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Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is a straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 3: Straight fire.

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Speaker 2: For Monday, September the eighth. If you live in Orchard Park,

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Speaker 2: New York, or you're a Buffalo Bills fan boy, you

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Speaker 2: are waking up like you won the Super Bowl today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen Week one in the NFL. Not totally done,

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Speaker 2: Vikings Bears tonight on Monday Night Football, but oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: what a capper to just an absurd Sunday that was

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Speaker 2: bonkers capped with. I mean, one of the great comebacks

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Speaker 2: that I can remember in Week one. Listen the NFL

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Speaker 2: primetime games in Week one delivered. So Thursday you had

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Speaker 2: Cowboys Eagles. Before the first play the game, you've got

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Speaker 2: a guys getting ejected for spinning. Dallas has a chants

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Speaker 2: in the final two minutes fails. Then Friday night in

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Speaker 2: they're gonna win. And then Justin Herbert big scrabble for

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Speaker 2: fifteen yards on the final drive down to the wire,

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Speaker 2: down fifteen with four minutes left at home, fourth and two,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen touchdown to Keyon Coleman, Derrick Henry fumble, Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, what's happening? And they missed the two pointed

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Speaker 2: version of course, Ravens three and out. Where's the Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson magic? And then Buffalo goes down because Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: is a stone cold killer, and the Buffalo Bills win

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Speaker 2: it on a chip shot field goal on a Sunday

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Speaker 2: where kickers kept missing, especially guys like mister Coup in Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: in the in the circle millions that went three and two.

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Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns kicker Holy Hell missed an extra point,

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Speaker 2: missed a field goal, forty nine Ers kickers Jake Moody

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Speaker 2: forty game. Rob G and I were doing math before

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Speaker 2: we started recording the podcast. Okay, so Derrick Henry was

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Speaker 2: unfriggin believable. One hundred and sixty nine yards on the ground,

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Speaker 2: just owns the Bills. Lamar Jackson had a really really

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Speaker 2: good game through the air, two hundred nine yards, two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: picks up nineteen. So those two guys combined for four

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Speaker 2: of offense. Folks, I don't know what we're doing in

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Speaker 2: the NFL right now. Like Patrick Mahomes generational talent, he

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Speaker 2: I don't see how you're watching that and saying, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh. Josh Allen is freaking unbelievable. The throws he makes,

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Speaker 2: the scrambles, he makes it look easy. The one thing

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Speaker 2: It continues to be a disaster for him. He tried

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Speaker 2: he hurt? But Josh Allen heroic. Bill's pull out to win.

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Speaker 2: And that's a huge, huge win for Buffalo because their schedule, remember,

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Speaker 2: is not difficult. That gives them the inside track for

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Speaker 2: in l Folks, the NFL. Listen, I was all prepared

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Speaker 2: to come on here talk about my Jets. You know,

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Speaker 2: Sunday during NFL season, I'm ordering food. I don't want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that lightly, I would say, that's crazy shit.

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Speaker 4: then you know, we'll sneak in the Ravens there either

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Speaker 4: at the beginning at the end with the clever editing,

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Speaker 4: you know software, we'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: And I was unavailable for whatever reason, and we weren't

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Speaker 4: We had an incident classic on Sunday Night Football, and look, man,

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Speaker 4: we're running out of adjectives to describe Josh Allen. We've

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Speaker 4: talked about that now for years since we're doing this podcast,

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Speaker 4: and we were talking before we started recording, and one

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Speaker 4: thing we were saying was, even after this game, are

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Speaker 4: you sure that Buffalo is the better team? And I

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Speaker 4: think we both agreed, Like, no, I still think Baltimore

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Speaker 3: Run through them.

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Speaker 2: not staying up for this. These are mind boggling stats.

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Speaker 2: they cannot hang with these guys. They just can't. Like

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Speaker 2: it was one of those crazier games out rob. Here

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Speaker 2: The Jets are plucky, but they lost. Then they played Miami.

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Speaker 2: In Week one, they got their asses kicked by the Colts.

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Speaker 2: want some money on Arizona. Spencer Ratler, ain't at Saints

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Speaker 4: But like you're spot on, I don't want anyone say

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Speaker 4: Week seven bye. Okay, it's Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, Houston, Rams.

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Speaker 3: It's a long.

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Speaker 4: Season, right, this one game could ultimately be what leads

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Speaker 2: I'm still kind of shook as we record this after

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Speaker 2: I mean listen. We're not going to cover every single game,

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Speaker 2: then the Lions come out and Rob, I don't know

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Speaker 2: I did not see anything from Detroit. This was an

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Speaker 2: And again Green Bay. You know, I think he's super

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Speaker 2: guys caught passes from Jordan Love. They got a lot

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Speaker 2: I'm higher on the Packers, and I don't know rob

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Speaker 2: Detroit by the way, next week against the Bears, now

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Speaker 2: looking at an ozer win three start.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's now I'm not going to go out

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Speaker 4: and say right away that I definitely have the Packers,

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Speaker 4: And I mean, the Packers look good, man, and even

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Speaker 2: Let's go where we're gonna go now, brock Purty, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we just spent a couple of moments here on Party.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, he remains one of the most polarizing

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Speaker 2: I don't know, can I say athletes instead of just

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Speaker 2: Rock Party. He throws a pick, and my boy who

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Speaker 2: I played football with, who was a quarterback at Notre Dame,

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Speaker 2: text me, Jay, you gotta chill with the brock purty

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Speaker 2: stuff like after the interception, and Cowherd light me up. Oh,

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Speaker 2: deep breath here. Opinions are fine, They're great. I'm just

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Speaker 2: and he has two bad interceptions, undeniable. There's nothing you

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to say it was a Josh

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Speaker 2: I'd never heard his name in my life. He had

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Speaker 2: So everybody says party was awful? Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 2: Perty got lucky for the game. Seattle had two hundred

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Speaker 2: Seattle at home, two hundred thirty yards, Rock Party on

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Speaker 2: the perception Rob is oh Man. Those interceptions are Party.

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Speaker 2: The numbers say he was by a mile better than

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Speaker 2: Sam Darden. It's not his fault Rock Party that the

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Speaker 2: He's like, nope, not talking about that. It was very

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Speaker 2: how about this stat from NFL. Purdy was pressured on

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Speaker 2: fifty fifty seven percent of his dropbacks. Rob the most

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Speaker 2: He's gonna catch heat. I know people are gonna light

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Speaker 2: I'm team Brock Purdy and to get this win man Rob.

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Speaker 2: I felt so happy for Purdy. I've never met Purdy,

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Speaker 4: It sounds like he's like your He lives like three

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm a Brock Purtty guy too.

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Speaker 4: And I think gritty is the right word because I

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Speaker 4: that to a guy who's way too already, But he

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Speaker 4: did what he had to do to win. And you

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Speaker 4: look at the raw numbers, and again they're not eye popping.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned, you know, basically like two hundred and ninety

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Speaker 4: yards or so total.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, touchdowns, two picks.

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Speaker 4: But then and then, and I know this is gonna

432
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Speaker 4: sound weird because we just saw that that barn Burner

433
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Speaker 4: there in Buffalo with josh Ana Lamar Jackson. But then

434
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Speaker 4: you go across the league you look at some of

435
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Speaker 4: the other guys like Matthew Stafford went for two forty

436
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Speaker 4: five and his team scored fourteen points.

437
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Speaker 3: Like CJ.

438
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Speaker 4: Stroud goes for like two fifteen total and his team

439
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: scores nine points. Bo Nicks has a couple of turnovers

440
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Speaker 4: against a terrible team. It's like, maybe it was just

441
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Speaker 4: an average day for most NFL quarterbacks on Sunday. The

442
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Speaker 4: difference was that Brock perty down two of his top

443
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Speaker 4: what three receiving options and four or three if you

444
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Speaker 4: count Branton and Ayuk, and he just found ways to win.

445
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Speaker 4: He found ways to get it on a day when

446
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Speaker 4: his special team was terrible, when his best player is

447
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 4: nicked up and he's only getting two yards to carry. Anyways,

448
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 4: he just made a little bit of play here, a

449
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 4: little play there, a key third down conversion here. You

450
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Speaker 4: mentioned that throw there at the end.

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Speaker 3: It was a Yollo ball. We'll say that.

452
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Speaker 4: I don't know if he really meant to throw at

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Speaker 4: the way that he wanted to, but it was a

454
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Speaker 4: great catch. But again, all that matters is you win,

455
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Speaker 4: my guy. Joe Burrow looked terrible against the Cleveland.

456
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Speaker 2: Browns, and he does every year.

457
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they won, so nobody's going to care and

458
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Speaker 4: the difference, And honestly, I think Joe Burrow probably looked

459
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Speaker 4: worse than Brock Purty. You know, he's say for the interceptions,

460
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Speaker 4: but he's not gonna get the same kind of heat. They're

461
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Speaker 4: gonna say, Oh, Joe Burrow finally got a Week one

462
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Speaker 4: to win, big start there for the Bengals. But Brock Purdy,

463
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Speaker 4: because the perception is that he's mister irrelevant, he's the

464
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Speaker 4: seventh round pick, he's never worked the contract. Everyone's always

465
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Speaker 4: looking to poke holes in him, and I thought he did,

466
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Speaker 4: you know, just enough to win as very like you said,

467
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Speaker 4: a gritty performance.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to ride with him. It's funny. I

469
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Speaker 2: did just look at Seattle. Oh my gosh, it's crazy.

470
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Speaker 2: So they did not have a carry longer than nine yards,

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Speaker 2: and only one player had a double digit reception and

472
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Speaker 2: that was Jackson's spent the jigba. Everything else was within

473
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Speaker 2: ten yards. Basically, it is an ultra vanilla offense. They

474
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Speaker 2: don't want Donald to make mistakes, and then he ends

475
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Speaker 2: up making a mistake at the end. I mean there's

476
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Speaker 2: a rebuiltners defense. I think four new starters unbelievable. You

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Speaker 2: mentioned Bo Nick, So I'm just gonna touch on this.

478
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Speaker 2: Depending on the number you got Broncos did or didn't cover,

479
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Speaker 2: it was seven seven and a half eight eight and

480
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Speaker 2: a half. They win by eight. Bo Nicks was terrible.

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Speaker 2: There's no way around it. He was awful, throwing off

482
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Speaker 2: his back foot, across his body, terrible decisions. He had

483
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Speaker 2: two interceptions and a fumble, and on fourth down he

484
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Speaker 2: tried like a tush pust and he tried the Josh Allen,

485
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bounce off I'm not gonna go up the middle.

486
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the left. And then he like

487
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Speaker 2: trips and wipes out, doesn't get it like he was awful.

488
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Speaker 2: Nearly cost the Broncos. By the way, that was the

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Speaker 2: team we had and the Survivor the one hundred thousand

490
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Speaker 2: dollars buy in Survivor. I there was some sweats on

491
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Speaker 2: this in the fourth because they couldn't really put away

492
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Speaker 2: cam Ward. I didn't think cam Ward was bad, but

493
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Speaker 2: they did sacond six times rookie on the road. But

494
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Speaker 2: the bigger, bigger story, bo Nixt look look terrible. He

495
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Speaker 2: did not look good or all the Broncos. And I

496
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Speaker 2: was texting my buddy this. They looked like a team

497
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: that read their clippings all off season. Rob Oh shit,

498
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: we good we are. We got top defense in the league.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nix is the man and Sean Payton had some

500
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Speaker 2: very questionable decisions, whether it was going for, whether it

501
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Speaker 2: was a bomb on fourth down late in the game

502
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Speaker 2: instead of a Poots punt or a field Well, I

503
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Speaker 2: don't I don't know what Peyton was doing. Some really

504
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: weird decisions. Now did you watch any of that?

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Speaker 3: That was the one I had on the smallest screen.

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Speaker 4: Once I started watching it, and I was kind of

507
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: locked in there for a minute, but it was just

508
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 4: it was bad football. It was bad football, so it

509
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: was very easy to be like, hey, I'll put that

510
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Speaker 4: one on the phone, like six feet away, so it's on.

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Speaker 3: I'm not really watching it.

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Speaker 4: And I was very upset at the end, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 4: because I got an eight and a half so for

514
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Speaker 4: them and only win by eight really pissed me off.

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Speaker 2: Uh, do you want to talk about your Raiders because

516
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Speaker 2: I didn't watch a ton of that, but I do

517
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Speaker 2: know Gino Smith, I think had the most passing yards

518
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Speaker 2: until Josh Challenger thrown him. Gino Smith went off three

519
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two. All I heard was the wide

520
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Speaker 2: receiving Corse is nothing. Amari Cooper retired and then Brock

521
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Speaker 2: Powers gets hurt and it doesn't really matter because somebody

522
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Speaker 2: named Dante Thornton was okay, Michael Mayer came in, the

523
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Speaker 2: young kid Jack Beach had a nice catch like Jacobe

524
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Speaker 2: Myers gets it done. Nice road win for the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of those games that any of the

526
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Speaker 4: last five years they lose going away, like because they

527
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Speaker 4: started off great, march right down the field touchdown, and

528
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Speaker 4: then they kind of just got stuck in the mud.

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Speaker 3: The weather was part of it. Part of it was

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Speaker 3: they couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Run the ball at all, and historically, you know, under

532
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Speaker 4: previous regimes, that's the game that they just give up

533
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Speaker 4: by the middle of the third quarter, and you know

534
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Speaker 4: it was a close game, is suddenly a two score game,

535
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Speaker 4: and then you know, that's all she wrote. But it's

536
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Speaker 4: something you'll appreciate this as a Jets fan. Having a

537
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Speaker 4: competent quarterback completely changes your perspective on things. Having a

538
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Speaker 4: coach that you know maybe is not the best coach

539
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Speaker 4: or in his prime or whatever, but you know that

540
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Speaker 4: he's not going to do anything really stupid or his

541
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Speaker 4: team's not going to be making dumb mistakes over and over. Like, hey,

542
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Speaker 4: if we lose, we're gonna lose, but it's gonna be

543
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Speaker 4: a close game. It's gonna be a competitive game. It

544
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Speaker 4: is what it is. So just having a guy like

545
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Speaker 4: Geno Smith, and he's somewhere between I don't know, the

546
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Speaker 4: twelfth and eighteenth quarterback in football, but on a game

547
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Speaker 4: to game, week to week basis, he might be a

548
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Speaker 4: top five or six quarterback like you saw it, like

549
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 4: you're a little bit on on Sunday, like that makes

550
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Speaker 4: a huge difference because having a guy like Gino Smith,

551
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Speaker 4: when you can't run the ball at all, you're averaging

552
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: basically two yards of carry, and he comes down throws

553
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: for three sixty two with no threat of a ground game.

554
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: He was getting beaten, battered, He got sacked four times,

555
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 4: and he still found ways to win, including that clutch

556
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Speaker 4: throw that at the very end, third and ten, they're

557
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Speaker 4: gonna run the clock out, he throws a deep fly

558
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 4: route to Thornton Junior to to ice the game.

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Speaker 3: Basically like that. That's awesome.

560
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Speaker 4: And I know it's not gonna be last long season,

561
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Speaker 4: but let me just say to have the first place

562
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Speaker 4: Raiders does have a great ring to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that it was an impressive win for Gino.

564
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Speaker 2: I did. I didn't think Drake made looked particularly good.

565
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Speaker 2: But you say first place. They now host the Chargers

566
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Speaker 2: this Monday Night football. It says nine fifteen. I don't

567
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Speaker 2: even know what day that is.

568
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Speaker 4: That is that that uh it is? It is Monday

569
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Speaker 4: night football and it's a it's a double header.

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00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, she okay, that's at home, so.

571
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Speaker 3: It might as well be a win two and O Raiders.

572
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Speaker 3: I can feel it.

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Speaker 2: Two and oh that they faced May, Herbert and Daniels

574
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Speaker 2: in the first three weeks. Okay, before we get to

575
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Speaker 2: Monday night football, best bet, let me just riff on

576
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: my Jets. I listen. I'm not one of these guys

577
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Speaker 2: who's like, oh.

578
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: I jinxed it.

579
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Speaker 2: But when the Jets were rolling, I texted, you know,

580
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: my usual suspect Jets friends. I was like, guys, I

581
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: gotta be honest. They look freaking awesome. They're fun, they're scoring,

582
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: they're they're creative. I mean, Aaron Glenn on the sideline

583
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: is flexing after like three plays into the game when

584
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: they're sacking Rod, like, this is a fun team. Justin feels.

585
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Speaker 3: Listen.

586
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: He was good. There's no way around there. I saw

587
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: Rob with the Mia copa online. Reese Hall had so

588
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: much juice. Oh my gosh, the cuts, the speed, the power.

589
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Brice Hall was outstanding. Garrett Wilson excellent until

590
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: the final play of the game where he got jacked.

591
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: The pass rush as predicted was good, got to Rogers,

592
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: but they lose on a sixty yard field goal with

593
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Speaker 2: well like two minutes left. One minute left a sixty yarder.

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00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, what do you want me to do?

595
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: Like it's a sixty yard field goal with one oh

596
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Speaker 2: three left from Boswell. I don't I don't know what

597
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: to say. You lose on a sixty yard field goal

598
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: like that, that's a devastating loss. Afterward, Tomlin called his

599
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: kicker a serial killer. He's got a low post rate,

600
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: he can't wait to deliver. At some point, Rob's going

601
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: to do an interview and call me a serial killer. Yes,

602
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: because like, damn, Jay, you're doing what is this year

603
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Speaker 2: five of the podcast? Five days a week? Yeah, I

604
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: mean we're not doing weekends. But that's I'm just conservatively,

605
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: let's say it's one hundred and two hund that's like

606
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: a thousand podcasts. That's insane that like people who do

607
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Speaker 2: a thousand podcasts stretch it out over like ten years.

608
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: There's no rush. I am kind of a serial killer

609
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: in that way. And I just can't stop watching this

610
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: Jets offense and thinking, I'm so happy we're competent. Like

611
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: I know, we lost on the sixty yard bomb, but

612
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: the Jets rushed for one hundred and eighty two yards

613
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Speaker 2: against the vaunted Steelers defense. They pushed them around in

614
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Speaker 2: the trenches all game long. Fun stat on Sauce Gardner,

615
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: so he was matched up with Metcalf. He was on

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Speaker 2: him for thirty of Metcalf's thirty three routes. Thirty routes

617
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: against Sauce. Metcalf had one catch for eleven yards. But

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Speaker 2: Jay Metcalf had a good game. Yeah, the three times

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Speaker 2: three times a thirty three routes. Sauce was not on him.

620
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Speaker 2: Metcalf three catches seventy two yards. Like, I mean, Sauce

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Speaker 2: Gardener is really good. There's a major drop off. They

622
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Speaker 2: lost DJ Reid obviously, I think he's with the Lions.

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Speaker 2: But I will give Aaron Rogers props. He was good.

624
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: I thought Arthur Smith called an amazing game. Early on,

625
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: you could see the pressure was getting to Rogers, and

626
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: so instantly Smith scraps the game plan and starts going

627
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: with a lot of play action bootleg Rogers couldn't really run,

628
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: but the guys were open and a lot of dump

629
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: offs to compensate for the pressure, and it started to work.

630
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Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers are gonna be very good.

631
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: I was a little surprised that Kenneth Gainwell was like

632
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: the bell of the ball in the backfield. Jalen Warren

633
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: did nothing. I'm just telling you the Jets were the

634
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: better team. They basically led and then the Steelers score touchdown,

635
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: the Jets fumble the kickoff. Steeler scored like the next play,

636
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: and that was they got screwed on that. I think

637
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: the Jets either missed an extra Oh, they missed a

638
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: two point conversion. That's why they land on thirty two.

639
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: There was a penalty early in the game when they scored,

640
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: and so they got it from like the one yard

641
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: line and they tried to run it in and it failed.

642
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: That was dumb. But I do like the aggression, like, hey,

643
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: we're not just gonna do what Jason wants to do

644
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: and kicked the extra point to vote that seven. We're

645
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: going to be aggressive, and they were aggressive, and I

646
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: gotta say it was fun watching the Jets for the

647
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: first time in a long time. Rub Yeah.

648
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: One.

649
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 4: I was watching that game while I was cruising the

650
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: outlet mall. Now had it on the phone. I'm walking

651
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: with the out what. Yes, you know I can't shop

652
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: at at that sax fifth like you can.

653
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: Oh, you got to you got to hit the OUTLA

654
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: Malls on Saturday's Dog, not Sunday.

655
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Speaker 4: I mean when I was there when they first opened,

656
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: like you know, ten am. Yeah, in and out, Bro.

657
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: But no, like to your point the hour New York

658
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: Jet Hour anymore, because the week one is started, they're

659
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: no longer.

660
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: They're no longer our Jets, but your Jets.

661
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: They were easily the better team, you know they they

662
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: outgained the Steelers by one hundred and twenty plus yards. Yeah,

663
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: they were fifty percent on third down, They had the

664
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Speaker 4: time of possession by nine minutes. The difference was you

665
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: mentioned it a fumble on a kick return, And that

666
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 4: was the reason why I was surprised at Aaron Glenn

667
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 4: actually called him out, like directly where he's like, hey,

668
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff can't happen, and basically said, if

669
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: anything similar happens again, this guy might be out of

670
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: a job. Is Avery Gibson. But Justin Fields looked like

671
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: a above average NFL quarterback And I never thought I

672
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: would say that, like the knockout. Just the Field has

673
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: always been Yeah, he's a great athlete, but he can't throw.

674
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: And he goes sixteen for twenty two to two eighteen

675
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 4: a touchdown and no picks he runs into. I'm surprised

676
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 4: by the two rushing touchdowns, but like.

677
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: He looked really good.

678
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 4: That offense looked like it was in the twenty first

679
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: century for one. Yeah, like it hadn't looked like that

680
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: in years. And so I'm sure the defense with Aaron

681
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: Glenn back there, the controls will eventually settle down, and

682
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: you know they're not gonna be giving up thirty plus

683
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 4: points every week to whoever they play. But even at

684
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: the end, when when they had a chance to go

685
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: and get that field goal, it took too all pro

686
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: level plays by Jalen Ramsey to preserve that win, like

687
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: one with the pass breakup and the second one with

688
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: the Gary Wilson hit which was unbelievable. But they, as

689
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: you are a Jets fan, Jets fans like j Mac

690
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: should be feeling very optimistic about their team moving forward.

691
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. Before I get to Monday

692
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: night football, best bets real quick, Rob Chargers Chiefs. I mean,

693
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: I did prattle on all off season about how I

694
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: don't think this Chiefs Chiefs team has it, and they

695
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: were awful in the first half. Obviously we knew they'd

696
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: come back because it's freaking Mahomes. They come back, but

697
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: the defense just couldn't stop justin Herbert. I mean Herbert

698
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: on the on the go ahead drive or the deciding

699
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: drive to win the game. Well, I believe it was

700
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 2: eight for eight, like he was just carving him up.

701
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: The defense is not good. And then you see Chris

702
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: Jones forgetting to contain on the game deciding play where

703
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: Herbert ran for fifteen around the side and his team

704
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: mate the white guy, Shoot, I'm spacing on his name, Uh, TRENTQ,

705
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: will I forget till Yeah? He he's getting in Chris

706
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: Jones's face and they're drawing like blame game finger pointing,

707
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh shit, Week one, Huh what's that

708
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: flight like? Back to Kansas City? I did not think

709
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: anybody look good. They lose Worthy to the separated shoulder.

710
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means for his future. I

711
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: think I saw he's gonna try to play through it

712
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: with a brace like good luck, bro. The Chiefs go

713
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: home and host Jalen Hurts in the Eagles. Uh Sunday,

714
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's a four to twenty five game on Fox.

715
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: So there's a world where the Chiefs are staring zero

716
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: and two in the face. Now. They will beat the

717
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: Giants in week three, but after that they host the

718
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: Ravens and they couldn't stop Herbert. I am very curious

719
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: to see what happens against the Eagles and Ravens one

720
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: in three start in their future. I don't know we'll

721
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: see any quick thoughts on the Chiefs.

722
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: Rub Yeah, I mean they don't look like I mean,

723
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 4: I didn't go as far as you were. You said

724
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: that they were gonna miss the Blast, but I didn't

725
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 4: have them winning the division. I felt pretty comfortable with

726
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 4: that one. Like, I just don't think that you can

727
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: just assume that, oh, yeah, they'll be fine, Like did

728
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 4: you see the way they won last year? Like everyone

729
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: points to fifteen and two, but you're like, you had

730
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: every single like bad juju type play that could happen

731
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 4: work in your favor throughout the season, and now this

732
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 4: year starts off where it kind of goes against you.

733
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: Like Xavier Worthy getting a dissocated shoulder because he ran

734
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 4: into Travis Kelsey is something you might see in Pop

735
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 4: Warner like doesn't happen at the NFL level, right, And

736
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: so I'm I think they'll win ten, maybe eleven games,

737
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 4: but I don't see them being anything close to the

738
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: Super Bowl contender. I came away wholly impressed though with

739
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: the Chargers. That was the best game I've seen Justin

740
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: Herbert play ever. He looked awesome. I mean, he's always

741
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: had the prototype and he's always been the guy, even

742
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 4: more so than Josh Allen Lamar. Where's like, if you're

743
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: gonna design a quarterback in a lap, he looks like

744
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert. He throws like just and Herberty accurate. He

745
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: is big, as strong as fast. But it's one thing

746
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 4: to do that kind of stuff in the first three

747
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: quarters and it looks great. The numbers look great, but

748
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 4: you don't necessarily have like that clutch gene. He made

749
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: every big play down the stretch and he looked awesome.

750
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 4: And that team I think is going to be a

751
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 4: real problem.

752
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: In the afc OH show, all right, that is it

753
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Speaker 2: All right on the Monday night football vikings at the

762
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Speaker 2: Bears vikings one point favorites on the road. If you're

763
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: looking at propaction, this is interesting. JJ McCarthy is lined

764
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: at two hundred and twenty passing yards over under Caleb Williams.

765
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: Is it to eighteen?

766
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: Really?

767
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: That was mildly surprising. Do you guys really think Kevin

768
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: O'Connell's gonna have JJ McCarthy come out in his first

769
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: start at night Island game on the road and just

770
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: be slinging it all over the field. I don't see

771
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: that now. I'm not doing the under because I do

772
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: want to see McCarthy. We haven't seen enough of him.

773
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a world where it's a heavy Aaron

774
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: Jones Jordan Mason game on the ground for the Vikings

775
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: and then dump offs with the occasional splash attempt to

776
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. But I just that felt high, at least

777
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: to me for JJ McCarthy. I will say the one

778
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: prop I'm looking at, you know, first touchdowns kind of fun.

779
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: Colston Lovelin has shown well. I do think plus nine

780
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: hundred he could be worth a flyer Bears. I don't

781
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: know that they'll be able to run it in against

782
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: his Flora's defense. I'm telling you, man, Flora's defense is

783
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: going to come to play. They are a feisty bunch,

784
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: shall we say, And I think they could be coming

785
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: after him. So who does the quarterback love when he's

786
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: under heavy duress. You're gonna have time to go downfield,

787
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: the tight ends, the dump off. So Colton Loveland a

788
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: guy I would be looking at the young kid out

789
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: of Michigan. I don't have anything on the side yet.

790
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I would take the Vikings. But

791
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: in the primetime games, remember last week, the Cowboys were

792
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: significant underdogs. They showed well covered. Chargers were underdogs one outright.

793
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: That was the neutral site game. Cowboys were on the road,

794
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: Vikings on the road here, I mean, Ben, the problem is,

795
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: this is Ben Johnson's debut. I don't know what to expect.

796
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: I did not think they look particularly sharp in the preseason.

797
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: And you know there was a story that came out

798
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: this I think it was Friday from Tyler Dunn, who

799
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: were gonna have on the pod. I believe Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

800
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: one of the days this week he did this deep dive,

801
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: extensive stuff on Caleb Williams and is not positive. A

802
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: lot of behind the scenes stuff from last season just

803
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: pretty ugly and it had Bears fans in a tizzy

804
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: if you will. I don't know that you can get

805
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: in a tizzy in twenty twenty five or anybody says that,

806
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: but it's the best word I could come up with

807
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: on the fly, and it just gives the whiff of

808
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: this is a big year for Caleb Williams, Like the

809
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: kind where it's like, hey, we believe in Ben Johnson

810
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: and if he can't fix Caleb in a year, we're

811
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: gonna have to look for a new quarterback. That was

812
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: the vibe I got reading the story. But again, we'll

813
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: have Tyler done on this week, So I'll go Vikings

814
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: twenty three Bears twenty in what should be a pretty

815
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: good game actually, and that would put it right about

816
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: on the total, would it not? Total of forty four? Yeah,

817
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: so slight lean to the under. Just two young quarterbacks,

818
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: you know, in prime time. I don't see fireworks in

819
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: this one, but hell, I didn't see fireworks in Jet Steelers.

820
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: It was the lowest total on the board and it

821
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: was a barn burner, as we discussed. Anyway, that's it

822
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: for today. We are back tomorrow. I just have to say, folks,

823
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: it was a damn good Sunday gambling. Listen. You own

824
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: your wins, you own your losses, but all the good

825
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: bets seem to hit Ravens minus one. The under in

826
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Texans Rams was kind of a no sweat winner. I did,

827
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: let's see just quickly buzzing through the Broncos depending on

828
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: the number you got, hit Packers, which was one of

829
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: my favorites. The Falcons was the one that really hurt

830
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: Giants kind of stung a little bit, but the Browns

831
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: made up for it. I did have the Dolphins in one,

832
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: but then I noticed it was like, oh my gosh,

833
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: they're not even trying, and I live bet this is

834
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 2: I don't recommend this, but I'm looking at it now.

835
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: Live bet Colts minus twenty and a half after like

836
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: two or third in or a third turnover, and I

837
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, let me just get the Colts

838
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: in that. That hit so so interesting stuff in one,

839
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: three and two in the contest, all the survivors are alive.

840
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a good time to be betting on sports,

841
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you tomorrow