Speaker 1: Coming up on the Get Loud podcast, we got a
Speaker 1: minicatains talking about undrafted free.
Speaker 2: Agent how did they make it?
Speaker 1: And you canna talk a little smack baby what not?
Speaker 2: It was hard on me.
Speaker 1: Hey do guys it doesn't get out podcast with Smoot
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Speaker 2: What's up, brother? How you feeling my man? I'm feeling well.
Speaker 2: How's your weekend? Happy? Postmother's Day? Postmother's Day? Listen, this
Speaker 2: is the day that we give thanks to the women
Speaker 2: that influence us him in life. Man, Yet the end
Speaker 2: of the day is one of those days where it's subtle.
Speaker 2: All restaurants are pet yep, you gotta get it in.
Speaker 2: So I just want to know, Jas do you do that?
Speaker 2: Are you biased mother to father? Yes, you cannot do that. Man.
Speaker 1: I am to do something about mom. I don't know
Speaker 1: because I'm kming Mama's boy. Like I love my mom.
Speaker 1: I mean I love my dad too, But I think
Speaker 1: it depends also on the closeness of your relationship with
Speaker 1: each I think.
Speaker 2: Dad smells like hear and cigaret it's and moms smell
Speaker 2: like muffins. And cake muffins, you know what I like.
Speaker 2: So I think people love us differently, like as a
Speaker 2: father myself, my kids call me, all right, we got
Speaker 2: to get Mama a gift the Mother's Day. Yeah, like, no,
Speaker 2: you have to get a gift for Mother's Day. I
Speaker 2: don't have to give it. No more gifts, right, you
Speaker 2: have to get it for it. So now it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's go shopping for mother. And I was like with them,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what do you want to get them?
Speaker 2: They know exactly what they want to get her. So
Speaker 2: I like, do y'all do this for me because the
Speaker 2: gifts y'all give me are not the same. Oh.
Speaker 1: I pulled a good with my mom this weekend, all
Speaker 1: right because we were talking and she goes, hey, I
Speaker 1: need your advice on something. I said, okay, mom, and
Speaker 1: she goes, we're thinking about moving. They live in Texas,
Speaker 1: and she was thinking about moving closer to the airport
Speaker 1: because I want to come down and visit for different reasons.
Speaker 1: And she goes, just think about it, and I want
Speaker 1: your advice, like the pros and cons. And I thought
Speaker 1: about it, like, if you want to move, just move.
Speaker 1: When I was talking about on the phone. I go, hey,
Speaker 1: I thought about it. At your new place. You just
Speaker 1: gotta have a pool. That's when I can come visit it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're definitely having a pool.
Speaker 2: I was like, you should move, Yeah, you should move.
Speaker 2: So she's gonna move. I got the pool recommendation in
Speaker 2: Good to Go. So it's more of a I guess,
Speaker 2: a verbal intimacy with the mom than it is the dad.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the difference I need to notice, Jane.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm a lot closer with my mom than I am
Speaker 1: with my dad. I think it's gonna be fifty ideally,
Speaker 1: but family sometimes don't work. The dynamic goals how it
Speaker 1: goes right, Like I know some people that's way closer,
Speaker 1: like this is what I learned.
Speaker 2: My daughter's, my daddy's, my son's they are with the mother,
Speaker 2: they are like and I think it's that's the dynamic
Speaker 2: because I what I know is this, your daughters bring
Speaker 2: you family. Like my thanksgivings in the future will be
Speaker 2: full of my daughters and whoever they dating. Okay, my
Speaker 2: sons will be with their girls family. That's the that's
Speaker 2: the way it goes, Like you become part of their family.
Speaker 2: And the daughters bring you family. So that's the difference.
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna be with me most of the time,
Speaker 2: should you get me the best gills? Like I'm you
Speaker 2: need to think long term. I'm telling getting me the
Speaker 2: best gifts. But regardless, Happy Mother's Days to all the
Speaker 2: mothers out there, and thank you for everything you do
Speaker 2: that don't believe me, it goes noticed, all right, We
Speaker 2: notice everything you do. Thank you for everything you did,
Speaker 2: no question.
Speaker 1: We also noticed some rookies.
Speaker 2: I did. You were there?
Speaker 1: I did, And the media presence was massive week. I
Speaker 1: seen this much media and a long.
Speaker 2: Time, I haven't seen this much media since they introduced
Speaker 2: Fred Smooth as a Washington footballer. Like since you like
Speaker 2: it was. It was packed with media and I gotta
Speaker 2: get this to coach Coach Quinn. The energy just from
Speaker 2: the rookies. They understood the mission, full of energy, quickness.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the teaching, even the coach which is an
Speaker 2: animated like the one thing when I played. I love
Speaker 2: high energy coaches. Okay, they push you, they demanded, but
Speaker 2: they have this this energy transfer yeah that I love.
Speaker 2: And what I saw out there was energy like we're
Speaker 2: not transferring you just knowledge, were transferring you energy and
Speaker 2: let you know, when you get in between these white wine,
Speaker 2: this green grass and white line, you need to be moving.
Speaker 2: Like we're not out here to a jog. We're not
Speaker 2: out here to walk. We out here to run. And
Speaker 2: it's a big difference out there. And I enjoyed that energy.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed everything about it. It made me feel like
Speaker 2: I had three plays left. Jinks, it really did it.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Sattanna and talking like, man, like,
Speaker 2: this is the type environment that bring out the best
Speaker 2: in people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, that's the type environment you want. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about this more. I want to ask you
Speaker 1: quickly though, Yeah, do you have three plays left in you?
Speaker 2: I got three plays left, like.
Speaker 1: If you were just out there three plays Like I
Speaker 1: got a few if.
Speaker 2: They gave me like three months to get in shape. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I be abbed up. I have abs all over my
Speaker 2: back mid neck. I could. I could give three plays
Speaker 2: because I still have the mental to do it. The physical.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be trying to survive physically. I survived mentally,
Speaker 2: like I use my mental mental to beat the youngster.
Speaker 2: Like your knowledge of the game, the knowledge of the game,
Speaker 2: So I would do down a distance, I would understand
Speaker 2: how they trying to attack me. We got an old
Speaker 2: man out there in the right corner. They coming at
Speaker 2: me right, so I need to understand that. So I
Speaker 2: think I would have three plays, and I perfectly I would.
Speaker 2: They was in the red zone. That mean I ain't
Speaker 2: got to run much like everything happens now th right,
Speaker 2: like everything happens now in the red zone. But these
Speaker 2: guys today, they are bigger, stronger, and faster than us.
Speaker 2: We might have been more physical than them, but we
Speaker 2: all evolve. The human geno evolves, and not running with
Speaker 2: these useful guys can't do it well.
Speaker 1: You were telling me about Jadon Daniels, and the first
Speaker 1: thing you said when we were just talking off camera
Speaker 1: before we started was this ball, This football jumps out
Speaker 1: of his hand.
Speaker 2: Hollishly like listen to me, tight release, precision, effortless. Like.
Speaker 2: The one thing about quarterbacks that we do as cornerbacks
Speaker 2: when we study you is does it take you a
Speaker 2: lot to get the ball out your hands. I play
Speaker 2: with Danny Wafo, and I love Danny waffer House.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: The ball he scr he scruggled to get the ball
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 1: Here is the perfect college corn, yes, but throwing in
Speaker 1: the pros, he just could not.
Speaker 2: Like he would muscle the ball and we'll just pick
Speaker 2: it off and then I just turn it up and
Speaker 2: drink it like a beer headed to the end zone.
Speaker 2: Like cause it ain't that you ain't ain't make the
Speaker 2: right throw it the right decision. You don't have the
Speaker 2: power in your arm to get it there. Jane Dames,
Speaker 2: that ball was leaving his hand and his deep ball
Speaker 2: is a beautiful ball so much it made me want
Speaker 2: to cry. I mean, he was like that in college beautiful,
Speaker 2: but I want to see it around some pros. I
Speaker 2: want to see it for myself. And I watched him.
Speaker 2: I went to the Mississippi LSU game last year and
Speaker 2: he right. I almost left at halftime. Scho was like
Speaker 2: thirty five zero. He was pushing the ball down the
Speaker 2: field with e leak neighbors. I just thought we was
Speaker 2: outclass and not athletic. But what I saw from him
Speaker 2: throwing that ball, I felt good about it. Like it
Speaker 2: was like it's an energy, it's it's some with his ball,
Speaker 2: Like it's a smooth ball, smooth delivery, so it won't
Speaker 2: be on screens. It's how fast. Can he learn the game?
Speaker 1: One thing you heard from the players, and I know
Speaker 1: we have a small sample size. Yeah, but the guys
Speaker 1: around him said, Man, he has an energy about him.
Speaker 1: You just want to be around him. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've been around players like that before. I think you're
Speaker 1: probably one of those players people just kind of want
Speaker 1: to be in your present.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, like energy attracts, a static electricity, everything attracts,
Speaker 2: and if you got good energy, players are gonna be
Speaker 2: naturally attracted to you. And what he got that most
Speaker 2: people don't have. They got taken number two in the draft.
Speaker 2: This do humble like it ain't nothing like he an
Speaker 2: athlete that then got all these trophies on the wall
Speaker 2: that still look at itself as just a dude. Like
Speaker 2: when when you just a dude and you just want
Speaker 2: of the dudes the guys are, especially when you have
Speaker 2: the ability if you want it to be snooty, you
Speaker 2: could like if you want to be quarterbacks, he could. No,
Speaker 2: He's like, man, I'm want of y'all. Man, whatever we
Speaker 2: gotta do to get better, whatever we gotta do, take
Speaker 2: it to the next level. I ain't no finished prospect.
Speaker 2: You ain't no finished prospect. Let's grow together. How could
Speaker 2: you not admire that? Jenks I let you not admire it?
Speaker 2: From your number two pick? They say, Man, ain't there?
Speaker 2: Like dude, we just getting started. Let's get this thing movie. Man.
Speaker 2: That's what you want for your quarterback. You want your
Speaker 2: quarterback to be a good person, period. You want offifty
Speaker 2: three guys to be good people. But we actually need
Speaker 2: in them fifty three. We need a couple of guys
Speaker 2: that ain't good people because you need a mixture, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You need a mixture. But if
Speaker 2: your quarterback is one of those guys that value people,
Speaker 2: bring people in, you'll see that hudder protect him. If
Speaker 2: you ever want to know if your quarterback is a
Speaker 2: good person, watch him get sacked. That's right, all right,
Speaker 2: he do his offensive line and pick him up. He
Speaker 2: dow his offensive line and want to fight the defensive line.
Speaker 2: That'll tell you everything I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: Or if your quarterback takes a head close to going
Speaker 1: out of bounds, yeah, and you see those old line
Speaker 1: going over there, and now.
Speaker 2: We start fighting. Don't touch, don't touch, I got don't
Speaker 2: don't you do that? And then go You earned it.
Speaker 2: You're not giving it, like you're not giving it. You
Speaker 2: didn't see guys picking gentleman's head up. That's right, he's
Speaker 2: always in Vegas. Yeah, I'm just saying you saw guys
Speaker 2: pick him up in Vegas off the script. But what
Speaker 2: I'm saying he did not see his guys rally around
Speaker 2: him because it was more me than us, and Jayden
Speaker 2: seems to be an US guy and loans he's an
Speaker 2: US guy. He's gonna be a guy that could lead
Speaker 2: to see did you have a rookiemendic cap? Oh? Yes,
Speaker 2: I did? How to go? I held out. I knew
Speaker 2: I was supposed to go in the first round. I
Speaker 2: end up going with four picks into the second round.
Speaker 2: And when it was time togotiate out, like hey, you
Speaker 2: got to pay me like a first round, it was
Speaker 2: like you win in the second, Like, but I'm a
Speaker 2: first round. I'm not coming, and they were like you're lion.
Speaker 2: Monday went past Tuesday with passed, no fred smooth. Then
Speaker 2: they paid me. Okay, I'm a negotiator. I came and
Speaker 2: I'll never forget one shot. Shattenhamen was my coach rookie year.
Speaker 2: He worked us so hard in Carlisle Pennsylvania that I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if I'm gonna make it
Speaker 2: in the league. Like I'm dead hard when I say
Speaker 2: we were doing two and three of days at the time.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and this is full pad in the
Speaker 2: middle of Pennsylvania with the heat on hundred degrees. I
Speaker 2: remember my first day. They're like, oh, we got our rookie. Here,
Speaker 2: he finally here. We know he can cover. Can he tackle?
Speaker 2: They were like, let's do goal line. I like, at
Speaker 2: the beginning, at the beginning of practice, I never forget it.
Speaker 2: Dunelle Benning at full back, Steven Davis at tilback. Coach said,
Speaker 2: we're finnah do goal line. Put Fred Smooth middle linebacker.
Speaker 2: I like, I'm a I'm a corner back here, Like,
Speaker 2: we know you can cover. We gonna see can you
Speaker 2: get it? Mix it up? They ran power Bibo at
Speaker 2: me three four time. I remember before the first play,
Speaker 2: Bruce Smith turns around to me. He was like, listen here,
Speaker 2: rook don't you wait on them. You go die in
Speaker 2: that hole. You go meet them, do you you don't
Speaker 2: wait on them.
Speaker 1: Don't let Stephen Davis get ahead of stink.
Speaker 2: Don't let none of them get ahead of stink, and
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I got you. I ran
Speaker 2: in there time at the time time, and they would
Speaker 2: toss me out the club. It didn't matter. I kept
Speaker 2: running in there, and that's all they wanted to see.
Speaker 2: They didn't care if I made the tackle. They wanted
Speaker 2: to see, was I willing to give it up inside
Speaker 2: that inside that drill? And I was fine with it
Speaker 2: and I liked it, and I got him laughing. I
Speaker 2: think they kind of potted there and they're like, what
Speaker 2: is this dude doing. I was willing to do what
Speaker 2: needs to be done, no matter what's ext of me.
Speaker 2: And that the whole thing and about rookies. When you
Speaker 2: get here, they're going to test you mentally, physically, everything
Speaker 2: about the game will be tested. Like you think you
Speaker 2: were so good because we all think about it. We
Speaker 2: was the cream of the crop on our college campus.
Speaker 2: They held us up, told us around campus like like
Speaker 2: they just you are the dude. And then when you
Speaker 2: get a must these other dudes, these dudes, dudes, these
Speaker 2: yellow jackets, You're like, man, I got so much to
Speaker 2: learn and so far to go, And what you really
Speaker 2: want to do is you want to see do you
Speaker 2: belong with them like that's the whole key, Like you're
Speaker 2: gonna make that one play at practice. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it comes to first day, second or the third,
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be one play that you make that
Speaker 2: you say, you know what I do belong with them,
Speaker 2: and this the play you ain't known as a rookie.
Speaker 2: You can't get that at Rooky Camp. Yep, you had
Speaker 2: to get that with the veterans. So it's all about
Speaker 2: that one play. When do you make that play that
Speaker 2: says all right, I'm a pro and.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be coming, I believe command. There'snna be live
Speaker 1: streaming on Tuesdays. Yeah, you can watch the vets and
Speaker 1: the rookies go.
Speaker 2: At it one. Yeah. I was just off the top
Speaker 2: of my head. Thank you, Anna. I'm not here. You
Speaker 2: are from Texas. I hold nothing against you. Like Texas guys.
Speaker 2: I know how y'all get down because Texas trying to
Speaker 2: act like it's his own country. You know what I
Speaker 2: should have said, I reckon, it'll be around. I reckon
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be over yonder.
Speaker 2: Most people don't know what yonder is. Like, we got
Speaker 2: our own lingo in the South. Yes, when we get
Speaker 2: Like when I first got here, and this is no lie,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I was talking to being standing,
Speaker 2: I was talking to just you know, you know, the
Speaker 2: old media. They still and they showed me an interview
Speaker 2: that I did as a rookie. Okay, I couldn't understand myself.
Speaker 2: Jinks just how bad it was. I was too country
Speaker 2: at the time. I don't know what they asked me about,
Speaker 2: but I just started yabbering. Est I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: I don't understand myself. Like I now understand what they mean, like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got that country dial out now. But when I
Speaker 2: go home in Mississippi now, they like, look at free
Speaker 2: finishing words, what you're a scholar. You're a scholar now,
Speaker 2: like so to them, when I go back South, I
Speaker 2: sound northern, yeah, but up here I sound country. So
Speaker 2: really I don't fit in nowhere.
Speaker 1: When I first went to school of Texas because I'm
Speaker 1: from the sticks, yea, and fellow Texans used to make
Speaker 1: fun of me. They'd be like, where are you from.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm from Breckinerage, Texas. Where about you guys?
Speaker 1: And they'd be like this guy. So I knew, I
Speaker 1: knew I had to kill some of it. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I knew, since I wanted to do TV and radio,
Speaker 1: that I had to work on it. So I actively
Speaker 1: worked on my accent for a long time, so because
Speaker 1: I couldn't go on there and be like, well, that's
Speaker 1: another big game for the Washington Commanders this weekend. So
Speaker 1: I worked on it and I would practice it because
Speaker 1: I knew how I should sound. So I went home
Speaker 1: for the first time, dear Christmas break, been working up
Speaker 1: for a long time, and my mom opens the door,
Speaker 1: gives me a hug.
Speaker 2: Here's my voice. She's a country girl.
Speaker 1: Tears, She goes, are you shamed of us? I'm like, mom, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you shame to be.
Speaker 2: A j You don't want to be a member of
Speaker 2: the Jenkins family.
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, Mom.
Speaker 2: Yes, guess what? Like I remember, like when doing National broadcast,
Speaker 2: they gave me some paper. Okay, on this paper, they
Speaker 2: had these words that I had to repeat over and over.
Speaker 2: They wanted enunciate it. Yes, so and I'm working. I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna say the three letter system. I was working
Speaker 2: there in New York at the time, but they gave
Speaker 2: it to me, and then they gave me alternative words
Speaker 2: on here, and they wanted me to pronunciate them, pronunciate them,
Speaker 2: pronounciate them, keep doing it until it leaves your dialogue.
Speaker 2: So they're training me at the time, and they were like, well,
Speaker 2: we noticed you stay away from words they stole with
Speaker 2: his teeth, Like yes, instead of saying streaked, I say
Speaker 2: the road, the boulevard, anything. Yeah, I stay away from
Speaker 2: the it's t words because Mississippi don't allow you to
Speaker 2: say them correctly. So I knew there was a weakness
Speaker 2: in my dialogue, so I would I would instead of
Speaker 2: trying to learn how to say them correctly, I would
Speaker 2: find alternative words to stay away from them.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about that too, Like I get
Speaker 1: that to a point, but also part of you being
Speaker 1: who you are and your authenticity, which is like that's
Speaker 1: smooth though he's from Mississippi.
Speaker 2: So I get it to a point.
Speaker 1: But then you don't want that to become a thing
Speaker 1: where it takes away from who you are.
Speaker 2: You don't. But you're also aware of your strengts. It's
Speaker 2: teeth and your weakness. That's true. That's true, So you
Speaker 2: have to be It's a balance. Yeah, it's a balance.
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Speaker 2: Waste more response. I think undrafted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, agious, there were some sm or there were some
Speaker 1: players on Friday at rookie mini camp, yeah who were
Speaker 1: showing out.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh Marcus.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure to get his name right.
Speaker 1: He had an incredible one.
Speaker 2: Headed But guess what the one thing I want to
Speaker 2: say about him sank. Just call him Sank.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: He had two drops in his whole college career. Is
Speaker 2: that right? His hands are huge his last two years
Speaker 2: of college. He ain't drop a ball right. The ball
Speaker 2: he caught from James Dails, it touched two fingers. He
Speaker 2: brought it in right. So he's one of those guys
Speaker 2: that I probably don't got the fastest forty probably not
Speaker 2: the biggest guy in the world. But him having that
Speaker 2: one ability like I don't drop balls right, that's enough
Speaker 2: for a coach and say, you know what, I'm finna
Speaker 2: keep him around if you if you.
Speaker 1: Are a guy, yeah, always if the football is around,
Speaker 1: you're pulling it in.
Speaker 2: You gotta play. You got a place in this league.
Speaker 2: Like this league is not it's full of perfect for males.
Speaker 2: It's full of like guys that understand that I have
Speaker 2: scrints and I have weakness I'm gonna make sure my
Speaker 2: strints never go to weaknesses, and I can, I can,
Speaker 2: I can get better at the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 2: He made a couple of catches. Yank Off ran well. Uh,
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of guys that be not like
Speaker 2: he ran around. Uh. It was a lot of guys, man,
Speaker 2: I see what they're trying to do. And this is
Speaker 2: the dash, thely diabolical part of the NFL. You can't
Speaker 2: keep everybody like. You cannot keep everybody.
Speaker 1: And you end up letting go of some really good players.
Speaker 2: That's what good teams do. Good teams cut good players
Speaker 2: like that's what they do. So it's as much as
Speaker 2: I was like hype for these guys, it was a
Speaker 2: part of me because even when I played, I made
Speaker 2: friends with putting much everybody in the locker room. It
Speaker 2: ain't no teammate I've ever had that I didn't know
Speaker 2: them first last name, basis. I knew the history, I
Speaker 2: knew everything about them. The bad part is some sticking,
Speaker 2: some don't. That's the reality of football. But seeing these
Speaker 2: guys go out here and they all their dreams are
Speaker 2: still alive jinx. Yeah, everybody that's out there with a
Speaker 2: jersey name on the back of it or not. The
Speaker 2: dream is still alive, but the reality of it, the
Speaker 2: dream is going to die. For a lot of players.
Speaker 1: Who is someone undrafted free agent? Yeah, or he actually
Speaker 1: could be someone who was drafted, but you played with
Speaker 1: them and they were cut. But you knew all this
Speaker 1: guy needs is another chance and he's going to be
Speaker 1: a success.
Speaker 2: And he was first of all the day we made it.
Speaker 2: Here is rookies for like rookie camp and Tonio Pierce. Oh,
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierson had this look in his eye like every shot,
Speaker 2: y'all give me somebody finna feel me. He came in
Speaker 2: here gangster. When I say hell, I was like, is
Speaker 2: he not drafted? Like he was a bad boy. It
Speaker 2: was like, just when y'all give me a chance, the
Speaker 2: dude behind me, I'll never play again. Barrel the linebacker
Speaker 2: got hurt. Antonio start to get reps, reps, reps, never
Speaker 2: messing up, being the leader. He knows where the b at.
Speaker 2: He gonna get there violently, he gonna keep doing. I
Speaker 2: was like, I was like, if somebody get hurt, this
Speaker 2: dude ain't giving him their job at And eventually somebody
Speaker 2: got hurt. He never gave him their job at He
Speaker 2: went on to win the Super Bowl with Michael skraight
Speaker 2: hand in the New York Giants. Now he's the head
Speaker 2: coach of the Raiders. It permeates from him. First of all,
Speaker 2: he's a leader. First of all, he understands football to
Speaker 2: the t. He mastered football because everybody think football is
Speaker 2: so physical. This is a chess match, not checkers. He
Speaker 2: understood that very very quick into our career. He understood
Speaker 2: that part of the game, and I thought that would
Speaker 2: made him special. And the fact that he understood no
Speaker 2: wasting movement. Wasted movements in football get you beat. He
Speaker 2: never wasted movements. He'd have gone forward. He's staying with
Speaker 2: He's never going backwards. And I always I always looked
Speaker 2: at my linebackers to see who was going backwards instead
Speaker 2: of full Well.
Speaker 1: Man, that's a great story.
Speaker 2: And I believe you.
Speaker 1: I mean when he was at his problem with the basket, no.
Speaker 2: No, just there just prison feet on the ground, like
Speaker 2: when you hear coaches say feet on the ground. I
Speaker 2: want you to be I want you to enjoy the now,
Speaker 2: don't worry about what happened in the past, and don't
Speaker 2: worry about the future. You can't control either. But you
Speaker 2: can't control is nothing now. And that's what he was about.
Speaker 1: We were also talking about undrafted free agents and there's
Speaker 1: a litany of undrafted free agents over time. Yeah, some
Speaker 1: of the best too have ever played this game. Actually,
Speaker 1: but those who are playing now. One guy is running
Speaker 1: this team, which is Austin Eckler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those guys that persevere. And I
Speaker 2: think when you look at the new commander's pedigree, Austin
Speaker 2: Nikola is appiting me of it. He is a guy
Speaker 2: that had to earn everything. Look at our draft these
Speaker 2: we got to a guy that was walker Ons. All
Speaker 2: these guys ended up captains. We got guys they hold
Speaker 2: these people accountable. We got guys that was given nothing
Speaker 2: like giving nothing. You you didn't come to college a
Speaker 2: five star. You didn't come in here a four star.
Speaker 2: You came here as a one star, and you left
Speaker 2: a five star. That's what you want. We see this
Speaker 2: all the time in football. I talk about chopping up
Speaker 2: with Shutt Springs all time. Most five stars that make
Speaker 2: it to college don't make it to the pros. That's right,
Speaker 2: they don't because when they get there, they already think
Speaker 2: they made it, meaning they get no better. They get there,
Speaker 2: they stay the same, and then they think they should
Speaker 2: go to the lead. No, I take the two star
Speaker 2: to get there and turns itself into a five star
Speaker 2: because they're telling me ain no role too hard for him.
Speaker 2: All right, So, yes, Austin Ekeler Lulu didn't get drafted.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Listen, they got a vision of what they want, and
Speaker 2: they don't want anybody that's been handed anything. They want
Speaker 2: people that earn all they keep, that understand to be
Speaker 2: a commander, you need to have this pedigree. Look at
Speaker 2: the draft, like I enjoyed the draft for one reason.
Speaker 2: They didn't go out here and say, you know what,
Speaker 2: these five players are in Mail Kuiper's top one hundred,
Speaker 2: we're going to draft. No, they said, no, forget Mail
Speaker 2: and his bad hair. What we're gonna do is we're
Speaker 2: gonna draft guys that have a commander's pedigree. We want
Speaker 2: guys that earned everything they got, and that's the type
Speaker 2: guys we got and undrafted free agency are giving nothing.
Speaker 2: That's why I think about Pittsburgh in the Packers think
Speaker 2: about how they draft. They draft tons of small school guys, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they do it for a reason because small school
Speaker 2: guys didn't get the accolades of the guy that went
Speaker 2: to Florida State and played in the National Championship Tennessee Alabama.
Speaker 2: This guy's still hungry to be known. This guy's still
Speaker 2: hungry to make his mark. This guy, he didn't get
Speaker 2: all of the fanfare. They want this chip. They want
Speaker 2: that small school chip. And that's why they do that
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. That's why they do that in the path
Speaker 2: because and that's why these teams are not very active
Speaker 2: in free agency. Yeah, they want they guys homegrown, home cook.
Speaker 2: What meal is better? You're country boy, home cook, the
Speaker 2: mic away TV deal home cook, home cook, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But we're in a microwave society. People want
Speaker 2: it now, they want it now. Be patient, Be patient.
Speaker 1: Did you do you hear the story that Sean Payton
Speaker 1: went into the quarterbacks room for the Broncos bo Nicks
Speaker 1: with there and they have an undrafted free agent from
Speaker 1: the Colorado School of Mines.
Speaker 2: And I guess when you call up stop, did you
Speaker 2: say the school.
Speaker 1: Of what minds like this? Not mine?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I was like, you can give us a coal
Speaker 1: mine like a mine.
Speaker 2: No, when you said, I like, they do not have
Speaker 2: a dude as a mine. I think they're called the
Speaker 2: or Diggers.
Speaker 1: This school and this quarterback, undrafted free agent, I forget
Speaker 1: his name, Luthor, he had like because you know, the
Speaker 1: smaller schools they rack up ridiculous numbers. And he had
Speaker 1: like one hundred and sixty passing touchdowns and thirty rushing
Speaker 1: touchdowns in coags, like one hundred and ninety total. So
Speaker 1: he walks to the quarterbacks room. O Nix is there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Sean Payte walks in and goes, I want to
Speaker 1: talk to the guy witht a on hundred ninety touchdowns
Speaker 1: in college, just to mess with Bonnecks, just to let
Speaker 1: him know, like, hey, everybody here has done something.
Speaker 2: Everybody's equal here now, Yes, that's what he's trying to do.
Speaker 2: I think he knows how to play Jedi mind tricks.
Speaker 2: I believe that he's very good at playing Jedi mind tricks.
Speaker 2: And the quarterback room is his room, this room that
Speaker 2: he feels like, all right, this room I could yield
Speaker 2: the most power in. And I always think it's good
Speaker 2: when you do draft somebody. How you got somebody to
Speaker 2: kirk Cousins them. And when I say kirk Cousins, them
Speaker 2: to yo, Bobby three sticks Higo. This kirk Cousins meaning
Speaker 2: I drafted you. But this person right here he hungry
Speaker 2: and then you hungry dogs. He's got talented and he
Speaker 2: got talent too. So somebody to keep your feet on
Speaker 2: the ground. And I think that's why they did that.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna have to go and study this guy
Speaker 2: from the Colorado school of mind.
Speaker 1: I let's face the bills and then I want to
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Speaker 1: State Rookies Vets Live stream Tuesday twelve fifteen until one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what do you remember from the first time you
Speaker 1: practiced with the vets?
Speaker 2: It was magical, it was scary, It was everything you
Speaker 2: think about when you live in a dream. Like I
Speaker 2: think people don't understand. We dreamed since were like three
Speaker 2: four years old of playing this game and win it.
Speaker 2: Act happens and you get into your first couple of practices,
Speaker 2: Like I say, it's more of trying to figure out
Speaker 2: do I belong with these group of guys. How can
Speaker 2: I fit in with these group of guys? And Bruce
Speaker 2: Smith was my guy, like it's always gonna be one
Speaker 2: or two vets that time you get there to kind
Speaker 2: of they picking at you and.
Speaker 1: Isn't a funny Sorry to interrupt, but when you were
Speaker 1: talking about the first time you got on the field
Speaker 1: and you had to go right at the fullback Thatuce
Speaker 1: Jackson was the first sorry. Bruce Smith was the first
Speaker 1: guy to turn around.
Speaker 2: And say, hey, hey, it's what you need to do
Speaker 2: because it's always gonna beat this vet. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: one vet. They like take a liking to you, like
Speaker 2: take a liking to you, so they're gonna try to
Speaker 2: protect you by telling you to protect yourselfing all right,
Speaker 2: So I enjoyed that, but also, like I said, it's scary.
Speaker 2: I can remember like before the first practice, it's like
Speaker 2: you're putting on your jersey, you putting on your pet.
Speaker 2: All of this stuff is not traumatic, but all this
Speaker 2: stuff is like I'm on such a high. I'm on
Speaker 2: such a high, such a high. Now you go to
Speaker 2: practice and it's like, hey, let me, uh, let me
Speaker 2: try to just do what they asked me to do,
Speaker 2: but then they want you to show your talent at
Speaker 2: the same time, and I'm a talker, so I wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna go out there quiet because then I can't beat myself.
Speaker 2: So I went out there yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah immediately midrid Lee because
Speaker 1: I had already studied the wide receivers.
Speaker 2: On the roster. I had Locket, I had uh. Of
Speaker 2: course I had Rob Gardner, who's a rookie with me.
Speaker 2: I had just shut him down in the Peach Bowl,
Speaker 2: so I went, put your hands in your pocket. So
Speaker 2: I had Michael Rischbrook. So I had to study the
Speaker 2: other guys that was on the team, and I think
Speaker 2: Marty really was shocked that I had did that beforehand.
Speaker 2: He was like, why did you do that? Not like
Speaker 2: I need to know who I'm dealing with their practice.
Speaker 2: I'm not finna come to practice late and then show
Speaker 2: up and don't don't know these guys traits. I know
Speaker 2: Lockety couldn't beat me deep one fast enough, Rob Gardner
Speaker 2: couldn't beat me deep one fast enough. Michael Rischbrook, So
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm sitting on all of these guys
Speaker 2: like until you pull out a speed guy. I'm literally
Speaker 2: sitting on all the guys. So I had already did
Speaker 2: my homework. I had already understood the mission in hand,
Speaker 2: Like I already know it's a trash talker. You cannot
Speaker 2: go in that talk of trash if I ain't got
Speaker 2: no information on you. I need information. So I was
Speaker 2: always a studier, so I studied these guys before my
Speaker 2: first practice. But it was just it was anxious. Man.
Speaker 2: I felt so anxious inside. And I'll never forget that
Speaker 2: first night going to sleep in bed. I slept with
Speaker 2: a smile on my face like the joker because I
Speaker 2: was like, I do belong, like because you do feel
Speaker 2: like all right, yeah, I do belong with a powerful feeling. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a very powerful feeling.
Speaker 1: I remember when I first got hired in TV, and
Speaker 1: it was here many many moons ago, but I looked around,
Speaker 1: I was like, there is a lot of talent here.
Speaker 1: I gotta be ready to go, and I was.
Speaker 2: I was a little starstruck.
Speaker 1: And then I remember when I felt like I think
Speaker 1: I belong and it was a great feeling. But it's
Speaker 1: different in the NFL, that's obviously a different level. Were
Speaker 1: you a little starstruck because you you had some superstars here.
Speaker 2: I walked to the coach off, Why did you draft me?
Speaker 2: You said that, Where am I gonna play? I ain't
Speaker 2: like my idol, d On Sanders is in here, my
Speaker 2: co hearted and the guy I just was playing in
Speaker 2: SEC with Champ Bailey is here and dud Darryl Green?
Speaker 2: All right? Where am I?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Boy, go in that room, learn everything you can. We're
Speaker 2: gonna let it work itself out on the field. Don't
Speaker 2: you worry about that? So, yes, I was star scrug.
Speaker 2: People don't understand I WoT twenty three for like two weeks.
Speaker 1: That you've forgotten that.
Speaker 2: Most people don't understand that I wore twenty three for
Speaker 2: two weeks before I was given twenty one by my idol,
Speaker 2: d N Sanders. So I'm star scruged by prime time
Speaker 2: from the door I have. I have designed my whole
Speaker 2: football career after him. I wore two in college before
Speaker 2: for him, like everything was d D for the state right, Yes,
Speaker 2: everything was de ncentric with me. And I remember having
Speaker 2: talks with him because the good part I had already
Speaker 2: been talked to him in college, So he was one
Speaker 2: of the few people I already knew when I got here,
Speaker 2: he was like, uh, I'm not playing for Martie, Like,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Like, I'm not all right now.
Speaker 2: What I am gonna do is retire. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? He was like, here go my jersey,
Speaker 2: he go my locker, he go my joindans. We wear
Speaker 2: the same size, shit, we do everything. So by him
Speaker 2: like just handing this all into my left I felt ordained.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was a minister. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I felt like, oh, he's he's giving you
Speaker 2: as callible. You have to be the dude now. So
Speaker 2: I felt that I feel good about it. But like
Speaker 2: I said, I was I was never really starskrooked. I
Speaker 2: think I was starscrooked by d H. And then Dale
Speaker 2: Green was tasked with the task of for me in lie.
Speaker 1: Oh, prayers up.
Speaker 2: It took Jesus to have him. Lord, I need your help.
Speaker 1: I've got a young man that needs your assistance.
Speaker 2: So many degree had this, this this tight relationship. So
Speaker 2: I was just happy the guys took me in like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because I don't think that
Speaker 2: you know, they don't respond every rookie to say that's
Speaker 2: space of bells.
Speaker 1: I want to wrap things up here, and I get
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Speaker 2: Great great great granddaddy Papa Smooth, Papa Smooth hit up
Speaker 2: Seek Geek and got a ticket to the coliseum and
Speaker 2: watch some shows in Rome, like nine decades ago. Seek
Speaker 2: Geek been alone a thousand time, long time, long time.
Speaker 2: The way I went to the coliseum, by the way
Speaker 2: I went to Wrong Wrong one of my favorite places.
Speaker 2: I go there all the time. You're quite the historian.
Speaker 2: I mean now, no, no, that's what I like. I'm
Speaker 2: a nerd for history, and if you have never been
Speaker 2: to Rome, I tell you this, you would be very,
Speaker 2: very shocked at the When I say technology, I just
Speaker 2: shocked the way they built that city.
Speaker 1: Like with the lack of technology that they were able
Speaker 1: to build the things that they did just using their mind.
Speaker 2: Yes, listen to me, and you gotta be like, where
Speaker 2: is the how much manpower did it take to make
Speaker 2: these things?
Speaker 1: Have?
Speaker 2: I think we really sleep on our ancestors. We really
Speaker 2: sleep on the way they did things. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you've never seen the pyramid and the Sphinx, you
Speaker 2: are food because when you lay eyes on it, you
Speaker 2: start to think differently about the past. Yeah, like they
Speaker 2: might then have a flat screen TV, but they had
Speaker 2: air conditioning. Well, you mentioned manpower. We saw some man power.
Speaker 2: In the last week. Michael Parsons and CJ.
Speaker 1: Stride went overseas and they were on a trip together
Speaker 1: and they got in the sumo ring with some sewer wrestlers.
Speaker 2: Now this wasn't the big even.
Speaker 1: Pretty big guy in a diaper, chest to chest, chest
Speaker 1: to chest. Michael Parsons got any o. The first time
Speaker 1: he lost, but the second time Michael who was obviously
Speaker 1: a huge dude, kind of had his way a little bit,
Speaker 1: got back a little bit. I would still bank on
Speaker 1: the sumo guy who just kind of sitting there well
Speaker 1: first of all, but.
Speaker 2: It was impressive. You don't look good if you got
Speaker 2: abs and you souno wrestling right, you need a gut
Speaker 2: by your butt. You understand me. This is about weight
Speaker 2: yes and weight transfer. I can't do it. Have you
Speaker 2: ever tried it? I think me and you said similar
Speaker 2: wrestling next week? Me and you live on TV. You
Speaker 2: just like, hey, next. But I love God that chase culture,
Speaker 2: chase other coaches. Man, that's what we got on this earth.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of different coaches. And it's fun
Speaker 2: to embrace of the coaches, fun to understand why you
Speaker 2: love these things. And that's what they did. They went adventure.
Speaker 2: I'm an adventurer like I'm Indiana Jones Jenkins. That's what
Speaker 2: I do. I adventure and I like to go see stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, now it's time for our comments of the week here.
Speaker 1: Thanks to all of you guys. Make sure you leave
Speaker 1: your comments in the YouTube comments.
Speaker 2: But we got this. We always want to hear from you.
Speaker 1: I try to get in there and respond a little
Speaker 1: bit when I can. Aaron Harris thirty seventy two says,
Speaker 1: remember we're talking about roast last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, cause the Tom Brady roast was the best.
Speaker 2: It was great, wasn't. Oh Like, I had to ask
Speaker 2: myself who's next because Michael Jordan can't do it? Because
Speaker 2: we're talking about goats getting roasted. Oh yeah, Jordan can't
Speaker 2: do it. You wouldn't do it. Scan then Tiger couldn't
Speaker 2: do it. I came up with the perfect person who
Speaker 2: has a Brady like humility, Bred Pitt Ooh, it will
Speaker 2: be a good one because you gotta be a goat like.
Speaker 2: You can't go from goat to regular dude. That's true.
Speaker 2: Go go go go Bred Pitt being roasted. That's a
Speaker 2: good one. Be great, that's a good call. You got
Speaker 2: a roast question coming up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But Aaron Harris thirty seventy two says, Smooth definitely gave
Speaker 1: us material throughout the years. A DC Sports roast will
Speaker 1: be cool, Jade will be all right at two ten,
Speaker 1: two fifteen, Lamar and Vic play it that weight or smaller?
Speaker 2: Yeah, success.
Speaker 1: I'm more curious about the offensive scheme and even the
Speaker 1: defensive scheme. I'm also curious about who will be the
Speaker 1: return specialist on special teams.
Speaker 2: Oh great call right there. Uh, jaydon will be good.
Speaker 2: If you survive in the SEC at one ninety, you
Speaker 2: can survive in the league one night. I got here
Speaker 2: at one. Tell the truth, I lied one seventy five,
Speaker 2: so I survived. I didn't get hurt. It's part of it.
Speaker 2: If you're tough, you're tough. It don't matter how how
Speaker 2: big I small you are. And you're right Lamar Vick Saville.
Speaker 2: Because they had a special skill set, so does jayde Daniels.
Speaker 2: He has a special skill set. I'm in trouble. I'm
Speaker 2: running simplest that yoe. It's one of those things in
Speaker 2: the offensive scheme. I don't think any of us know.
Speaker 2: Like Coach said, this is not the funny gun, this
Speaker 2: is not any of that. He caters offense to the person.
Speaker 2: And if he's gonna cater this to jayde Daniels, if
Speaker 2: we will have a strong throwing element but also a
Speaker 2: strong running element to it defensive scheme. I like Coach Witt.
Speaker 2: I love Wit. I watched Coach Wit send help Child's
Speaker 2: Wiston get a yellow jacket man listen, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: calling him John Wick by the end of the year,
Speaker 2: all right, because that's what he does. He dies SCTs.
Speaker 2: People on defense expect a very aggressive de with protecting
Speaker 2: the DBS because most people like to just put us
Speaker 2: on the island and say protect yourself. He will have
Speaker 2: a strong blitzing, but he'll still be protecting the DB's
Speaker 2: allowing them to make plays. So I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be good on both sides. And I'm eager to just
Speaker 2: sit back and see how they nurture talent like a
Speaker 2: man you were Forbes. Now, if you let me be
Speaker 2: the roaster, if I'm the rooster in there, you would
Speaker 2: be the guy. I would be the guy.
Speaker 1: You would definitely be the master of ceremonies. Like if
Speaker 1: we had a.
Speaker 2: The Roast of d C, meaning DC's top athletes, get
Speaker 2: ov in there, Oh yeah, he wouldn He'd be like,
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't understand that you're saying that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but if we get these guys in here, you know
Speaker 2: who I would roll the roast the most. Gilbert Arenas
Speaker 2: I love Gill. No, not Gil, I love gil It'll
Speaker 2: be Bryce Harper. I would love to roast Bryce Harper
Speaker 2: even though you can was the championship. I do love you.
Speaker 2: But when you got to Philly.
Speaker 1: And he didn't get it, he left, and then the
Speaker 1: Nats won it all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: When he was here, it was everything Vegas. You know now,
Speaker 2: I got a fan everything on the whist coach. Then
Speaker 2: you got to Phil a death. Oh I've been a
Speaker 2: seventy six. I love it. I've always loved feeling. Know
Speaker 2: you haven't. You're lying, dude, like Hey, Philly, Philly, Forever
Speaker 2: man Rocky. I got Rocky tattooed on mom. You jerk,
Speaker 2: like listen. I would love to roast him, very slowly,
Speaker 2: rotisserie style. I would give DC everything they was waiting
Speaker 2: on for two straight hours. I don't even need material.
Speaker 2: I'm coming straight off the dome piece. I don't need
Speaker 2: no writers, I don't need nothing. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 2: everything you ever needed. Bryce Hopper, Oh, that would be fantastic.
Speaker 2: It'll be great.
Speaker 1: We can make it happen before we go. I want
Speaker 1: to send a shout out to the Players Club Emmy
Speaker 1: nominated Maddie, Kayla and Yoke. Hopefully they bring home a
Speaker 1: statue here in June but you might be rooting against them.
Speaker 1: I am rooting against some rooting for Rachel Nichols in.
Speaker 2: This situation, I want her to win. I can't stomach
Speaker 2: London Fletcher. Now do you think I bade the stomach
Speaker 2: him after an Emmy? He already? Oh, I had one
Speaker 2: more interception than you. You played seven more years than
Speaker 2: I did. You should If he gets an Emmy, oh
Speaker 2: it's over. I will not beabe the stomach see lo Green,
Speaker 2: I would not be the stomach London Fletcher because he
Speaker 2: will not let me make it. So I'm gonna postphone
Speaker 2: this when they say, I hope y'all don't win the Emmy,
Speaker 2: not today, next.
Speaker 1: Year, Yes, you mean next year without London.
Speaker 2: No, I want to give myself tied to win an Emmy.
Speaker 2: I need to win it before here. Okay, I need
Speaker 2: to win the Emmy before them. Now, I want y'all
Speaker 2: to win one. I'm not a getting I'm not a hater.
Speaker 2: No hate here, hate free. But I have to win
Speaker 2: it before London for it to be correct. All right,
Speaker 2: So my blessings go at the y'all. But I'm pulling
Speaker 2: for Rachel Nichols. I ain't recognitions recognition she been one
Speaker 2: of the best they ever do it. London Fletcher recognid it?
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