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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime.

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Speaker 2: It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm good?

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Speaker 1: How about you?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 1: Listen? You know what's late?

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Speaker 3: No, I got a question for you. Don't jump on

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Speaker 3: my horse.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna try and mess you up.

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Speaker 3: Do you know it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: I do, I do. I have a mashup for you. Look,

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Speaker 1: I just come right out of the gate.

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Speaker 3: Oh you didn't surprise me. There's that I'm standing, just

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Speaker 3: came up, slapped me right in the face with like

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Speaker 3: a fish.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'll give you one part of it, Taco Bell.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm done.

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Speaker 2: And then what would be your nightmare mashup? Taco Bell

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Speaker 2: and some sex toys? Oh heavens, Oh my goodness, pro gets.

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Speaker 1: It Taco Bell and give me another.

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Speaker 3: Okay, radio shack, give me closer, not dew.

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Speaker 2: No, I'll tell you they already have it. They go

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Speaker 2: hand in hand with the bay Ham Lease all right, listen.

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Speaker 2: In Vidia so and Vidia is partnering with Taco Bell.

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Speaker 2: Actually young brands their parents company to streamline the drive

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Speaker 2: through experience.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to AI, they drive through experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to dose AI.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna help with like I'm not really actually

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Speaker 1: Reading through this.

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Speaker 2: It's going to do something in terms of suggesting specific

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Speaker 2: menu items to customers to take a short time to prepare.

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Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you came here for this item.

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Speaker 3: Something else?

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Speaker 1: What about this? They just a slop that we put

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Speaker 1: in a bucket already.

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Speaker 2: All exactly so other like McDonald's tried this, it failed

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Speaker 2: because apparently, my.

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Speaker 1: Favorite part about this is like McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: They partnered with IBM and they killed the project in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four because quote, the technology was taking drive

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Speaker 2: through orders. The change came after numerous customers on social

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Speaker 2: media bemoaned wildly incorrect additions to orders, from nine Sweet

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Speaker 2: Teas to pats of butter. So it's like it becomes sentient,

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Speaker 2: and it becomes a teenager messing with you. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: it's not like, oh, the teenager who always puts like

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Speaker 2: an extra nugget in there.

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Speaker 1: That's not good. It's not good AI, it's Ai AI.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, everyone's all jazzed about this partnership.

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Speaker 1: So next time when you go, I guess it's not

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Speaker 1: just Taco Bell, KFC and Pizza Hut under the Young

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Speaker 3: Thank goodness. None of those are brands I go to.

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Speaker 2: I know, but next time you're there, next time you're

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Speaker 3: Drive through at the airport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see what AI does for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you that. That is ridiculous. You sit back down.

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Speaker 3: I got a question for you. Have you ever been like,

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Speaker 3: heading home, you drive to the wrong house.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Georgia's wrong house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like like you know, like maybe a different house

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Speaker 2: I'd oftentimes go to turn into the driveway before mine

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Speaker 1: I'm very special.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've done that kind of automatic driving where

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Speaker 3: but I'm always surprised when my friends do it. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, going to the old place where like it Sometimes

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've done that one either. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm special.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be fun. Now, imagine if you drove

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Speaker 3: wrong place, right, Yeah, but you're not. You're not wrong.

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Speaker 3: Your house should be there and it's not. It's gone.

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Speaker 3: Oh like, was your home stolen?

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Speaker 1: It's like empty lot.

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Speaker 3: What do you do when when someone makes your whole

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Speaker 1: Sarah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's what's happened to this Irish dude, Elizabeth that I'd

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Speaker 1: I would like you for you to tell me about it.

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Speaker 3: You're ready for what I'm calling the case of the

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Speaker 3: Missing Irish Home.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm ready for that.

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Speaker 3: This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 3: heist and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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Speaker 3: and one hundred percent ridiculous nutragious. I Elizabeth Sar, I'd

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Speaker 3: like to introduce you to my man Neville Presshow hello, Now.

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Speaker 3: My man Neville was a civil engineer, a documentary filmmaker,

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Speaker 3: a married man, father of young children, also a homeowner

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Speaker 3: in Ireland. We'll get into that in a second now.

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Speaker 3: As a documentary filmmaker, my man Neville had co written,

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Speaker 3: directed produced multiple documentaries, internationally acclaimed, award winning. One of

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Speaker 3: them was rather prescient for his own life. It was

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Speaker 3: his nineteen eighty one documentary called Desecration. Ok. It was

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Speaker 3: about this amateur archaeologist on an Irish island. The amateur

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Speaker 3: archaeologist is focused on preserving this crumbling medieval castle, right,

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Speaker 3: he just throws his lot in. He's like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 3: But some locals on the island have a different idea.

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Speaker 3: They're like, nah, no, no, no, no, we got something else.

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Speaker 3: We want to dig under the crumbling castle because it's

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Speaker 3: what they wanted to dig Elizabeth a mine. They're like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's some pressure medals underneath the castle. So guess who

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Speaker 3: won the miners? If you said amateur archaeologist, you win

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Speaker 3: the no prize. He lost so one day his own

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Speaker 3: life would mirror this life of this amateur archaeologist. He

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Speaker 3: made a documentary about so, like, what's the deal, what

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was July nineteen ninety four. A fairy was

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Speaker 1: Like a boat, ferry, not like a sprite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, not like a brownie a sprite, like a

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Speaker 3: the there he is. He's scanning the island of Tory.

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Speaker 3: And this is a tiny island. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: And if you're wondering where it is, it's off the

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Speaker 3: and Londonderry or Dairry Erry Jerry. I know there's two names,

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Speaker 3: about eight years, and he left in eighty six because

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Speaker 3: there's a big exodus of Irish laborers, about twenty eight

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Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety four. He's excited to return home. So

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Speaker 3: checking the cliffs. But it's not there, Elizabeth. Instead, there's

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. His home's gone, like the

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Speaker 3: world's worst magic trick. So what happened? Where was my

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Speaker 3: man Neville's home? The question is, Elizabeth, how did this happen?

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Speaker 3: Not what or why? But how? And to answer that

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Speaker 3: does this happen? It's fun So to answer that, I

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Speaker 3: need to tell you about Tory Island. You ever heard

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Speaker 3: of it? No, I had not, I never, I didn't

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Speaker 3: even know it was part of Ireland. But Tory Island,

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Speaker 3: formed by the British Conservative Party The Tories no, spelled

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Speaker 3: differently t o r y. They're like the t r E.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's plural. Never mind. Yeah, so Elizabeth, it's

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Speaker 1: Said, it's not part of Northern Ireland.

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Speaker 3: No, it's part part of Ireland. Yeah, okay, part of

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Speaker 3: the Republic. And it's located just off the County Donegal

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Speaker 3: and a gay Electori means a place of steep rocky heights.

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Speaker 3: Right. So the island, as I said, sits in the

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Speaker 3: And like there's that ferry that I mentioned that serves

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Speaker 3: So in the winter. The locals if they want to

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Speaker 3: this like four seedar helicopter to like ferry them back,

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Speaker 3: which means, you know, if I live there, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: leave Tory Island between November and April cause there's no

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Speaker 3: way you're getting me on that middle chopper.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you play the game of I can see

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Speaker 2: my house from there on those ferry rides. I play

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Speaker 2: the game of like eye on the horizon, you will

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Speaker 2: not vomit Eye on the horizon, you will.

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Speaker 3: That's right. You get season, get emotion sickness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, any motion sickness.

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Speaker 4: That's me.

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Speaker 3: That's fun right, so fun yea. And I used to

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Speaker 3: make like a friend of mine like get carsick when

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Speaker 3: I would read in the car because he could just

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Speaker 3: imagine that and then he would get carsick. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: as I sold you Tory Island lightly populated. Now, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 3: you want to guess how many people live in.

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Speaker 2: Tory lightly populated. I can't imagine it's very large.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm going to put it at two

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Speaker 1: fifty pretty good guests.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, the Census reported there were one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty one people living in Tory now. Best

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Speaker 3: is one hundred and seventy, so they've picked up a few.

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Speaker 3: So one hundred and seventy weary souls live in four towns.

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Speaker 3: There's East Town, Westtown, Middletown, and New Town.

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Speaker 1: Oh love, yeah, so those four times.

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Speaker 4: It is right.

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Speaker 3: They got the one hundred and seventy people. But for

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So this phraises a question on such a remote

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Speaker 3: It was a great question, Elizabeth. There's also no trees

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Speaker 1: It's like the hebrides.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't like stack the wood. Yeah. So back to Neville, Persia. Right.

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Speaker 3: the island locals, he's helping them build their electrical power grid.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you want to help out your own people anyway.

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Speaker 3: But life is good is my point, right, enjoying it.

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Speaker 3: Then in nineteen ninety he moves to Queenstown, New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: So this fateful trip, when he discovered that his family

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Speaker 3: this with me mccoon. Right, I'm wondering. You know, there's

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Speaker 3: some Gaelic story of like this, in these sleeping hills

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Speaker 3: so how could one hundred and fifty year old stonehouse

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Speaker 1: I don't know?

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Speaker 3: All right, Well I'm going to tell you. Please do first,

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Speaker 3: ask you, that's me. I'll tell you where Neville's house went.

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Speaker 3: It's a hell of a mystery.

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Speaker 1: Where we're back, Elizabeth, Yes we are.

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Speaker 3: So we still got this missing Irish home.

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Speaker 1: Yere.

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to set up the mystery for you

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Speaker 3: the how could the such a big housees go? Right?

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Speaker 1: The six bedrooms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not small, and it's heavy, thick walls. I

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Speaker 3: mean like it's been there forever. Everyone knows it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and everyone knows him. What's the deal? So according to

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Speaker 3: There were so many details, so many particulars, right, it

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: If he was born on the island.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't. I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: So do you understand this?

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Speaker 3: He moved there?

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Speaker 2: He Do you even have any concept of the deep

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Speaker 3: Oh you're about to get way more curious. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: where to begin? All right? The court papers? Okay, we

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Speaker 3: know that Neville left Tory Island, went to New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: and then while he was gone, in nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 1: Well, you know they got what new Town left town right.

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Speaker 3: Into the naming game the hotel. The man's name is

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Speaker 3: Patrick Deuhan, right, and he was known on the island

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Speaker 3: because this island does have a king, okay, right, but

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: I need to get the fairies on this way. I

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Speaker 3: So you gotta love a community that names the king

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Speaker 3: island is Patrick Deuhan, Right, he wields the real scepter. Now,

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Speaker 3: this place is kind of like a Western, like as

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Speaker 3: I was reading it, like, imagine like if a Western

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like, For instance, when our hero returns to town, he

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Speaker 3: what they did. I don't know if money was exchanged,

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Speaker 3: The construction workers moved into Nevill's home while that hotel

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Speaker 3: was built. That's always fun. Strangers staying in your home

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I don't like people house sitting for me. I don't

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Speaker 3: But you don't even know they're no, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then you got like, and the thing is, this

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Speaker 1: But I don't have any cameras in my.

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Speaker 3: Not anymore, not anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well, and so anyway, I don't I don't. I don't

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Speaker 2: So it's not like he could even keep an eye

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Speaker 3: And it's not like no one's calling to tell him

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and everyone's just in your stuff, yeah, or

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Speaker 3: It's like, give your furniture and stuff. Maybe they left

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Speaker 3: some stuff. It's their home. They didn't take everything.

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Speaker 1: They don't like that star So as.

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Speaker 3: That's sounded cube, Yeah, the hotel's built right next door

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Speaker 3: Right winter of nineteen ninety two rolls around. The hotel's

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Speaker 3: just whip across the island, just a wet ferocity Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: In fact, a whole sheet of asbestos blew off of

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Speaker 3: Neville's house, like his roof, His roof has a sheet

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Speaker 3: it's everything right. So they pull out the heavy in

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Speaker 1: You know that it's a staple of their diet.

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Speaker 3: Is So they threw up the replacement sheet, except for

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Speaker 1: Right, Maybe that's the good lord saying don't use asbestos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or don't use this poor man's home.

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Speaker 1: Because this is like ninety two.

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Speaker 3: We knew this is what we were pulling it out,

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Speaker 1: Else in the world they're pulling in, they're putting it in.

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Speaker 1: They're just getting the scribb.

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Speaker 3: If you're not using that, we'll take it, send it

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Speaker 3: over to Tory Island care of Patrick Duhan. So this home

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Speaker 3: So they go and they check into the local hostele.

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Speaker 3: Apparently there's a hostel just this is the new hotel.

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Speaker 3: There's a hostile. So the half built hotel, right, isn't

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Speaker 3: that or tense. Right. So meantime, the contractor removes the

439
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,919
Speaker 3: fuses from Nevill's house. I don't know why he did this.

440
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,719
Speaker 3: I guess they're like, yeah, we're checking out, so they

441
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 3: took the fuses for it totally. But when you know it, Elizabeth,

442
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 3: that same day there was a fire in Neville's unoccupied home.

443
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: The fire burned and burned and destroyed much of the house.

444
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 1: That doesn't feel like a coincidence, right, I.

445
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,719
Speaker 3: Just thought that was interesting, like, oh, we check out

446
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 3: and then suddenly there's a fire. So if you were

447
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 3: wondering like I was wondering, mister Patrick Duhan was not

448
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: on the island. He just happened to get lucky that

449
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 3: this place burned down next to his hotel and nothing

450
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 3: happened to his hotel, So just got lucky. The next day,

451
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 3: the contractor for his hotel, John McGuinty, phones the Guardy

452
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 3: the Irish police and reports the fire. He does his

453
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 3: due diligence. He tells the cops that his heavy equipment,

454
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 3: some of it was burned a bunch of the crew's

455
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 3: fuel was involved in the fire.

456
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 2: So like the fire department wasn't called. They just let

457
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 2: it burn through and the like we should tell someone.

458
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 3: We'll call the cops and tell them, like they should

459
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 3: come out.

460
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: And yes, last night big fire.

461
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 3: Like yeah, all of our fuel got burned.

462
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: As wild it was nutsky.

463
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 3: And also this one hundred and fifty year old stone

464
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 3: walled home, it also burnshouse.

465
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: It is don't worry about that part.

466
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 3: Just after a storm. But you know what, no roof.

467
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 3: But somehow anyway, the local authorities they come out to

468
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 3: see this wrecked home and they determined that the fire

469
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 3: was an accident, not malicious, and then they contacted Neville

470
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: to let him know. So April twenty ninth, they took

471
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 3: their time. Nineteen ninety four, Neville receives not a phone call,

472
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,719
Speaker 3: a letter in New Zealand. It's from the Donegal County Council.

473
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 3: The letter informs him, and I quote theater mister Preshow,

474
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 3: it has been brought to our attention that a building

475
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: owned by you Ontre Island isn't dan condition. There is

476
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 3: a new hotel being built adjacent to this building and

477
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: the owners are concerned that said building would be a

478
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: danger to the public as well as being unsightly see

479
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 3: attached photograph. Under the Derelic Sites Act of nineteen ninety,

480
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: Donegal County Council are required to take whatever action is

481
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 3: necessary to render this building safe. Storm damage has also

482
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 3: taken its toll with this building, and considerable damage has

483
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 3: been caused. I would be grateful if you could let

484
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: us know what intentions are regarding this property before we

485
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: proceed to enter the same on the Register of derelic Sites.

486
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 3: Your sincerely, four County Secretary.

487
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: That's how you find that.

488
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 3: That's how he finds out. Nobody calls him. He just

489
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: gets this. Your house is up site. It's an eye

490
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: sores you could get rid of. Like, what do you

491
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 3: do you want us to clear? Will clear it?

492
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: You have four days?

493
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So imagine just receiving that letter, Like you're you're

494
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: halfway around the world. It's nineteen nineties, so you have

495
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: to like now fly and jump. You can't just like

496
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: get on the internet and go to show me the house.

497
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

498
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 3: Right, So no phone calls. I said, storm ravaged the locals.

499
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, yeah, we're trying to clear this before

500
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: someone gets sick, it's a health hazard or whatever.

501
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: They all got me sothelioma now exactly.

502
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: And also he's got to be wondering if all this

503
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 3: stuff is strewn about like he's got there in the house.

504
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's Yeah, And they don't mention a fire. No,

505
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: they're just like the kind of messed up totally.

506
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 3: And then also there's the tone, like the fact that

507
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: you know your home is now littering our islands. To

508
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 3: deal with us. So July fifth, nineteen ninety four, Neville

509
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: returns home to Ireland to see what's left of his house.

510
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 3: But before he came home, he did the responsible thing.

511
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: He wrote a letter back to the Donegal County Council

512
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 3: telling them that he'd make arrangements to come back and

513
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 3: see what's what. And when he did make the trip,

514
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: he didn't go alone. Neville and his wife both flew

515
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 3: back and they took the faerry to Tory and they

516
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 3: were together when the fairy pulled into the Middletown Harbor.

517
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 3: But rather than tell you about it, Elizabeth, yeah, I'd

518
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 3: like you to close your eyes. Isaac would like you

519
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: to picture it, Elizabeth, Zah, do you feel that the

520
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: sea spray wetting your cheeks as cool salty water miss

521
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 3: against your face. So at the moment you are on

522
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: the ferry from dare Headed Totori Island. You stand beside

523
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: your husband, the documentary filmmaker, and the whole preshow. The

524
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 3: two of you have taken the ultra long trek from

525
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: New Zealand Ireland. It's been a tangle of missed connections

526
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 3: at airport, things you care to forget, and then of

527
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: course island hopping from your UK to Ireland. And now

528
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: finally you're almost at your house. You're on the ferry,

529
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: just minutes from home. You can see the cliffs of

530
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: the island. As the ferry draws closer, you approach the

531
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: harbor mouth, you can see Middletown. The fairy blows its

532
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 3: foghorn to let the dock workers know it's close. Your

533
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: husband gives your arm a squeeze. It's been such long trip.

534
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: You both cannot wait to be home. Your eyes search

535
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: the cliff. You keep looking, you scan the distance. You

536
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: should see it by now, it should be there, but

537
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: it is. You check the harbor mouth, you get your bearings.

538
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: You know well the side of your house as it

539
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: sits there serenely on the cliff, gazing out at the sea.

540
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: The stone walled home, with its meter thick walls, is

541
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: one of the oldest homes on the island. It's to

542
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: kind of a hundred and fifty year old home that

543
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 3: people say has personality. As you search the heights of

544
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 3: the island for sight of your home, a flood of

545
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: memories rushed through your mind. You recall the stormy seas

546
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: as you spied them from the homes lead glass windows.

547
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: You recall the sight of the fishing fleets putting out

548
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: to sea. You can practically hear the sound of the old,

549
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: creaky wood floors of the home under your feet. You

550
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 3: can imagine the smell of the spring on the breeze

551
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 3: as it blows lightly and sweetly in through an open window.

552
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: It's your beloved home and it's not there. How could

553
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: that be? You hear yourself say out loud to your husband, Neville.

554
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't answer, because he's also trying to make sense

555
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: of the fact your home is gone. The fairy pulls

556
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: ever closer to the island, the one that's no longer home,

557
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 3: to your house. The foghorn blows low and slow again.

558
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: Elizabeth instead of their one hundred and fifty year old home.

559
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: What did they see? They saw the new hotel. Yeah,

560
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: that's what was there, hotel.

561
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: And it's got to be disorienting because they're not used

562
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: to seeing that as part of the word.

563
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: No, they don't even know it. So it's our house

564
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: bigger right. When they arrived on the island, the couple

565
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: had planned to stay in their own home. That's not

566
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 3: an option now obviously, so they thought they still had

567
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 3: a home to stay in because of the pictures of

568
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: the Donegal County Council sent them. They're like, oh, there's

569
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: some fire damage, right, but you know whatever, we can

570
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 3: get in there. But now there's just Patrick Duhan's new hotel.

571
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: There's nothing. Well, technically there is something because their home

572
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: is now the septic tank for the hotel. What Patrick

573
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: Duhan dug a big hole and put a septic tank.

574
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: So there's that, and then there's some pipes sticking out

575
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: of the ground where the house used to be. And

576
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: then there's a tub flipped over sitting right there.

577
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: No.

578
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so well this is how he described it. Neville's

579
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: memory of this moment, he told the BBC quote, all

580
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: I saw was six inches of plastic piping sticking out

581
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: of the ground, which would have been my water supply.

582
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: There were large boulders surrounding my sit about eight feet

583
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: by two feet in size. Around the perimeter. My bath

584
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: was lying on the beach upside down. So that's what

585
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: he sees right now. Neville and his wife, they stay

586
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: with the neighbor who you know, was supposed to be

587
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: in charge of their house. Let's talk to this, and

588
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: they tried to make sense of what happened. They're like, hey,

589
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 3: what happened to the house? Right? So the neighbor's like, oh,

590
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: I'm tired, I'll tell you about it tomorrow. Dodge the

591
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: question so that on his own, Neville goes over to

592
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: the hotel, the new hotel. He stands around the front porch,

593
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: and while he's standing there, staring out from the hotels,

594
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: looking at where his home should be, all he sees

595
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: is the sea and he's like, huh. He pulls out

596
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: a camera snaps a photo from the front porch. Right

597
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 3: then he has that photo developed. Afterwards, he added a

598
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: silhouette over the picture of where his house would have been,

599
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: and he immediately saw the problem. His house blocked the

600
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: hotel's view of the ocean. So Neville went and confronted

601
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: the hotel's owner, the richest and most powerful man on

602
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: the island, Patrick Duhan, And Nevill asked him, what happened

603
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: to my home? Man? And did the storm it blew

604
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: off the roof? Yes? Right? But how did the start? Right?

605
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: And Patrick Duhan, he's like the villain from this western right.

606
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: So whind confronted, he's cock sure he knew he wasn't

607
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: on the island at the time. He can't be tied

608
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: to the crime if it was a crime. He also

609
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: knew he had the town wrapped around his finger. So

610
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: Douhan tells Neville, why don't you ask around and see

611
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: if you can find out who started the fire? All right?

612
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: Just a challenge like, see if anyone will tell you,

613
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: maybe they will know. Right. So Nevill does exactly that.

614
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: He went around Middletown, asked the locals what they knew

615
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 3: about his missing home. Anyone seen my house?

616
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

617
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: Did they know how the fire started? Or did they

618
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: know who started the fire?

619
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Right?

620
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: Neville quickly finds out that Tory Island is a lot

621
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: like the state of New Jersey. Nobody saw nothing.

622
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: Wait, and so hold on a second. The whole island

623
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: was like one hundred. It's like one hundred and seventy

624
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: people people, and there are four towns.

625
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like, you know, forty in this town.

626
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: We're talking, Okay, So strangely nobody remembered the fire.

627
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: Huh.

628
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, in an island where not much happens, big storm

629
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: fire burns down a house right next to the new hotel.

630
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: And is this one of the larger homes in town.

631
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a six bits. Yes, it's a stately home.

632
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

633
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: And so nobody remembered how it started and didn't remember

634
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: anything about it, right, and.

635
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: They don't want their houses to burn down.

636
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: But if they did say anything, it would be like

637
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: his neighbor who he was staying.

638
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: With, look at the window, what happens?

639
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, It's like you must have seen it, right.

640
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: So this one, this neighbor, they originally sold them the home, right, like,

641
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: this used to be their house. So the same neighbor

642
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: who was supposed to take care of the bordered up home,

643
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: keep it safe, the same neighbor had lent the key

644
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: to the construction workers and said, oh, well, while you

645
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: were gone, I didn't see who started the fire either,

646
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: so they say. She says that she didn't, right, but

647
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: it's better than Elizabeth because the same neighbor did tell

648
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: Neville what she did see, or what she recalls. She said, Oh,

649
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: your house was sucked up in a whirlwind.

650
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those big stone homes.

651
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: A whirlwind took your house like the Wizard of Oz

652
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: came to Ireland and just whooped up the big stone house.

653
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: Thick wall. So island, one hundred and forty one.

654
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: People, no train in questions, nothing to do.

655
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: No one saw nothing, of course not so yeah. But

656
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: then one of the locals did tell Neville it'd be

657
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: better for him if he didn't ask who started the fire.

658
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Oh, man, don't ask questions.

659
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: Yet now he's catching stray threats. So Nevill's mind is

660
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: reeling from the sudden, shocking disappearance of his home. He's

661
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: despairing about what to do, and no one seems willing

662
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: to help him. His former neighbors. Finally, out of sheer

663
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: desperation in September of that same year, Neville contacts the police,

664
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: and they'd already investigated the fire because they determined it

665
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: wasn't arson. They said it was not malicious.

666
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Remember, okay, so it was that did they figure out.

667
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: Back when the contractor, John McGinty called, Remember the day

668
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: after the fire, when the guard a came out, So

669
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: they've already investigated this fire. Yeah, so they were like, oh, yeah, no,

670
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: we've checked it. You know.

671
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: So what did they say at the time? It was

672
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: They just said it.

673
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: Was an accident. Remember it said it wasn't malice.

674
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 1: It was just classified as oops.

675
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that was their term. It wasn't malice,

676
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: It wasn't malicious, It wasn't intentional, said they weren't. He

677
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: didn't say. So. Neville keeps asking around, investigating on his own.

678
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: Eventually speaks with McGuinty, the contractor, the guy who's building

679
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: the twelve room hotel for Patrick Duhan, big man on

680
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: the island right, and he tells Nevill that Douhan offered

681
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: him a thousand pounds to demolish the house. This was

682
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: before the fire, before the storm, This was early, This

683
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: was early in construction. McGuinty the contractor, was like, well,

684
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: I can do that, but I can't just knock down

685
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: a house because you don't like it. I need to

686
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: find out who owns it. So he didn't try very

687
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: hard to do that, apparently, because then the fire happened

688
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: and then boom problem solved. What a stroke of irish look.

689
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: So after the fire, Dowhann paid the contractor to clear

690
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: the debris and rubble, and the county signed off on

691
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: it because it's you know, and I saw I remember

692
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: the letter they said to Neville. So Dowhann is building's

693
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: twelve room hotel on the island. And then there's Neville,

694
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: the documentary filmmaker who's not there. He's overseas god knows where.

695
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: You can kind of hear how the locals will be like, oh,

696
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: we got to look out for the twelve room hotel,

697
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: guy richest man on the island instead of some guy

698
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: who's making films in New Zealand, right, some guy.

699
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: Who buys a very large home. And then just like

700
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: kicks off. So they're thinking like, oh, look at you

701
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: fancy lad, which you can do. Plus with the county

702
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: interceding like they're not on the island, they're on the mainland.

703
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: They're responsible. Yeah, they have to send people, have to

704
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: send people out to gate.

705
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: But so in their mind I can only imagine they're

706
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: thinking like, oh my god, it's another thing.

707
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: Out of the Yeah, we don't like that. Do you

708
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: want to go take the boat out. I'm not taking

709
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: the boat out this time Yetah. So no. Also, forget

710
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: that it's one hundred and fifty year old home. It

711
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: was also his life saving so he's a documentary filmmaker.

712
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: He didn't know a lot of money. He put all

713
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: his money to buy this home. Right, it's is all.

714
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: It's a profit from his life's work and now it's

715
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: all gone, right And essentially, no, it's not all gone now.

716
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: It's a car park because that's what Douhand is using

717
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: the lot for, is just parking excess cars because he guys,

718
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: remember he mentioned the giant stones. There's these giant white

719
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: stones that are put at the end of the by

720
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: the cliffs so the tourist won't drive off the edge,

721
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: all right, So that's what there is. There's a septic tank,

722
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: there's a couple of boulders. He's got a car park.

723
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: That's where home. Yeah. So Neville's sensitive artist type and

724
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: being such, this is a shock to his system. It's

725
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: too much for his constitution to bear. As he would

726
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: later say, it was like a switch had flicked in

727
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: my mind. So he fills this constant ache inside of him.

728
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: He has this twisting knot in his gut. He decides

729
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: to take matters into his own hands. He travels over

730
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: to Dublin. He and his wife. They go to the

731
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: office of the land Registry. They want to get the

732
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: records on their home and they found that the folio

733
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: for their home was missing. What yeah, that was sketch

734
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: in Dublin. So Neville's like, okay, now I need to

735
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: get a lawyer. So he goes and gets a lawyer.

736
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 3: He calls a solicitor he knew a man who'd been

737
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: his lawyer before, a man he'd known for at least

738
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: a decade. He felt like, this guy will help him.

739
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: He contacts his lawyer friend and the guy said, no,

740
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: I can't help you. He refuses to take the case.

741
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: Something is now definitely going on, and that's when he

742
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: turned to the bottle. His wife didn't know what to

743
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: do to pull him around. Eventually she leaves. Neville's now

744
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: alone in Ireland, with no home, no one to help him,

745
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: and then he has a real breakdown. In the middle

746
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: of that freak, he sends a letter to the police,

747
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: because when you're having a breakdown, it's definitely important to

748
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: contact the police. That always, that's a great.

749
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Idea here in America.

750
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: They'll come out and shoot you for free.

751
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: They'll take care of it.

752
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally. I doubt the guarde are so quick

753
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: to shoot people in Ireland, but you know, I bet

754
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: it's still not a good idea to contact the police

755
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: when you're having a breakdown. Anyway, it turns out I'm right,

756
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: because they send this cop, a sergeant freel he's like

757
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: out there, he's dealing with Neville, and he remembers this

758
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: letter that Nevill sent and in the letter, Neville said

759
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: he wanted the investigation closed. He chosen to forgive whoever

760
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: burned the house. Right, So the same sergeant he writes

761
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: up a report about Neville's request, and in his report,

762
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: the sergeant notes that I had a very peculiar conversation

763
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: with Neville, right, So he's basically saying about how Nevill's

764
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: you know, Neville mentioned he had a premonition that the

765
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: roof was going to blow off his house, and they're like, oh, okay, whatever,

766
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: So when it happened, he wasn't terribly surprised. In fact,

767
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: he called it an act of God to the cops

768
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: to the guarde. They were like, okay, whatever, mate, it's

769
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: your home. H Art was be on your way then, okay,

770
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: so there you go. Let's take a little break ye

771
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: with Yeah, when we get back, I will let the

772
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: house reappear somewhat what we're back, Elizabeth, Hey, I promise

773
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: that my man Neville would get some justice. He'd get

774
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: his house back right now. Remember I said he felt

775
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 3: like his roof blowing off was an act of God,

776
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: and that's what he felt that started this whole grizzly affair.

777
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: And you know how God can be, you know, like

778
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: before any earthly justice happens, my man Neville has his

779
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: breakdown to get through, as I told you, And so

780
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: in September of nineteen ninety four, he goes to get help.

781
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: He goes to a general practitioner, you know like a GP,

782
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: and who then refers him to a psychiatrist. And then

783
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: he meets up with a psychiatrist. This cat diagnoses Neville

784
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: bipolar and that's why he's having his breakdown. So then

785
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: the psychiatrist that has a Neville admitted to a psychiatric

786
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: hospital prescribes him heavy medication and basically locks him up

787
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 3: and throws away the key. So now at this point

788
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: Neville has lost his home, his family, his sanity, and

789
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: now his freedom. Yeah yeah, all because he bought a house. Yeah,

790
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: he's rather afraid he won't ever be let out of

791
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: this psychiatric hospital. Sure right, So in because some hotel

792
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: owner on a tiny robot island wanted a better.

793
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: View, make a car toon.

794
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: He just wanted a better view.

795
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: Developer villain, huh exactly.

796
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: So the next year his wife goes down, she gets ill. Now,

797
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: since Neville's still in the psychiatric hospital, when his wife

798
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: takes seriously ill, the young kids have no one to

799
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: take care of them. They go into state care.

800
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Well in New Zealand.

801
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, and now he's at rock bottom.

802
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 3: Neville he had to look up to see rock bottom.

803
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: That's how far Neville has fallen. He's done nothing wrong,

804
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: so he would later tell a judge that he wanted

805
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: to end it all, but I just didn't have the

806
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: courage to do it. So this is a man who,

807
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: by the way, an award winning, internationally acclaimed documentarian. That's

808
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: his life. And now he's just fully broken and he's

809
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: not even sure what has happened or why or like

810
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: is it personal or like what is going on? He

811
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: knows he's lost damn near everything in his life and

812
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: he doesn't know why.

813
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: He's like an.

814
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: Irish country song. So this this is a bit of

815
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: a bummer, right, But when I say it may sound funny.

816
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 3: I don't know. He sounds funny to me, but don't laugh.

817
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: Five years later, Neville's still in the psychiatric hospital and

818
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: they're giving him electroshock therapy and he's wondering where it

819
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: all went wrong. Oh my god, with the electrodes attached

820
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: to his head and whatnot. Lying they're about to get

821
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: another ridiculous jolt of electricity to carom. He's betting, am

822
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 3: I God? So a curse?

823
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: Like?

824
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: Am I just the Irish job? What is going on?

825
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: What is happening? So Nevill finally pulls himself together enough

826
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: to get out of the psychiatric care. Now he's back

827
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 3: out in the world. He goes right back to trying

828
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: to find out what happened to his house. I mean

829
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: like right back. Yeah. If he's gonna lose everything, he

830
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: wants to know why. He deserves to know why and

831
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: who did this.

832
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: To I think another option would be to go to

833
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: New Zealand and go take care of your kids and

834
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: just leave them.

835
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: Reasonable, Elizabeth, Yes, this is a man who's now been

836
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: he's been made to focus because everything's been taken, and

837
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: he wants to know why everything because everything's been you know,

838
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: his kids have already been harmed. You know, yes he

839
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: can go and help them, but first he's like, I

840
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: need to know why my kids were harmed, so I

841
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: can at least. I guess that's his thing. I don't know.

842
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: So now the question is was it really the obvious

843
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: villain Douhand the hotel hea or did someone else on

844
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: the island secretly hate him and he had the time

845
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: to get justice because at this point, as I remember,

846
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: he's pretty much unemployable. He's in his forties, he's got

847
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: nothing else to do, so he goes right back to

848
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: the island. He's basically, you know, as I said, been

849
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: broken by his dream of owning a home in Ireland.

850
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: And so now he's like, at least I'm getting justice,

851
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: but I'll have you know, worry not, Elizabeth. He does

852
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: get justice. In two thousand. He returns to Tory, and

853
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: even though he'd been told to let it go, he

854
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: starts asking around again people are like, are you still

855
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: on nuts? So there, you know, he's asking him, like

856
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: what happened that faithful night? And then nobody once again

857
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: nobody saw nothing. Still nobody saw nobody will help them. Yeah,

858
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: So a year later he tries a different approach. He

859
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: goes right to Patrick Douhan himself and he tries to

860
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: strike a deal. So in August of twenty and one,

861
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: he writes a letter to Douhan asking him to remove

862
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 3: two of the large white stones that are still on

863
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: his property.

864
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he owns that land, owns the lot right, and.

865
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: There may be nothing there, but he owns the lands.

866
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: He's like, get them off. They're on my land without

867
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: my permission. So then Dowhan's like, you know, he had

868
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 3: them for his car park. So the next day Douhan

869
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: writes a back of letter dar Neville further to our

870
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: conversation in the clubhouse last night, I everget that I

871
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: didn't come across the copyfacts from Donegall County Council, but

872
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: I can confirm that I cleared the road from rock

873
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: and stones and debris to make the road passable as

874
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 3: instructed by Donegal County Council. You are sincerely Pat Douhan.

875
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: So they're trying to be all businesslike, right, which is

876
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: like this is not quite right, okay, like letters back

877
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: and forth if they love letters. So apparently these two

878
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: men then had a chat about their adjoining properties, because

879
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: I remember they're right next to each other. They're hanging

880
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: out in the clubhouse at night, and they must have been,

881
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: you know, kept talking because we know in September this

882
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: that previously was in August. Now in September, Neville publishes

883
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: in the Dairy People section of the Donegal News his

884
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: public notice of an application to the Planning Authority, and

885
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: in its states, I never Press show am applying for

886
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: a planning permission for the erection of a two story

887
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: replacement dwelling at Middletown, Torrey Island. Blah blah blah. Yeah,

888
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: and then he's like me, the undersigned Neville and Pe

889
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: Douhan do here by this day two thousand and one

890
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: enter into a binding agreement why Pe dohand will secure

891
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 3: the land rights to the area shown shaded for Nevill

892
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 3: Press Show, and will assign to him the land rights

893
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 3: and ownership of that area. In pursuance I Nevill Press

894
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: Show will simultaneously assign the land rights and ownership of

895
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: the land known as blah blahah. So they're gonna do

896
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: a land swap. He's gonna buy a new lot. And

897
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: then he's like, i'll give you my lot if you

898
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: go buy me a lot. Interesting, right, So it's just

899
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: a straight swap transaction. Yeah, now signed witness, they put

900
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: they put it in the paper, so now everybody knows.

901
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, we'll do hand's doing right by him, right, Yeah,

902
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: So Elizabeth, it's not quite justice though, right, you know,

903
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: justice is what's called for. So cut to two years later,

904
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: the land swap deal did not work out. No new

905
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: home was constructed for Neville. In fact, things actually had

906
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 3: turned icy and cold, because in June of two thousand

907
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: and three, Nevill writes yet another letter, this time sent

908
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: by registered mail because it's like a legal letter. So

909
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: it's like I want to know that you received it.

910
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: And this letter once again, these letter right in irishmen.

911
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: It goes, dear Patrick. When I met you on Torre

912
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: Island December of two thousand and one, we both signed

913
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: a legally binding document in which you were to acquire

914
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: a site marked on the island exchange for you acquiring

915
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: my house site. As I've not heard from you since

916
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: we signed that document. Then I wrote to you and

917
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: again received no response. You are hereby advised to expedite

918
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: this matter within the next twenty one days. Failure to

919
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: do so will result in this issue being taken out

920
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: of my hands. So now we're going to court. Yeah, so, Elizabeth,

921
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 3: what do you think happened next? Do you think? Stop

922
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: trying to think? I'll tell you.

923
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't have to tell me to stop trying.

924
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: To think, wrote another letter, even though he received no

925
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: response to the previous letter. His final letter, dated August

926
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: sports two thousand and three, included a one hundred euros

927
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: that he sent back because apparently he borrowed the money

928
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: from Douhan and he wanted he gets straight before he

929
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: took him to court.

930
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: Even years later, exactly after.

931
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: The Neville hires a new lawyer, he takes the matter

932
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 3: back to the Guarde and then that same month, August

933
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: of two thousand and three, Neville contacts the police. He

934
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: complains that he's having all sorts of trouble with his neighbor,

935
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: the owner of the hotel, one Patrick Duhan. So the

936
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: detective it gets sent out from the mainland. This detective.

937
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: He meets with Neville, He's like, tell me the story.

938
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: A complaint gets recorded. The detective starts an investigation. He

939
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: goes around investigating. He's scouring the island for information. He's

940
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: like talking to everybody. He interviews countless locals just to

941
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: see what they know about the case. If they remember

942
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: the fire, they remember the storm, and do you remember

943
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: how the house disappeared?

944
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Remember that.

945
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Detective found that no one would speak to the police,

946
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: not a single person in this place. The detective then

947
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: spoke with the contractor, John McGuinty, who is legally tied

948
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: to this. He refuses to comment. He's like, I'm not

949
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: talking to the police, so that's a bit suss and

950
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 3: but he did confirm his prior testimony. He's like, remember

951
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: when I said years back, whatever I said, that's it.

952
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

953
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're like, okay now. Patrick Duhan, the hotel owner,

954
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: he also refuses to cooperate with this investigation, but he

955
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: provided a memo of his understanding of what occurred. He's like,

956
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: this is what I remember. Here we go, it's all

957
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: on paper. The detective reads the memo and goes, well,

958
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 3: I guess there's no case. No charges are filed. Four

959
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: years later.

960
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: It fift.

961
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: In two thousand and seven, Neville came back to the

962
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 3: guard A one more time. He refined his official complaint,

963
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: this time about the lack of justice he received. He's

964
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 3: just complaining about the cops. Now, you guys blew it. Yeah,

965
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 3: the guard as said, up, sorry, too much time has passed.

966
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: Where they go, how about this, We'll split the difference.

967
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: We'll do a fresh new investigation. So they send out

968
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: another cop. But there's now two sets crimes because there

969
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: was the fire, was or was it not? Ourson? And

970
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: then there was the home disappearing, which is a second crime.

971
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: Is that theft? Is that fraud? Is it illegal dumping?

972
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: What is that?

973
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 4: Right?

974
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: So two thousand and seven the guard a attempt to

975
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: reinvestigate the fire and the home theft back in nineteen

976
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: ninety three, the subsequent disappearance of the home and no

977
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: one on the tiny island. Remembering, there was one big

978
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 3: problem with all of this. All of the original officers

979
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: had retired. By now none of the original records are

980
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: available for the case. There isn't any record that the

981
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 3: GUARDE had ever even visited the crime scene back in

982
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: ninety three or ninety four, No photographs, nothing, only what

983
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: the county those photographs they sent to Neville. That's it.

984
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: Luckily Neville still had those photos, so he gave them

985
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: to the police and he said, here's your evidence. They're like, oh, okay, thanks.

986
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: So the police they see these piles of broken, burnt

987
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: building material, the debris, the trash.

988
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: They're like, okay.

989
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: So back in nineteen ninety four when remember Sergeant Friel

990
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: was handling the case and Neville told him to drop

991
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: the charges. Yeah, and there'd been no conclusive evidence that

992
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: the richest man on the island had done anything. However,

993
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: there was evidence that he had paid Donegal City Council

994
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: to clear the debris. So there's this paper trail. The

995
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: cops they start putting it together. They're like, well, what's this.

996
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah for it exactly.

997
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: Lacking any forensic evidence, the Guarda decide once again not

998
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: to pursue charges. Yeah, and then Neville asked them also

999
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: not to do that. So now a decade later he

1000
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: changes his mind. They're like, that's kind of weird, but

1001
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: he's like, well, I didn't want to charge anyone. And

1002
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 3: now here comes Neville again. The guardia like, so, what's

1003
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: the deal, who did it? Why are you so mad?

1004
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: So they basically start questioning him. So he's like, I'm

1005
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: not getting justice this way. So what does he do?

1006
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: He gets himself a lawyer who's not a friend. He

1007
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: files a civil lawsuit. He's gonna take it to the court.

1008
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: If nobody will get him justice, maybe a judge will

1009
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, Finally he finds someone who'll take his

1010
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: story of his missing home seriously. Most of the people

1011
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: act like it's a joke, like, oh, tell me about

1012
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: your home, right he did it up and walk away? Right,

1013
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: So this cop sees it as a crime, not a

1014
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: big cosmic joke, right. Yea. The High Court Justice Roderick

1015
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: Murphy here's his case, listens two months of testimony, gathers evidence.

1016
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: The judge eventually rules. Now, before I tell you the ruling,

1017
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: I want to read the judge's own words from the

1018
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: court documents, because, and I quote on the evidence before me,

1019
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: it appears that, by reason of his mental illness, the

1020
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: plaintiff was incapable from the date of a cruel of

1021
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: the cause of action, at least to the date of

1022
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: his instructions of his solicitor which resulted in the letter

1023
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 3: of twenty third December two thousand and three of functioning

1024
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: to a degree that would enable him to protect his

1025
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: legal rights in relation to his property as a reasonable

1026
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: man would do so. Basically, the judge is like, he

1027
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 3: was out of his gazebo. He couldn't protect his house. Yeah,

1028
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: which is great that somebody finally sees sastic. Then the

1029
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: judge offers up his ruling, having heard the evidence and

1030
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: considered the submissions on the merits of the case. The

1031
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: court is satisfied that the second name defendant hasn't continues

1032
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: to trespass on the plaintiff's property. Well, yeah, so the

1033
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: judge orders Patrick Deuhan to either buy Neville a suitable

1034
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: and comparable home on the island Whoa, or to pay

1035
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: him sixty nine thousand dollars as restitution and damages for

1036
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: disappearing Nevill's home. Finally Neville gets justice, but he'd still

1037
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: lost so much.

1038
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: This isn't really justice.

1039
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: I mean, but he gets his wife and his family back,

1040
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: he gets his sanity backs, he gets his freedom back.

1041
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: It's like playing a country song and reverse. Now, now

1042
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: he did lose his spot in the world, where he

1043
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: gets on his front porch and watch the fishermen go

1044
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: out into the sea or tack back into the harbor.

1045
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't get to have that. So with

1046
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: the remuneration, he couldn't afford to buy a home on

1047
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: Tory Island because now it become too valuable. Right, So

1048
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: you know, he'd lost his one hundred and fifty year

1049
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: old home and he doesn't have the sixty nine thousand

1050
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: won't buy him a house. Or as he put it

1051
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: in I quote, you could buy a really nice chicken

1052
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: coop without sort of money, but you'd have no money

1053
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 3: left over to buy the chickens. So, being the rich

1054
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: jerk that he is, of course, Patrick Duhand appeals the ruling.

1055
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: Of course, Now do you think he claws back the justice.

1056
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: Probably he tries to get out of paying. He's like, no,

1057
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 3: it's only worth like ten or twelve thousand dollars, that's

1058
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 3: his counterclaim. It goes all the way to the Irish

1059
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: Supreme Court. Really, yes, the court rules in Neville's face.

1060
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: Dewhan didn't even have the stones turn up in court.

1061
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: His appeal was tossed and Neville got to keep his.

1062
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: Modicum of justice, thank goodness.

1063
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: So Elizabeth. What's a ridiculous takeaway?

1064
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: Don't leave your home in the care of another. That's

1065
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: my takeaway. What about you?

1066
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's just that, Like as I said, I

1067
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: kept saying, it's like running me of a Western Yeah.

1068
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: So my whole point of this is basically, people are

1069
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: people everywhere. They always do the thing, but you're gonna

1070
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: sight with the rich person because it's in their best

1071
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 3: interests because he's gonna bring more to the island. And

1072
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 3: then this documentary filmmaker who's like doing things or trying

1073
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: to like document he did a documentary about someone trying

1074
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: to save Irish culture and they're like, not that bozo, right,

1075
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: So they're like they're not gonna help them. I'm like,

1076
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Speaker 3: here's so this guy is telling stories about people trying

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Speaker 3: to save Irish culture. He doesn't even get to keep

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Speaker 3: his no, but what do they do. They're like one

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Speaker 3: guy's like, hey, who wants an Airbnb on on Tory?

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Speaker 3: Oh there you go. I find that ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: It is ridiculous. Good takeaway.

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Speaker 3: He in the mood for a talk back to watch

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Speaker 3: this all back?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, please, what do you got for us? Oh?

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Speaker 3: God? He see that.

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Speaker 4: I went, hey, everyone. This is Asher from Southeast Missouri.

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Speaker 4: In the last episode, the Vegan One, Zarren mentioned that

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Speaker 4: they basically gone girled themselves. Wanted to tell you a

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Speaker 4: little thing about the movie Gone Girl and the crimes

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Speaker 4: that surrounded at least the restaurants that were in the movie.

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Speaker 4: I thought you would like to know that all of

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Speaker 4: those restaurants were the actual names of the places here

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Speaker 4: in town, and they ended up being shut down because

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Speaker 4: the owner of them was one of the local surgeons

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Speaker 4: and was committing fraud by requiring all of his surgeries

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Speaker 4: to use equipment exclusively sold by his wife. So sadly

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Speaker 4: none of them existed. The bar still has to sign up.

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Speaker 2: Though, incredible Gone eats exactly.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that one.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 3: As always, you can go on to the iHeart app

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Speaker 3: downloaded record a talkback just like that. Maybe we'll hear

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Speaker 3: your voice here and also we uh you know, we'd

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Speaker 3: like to hear from you, so reach out talk to

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Speaker 3: us on the Ridiculous Crime. The social media is we

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Speaker 3: are on Instagram and blue Sky. We have a Ridiculous

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Speaker 3: producer d That's all we got for you. Thanks for listening.

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