asked my therapist. Okay, 72 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: because I'm always asking my therapist. Is shit, I fall 73 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: asleep to true crime? 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: Me too. It's relaxing to me. 75 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 3: Me too. Do you know that is a mostly in women. 76 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: I think it's more son like any man that I'm like, oh, 77 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: can we watch what are you doing? Yeah? I'm like, 78 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: what are you talking about? I relaxed to this? So 79 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: I took it up with my son, whos police officer. 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, no, that's a problem. He's like, you know, 81 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: I try everything I can to get away from this shit, 82 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: and here you are just blasting and lasting it. 83 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: As you're falling awape, like it can't be good. 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's like a trauma response. More investigation. 85 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: Whomever is out there that watches their listens, please let 86 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: us know what we're going. 87 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah why? And also if you need a good show, 88 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: Into the Fire on Netflix amazing. Oh, I'm going to 89 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: start that. I watched it last night. I mean it 90 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: it's good. Okay, I'll watch it all right. So this 91 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: first Orange County headline is David Badore's wife Leslie, seeks 92 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: domestic violence restraining order. He accuses her of extortion. 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: But isn't that what he's doing? Oh no, okay, yeah, 94 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: totally confused for a hot second, all right. 95 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: Essentially, Shannon's picker has always been off. 96 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: It seems this way. So far, we're over too, at 97 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: least as far as I know her. 98 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: Yes, So according to page six, Leslie Badour, there's a 99 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: docket for the Superior Court of California, Orange County. It 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: shows that she filed the request last Tuesday. She claims 101 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: her husband has been verbally abusive and harassed her in 102 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 2: front of all of her kids. I recorded the whole 103 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: incident and will provide videos to the court. All my 104 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: children are terrified by David's behavior. David truly needs help. 105 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: He gets an obsessed of mania state. I never know 106 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: when David's next mount down will be or how long 107 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: they will last. She leads, he once was cruel enough 108 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: to call her late father a pathetic loser that had 109 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: nothing and say that he deserved to die rough hard words, 110 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: hard words, And I'm not discrediting that. Most likely this 111 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: probably does happen. But we have to also turn back 112 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 2: time and remember Leslie's Walmart rage video. 113 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: Anything about Leslie, do you guys, Walmart rage, what are you? 114 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: Are you trying to tell me that Leslie is not 115 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: without sin? 116 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you that I think both parties 117 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: may have a little up rage. Yeah, well, because you 118 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: could go back in time and watch that. And she 119 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: posted the video herself. It was her having rage out Walmart, 120 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: and she posted the video like she was so in 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: her rage that she thought she was validated in it. 122 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just quit with the videos. Yeah, let's just 123 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: not video anything. 124 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: But have you ever been in an argument with someone, 125 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: and not on Housewives but in general, Yeah, and picked 126 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: up your camera and started. 127 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely not me neither. Well, I wouldn't even think to 128 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: do that. That's not when I'm angry. That's the last 129 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: thing I number one, you should never do that, Okay, 130 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: never do It's just not something that I would naturally 131 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: gravitate towards. 132 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, like my let me video you. 133 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really invested in the words that are coming 134 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: out of your mouth and how I'm going to destroy them, 135 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: not where my camera is, you know, how I'm going 136 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: to destroy what you're saying, not you know, oh my god, 137 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: let me get this on camera. Yeah I know. 138 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: Huh. 139 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's uh yeah. 140 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: But I feel like this has also happened a couple 141 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: of times, so I hope that both of them end 142 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: up in a better place. 143 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: This happened more than once. 144 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: Yes, I think they filed for divorce a couple of times, 145 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: and they both go back and forth, and and I think, 146 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is in all states, but 147 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: every time you file something in the court than it's 148 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: public record. So I don't know how much is being 149 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: leaked to the press or how much is actually just. 150 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: But do we care? I mean, these people aren't on 151 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 3: the show, right. 152 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't care. But it is the number 153 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: one headline that was listed by doubtload, so. 154 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: We care for today. Okay, great, we care enough to 155 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: talk about it with. You have to talk about it with, y'all. 156 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: I can tell you I probably care more about that 157 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: than I care about Katie insisting that Heather Dubrow called 158 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: paparazzi on herself. 159 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: We don't care, and Katie, I already told you what 160 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: to do last week, which is just say I'm sorry 161 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: and let it go. There's a really cool bird out here. 162 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on? 163 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's probably Eric's like Anyways, there's a bird, 164 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: there's a wild bird out here. Basically, you know, but 165 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: she said there is more evidence. She's doubling down on 166 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: her claim that Heather Dubrow called the paparazzi. My husband 167 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: and I have been in the media for twenty years. 168 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: We've known this person, and he is in charge of 169 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: a big company that controls the paparazzi, She says, though 170 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: she is willing to unveil more details of their conversation 171 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: on the matter. 172 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm not going to share our personal texts because I 173 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: respect his job and I respect his position, and I 174 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: wouldn't do that to him. I guess it's going to 175 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: look like that's not a good enough receipt, but I'm 176 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: going to be respectful to a friend, a dear friend. 177 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: Just let it go, babe, let it go. 178 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: But also, there's like three big paparazzi sites, So what 179 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: is their X seventeen? 180 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: You tell me shit. All I know is that I 181 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: always end up on the fucking daily Minil. That's all 182 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: I know. 183 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: And you order a lot of Postmates. 184 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: Do you know why? Because I'm number one, I never 185 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: learned how to cook Number two. I don't like to 186 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 3: cook a number three. I'm terrorized to go anywhere. I 187 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: love a postmate. 188 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Every time the paparazzi gets like during COVID they got 189 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 2: me leaving the Chick fil A with Remember when we 190 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: were and I had a mask on, gloves within you a. 191 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: Couple of times, girl, ooh my girl. 192 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: They never give me looking hot. 193 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: They never get anybody looking hot. 194 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: Well, the people that call them on themselves, they get 195 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: looking hot. 196 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: Here's the thing, what you know, I think you know 197 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: there are taxes in life. You know how you have 198 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: to pay, like federal and state taxes. There's a tax 199 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: to being in the public, and that is one of them. 200 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: There's a tax. It's like taxes. 201 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: You know. 202 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: You just have to accept the fact that you're going 203 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: to end up on some site looking like shit. And 204 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: that's just kind of the way it is. A friend 205 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: of mine, friends of mine asked me to go to 206 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: Larchmont Village on Saturday, and I was like no, because 207 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: I was having anxiety and I knew the paparazzi to 208 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: be there, and I didn't want to look ugly again, 209 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 3: and I wasn't going to put in the work to 210 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: put on, you know, a face or a little bit 211 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 3: of hair. Yeah, you're like I said, do you know what, 212 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: I don't have it in me. I just don't want 213 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: to look at it today. And you know what, this person, 214 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: these this couple, they're the same things. So they were like, 215 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: you know what, we get it. 216 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 217 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: I was like, thanks for the invite, but. 218 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: But I can't do it if you want to hang 219 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: out with in our pajamas at one of our homes. 220 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: I'm in mostly their home, yeah, because it's real good. 221 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: But you know, I hated having to say that to them, 222 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: which was my anxiety, which is honestly what you were 223 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: talking about is like so bad. I just don't want 224 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: to look at another ugly picture of myself to And I. 225 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 2: Think, you know, we'll get kind of into that as 226 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: we talk about like self image and what's going on. 227 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: Next one is well Alexis Bollino and John Jansen sign 228 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: a prenup. 229 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: Before he said no I saw that. 230 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: Did you see his small little scarf? Did you like it? 231 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: I didn't. You know, you always notice when people I 232 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: don't notice what these people are wearing. 233 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: I'm looking so so interesting to me because you always 234 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm such an expression in your own. 235 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm so self involved. But you know what 236 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: I do pay attention to is people are First off, 237 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: if you ask me, it's gonna sound kind of weird. 238 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: What someone looks like, I nine times out of ten 239 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: can tell you what they feel like to me more 240 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 3: so than what they exactly look like. So I'm never 241 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 3: really looking at someone's clothes. I'm really looking at their 242 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: face or how they feel to me. And I noticed 243 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: when he said no, he was like no. I thought, okay, cool, yeah, cool. 244 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: When when Erica goes cool like it's all bad, it's 245 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: all about yeah cool, it's good, cool, cool, okay, but 246 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: he says no, and then she says, we talked about it. 247 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: And then they asked if she'll take his last name, 248 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: and she said yes, right, one hundred percent, she answered, 249 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: immediately before sharing her new initials. 250 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: A J all the way, Oh that would be her name. 251 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean, look, what are your thoughts on 252 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: prenups if you were to get married again? 253 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: Well, I didn't have one with Tom, and I probably 254 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: should have. I don't know if anything would have saved 255 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: me because that going through, but maybe it would have helped. 256 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: I did end up with anything anyway, So I don't know. 257 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 3: You know what everybody needs to do their own thing. 258 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: I would advise, yes, get a prenup, because nine times 259 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: out of ten you just needed an extra layer protection. 260 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: And no, it's not romantic, and yes it puts a 261 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: damper on the whole love thing, but it's also a 262 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: reality of when and if God forbid things turn ugly, 263 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: you're protected at least in some way. And nobody ever 264 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: wants to think of that. 265 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: But would you have been offended when you first met Oh, 266 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: not at all. 267 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: He was very wealthy. I had nothing. 268 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: But would you be offended if he were to say 269 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: I need you to sign a prenup in order for 270 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: us to get married. 271 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: No, because he had everything and I had nothing, So 272 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: I would understand why he would want to protect himself. 273 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: But I don't think he ever had a prenup. I 274 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: was wife number three. I don't think he ever had 275 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 3: a prenup. That's interesting. 276 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: I mean I have a prenup. It's not great. Yeah, 277 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: it's a real shitty one. I sometimes just think. 278 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: Who cares? 279 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. 280 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: It was a place you were in at that time. 281 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my belongings when I met Edwin where 282 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: it was an English bulldog one Cardier bracelet and Mercedes 283 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: like something like but it was like years year like 284 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: super super old. 285 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: I had a red Toyota convertible silica and my clothes 286 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: were in trash bags. That was all I had nothing, 287 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: So anything was up from there. 288 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: But I also want to know, like where I got 289 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: that Cardia bracelet? Yeah, who gave it? Probably your dad? 290 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 291 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a gift to you. Maybe it 292 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: was from Edwin, like maybe he gave it to me 293 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: when you moved in No, like when he was my boyfriend. 294 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: Oh well, the fact that you don't remember it makes 295 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: me a little nervous. And where where is this bracelet today? 296 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: It's no idea. 297 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: Don't do separate property bit because this ain't it? Yeah, 298 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: this is half? Okay, ef, you got half? 299 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: The bulldog's been dead for eight years. 300 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: Where are your dogs? You have to you know, I 301 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: just want to say, I'm sorry to Bogart, but like 302 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: my dog, my beloved Thiago, has been uh he's been 303 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: gone for exactly a year. Oh my gosh. But wait 304 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: a second, I'm putting out the feelers because it's time 305 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: for me to get a new dog. It's time for 306 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: me to have a companion, and it's time for me 307 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: to get a new dog. So I'm reaching out to 308 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: anyone that. 309 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: Do you want the same kind of dog I do? 310 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: But it's a lot of work. But I don't think 311 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: that I'm a small dog girl. Someone changed my mind. 312 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 3: I don't know where are your dogs? 313 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: Well, so I had just to take you guys down 314 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: my quick dog timeline before we get into this. But 315 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: I had, you know, the bulldog when I met Edwin 316 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: who passed away of old age. And then we had 317 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: Khalisi who you met when you were on the show, 318 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: which was she was special. Yeah, she was the best 319 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: pom ever. And she took her to a doggy daycare 320 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: when we went out of town and she passed away there. 321 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: It was traumatic. And then we got these two little frenchies, right, 322 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: Havanna Havana and pork Chop Yea, and they were I mean, 323 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. I might get heat for this. 324 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: They weren't like the English bulldogs, like they were hell 325 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: on wheels and they chewed up our life and like 326 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: I I was going to keep them forever. And then 327 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: my brother came into town and you said, and he 328 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: lives on like a farm and he's he started playing 329 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: with them and he's an artist. He works from home, 330 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: and he's like, Teddy, I've always wanted French bulldogs. And 331 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: I was like, today is your dad? 332 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, spec I have a. 333 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: Gift for you. And then his girlfriend's looking at me 334 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: and she's like, oh wow. And so then I looked 335 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: at her and I go, what will it take? And 336 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: she's like a Gucci purse. I go go go up 337 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: to line. No, I go up to my closet. Pick 338 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: anyone you want. Oh. 339 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to take a shop. No oh, 340 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: And you let her take a bag. 341 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: I let her take a bag and a pair of 342 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: air Mays slides and then anything and then the two dogs, 343 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: the bag, the air May slides. My brother and his 344 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: girlfriend went on their merry way and they live a 345 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: happily life ever after. 346 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: The country. 347 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we just foster. We foster dogs so 348 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: that like you do, Yeah, we'll foster them and so 349 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: that the kids get that experience and that we can 350 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: also help the dogs. And while there trying to get adopted, 351 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: but like, we travel too much, and I realized it's 352 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: not fair to them. 353 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: It's not And that was one of the real things 354 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: that I've been struggling with was, you know, Okay, Erica, 355 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: you're by yourself. Don't rob me. You're by which is 356 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: why I'm getting the dog again. You're by yourself. You 357 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: live you know, you live alone. I've always had working dogs, 358 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: which is Emily's dog, I know, Toko. Yeah, he's beautiful, Emily, 359 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: And I thought, you know what, I travel. But at 360 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: the same time, like you know, I always have people 361 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: stay at the house. 362 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: I was going to say, you always have I always have. 363 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I always have people stay at the house. And 364 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: I've been looking at these Italian mastiffs. 365 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: That's a big ass dog. 366 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's my type. 367 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: You know. 368 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: I like big dogs. I'm a big she loves big dogs. 369 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: Because dogs, what is it that you do what we do. 370 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: At the beginning of Housewives. 371 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 3: Here my tagline Erica loves big dogs. Erica loves big dogs. 372 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 2: So in Beverly Hills, we love big dogs. 373 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: Well, big dogs need a long leash. I'm a big dog. 374 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: I need a long leash, you know. So there you go. 375 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: I'll never forget Ida. When I was young, I dated 376 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: this man and he was a man and he told 377 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: me that when we were talking about, you know, like, 378 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: are we dat He's like, Erica, I'm a big dog. 379 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: I need a long leash stuck with me for forever. 380 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm a big dog. I need 381 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: a fucking long leash too. I was on a short 382 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 3: leash for many year. 383 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, now I need you need one of 384 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: those retractable yes, but anyway, unleash. 385 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm looking for dogs and I would welcome some. 386 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: So people should slide into your dms. 387 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know if someone has a re your DMS, 388 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: like of course, yeah, I have some interesting things in there. Yeah, 389 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: it's never anybody wanting to like hook up, but they 390 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: there are interesting people that I've connected with, like different 391 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: artists and stuff. So if you have any suggestions or 392 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: if you know somebody that's got good, solid dogs, let 393 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: me know. Temperament is everything for me. 394 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, temperament is everything. Because we don't want to see 395 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: any of this next thing, which is Alexis Billino bringing 396 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: receipts to Real Housewives Orange County Season eighteen reunion but 397 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: not video footage. 398 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 399 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: I know. When Alexis was a guest on Page six 400 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: Virtual reality podcast, she explained how she was going to 401 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: expose the truth at the reunion. She said, I know 402 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: people make fun of it, but I'm telling you now, 403 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: if you're going up against lying and the truth, you 404 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: better have the receipts. My future husband is the one 405 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: that's being massacred and it's not true. So I am 406 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: not going to drop it. I'm going to show the 407 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: truth and tell the truth. But if you don't, if 408 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: you're not showing the videos, what are you showing? 409 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: Well that's the big gotcha, gotcha? What do you have Alexis? 410 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: And why are you fighting his fight? Yeah? 411 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 2: Let him do it. 412 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, let the man do his own work, let him. 413 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: Do his shit. Like it actually concerns me. She's been 414 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: so right or die for you know her ex Jim 415 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: Bollino as well. She's so ride or die for them 416 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: all the time. Like if I think there's a moment 417 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: where you pull yourself back from doing that. But maybe 418 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I pus, I just don't speak of the person. 419 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: Well, I think that. Look, Shannon versus Alexis has been 420 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: very entertaining, and you know, John and the threesome has 421 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 3: been very entertaining. But I don't know what Alexis gets 422 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: in the long I'm always looking at the like I 423 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: always play the long game, which is where does this 424 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: get me at the end of the day. And I 425 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: don't know if this gets her anything. 426 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: Well, what I have started to think of it. 427 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Yes? You know what I mean? Like, 428 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: what is this really buy you? 429 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: Here? And correct me if I'm wrong. I actually started 430 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: thinking the fact that Alexis came onto the show and 431 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 2: Shannon's been able to talk about the John Janssen stuff 432 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: has really lightened the conversation and regards to the Duy 433 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: on like it's actually a savior. 434 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: It's actually shifted the focus from the Duy to this 435 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: as he's being portrayed bad man and this girl friend Alexis, 436 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 3: that's you know, protecting him and in some ways bullying Shannon. 437 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: I mean, if you really want to, if you really 438 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: want it down to what's happening. 439 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: Here, because then it's like you kind of forget. I mean, 440 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: as much as there's empathy for Shannon, I'm like, you 441 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: should be so happy that this happened, because if this didn't. 442 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: Well you would have heard as d Y d U 443 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: I and how you were a hypocrite against Gina and 444 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 3: all the other ships. Yeah, like it would have been 445 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 3: because we know how these things go. 446 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so it starts out with Katie, Emily, and 447 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: Jen meet for lunch. Emily says her dress was a 448 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: size twelve at the fashion show, and Alexis was a 449 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: size two. Emily says she was the only one who 450 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: had to bring her own genes. Emily thinks Heather's views 451 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 2: views her as a big girl. I love when Emily 452 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: asks if she's valid in her feelings and Katie is like, 453 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 2: oh yeah, girl, because I want anybody but me to 454 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: have to go after Heather at this point. 455 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I think that Emily truly feels some 456 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: way about this. 457 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I think that being on a 458 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: show like this. 459 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: Only enhances it. And I'm telling you, any flaw, any insecurity, 460 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: any crack, only becomes more exposed or what is the 461 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: word bigger for lack of a better word, on a 462 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: show like. 463 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: This, Yeah, I mean, I think you can be like 464 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: a size double zero and still feel it's however you're 465 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: feeling like emotionally, however you're feeling with the group. I mean, 466 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: I remember even walking in and somebody making a comment 467 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: about like I think I wore like a different colored 468 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: lipstick one day and somebody's like, well, that's not a 469 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: character for you. Why are you wearing that coat? And 470 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: I remember like feeling like having that moment of like shit, 471 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: like do I look like I'm trying to like all 472 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: these weird insecurities. Sure that happened because it wasn't necessarily 473 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: a compliment, but it wasn't necessarily a put down. 474 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: No, I see this is and you ride this place 475 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: where if I acknowledge something, oh hey, that's different. Now 476 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: it's on you to you know, now you're in your 477 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: head about are they making fun of me? Or you know, 478 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: what does that mean? And then it becomes this whole 479 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: big thing in your head because you're also different. 480 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: You're accepting. You know that at some point somebody is 481 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: going to be out to get you on these shows, 482 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: so your defenses are up. 483 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: Well, if they aren't, they will be after your first season. 484 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: But because I know in real life, you walk into 485 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: your friend group and they're like, hey girl, what are 486 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: you doing with the red lipstick? And I'm like, try 487 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: something new. 488 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: You know, like, well you'll be embraced, And here you 489 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: run the risk of not being embraced as a matter 490 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 3: of fact, and then you turn inward. 491 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, we'll get more into this conversation 492 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: later as the show goes on, because I think that's 493 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: where it really. 494 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: But she blossoms for her. 495 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, she starts expressing how she's feeling, and I understand, 496 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: regardless of if it has to do with weight or 497 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: whatever it may be, we all go through that, yep, 498 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: in some capacity. Then Shannon says John's lawyer wants the 499 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 2: videos for blackmail purposes and they're going to file against her. 500 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: The reason they wouldn't accept her offer is because they 501 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: want to still keep those videos of her allegedly on 502 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: the ring camera. Whatever it is that we don't know. 503 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: That's just like a threat though. That's like having something 504 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: hanging over your head, you know, that's just kind of weird. 505 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: Which is actually terrible. There's nothing Also, she doesn't know 506 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: what's on there. To me, there's nothing worse than the unknown. 507 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: Of course, because if she doesn't remember, then you know, 508 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: you're filling in the blanks with the worst case scenarios, 509 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: and it's like this thing dangling out there. Well, you know, 510 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: we still have this. 511 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: It's emotional warfare. 512 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's just mean. 513 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: But also like, if you're so happy in your new 514 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: life and somebody's willing to pay you, Like I'm here 515 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: to tell you. If if I was suing you tomorrow 516 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: for seventy five thousand and you came back and offered 517 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: me fifty thousand and never talk about it again, I'd 518 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: be like, great, great, that's the end of that fifty 519 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: thousand dollars richer, and I'm done right. 520 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: And let's have a non disclosure agreement and you know, 521 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 3: I mean a confidentiality agreement. Excuse me and move on 522 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: with our lives. You never talk about it. I never 523 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: talk about it. 524 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: The end, and now I have my money that I wanted. 525 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: But this doesn't seem to be about money, No, it isn't. 526 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: It's about shame. Yeah, it's about shame. Yeah, she is terrible, which. 527 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: Is it's just terrible. 528 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: And I'm sure she already feels a shit ton of shame. 529 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to add to that. And Alexis 530 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: doesn't need to add to that. And John, look, they 531 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: they know what they're doing. 532 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not okay. Then Heather was asked to present 533 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 2: at the Glad Awards. Heather and Meredith present the award. 534 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: Alexis also at the event to support her children. This 535 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: is a nice moment, of course, it is. We love Glad, 536 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 2: We love Glad. I think it's it's good that both 537 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: of them have been open about sharing as long as 538 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: their kids are comfortable with whatever they're sharing. 539 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: As long as their kids are comfortable, which they seem 540 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: to be. 541 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, which they seem to be, and they seem to 542 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: be very well loved, and so we love that. Yeah, 543 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: there's not not much more to comment. Nothing really happens 544 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: at this event of drama's sake, which is nice. Well, 545 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: you guys, we do it there. We love to ruin 546 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: a charity event. 547 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but not please, there's enough. We can wait, you know, 548 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: there's enough to go on. 549 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: There's nothing more than a housewife loves than to ruin 550 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: a charity event. Then Katie Tamra and their daughters go 551 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: candle making. 552 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: Which I thought was sweet. 553 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: That was nice Tamra, I audibly laughed when she's like, 554 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: mine smells like medicine because it's just so well. 555 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: Yes, she did not pick up, you know, florals. She 556 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: picked a stringent. 557 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's probably what I would pick because 558 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: I have no idea how to do anything arts and crafty. 559 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: But you know what you like to smell like? Right? 560 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. 561 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: Are you Do you wear perfume? 562 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 2: I wear Kai, which well I wore it for years 563 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: and then there was somebody else on our show that 564 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: came in wearing it and I had to stop. They 565 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: told you to No, I just smelled them, smelling like 566 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 2: you mean, but. 567 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 3: What about you getting a signature sent now? 568 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 569 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. 570 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: I mean, is that something you can help me with? 571 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: I you know, I recently started collecting perfume, and because 572 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: I didn't wear it for so long and now I 573 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: do and I really enjoy it. Yeah, I've got some 574 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 3: I got I've I've bought some bottles. 575 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 2: Well, I like the I prefer the oil, yeah, the spray. 576 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 3: Sure, but well, someone sent her something that she can 577 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 3: try out. 578 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, because you know, I'm having conflicting smell. 579 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 3: Do you like Santa La? Do you like Flora? What 580 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: do you like? I have Kai smell like, I don't even. 581 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: Know kais I have no, don't. I don't have it on. 582 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: I sometimes I put it on, sometimes I don't. I 583 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: stopped wearing it when I was on the show, because 584 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: then I'd be like, oh, we smell the same. 585 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 3: Well, you need your own signature. 586 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: Smell wow, smell scent scent miud smell smeile MoU shmoo 587 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: sm But Tama tells them to be careful who they 588 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: procreate with. 589 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: Amen. 590 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: Amen. Sophia says she doesn't want to get married to 591 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: have or have kids. 592 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: Good for Sophia. 593 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 2: I love that, Sophia, And I mean, I can say this, 594 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: I thought the same thing. I wanted to get married 595 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: when I was younger, but I didn't want to have kids. 596 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: Look, it can change how she feels right now. That's fine, 597 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: and so it's great that Sophia feels that way now. 598 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: She may not feel that way later. It's all good 599 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: even if she does feel that way later. Everybody's allowed 600 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: to live their life. Nobody nobody's hurting anybody. 601 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: And also she's allowed to express how she's feeling in 602 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: the moment. I love that Sophia is kind of just 603 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: who she is no matter what. Yes, because she's never 604 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: been on the show, we have to remember she's a 605 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: essentially been. Her mom has been a part of the 606 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: show since Sofia was what is it three years old. 607 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of like Portia who doesn't know it I was. 608 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: Now, but she was never on any season of Orange 609 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: County until this one. 610 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 3: Good for her, I mean, for whatever reason. But she 611 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: seems totally comfortable, Yeah, and just herself, which is wonderful. 612 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah for you. And then Tamra says Simon was not 613 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: a great husband or dad. She says it's hard because 614 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: he gave her children, but a part of her hates him. 615 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 3: Well, okay, maybe we keep that part inside. Yeah, I 616 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: mean because my mother used to say that about my father, 617 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: who you know, I met when I was twenty five. 618 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: It didn't go great, but she would say things like 619 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: you look like your dad or da da da da, 620 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: And I was like eh, And she didn't say it 621 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: in a loving way, so that maybe I would have 622 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: kept to myself. That's and you know what I mean. 623 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: And my biggest thing that I've always said to both 624 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: my parents, because their favorite thing to do is when 625 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: I pissed them off, to call me the other one's name. Yeah, 626 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: Like they'll be like. 627 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: Oh, look at look at John. Okay John, you know 628 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: what my mother's to do the same thing. 629 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: What are you a little Vicky? And I'm like, whoa, 630 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: And I hate it. 631 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,239 Speaker 3: And I hated it too, And I didn't even know 632 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: my dad. 633 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't know him, mom, And it just 634 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: gives still to this day, they will both it'll still 635 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: start to come out and I'll be like, please don't 636 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: say it. It's actually bothersome to me because I love. 637 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: I have love for both of you, absolutely, and for 638 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: you to put it out there as if it's a negative. 639 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: Makes me feel weird. 640 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: And also, you two chose each other. 641 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: I didn't choose you, No, you did not. 642 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: For the record, like I wasn't like out there just 643 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: like a random looking for Vickian you know, John, I 644 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: wasn't looking for Jack and Diane. 645 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: I was just you know, I wasn't So I don't 646 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: want to hear it, and I agree it makes me. 647 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: It made me feel weird too when I was a kid, Oh, 648 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: look at your Latin daddy. You look like you're Latin daddy. 649 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you guys, I still know this, but you know, 650 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't even know what he 651 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: looks like. Mom. 652 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: Does she never show you a picture? Yeah? 653 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: I met him later. I would show me a picture, 654 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: but I didn't think I looked like, but how like, how. 655 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: Did she kind of and even introduce that to you? Like, 656 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: was there like a photo book or was there anything. 657 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: My mother and my grandmother would talk about my father, 658 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: and I met my uncle when I was like four 659 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: or five, so I sort of knew of them, but 660 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: I did not and I heard stories about my father. 661 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: Did you guys all live in the same town. 662 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: No, he left, okay, so he actually lives on the 663 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: West Coast and I lived in Atlanta. I was born 664 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: and raised in Atlanta, So no, we did not live 665 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: in the same town, so he was nowhere near. And 666 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: so like when my mother would get angry, Oh there's 667 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: your dad. 668 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: You know. 669 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna say his name because he didn't 670 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: need all that and I don't either, but yeah, yeah 671 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: I would. My mother would do the same thing, and 672 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: my grandmother a little bit, and I would just be like, 673 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: you know, I don't even know this, dude, Why are 674 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: you saying that? 675 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it doesn't and it doesn't feel complimentary. 676 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe Tama would have just kept it short. 677 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: But either way, I think that we are seeing that 678 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: both Tamra's daughter and Katie's daughter have have a hard 679 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: relationship with their dad. 680 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: And Katie said that in her confessional, yeah, that they 681 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: relate on this level. 682 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: And then uh, Shannon and VICKI fly to Saint Louis. 683 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: For the Trace to make up. But I guess it's dose. 684 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: It's dose. So I had to do some research on 685 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: this because the way they present this is as if 686 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: it's a well oiled machine that's been going on for years. 687 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: You mean the show, the show, the Trace make a show, yeah, 688 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: like when you like machine. Oh, sorry to bring myself 689 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: into you're like, hold on anyways, the next pretty nice 690 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: to let yeah actually actually yeah, yeah, you can buy 691 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: tickets now. But they make it seem like there was 692 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: a Lee East. I don't know, like you would think 693 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: it had been going on for years. How many shows 694 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: were there? Three three? Three three shows Trace? 695 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: There was three shows, and now there's squattro shows with 696 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: dos amgas. 697 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 698 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: So when they're anybody who's. 699 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: Being standards, I'm so sorry. 700 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so sorry. I have to say, when you 701 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: think of something that's a well oiled machine, it's not 702 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: three fucking shows. No. 703 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: Three shows are basically rehearsal, yeah, and show dress rehearsal. 704 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: Three. I mean they could use three more shows to 705 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: work on their current show. 706 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure you need three more maybe 707 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: private rehearsals before we put it back on the road. Yeah, 708 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: but I gotta you know, the time to reformulate the 709 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: show is not in front of the audience. 710 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: No. 711 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: The tapping. Did you ever tap as a child? Because 712 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: I did? 713 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I did with my mini mouse here of course, 714 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: like you. 715 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: Know, everybody's shuffle ball change and shuffle step and you know, 716 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: heel toe tap, heel toe tap. Yeah, I don't know 717 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: that they were giving me their best well and. 718 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: Why they're so frustrated after for tam or leaving when 719 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: they knew. But then the next thing, I'm like, why 720 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: are they acting like they're Taylor and Beyonce? But then 721 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: Vicky kept comparing herself to Adele. 722 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: The Adele thing was a reach, you know, like the Adele. Yeah, 723 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: we're like Adele. 724 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: I was like, are you to Lulu? 725 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: Like I'm I'm listen. I think that we all admire 726 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: certain people. 727 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: You know, I could compare my Like, if I was 728 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: going to compare myself to someone, I'm trying to think 729 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: of who would. 730 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: Be like Harymon is the Thief of Joy, Teddy don't 731 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: do it right. 732 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, if I were, it would probably be 733 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: somebody who's, you know, a pain in the act. Like 734 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be Adele. It wouldn't be a mega superstar 735 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: selling out. 736 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, look with the world's best voice. 737 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: When I can't even figure out my T shirt slingshot. 738 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: That was interesting too. Adele does T shirt slingshot. I 739 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: did not know that. But she's done at MLB games. 740 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: I've seen them done at baseball games, like the Angels 741 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: us to love. 742 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: It, but they have like a gun that kind of 743 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 2: tests them out. 744 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: Maybe not like with a slingshot in a club in 745 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: Saint louis Is said Saint Louis. I think I actually 746 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 3: loved Saint Louis. I had a good time there. 747 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: I did too. Then Jen asked her son Dawson to 748 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: be honest with her about not coming home before curfew. 749 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: Dawson says he doesn't want to come to the house. 750 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: Dawson says he doesn't have personal space. It would be 751 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 2: better to go to his dad's place. And then Jen 752 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 2: gets emotional and says she'd be better about giving him 753 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: his space, but she'll never stop being his mom. 754 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So Hey, I have a thirty two year old son. 755 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: This is par for the course. They want to be 756 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: with their dad. They don't like to be near their mother. 757 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: Don't take it personally, Jen, I promise you he'll come 758 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 3: back around. It's going to take a little while. But 759 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: he's also in my opinion, like you know, you want 760 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: boys to want to be independent. You don't want them 761 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 3: to be stuck at home. I'm not saying that is this, 762 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: but can. 763 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: We do it? Check on how old Dawson is. 764 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: He's in high school. I thought, right, But it's okay 765 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: to want to live with your dad. I think it's 766 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 3: totally okay to okay with that. 767 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about him wanting to live with his dad. 768 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: You do have to come home. You can't break her. 769 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: But the structure is what I think is problematic. 770 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: He's seventeen. He should be home. 771 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: And when she said, I don't want you to get 772 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: mad at me when I tell you have to wake 773 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: up and go to school, I think, what ends up happening? 774 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: I know I did this when I would switch between 775 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: both my parents' houses. 776 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 3: Which one was John or Vicky? Which one was more lax? 777 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 3: My mom? 778 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: Oh, but I was very manipulative, like I would use 779 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: the other parent to get out of certain situations. Daddie, Yes, 780 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: because as as I knew that they couldn't work together, 781 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: Oh you just played them. Yeah. Then I was like, well, great, 782 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: well I have the upper hand in every siture. You're 783 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: not talking to each other. 784 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 3: I got my. 785 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: Own way, which is I'm not saying Dawson. 786 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: Is doing this, but I'm saying Dawson, if you're listening. 787 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 2: But Dawson, if you're not going to school on time, 788 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: you're breaking curfew. 789 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: It's not acceptable in either home you got. You're seventeen 790 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 3: years old. You have to come. You cannot break curfew. 791 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: You need to go to school. Nothing good happens if 792 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: you do. If you know, don't go to school and 793 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: break curfew. I can promise you that. 794 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 2: But Jen's ex husband did used to work for Jen's 795 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: dad and now he doesn't. 796 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: Oh so, but her parents look nice. We met her. 797 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 3: I remember seeing her parents on this season. 798 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: The next sweet But I did appreciate the conversation where 799 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: Jen says that she wants more for Dawson than what 800 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: she created for herself. She's like, she's a very honest moment, 801 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: and we all want more. I think every parent wants more. 802 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: And I kind of appreciate her vulnerability where she will 803 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: open up about that kind of stuff because not a 804 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: lot of women, not a lot of housewives are going 805 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: to do that. 806 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 3: No, and they're not really. She's been criticized for a 807 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 3: lot of things like not having a job, not paying 808 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 3: her bills. We see this scene with her son, So 809 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: you do have to give it to her there. You're 810 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: right about that. There are a lot of people that 811 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 3: would definitely shield the audience the opposite way, of course, 812 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 3: and you know, try to make that not happen at all. 813 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: But then Shannon and Vicky start their show. Vicky wants 814 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 2: to start it with a shot of tequila. I can't 815 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: help because I am somebody that thinks ahead thinking that is. 816 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: I thought it was a fucking sate Ted Ted thinks 817 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 3: See I didn't. I just thought, well, Vicky's being Vicky. 818 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: She's trying to rile up the crowd. This one is 819 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: already down with the sabotage. 820 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: I fucking thought she did this on purpose, because then 821 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: you saw Shannon shrink down. 822 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: And say, well, I'm gonna have a sick I'll have a. 823 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: Sip because she she also is probably nervous in the 824 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 2: same situation and doesn't feel comfortable, and she knows, she 825 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: knows that they could have just brought any cup out there, 826 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: could have had a mocktail. I could have apple cider. 827 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: She could have had a mocktail. But that didn't even 828 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: have to be a discussion. I felt like it was 829 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: a discussion because Vicky wanted to make a point of 830 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: it that Shannon's still drinking. I can't help it. 831 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: I always see that in people, you know, which is 832 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 3: great about you, because I looked the other way, which 833 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 3: is Vicky's trying to, you know, rile up the crowd. 834 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: This is what they do. And maybe she just wasn't 835 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: thinking about Shannon or something like that. Vicky's in her 836 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 3: own you know, Hey, we got to sell the show, 837 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: we got to crowd into it. Whereas you're like, hey, 838 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: this is a pure sabotage. Interesting, but I always I 839 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: have that natural no. But it's actually, Look, it's not 840 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: a bad thing. It's just I didn't see it that way. 841 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 3: And now that you proposed that, But do you think 842 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 3: that Vicky would do that to Shannon? I mean, they 843 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 3: are friends. She was there to support her at the 844 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 3: Traders party. 845 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: But I mean she got paid to be there. 846 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 3: So what everything's not about money? Ted? Okay, maybe I'm 847 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 3: wrong here, Erica, Well not everything. I mean, you know, 848 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: I've done some things for free. 849 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: I was there when she was there, and the whole 850 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: time she's like not paying attention. She's ready to go 851 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 2: either way. I think I think it was for show purposes. 852 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: Was it to sell out Shannon? Maybe not? But was 853 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: it for to try to create good television? Yes? 854 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 3: Okay, but that's why would they bring her in? Is 855 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: because people do like to see Vicky on TV and 856 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 3: I think she is good TV. She is good TV 857 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 3: watching her, and she's why she's lasted. 858 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Heather tells Alexis she should have brought John 859 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: to the awards, and Alexis gets emotional. Alexis says, the 860 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: legal battle is affecting her. Could could you explain to 861 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: me how John suing Shannon over facelift money is emotionally 862 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 2: affecting Alexis? 863 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 3: I cannot, because unless you've personally ensued, which is quite 864 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 3: an experience multiple times, who cares? You know? It's not 865 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: your fight and no, it's you know you're you're emotional 866 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: because you but then. 867 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: I noticed these are but this is the other ship 868 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: that I noticed, like clothes, like I noticed, like you 869 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 2: know how some people are really good criers. Yeah? 870 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 3: Were there no tears coming out of her face? I 871 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 3: mean out of her eyeballs? 872 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: Well? 873 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 2: No, her entire nose just turned bright red. 874 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: But my nose does that, it does? 875 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: Oh god, No, your eyes get like sparkling blue and big. 876 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 3: What have you been analyzing the way I cried? 877 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I analyze how everyone cries. I have not the 878 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 2: good thing about my crying is my lips get really big, teddy. 879 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 3: I don't even know what it is. I didn't even 880 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 3: you don't think I could have never been short for words, 881 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 3: But damn it. 882 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: I can analyze every person's cries, except I can't tell 883 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: you about Juris because I've never seen her cry. Then 884 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: the women write questions on Djenga tiles. I saw that 885 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 2: Alexis pulls. Who do you hate? Alexis says, she hates 886 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 2: the devil? I I have to tell you, Yeah, Alex's 887 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: really drove me nuts this entire episode. 888 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: I can tell she really got on your nurse. 889 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 2: Why does she bug me so much? In real life? 890 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: She didn't bug me that much. 891 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 3: Well, I think you're affected by the show. Well, I 892 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 3: can see why she would wear you down. I mean, 893 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 3: I think you're not the look you know what, you're 894 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 3: not the No, the whole audience is worn down by 895 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 3: this woman. And I say that with love and kindness. 896 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 3: But you know there's something the whole audiences but. 897 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 2: They are they are. 898 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: You can see it if you're feeling it. We're feeling, 899 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: and imagine what everybody else is feeling. Like, my god, God, 900 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 3: bless her. I don't know her, but she's really worked hard. 901 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 3: She's worked hard for that, has worked hard for that. Wait, 902 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 3: calls her a friend. Soon you're just a friend. 903 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: Well that's where I was like, Emily, did you have 904 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 2: one too many espresso? 905 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 3: More teams. Emily's over there calling out the show, and 906 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: they let it in. 907 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: I can't when they when they love it, it's like 908 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: a Bravo, Bravo, fucking Bravo moment. I love people let 909 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 2: it in. But then Gina pulls how big is this penis? 910 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 2: Because there's in past seasons they talked about her boyfriend 911 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: having a small penis. 912 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 3: Wait, who Travis has a small piece allegedly? 913 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, then then Katie pulls, they show me your Yeah, 914 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 2: I don't like that. Then they continue on where Tamra says, 915 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 2: take your pants off, pee in the yard, and then. 916 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, did she peed on the by the pool? I 917 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 3: was hoping that, Actually, Tamra, you are good TV. You 918 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 3: know how Vicky's good TV. Tamra may be better TV 919 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 3: because this she delivers. She don't give a fuck, she 920 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 3: really doesn't. And I love it until after the fact, right, 921 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 3: I love it about her, and then I go, oh, no. 922 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 2: No, the aftermath is going to be beat. 923 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,959 Speaker 3: She's a sweet woman, she really is, and she gets 924 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 3: a lot of shit, but she shows up and she 925 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 3: does you know, she works hard. And I know you 926 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: guys like criticize her and shit like that, but she's. 927 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 2: She's a good person. Like she knew about my anxiety. 928 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: She's the first person that called me. Like she she 929 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: legitimately cares about her friendship and her relationships. 930 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 3: And she goes to extra mouth to entertain you all. Yeah, 931 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 3: she really does. 932 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: It's a TV show at the end of the day, 933 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: it is. 934 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 3: It's It's tough though, because it's your life on steroids, 935 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 3: being picked apart by not only the other women, but 936 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 3: you know, the public. But Tam shows up. 937 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 2: Tam shows up, then Emily, this. 938 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 3: Is the meat. 939 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:49,919 Speaker 2: This is the meat. 940 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 3: Now we're getting the episode. 941 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 2: It's taken us a minute to get here, and it's like, 942 00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: bad shit, are you hitting on me? Oh god? Then 943 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 2: this could be the highest rated episode. It's explicit this 944 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 2: episode because Erica is. 945 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 3: An SFW not safe for work. Does anybody even work anymore? 946 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 3: We don't even have that's amazing. 947 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: See we work out of my second like the half 948 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: of my bedroom. 949 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 3: This is a cool studio. This is great on this place. 950 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 3: This is legit. 951 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 2: Okay. I mean if only I wasn't filled with glass 952 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 2: and we saw. 953 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 3: Well you're talking about that blows out all the imperfections stuff. 954 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: For that side lighting that makes me look a million. 955 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: I've asked them a million times when before you post 956 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 2: our fucking videos you put it there, put it fill 957 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: down because I had a mustache. I was like, it's 958 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 2: this side light, just put this down. 959 00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 3: But I like the front. Okay, let's just anyways. 960 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: To when you guys see us with a mustache. 961 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 3: You see me with like like extreme increases. I swear 962 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 3: to god, if you met me in real life, I 963 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 3: don't look like that. 964 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: It's a real fright. What we're going through here? 965 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 3: Oh for this side lighting. 966 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know this is what happened when 967 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: you pod from your bedroom. Then Emily, we're not even. 968 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 3: In your bedroom ring like a big room. I wish 969 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 3: my bedroom was this big. 970 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 2: Then Emily asked Heather why she asked her to bring 971 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: genes to the event and not everyone else. Heather says 972 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: everyone had their own specific outfits. Emily tells Heather she 973 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 2: got emotional at the event and felt singled out. Heather 974 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 2: apologizes and says she didn't mean it that way. Heather 975 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 2: says some of the women had two changes, and she 976 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: wanted to make Emily feel like a star, so she 977 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 2: had three. That that was one of those backhandeds. That 978 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 2: was like the red lipstick comment. It was one of 979 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 2: those like, but I gat I realized that you would 980 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 2: probably come in feeling insecure, so I did the most 981 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 2: to make you feel comfortable, and that is the worst 982 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 2: way you can feel when you're feeling uncomfortable. You know what, though, 983 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 2: do I think anything Heather did was malicious? Absolutely not 984 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: until she got to her confessional and said everyone sent 985 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: their measurements and hers came back and it was a twelve, 986 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 2: and you know what, it was tight on her. That's 987 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: where I was like, hold on, are we into shaming 988 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 2: now at this point? Well, and if you've never actually struggled, 989 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: and I love Heather this season, that line probably because 990 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 2: of my. 991 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 3: I get it. It cuts deep, It cuts deep, and 992 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 3: it you know, look, we're all a little snarky, and 993 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 3: we're all a little and this probably just went a 994 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 3: little too far because that's not. 995 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 2: You know, because I didn't necessarily mind tamor I mean, 996 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 2: this isn't me being biased, but tamra Hers felt a 997 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: little bit more light in the shade, Like she's like, 998 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: I can't believe Heather would say something like that or 999 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: do something like that. That's something I would do. 1000 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 3: Well, that was the best part about it is when 1001 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 3: you're self aware and you can make fun of your Like, 1002 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 3: I can't believe she said that, That's something I would say. 1003 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 2: Like that, that felt light. It didn't feel but like 1004 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 2: when Heather said that, I was like, all of a sudden, 1005 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 2: you're making it personal when it wasn't personal before. 1006 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 3: How about this? It was just a little bit too 1007 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 3: much information. Yeah, just say, well, I you. 1008 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 2: Know, so you did know, so you knew exactly, because 1009 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 2: before we're believing that you didn't really know. You're sending 1010 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: the measurements out, people are coming back. But now you're like, well, 1011 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: actually it was this. 1012 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: But then, in an attempt to defend your choice, yeah, 1013 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 3: I get it, but. 1014 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 2: I mean boo boo. But then Emily says, which I 1015 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: don't know how Alexis could have gotten this part confused. 1016 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 3: I love the way this whole fight broke out. And 1017 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 3: then Emily's calling Alexis a whack a doodle and a friend. 1018 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 3: I really got exciting. 1019 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,240 Speaker 2: Well, because how did Alexis make this about her? How? 1020 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: How I cannot understand because all she said was standing 1021 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,959 Speaker 2: next to Alexis, I didn't feel good in the dress. 1022 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 2: And then Alexis like, what do I have to do 1023 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: with that? I'm going through a lot. 1024 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just be quiet at that moment and just 1025 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 3: let Emily finish what she was saying and let Emily 1026 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 3: have the moment. You don't have to jump on her moment. 1027 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: And she also wasn't coming at you, because how you 1028 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: aesthetically look, she was saying how she. 1029 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 3: Felt standing next to you, actually paying you a compliment, Alexis. 1030 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: But then she didn't stop. 1031 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 3: She kept going yeah, and that's when it got a 1032 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 3: little nuts. 1033 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 2: But then Emily starts to really come on hid. She 1034 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: tells Alexis to shut up. Yeah, she got upset, but 1035 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 2: then Emily asked Heather to chat separately. Heather questions why 1036 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 2: she brought it up in front of everyone. Emily says 1037 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 2: Heather is being rude and condescending. Heather asked Emily to 1038 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 2: be quiet for a second, and Emily tells her to 1039 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: fuck off. 1040 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're not going anywhere with this were you know? 1041 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 2: How do you feel about a one on one after 1042 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: being things being brought up in a group? 1043 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 3: I think a one on one for me is always 1044 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 3: more effective because I think when the group starts yelling, 1045 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 3: like case in point, when Alexa starts making it about herself, 1046 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 3: you get off track and everybody starts yelling and it 1047 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 3: becomes loud. I prefer one on one after something like 1048 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 3: that because you get off topic. 1049 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1050 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 3: I really wanted to say, hey, Teddy, you know what, 1051 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 3: can I please talk to you because I have something 1052 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 3: I'd like to say to you, not in front of 1053 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 3: everybody else for everybody else's. 1054 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 2: Opinion, right, But if you already have started the conversation 1055 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 2: at a table with the group. Then you're it's already 1056 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 2: out there. 1057 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 3: But it got hijacked. Yeah, it got hijacked. We got 1058 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 3: off topic. It became about everybody else's feelings and about 1059 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 3: you know, Alexis and everybody else. When Emily was really 1060 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 3: trying to talk to Heather about what made her feel uncomfortable. 1061 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: Now, who didn't really see much this episode? 1062 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 3: Gina, Yeah, isn't that what you wanted? 1063 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1064 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 3: So of producing this show, Well, you're always producing everything, Teddy, 1065 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 3: I don't. Probably one of the best producers. She's like, 1066 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 3: look at her, she knows anyway, you yeah, you're a producer. 1067 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 2: I think that this episode was good, but I'm gonna 1068 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 2: have to tell all of our listeners what Salt Lake 1069 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 2: City is going to be better. I just watched it. 1070 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 3: Really, I've never watched that show. Is it good? 1071 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 2: It is so good. I'm loving Orange County what they're doing. 1072 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 2: But then you see a full blown shit show, and 1073 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 2: then it makes me I have to be honest with 1074 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 2: the Erica makes me worry a little bit about Beverly Hills. 1075 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know, look, I can only blow up once 1076 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 3: every ten years. I can't, you know, burn down my 1077 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 3: life more than once. I mean, there's enough there. There 1078 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 3: are multiple people on a show for a reason, Teddy. 1079 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 3: Maybe they can get to work. 1080 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 2: Oh is that going to be one of Is that 1081 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 2: what we're working with here. 1082 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 3: It's an ensemble show for a reason. Everybody you know, 1083 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 3: has to bring their life forward. There's nothing more I 1084 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 3: can give here. 1085 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, thank you guys for tuning in to another 1086 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 2: episode of to Teas and a Pod with myself and Erica. 1087 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, guys, Thank you for having me 1088 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 3: Teddy of course,