1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Will there be a rush to draft an edge rusher? 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Should there be? In a word, yes, welcome bird Gang. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: On today's show, Paul Calvic joins me, yes, wide receiver 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: is in need defensively, though there may be no greater 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: need than someone who can get after the quarterback. Plus 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: what is the price to move down from number four? 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven forty three, and it 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: starts now. 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: POA Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable? 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: so more hurry magic. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolo. 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: So I made the mistake during Tuesday's Red Sea Report 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: saying I had mock draft fatigue. So what happens, Paul? 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: I wake up Wednesday morning? And what do I see? 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Another mock draft? This one though this one, Paul, is difference. 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: I pay attention to this particular one. Really, Okay, there 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: are a handful of mock drafts of the million mock 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: drafts out there that I will look at, read, examine 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: and say, right, there might be some truth to this. Hmm. 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: Interesting. What merits a Craig griolou investment of his time 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: into a mock draft? 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: Do tell, well, if you've been doing it for what 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: forty plus years I believe, and actually started the industry, 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: and that would be Melchiper Junior gotch. I mean, if 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: there is one individual yep that actually may know what 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: he's talking about, specifically about these prospects, and he does 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: do his homework like a Daniel Jeremiah, there are a 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: handful that you can say, all right, this might be 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: a possibility, This might be a real, realistic possibility for 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: whatever team you follow. 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: You're right, he basically founded the industry's he would be like, 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: you know, the Steve Jobs of the personal computer. That's 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: what he is essentially. All right, So how wacky did 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: he get? Did he have a bunch of trades in 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: his first round? Because this is his final, mel kiper 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: point final, right, this is his version that he's taken 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: all the way up to Draft. 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Day four point zero two rounds Now, I don't think 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna be pleased with this mock draft, because yes, 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks do go one, two, three, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Drake May at number four, though Marvin Harrison Junior and 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Mel has been consistent since day one about MHJ writes, quote, 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: I just don't see Arizona passing on its chance to 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: take the top wide out in this class. He added, quote, 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has to get some help, especially with Mark 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: Keith Brown leaving in free agency. End of sentence into report, 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: And it's what most of the fan base wants to 53 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: have happened. You've been outspoken in your desire for the 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals to trade down, and I am perfectly accepted that 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: a trade down to eleven, twelve, thirteen is a realistic 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: possibility if the price is right. If the price is 57 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: not right, then you stick a pick and you take 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: the number one wide receiver and Dared I say, the 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: number one player in this draft at number four. 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: I just think another team is going to make up 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: the mind for maniasin fort. I think they'll make the 62 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: decision for him. What a coaches always say when there's 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: a position battle, I'm not making the decision the two 64 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: You are going to make my mind up for me 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: out on the field, I think a Denver, a Minnesota, 66 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: New York Giants who sent everyone except the janitor out 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: to Seattle for Michael Pennix's Pro Day. There are teams 68 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: that are seriously desperate for a future franchise quarterback. You 69 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: can't tell me the Denver Broncos going to go into 70 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: Week one with Jared Stidham. If they do, they won't 71 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: get a single primetime game. It's gonna be an absolute season, 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: will be a wash and a waste before it ever 73 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: kicks off. In Denver, they're coming up. It's just a 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: matter aware and for whom, and how much they're willing 75 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: to pay and what they have at their disposal. That's 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: why I think someone like a Minnesota is a better candidate, 77 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: because guess what they have assets in real time this year. 78 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: You don't have to wait like Denver because they've already 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: paid through the nose in the Russell Wilson fiasco. But 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: once again, if the Cardinals end up with Marvin Harrison Junior, absolutely, 81 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: I mean I won't be over here with just a 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: golf clap. I'll give it a standing ovation. 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Let's go. 84 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: If you're telling me that this guy could resemble a 85 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald and he could end up a first ballot 86 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer because he's that good as a receiver 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: at his position. Absolutely grab him at number four. I 88 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: won't have any complaints. My only point is there's no 89 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: deeper position group in this draft than receiver. And you 90 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: could still nab wide receiver one at twenty seven or 91 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: t up or if you end up with Minnesota's picks 92 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: at eleven or twenty three, or if you work with 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: the Giants, you could still up with Roma Dunes there 94 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: and Elik Neighbors. The more I watch them, Melik Neighbors 95 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: because immediately I don't watch a lot of LSU football, 96 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: he is something to behold as a talent. So I 97 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: truly believe there is a big three at that position. 98 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: And it's not just a number one wide receiver, just 99 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: a very good wide receiver late in the first round 100 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Day two to pair with a Michael Wilson, who is 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: a very good wide receiver. Maybe that's what this offense needs, 102 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: just another very good wide receiver that gets uplifted because 103 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: you have a Pro Bowl quarterback at your disposal. Now, 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: continuing on with this mock draft, because it is the 105 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: Vikings who do make a move with the Chargers at 106 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: number five and they select JJ McCarthy. To your point 107 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: about the Vikings, the Broncos, and the Raiders, those are 108 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: the three teams we keep mentioning as far as how 109 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: far down the Cardinals possibly would be willing to move 110 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: to still get a top tier talent. The Vikings make 111 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: a ton of sense. They have two first round picks. 112 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Broncos they have their own at twelve, They have no seconds, third, 113 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders have their own at thirteen, one second and 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: one third. Paul, I don't think either the Broncos or 115 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders have the draft capital to move up to 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: satisfy Monty Austin for it, because at this point those 117 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: two teams are now future first rounds. Twenty twenty five, 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Sounds good in thirty, but GM's head coaches, 119 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: their careers are on the line on Sundays the win 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: loss record, and I don't know too far down the 121 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: line how much a GM and a head coach are looking. Specifically, 122 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: when you got two first round picks staring at you 123 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: with your own for potential three first round picks, if 124 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: you do make that move with the Vikings. 125 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: And for all the speculation that Justin Jefferson could be 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 3: a potential part of the package, which I believe it 127 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: could actually be a possibility. You'd love to call Denver 128 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: and say, you know what, throw Patrick Surtan into that deal. 129 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: You don't have the picks, but you have cornerback one 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: and we'll go ahead and have that discussion. Now. Is 131 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: that feasible and realistic and plausible? Probably not from Denver's standpoint, 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: But again, what are you going to do for the 133 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: most important position in all of sports at quarterbacks? So 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: all right, if it's not Denver, if it's not the Raiders, 135 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: I do firmly believe Minnesota is very interested the New 136 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: York Giants at number six. They are sending their contingent 137 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: of people all over the NFL to all these pro days. 138 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: I think they're coming up the owners on the record. 139 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: But once again, if you want to get back to 140 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: the LA Chargers, you mentioned that that's very intriguing because 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: what are the LA Chargers and the Arizona Cardinals have 142 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: in common. A head coach who's run first, second, and 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: third in my opinion, Jim Harbaugh. What he's doing already? 144 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: The reports out of LA because they've had time to 145 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: get as a new coach, he's already been on the 146 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: field and he's already instituting the Harball way. And we 147 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: saw it for three years in San Francisco when they 148 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: went to three straight NFC Championships games, when they used 149 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: to run Frank Gore thirty times a game between the tackles. 150 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: Here they went after Gus Edwards. They're gonna play big 151 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: boy football, just like the Cardinals were a top five 152 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: running team a year ago, very physical team. So I 153 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: think if there are two teams apt to trade out 154 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: of that receiver spot. For example, if a team really 155 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: wants Marvin Arrison Junior, Roma Dunese Malik Neighbors, it would 156 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: be the Cardinals and the Chargers based on their head 157 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: coaches in the way they want to play football. To 158 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: your point, yes they value receiver, but I'm not so 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: sure they value it at number four or number five 160 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: in the draft. For that reason and for the fact 161 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: that the Cardinals are in such dire need of an 162 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 3: edge rusher and getting to the quarterback. And when Josh 163 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: Allen just got five years, one hundred and fifty million 164 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: from Jacksonville, Craig eighty eight million guaranteed, where else are 165 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: you going to get an edge player? So if the 166 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: Cardinals did to deal with Minnesota went down to eleven 167 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: and they were able to select from anywhere from Dallas 168 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: Turner to Jared Verse to Laato Latu who all those 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: guys to my knowledge reportedly have been in for top 170 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: thirty visits, then that seems more realistic to me right now. 171 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: I want to get back to that conversation on edge Rusher. 172 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: But to your point, as far as the price to 173 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: drop from four to eleven, twelve or thirteen, the reported 174 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: asking price for the number four pick, We've heard the speculation. 175 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: We've kind of seen it on certain mock draft. Daniel 176 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: Jeremio I think, was the first one to bring up 177 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: the vikings and to slash three first round picks. But 178 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: now we have it in writing. Armando Selgero, longtime NFL 179 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: reporter cover the Dolphins for a number of years he 180 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: now works for OutKick dot Com, saw this this morning. 181 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: He has it written, he has it sourced that the 182 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are telling teams that the price to move 183 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: out at number four is three first round picks. Nice, 184 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: you know. 185 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: What, absolutely it should be look at last year, look 186 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: at what happened. Cardinals took the risk they traded out 187 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: of number three, and guess what. The Houston Texans defight 188 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: all the odds, all the doubters, all the haters. The 189 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,239 Speaker 3: Houston Texans, who were the worst team in football twenty 190 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, and twenty two combined, somehow won a 191 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 3: playoff game, went from worse to first. And the Cardinals 192 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: ended up picking twenty seventh in this year's draft. And 193 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: we all thought it would be top ten at least maybe, 194 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: oh maybe, as we get greedy, it could be top five. 195 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 3: So there is inherent risk. And if you're solving the 196 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: quarterback question for another team, that's all some of these 197 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: teams need. Denver has a solid defense. Raiders had the 198 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: number one scoring defense as soon as Antonio Pierce took over. 199 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: Minnesota was a twelve or thirteen win playoff team the 200 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: year before. Kirk Cousins got hurt last season. So you 201 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: get a viable quarterback that's plug and play. And let's 202 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: face it, any team that's trading up for the franchise quarterback, 203 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: they believe they're answering that quarterback question. I'd say they're 204 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: not but they believe, and so you know what, you 205 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: leverage that hope, that belief that sometimes fox confidence that yeah, 206 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna be a playoff team, and we make this move. 207 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: And for that reason, guess what the price increases from 208 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: a year ago. 209 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: And it's not a high price to ask for three 210 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: first round picks. A year ago, the Cardinals nearly got 211 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: three first round picks from the Texans. They got two first, 212 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: a second, and a third. Twenty twenty one, the forty 213 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: nine ers to move up to number two from twelve 214 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: got three or sent three first round picks and a 215 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: third to the Dolphins to get that second overall pick. 216 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: So this idea that three first round picks, I really 217 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: I keep telling myself though it's two first round picks 218 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: because you're just swapping your own so it's you have 219 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: three total. But it's it's not too much, and it 220 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: might not even be enough. If you're Monti Austin Ford 221 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: and you have that belief in Marvin Harrison Junior or 222 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: whomever you like outside of a quarterback, whether that's an 223 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: offensive lineman or some other position, this is what it's 224 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: going to take. And this is this is I put 225 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: that for sale sign in my front yard and I'm 226 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: not coming down at all because I know I have 227 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: a sure thing or what I believe is a sure 228 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: thing at wide receiver in Marvin Harrison Junior. So make 229 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: it worth my time to say, you know what, I 230 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: am going to sell this house and move down the street. 231 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: And look, that's the default. What a default plan that 232 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: maniasa board has the best receiver we've come out of 233 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: a draft in the last five years, maybe ten years, 234 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: in Marvin Rrison Junior. So he can look any team 235 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: straight in the eye and tell him I'll take Marvin 236 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: Rrison Junior. Just watch me do it unless you meet 237 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: my asking price. It's sort of like when the real 238 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: estate market was at its height and there were people 239 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: just knocking on doors, Hey, I like your house, what's 240 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: your price? And people would name their price and in 241 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: a lot of cases they would get it. That's where 242 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: maniasin Fort is right. Now. Here's here's a little bit 243 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: of the rube. I disagreed with Darren Urban and we 244 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: went at it on Cardinals Underground. Darren is emphatic in 245 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: his belief that THU shalt not trade that pick at 246 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: number four until you are on the clock. 247 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 248 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: Well, but wait a minute. That hall that Miami got 249 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: from San Francisco where the Niners went from twelve to 250 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: three and screwed it up by taking Trey Lance three 251 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: first round picks, and yes, one of them was a 252 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: pick swap in the first round. That trade was executed 253 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: a month or so before the draft. 254 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: The difference there, though, is you move up to number 255 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: two overall, so there's only one team ahead of you. 256 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: We No, Trey Lance was three. Remember it was a 257 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence Zach Willson. That's true, Trey Lance three. 258 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: All right, So now that's you got to like three 259 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this scenario, you move up to four, you've 260 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: got to like four quarterbacks and hope that the one 261 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: that you really like is available. That's why I think 262 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: you wait to see who is available, if you're really 263 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: willing to add that sweetener, if you will three first 264 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: round picks in addition to whatever. That's why I think 265 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: you kind of wait and see, and then deadline spurred decisions. 266 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: We know that you're on the clock. Manni says, all right, 267 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: you've got ten seconds, because that clock is moving, You've 268 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: got ten seconds. This is my again, this is my 269 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: asking price. All right, okay, sorry, we're moving on. And 270 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: I think that's that's why you wait until you're on 271 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: the clock. 272 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: Well, isn't that a Denver or Minnesota or Vegas problem? Though? 273 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: If to see which quarterback is going to be there? 274 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, if Mani gets his three first 275 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: round picks today, do you pull the trigger on that 276 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: bird in the hand versus two in the bush? 277 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: If you're the Cardinals, yes, But if you're the Vikings 278 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: or Broncos, why because you don't know what you don't 279 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: know what quarterback is going to be available. 280 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: Sure, My response to that would be twofold one, you're desperate. 281 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: Any of those four guys is better than Jared Stidham, 282 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: And I think we would all agree with that. At 283 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: least a prospect thereof you can sell the this season 284 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: and next season at least to your fan base, Otherwise 285 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: they might be showing up to storm the stadium if 286 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: you're starting your year with Jared Stidham. And then number 287 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: two would be guess what you're looking at? A price 288 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: that maybe even goes up further if you're Denver and 289 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: one of those teams, because there are at least four 290 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: teams ye for that fourth spot. It is the pivot 291 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: point in the draft. And if you're maniausen for it, 292 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: what are the odds the LA Chargers might trade out? 293 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: Could the LA Chargers undermine you on Draft Day? Could 294 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: the LA Chargers to a lot of those teams that 295 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: are pursuing the fourth pick overall? No, no, no, no, do 296 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: business with us. Stay away from Mani and the Arizona Cardinals. 297 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: Force them to take Marvin Arrison Junior. Once again, not 298 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: a bad default plan. Okay, darn it, But you know 299 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: for all this noise that Jim Harbaugh is gonna go 300 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,239 Speaker 3: receiver because they got rid of Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. 301 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: Don't be so sure about that. I could easily see 302 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: him bolstering his offensive line and going Joel because that's 303 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: the sort of ball, that's the philosophy that Jim Harbaugh 304 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: believes in. That's what he's already been espousing with his 305 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: players in LA that we're going to break you in 306 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, We're going to out physically you. And 307 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: so just with that in mind, if you hear three 308 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: first round picks from a team and I'm Mania support, 309 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: I seriously consider pulling the trigger. 310 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: Now that I understand, I just from the other side 311 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: of it, why a team would do it when you 312 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: don't quite know who might be available and how you 313 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: rank those particular quarterbacks. But going back to our conversation 314 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: what you brought up as far as the edge rusher 315 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: and moving down, mel kiper junior again, two round mock draft, 316 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: his last mock draft before the NFL Draft in two 317 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: weeks from Thursday. No trades for the Cardinals. So you 318 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: go to twenty seven Darius Robinson, edge rusher out of 319 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: Missouri six five, two eighty five, first team All SEC, 320 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: eight and a half sacks, had a very good Senior 321 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: Bowl Week, high end comp that I've been reading Cameron Jordan, 322 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: if that's the comp and if that's the type of player. 323 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: He was a defensive lineman, defensive end at Missouri. So 324 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: the question is is hen handing the dirt with the 325 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals or is he a stand up edge rusher like 326 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: Iszamon Collins, Bjojo Lari. But that would that would answer 327 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: the question as far as edge rusher is concerned. And 328 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: then second round, thirty fifth overall, you get your cornerback 329 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Iowa States, TJ. Tampa, good size, six ' one ran 330 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: a four five forty at his pro day. Wide receiver 331 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: out of high school, switched to cornerback, but he's got 332 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: twenty nine starts in his career. So there's your edge 333 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: rush cornerback answers late first round, early second round, and 334 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: you still get that number one playmaker at pick number four. 335 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: And look, that easily could transpire, There's no doubt about it. 336 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: The problem with that scenario is who exactly is your 337 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: edge guy now? Darius Robinson at two eighty five. Is 338 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: he vers along the defensive front, Yes, but he's not 339 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: going to be a premier pass rusher off the edge, 340 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: at least not in a traditional sense. He's an interesting 341 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: player because he had a great year sort of unknown 342 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: Missouri football, but they had a great year as well, 343 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: first team SEC, so internally they knew what he was 344 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: all about. Went to the senior ball, really stood out. 345 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 3: As you mentioned his stock, it really rose, and then 346 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: also went to the combine and kind of lackluster some 347 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: of the measurables, some of the times and other drills 348 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: that he posted, and all of a sudden he seems 349 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: to be climbing again because once again people are going 350 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: back to the film, and so from all indications, you 351 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: know dude can play. There's no doubt about it. It 352 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: looks like he's gonna be a first round pick. Could 353 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: he be coming to the Cardinals because he is versatile 354 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: and that's something they really value in a defensive linement. 355 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I do see that as a good fit and 356 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Again, you brought up Leatu Latu planned thirty 357 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: visit for Wednesday, according to reports, you had Chop Robinson 358 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: in reportedly earlier this week. Dallas Turner has a planned 359 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: visit before the draft. So now all of a sudden, 360 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: we had that run of wide receivers. Now we've got 361 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: that run of edge rushers that this team is looking at. 362 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: Because to me, it is you address defensive line and 363 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: free agency. So right now, defensively, there's no question edge 364 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: rusher who was getting after the quarterback? The number one 365 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: question mark for this team going into next season, that 366 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: is who's your guy? Is it Zavian Collins, Bijoujulari, Dennis 367 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: Gardek or is it someone else. They have not addressed 368 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: that position at all to date. They re signed Jesse Luketta. 369 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: It's more of a special team's depth guy. But really 370 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: focusing on who is that guy? This season? I don't 371 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: know if the Cardinals have won, and if there isn't 372 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: that move to add an edge rusher. Does that say 373 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: something about how this coaching staff in front office look 374 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: at getting after quarterbacks. Thirty three sacks. It didn't seem 375 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: to bother Jonathan Gannon. We was asked about it late 376 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: last season. 377 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: How could it not though he went from the defensive 378 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: coordinator of an Eagles team the year before, then went 379 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: to a Super Bowl and posted seventy sacks, fifteen more 380 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: than any other team in twenty twenty two, and then 381 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: he became the head coach of a team that had 382 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: one sack over the final six games, and everybody now 383 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: it's when Justin Field stepped out of bounds. So you 384 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: got to figure internally, it's definitely a high need. There's 385 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: a lot of urgency attached to it, but you can't reach. 386 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: You just can't do it. And guess what's almost nearly 387 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: as much of a need. Defensive tackle Byron Murphy, the 388 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: second has been attached to the Cardinals in a lot 389 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 3: of mock drafts. I could easily see that whether it's 390 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: at thirteen, whether it's at twenty three somewhere in there. 391 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how far he's gonna fall. There a 392 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: very few game wrecking difference making defensive tackles in this draft. 393 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 3: So for example, if the Cardinals swing a deal, they 394 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: go to eleven, twelve or thirteen, I could see easily 395 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 3: Byron Murphy. The second could be that dude, if they 396 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: really believe he's that sort of elite defensive tackle. Because 397 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 3: guess what, and virtually every run defense metric you finished 398 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: dead last, so you need to address that. 399 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: Well, what did defensive line coach Derek LeBlanc tell you 400 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: and Wolf last week on The Big Red? Rage asked 401 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: about justin Jones and Blow and Nichols they can rush 402 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback, the ability not only from inside but maybe 403 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: outside a little bit, the versatility depending on if it's 404 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: a three four or four to three. However many defensive 405 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: linemen are on that line of scrimmage. Can you get 406 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: after the quarterback with just those three or those four? 407 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: And that outside linebacker edge rusher is more as a 408 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: set the edge kind of guy drop in the coverage 409 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: or becomes that extra guy. But maybe you're expecting more 410 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: from Jones and Nichols to get to the quarterback more often. 411 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: And what did Cardinals pass rushers not have a year ago? 412 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: They didn't have that Pro Bowl caliber defensive tackle automatically 413 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: commanding double team. Think of what Aaron Donald did for 414 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: everyone who played with Aaron Donald, the Leonard Floyd's of 415 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: the world. Last year it was Byron Young and Kobe 416 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: Turner who out of nowhere had great seasons. I'm guessing 417 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 3: a lot of that had to do with the fact 418 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: that ninety nine always commanded a double team, and quite 419 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: often a triple team. So if you get if Byron 420 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: Murphy the second is that kind of guy who commands 421 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 3: an automatic double team in the interior d line all 422 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: of a sudden, It's funny how a Zavon Collins, a 423 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 3: Dennis Gardak, a Bgo Jalai, all of a sudden have 424 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: a cleaner path to the quarterback because of all the 425 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: attention that's paid to the interior defensive line, not only 426 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: the free agent additions, but if you can get that stud, 427 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: that blue chipper in this draft, you know what, that 428 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: in a roundabout way helps your sack totals in the edge. 429 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: Guys. Is that why Jonathan Gannon at the Annual League 430 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: meeting had some high praise for Zavon Collins going into 431 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: a year two as an edge rusher because they know 432 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: what they have at defensive line. Do they think Collins 433 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: o Julari will have an easier time to get to 434 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback and those sack numbers will go up? This 435 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals team is not just the sack number. I know, 436 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: I know we get caught up in that a lot, 437 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: but this defense had the second highest opposing quarterback rating 438 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: and the second highest opposing quarterback completion percentage last season. Yeah, 439 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: that are two indications that you are not affecting the 440 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: quarterback at all. So, yes, sacks are nice, but are 441 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: you pressuring the quarterback? Are you hurrying his throws in 442 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: completions interceptions? That is what we didn't see last season. 443 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, affecting the quarterback, getting him off his spot, rushing 444 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: his decision making. Look what a Chris Jones did against 445 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: Brock Purdy in one of the pivotal moments of the 446 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Right didn't get to him, but he rushed 447 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 3: that decision and he wasn't able to find a wide 448 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 3: open receiver for what could have been a Super Bowl 449 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 3: winning touchdown drive. And Chris jo was a difference. Well, 450 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: how he went unblocked, we have no idea, but that's 451 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: another story. And you saw him get paid Mondo money. 452 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: So yes, absolutely, you got to get to the quarterback more. 453 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: Brock Purdy was way too clean in two games against 454 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: the Cardinals, Matthew Stafford had way too much time and 455 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: two games against the Cardinals. Did they run the ball 456 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: with Christian McCaffrey and Kyraen Williams. Absolutely they did. But 457 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 3: those quarterbacks they were upright far too often and had 458 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: way too much time to go through the progressions and 459 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: find second, third, and fourth options at time. So you 460 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: got to figure out a way to speed up that 461 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: process in getting to a quarterback and making it that 462 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: much more difficult. 463 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon late last season January fifth, asked about the 464 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: lack of sex, quote, affecting the quarterback is one of 465 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: our core principles on defense. You want to hit and 466 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: affect the quarterback. He did acknowledge though, that sacks aren't 467 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: a winning stat, which I agree, But at the same time, 468 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: if you have a completion percentage against you that almost 469 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: is sixty nine percent and a quarterback rating of one 470 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: oh two point nine, those aren't winning stats. As a defense. 471 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: So and he always goes back to it takes all 472 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: eleven that Russian coverage, coverage and rush. Do you not 473 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: have the lower completion percentage because your cornerback coverage wasn't 474 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: great or was it because there was a lack of 475 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: a pass rush or vice versa. So that issue defensively 476 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: is something that you hope has been addressed defensive line wise, 477 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: and then now what happens in the draft, and then 478 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: pay maybe after the draft. As far as additional needs, 479 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: if you don't get that edge guy or cornerback, I 480 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: do think you still need a veteran cornerback added to 481 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: this team. Now that Antonio Hamilton is with the Atlanta Falcaus, 482 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: you do want someone else in there besides Sean Murphy Bunting. 483 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: You want a little bit more experience in there. I 484 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: think that would be the one move that definitely needs 485 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: to get made after the draft. 486 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 3: And you know what, there are four legit starting corners 487 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: who are on the market right now, still in free agency. 488 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: Stefan Gilmour with Dallas last year. Now he's aged thirty three, 489 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: he's probably looking for big time money. As a former 490 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: NFL Defensive Player of the Year, four time Pro bowler. 491 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: We get it. Steven Nelson, who was the starting corner 492 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: for Houston last year age thirty one, but he started 493 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: sixteen out of seventeen games, had four picks for the 494 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: Texans a year ago. Adri Jackson for the Giants, he 495 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: was their number one corner age twenty eight. He played 496 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 3: fourteen games last year. And then you had a Kello 497 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: Witherspoon for the Rams, big corner six two. Every time 498 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: you see Witherspoon, dang, that guy's a dude. 499 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Six to two. 500 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: He started all seventeen games for the Rams last year. 501 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: So there are free agents out there who would be 502 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: plugged and play depending on what happens in this draft. 503 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: And honestly, you need another free agent corner in some 504 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: capacity to go along with Sean Murphy Bunting. And you 505 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: figure a Day one corner you're gonna take, at the 506 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 3: very worst, the top round two a corner in this draft. 507 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: If year there's a Cardinals, pair them up with Garrett Williams, 508 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 3: and then you hope one of those young guys from 509 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: last year really emerges and takes that next step. Key 510 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: Trell Clark, Starling Tom one of those sort of guys 511 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: But as a defense, the Cardinals right now remind me 512 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 3: of those days before Chandler Jones. They need that pass rusher. 513 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: Other offensive coordinators have to account for, have to start 514 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: their game plan by saying, we have to neutralize fifty 515 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: five and guess what, he's gonna get chipped. He's gonna 516 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: get a double team all game, and then that trickles 517 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 3: down through the rest of the Cardinals defense and guys 518 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: are able to eat. Because Chandler Jones is getting so 519 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 3: much attention when he was in his prime and having 520 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 3: seventeen to nineteen SAX seasons, Cardinals don't have that guy 521 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 3: right now, and consequently they don't have an offensive coordinator 522 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: game planning accordingly and then able other guys able to 523 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 3: get free. So if you can add that player, it 524 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: has so much more benefit than just that player's line 525 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: in the box score. 526 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: Well, how many times have we been in this studio 527 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: and we've got Drew Stanton to our right or to 528 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: our left, and he talks about what a quarterback looks 529 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: for when he breaks the huddle. It's not where the cornerbacks. 530 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: It's all right, where's that edge rusher? Where is fifty five? 531 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: Where is forty? One where whatever number it is, who 532 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: is that alpha and the front seven Cardinals don't have that. 533 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: Now is that a prerequisite in order to win? No, 534 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: but it certainly makes it a heck of a lot easier, 535 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: especially late in games when that quarterback is worried about 536 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: whomever it is. Can that be Zaban? Can that be 537 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: o Jlari? I don't know, certainly haven't seen enough from 538 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: either one of those guys. But if you could get 539 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: whether that is Darius Robinson or Chop Robinson, Dallas Turner, 540 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: late Tu Latsu, those are the names that the Cardinals 541 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: potentially have at their disposal, whether that's early eleven, twelve, thirteen, 542 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: or late in the twenties. Because we've talked about this before. Yeah, 543 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: there are thirty two first round picks, but judging by 544 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: all the buzz, sounds more like sixty four. Not everyone's 545 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: going to hear their name called on day one. Someone 546 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: is going to drop. There is a position group that 547 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: is going to drop. Who knows. The Cardinals might be 548 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: lucky even at twenty seven, that there is an edge rusher, 549 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman, a cornerback that falls into their laps 550 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: that they weren't expecting. Then all of a sudden, Yeah, 551 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: you've got your playmaker at four. Now you've got your 552 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: stud defensive player later at twenty seven. 553 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: Let's say the Cardinals do a deal with Minnesota. They 554 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: end up with eleven, twenty three, and twenty seven. At 555 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: the very least, they end up with an edge player. 556 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: They end up with that corner. They end up with 557 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: a receiver in round one and whatever order you want, 558 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: and then a top round two at thirty five. Oh, 559 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: one of those seven or eight franchise tackles falls out 560 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: of the first round. Could definitely see that that is 561 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: the other position group that is totally loaded. That a 562 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: top round two. If Jordan Morgan out of Arizona, for example, 563 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: that eighth tackle is there. One of those top seven 564 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: guys is still there. Absolutely, I could see many assin 565 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: Ford going that direction. But to your point about pass rush, 566 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: we saw Eli Man in the New York Giants win 567 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: two Super Bowls with an unbelievable front four, front seven, 568 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: getting to the quarterback, getting to Tom Brady. That's all 569 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: they needed, essentially, that's what they hung their hat on. 570 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: If I'm the Las Vegas Raiders and I just added 571 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins to Max Crosby and that crew, and once 572 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: again they had the number one scoring defense the second 573 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: half of last season. After Antonio Pearce came on, you 574 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: have Gardner Minshew, Okay, Aidan O'Connell, can you say the 575 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: hashtag ceiling. Both guys have a ceiling. So if I'm 576 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: the Raiders and I have Max Crosby and Christian Wilkins 577 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: in their prime and I'm paying them big money, you 578 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: got to figure out quarterback. To me, that's a sleeper 579 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: team because the two organizations have had a long standing, 580 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: pretty good relationship, the Raiders and the Cardinals, the two 581 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: desert dwellers. I do still have my eye on the 582 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: Raiders as being a possible trade partner for all to 583 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: talk about Minnesota and Denver and the Giants. I firmly 584 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: believe the Raiders are in the mix. 585 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: Just don't think they have a enough draft capital unless 586 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: you're going into the future or you look at their 587 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: roster and I don't have it in front of me, 588 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: but you're right, okay, well throw in this player or 589 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: that player, because that would certainly help. If you don't 590 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: have the draft capital. How you moving up from thirteen 591 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: to four. 592 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: That's drop that in front of you. Again, what do 593 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: the Raiders have? 594 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: The Raiders have thirteen, they have one second and one third. 595 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's yeah, that maybe get you to ten. 596 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 3: Gotcha? 597 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: Maybe ten? No, you're right, unless you throw in, you know, 598 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: a future twenty twenty five and then all right, hey, 599 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: look at our roster. Pick out some name that's a 600 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: starter and we'll throw that in there. 601 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: It is. 602 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: It takes a lot, especially if you're eleven, twelve, and thirteen, 603 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: to move into the top five or top six. It's 604 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: a massive jump. Yeah, compared to going from thirty to twenty. 605 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, how patient are you? Would you be willing to 606 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: wait for first round picks in future drafts? That is 607 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: a big question. So, and it's a great point reverse engineer. 608 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: It does not look like the Raiders would add enough 609 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: in the vault to be able to hand over to 610 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: Mantiassa Ford. But we'll see. Maybe they make moves prior 611 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: to the draft, so like Minnesota did. Obviously Minnesota went 612 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: after and now they have eleven and twenty three with 613 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: designs on moving up. 614 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: Mentioned that lat Too reportedly is in for a visits 615 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: on this Wednesday, the former UCLA player. Big question though 616 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: for lat Too and it's a question that the training 617 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: staff and the doctors. If they say yes, then I'm good. 618 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: But you missed two seasons because of a neck injury, 619 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: you are medically retired by Washington, miss two seasons, come 620 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: back and then have a standout year at UCLA where 621 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: you have the PAC twelve Defensive Player of the Year. 622 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: Also name the nation's top defensive end and overall lineman 623 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: if teams, because I could see some teams say yes, 624 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: he's okay, and other teams say yeah, nope, too much 625 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: of a risk, especially when potentially one hit and all 626 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden your career is done. So that's the 627 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: one caveat when you talk about lot too, the medical, 628 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: and that is supersedes anything else. I don't care how 629 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: talented you are, what your numbers were at UCLA, what 630 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: are those team doctors saying. 631 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: And to your point that you know what, there are 632 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: thirty two first round picks, and seemingly twice that many 633 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: players who are supposedly allegedly going to go in round 634 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: one lat two could be that guy falls out just 635 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: based on the medical, just based on a reluctance to 636 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: take the risk. However, ends up in round two, especially 637 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: if the Cardinals end up with an extra round two pick, 638 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: they have three in the third round. He's not gonna 639 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: fall that far. But at thirty five you take a 640 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: chance on lat two because he fell out of the 641 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: first round, and then you have a whole night to 642 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: think about it going into Friday after that Thursday round one. Yeah, 643 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 3: that's not inconceivable considering his medical history. He was out 644 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: of football for over a year and then had to 645 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: get cleared again by a specialist in LA and went 646 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: from dubbed UCLA. 647 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, player with question marks, go back to Robert KIMDCCI. Yeh, 648 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: huge question mark. But as you keep falling and all 649 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you're late in the round. Yes, 650 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: it's a risk, and the Cardinals pulled the trigger. Didn't 651 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: work out, but the risk was lessened because all of 652 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, Kimdeci is available at the end of the 653 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: first round as opposed to a top ten pick. And 654 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: that's not that had nothing to do with medical his 655 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: other stuff surrounding him. We've seen it with other players 656 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: as well, whether that's off the field issues or medical questions, 657 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of those medical questions Paul pop up 658 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,959 Speaker 1: on draft day all of a sudden, it's like, wait, 659 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: why is this player still in the green room? And 660 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: then there's that report from Adam Schefter or Ian Rapaport, Well, 661 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: there's concerned about his left foot, or there's a back issue, 662 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: or there's a neck issue. Is like, oh, I hadn't 663 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: heard that before eating up to the draft. 664 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 3: In hindsight, the whole the reports that the detch fell 665 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: out that window in college, that was sort of foreshadowing 666 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: as to what happened to him on draft night. But 667 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 3: you know what, even though you got him the end 668 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 3: of the first round, guess what, Ultimately it was a 669 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 3: wasted pick. Did he have all the talent in the world, 670 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 3: Yes he did. Did it ever materialize and get traction 671 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: in the NFL? Was he ever a productive player? 672 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: No? 673 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: And so there was one game, one game only at 674 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 3: the Chargers in that soccer stadium, and for one game 675 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 3: he looked like Aaron Donald and you can check the 676 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 3: box score and you can watch the film. You never, 677 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 3: guys saw that before and you never saw it again. 678 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: Therein is the inherent risk in the NFL draft. There's 679 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: what you see on film, but there's what you have 680 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: to assess in the mind. In the heart, and that's 681 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: what makes it so risky. The defensive lineman for Texas 682 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 3: who ended up on the wrong side of that DUI 683 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 3: arrest to Andre Sweat, Yeah, not good. 684 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: Not good. 685 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 3: There is a massive human who was the Big twelve 686 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 3: defensive lineman of the year. What do you do if 687 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: you're an NFL GM with that sort of information? 688 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: By the way, going back to night one of the drafts, 689 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: are you prepared, Paul? If the Cardinals do not select 690 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: the fan favorite with that fourth overall pick, it's another position. 691 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: Dare I say it's a trade down? And you're out 692 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: there hosting, as you do annually, the draft party at 693 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: the Great Lawn outside State Farm Stadium Thursday, April twenty fifth, 694 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: four to night. Admission parking free. You do need tickets. 695 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: Go to Asycardinals dot com forward Slash Draft Party. It 696 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: is hosted by Paul calvic I gotta throw that in there. 697 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: But are you prepared because as you're sitting up there 698 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: on the stage and you typically you have historically gotten 699 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: the first in state, dare I say, local interview with 700 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: that first round draft pick. If it is not Marvin 701 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior, Paul, are you prepared? Nothing against you but 702 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: you will be booed. I need to take covers that 703 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: we see. I'm gonna bring a big lineman up on 704 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: stage and then hide behind them if they if they 705 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: neglect Marvin Harrison Junior, right, Will Hernandez with you? That's right, 706 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: that would be no one will even see me and 707 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: no one even see me standing behind big Will, that's 708 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: for sure, Polly PENCILNK. 709 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 3: You give me. Well, look, if I'm not prepared, it's 710 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: my own fault because I've had plenty of experience the 711 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: last two years. Twenty twenty one Hollywood Brown Trade, you know, 712 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: and then in twenty twenty two that is you know, 713 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: then last year obviously trading down and the whole thing 714 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 3: going from three to twelve and back up to six. 715 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 3: And so there's been plenty of intrigue and as we'd 716 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 3: like to stay up on the stage. The NFL Draft 717 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: is the original reality TV. This this stuff unfolds in 718 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 3: real time. You really have no true idea what's coming. 719 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: All the speculation, so you go from the mock draft 720 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: to the real draft and it's great stuff. It's brought 721 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: to you by Arizona four Dealers. There's great you know, 722 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 3: everyone's representing as you mentioned, we do the uplink to 723 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 3: the draft center this year in Detroit. You hear from 724 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 3: the first round pick, you hear from the decision makers, 725 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 3: whether it's MANI, JG. Michael Bidwell. We've had all the 726 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: above over the years at different times, and so yeah, 727 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 3: come on out and join us. Usually the weather is 728 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 3: stellar this time of year, and you're out on the 729 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: great lawn at sunset. It's great. 730 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: Come see Paul. Oh yeah, that might be you know, 731 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals players, cheerleaders, big red. But come see Paul. 732 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 3: As they tell me, just get the ball to the playmakers. Okay, 733 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: I am a game manager, and I have no problem 734 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 3: with that. Okay, Brock Purty ain't no game manager. You're 735 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 3: truly game manager. Get the ball to the playmakers and 736 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 3: get out of the way. 737 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: Two weeks from Thursday, April twenty fifth, four to nine, 738 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: good Easycardinals dot Com forward Slash Draft party the Cardinals 739 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: right now with eleven picks four and twenty seven. We'll 740 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: see if there are additional first round picks added, if 741 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: there is a trade down. Otherwise, the Cardinals just stick 742 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: a pick and Paul gets a chance to interview. Dare 743 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: I say, maybe the best player and the draft. If not, well, 744 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: you'll pivot. 745 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: Hey, there's a good chance we might do three interviews 746 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 3: in the first round. If the Cardinals trade down, there'll 747 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 3: be three first round picks to hear from. 748 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun. Good Aisycardinals dot com 749 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 1: forward slash Draft party for more information. And on that note, 750 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals 751 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 752 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amhadro, 753 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher, Paul Calvis, I'm Craig real Lou. 754 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.