WEBVTT - S2 Episode 5: No Excuses

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted is a production of tree Ford Media, Clutch Sports Group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio Cold Drew trying to get some

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<v Speaker 1>working any baby walking in the weight room right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going on time doing alright, So I welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Drafted. I'm keeping Michael Key and you're hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Holland and Uncle Drew, two critical people supporting Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Edwards rise from unknown South Atlanta talent to potential number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick in the NBA. Hey, I'm are you ready,

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<v Speaker 1>bab nah lifeealthing issue. They're only six days away from

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Draft and the reality of the moment is

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<v Speaker 1>starting to sink in, especially given how far Anthony has.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about it all the time, like, man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker boy. I always knew it when you were yawn,

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't think you're gonna focus like I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a superstar and you was gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Anthony talking while he lives waits at the gym

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<v Speaker 1>on god Be Road, his home base for the last

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<v Speaker 1>five years in a tough Atlanta neighborhood. You don't understands,

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't you always had? He was like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>always knew you was gonna be good at sport, but

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<v Speaker 1>supert and you got on the stand. Should listen, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the stands out. You will yawn. You used to

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<v Speaker 1>be good, bro, and you will. Boys sitting in episode one,

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<v Speaker 1>we told you about the near impossible odds of any

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<v Speaker 1>kid becoming an NBA lottery pick and how much more

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<v Speaker 1>likely it was for Anthony to become a dark statistic instead.

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<v Speaker 1>But Uncle Drew had an even more specific reason for

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<v Speaker 1>why he didn't think Anthony would make it here to

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<v Speaker 1>the cusp of NBA stardom. So get what if you

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<v Speaker 1>stop bullshit? No, I need to cut you out. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>When you stop bullshit and you buy in, Shaw, you

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<v Speaker 1>can be here. You're still coming out of bullshit. Get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball here we go. What that you guys say?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bullshit like you like once you buy in like

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<v Speaker 1>man the man it would buy. You don't own the problem?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you bout in? Their argument is about Anthony not

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<v Speaker 1>practicing hard enough as a kid, and how he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>buy into the work it takes to become great, and

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<v Speaker 1>that he only tried his hardest during games. Uncle Drew

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<v Speaker 1>was his youth football coach back then, so he had

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<v Speaker 1>the clearest look at Anthony's shortcomings in sports. Why they're

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<v Speaker 1>making me right? Man got the practed late. I got

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<v Speaker 1>school and man got a prcted late. I got through

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<v Speaker 1>all the running and then run down here. I said

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<v Speaker 1>that the man too small. Phone don't good that point

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<v Speaker 1>you make me mad? Right, that shouldn't make me mad?

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<v Speaker 1>Wrong like man don't get it rough? He was could

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<v Speaker 1>be mad though. I don't know no better you did.

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<v Speaker 1>You did know better. You knew what you would. You

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<v Speaker 1>knew better, bro, you knew better because you know what

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<v Speaker 1>stop I was act like he was. See the mentality head.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony avoided the most grueling parts of practice, the intense

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<v Speaker 1>hitting drills or the extra hill runs or anything that

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<v Speaker 1>would push his limits. So, in my opinion, I called

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<v Speaker 1>a knoa head yeah ahead the skills, just the discipline

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<v Speaker 1>pot or for the work ethic when we was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>You know one thing, If you got a kid that's

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<v Speaker 1>a knockahead in a good way, and you put that

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<v Speaker 1>discipline in them, you can create a master in a

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<v Speaker 1>positive way. So how did Anthony go from lacking the

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<v Speaker 1>discipline and the work ethic he needed to become this

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<v Speaker 1>laser focused nineteen year old prodigy. Here's uncle Drew and

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony still in the weight room. To be honest, basketball stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I was get what of course I was

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<v Speaker 1>banging on the football when I came to the third game.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all play somethingbody, I'm like a lot. They ain't really

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<v Speaker 1>work with him. But once I say you played basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you gotta shot. I course I think you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>dead good. Yeah, what do you think I'll give the superstar?

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell me, bro. Why does Anthony insist on

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that other people doubted him? Does he use it

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<v Speaker 1>as motivation to gain an edge or is he also

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<v Speaker 1>stunted that he used to find the odds and it's

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<v Speaker 1>now being talked about as the number one pick in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. I'm telling, why the hell you think I

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<v Speaker 1>was so close to y'all? You didn't had a discipline,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't had to work, anth you're looking at on

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the hill. Way, No, your mom can't say,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know c common you know seven rey hare,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, manlazy man. They rolled the ball. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play and they want to pray what I'm talking? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to let him how to hear somebody feel

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<v Speaker 1>a you start level red the matt. Let's tell what

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do. Run run, you gotta gonna get it. No, no, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>no no no no, no, no no no, don't run

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<v Speaker 1>for real, act like you want to run. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>come pushing around and feel like a little baby. And

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<v Speaker 1>ship get what looking at it? Looking up the hell

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<v Speaker 1>and ship wanted mama can't say you know what here

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<v Speaker 1>we're going? And that he would dodge these extra drills

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<v Speaker 1>and then try to convince his mommy vet to get

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<v Speaker 1>him out of practice. I hate it. Let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate free to think called free games so much rain.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I used to get the practice round six fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>six on purpose. So I know they've done like no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, get dressed super get dressed super slow.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm so good now made me do that, SI,

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<v Speaker 1>So look we get down practice. We gotta run a

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<v Speaker 1>lot again. I got down. I run a regular ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But once when they started doing at ship, I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, right doing that? I get what to do?

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking on let's look at looking doing My time

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<v Speaker 1>is star eight teen, my MoMA, I'm like, you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Well? What and a your team. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing talking to him? You do stand right

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<v Speaker 1>on here with j like, oh, I don't know. Counting

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<v Speaker 1>my mom to save him didn't always work out his

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<v Speaker 1>planet though, my mom, she's pushing everybody. This is Anthony's

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<v Speaker 1>older brother Anthony three years is elder and better known

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<v Speaker 1>as Bubba to those closest. One time, I think Aunt

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<v Speaker 1>was having a bad day in football game. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a football game. He was kind of playing a little sluggish,

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<v Speaker 1>and like halftime, she pulled him over and talked to

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<v Speaker 1>him like my mom was very aggressive. I can say that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you didn't want to play around with my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom didn't want to play around with us.

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<v Speaker 1>So even to just hear her voice, it's like motivating

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<v Speaker 1>to any one of us, any one of my siblings.

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<v Speaker 1>If you hear her voice, you're gonna want to do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you're doing ten times harder. So she was a

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<v Speaker 1>support and the motive that we actually I used to

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<v Speaker 1>drive ourselves to do what we want to do. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as force see anything in life, she was out

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<v Speaker 1>rock for real man, So yeah, that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>main force for me. Uncle Drew again, Miss Mama. She

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<v Speaker 1>babied him as far as that's my son. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to a pet in the sports, she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play that. It wasn't no baby that, it was none

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<v Speaker 1>of that. We we had the green light too. If

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<v Speaker 1>we want to run a the time, we're gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>aft the time. She wasn't solve at all. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>miss no games. She did she had to do to

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<v Speaker 1>get him, give him a pregnant. She was allowed as

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<v Speaker 1>once you know, everybody knew was mother wall. She had

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<v Speaker 1>the jerkor's on some type of pair that everybody know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's my baby, there was my boy. If

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<v Speaker 1>anybody on the sideline started talking trade, she's gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>trash back. She was a diehard. She had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of son. Uncle Drew and Anthony's mom both knew he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be pushed, and since Anthony's mother and grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>primarily raised the kids on their own, it often fell

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<v Speaker 1>on Uncle Drew to get on his star running backs case.

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<v Speaker 1>Here they are in the weight room, still debate what

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<v Speaker 1>happened back then you knew, you knew what you were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean they need practice though, so much better. They

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<v Speaker 1>just blow on and then how you come by that practice?

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<v Speaker 1>Great bullshit? How you On some level, Anthony was also right.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't need to practice at that age. He was

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<v Speaker 1>that much better than everyone else. Who y'all depended on

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<v Speaker 1>in the game beside we had a good team. Who

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<v Speaker 1>y'all depending on days and the hole? Yea looks like

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<v Speaker 1>you to come out of that bullshit? Who y'all depending

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<v Speaker 1>on during game time? If it rain ain't working, tone

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<v Speaker 1>ain't working? Who y'all giving the ball? To remember that

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<v Speaker 1>game you played in the snow? What comes? Time to do?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm rare where airplane? What I do to the

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<v Speaker 1>house to the house, to the house, to the house,

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<v Speaker 1>to the house, to get that ForSight game? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get you by a time you remember the Reliving

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<v Speaker 1>those touchdowns proves his point. What kind of kid scores

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<v Speaker 1>eight touchdowns in a game without practicing hard? The differences.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Drew wasn't worried about Anthony's success as a nine

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<v Speaker 1>year old football player. He wanted to instill the discipline

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<v Speaker 1>and work ethic for when Aunt got older and other

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<v Speaker 1>kids physical abilities caught up, especially before it became too late.

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<v Speaker 1>So you done got understanding. But their starts down you

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<v Speaker 1>bought in. I don't buy an hold. You bought in

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<v Speaker 1>being good. You bought in and got I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get better. I want this is what I want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You bought into it and I wanted to be best.

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<v Speaker 1>But you want work a line in him? No, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, before I start picking up. Maybe take hard,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll maybe take great, maybe take greater down right, working

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<v Speaker 1>on the focus and work ethic emerged in ninth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>when Anthony's entire life changed forever. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's justin Holland again. I was a recreation coordinator, so

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<v Speaker 1>I worked at the rec center and and pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>a low income neighborhood. The rec center he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it is the gym at god to Be Road in

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<v Speaker 1>South Atlanta, the one that's played such an important role

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<v Speaker 1>in Anthony's story. I have a passion for just kids

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<v Speaker 1>and in the youth, especially the kids that grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in our communities, and they really need guided, structure and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody just to be there for him, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just for some advice, even if it's just even it's hell,

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<v Speaker 1>if even if it's just a hood. You know, kids

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<v Speaker 1>need those types of people around them. When I met him,

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<v Speaker 1>um he had just lost his mom and his grandma

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<v Speaker 1>within six months of each other. Anthony's grandmother, Shirley, was

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<v Speaker 1>someone he described as their family backbone. He once said

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<v Speaker 1>she would help pay the bills, keep the lights on

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<v Speaker 1>where they didn't have the money, that she would always

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<v Speaker 1>come through in their time of need. Grandma Shirley had

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<v Speaker 1>been battling cancer for years when her daughter, Anthony's mom, Yvette,

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<v Speaker 1>lost her own fight with the disease only a few

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<v Speaker 1>months later, surely passed two shortly after that. Justin first

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<v Speaker 1>met Anthony, that was even a part of the introduction

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<v Speaker 1>of my buddy, Heir who brought him to me. He

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<v Speaker 1>was just kind of like this kid, like he just

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<v Speaker 1>needs somebody good in his life. And I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>a good person. I know you have him on the

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<v Speaker 1>basketball court, and like I said, he's special, just not

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<v Speaker 1>on the court. And I think I tell him this

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<v Speaker 1>all the time as well, because I think if I

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<v Speaker 1>was dealt the same cards that he was dealt, I

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt in my mind, I wouldn't be in a

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<v Speaker 1>position that he's in right now, like I would be

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<v Speaker 1>a statistic because it's so easy to be a statistic

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<v Speaker 1>and losing you know, losing losing his mom and grandma

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<v Speaker 1>so young, and and his brothers and sister being so

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<v Speaker 1>young and just kind of being left to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's something that that's really hard, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of wanted to present myself as stability. If

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<v Speaker 1>you need anything for me, I'm always here for you,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what it is. And like I said, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll always be your stability with whether you need it

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<v Speaker 1>or not, and being that like that mentor and just

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<v Speaker 1>being available to give insight and information to throughout life,

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<v Speaker 1>just for life, because you know, life is just so

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<v Speaker 1>much more than basketball, because one thing I understand, like

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball eventually stops bouncing, and it's who you become

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<v Speaker 1>after that. Justin entered Anthony's life at a critical moment

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<v Speaker 1>when he was just an eighth grade kid fourteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>facing the loss of the two most important people in

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<v Speaker 1>his life, both to cancer, both within six months. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony's older brother, Anthony, about the relationship with his mom

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<v Speaker 1>and grandmother. My grandmother, she's she's very caring, so she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like the yellow line. So she was more up

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<v Speaker 1>the calm motivator. That's what I would call her. Become motivated,

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<v Speaker 1>laid back motivating like like she would she would like

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<v Speaker 1>give you a speech or something like, put you to

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<v Speaker 1>the side and talk to you. Very loving person though.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was his mom basically, and my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was like best friends. We all best friends with my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was always a person that picked us stuff

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<v Speaker 1>when we needed a shoulder, lean on the shoulder, the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd on anything like that. She basically supported us throughout

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<v Speaker 1>anything we wanted to do or we believe that we

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<v Speaker 1>could do so. And those were two queens right there.

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<v Speaker 1>His mom and grandmother pushed and pulled and carried the

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<v Speaker 1>entire family through life. The impact of their loss goes

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<v Speaker 1>beyond saying goodbye to the two people Anthony loved most.

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<v Speaker 1>His whole life was upended since they were also his caretakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly Anthony and his simple things were on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's justin again. They've always kind of been a close

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<v Speaker 1>knit family and they're still to this day. They're still

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<v Speaker 1>really close. But like I said, at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>I met him and his mom and grandma passed, they

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<v Speaker 1>were they all were young, like they were. I think

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<v Speaker 1>his older brother Antoine may have been with his older brother,

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<v Speaker 1>his older brother was one, so so they all were

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<v Speaker 1>so young. So I think just as a community, as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, I think everybody kind of came together and

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<v Speaker 1>just helped everybody out and kept everybody focusing and definitely

0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:35.840
<v Speaker 1>kept and kept them even closer. Anthony internalized everything he

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking or feeling. He could only watch as his

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<v Speaker 1>former reality collapsed around him. Here again, his uncle Drew.

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<v Speaker 1>He never not one time, not one time at all,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they had the funeral, we were sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the church and stuff all now, I was sitting to

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<v Speaker 1>my scene. He came walking in with his siblings. He

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<v Speaker 1>helped them together. He didn't, he didn't, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't break down. If he were, you know, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do what you gotta do. Everybody deal with different but

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<v Speaker 1>he held it together even that day when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen fourteen years old. You know, I always to ask

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<v Speaker 1>myself like that they came the past of the mother.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of sat back and out like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>asked myself, who's really gonna step up right now? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna do what they gotta do for their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite having his own family and kids to raise, Uncle

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<v Speaker 1>Drew felt an obligation to get involved. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>his mother had some more respect from him, just knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that I was deaf for the best centers of him.

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<v Speaker 1>She would text me sometimes she would send me a

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<v Speaker 1>long test man's just saying, you know, thank you coach

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth for doing this. Blod they didn blod to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that right there, just that was all the validation

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to step up, do what I had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna make it happen. You need you need

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<v Speaker 1>this in your pocket, you need shoot, you need a TV.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nothing. It was just like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I could have got through. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a treat like you want to mind, I had to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I could do it. You fucking

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<v Speaker 1>get your sheep. I'm coming to get your clothes. You

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<v Speaker 1>come and stay with me. He didn't, He didn't push

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<v Speaker 1>back at all. You know he needed that. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give his face because I know how to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna be his face. I ain't gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't even to play that role like I'm your daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a person to respect you, to respect me.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it's just tough love. And then I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>what I gotta do. I told your mom'nna do what

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do, point blank. Anthony split time between his

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<v Speaker 1>siblings and uncle Drew, sometimes staying for long stretches at

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<v Speaker 1>his old coach's house. I think, down inside, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like it was my dude to do what

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do to beat the phone, because you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have somebody. You gotta have somebody else. They don't

0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.360
<v Speaker 1>want them for you. Just Janine Low, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see the kid be great. I won't see

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<v Speaker 1>him make it like I said it won those secret.

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<v Speaker 1>I treat him just like one of my own. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to get on his ass, I had to beat

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<v Speaker 1>up phone if I had to do what I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do out there, so I would feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>was just I was just acent the whole, and he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of knew that too. That relationship and their dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>is still the same in many ways even now, because

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<v Speaker 1>they continue lifting in the weight room and get into

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<v Speaker 1>another heated back and forth. I think he wants you

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<v Speaker 1>to be like I'll bringing my own water. Drew has

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<v Speaker 1>just called out Anthony, or getting in his ass as

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<v Speaker 1>he calls it. They're arguing over water. Specifically that Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to drink it. But that isn't what it's

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<v Speaker 1>really about at all, the way married couples fight about

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<v Speaker 1>dinner when they actually are upset about something else entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, and man, I'll mail listen to are you

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<v Speaker 1>this is said you got some water? I said not,

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<v Speaker 1>you got get away and water. Just give me the

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<v Speaker 1>I think he wants to be sooth the initiative to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you a whole water? What I don't get away?

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<v Speaker 1>People say you got one? No, if you ask a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you just give it to him? I'm never got

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<v Speaker 1>water got the water? Like I got a protein drink?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to ask some or you got a

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<v Speaker 1>water water? Let's but I haven't had an action. He

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<v Speaker 1>just give it to you? Are you ask so you don't?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get abou You see what I'm saying. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>drew back the water. You just give me the water

0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and Drew you have protein? Drew know you just give

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<v Speaker 1>me pronching to drink. He goes for water I got

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<v Speaker 1>like if I bring if if I bring you a dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>dollar about you you're gonna say you better dollar? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I don't know any but you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get to get with exactly. And I got whatever

0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.359
<v Speaker 1>you need me exactly. Come on the only time on

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<v Speaker 1>bro so always about lookout, look out, look out. Hey listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>He helped you know, You're not like I told you before,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in this big only bigger wather. He don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know you. Don't ad me, but it is a outside

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<v Speaker 1>of him. Don't ad nothing, no no opinion on go

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<v Speaker 1>what's that body with the employ It ain't talking the

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<v Speaker 1>important and this is what they're really fighting about. Drew

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like Anthony isn't relying on him enough, not asking

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<v Speaker 1>for help with the most important issues, especially as Anthony's

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<v Speaker 1>whole life is about to change. Absolutely, I'm talking about

0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>civil life, growing up, being a manas didn't that mean nothing? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What what? What? What? What I came here said about

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<v Speaker 1>my paper is sent to the po box giving yours

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I ain't tell what I'm about. You don't listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta keep out everybody I'm telling I said, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I said, I said from now I went

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<v Speaker 1>up to myself. Now, everything that I do, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get it, said to my po bay, I'm sort. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's coming, We'll be right back. What's coming

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<v Speaker 1>in ten days is somewhere between six and eight million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year, along with fame an immense pressure because

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.680
<v Speaker 1>in ten days, Anthony will become a top pick in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. He'll be moving to his new city and

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<v Speaker 1>starting his new professional life with his new team. His

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<v Speaker 1>entire reality will be turned upside down once again, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>this time for the better. But Uncle Drew still sees

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<v Speaker 1>a teenage kid who needs his help, who doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to avoid the pitfalls that likely await him. He

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<v Speaker 1>still needs those same people that were there for him

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 1>before he got his circle. Now he put it together.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who they all for the love, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know who they all for the for the fame and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. So I'm just gonna continue to bust to day.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna change with me because I won't run

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<v Speaker 1>from the boy for him to be successful. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it was my duty to do all

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do to to beat their phone. Just

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<v Speaker 1>makes you links to see no matter what he did

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in life basketball, even if you want to go, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to the military. If you want to just

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<v Speaker 1>be a regular person working nine of five. I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I had to beat the phone. I just

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<v Speaker 1>tell the MoMA, no matter what, I'm gonna make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you get you know what I mean. I make a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do what I gotta do them or to get

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<v Speaker 1>him now. And like I said, he never knew this.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Drew made a vow twe that that he would

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<v Speaker 1>be there, that he'd help Anthony the young football start

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<v Speaker 1>with his pads or rides to practice or with a

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<v Speaker 1>place to sleep over, and a promise that years later

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<v Speaker 1>he'd still be in the weight room trying to warn

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony the teenage basketball start about the dangers of money

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and fame lurking around the corner. Of course he knew

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<v Speaker 1>it now, but that's why it went so hard. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, in the pain that he went through, he

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<v Speaker 1>never broke He never, you know, he never he never

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<v Speaker 1>made an excuse. Never. Man, I lost my mama, I

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 1>lost my grandmama. Why me? Why this is why? This? Never? Never? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he just locked in. Once they passed, he took that

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<v Speaker 1>that discipline and just put he put their they head

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<v Speaker 1>into it. And you see what you put everything you

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<v Speaker 1>head into it. Anthonis work, ethic and determination changed after

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that life defining loss. He found the discipline because, like

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Drew, he made a promise he was no longer

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<v Speaker 1>just playing a game or just playing for Anthony, coming

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<v Speaker 1>from somebody who's you know, lots of parents, especially your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just things you have to focus on outside of

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, yourself, another Anthony's coaches and a trusted friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Allen. You're gonna be hurt, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>know that those people that they looked out for you

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to see you do great. So the

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<v Speaker 1>main thing for you is continuing that legacy. So each

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<v Speaker 1>and every day when I do something or I help,

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<v Speaker 1>I helped somebody, or or I'm doing something, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of my mom because I know how she was. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a giver and help her. So I think Aunt

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<v Speaker 1>knows that as well. That his grandmother and his mama

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<v Speaker 1>and his mother, you know, they were people that liked

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<v Speaker 1>to help other people and they always wanted him to

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 1>keep going. And so you just had to focus on

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.719
<v Speaker 1>something bigger than yourself. It became something much bigger than

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.159
<v Speaker 1>only Anthony Edwards. That tragic passing of his mother and

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 1>grandmother also changed the lives of those around him. Justin Holland. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>no one everything that he that he's you know, been

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>through and goes through, he always had a smile on

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<v Speaker 1>his face, like regardless of what was going on. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I've ever really seen him like upset or

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<v Speaker 1>angry and not with a smile on his face. And

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that's dealt with, you know, the level of trauma

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 1>to that kid has gone through book, and I always

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<v Speaker 1>found a reason to smile and find and find the

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>brightness in any situation. You know, anything I'm going through,

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<v Speaker 1>I go. I ever go through his minor and I

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.440
<v Speaker 1>always keep that with me. And I feel like he

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:51.639
<v Speaker 1>channeled a lot of his frustrations into the game of basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know a lot of his passion and will

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<v Speaker 1>definitely comes from you know, his mom and grandma, No

0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>doubt about him. He definitely plays for them, but he

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>gives it all. And that maybe a reason why I

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>learned a lot from him to that's uncle Drew, just

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing how he dealt with it too. I kind of

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>learned a lot from him. If he can maintain, if

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>he can hold it, he can keep a composure and

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>continue to live his life and duty gotta do. Nobody

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>really should make no excuses either, you know. So that's

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>why I always when he needed me to do something,

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he needed me to, you know, come through the form.

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I never made no excuses. I don't I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what I had going on. I could have been out

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<v Speaker 1>of town. I could have been out kicking it in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets if he called me, if you had to

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<v Speaker 1>text me out with dead form. So I just always

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I had to be the asan whole phone

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what, because, like I said, he never made

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<v Speaker 1>no excuse. He never wanted about to feel sorry for me,

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<v Speaker 1>never would come and crown about his shoulder and say

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<v Speaker 1>why me, why me? Why? He never he was just

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<v Speaker 1>different like that. He just he just never he never

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<v Speaker 1>used there for an excuse. He was there for motivation,

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<v Speaker 1>you know So I really really really respect him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>He just I could have made, you know, lose my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom, and my grandma at the age of four,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm telling that I think it just it just

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<v Speaker 1>puts him to another level, really just push into another

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<v Speaker 1>loan and just put them to another love After they

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<v Speaker 1>never really talked about what happened, not to Uncle Drew

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<v Speaker 1>or with Justin or any of those closest to him,

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<v Speaker 1>not even to his siblings. After the funerals, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the only things he said was, I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 1>them proud. I feel like any person, any human being,

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<v Speaker 1>has been through what I've been through at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of fourteen, fourteen fifteen, If if you can get through

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<v Speaker 1>that and just you know, cope with yourself, shouldn't nobody

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<v Speaker 1>or anything be able to, you know, make you mad.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't nothing change my smile. You can't do nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to me to make my smile go away. My MoMA

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<v Speaker 1>and grandma they're always happy. So I made sure I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always happy. Yeah, I ain't never seen that when they

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't happy, Like even when they was here, they was

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<v Speaker 1>always happy. So I just made sure I'm always got

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<v Speaker 1>a smile on my face. To represent him as a

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<v Speaker 1>devastated kid, he kept all the hurt and pain inside,

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<v Speaker 1>using it as a few will to excel on the court.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he makes the choice to carry with him all

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<v Speaker 1>the happiness his mother and grandmother have inspired. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can take my basketball career way, oh everything, fame, everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't take my happiness away. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's the only thing they left me here with

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<v Speaker 1>you next Undrafted, you guys have anything specifically looking for

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<v Speaker 1>I can tricker inventory level if you are nah, not

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<v Speaker 1>not checked, Yeah, trying to complete an outfit. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the attention to detail for to reason is exceptional. But

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I step on the court with these

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are in the NBA or in whatever position

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<v Speaker 1>they are, I feel perfectly fine. I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>is where I belong. Let's talk about some things that

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<v Speaker 1>people don't talk about. Let's talk about the manipulation, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually are attempting to take their job. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is time to think, sue l a start the new

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<v Speaker 1>journey man. This kid, it is a superstar person. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you got that, times is work at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and the skill set times is man. It's dangerous. Brom

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