1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of My Heart Radio. Creeta feature. 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: It's greet You Cringle Times, Oh Holiday Special, look about 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: our furry friends. Today we'll go into the distant past 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: and find out Pool poll keep santas Late Imagination Station. 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Real life unicorns join us as we learn exploring them. 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Early friends were really really rare, and horses used to 7 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: be like you were boys. Greeta feature the Holiday Special. 8 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: But we will not be singing the whole time. I 9 00:00:52,960 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: promise stay here placed, don't go. Welcome to Creature Future 10 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. I'm your host of Many Parasites, 11 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, and today 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: on the show, we're talking about Caveman Santa and who 13 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: would have got it as like Happy Creature, Creingle, Happy Creature, Cragle, 14 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: Happy Creature Crest whoa. So we are going to be 15 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: sacking Santa's reindeer and replacing them with my favorite contenders 16 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: from Christmas past, way past, millions of years in the past, 17 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: from a real unicorn to a horse small enough to 18 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: fit in Paris Hilton's purse. These ghosts of Christmas Past 19 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: are ready to spread joy to all the world's children, 20 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: or cave children or apes. When we go far enough 21 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: back does scover this and more as we answer the 22 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: angel question, if you've got a shovel for a mouth, 23 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: how do you kiss under the mistletol Joining me today 24 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: is Front of the podcast host of Secretly incredibly Fascinating 25 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: and jolly Human, Alex Schmidt. Welcome. I have so deeply 26 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: jolly after that song. Yes, I felt like we were 27 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: both clay made a an hon a sled going through 28 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: a wonderful land. That was great. Yeah, our hair kind 29 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: of flopping around as it's not quite animated correctly, and 30 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: like you can see like fingerprints on the clay that 31 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: kind of like style, you know, real rough, real rough 32 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: claymation going on here. Yeah, they made it in a 33 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: hurry and they had to. Yeah, you can see a 34 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: hand in one of the frames. There's like clear wires 35 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: and threads sticking out. But that's what makes it special. 36 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: So today we are we are actually talking about animals 37 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: that do look like they are for m crappy claymation 38 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: from the fifties, like for real, and I am so excited. 39 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: These are prehistoric, extinct animals who I think would be 40 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: quite impressive guiding Santa's sligh. That's very exciting. Yeah, so 41 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: let's start out, I think with a unicorn. Alex. Do 42 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: you believe in unicorns? Oh? I don't believe in them. 43 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: I just really like the concept that was like, that 44 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: was some really clever. I wonder if people were ever 45 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: like cryptid believing in it type people about unicorns. I 46 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: think it's a very fun, fantastical idea. I think so. 47 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: I think people did just probably because they found fossils 48 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: they couldn't explain and they were like, well, that's a unicorn. 49 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Or they found a narral tusk and they're like, that's 50 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: a unicorn. That's yeah, that's true. I guess, especially when 51 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: you're digging, if you just find a whole horse and 52 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: one horn from any horned animal, it's an easy mistake 53 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: to make. Yeah, exactly. But what if I told you 54 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: there really was a unicorn and it's very fantastical looking, 55 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled. I'd want to ride first. First, I 56 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: was in a claymated sled, very thrilling. Now I'm going 57 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: to ride a unicorn. I've gotta I've gotta listen to 58 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: that like Happy Unicorn power song from that one game 59 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: like the platform or from the internet. Yeah, it's not 60 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: a good description of it, but you know what I mean. 61 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: So first, in order to discover this unicorn, I want 62 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: you to imagine a rhino, just a regular rhino, got it? 63 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: Is it in there? Now make it bigger, like, way bigger, 64 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: and now make it fluffy. Is it fluffy? Oh fantastic? Yes? 65 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: Now reimagine the rhino's horn. Uh, and to the horn 66 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: of a giant magical unicorn coming right out of the 67 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: middle of its forehead. That's true, the forehead horn. That's 68 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: got to be such a different experience from the nose 69 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: horn right right, like your whole head balance and everything 70 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: that that seems like a maybe small change at first, 71 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: but when I really think about it, boy, totally differently. Yeah, 72 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: there aren't really many animals, are any that I can 73 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: think of that really have that single forehead horn. Our 74 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: current day rhinos do sometimes have a sort of nose 75 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: horn and then maybe a forehead horn. The two horned rhinos, 76 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: and some of them just got through the nose horn bump, 77 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: but one horn just right out in the middle of 78 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: the forehead. Really struggling to think of any mammal that 79 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: has that situation going on. Yeah, shoot, I wish they 80 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: were still here. This is prehistoric, right, it's a it's 81 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: departed in an age long ago. It has they have 82 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: gone on a big spaceship and gone to that great 83 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: planet that of the Siberian unicorns in the sky. So, yes, 84 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: this is the extinct Siberian unicorn a k a allasam 85 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Ethereums sibericum, that once thudded along the grasslands of your 86 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: asia long ago. So Alex, you have it in your imagination, 87 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: and now look at those pictures that I've provided for 88 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: you as well. Yeah, I'm bullet it up. And this 89 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: is an extra good time to me because there's like 90 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: an illustration first and then a physical mock up somebody 91 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: made second. And I think the physical mock up the 92 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: horn gets even bigger if I'm seeing this right, like 93 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: they just I feel like every person who imagines this 94 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: is exaggerating like a fish story with the horn. At 95 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: some point the horn is just so big. It's this 96 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: little little rhinoceros dangling off of it. Yeah, so the 97 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: horn itself. We don't I'm going to be real with you, 98 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: we don't really know how big this thing was, the 99 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: size of it is estimated based on the skull, because 100 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they have like, um that much in 101 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: turn of full intact horns of like adults. So the 102 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: like it's like there's this indentation on the school that 103 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: seems to be where the horn would have grown out of, 104 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: and then they estimate the size of the horn based 105 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: on other aspects of this thing. So I am a 106 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: little skeptical of the one where it just seems like 107 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: it is this massive horn that is almost I mean, 108 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: it's bigger than its head in circumference almost. Not sure 109 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: if that's true, but it would be cool cool if true. 110 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: I think I think you're right. I think this drawing 111 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: the first version it's and it's still quite a horn, 112 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: and it also seems a little more proportional. Yeah, yeah, 113 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm way into it. And it's so far up on 114 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: the head there. You're right, it's just kind of got 115 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: a snout in the nose area. It's a it's a 116 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: chunky unicorn. It's a thick, thick unicorn. So the Siberian 117 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: unicorn when extinct a little under forty thousand years ago, 118 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: so technically humans may have crossed paths with these fellers 119 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: at some point Uh, it was huge. It was larger 120 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: than any living species of rhino and larger than it's 121 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: contemporary uh, the wooly rhino. So it weighed around four 122 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: tons or two toyota tacomas. Um my favorite unit of measurement. Uh. 123 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: It was mid teen feet or four point five meters long. 124 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: It was also over eight feet or two point five 125 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: meters tall. So is a big boy. Wow. Okay, yeah, yeah, 126 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: I love with a prehistoric stuff. They do that little 127 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: little scale diagram where it's just a silhouette of a 128 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: little human next to whatever it is. I'm glad to 129 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: know that human would be very dwarfed. Yeah, be a 130 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: little just a little little bitty human. I mean, riding 131 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: one of these things, you'd look like a hobbit. Yeah. 132 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: It's very like somebody on a giant eagle and learn 133 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: of the rings that scale the eagle is much bigger. Yea, yeah, 134 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is shockingly huge. I think 135 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: that it is. And it's funny because it is like 136 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: it's like a very metal unicorn. So like you know, 137 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: you have a unicorn, and people may tease you like, 138 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: oh you like unicorns. That's like, you know, that's weak. 139 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: That's something that manly. You know, I don't even know 140 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: toxic masculinity, but like this, this is a unicorn who 141 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: would thoroughly trounce you. That's I guess forgotten that a 142 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: little bit. There is that gendering of how we assume 143 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: people will like unicorns, Like we think all horse girls 144 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: will also like unicorns, and then boys will be too 145 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: busy with tanks and this animal sort of a tank. 146 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: So it's funny to me that unicorns is seen as 147 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: this is like feminine kind of like um, non tough 148 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: thing because it is a horse that has a spear 149 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: on its forehead. Yeah. Yeah, Like put it together, folks, Right, 150 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: a horse on a bad day can wreck you, right, Like, 151 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: a horse can already wreck you. It can stomp you, 152 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: it can toss you, it can kick you. It's already serious. 153 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: And then you add a weapon to its head and 154 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, that's you know, that's that's weak, Like 155 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: that's that's silly, and that's for girls. And it's like, 156 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: first of all, uh fine, like if girls have to 157 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: claim unicorns, that's fine. Good luck with your non weaponized horses, fellas. 158 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: That is funny. About a month ago, I rode a 159 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: horse for the first time. Really was it scary and 160 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: scared of horses. It I think it was a very 161 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: well trained horse, but it also had a lot of 162 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: different ideas from me about how we should be proceeding 163 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: in the ride, where we should go, how fast we 164 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: should go. It's like every time I told it to 165 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: do something different changes. It was like okay, fine. But 166 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: also I had learned how to talk to this horse 167 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: like two seconds before getting out it, so I did 168 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: not feel in control at all. I was like, Okay, 169 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: I just hope being perched on this works out. Yeah. Yeah, 170 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I would be very easily 171 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: bossed around by a horse. I love horses. I have 172 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: never ridden a real horse. I've written a pony before 173 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: as a kid, but I thoroughly respect them. And they 174 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: scare me a little bit, like they are so huge, 175 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you are just by your good nature 176 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: not turning my face into a concave bowl like I 177 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, And and I think that they are quite impressive, 178 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: and they the idea of like be like, well, now 179 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hop on you. It's like that seems rude. 180 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: Maybe the horse is fine with it, but I don't 181 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, and I would just let that board, 182 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I would let the horse take charge. Really, it's just like, look, 183 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: don't ignore me, do what you want. I'm I'm sorry, 184 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm even here. You want to carrot, don't 185 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: don't kick me? Yeah, should have Bret Carrots. Yeah, I 186 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: and you know, I made it back to shout out 187 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: to Bud. Bud was the name of the horse. But things. Yeah, 188 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: he's a nice guy. But it's it really is. It's 189 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: like you're it's like you're on a motorcycle, but if 190 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: you're also on top of a cliff, and then a 191 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: fire animal can throw you off of the cliff at 192 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: any time if it wants to. It's a motor a 193 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: tall motorcycle with feelings. Yeah. Well, anyway, I want to 194 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: ride this animal. So anyways, this is like a mega rhino, 195 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: also with a huge spear on its head, so good 196 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: luck with that. The horn on its head is thought 197 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: to have been massive of and likely required the Siberian 198 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: unicorn to grow a large muscular hump on its back, 199 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: sort of like a bison. Um. Yeah, and you love bison, 200 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 1: so I thought you'd like this this guy too. Fantastic. 201 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: It is unknown like I said, how big the horn 202 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: really was, but based on a large Indian found on 203 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: its skull reconstructions, imagine this unicorn is being longer than 204 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: its head and very very thick. Um. I would say 205 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: some of the thickest models of it may be exaggerating 206 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, but it even with the more toned 207 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: down the toned down illustrations of it still look ridiculous. 208 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: Like it is like a thick It's like a bison 209 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: mixed with a rhino make a huge and then ama 210 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: like not just like one of those sort of thin 211 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know corn horn is a big one. 212 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: It's a chalker. Yeah, when you when you said the 213 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: scientific name before, I think the phrase like there gum 214 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: was part of it. And I'm pretty sure I learned 215 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: from this great show. I first learned about megatheriums, and 216 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: ever since then I've been like, Okay, theorium is probably 217 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: a big animal phrase. I should be like, oh mega too, Yeah, 218 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't want the theorium room means thee um? Does 219 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: that mean? Oh? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know Latin. 220 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't learn Latin at some point because of 221 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: the animals, but I didn't um. But yeah, so this 222 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: is yeah, this is a Lasmothereum sibericum um. So yeah, yeah. 223 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: Despite looking like they could easily shish kebab you and 224 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: roast you over an open fire, they were big, old herbivores, 225 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: likely grazers who munched down massive amounts of grass, and 226 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: their dependence on the grasslands may have been what led 227 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: to their downfall. There's not really evidence that we like 228 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: into them to extinction or anything like that. It seems 229 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: to be more that because they were so huge and 230 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: they needed so much grass that as grasslands shrank after 231 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: the ice age, they simply were not able to get 232 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: enough grass to sustain their populations. That makes sense. Yeah, 233 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: this definitely seems like it needs to be chomping into 234 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: and all of the time to buil it more horn, 235 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: but also to keep going. Yeah right exactly, so that 236 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: that temperature change really kind of screwed them. Um So, 237 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: in terms of why I think the Siberian unicorn would 238 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: be a good candidate for Santa Cave Santa to bring 239 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: back from uh uh from the I guess from the extinction, 240 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: although I guess if it's Cave Santa case, Santa would 241 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: have been contemporary with this guy, so uh, one is 242 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: that there is huge horn to break ice or to 243 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: fight off grunches. Uh. The Siberian unicorn is also vegetarian friendly, 244 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: it only scrass. It is also fluffy, cold proof, and adorable. 245 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: And it's a literal unicorn, so I feel like it 246 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: is already probably infused with magic. What do you think, Alex? 247 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: I agree with all that, And I'm thinking of that 248 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: like traditional picture of what is it eight reindeer pulling 249 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: the sledges, and I feel like it's like a two 250 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: columns of four reindeer. Is the general arrangement like two 251 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: two two two. These guys would need to work out 252 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: being positioned directly behind each other with an enormous horn, 253 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: And I could do it because like reindeer have those 254 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: huge handlers, they're not sticking up each other's butts all 255 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: the time, you know, so so these guys can probably 256 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: figure it out. But the handlers are a little less 257 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: forward facing than this horn, so I guess they need 258 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: they need some personal space there to avoid a very 259 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: unfortunate situation if like the one in front breaks very suddenly. Yeah, yeah, 260 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: I think maybe a bunch of paving, like yeah, wind 261 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: of socks sort of structure stick a little like ball 262 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: of styrofoam on the top of that point. There could 263 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: be going to work cutting and they put a huge 264 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: one of those foam microphone covers over their horns. It 265 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: could be festive, little festive pom poms, a lot of lights. 266 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: You can put so many Christmas lights on. Wow, that 267 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: you could paint it like a giant candy cane. Gosh. Yeah, So, Alex, 268 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: I know what you're wondering. I know what you're thinking. 269 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: What do you get when you cross a snow shovel 270 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: with an elephant? Man? Finally, here I am on on 271 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: a horseback in the woods, wondering that question, and the 272 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: horse is like, I don't know, man, And I keep 273 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: asking the horse what do with a snowshovel and an elephant? 274 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: It's one of the great unanswered questions of our times. Well, 275 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: I have an answer. It's the platty belladon the world's 276 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: due feist extinct elephant. He looks so dumb. Hooray oh 277 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: I pulled up the picture. Wow, great, very good. This 278 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite extinct animals. It is one 279 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: of the animals that got me interested in evolutionary biology 280 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, because I got like a 281 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: what was it, I don't remember the brand of magazine, 282 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: It might have been a Zoo Books, but it was 283 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: like a free magazine we got in the mail that 284 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: was about the Prehistoric Freaks Weekly. That was one of 285 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: my favorites. It was like it was like the evolution 286 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: of the elephant and it showed, uh, just a bunch 287 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: of weird, weird elephants, and I was fascinated by that, 288 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: and it really, I mean I was already I already 289 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: loved almost I think I was already probably addicted to 290 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: animals at that point, but this was this was amazing 291 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: and um so the Playbilla Don was one of the 292 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: world's doofist extinct elephants, possibly the world's dufius looking animal. 293 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: It looks like a Star Wars animal, but something that 294 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: is so silly looking. Even George Lucas would have had 295 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: to edit it out of his films, and he is 296 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: notorious for having doofy things and not knowing how to edit. 297 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: I know, if people don't know really like bison me 298 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: the bison emoji also variants of stuff like elephants, and 299 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: I think just like large mammals or like big yeah, 300 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: and like when those when those deluxe editions of the 301 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: original Star Wars movies came out, I was pretty excited 302 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: about the do backs. I think that whole school of animals, 303 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, pretty good. But do backs are also, as 304 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: you say, much more conventional. These guys would be just wacky. 305 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: It would be like, why are the Stormtroopers on a 306 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: comedy animal? Silly? Yeah, so they do have a bit 307 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: of a charger being situation going on the yeah yeah. 308 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: So the Platybelodon is a genus of extinct relatives of 309 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: elephants that lived during the Miocene epoch ten to fifteen 310 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: million years ago in Asia and Africa. So imagine an elephant, 311 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: but it's actually a bit smaller. Sometimes when we go prehistoric, 312 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: the animals are bigger, like giant sloths, and this giant 313 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: unicorn rhino is sometimes a smaller you know. Uh so 314 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: this one's a little bit smaller. Now, turn its trunk 315 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: into a giant shovel like it's almost kind of like 316 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: duck bill thing with a couple of buck teeth sticking 317 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: out of the lower jaw right on the tip of 318 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: its mouth. In addition, it still has tests on the 319 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: side of its mouth like modern elephants. So there has 320 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: been a lot of debate about exactly what this thing 321 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: looks like. So there are some depictions of it that 322 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: are a little more far fetched than others. All of 323 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: the depictions of it are bananas bonkers, so don't worry 324 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: like there's there's no a depiction of it that makes 325 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: it look normal, like a reasonable animal. Some are just 326 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: a little more wild than others. The depiction that is 327 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: my favorite, but possibly the least accurate, is the one 328 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: where it has like stretched out daffy duck uh like 329 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: bill with like buck teeth on the bottom. So it's 330 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: hard to know exactly what they look like because we 331 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: only have the like fossil records. We don't have the 332 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: soft tissue records, so like, we don't know what like 333 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: any of the sort of soft tissue would have looked like. 334 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: We can only guess based on the the skull, the 335 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: lower jaw, what the upper fleshy part of their um 336 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: essentially like it's this elongated proboscus would have looked like. 337 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: So with a modern elephant, you have a elongated nose 338 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: that acts as this big proboscis and has all these 339 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: muscles very fine tune control, and its mouth is way 340 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: back um, you know, like it's like it pulls. It 341 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: doesn't eat with the tip of its trunk. It can 342 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: breathe with the tip of its trunk, but it you know, 343 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: can pull up grasses or vegetation and bring it up 344 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: to its mouth. And you've probably seen an elephant eat, 345 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: you've probably seen it drink. It also doesn't drink like 346 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: through its nose. It sucks that water in and then 347 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: dumps it into its mouth. So so it's thought that 348 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: the Platybellodon had a similar situation going that it didn't 349 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: like have a weird mouth at the tip of its proboscus, 350 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: but unlike the unlike the elephant, it had a low, 351 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: elongated lower jaw. Now this is pretty pretty definitive based 352 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: on the fossil records. We have the fossil records of 353 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: this really long like weird scooper shovel shovel like lower 354 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: jaw that probably had these like two sort of like 355 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: buck teeth or like weird uh, just like two tusks 356 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: together that's stuck out at the bottom. So definitely had 357 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: a long lower jaw. Now the upper one, like it 358 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: could have been more like a modern day elephant tusk, right, 359 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: because the idea that it was more like an elephant 360 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: tusk is that its mouth again, like, how is it 361 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: going to get stuff in its mouth like like sort 362 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: of scoop things up and then like toss its head 363 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: all the way back and hope that it all falls in. 364 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: Probably not uh with that. If it hasn't easily manipulatable 365 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: upper proboscis, then it could like you know, pick things 366 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: up and then place it back into its mouth, which 367 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: is like you know, sort of like the the the 368 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: bits where it would be able to chew and eat 369 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: stuff is not at the tip of that proboscus or 370 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: even at the tip of that jaw. It would be 371 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: in like deeper. I mean, like it's weird to think 372 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: about because our mouths are so like self contained. But 373 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: for this, for this thing, it can't like chew with 374 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: the front bits of its lower jaw or its long proboscus. 375 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: It's got to get it back there somehow. So like 376 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: the depictions of its mouth is more like a weird 377 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: I don't even know, just like a weird kind of 378 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: like beak thing that like closes all the way. It's like, well, 379 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: then this, that upper thing would have to somehow get 380 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: stuff in that deeper into its mouth, and it's a 381 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: little unclear how it would do that with such a long, 382 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: unwieldy duck like proboscis. But you know, it could have 383 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: been flatter than a modern day elephants trunk, but still 384 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: could manipulate things like still grab things and manipulate and 385 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: push it back, so I get I. In my opinion, 386 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: probably the most accurate model would be elephant with this 387 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: ridiculously long lower jaw with the two buck teeth sticking out. 388 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: So that's still good. That's still there. Oh yeah, we're 389 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: not losing that. The top part of it probably a 390 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: flatter but still relatively recognizable elephant trunk on top of 391 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: it's not quite like a weird duck bill, but still 392 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: a a a flatter, a little bit thicker and flatter 393 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: elephant trunk. That's my unprofessional opinion that that's making me 394 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: think of obviously all the cartoon ducks you mentioned total fit, 395 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: and then I'm thinking of the Disney character Goofy, Like 396 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: if you put those two teeth of his on the 397 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: bottom and set the top, that's kind of the mouth 398 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: we're looking at, which I don't. I don't want to 399 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: see him eat at all out of the cartoon. It's 400 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: it's very even the most reserved reconstructions of this are 401 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: wild and very very strange. Looks like a fever dream 402 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: of an elephant. Um now, uh, they're so like. There 403 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: used to be this theory about this elephant that kind 404 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: of informed the illustrations of it, which is that it 405 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: used its mouth as a shovel and kind of like 406 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: would live in sort of swampy areas and then shovel 407 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: up sort of swamp grasses and then like you know, 408 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: kind of let it sort of drop in the backs 409 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: of their mouths. But modern researchers think that it's more 410 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: likely given the shape and characteristics of those low or 411 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: buck teeth that just jut out. God, it's just it's 412 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: so weird. It's like a big spoon with like these 413 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: two like a fork at the end. I don't even know, man, 414 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: it's look this thing up. Please look it up, and 415 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: don't look at just the first result. Look at many 416 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: different reconstructions. So the thought is that, um uh, that 417 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: they used this lower jaw not to like as a shovel, 418 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: but actually as like a tree trimmer. So uh, it's 419 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: like basically the wear patterns on this seem to indicate 420 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: that it was used to strip off bark and leaves 421 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: off of trees. So basically it would use his lower 422 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: jutting jaw to like tree trim the tree, and then 423 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: its upper trunk to take that stuff it just trimmed 424 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: and then push it back into its mouth. I yeah, 425 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: like a bucket for catching. You're like an ounce yielder 426 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: is amazing. Yeah, yeah, so it's I mean, it's just 427 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: like you can imagine this thing shred and stuff with 428 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: its weird lower jaw and then picking it up with 429 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: its upper trunk thing and then putting it in its mouth. 430 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: Just I mean, there's no no matter how one reconstructs this, 431 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: this elephant, it was preposterous. Yeah, some for some reason. 432 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: I actually some comedy sketch where like a tree has 433 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: a mind like a human, and it's like, look at 434 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: that dumb animal. Definitely eats marsh stuff, doesn't me, it's 435 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: getting closer to me, don't need to worry about it. 436 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: Getting even closer to me, doesn't matter. Stupid marsh mouth. 437 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: Definitely that oh no, definitely a tree drivers about No. 438 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: So this is why I think the Platybelodon would be 439 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: a good candidate for Santa's sligh team. So even though 440 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: it may not have used its mouth as a shovel, 441 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: I think it still could so emergence the snowshovel mouth 442 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: for efficient rooftop landings, as long as the roof is 443 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: structurally stable enough to handle the weight of a small elephant. Uh. 444 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: But in addition, those buck teeth would be useful for 445 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: tree trimming, so cutting down uh Christmas trees, trimming them 446 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: all great? Uh? Proboscis could the elephant trunk part of 447 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: it could be used to help tie Christmas presents? Uh sorry, 448 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: creature Kringle presents. I want to be clear here. This 449 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: is for Creature Kringle Times, a nondenominational holiday for all. 450 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, so creature creature of a creature Kringle 451 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: Times presence um also Santa at least our creature Kringle 452 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: Time Santa Cave. Santa is a kind magical man who 453 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: knows not to ride on top of the platty Belodon 454 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: because platty Belodon, like modern elephants, had, probably had a 455 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: skeletal structure that means they can't bear the weight of 456 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: a human writer and that can hurt them. So Cave 457 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: Santa would know this because he's you know, magical and 458 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: would use magical slight powder to help the platty billad 459 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: on fly and there would be no pressure on its back. 460 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: And they're probably friends. So that's canon. Yeah, that's that's true. 461 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah. I like that we're thinking so much 462 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: about how this animal eats. Yes, it's making me think 463 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: about Santa. Like there's so much Santa Laura about how 464 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: Santa eats and drinks as this night goes on, Like 465 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: he has a couple of billion helpings of milk and cookies. 466 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: So I want the Christmas stuff to be like, yeah, 467 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: kids like Santa will come have milk and cookies. Meanwhile, 468 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: his platty belladons are eating the trees outside our house. 469 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: That's a fun break to me. That's a good good 470 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: stopper snacks. Yeah, make sure to plant a lot of friendly, 471 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: deciduous edible trees for the Plotty Belladon, the Creature Kringle 472 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: Times Plotty Belaton. You're like, oh, what a wonderful set 473 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: of presents. Anyway, time to go outside and all the 474 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: trees are just gone, Like you can just see for 475 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: miles you know, right, I mean you gotta pay the piper, 476 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: in this instance an extinct elephant relative. Yeah. Just a 477 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: lot of rooftop damage too from the magical platybelod On 478 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: thumping down onto the roof. I feel like reindeer reindeer 479 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: would cause a good amount of damage anyways, So that's yeah. 480 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of especially kids are like, oh, 481 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: all hoofed animals are on like pony logic where it's 482 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: tiny in a way I want it to be, but 483 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: those things are huge, like they would definitely break through 484 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: a lot of roofs and jingles and stuff. Yeah. Well, 485 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: speaking of tiny pony logic, when we return, we are 486 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: going to stop with the big and start thinking small. 487 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: So tiny pony time, Tiny pony time, Tiny time, the 488 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: tiny any time. It's like tiny tim but tiny pony, 489 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: May I have some ponies. It's like, I'll give you ponies. 490 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually very nice surprised. So so far we've gone 491 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: with huge animals who could probably take over, like the 492 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: whole reindeer team, to be honest, like the platty belled 493 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: On the Siberian Unicorn, both quite huge megafauna. But what 494 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: about microfauna keeny tiny adorable animals. So let's look at 495 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: the world's first horse. Uh, number one, horse number one, 496 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: Like once we started making these horses very different from 497 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: from the horses today. So when we think about like 498 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: the world's first x y Z, it's it's like kind 499 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: of tricky, right, Like, well, what truly was the world's 500 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: first horse? Well, it's more like this is the first 501 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: sort of common ancestor of all horses. And that's essentially 502 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: what we would say, like, you know the first horse, 503 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: and the first horse was so teeny and tiny inch ball. Uh, 504 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: it's it's so wonderful. Um. The first horse was the 505 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: Pripis Sandre, which was a genus of teeny tiny, itty 506 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: bitty baby horses who lived in Wyoming over fifty million 507 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: years ago. So it was the size of a chihuahua 508 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: around eight pounds or four and a half ms. It 509 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: was smaller than a modern horse's head. So this kind 510 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: of horse, I feel like I could confidently boss around. 511 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: It's true, isn't it? Is this the horse from the 512 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: question about the duck sized horses or the horse sized 513 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: duck is right? But I wouldn't want to fight these 514 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: guys because they're so cute. No. No, And also anytime 515 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: people ask that question, I'm like, why are you battling animals? 516 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: They're so nice? Like, I don't know, but I feel 517 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: like if the duck sized horses want to fight you, 518 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: you've done something to deserve it. Absolutely all a hundred 519 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: of them can't be wrong. So the main difference between 520 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: it and modern horses, other than obviously the fact it's 521 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: the size of a lap dog, is its feet. So 522 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: while horses have one fused toe, the safripis had multiple toes. Uh. 523 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: So it's like a teeny tiny horse with little tootsies. Cool. Okay, yeah, 524 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: I'll bet that's I'll bet that's helpful for walking. Right, 525 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: you have a little more control, grip, etcetera. You're not 526 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: just on a stub. That has to be one thing. 527 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a trade off, right like 528 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: you are sort of. Um, the hoof has some great 529 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: properties in terms of like sort of suspension, weight distribution, 530 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: things like that, uh, toughness of the feet and the 531 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: fact that this thing like continually the horse hoof like 532 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: sort of continually grows and makes it very tough and 533 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: so a horse can uh in a wild horse can 534 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: sort of trample over rough terrain and like shoes, you know, 535 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: natural shoes, growing shoes. The reason we actually have to 536 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: shoe horses that are domesticated is because they are on 537 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: harder surfaces, so like streets, cobblestone, things like that, and 538 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: you kind of like paved thing is gonna be too 539 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: hard on the hoofs and we'll wear them down too quickly. 540 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: But wild horses are on softer terrain, but still having 541 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: those like hooves uh does protect their feet and legs 542 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: from the stress of like galloping and running. And they 543 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: don't really need the other toes uh for things like 544 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: they don't use them for other things. So that is 545 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: why generally speaking, like you would have something like a 546 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: hoof form, but for this little tiny light animal, it 547 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily need the hoof structure so much to like 548 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, offer that cushioning that protection as it's like running, 549 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: and the toes might be useful for something like digging 550 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: things up. In fact, like some ungulates, not all ungulates 551 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: have like horse hoofs. Some are like have multiple toes, 552 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: and some have things like cup shaved hoofs, like caribou 553 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: or reindeer have these like cup shaped hoofs uh, that 554 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: can actually like dig up vegetation. So yeah, they're all 555 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: sorts of interesting hoof structures. But yeah, the first the 556 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: first horse ancestor genus, like they had multiple toes, they 557 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't had not yet had those all fused into that 558 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: one hoof. Wow, that's also interesting. I didn't know much 559 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: of any of that, especially like cup shaped hooves. That's great. Yeah, 560 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: that seems very handy, very very handy. R hoofy uh, 561 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm so human centric, Like those are probably bad and 562 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: hands are the best, is my perspective. Interestingly, scientists are 563 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: looking at how the prepose responded to climate change to 564 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: predict how species might be impacted during our current anthropogenic 565 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: climate change. So in the past there's been climate change, right, 566 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: like natural climate change. Currently, the climate change we're experiencing 567 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 1: is increasing at a rate unprecedented, and it's anthropogenic caused 568 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: human cause. Like, there's a bunch of research on this. 569 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: So like when people were like, oh, well, you know 570 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: there's been climate change in the past, like is different. Um, 571 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: but even in the past climate change did have a 572 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: huge impact on the world. So, um, there was a 573 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: period of rapid heating during the Paleocene Eocene thermal maximum, 574 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: which was around fifty five million years ago, where global 575 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: temperatures rose by almost twenty degrees fahrenheit or eight degrees 576 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: celsius and lasted around two hundred thousand years. And the 577 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: paleontologists have found that this caused this A Rippus species 578 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: to get small, going from around twelve pounds to eight pounds, 579 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: so they started off and when even more teacup size, 580 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: it's possible then that researchers speculate that maybe modern animals 581 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: will adapt to global warming by getting smaller, if they 582 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: don't just go extinct. So yeah, like global warming today 583 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: is happening at an alarming leak fast rate, So the 584 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: worry is that it's happening too fast for animals to adapt. 585 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: Um that is just going to like cause sort of 586 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: extinctions rather than you know, a more gradual natural selection. 587 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: But it's possible that animals will become smaller in response 588 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: to global warming, and that's not necessarily good thing. Uh, 589 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: but you know that's such a man I never thought 590 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 1: of that being a way things can go though. Even 591 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: that's amazing, And I guess we have these ancient examples 592 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: of some non human cause stuff that can be a guidance. 593 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, I mean again, it's very different because 594 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: this is a different kind of global war warming that 595 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: is happening in a much shorter time scale than historic 596 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: periods of global warming. But yeah, it's it's still possible 597 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: that we would see there be some selection for smaller animals. Um, 598 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: It's it's hard to know exactly. But anyways, let's talk 599 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: about how we could get this if Frippis to uh 600 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: uh told Santa sleigh h Also, can we can we 601 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: celebrate the name zef Rippis? Come on, folks, well, actually 602 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: it's got the acronym of your podcast in there. S 603 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: I f r H I P p U s so 604 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: s I f secretly in incredibly fascinating. This is the 605 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: horse of your podcast. That's right. I'm sitting on one 606 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: every time I tape. It's doing fine. It can it 607 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: can handle it. It kind of like made me think 608 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: of like some old timey way of like writing, sir, 609 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: and I'm reading it as like some media medieval like 610 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: s Frippis like you know, some kind of honorific. So, uh, 611 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: let's say that Frippis gets the same magical properties, same 612 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: physics of the nine reindeer that Santa has. And remember, 613 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: reindeer are real animals, also known as caribou. They are 614 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: quite hefty. Santa's reindeer are likely female because male reindeer 615 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: shed their antlers in the winter, while females keep their 616 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: antlers during the winter and shed them in spring. So 617 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: all all those prancer d answer, they're they're all ladies, okay. 618 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: I Also, I when when I was thinking about like 619 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: how this sleigh is arranged, and I was thinking of 620 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: eight reindeer, I think I fully forgot about Rudolph. Yeah, 621 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: that is definitely the most famous one. Uh. I'm the 622 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: one who has been through the Alex is the one 623 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: that was denying Rudolph those reindeer games. So direct your 624 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: hate towards Alex. Yeah, it's four on four man, what 625 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: do you want? What we gotta do? You can't have 626 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: an odd number. Yeah, And also it's eight ladies. You're 627 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: a guy, that's fine, but you know, we kind of 628 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: have a thing. I mean, it's interesting because Rudolph is 629 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: sometimes depicted as not having antlers, like having little nubs, 630 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: so he could actually be the only male. Wow, right, 631 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: that's yeah, Santa Santa is so he just has a 632 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: lot of personnel decisions going on that we don't understand. 633 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: We're not privy to it. You know, how do I 634 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: get in that meeting? So? Uh, females way around two 635 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: pounds or female reindeers, so uh times nine rain year, 636 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: that's like eight hundred pounds of pure reindeer. So obviously 637 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: there's probably more biophysics that goes into this in terms 638 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: of like muscle capacity, pulling capacity, skeletal strength. I'm not 639 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: going to do any of that. It's creature kringle nous. 640 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: We don't have time. So how many seff rippists do 641 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: we need to equal this amount of reindeer heft? Sef 642 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: Rippis are only around eight to twelve pounds, so you'd 643 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: need a hundred and fifty to two hundred and twenty 644 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: five sef rippis tiny ponies to equal nine reindeer. So 645 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: you would get to hear the little toe toe steps 646 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: of two hundred tiny horses pulling uh Cave Santa's sleigh 647 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: or at least like these were not these were like 648 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: around fifty million years ago. Humans were not around at 649 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: this time, so Cave Santa would have to do some 650 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: kringle Man magic to bring this guy back. That's incredible. 651 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: And and I guess the naming situation is fun. You 652 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: get to pick a lot of names. Maybe it's too 653 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: many to pick right, there's you know, Clarence one, Clarence too, 654 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: Clarence three, Clarence four, the first name we pull. Yeah, 655 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: they're all clarances. I can't, I can't. I guess it 656 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: would eventually be like NASA where they just start numbering 657 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: the asteroids, you know, like there's too many asteroids. Man, 658 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? Tiny horse? Just one serial numbers, yeah, 659 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: just serial numbers on their butts. Poor poor little horses. 660 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they don't want to Maybe they don't want to fly, 661 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: creature kringle time slamming. They just want to hang out, 662 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: chill out and grasslands and skip around. I also, I'm 663 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: just really saying how pretty that herd probably is. It 664 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: probably looks like a flackup birds or something. Just that 665 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: made little guys, just a little guys, just a little 666 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: like just great, just so cute. I would love to 667 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: have a lap horse like this, just had it keep 668 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: in my lap, feel a little baby carrots, because that's 669 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: all could have because it's so small. I do I 670 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: want to see one try to pick up a whole 671 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: carrot and just thud. Little baby, little baby. It's so cute. 672 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: I love tiny horses. I love tiny horses. Bring back like. 673 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: I know that we have a bunch of like extinction 674 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: projects and stuff, and maybe it's unethical, but I don't care. 675 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: Bring back this horse. Yeah, do it. Come don't worried 676 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: about it. Come on. My My proposal for like government 677 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: funding is come on, tiny horse. Done just at the 678 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: the at I h or some huge government organization. You're 679 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: just poking somebody at the desk, like standing behind poke, 680 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 1: poke about. Well, before we go, we gotta play a 681 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: little game, and that game is called ghost Who Squawking 682 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: the Mystery Animal Sound game. Every week I choose mr 683 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 1: Animal sound, and you the listener, and you the guests, 684 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 1: try to guess squawking. The rules are it's any animal, 685 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: that's it. That's the rules. You gotta gets last week 686 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: mystery animal sound. The hint is this am I asking 687 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: a lot for you to guess this sound. So Alex, 688 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: can you guess who is making that sound? That is? 689 00:45:51,040 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: Spis it's a lot? Brought it back at such I 690 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: feel like it's doing something really busy with its hands 691 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: while it's doing that. That was the vibe I got. Um, 692 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, I'm imagining like tiny you know, you know, 693 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: like any especially of rodent that's good with its hands. 694 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: That's my guess. Interesting, it's wrong, but it's interesting. So 695 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: this is an axel attel. Congratulations to Jared im, Tiffany 696 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: In and Christina are who gets correctly. So this is 697 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: kind of a tricky one because axel attels aren't really vocal. 698 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: They don't even have vocal cords. So how it makeing 699 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: this squeak? Well, it can do a little squeak when 700 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: it comes to the surface to get a gasp of air. 701 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: So axel attles are aquatic. They're actually the neotonous form 702 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: of a salamander. They retain their juvenile characteristics throughout their 703 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: whole lifespan, never sort of more metamorphosized into adults. And 704 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: uh so they have gills, those like fluffy sideburns that 705 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: you see on an ax lottle. You know what an 706 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: ax a lottle looks like, right, Alex, Yeah, because it's 707 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: it's an amphibian, right or something. But yeah, it's got 708 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: that like low head and the little frills. Yeah. Yeah, 709 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: And so like it actually spends all of its life 710 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: in aquatic environments. But it does have a very sort 711 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: of simple set of lungs and it can like gulp 712 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: in air through its mouth. It's not very good at it, 713 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: but it will do that if it like kind of 714 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: needs a little extra air. Maybe that's not getting as 715 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: much air as it needs or enough oxygen as it 716 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: needs in the water, or it just kind of feels 717 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: like doing it, so it'll come up and get a 718 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: little gasp of air. And so the sound of that 719 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 1: squeak is that of air bubbling out of its mouth, 720 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: like when air comes out of a balloon or squeaky toy. 721 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: So it's not an intentional sound. It's just purely incidental 722 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: to the ax a lottle getting a little breath of air. 723 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: But it's like it is actually functioning like a little 724 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: squeaky toy. This is so there's a future episode of 725 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: secretly incredibly fascinating coming about rubber ducks. And so I've 726 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,919 Speaker 1: had like little squeaky bath toys really out of my mind. 727 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: Now I want an excel attle toy. That would be great. 728 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: Axcel Attles are the bath toys of the animal Kingdom. 729 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: Just don't squeeze them. Don't squeeze them. They won't like that. 730 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: Latm squeeze themselves exactly onto this week's mystery animals sound 731 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: the hint this is one cool chick, So Alec, can 732 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: you guess who is making that sound? One cool check? Okay, 733 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker 1: I should have known you'd bring up fair down typical 734 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: Katie with the birds. Uh, but yeah, it's so like 735 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: that noise it almost sudded likes or sounds. I know 736 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: that's not what it is, but it was like, you know, uh, 737 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: so I don't know. Yeah, probably a baby version of 738 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: some kind of tropical bird. Maybe that's not specific enough, 739 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: but you know, is that your final answer? Yeah? That is. Well, 740 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you if you're right or wrong, 741 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: because you'll find out on next episode of Creature feature 742 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: the world's Biggest cliffhanger. So, Alex, thank you so much 743 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: for joining me today. Where can the people find you? 744 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me? It's always great. Uh, and yeah, 745 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: I hope people enjoy my podcast Secretly Incredibly Fascinating, which 746 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: also should have a recent episode about snoopy Yeah, featuring 747 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: guest Katie Golden. That's out and that's me that's you. Yeah, 748 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's history and science and stories about why 749 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: something seemingly ordinary is amazing. And I'm also glad Patron's 750 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: picks Snoop because you know, folks love Snoopy. And also 751 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: it turns out there was a lot more there, a 752 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: lot of snoopets out there. Yeah. I think this show 753 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: is fantastic. I highly recommend it if you like this podcast. 754 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, I've been on a guest on it a 755 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 1: few times now. And yeah I am on the Snoopy 756 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: Snoopy Verse episode, so do check that out. Uh, and 757 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for listening. If you're enjoying 758 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: the show and you want to leave a rating or review, 759 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: hey they Hey, I would love that. I read all 760 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 1: of them and they make me happy. And uh, if 761 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: you have an answer to this week's mystery animal, sound 762 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: game or question or picture of your pet, you can 763 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: write to me at Creature Feature pot at gmail dot com. 764 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: And thank you so much to the Space Costics for 765 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: their super awesome song excel Alumina. Creature Feature is a 766 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts like the 767 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: one you just heard, visit the I Heart Radio app 768 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or Hey, guess what where have you listen to? 769 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: Your favorite shows and and people, happy, creature cringinal times. 770 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: Enjoy it. See you next Wednesday. 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