1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: You have an update on Evan Neal and will he 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: travel to Detroit? 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the players will travel. 4 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Evan is still in concussion protocol. We'll take mckeithan and 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: a shan Off. 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Pup today, so they'll be out here. 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do a ton out here, limited practice 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: with the travel time, move around a little bit, have 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: some seven on seven, some individual work, and then head 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: to Detroit. Any other injuries coming out of that, No, okay. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: Uh, we're k uh. Nacho had a little groin, so 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: we'll see where he's at and all good. 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's everybody's everybody's practicing today that can practice other 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: than Rider. 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: And Nacho yup, and then Evan. Obviously, what are they? 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: What are the qualities that drew you to is Campbell? 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: And how much of an impact you think you can 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: have on this offense? Well, I think time will tell. 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: But he's a good person who was a productive college player. 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Did a lot of work on him in college, and 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: then when he was out there at Indy. You know, 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: thought he had good skill set, liked him in college, 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: liked him at Indy. So good person. He's done a 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: nice shot for us. 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: I believe this is. 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: The first practice we've been at that you've been in here. 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys did any in the spring. 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think maybe one two. 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: Just the fields are soaked, so had any Yeah, they've 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: been in here. What have they said about the new field? 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: They said nice, softer, but yeah, no issues not gone. 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: With obviously defensive upgrading. Defensive tackle was an off season 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: emphasis for you guys. Was something particular about Ashawn Robinson 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: that you guys targeted him or I remember if memory, 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: certainly he came on a visit and then it still 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: took like a month. 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: To get the deal done. 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'd say he's you know, has good experience, 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: he's a big man, got good length, a nice job 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: versus a running game, and we'll get another good guy 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: that we thought would fit into our system. Well, every 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: practice it seems, you know, we're watching in Jalen Huts 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: hitting a big pass play. 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: What do you what do you make of that at 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: this point? 46 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's good. You know, he's made plays when 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: it's come his way. Still got a long way to go, 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: but he's had a productive few days here. 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: How much faster is he coming along or is he 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: coming along. I think you kind of think. I think 51 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: everybody's different. 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: I don't really have ever expectations when rookies come in 53 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: because I've been doing this for quite some time. I've 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: seen a variety of things. Just keep your head down, 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: keep brand, and there's a lot of things that are 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna come up that whether it's a mistake, a mental error. 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: You know, you hear one thing, you run a different thing, 58 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: and then when you have opportunities to make the plays. 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: But I'd say there's a a lot of room for growth. 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: Pawkins, when he played well, you gave him more first 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: team reps? How much this more for? I know he's 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: snuck and he's done some but all the stuff that. 63 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: We're giving these guys, it's based on what they earn. 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: So that's that's what we're doing. 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: Arry Slaty said to me that your system is difficult 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: for rookies to pick up for rookie rookie receivers. Is 67 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: that true? 68 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: And what's challenging about it? 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: Do you think? I don't know. 70 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Again, it's just it's such an an individual basis. I mean, 71 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: there's people that pick it up faster, people that it's 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: a little bit slow for that then it hits and 73 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: then they start going. I think everybody's different based on 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: how they learn, where they come from. I think the 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: biggest thing for us is not, you know, to be 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: instant evaluators when this guy can't get it. I mean, 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: you put a lot of research and time into trying 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: to bring people in that you think can learn the 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: material and things like that. But I think everybody's a 80 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: little bit different. So there's ts we've got to pull 81 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: it back. There's times where you can add more. 82 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: You know. I've had young rookies pick it up like this. 83 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: I've had ones that were struggling at the starter and 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: then started to pick it up. 85 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: I just you know, it's case by case. 86 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: What's your joint practice is philosophy for the starters? Are 87 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: you it seems like the popular thing in the NFL 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: has worked. The starter is really hard, and the joint 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 3: practices get controlled work and then not play them in 90 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: the game. Is that how you see it? 91 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: No, I mean we'll get to that down the road. 92 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: The coaching staff. I haven't talked to the coaching staff 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: about it. I went through some schedules today, but we'll 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: end up talking about that, you know, like we do 95 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: on Fridays, you know, and you guys asking Fridays about 96 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: where everybody's will end up doing that, you know the 97 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: day before. 98 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: Do you see the joint practices as beneficial? 99 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely for what. 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: Like for because it's controlled, or because. 101 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: Well again, a few times you're you're going to against 102 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: a different team, you get to see different matchups, you 103 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: get to see different schemes. You've been going against team 104 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: players for ten days or ten practices, so you know, 105 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: if you do it the right way, I think it's 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: it's a beneficial thing for you. We sell you on 107 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: on Friday or a Saturday rather get pretty mad about 108 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: some of those dead ball penalties. I think there was 109 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: two false starts at delay a game. 110 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't have those, right, I mean how much 111 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: does that piss you off? Just just even camp? Yeah 112 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: I can't have them. Yeah, which match? 113 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pat them on the back for having. 114 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: But I guess I could do a better job. 115 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: No, I guess my point is kind of sometimes early 116 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: in camp things can be ragged. Uh, look, there's gonna 117 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: be that, But you try to put as much pressure 118 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: on you know, everybody as you can, and you have 119 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: a level of expectation of you know, going out there 120 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: and trying to eliminate those pre snap things or post 121 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: snap things, and you know those are they're gonna happen, 122 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: and they're gonna happen no matter, no matter what you do, 123 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: but you you do your best to try to. 124 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Make sure that they don't. 125 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: Which matchup are you most excited about for the joint practice. 126 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: We'll see, I mean really all of them. You know, 127 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: it's just a different team, so you're going against different people. 128 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: We've talked about how Jalen has gotten deep a lot 129 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: in camp. On the other side of the coin, though 130 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: the safety's giving up the big plays, is that concern. Yeah, 131 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's just putting on one position. I 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of them, more good plays by Jailer, 133 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: a good route, So it's you know, again you're in practice, 134 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: so he's making the plays that come his way. But 135 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's a collective it's a collective thing. That again, 136 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: it's not can't do full speed or hit the quarterback 137 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So his job as you go 138 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: out there, get open, catch the ball. That's what he's 139 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: been doing. That's say, for the most part, which all 140 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: of these do you think make Eric Gray a good 141 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: possible returner and running back. I think he's got good 142 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: short space quickness, good balance, good vision. You know, he's 143 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: got some good moves in the open field. You know, 144 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: he's a one cut guy. He's but you know, a 145 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: young guy that I think has some talent to work with. 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: Now we've got to try to develop it, and you know, 147 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: we'll give. 148 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: Him ample opportunity in the preseason to return these return 149 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: to these balls. Is that where you really need to 150 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: evaluate a returner in preseason games more than anywhere else. Yeah, 151 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's live. You know, you'd like it to 152 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: be as windy as possible. Obviously it's not going to 153 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: be this week, but yeah, you know you try to 154 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: put him in as many different situations as you can. 155 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: That's a lonely spot back there. Yeah, you haven't had 156 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: a two more a designated like returner. You know some 157 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: guys teams have guys are basically that's that's their role. Sure? 158 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: Is that a belief thing? Is that just the way 159 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: it worked out? Like? 160 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: Do you would you do you want to have every 161 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: guy like basically being a position player. 162 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: No? 163 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: I think look, if you had you know, someone that 164 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: was an elite returner, you know, maybe you find a 165 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: spot for him. I think every roster is different, every 166 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: decision is different based on who you have and who's 167 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: competing out So it really doesn't matter one way or 168 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: not to me. You just try to find the best 169 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: player on your team for each position, including returner, but 170 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: whether it's a defensive tackle, an offensive guard, or receiver. 171 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: Our job as a coaching staff is to let those 172 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: guys compete and put the best guy out there that 173 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: we think is the guy that's gonna help us most. 174 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Has text done any returning, he probably could. That's a 175 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: good last one.