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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross, a two hour Seahawks preview for Week four.

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Speaker 1: Special guests today include wide receiver Tyler Lockett, safety Josh

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Speaker 1: Jones going to join us as well. You're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from a Lions reporters, We get an opponent preview, and

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Speaker 1: you'll also hear from all of your favorites, including Steve

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Speaker 1: Rabel and Ray Roberts. First, let's take a look back

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Speaker 1: before we take a look forward. That game against the

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Speaker 1: Falcons a tough one. Guys, Initially it felt like a shootout.

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Speaker 1: Seattle ended up finishing with twenty three points. The problem

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Speaker 1: Atlanta finished with twenty seven. Man, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: where to start with this one, bump, Why don't you

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Speaker 1: get a started with talking about the biggest problem in

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Speaker 1: this one, which was the defense. Yeah, it was a defense.

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Speaker 1: When you give up one hundred seventy nine yards a

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Speaker 1: couple of big runs one hundred forty, one hundred forty

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Speaker 1: yards by Patterson, that's where it starts. And also you

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Speaker 1: allowed Atlanta to be really good on third downs, third

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Speaker 1: and long. Starting the football. Marcus Mariot to was thirteen

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Speaker 1: It's um, it's discouraging in that sense because two things

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Speaker 1: that you need to be good at to control the game,

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Speaker 1: stopping the run and getting teams to third downs and

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Speaker 1: stopping them on third downs, you just weren't very good at.

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Speaker 1: But on the positive side, I mean, Gino still looked

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Speaker 1: like a good ball player. He threw for over three

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Speaker 1: dk involved at tight ends, get involved. But end of

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Speaker 1: the day, just wasn't enough to beat a team that

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Speaker 1: you felt like you had a chance. Again. Yeah, it's interesting,

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Speaker 1: you know if you look at the numbers, like nine

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Speaker 1: time of possession for thirty two twenty eight total yards

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Speaker 1: total plays offensively, so but yeah, it was just they

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Speaker 1: just couldn't get off the field in certain situations. So

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Speaker 1: it was you know, pretty much on the defense. There

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Speaker 1: was a couple of things. I did a little football

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Speaker 1: one on one thing about a check that maybe Gino

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Speaker 1: could have run the ball. You know, they had a

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Speaker 1: or plus you had Rashad Penny. It's a third and two.

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Speaker 1: Maybe run it there. But I'm with you, Bump. I

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Speaker 1: think Gino is he's really upped his upside. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying that a lot this this year. I felt like

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Speaker 1: Travis Homer did that, DJ Dallas did that in the

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. But he's made some plays that that

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Speaker 1: actually have surprised me, you know, and certainly in the

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Speaker 1: Denver game, not so much. In the San Francisco game,

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Speaker 1: he threw it into coverage a couple of times. But

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Speaker 1: for over a hundred yards and a touchdown, So that

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Speaker 1: was that was good to see. But you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty much on the defense right now. And they

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Speaker 1: best run game in the league in Detroit. They're pretty

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Speaker 1: trying to We've been talking about this all week. Is

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Speaker 1: it encouraging that the the fixes are very elementary and

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Speaker 1: they didn't identify the strength of the formation. There's two

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Speaker 1: something that other teams are definitely seeing and they're taking advantage. Now.

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Speaker 1: Apparently you just jog, you just run roun Burgundy, remember

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Speaker 1: when He's started this whole thing called jog. When you

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Speaker 1: They know their assignments and you know, look, this is

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Speaker 1: you know, Clint. They know, they know what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: their struggles. There's a chance that in Week four this

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Speaker 1: tell you, guys, Gino Smith has surpassed my own expectations.

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Speaker 1: This offense has surpassed my own expectations. I thought we

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Speaker 1: forty four attempts, thirty two, forty four three twenty five,

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Speaker 1: I just think we've seen him make plays and kind

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Speaker 1: two receivers who have shown that they can go for

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Speaker 1: what it takes for an offense to get going and figured, Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: there as far as cohesiveness, but because the defense typically

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Speaker 1: of Gino Smith. But what we're seeing is, Okay, there

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more coaching has to go on. But offensively,

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith has complete control of his offense and he's

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Speaker 1: are the two tackles who have exceeded expectations. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: the hot start they're having with someone who's actually playing

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Speaker 1: This is the huddle, all right, and we will be

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Speaker 1: talking to Tyler. I lock it in just a minute

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Speaker 1: on the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy

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Speaker 1: Ross while we wait on Tyler practice ending right now. Um,

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Speaker 1: team that has been featured on this year's edition of

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks Training Camp with the Detroit Lions. What have

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Speaker 1: But then they also show that they love each other.

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Speaker 1: beating the heck out of each other. But it has

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Speaker 1: I just you act like you play football in this

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Speaker 1: That's good. That's good, Tyl. I was excited. Man, I

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Speaker 1: And I think if you want to be able to

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Speaker 1: be a great team, these are the things that you

429
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Speaker 1: have to learn early. Just being able to take what

430
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Speaker 1: the team gives you, throw the ball, short, work the ball, downfield,

431
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Speaker 1: score on twelve to fifteen play drives, because any team

432
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Speaker 1: at any given moment can score on a one play,

433
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Speaker 1: two play, three play drive. But when you have teams

434
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Speaker 1: that are like, nope, you're gonna have to beat us

435
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Speaker 1: like in play drives, that's when you got to be

436
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Speaker 1: able to answer the call. And I think that's what

437
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: we've been doing on offense. Yeah. I love the way

438
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: the offense looks, man. I like the variety of it,

439
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 1: like the play action, the Titans getting involved and they

440
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Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I didn't know what to expect from Gino.

441
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, let's let's see what Gino does. Now.

442
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Speaker 1: He's been in the program for four years now. You've

443
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Speaker 1: got to see him at practice. Us on the outside

444
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,239
Speaker 1: looking in, we're like, man, Russell's gone, wasn't gonna look like?

445
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Speaker 1: Is he doing what you thought he was gonna do?

446
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 1: Or is he exceeding expectations a little bit? Yeah, I

447
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: think he's doing what everybody thought he was gonna be

448
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: able to do. I think a lot of people just

449
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: kind of forget about Geno because he hasn't really had

450
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Speaker 1: the same opportunity as a lot of other people to

451
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Speaker 1: be able to come in and play right away, and

452
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Speaker 1: so it's kind of had to wait his turn. And

453
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Speaker 1: he's been around a lot of great quarterbacks, and he's

454
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Speaker 1: been sitting behind a lot of great quarterbacks, and so

455
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: for him to finally get his opportunity, I mean, he's

456
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Speaker 1: just taking it and ran with it, and you know

457
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Speaker 1: a lot of it is just about being able to

458
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Speaker 1: make sure you're on the same page with your quarterback,

459
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Speaker 1: being able to build that chemistry. You know, you do

460
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Speaker 1: that whether you come in at OTAs or whether you

461
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Speaker 1: come in at camp. You spend time after that. You

462
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: had those conversations mentally about what his IQ is, what

463
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Speaker 1: your IQ is, Understanding defensive schemes, how corners backs are

464
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Speaker 1: about to play, like all that different type of stuff.

465
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Speaker 1: It all plays into it. But I mean he's done

466
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Speaker 1: a great job just being able to get everybody involved,

467
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Speaker 1: being able to go through like his reads, so that way,

468
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Speaker 1: like if teams are trying to take me in dk out,

469
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: it's like everybody else is able to get involved, and

470
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Speaker 1: so amas it harder for teams to figure out what

471
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Speaker 1: to be able to do because we're giving a ball

472
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Speaker 1: to each and every person. And so it helps us

473
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Speaker 1: as an offense because now we can be creative, we

474
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Speaker 1: can be able to set people up, we can do

475
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Speaker 1: whatever it is that we want. It was interesting when

476
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Speaker 1: you were miked up in the Denver game and I

477
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Speaker 1: saw some of that and one of the things that

478
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Speaker 1: you did you kind of figured out Russ's little signals

479
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Speaker 1: and things like that. So pretty much was that just

480
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Speaker 1: with Russ or you're always trying to kind of help

481
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Speaker 1: out you notice little things now that you're a veteran,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of things that go on during the

483
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Speaker 1: game that you can help out the defense or you're

484
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Speaker 1: you know some of the things that their defense gives

485
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Speaker 1: away to you. Yeah, well, I mean if it's stuff

486
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Speaker 1: that I've known or stuff that I've seen, like I

487
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Speaker 1: try to help out, give that type of advice or whatever,

488
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Speaker 1: but still tell them to kind of do you because

489
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Speaker 1: I don't want to steer anybody in their own direction.

490
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Speaker 1: I mean when we played the Broncos for the first game,

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little different because it's like you're

492
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Speaker 1: wondering if they're gonna use similar signals or not, and

493
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Speaker 1: then you want to be at you know, you want

494
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Speaker 1: to be able to point it out because it's like

495
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Speaker 1: if they are, you want to be able to let

496
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Speaker 1: people know that it's coming. And so, I mean a

497
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: lot of people are on the outside aren't going to

498
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Speaker 1: see the same signals, you know, because signals are so

499
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Speaker 1: subtle and you won't even know that people are doing

500
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Speaker 1: signals if you're just watching the game because you don't

501
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Speaker 1: even know what to look for, you know, And so

502
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Speaker 1: I think the basic thing was just making sure it

503
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Speaker 1: kind of like if we saw something boom, letting them

504
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Speaker 1: know so that way, if it comes across again, we're

505
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Speaker 1: able to be prepared for it. And so, um, I

506
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Speaker 1: mean that game, I was able to help out a

507
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Speaker 1: little bit. I forgot I was miked up, So it's

508
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Speaker 1: were able to use that, you know. But then when

509
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Speaker 1: you go into other games, I mean you kind of

510
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Speaker 1: give ideas about, you know, how quarterbacks are or if

511
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Speaker 1: it's certain receivers that I see, or how they play.

512
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Speaker 1: Like we're going against a team that's kind of like

513
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: had a similar offense as us, You're able to kind

514
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Speaker 1: of talk to him and tell them what they expect

515
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Speaker 1: and how to see it. So it's it's little stuff

516
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Speaker 1: like that. Well, really quick, what was the thing that

517
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Speaker 1: you picked up on that Russell was doing? It was

518
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Speaker 1: a signal for a go round? I'm like that, yeah, yeah, yeah,

519
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Speaker 1: I've been focusing on just the progress of the team,

520
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I've seen what forty seven plays,

521
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Speaker 1: forty nine then sixty nine getting better on third downs,

522
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Speaker 1: opening up the past game. We look at the team.

523
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Speaker 1: I told people like, don't even worry about the record, Like,

524
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Speaker 1: what does this team look like week by week? How

525
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: do you feel like the team is moving? You feel

526
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Speaker 1: like we're going in the right direction. Yeah, I mean,

527
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're headed in a great direction. That

528
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Speaker 1: was one of the things that sign Jay, our receiver,

529
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Speaker 1: coach said. It was just focus on being able to

530
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Speaker 1: get better each week as an offense, and the record

531
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Speaker 1: would be what the record would be, but we could

532
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Speaker 1: be able to be so great on offense. And I mean,

533
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Speaker 1: you've seen when we started off against the Broncos how

534
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: the offense was looking, and we were told that they

535
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Speaker 1: had one of the best defenses in the league, and

536
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Speaker 1: we were doing phenomenal, especially in the first half. Obviously,

537
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Speaker 1: we only had the ball like three times in the

538
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Speaker 1: second half, and so we moved the ball down and

539
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: then we kind of gave it up, and then we

540
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: moved the ball and down again, and then we punt it,

541
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Speaker 1: and then we punt it, you know what I mean.

542
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Speaker 1: So we still did a great job moving the ball

543
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Speaker 1: down the field when we're on the two yard line,

544
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: and now we take it to the fifty and so

545
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: then you go against San Fran and we kind of

546
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: hurt ourselves on the early downs. But even on the

547
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: third downs, we're not getting the third downs, but we're

548
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: still catching the ball and getting it close to where

549
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: it was third and two or to where it was

550
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Speaker 1: I mean fourth and two or fourth and one, and

551
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: so the completion is worn't the issues on third down.

552
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: It was just we were hurting ourselves early on. And

553
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: so then you go from near to the Falcons, and

554
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: you know, we're able to run the ball a lot better,

555
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Speaker 1: We're able to pass the ball a lot better, we're

556
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Speaker 1: able to find the open holes, we're able to make

557
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Speaker 1: plays after the catches, and so now it's like being

558
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: able to consistently build that up. So San Fran it

559
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: was like, man, we would buy a field goal if

560
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: we could, you know. And then the Atlanta we get

561
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: field goals and now it's like, okay, let's turn those

562
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Speaker 1: and touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not stressing about Seas

563
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: having scored a touchdown in the second half. It's about

564
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Speaker 1: how can we continue to get better and just put

565
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Speaker 1: points up on the board, because as long as we

566
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: can do that, we give ourselves a chance. Well, I know,

567
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: we gotta let him go. Yeah, why do you say

568
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Speaker 1: guard instead of cover When somebody's covering you, you don't

569
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Speaker 1: have dave because they can't guard you. That's why can't

570
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Speaker 1: guard me. I think garden. I think garden is more

571
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Speaker 1: so like when you're a man, you know, like the

572
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Speaker 1: defense says I have to guard, he has to cover me.

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Speaker 1: You say, they're not called guardages, they're called coverages. But

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Speaker 1: you guy, I know Josh Jones is a cover guy.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to. We're gonna yeah, we're gonna talk

576
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Speaker 1: to Josh Jones. Uh, you've had a very long week,

577
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Speaker 1: you have a busy week ahead of you. We're gonna

578
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Speaker 1: let you go. Ignore Wyman, Thank you so much, Tyler.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dave, speaking of Josh Jones, he is going

580
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Speaker 1: to be joining us and just one minute here and

581
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Speaker 1: uh we uh then after Josh, we're gonna talk a

582
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: little bit, maybe see if we can take a listen

583
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Speaker 1: in uh to Gino. Josh Jones, by the way, has

584
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: been starting in place of an injured Jamal Adams. It

585
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: is Josh Jones's season now and he joins us right

586
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: now on the huddle. Uh, Josh, obviously you know how

587
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: this works your veteran, not your first time for you know,

588
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: being thrown out. There were there any nerves though, because

589
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: it was unexpected. No, it's not any nerves all. But

590
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: I do have to, you know, just play my game

591
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: and then play a little bit more free. I felt

592
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: like I didn't do that, you know, last week. So

593
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: just going out there and just kind of having a

594
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: you know, just a free you know, my set and

595
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: let my mind and my body just flow. Did you

596
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: hear the conversation we had with Tyler just now about

597
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Speaker 1: guard dab you're gonna asked the same question? Yeah, I

598
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Speaker 1: think I don't know. Somebody asked me that before. I

599
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: think it was a couple. Yeah, yeah, you couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. And this is what I said. I said,

601
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: when you're working with other guys, is coverage? Yeah, Um,

602
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: it's not called a guardage. It's called so you cover,

603
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: you don't guard. Right, That's that's true. Okay, I agree

604
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: with you. Don't force you. No, No, we agree, we agree.

605
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: Last I'm just trying to get people to agree with it. Right. Right.

606
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: You had a great story, man, and we talked about

607
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: it on our show. A couple like you said a

608
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and it is really inspiring. And really,

609
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of it had to do with

610
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: just the power of Pete Carroll. And you know, he

611
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: is just such a such a great motivator. I always,

612
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, said, God, I wish I would have could

613
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: have played for him, because he just he brings more

614
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: out of people than most. You got a you got

615
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good, cool story about the It was the

616
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: night before the errors last year that you uh kind

617
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: of tell us take us three that a little bit,

618
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: because you were, you know, thinking about well, yeah, yeah kids. Yeah.

619
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Speaker 1: So I mean, you know when I got here, Um obviously,

620
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Speaker 1: um you know I got here you know, kind of

621
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: late in the season, and then um, you know, first

622
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: you know those first three weeks and then the last week, Um,

623
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, things happened, like the COVID issue, and um,

624
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: you know they came to me. I think it was

625
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: like a Thursday, may have been a Friday. I know

626
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: it was like a little later in the week. It

627
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: probably like probably around today, like you know you're gonna

628
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: be You're gonna be playing a lot, gonna be possibly starting.

629
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Speaker 1: Um so I'm like all right cool. Um. Uh so

630
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: ran through the playbook. Um. And then like the night before,

631
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, before like snack or whatever. You know, me

632
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: and Pete, you know, we ran into each other and um,

633
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, we just had a conversation man, and he

634
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: just said, no matter what happens, good or bad, just

635
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: go out there and it's just football and just play.

636
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Just be free. You know, you don't have to make

637
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: it bigger than what it is. You don't have to press. Um,

638
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: just play. And this is what I did. Um, And

639
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: it had a pretty good I think I had a

640
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: pretty good game. It was had a pretty game to

641
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: never have been playing with those guys and then never

642
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: be in that system and um, and that's kind of

643
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: what I gotta I think I gotta get back to

644
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: you know now, Yeah, Man, I watch you play, and

645
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: I see a little bit of everything. Man. I see coverage,

646
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: I see you get in the box, and I got

647
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: to be better and coverage. Man, I ain't gonna lie

648
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: to you. Well, I see you, I see you getting

649
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: your hands on the ball a couple of times. So

650
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: you're in the right coverage of the right place at

651
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: the right time. When if you were to describe your

652
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: game to somebody who's never seen you play. How would

653
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: you describe it? No, man, I'm just a football player.

654
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: I just I feel like, man, I can you know,

655
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: just whatever whatever is needed. You know, I'm not I'm

656
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: not a I'm not a finesse guy and I'm not

657
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: like a guy like a camp chancellor. So it's kind

658
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: of like a like an in between, like you know,

659
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: I can I can be a guy that that can

660
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: be physical, and you know, I can be a guy

661
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: that can be you know, a versatile and you know,

662
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: playing a half or you know, quarters coverage, whatever it

663
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: may be. So I just feel like, you know, it's

664
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: it's just just the way, God bless me. You know,

665
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm able to do certain things. We heard Jamal came

666
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: out and gave everybody a big speech and ever think

667
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: he was in a wheelchair or something like that when

668
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: he got hurt. But is he uh? Is he in

669
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: your ear? Does he coach you up a little bit? No?

670
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: Not not. I haven't uh you know, spoken to Jamal,

671
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: you know since you know, um, you know the injury happened. Um, um,

672
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still obviously wishing him the best. And

673
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, for a speedy recovery, you get some really

674
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: good coaches though, don't you. I mean, listen to Scott

675
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: and Kay Scott Man and and and Sean desad Man.

676
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: Those are you know. And that's no disrespect to the

677
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: coach that I've had, because I've had some amazing coaches,

678
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, in my past, but you know, I would

679
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: say those two are the best coaches I've I've had,

680
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, dB Wise all right, he is Seahawks safety

681
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: Josh Jones. Uh, Josh, thanks for taking the time. We

682
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and hopefully we get to talk to

683
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: you again later this season with a bit more time,

684
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: y man, Thank you, thank you. All right, do not

685
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: go anywhere. This is the huddle. You are listening to

686
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and Stacy Ross.

687
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen into Geno Smith. I think we're

688
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: still learning, you know. The first three weeks have kind

689
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: of been up and down. We've had, you know, a

690
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: lot of stretches where we've been really good, and then

691
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: we've had some stretches where we haven't really moved it much.

692
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: And a lot of that I think is on us,

693
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think things that we can clean up.

694
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: But overall, man, we you know, I feel like the

695
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: guys are locked in. Everyone's you know, been together and

696
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, the brotherhood and all the things that we

697
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: talk about in the offseason. It's really showing up. So

698
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, guys are really just you know, banding together.

699
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, you just see the leadership showing up,

700
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: you know, again and again out there on the field,

701
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: in the practice field, in the in the meeting rooms

702
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: and uh. Overall, Man, I think we're still learning about ourselves.

703
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: But so far, you know, I think we did some

704
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: great things and then some things we have to clean

705
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: up as well. Took some big steps last week on offense,

706
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: but the red zone still looks like it's an issue.

707
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: Twenty five percent of the time scoring touchdown so far

708
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: the first two games. What do you think is holding

709
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: the offense back inside the twenty right now? Um, you know,

710
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: I just think we need to finish. We get into

711
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: the red zone. We just got to go out there

712
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: and finish. We got to score touchdowns in the red zone.

713
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: Can't um just be happy with settling with field goals. Obviously,

714
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be things happen, and um, there's

715
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: been things that have happened where we've shot ourselves in

716
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: the foot here and there. But for the most part, man,

717
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, we just gotta finish. It just comes down

718
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: to our want to and our will to finish in

719
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: the original years. What about the way you guys handle

720
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: travel and living in say, how every game it seems

721
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: like a long trip and theory should be tough because

722
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: you're getting up earlier. But what do you think allows

723
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: you guys to play well? Well? This to me, I

724
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: think coach has has put together a great schedule for

725
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: us going on the road. Um, we do a lot

726
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: of two day, two day trips, especially going to the

727
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: East Coast, and uh, you know, I think, uh, you know,

728
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: coaches does a great job of getting us ready. Um,

729
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: you got guys like our strength staff who are just

730
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: fired up in the mornings on game day, you can

731
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: hear them yelling from your room, and there's music blasting

732
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: the environments up tempo, and so you know when you

733
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: know when the game's come about, man, like, you got

734
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: no choice but to wake up and be ready. And

735
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: I think the two day trips help a little bit

736
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: too as well. But um, for the most part, man,

737
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: it's all coaching and his staff and the way they

738
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: get us prepared. What did you see within how the

739
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: Detroit kind of shut down Justin Jefferson last week. Can

740
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: we expect them to do something like that? Yeah? They Yeah,

741
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: you know, they doubled them. Um, they played man and

742
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: they played great coverage. Um. You know, it's the reality.

743
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: They played great coverage on Justin and uh, he's a

744
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: great player. Um, and we have great players on our

745
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: side as well, So we expect to see some of

746
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: the same things. Uh. You know, if it works, they're

747
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna try it again until we can solve them. So

748
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: we can expect some doubles and a lot of man coverage,

749
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: and you know, we just got to be ready to

750
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: go out there and win. Um. You know, we got

751
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: a lot of great guys, really good receivers all over

752
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 1: the place who can go out there and make plays

753
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: happen for so getting those guys involved as well as

754
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: getting DK the ball when you know, when the opportunity arises, um,

755
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna pay off. I think now we're

756
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: having a DK and Tyler really pays off of two

757
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of number one guys where they want to yet

758
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: on one guy I freeze up there. Yeah. I think

759
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: just having dk Tyler, Marquis d Noah, you know, Will

760
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: did this league, Kobe Parkinson. I mean, just you know,

761
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: a multitude of guys who can go out there and

762
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: get it done. Our backs as well in the receiving game.

763
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: So just having a bunch of guys out there and multiple,

764
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: multiple options, I think really gives us a good chance.

765
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: There's something unique on film about the Way to Detroit

766
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: dolls of the blizzes versusility teams do it. Uh, yeah,

767
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: they have a lot of uniqueness to them. Um. You know,

768
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: Coach Glenn does a great job mixing up the looks

769
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: and you know, getting you know, some some non normal

770
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: matches out there, some things for you to look at,

771
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: mugging guys up at the line of experiments. So they

772
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: got a bunch of different looks. And then there'll be

773
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: some things that we haven't seen on film. You know,

774
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: it's still early in the season, so I'm pretty sure

775
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: they have some things up their sleep as well. So

776
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: we just gotta be ready for whatever they throw at us. Um,

777
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: we're preparing for it. And you know, we've done a

778
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: great job, you know the past few games of picking

779
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: up blitzes and recognizing things and our communication has been

780
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: great as well, So we just got to continue that

781
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: and just be ready to, uh you know, for whatever

782
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: else they have for us, then wins the game. Prep.

783
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: Do you guys do like blitz work every day like

784
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: a Friday? Yeah? Yeah, we we try and do it

785
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: every day. I mean that's the first thing I watched

786
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: when I watched film. It's all their pressures and see

787
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: where it's coming from and how they you know, what

788
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: the fronts look like and how they do it. And

789
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: so we talk pressures every single day. I mean, as

790
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, they can call a blitz on any play,

791
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be third down. So, um, we're we're

792
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: always just trying to find new looks and figure out

793
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: ways to you know, solve those problems. Did you watch

794
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: hard No, do you remember what happened ten years ago

795
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: to that? Not at all? What happened ten years ago.

796
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Baylor and uh West Virginia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was

797
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: a fun That was a fun game. Yeah back in

798
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: the day. It was the first game. It was the

799
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: first game West Virginia in the Big twelve and uh,

800
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: you know they were it was a good game against Baylor.

801
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: Happened to get to win. Yeah, yeah, that was pretty cool.

802
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: Hownything's changed with your your thirt down offensive all without

803
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: travisphying don't there? Oh man, Travis is uh you know,

804
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: he's a big loss for us. Um. You know, Travis

805
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: does a great job in protections as well as catching

806
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: out the backfield, and uh you know, he's really having

807
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: a you know, he had a great preseason, was having

808
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: a strong season start to the season. So, um, you know,

809
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: but we have guys who can pick it up. DJ

810
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Dallas is another guy who can step right in and

811
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: fill those shoes. Uh, you know, we got Penny of course,

812
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: and then um, you know Ken Walker as well, So

813
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: obviously we you know, we'll miss Travis and he's a

814
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: big part of our team. But um, you know, having

815
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: those other guys as well really really helps us out.

816
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: How does your experience help one more time? How do

817
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: you think your experienced fact is your second full time

818
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: starting get how do you think that's showing up in

819
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: games to help people? I mean, I don't know how

820
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: to answer that one. Um. I feel like just my

821
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: experience in ten years in the league, I've I've seen

822
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: a lot of football, I've been around a lot of

823
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: football and just over the course of my life really

824
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: and so you know, experience is the best professor. You

825
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: learn a lot from your experiences, and uh, you know,

826
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: me being in the league for this long, um, I

827
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, the game flow down quite

828
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: a bit for me. I feel like I can anticipate

829
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: things a lot, and uh for the most part, man,

830
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: Like you know, every game is a new game. Every

831
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: week's a new week, so there's gonna be different challenges

832
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: and new things that you got to learn from. But uh,

833
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel really good about where I'm

834
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: at right now. All right, Coming up next, we are

835
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: going in the trenches with Ray Roberts. Don't go anywhere.

836
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: This is a huddle, the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

837
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross. We are going in the trenches with

838
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: Ray Roberts joining us right now. First of all, Ray,

839
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: very excited to talk to you today. Unfortunately we have

840
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: to talk about the Seahawks coming off of a loss.

841
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: What went wrong in this one? Uh, you know, I

842
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: think for the for the most part, the defense couldn't

843
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: come up with some stops and then obviously down the

844
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: stretch there, uh, you know, the holding call against Damien

845
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: just kind of really uh through a wrench in how

846
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: things were going. But I was I was impressed with

847
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: the way the offense. They kept talking about all week

848
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: about the offense being opened up, and it wasn't just

849
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: going the ball beat, but it was just kind of

850
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: really opening the playbook to all the different plays and

851
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: the different weapons, and so I really like that could

852
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: use a little more pressure on the quarterback from the

853
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: defense and a little more playmaking in the run game

854
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: to kind of get off the field on third down, Ray,

855
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: we saw Rashad Penny get fourteen touches, but I want

856
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: to say the most explosive play on the grounds from

857
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: ken Walker the third it was on that little jet

858
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: sweepy game twenty one yards. Do you think we need

859
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: to see more of ken Walker in the run game

860
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: and how do you think they get Rashad going this week? Well?

861
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: I think they we need to see more of Rashad

862
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: Penny in the run game. I mean, this dude finished

863
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: with his hair on fire last year. I mean, if

864
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: you just took the last five games, he was probably

865
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: one of the top two or three running backs in

866
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: the league. I think he rushed for like seven hundred

867
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: yards or something in five games and we just haven't

868
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: been able to see him. We've seen him get loose

869
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. He had a couple long calls called

870
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: back on, I mean long runs called back on, holding calls,

871
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: but we haven't seen them feed him the ball. And maybe,

872
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't take as many game reps in

873
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: the preseason, so maybe they've building them up to it.

874
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: But he needs to get upwards of eighteen carries or

875
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: something just to get himself established. He's kind of a

876
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: volume runner, and as he's starting to get into a

877
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: rhythm with the offensive line, then all of a sudden

878
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: they go away from him. So I think if thee

879
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: always want to be successful this week, they have to

880
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: really feature Rashaun Penny and then do those things that

881
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: they were also doing with Kim Walker. Yeah, hey, Ray

882
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit. First of all, if you

883
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: think that that was I didn't think it was an

884
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: egregious holding call on Damian Lewis, but yeah, technically probably

885
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: should have got his hands inside a little bit more

886
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. But on that play, it was kind of

887
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: weird because it was that throwback screen and it looked

888
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: like you had almost the entire offensive line over there,

889
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: and if you go back and look at it, which

890
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: I know you have, there's like guys that are kind

891
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: of like just jogging or just standing around like they

892
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: didn't know that it was going to happen. And that

893
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: was the most devastating finally of the game. And they

894
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: would have been first and ten at the ten yard line,

895
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: I think. But yeah, well there was a lot going

896
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: on on what There was a lot going on on

897
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: that play, Dave, And it took my eyes a while

898
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: to catch up to where the ball was going. And uh,

899
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: when you're standing out there that long, you know, your

900
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: three hundred and some pounds, you're trying to you know,

901
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: play and block against these little dudes that are quick

902
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: and fast and more athletic and space you started, you

903
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: tend to kind of reach out and want to gather

904
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: people and just grab so they don't get away from you.

905
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: And so I think that's where Damien kind of got

906
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: uh stuck on that as his hands was a little

907
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: bit outside the frame of the body. But when you're

908
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: trying to stand there and play, uh your basketball with

909
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: a guy that is more athletic than you, you just

910
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: try to grab him anywhere you can. And then that

911
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: little just that little bit of separation where the defender

912
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: tried to pull back and you saw the cloth. That's

913
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: what created the holding call. But uh, that that took

914
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: a lot. I think probably the reason the guys were

915
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of slow plan it was because it took a

916
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: long time for that play to developed. And so unfortunately,

917
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, you can see that holding called twenty thirty times,

918
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, a game, and it doesn't get called, but

919
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: it got called in that situation and really hurt, really

920
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: hurt the team. I'm excited to read this stat for

921
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: both your reaction and Dave's Pro Football Focus has the

922
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: Seahawks with their thirty first in run blocking according to

923
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: their grade from Pro Football Focus and Ray. It's kind

924
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: of weird because when they have run the ball, to

925
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: my eyes right as just a viewer who's never played

926
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: offensive line in my life, I've thought, you know what,

927
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: it seems more like just a lack of rushes and

928
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: carries as opposed to you know, Penny not looking good

929
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: when he's out there. When you watch this offensive line

930
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: and Penny in tandem, is the issue the opportunities or

931
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: is the issue play along the interior offensive line? Well,

932
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: I al would say it's the opportunities. I mean, because

933
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: Penny is averaging almost four and a half yards to

934
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: carry and so, and he's only touching the ball probably

935
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: an average of you know less than you know thirteen

936
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: times times a game. And so I think in order

937
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: to build that stat up to you have to get

938
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: more yards and give more opportunities and get into a rhythm.

939
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: Then you can really get you know, the defense on

940
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: the hills and something you're blocking is all the better.

941
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: But I do think the way the Seahawks have opened

942
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: up the offense, you know, throwing the ball using the

943
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: tight ends, like the all three tight ends had a

944
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: reception and like at least two receptions in two of

945
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: the three games, uh, using DK and Tyler, and then

946
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: the fly sweep with I mean, all the different things

947
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: that they're doing. The one thing they just have not

948
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: opened the box completely on is the run game. And

949
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: so I really hope that that's part of what they

950
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: do this week because if you look at the Detroit

951
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: lines definitive line, they have some uh, some good players,

952
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: but that's not a whole lot of production there. Hudges

953
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: and the rookie is kind of leading them in sacks.

954
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: I think he has three sacks, but other than that,

955
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: like there's no one that's super dangerous there, you know,

956
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: And so I think they really do need to lean

957
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: on this office a little bit on the offensive line

958
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: and get this running going to kind of compliment what

959
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: they're doing with the passing game. And then it also

960
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: gives you more time of possession to keep the defense

961
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: freshen on the sideline. Their rust defense is given up

962
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty two game yards a game. So yeah,

963
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of interesting how these the stats wise,

964
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: although their offense is actually I think second or something,

965
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, and their passing game is pretty good. Dope

966
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: Jared Goff somehow getting it done there. But uh yeah,

967
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: I feel like this is going to be one of

968
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: those uh ones where you know, you really test yourself

969
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: to see who's more physical. And we all saw you know,

970
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: hard knocks and you know, it seems like it's a

971
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: physical team. Ray. I mean, it seems like that's kind

972
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: of their their grit there. You know, they body, what

973
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: their their coach is all about. But yeah, I think

974
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: that this could be one where it's really all about

975
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: being physical. It feels like to me, yeah, it's it's

976
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: kind of been a street fight for real. Like I've

977
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: said before, like when Dan Campbell first came on the scene,

978
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if if he was the dude, you know,

979
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: because he was the guy talking about biting the kneecaps

980
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: and things and and uh and that stuff sounds good

981
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: in the press conference, but it's like, but the team

982
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: has really bought into who he is, and I think

983
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: they play that way and they and that's how the

984
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: city of Detroit is tough, gritty Brazilian city, and so

985
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: they know they are reflective of that. Absolutely played there

986
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: for six years and so um. I do think though

987
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: that it. You know, they make up for a lot

988
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: of things through their hustle, through their even if you

989
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: look at the rookie Hutchinson that they drafted, he kind

990
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: of epitomizes the mentality. If you watch him on tape.

991
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: He's not the most explosive dude. He's not the fastest guy,

992
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: he's not the strongest dude. But he is like going

993
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: twenty I mean a million miles an hour the entire play.

994
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: So you can't like think you haven't blocked in and

995
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: give up because he'll end up making a play. I

996
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: think that's how he got like at least two or

997
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: three sacks he has it just kind of hustle sacks,

998
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: and so the whole team seems to seems to play

999
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: that well. And then in the run game, if they

1000
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: are able to get their running game established, then you know,

1001
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past that golf can then take

1002
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: advantage of that with the playoff, should pass and pushing

1003
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: the ball down the field and all those kinds of things.

1004
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: So their their offense scores thirty one points a game,

1005
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: their defense gives up thirty one points game. So so

1006
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: the fiataffs are going to have to really be on

1007
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: their on their game in the front seven. Like they

1008
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: need Darryl Taylor, they need Punah four, they need uh

1009
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: Mon Aid, they need uh Jordan Brooks and Cody Cody Martin.

1010
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: They all of those guys need to be playmakers and

1011
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: not just be in the spots that's supposed to be,

1012
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: but they need the impact players. This week, Ray the

1013
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: Lions give up are rushing for one hundred and seventy

1014
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: yards per game. So far, Is there anything that to

1015
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: see how defense can do to slow them down? Well,

1016
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: the one thing I think that they may be having

1017
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of a problem with is when you

1018
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: run kind of those three four concepts. A lot of

1019
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: times the guards have free runs is really a free

1020
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: run to the to the linebackers, and so I think

1021
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: maybe trying to cover up h you know, kind of

1022
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: eat up the guard in the center a little more, uh,

1023
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: and the trenches so that Jordan and Cody can have

1024
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: space to kind of run and fail gaps and make plays.

1025
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that and the

1026
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: one the first thing that impacts the running game is

1027
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: to get the defense to play on the on the

1028
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the offensive line, so that

1029
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: means that you're getting pushed on the offensive line in

1030
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: the middle. The running back has to make a decision

1031
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: as he's getting the ball, or he wants to has

1032
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: to make a cut before he wants to, all those

1033
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: kinds of things, and then you have to have those

1034
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: secondary guys filling those gaps and fitting in those gaps

1035
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: to kind of put the stop on I think, uh,

1036
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: you know, Johnson Junior and maffe plan on the edge.

1037
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: I think we'll probably see more of that because they

1038
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: set the edges better, and those edges are going to

1039
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: keep getting tested until we're until they prove that they

1040
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: can stop it. So those types of things are going

1041
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: to have to happen. The slowdest run getting down. Remember

1042
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: the big session we had Ray at Interlake High School

1043
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: when we were getting ready to play. Who was the

1044
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 1: team that ran the fly sweep the high school teams?

1045
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: Was that Liberty? Liberty? Thank you and remember you and

1046
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: I had set up that whole drill of how to

1047
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: protect the perimeter and always turn it back inside and

1048
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: keep your shoulder square. I feel like the Seahawk defense

1049
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: needs to have one of those kind of clinics. Yeah, exactly.

1050
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: If they if they toss us a few bones, Dave,

1051
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, we can go out there and knock it

1052
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: out for them, Like I always say that, Like Dave said,

1053
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to be the traffic cop and turn

1054
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: them back into the bad guys. That's what we kept

1055
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: trying to tell them. You get up right and then

1056
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: they got it. They got it, turned them back to

1057
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: the bad guys and you made the tackle. You get

1058
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: up and you shake his hand first. Thank you. He

1059
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: is Ray Roberts. You can hear on the Seahawks pre

1060
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: and post game show and every Thursday when we go

1061
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: in the Trenches with Ray Roberts. Thanks Ray, oh, thanks

1062
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: for having me. Guys, all right, we're gonna bring on

1063
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: the Voice of the Seahawks, Sea Rabel. Next. You are

1064
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and

1065
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: Stacey's joining us now the Voice of the Seahawks, Steve

1066
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: Rabel and Rabes. I wish we had a better game

1067
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: to talk about, but we do have an exciting one

1068
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: to preview. At least first though, I got to start

1069
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: with looking back, it was not the best performance from

1070
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: the defense. Does this Felix stuff they can fix this season? Well?

1071
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: It does. And you know what's interesting because I'm gonna

1072
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: interview Pete in a little while, and one of my

1073
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: questions to him a sort of if you can call

1074
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: it a question, but basically was after the game, right

1075
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: after the game, and everybody was bummed, you know, the

1076
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: way it ended the other night. But I said to

1077
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: some people who were listening, and not many people do that,

1078
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, I was encouraged in some ways. There was

1079
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: some positives to take out of that game offensively, especially

1080
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: I saw some things on defense that were getting better

1081
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: and some things that needed work. And then I listened

1082
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: to Pete on the way home, and Pete said the

1083
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: same thing. He said, you know what, it wasn't all bad,

1084
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: he said, you know, he felt kind of positive about

1085
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: some things. Now, there's lots to correct, but you know,

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00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: that's why you play these games. It's not like we're

1087
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: two and twelve. You know, we're one and two right now,

1088
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: and there's still the whole season ahead of you, so

1089
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: you've got lots of time to get well. But you

1090
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: gotta you know, you have to make the corrections and

1091
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: the guys have to understand it and then execute it.

1092
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: It seems like it's going to be a fist fight

1093
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: out in That's the way Ray Roberts put it. I

1094
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 1: think he's right. I mean, you look at you gotta

1095
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: be really physical in this game. In Detroit, they're pretty

1096
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: similar as far as other than their offense is is

1097
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: pretty high powered, but they still have a dope running

1098
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: their offense. I'm sorry, Jared Goff, I'm not I'm not

1099
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: buying it. No love loss for Jared Goff from where

1100
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm in, but I mean it seems like pretty well now, Dave, yeah,

1101
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: I know, well well, and maybe that's his home, you know,

1102
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: he found the right place and everything, but yeah, it

1103
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: does seem like it's a very fundamental and raves I

1104
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: talked to Dan Miller, the play by play guy on radio,

1105
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: and he said, you know that whole thing about you know,

1106
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: the Dan Campbell talking about biting kneecaps. He said, that

1107
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: was like forty seconds of the press conference, but the

1108
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: rest of the thirty or forty minutes, you know, everybody

1109
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: just fell in love with him and really decided that

1110
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: that guy is he's the real deal. It's not some

1111
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: kind of act that he's put on. But it just

1112
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: seems like the hallmark of that team, the Lions, is physicality. Yeah. Yeah,

1113
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: and you can see then just by listening to him.

1114
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: And you know, we watched him on Hard Knocks and

1115
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: you saw how he reacted and what he's like around

1116
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: the players because he was a player. He was a

1117
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: player for a dozen years. Yeah, and he would be,

1118
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, in the dictionary under journeyman, that's him. He

1119
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: was not a star. Most people wouldn't have known his

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00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: name other than the fact that he was kind of

1121
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: a backup guy doing his thing with a number of

1122
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: different teams. But he learned along the way from coaches

1123
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: and he learned what he wanted to do and what

1124
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: he didn't want to do as a coach, and he's

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00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: true to himself. I mean in that way he molds

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00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: these young guys. He gets them to play hard, and

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00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: he reminds me, you know, a lot of the way

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00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: Pete treats his players. He lets them be themselves. You

1129
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: better perform, but he lets that come out in them.

1130
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: And even Digley said it yesterday that you know, there

1131
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: was a time during the last regime when he got

1132
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: traded to the Seahawks, that that wasn't the case that

1133
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: you had to conform to the coach. Well, that coach

1134
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: is no longer there. That's what led to Dan Campbell,

1135
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: and it led to Digs being here and leading the

1136
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: way for us on defense. So there's a lot of

1137
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: good things to talk about, and they're building a heck

1138
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: of a team. You know, he can't draft as high

1139
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: as they have over the last half dozen years or

1140
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: so and not have some pretty good football players. So

1141
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: it is it's gonna be it's gonna be a dog fight.

1142
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: They're really banged up. When you looked at that injury

1143
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: list from yesterday, I don't know how big it's going

1144
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: to be today, but they're gonna be missing a number

1145
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: of their really key players, and that's going to be

1146
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: a good thing for the Seahawks. We'll sell Raves personal conversation.

1147
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just checking out my guy Rays real quick,

1148
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: saying hello to the legend. Hey man, um are you

1149
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to figure out if I am one

1150
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: hundred percent bought in that Geno Smith can continue to

1151
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: play the way that he's been playing. I know guys

1152
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: have bad games, right, Tom Brady has bad games. Pat

1153
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Mahomes has bad games. Are you Boden? Do you think

1154
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: this is? This is Gino? We can expect consistency in

1155
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: his play throughout the season. I do, and mostly it's

1156
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: because of what they're asking of him. Um, you know,

1157
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: he knows the offense. He understands the timing of getting

1158
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands. Um, he's already made

1159
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: it a point and I think Shane Waldron has really

1160
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: pressed on this. Keep the tight ends involved. That's a

1161
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: great way to get the ball out of your hands

1162
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: and get positive yards rather than standing there waiting for

1163
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: something to happen downfield when you know they're playing shell

1164
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: coverage and they're they've got a safety over the top

1165
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: trying to take away any kind of deep throws. So yeah,

1166
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: I think as long as he continues. You know, Okay,

1167
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: the ball got away from him the other day the

1168
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: last throw of the game, and that was unfortunate. I

1169
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: think he got hit too, just as he was getting

1170
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. But as long as he doesn't

1171
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, he's gonna, I think, be in

1172
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: the good graces of Pete because that's the number one thing,

1173
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: protect the ball, and he's doing a good job of that,

1174
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: and he commands the huddle, all those things that you

1175
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: need him to be he's doing. So I think it's

1176
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: a plus if everybody else can play up to the

1177
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: kind of level that Geno's given him right now, which

1178
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: may not be the level of a you know, Aaron

1179
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers or something like that. But if if you're playing

1180
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: up to the level Geno's playing at and you're protecting

1181
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: the ball, we can win a lot of football games. Rabs.

1182
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember as a player that like when things

1183
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: just click for you barely? Yeah, well, I know it

1184
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: was one hundred years ago, but it was. Yeah, but

1185
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, we saw ken Walker and I think we

1186
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: talked about this during the broadcast. I think that's the

1187
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: first fly sweep that we saw them run this year.

1188
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, but um, I don't know. I felt

1189
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: like on that play and the way he got up

1190
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: and celebrated, I feel like the game maybe has slowed

1191
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: down for him, and maybe that's that's something that to

1192
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: kind of look for. Like I don't know if you

1193
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: remember that as a as a players, Like, once you

1194
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: do something like that, you know, you put it in

1195
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: your back pocket and it's like, you know, hey, I

1196
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: got this. The game. Game has slowed down for me?

1197
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Is that kind of what you yeah, what you've seen

1198
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: saw from him? Yeah, exactly. And it's funny. I was

1199
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: talking to a guy from a radio in Detroit just

1200
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: today and he was asking me about ken Walker because

1201
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: he's you know, obviously watched him back there at Michigan

1202
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: State and he just wowed everybody back there the way

1203
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: he played. And I said, and he's wowed us at times,

1204
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: but I said, Pete also said, you know, he we're

1205
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about him and his enthusiasm, but we'd be more

1206
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: enthusiastic if if we know he's going to do the

1207
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: right thing. You know he went the wrong way now

1208
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: once or twice in games on a handoff inside hand off,

1209
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: and you can't do that. Your quarterback gets hammered. But

1210
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: boy has he shown that that ability to stop, start, jump, cut, cut,

1211
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: back against the grain, the speed, all the things that

1212
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: we could see in practice and that we saw on

1213
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: film from his Michigan State days. He's got. Now. It's

1214
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: just a matter of getting him in there. And you know,

1215
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: Penny is playing a gray too, putting his head and

1216
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: shoulder pads down and making some room when there's no room.

1217
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: So I think they make a really good one two punch,

1218
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: and I'd like to see him get the ball a

1219
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: little bit more and in space too, you know, the

1220
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: little flare path out into the flat. Get that ball

1221
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: in your hands and then let him do something outside.

1222
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: I think he's got just all kinds of ability and

1223
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: we just need to see it. You can hear him

1224
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 1: on the call this weekend along side our own Dave Wyman.

1225
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: He is the voice of the Seahawks. Steve Rabel Rabes,

1226
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: thanks so much, Thank you, guys. Appreciate it all right, guys,

1227
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: alongside me, alongside Look, he's gonna be there with Winman

1228
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: but don't worry. In between Wyman talking, you can hear

1229
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: Steve Rabel. Steve Rabel mentioned the Lions are banged up,

1230
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: and they are. They had six offensive starters miss practice yesterday.

1231
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: We'll check in on their status and find out more

1232
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: about this team with Danny Rogers. Next, this is the huddle.

1233
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: You are listening to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

1234
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross joining us. Now for an opponent preview.

1235
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: It is Danny Rogers of the Detroit Lions official website.

1236
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: She reports for them does some awesome videos. Danny, the

1237
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: first thing I have to ask is maybe the most

1238
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: boring question, but probably the most important there in Detroit.

1239
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: You guys are pretty banged up as a squad. Are

1240
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: there any starters who may miss Sunday? Hi? Yes, I

1241
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: know you guys have to get this question out of

1242
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: the way first, So let's let's get it overwinch. It

1243
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: is looking like running backs number one beyond Resist will

1244
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 1: not be playing in this game. He's been a little

1245
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: banged up for the past two weeks. He's dealing with

1246
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: an ankle and shoulder injury. Then right now and then

1247
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver number one almon Rod Saint Brown's second year

1248
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL, who has really shown up for the

1249
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions in that past game. It doesn't look like

1250
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: he will play either. Both of those guys have not

1251
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: practiced in the last two days. Dj Chart has been

1252
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: on the injury report list. He's another one of those

1253
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: big target receivers that the Lions love. He was downgraded

1254
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: to not practicing today after being limited yesterday with an ankle.

1255
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 1: But good news, good news with that fast game wide

1256
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: receiver Josh Reynolds. He is battling an ankle injury. He

1257
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: didn't practice yesterday. However, he was limited today. He was

1258
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: back at practice, So that's some good news, right, Yeah,

1259
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: great news, great news. What about talking about Jamal Williams. Yes,

1260
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Swift is not going to be in the game, but

1261
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: he's a serviceable back. What's their confidence like in Williams?

1262
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: This running backs room, Deuce Daley, he is the running

1263
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: backs run pack game coordinator. He loves Jamal Williams. You

1264
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: always when you talk about these running backs, you always say, okay,

1265
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: you have DeAndre Swift. He is swifty. However, the swaggy

1266
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: to DeAndre swift swiftness is Jamal williams us so Swaggy

1267
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: in this part. Um. They have been giving him a

1268
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: larger load this season. To start with, We're only three

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Speaker 1: games into this season. He's already had two games with

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Speaker 1: multi touchdowns with two touchdowns a piece. He had two

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Speaker 1: against Minnesota right now, so the confidence is hid him.

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Speaker 1: They know they can handle everything. Um, They're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: Craig Renolds in at running back number two this week,

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Speaker 1: who saw a good amount of time last year when

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: Swift was also injured. Then and then it's kind of

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00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: a toss up between who that are the running back

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Speaker 1: number three. Ye is that it'll be Marie Alexander or

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Speaker 1: Jamar Jefferson. But Detroit lines love Jamal. He loves them

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00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: back sixth year in this league. He knows he's doing

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Speaker 1: and he can easily adapt to that starting position. Hey, Danny,

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01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: we loved watching The Hard Knocks. That was one of

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Speaker 1: my favorites. But one of the stars Malcolm Rodriguez Rodrigo

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Speaker 1: is how's he looking? And you know it looks like

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01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: that guy kind of embodied what Dan Campbell wanted to

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Speaker 1: get done during camp, and that was be physical. I

1286
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: mean that guy was just everywhere hitting people, kind of

1287
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Speaker 1: an effect as he had as a as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that this staff really wanted to

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01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: keep Malcolm Rodriguez AK Rodrigo under wraps, but the Hard

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01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: Knocks crew pushed to make sure that he was in

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Speaker 1: those episodes in Hello World. Here's Rodrigo six around pick

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Speaker 1: out at Oklahoma State who has an awesome story with

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01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: what he was able to do in college and then

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01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: now in the NFL you see him hit tossing veterans

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01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: like Jason Kelsey. So he brings a lot of physicality

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Speaker 1: to the game. That is no brainer. It's just the

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Speaker 1: llow that he's doing it with as a rookie is

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01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: really the impressive week ones. He had no missed assignments,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of insane in the NFL for any player,

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: for any veteran. So to have a rookie come in

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01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: there not missed an assignment, not make mental errors, and

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01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: be able to affect the quarterback on a lot of

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01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: plays and effects to be around the ball was huge.

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: So Rodrigoe is fitting in very well into that starting

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01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: linebacker position. Very high expectations. But this defense they even

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: elevate themselves bottom towards the bottom of the league in

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: a lot of categories. Rodrigo has got to be a

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01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: catalyst for them. You've got another rookie defensive and Aidan Hutchinson.

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01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: He came out and had had three sacks already this

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01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: season in one game. So they definitely rely on those

1311
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: two rookies, which which is a lot very young defense,

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: but to take a lot of this load. So the

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Speaker 1: people love Rodrigo, The staff loves Rodrigoe as well. Danny.

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01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: We're plenty familiar with Jared Goff, having seen him here

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Speaker 1: for the l A Rams in the NFC West. This

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01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: might be a second time we've seen golf with the Lions.

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01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: But that being said, do you feel that with Detroit

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01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: Jared Goff has found a new level of play or

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01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: found a home or kind of found a rhythm or

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01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, is he not really the center of the offense?

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01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: Second time that yet you guys are seeing him with

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Speaker 1: the Lions facing the Seahawks, uh faced, you guys are

1323
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: very ringy battle last year, I was thinking about this

1324
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: exact question. I think yesterday. I interned with a Ram

1325
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: back in what twenty seventeen when golf was in a

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Speaker 1: second year, So I've been following along pretty closely for

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: the last six six years or so. It's like he

1328
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: was coming into the league obviously drafted number one overall

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01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: and then and then built up to that caliber being

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl quarterback where he was able to have

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01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: explosive plays downfield, navigating offense, be really functional, and of

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01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: course you're gonna take a hit on the team had

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Speaker 1: drafted you is now trading you away. He trading is

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: very far from Los Angeles. So last year you saw

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01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: him to come into it a completely new system. All

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: the coaches were in a new system as well. They

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01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: really did care a part of this roster and build

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01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: it back up. So you saw Jared Golf get assimated

1339
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: last year. To me, looks completely different this year, but

1340
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: it looks similar to when he was having the best

1341
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: career in LA, when he was able to make those

1342
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: explosive plays sounds field, when he was being really confident

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Speaker 1: with an offense. I mean, Detroit is up there, you know,

1344
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: the top and a lot of offensive categories. You gotta

1345
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: give a lot of credit to the offensive line that

1346
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: is a little banged up but not scamina beat. You

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01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: also have to give a lot of credit to Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff who I do think looks a lot more comfortable.

1349
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: Whim tell you is he's more comfortable in this scheme.

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01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: In your two they tweaked it to be more familiar

1351
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: and just better suit golf. So to me, he just

1352
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: seems like a world of difference coming into year two.

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01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: Um so I do think you're seeing him on the rise,

1354
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: and I think you can't. Of course, you can attribute

1355
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: a lot of what is the sports of offense is

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01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: to Goth, who's who's not afraid to make those downfield

1357
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: passes like he used to make in LA. You know,

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01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: I think I've given him a hard time because he

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01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: went to cal and I went to Stanford, and then

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01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: he didn't know what side of the earth that the

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01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: sun came up, he said. And and I don't if

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Speaker 1: you remember from Hard Knocks, But I really like him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a good quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: what about his leadership? Is he kind of stepping into

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01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: that role a little bit more because I felt like

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Speaker 1: with Sean McVeigh there wasn't really room for it. Almost Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not totally sure what the dynamic turned out to

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01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: be in LA with Goth and McVeigh. But but Ben Johnson,

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01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: offensive cordineer here in Detroit and head coach Team Campbell

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: have made it very clear that this is Jared Go's offense,

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Speaker 1: that he has input in this offense, and they really

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Speaker 1: emphasized how player driven this teamage. So to me, Goff

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01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: is the leader of this offense, there is no question

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01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: about that, and he's a really really composed leader. Lions

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01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: have found themselves in a lot of crunch time moments

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01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: already in Minnesota where they're trying to come up with

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Speaker 1: a play at the end. They didn't end up going

1378
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: forward on fourthdown like they had six previous times in

1379
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: the game. But if you're going to go for fourth

1380
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: down six times in a game, you have to have

1381
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: a composed quarterback who is going to just level everyone

1382
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: out and quiet them down and compose them and make

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01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: them feel confident like they can go in and handle

1384
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: their assignment. And Goff does that. He has a level

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01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: of flagger to him. He's on the quiet side, very

1386
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: composed side, but there's a little level of slagger that

1387
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: this is his offense this year and he's bringing that

1388
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: out out onto the field as well. All Right, she

1389
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: is Danny Rogers. You can check out her work on

1390
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lion's official website. If you guys want to

1391
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: do some deep diving of your own into this week's opponent,

1392
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 1: Danny thinks so much. Thank you guys. All Right, you guys,

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01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: we are wrapping up the huddle with our own version

1394
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: of Danny Rogers. John Boyle if Seahawks dot com is

1395
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: going to join us, and then we're gonna share some

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Speaker 1: final thoughts ahead of this week four matchup between the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks and Lions. You are listening to the huddle with

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Michael bump Is, Stacy Ross, and now John

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Speaker 1: Boyle joining us to wrap things up for the huddle

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Speaker 1: and also share some final thoughts. So I'll just get

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01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: started with the obvious. I don't want to say elephant

1402
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: in the room. All of us have been talking about

1403
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: it all week, but it's the defense really really struggling.

1404
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: Letting at Lanta march down the field have allowed at

1405
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: least one hundred and seventy rushing yards in two consecutive weeks.

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Speaker 1: I am assuming John that you being a reporter for

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: this team, but also in all of those press conferences,

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: it has been asked NonStop, what has Pete Carroll been saying. Yeah.

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's the big topic. And the main thing

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01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll keeps bringing up is eliminating the really

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01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: bad plays. It's you know, look, team's occasionally gonna block

1412
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: up a play well and they might get six eight yards.

1413
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: You gotta stop letting guys bounce out and get these

1414
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: huge games where you know, whether it's losing their edge

1415
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: contain or something at the second level, not getting off

1416
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: the block, whatever it is. You can't be giving up

1417
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: the big, huge plays that just let teams get down

1418
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: the field quickly and easily. And we saw too much

1419
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: of that last week. Forty yards to Cordio Patterson rather carry, yeah,

1420
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: and then eighteen yards of very next play. And I

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01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: mean he had like three or four plays of you know,

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01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: eighteen plus. Yeah, you gotta clean that up. So boyle, yes,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing good? How are you doing good? Good?

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: Only I get a chance to say hi, really, I

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01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: take it from them. I'm kind. So I'm looking at

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01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: the offense and they said last week they want to

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01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: open it up right, and to me, open it up

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Speaker 1: me And it's just being as diverse as possible. See

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01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: the run game be going a little bit we shot

1430
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: at fourteen carries twenty three cars. Overall, I believe in

1431
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: the run game, tight ends get involved, DK gets the football.

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01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: Is that opening up? Is that who this team wants

1433
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: to be what we saw last week offensively, I think so,

1434
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they want to be better in the red zone.

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: That was sort of the one flaw you could fight

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01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: in that game, as they had three third and shorts.

1437
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: They didn't get done in the red zone. But otherwise, yeah,

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01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think opening it up for them

1439
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: with Gino Smith means just chucking at fifty yards down field.

1440
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't Pekl referenced this on the morning show of

1441
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: you know with Russell Wilson. That was such a strength

1442
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: of the game. You're gonna just take all those shots,

1443
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: whereas Gino's a lot better just to accurate intermediate stuff,

1444
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: and we saw a lot of that. So yeah, you know,

1445
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: that was I think pretty good script of what they

1446
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: want to be. There's things they'd like to do better.

1447
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: Obviously they want to run the ball probably a little

1448
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: more and a little better than that. But if you

1449
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: can move the ball like that and again be a

1450
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: little better in the red zone, you're gonna win a

1451
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: lot of games play now, way my memory is correct,

1452
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: I felt I think that the Ken Williams ken Walker

1453
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: fly sweep, the first fly sweep they ran this. Do

1454
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: you think I don't have to go back and look,

1455
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: they haven't run many if they have, I mean, they've

1456
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: shown it plenty, But in terms of actually handing it off,

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: I think d got one. You think so? I think, yeah,

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01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: I would just think that's a that's a kind of

1459
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: a huge part of what they what they do, and

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01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: they run a lot of off of that. But as

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: far as goes is, did you see it maybe and

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01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: if you heard from the coaches like that that was

1463
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: like maybe the run that sort of busted open for him,

1464
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: like he gets his confidence. I think so. I mean

1465
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: they want to get him more involved for sure, and

1466
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: a play like that can definitely help. But there's also

1467
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: been some rookie mistakes that he needs to clean up.

1468
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: And we've seen seen it in the last two games

1469
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: of Gino's looking one way and Walkers the other way,

1470
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: and you know, those those are just wasted plays when

1471
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: that happens. So they're gonna need to fix that. But

1472
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's you know, he's confident those will go away,

1473
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: it's just some rookie jit or slash mistakes. But yeah,

1474
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean the explosiveness is so obvious every time you

1475
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: see him, even in the San Francisco game, some plays

1476
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: that look dead where he gets five yards out of it,

1477
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: where it's not a huge game, but you really see

1478
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: his athletic ability on display. So that's where you know

1479
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Speaker 1: it's a lot of it. They want to get Penny gone,

1480
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: but also I think you want to be able to

1481
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: run the ball more so you can get both those

1482
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: guys involved. You have a couple of rookies out there,

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: and I've actually been pleasantly surprised by the play of

1484
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: your two rookie tackles and by trek Wall interview as well. Yeah,

1485
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean you can throw Kobe in there. He's been

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01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: that nickel, which is pretty much starting role the last

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Boy Mafe's role seems to be increasing

1488
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: every week. So yeah, they they love the earlier turns

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01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: on that rookie class, But the tackles in particular, I mean,

1490
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: and you can throw a cornerback with one of them.

1491
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: Those are some of the hardest non quarterback positions to

1492
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: learn in the NFL, and be ready to go, So

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: for them to be holding their own and we're not

1494
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: seeing this is not where like the whole game plan

1495
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: is about protecting the tackles. We're not seeing you know,

1496
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: tight ends every pass play staying in the block or

1497
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: running back to their time like they're winning a lot

1498
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: of one on one bottles and playing really well. So

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01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: you know, again their rookies is not going to be perfect,

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01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: but it builds really well for the future that you

1501
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: appear to have found book end tackles for a long

1502
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: time and you know, some starting caliber cornerbacks. That's that's

1503
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 1: a big deal. I gotta check in on our receivers,

1504
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: especially DK got twelve targets five receptions last week. What's

1505
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: the temperature? DK? Is he okay? Dose he You think

1506
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: he understands like, okay, this offense is going to be

1507
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: a bit different than the past few years. Yeah, I

1508
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: mean he seems to be handling things just fine. I mean, look,

1509
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 1: every receiver you would know this better than that. But

1510
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: every receiver is gonna want the ball and they're gonna

1511
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, you you feel like you're open more than

1512
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: maybe the time. Yeah, you know, a good receivers never

1513
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: not open, right, so at least in their own mind.

1514
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: So he's I mean, I think the opportunity is gonna

1515
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: keep coming to To me, it's more encouraging than the

1516
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: targets are there. I'd be more worried if if the

1517
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: numbers were down and he was only getting five or

1518
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: six targets a game. But they're trying to get him

1519
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: the ball and then those big plays will come. But yeah,

1520
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's early, and I think he's

1521
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: still gonna be a huge part of this offense. But

1522
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, the touchdown to me, plays like that or

1523
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: what they need is where it's just he's not necessarily

1524
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 1: wide Openmo. It's like, we're gonna trust you that you're

1525
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: bigger and you're better and stronger and can out leap

1526
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: that guy, so go make a play and that those

1527
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: are those are what he's good at. We're talking to

1528
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: Josh Jones about how good the defensive coaches are, you know,

1529
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: Carl Scott, Sean Decide, you know we're talking about and

1530
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: of course Clinton hurt, but how sometimes you'll see guys

1531
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: sort of jogging around or they're they're not going full speed,

1532
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: And to me, it's always because you're thinking too much,

1533
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: you know, And do you think is that maybe kind

1534
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: of what you've heard a little bit of they're gonna

1535
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: try to simplify things defensively because some of the mistakes

1536
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: that they've made have been very basic. Yeah, which is

1537
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: good news in one regard, but kind of annoying. Yeah,

1538
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: it's you don't want to see it, but maybe it's

1539
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: easier to fix king. Yeah, I think there's Yeah, I mean,

1540
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: there's enough newness, both in terms of scheme and also

1541
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: in personnel that, look, you don't want to go through

1542
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: these growing pains. You would love for it to just

1543
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: be boom week one. You're flying. But I think maybe

1544
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, you're never gonna admit this in August. But

1545
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: if you could have caught, you know, some true serum

1546
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: and caught those guys an awesome moment, I think they

1547
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 1: probably would have told you, like, look, it's not gonna

1548
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: look as good in September? Is it will in November

1549
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: when you're introducing a pretty new defense. And as you said,

1550
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: all these new coaches who are you by all accounts,

1551
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: great coaches, brilliant minds, but some new ideas in different

1552
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: ways of communicating, and then you throw in that you're

1553
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: starting a bunch of new guys as well. It's just

1554
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: taken a little bit more time than they hoped. But

1555
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: I do think that gives you hope that it's going

1556
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: to look a lot better down the road, all right.

1557
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: Rather than continuing to throw questions, I wanted us all

1558
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: to share some final thoughts, share some opinion as a

1559
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: look ahead to this game. I kind of like changing

1560
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: this up every week. Okay, it's been fun. Last week

1561
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: I had us do one thing we learned and one

1562
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: thing we're looking forward to. Uh so, uh, since last

1563
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: week was a loss and it was tough. Silver lining

1564
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: from last week, and uh, maybe maybe a fun challenge

1565
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: that the Lions will pose silver lining? Yeah, who wants

1566
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: to go first? Really confused? Right now? I will go first.

1567
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 1: I will go an example. Okay, silver lining from last week.

1568
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: I thought was was Gino's day and he I thought

1569
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: he was efficient. Uh still completed over seventy percent of

1570
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: his passes, and he has been a pleasant surprise for

1571
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: me this year. A challenge against the Lions is gonna

1572
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: be stopping the run even without Downdrey Swift. Yep. I

1573
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: want to put out there that I predicted Gino with

1574
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: toss for seventy two. Yeah, it was really like a

1575
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: weirdly accurate. You know, our buddy John Clayton used to

1576
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, he said, yeah, he's gonna run for

1577
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: one hund and then he would exactly as John speaking

1578
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: through me. Um silver lining would be that the tight

1579
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: ends are back. I think against the forty nine ers

1580
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: only had four targets. I believe with Latin last week's

1581
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: game they had at least eight to nine targets. Um,

1582
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: something they need to worry about. It's just containment. The

1583
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: Bears are good, get on the edge running the football.

1584
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: Just contain, Contain, contain. I'll go on the offensive side.

1585
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: The silver lining is that Rachad Penny, the way he's

1586
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: finishing runs at you know, putting his head down and

1587
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: bowling people over and just I feel like he's become

1588
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 1: a football player. And and then you know, the challenge

1589
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: would be that this is a physical team in Detroit.

1590
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: Take it to him, man, if you can, if you

1591
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: can run the ball on them, I don't I'm not

1592
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: gonna put it on the defenses because they need to

1593
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: repair things. But if you can, you know, take a

1594
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: sustained drive, go down the field, and you know, ten

1595
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: play drive and you just beat the crap out of them.

1596
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: I think that that would be that would be my

1597
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: challenge to the Seahawk offense. Sounds awesome, the last going

1598
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: last is toughest, but you also got the final word done. Yeah,

1599
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, silver lining wise, I'm just gonna go with

1600
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: how the offense stayed on the field, the third down conversions.

1601
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: I think they ran what sixty nine total plays after

1602
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: being under fifty the first two weeks, because ultimately that's

1603
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: going to help your defense a lot too. You can't

1604
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: ask the we saw it all that year. You can't

1605
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: ask a defense to play seventy all season long. That's

1606
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: just not good for him. So that, you know, keep

1607
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: that up and you're gonna just be a lot better

1608
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. You know. The challenge

1609
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: to me it's getting that offense. We've seen now two

1610
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: the three games where the offense was really good for

1611
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: half and then they couldn't really keep that momentum going.

1612
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: This Detroit team, you know, they're not a perfect team.

1613
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: They have their flaws, but they score a lot of points.

1614
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: And I don't think you can win a game where

1615
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: you have a good half offense and then get quiet, think,

1616
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: I think you need four quarters of it. That's a

1617
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: really good one. I didn't even think about that. It's

1618
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: like improvement to that challenge. How about a touchdown in

1619
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: the second half, right for a touchdown in the third

1620
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: and fourth quarters. Yeah, I mean the first half was

1621
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: awesome that, you know, twenty points bouncing back from San

1622
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: Francisco game. Loved all that, but yeah, you gotta you're

1623
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: gonna need to score some points half. I'll give you

1624
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: the final word there. This has been the huddle. Thank

1625
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,919
Speaker 1: you John for joining us, for Dave Wyman, for Michael Bumpus.

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01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: I am Stacy ross the huddle. Don't forget to tune

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Speaker 1: in next Thursday, Every single Thursday from noon to two