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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm back back

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Speaker 1: from Jacksonville, suiting up here with Garrett to talk about

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Speaker 1: the ravens twenty three to seven win over the Jags.

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Speaker 1: Dive into the tape and talk about what's new with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Garrett, this is a huge win, first of all,

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Speaker 1: to put the Ravens in really good playoff positioning. They

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Speaker 1: clinch their spot and they have the best odds of

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Speaker 1: getting the first round by winning the division.

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Speaker 2: They're in good shape.

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Speaker 1: And they did it by a lot of really good

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Speaker 1: play across the board and we're going to highlight some

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Speaker 1: of that today. And one thing I want to start

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Speaker 1: with here is the Ravens run game right, And I

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Speaker 1: think what's interesting about this team is that they keep

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Speaker 1: finding different ways to win and against the Jags, they

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Speaker 1: really grind it out the second half of this game

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Speaker 1: on the ground. So the Ravens ran for two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty one yards in the game. Two hundred and

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Speaker 1: four of those came in the second half. For two

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Speaker 1: hundred yards in any half in any game, that's a

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Speaker 1: good game, two hundred and a half.

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Speaker 3: You know what John Harbaugh said during his interview. Coming

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Speaker 3: out of the locker room at halftime, we'd like to

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Speaker 3: get the ground game going a little bit. Mission accomplished,

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Speaker 3: They got a rolling and what I really liked about

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Speaker 3: it is that when you mentioned the fact that they

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Speaker 3: can win in a variety of different ways, they can

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Speaker 3: also run the ball in a variety of different ways. Now, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: as we're going to talk about, some of that was

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Speaker 3: by necessity with the injury to Keaton Mitchell. But the

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Speaker 3: Ravens have a bunch of different ways that they can

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Speaker 3: attack you on the ground, and I think that's one

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Speaker 3: of the beauties of this offense is that they can

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Speaker 3: play ground and pound. They got Gus to bus Lamar

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Speaker 3: is still dynamics, so the quarterback run design run is

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Speaker 3: still certainly a part of the is certainly a big

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Speaker 3: part of the offense. I think you have Justice who's

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Speaker 3: kind of a bit of both. You know, he can

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Speaker 3: run between the tackles, but he also iss goot out

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Speaker 3: of the backfield. He brings a little bit of speed,

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Speaker 3: and so you have these guys who all bring something

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Speaker 3: a little bit different to the equation, and it makes

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Speaker 3: us a game really hard to stop.

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Speaker 1: So I thought, what was notable and looking at the

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Speaker 1: film was the adjustments that the Ravens made in the

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Speaker 1: run game to really get it going. In the first half,

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Speaker 1: the Jags are really crashing down on their from their

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Speaker 1: defensive ends, very aggressive in the backfield. We're not paying

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of attention or respect to Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: as a runner pulling that ball out and running. In

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Speaker 1: the second half, you saw the Ravens run the ball

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Speaker 1: more from under center. Lamar Jackson was getting under center

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Speaker 1: and it was more just a traditional run game drop

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Speaker 1: back to hand it off, let's go get it. There

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Speaker 1: wasn't as much pulling blockers. The Ravens were basically getting

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Speaker 1: the ball in the hands of their running backs and

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Speaker 1: attacking the middle of the line of scrimmage faster. That

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Speaker 1: negated some of those edges that were closing in on

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Speaker 1: the Ravens run game. Also, Lamar Jackson was making them

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Speaker 1: pay more in the second half, and once he starts

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Speaker 1: beating those edges to the edge defenders to the outside,

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Speaker 1: now that makes them pause for a second. Now I

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Speaker 1: have to respect Lamar Jackson running the ball, which I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you ever forget that, but they were

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Speaker 1: reminded of it in one play in particular, Lamar. Early

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Speaker 1: in the game, they had a formation with Isaiah Lakely

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Speaker 1: in the backfield next to Gus Edwards. They crashed down

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Speaker 1: tackle for no gain. Later in the game, Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: beats that crashing edge around the edge very next play.

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Speaker 1: You see the same alignment, same play as earlier, and

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Speaker 1: this time those edges are like wh right, a second

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Speaker 1: hold up and you see Gus Edwards gash them for

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Speaker 1: a twenty plus yard game gain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean with Lamar, it's really been interesting with him

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Speaker 3: this year because he has taken kind of a back

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Speaker 3: seat and the running department compared to what he had done,

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Speaker 3: certainly earlier in his career. Now it's not to say

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Speaker 3: that he hasn't been running the ball. He has seven

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty one yards on the ground this season,

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Speaker 3: but Sunday's game was his second best rushing total of

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Speaker 3: the season he had. He I meet it one time

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Speaker 3: earlier and that was against Indianapolis when he had one

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Speaker 4: He had ninety seven in this game.

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Speaker 2: Bad weather is a factor in both of those games.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it is, And.

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Speaker 3: So with Lamar, I have kind of felt the last

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Speaker 3: two weeks in particular that it seems like he is

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Speaker 3: running with a little bit more aggression and I don't

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Speaker 3: know what the right word is when needed. I felt

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Speaker 3: like way against the Rams, and I felt that way

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Speaker 3: playoff mode. He's going to be a little bit more willing,

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Speaker 3: knowing if it can help this team, and that's what

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Speaker 3: they need to talk in or run and.

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Speaker 4: Carry the ball.

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Speaker 1: I think it's not just running too, it's scrambling also,

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Speaker 1: and you see a fair amount of that with Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: and credit to his offensive line in front of him

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Speaker 1: for giving him those opportunities. He's looking the pass and

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Speaker 4: Big difference that was clear in this game for sure.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the big difference from this year to

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Speaker 1: years prior when you compare them is obviously there's a

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Speaker 1: lot more quarterback called runs under Greg Groman. Yeah, now

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Speaker 1: it's more passing opportunities and oftentimes Lamar is looking to

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Speaker 1: extend the play and throw.

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Speaker 2: But you still have to keep.

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Speaker 1: In mind this is Lamar Jackson, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: doing a really good job of picking his spots when

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Speaker 1: he takes off and runs. The interesting thing about him, too,

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Speaker 1: is he's so effective as a runner. It's not always

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Speaker 1: full tilt full speed. He's under control. It almost feels

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Speaker 1: like he's at seventy five percent speed most of the time.

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Speaker 1: And obviously over his entire career he's done a great

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Speaker 1: job of avoiding hits. I just think he's done doing

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Speaker 1: a really good job of picking his spots being a

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Speaker 4: I think that's I think the speed point is really good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar's body control and ability to weave in

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Speaker 3: and out of traffic is as good as anybody that

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Speaker 4: And he does.

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Speaker 3: It's very graceful, the way he can be in the

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Speaker 3: And I even remember, like when the Ravens drafted him,

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Speaker 3: that was a point of feedback from coaches and scouts

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Speaker 3: was like this guy doesn't you know if you go

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Speaker 3: all the way back and the questions like can he

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Speaker 3: and multiple people would say, well, he doesn't take the

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Speaker 3: of like, all right, well, let's see how that is

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. You know, guys are faster and they

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Speaker 3: hit some more vicious and all this stuff. Well, after

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Speaker 3: watching him through six years, I can see that now,

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Speaker 3: like his ability to really maneuver and put himself in

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Speaker 3: good position is is second to none. Of course, like

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Speaker 3: people will point to his injuries the past couple of years,

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Speaker 3: but like those first of all were trying to scramble

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Speaker 3: he's designed, when he's running the ball by design, he

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Speaker 3: just has this knack for finding the ability to get

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Speaker 4: And he doesn't. At the open field, he can at

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Speaker 4: least get down without absorbing a big hit. I think

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Speaker 4: most of the time, both.

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Speaker 1: Of his injuries the past years or behind the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Yeah, yeah, totally, So it wasn't. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's he's running basically because there's pressure that

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Speaker 3: was on. I'm just like any other quarterback in the

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Speaker 3: when you know the protection breaks down exactly.

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Speaker 1: I asked Lamar after the game, what are your emotions?

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Speaker 1: What's running through your mind when you're in the pocket

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Speaker 1: and you're dancing around there's pass rushers whizzing by you

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Speaker 1: in every direction. I said, look, he looks so calm,

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Speaker 1: he said, he said, do it?

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Speaker 2: Do I look calm? I said, yeah, you do right,

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Speaker 2: all right, And so it's really incredible.

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Speaker 1: I think when we talk about no other quarterback being

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Speaker 1: able to do it like Lamar, that's case in point.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen another quarterback that can just dance in

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Speaker 1: it's buying more time. I think he's special in that way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: while we're having this conversation, I also want to give

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Speaker 1: credit to his blockers. Lamar had the second longest time

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Speaker 1: to throw of his career. Yeah, against the Jags he

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Speaker 1: had three average time to throw was three point eight seconds.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: When I look at the film, I see some really

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Speaker 1: good sustained blocking, mirror blocking that's basically mirroring the movements

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Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum and Kevin Zeitler, and I just talked to

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Speaker 1: Jojialli Sanders really quick in the cafeteria, just to give

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Speaker 1: him his props and his offensive lineman his props.

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Speaker 2: He said, that's something we drill all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that sustain mirrored blocking, and you're seeing it

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Speaker 1: pay off in spades for this offense.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're gonna have if you're gonna have plays

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Speaker 3: where you're scrambling and putting, throwing, pushing the ball down

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Speaker 3: the field, like, it's kind of this mix, right, because

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Speaker 3: when you look at like the Isaiah Likely play, part

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Speaker 3: of what makes that play so magical is the Lamar

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Speaker 3: has pressure and he sneaks out of that pressure and

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Speaker 3: then throws the ball down the field. So there's pressure

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Speaker 3: that forces the scramble in the first place, but it's

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Speaker 3: not complete breakdown. A protection across the offensive line in

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Speaker 3: order for then you just still have time to kind

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Speaker 3: of settle, for him to settle himself and then look

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Speaker 3: down the field. The guys that you're mentioning Linder bom Ziler,

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Speaker 3: they need to be blocking and holding up in the

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Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of the anomaly of the

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Speaker 1: extended play by Lamar was he almost got his head

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it spun out of it. That was.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was a protection breakdown off the right side.

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Speaker 1: Most of it, from what I see on tape, was

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Speaker 1: really good protection in the pocket. The tackles for the

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Speaker 1: most part doing a good job of pushing the protection

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Speaker 1: around behind him and him just kind of dancing around.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was necessarily shirking off tackles he had.

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Speaker 2: Room is maybe not the best were the tackles.

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Speaker 3: They they was, it was up and down. I think

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Speaker 3: like it wasn't like it was. It's not like he

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Speaker 3: He was creating time to throw. But I agree with

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Speaker 3: your point, which is up front Linderbaum, Zeitler, John Simpson,

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Speaker 3: they were for the most part holding the interior of

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Speaker 3: small task to step in and play from Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 4: He prepares that way, and he takes stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's the preparation that you put in to make plays

442
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Speaker 1: in that situation that matters, yep.

443
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Speaker 3: And I think we're seeing it paid dividends, and now

444
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Speaker 3: I only think he's going to get better.

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Speaker 1: I think that it was really big for him to

446
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Speaker 1: make that play, in particular because he talked to us

447
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: about how much that colts drop it every time affected him,

448
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 1: and that was a tight he called it. I think

449
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: doing the dirty work, the grimy work, tight contested catch

450
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: to make that kind of contested catch in that big

451
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Speaker 1: of a game on Sunday Night Football against the Jags.

452
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Speaker 1: That wasn't a wide open yards after catch making somebody

453
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Speaker 1: miss like we had seen earlier in the two previous

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Speaker 1: games with him as a starter.

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Speaker 2: That was a big boy catch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you go up and you make a tough catch

457
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Speaker 4: in traffic.

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Speaker 2: You know what that catch was. That was a no catch.

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Speaker 2: Let's just let it out of the bag, out of

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Speaker 2: the no g the no the week, Isaiah likely.

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Speaker 3: That's a well deserved honor for him. Yes, And it

462
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Speaker 3: wasn't just that play. I mean, he was involved in

463
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Speaker 3: this offense for the start. He also caught the touchdown.

464
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Speaker 3: Just a really nice overall game from him. When the offense,

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Speaker 3: you know, we already talked about how the receivers weren't

466
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Speaker 3: really putting up big production in this game.

467
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Speaker 4: So who's gonna be the player that steps up? And

468
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Speaker 4: it was likely.

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Speaker 1: As we're talking about tight ends, let's talk about Charlie

470
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Speaker 1: Kohler and the Ravens version of the tush push that

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Speaker 1: the Eagles have made famous with Jalen Hurts. So the

472
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Speaker 1: Ravens are facing a critical third and one second half.

473
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Speaker 1: They come out of the huddle and this is a

474
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Speaker 1: play John Harbaal said, they've been practicing for a few weeks.

475
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Speaker 1: Rushed the line and it's Charlie Kohler under center getting

476
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Speaker 1: the push from behind from big old Gus Edwards and

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Speaker 1: pat Rickard to convert get a yard on third and one.

478
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Speaker 1: So a new kind of wrinkle from the Ravens offense.

479
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Speaker 1: If they're gonna go with this, if this becomes the thing,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it right now.

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Speaker 2: It's the Colar Express.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you want that, Nay, you want that.

483
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Speaker 2: Cor Prison's giving me a little round of applause over there.

484
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You've got the the tush push or the brotherly shove.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: And so this is our version of the Coler Express.

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Speaker 1: The Cohler Express. I can't take credit that. All credit

489
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Speaker 1: goes to Ravens Twitter fans out there. I did not

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Speaker 1: come out with that, but I definitely co sign.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was kind of interesting because on the broadcast

493
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Speaker 3: it was almost missed a little bit, like they didn't

494
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Speaker 3: mention it, but it was like kind of casually, it's like,

495
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Speaker 3: all right, the Ravens are lining up here, tush push

496
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Speaker 3: and Charlie Coler was going to take take the snap.

497
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Speaker 3: It's like, wait, wait, wait, Charlie, Cooler's gonna take the

498
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Speaker 3: snap the tight end who like has like three catches

499
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Speaker 3: in his careers now taking the snap.

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Speaker 4: Here on third and one? What where's Lamar?

501
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Speaker 3: And the other part too, is the Ravens rushed to

502
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Speaker 3: the line on that play, and I think that's why

503
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Speaker 3: there wasn't too much conversation about Coler taking the stap.

504
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 3: They end up getting the too many men penalty on

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Speaker 3: the defense.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's really notable about it is it was basically

507
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Speaker 1: ten on twelve because Lamar Jackson's standing behind the play.

508
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Speaker 1: So the Ravens had ten people engaged in that play,

509
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Speaker 1: they had twelve, They had too many men on the

510
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Speaker 1: field and it still worked. Yeah, So that's that's also

511
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Speaker 1: pretty incredible.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 1: I think that it showed, you know, the Ravens did

514
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Speaker 1: that with Mark Andrews previously last year.

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Speaker 2: It was what did Mark say it?

516
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Speaker 3: The one was called it was called Mark in Charge,

517
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Speaker 3: Mark in Charge, Market Charge, Mark and chars Yeah, but

518
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: it was didn't have the push element from behind.

519
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a different variation of Mark in Charge.

520
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's honestly it's it's really important for

521
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: the Ravens to be able to run that execute it

522
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Speaker 3: at a high level. I give Cohler credit as well,

523
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Speaker 3: because we've seen other teams try to do the brotherly

524
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Speaker 3: shoved push push and not have success doing it. This

525
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Speaker 3: is Kohler, who's not a quarterback now taking a snap

526
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Speaker 3: under center. You want to make sure that first or foremost,

527
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Speaker 3: the ball handling there is clean. You hold onto the

528
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Speaker 3: football once he gets the ball in his hands, I

529
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Speaker 3: feel prett good about He's two undred sixty pounds and

530
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Speaker 3: he's a you know you can he.

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Speaker 2: Can big dude.

532
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big guy, and you can kind of

533
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Speaker 3: do the battering ram thing in there and push the pile.

534
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Speaker 3: But it is a little bit nerve wracking when you

535
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Speaker 3: have a reserve tight end stepping into that role. But

536
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Speaker 3: I think that the Ravens like his size in that situation,

537
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Speaker 3: and they've been practicing it and it clearly worked.

538
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Speaker 1: I like not doing it with Lamar's the better.

539
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Speaker 4: What's the benefit in your mind of not doing it

540
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Speaker 4: with Lamar?

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Speaker 2: Say? Yeah, I think we've seen Lamar.

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Speaker 1: I would not categorize as have as being a great quarterback,

543
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Speaker 1: sneak guy.

544
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Speaker 4: It's a little better in space, for sure.

545
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Speaker 1: I can think of a number of vinces where he's

546
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Speaker 1: been stopped short and so also you're protecting him from injury.

547
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Speaker 2: He's not built like Jalen Hurts.

548
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Speaker 1: His Really, what I want to see is who can

549
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: squat the most on the team.

550
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Speaker 3: Michael Offense, Michael Pearson, Michael Pearce.

551
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Speaker 1: Would be the guy, because that's the thing about Jalen

552
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Speaker 1: Hurts is heyes, these monster legs, huh, and he can

553
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: really push in their offensive line, is great at executing

554
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: it in all those different things. Can we get a

555
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Speaker 1: squat off on the offense, Maybe Charlie Kuher is the guy.

556
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Speaker 3: Maybe I like him as long as you feel good,

557
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: as long as the Ravens feel good about Again, the

558
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Speaker 3: ball security aspect of it, and Kohler looked he you know,

559
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Speaker 3: you got the ball cleanly, and he looked efficient once

560
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Speaker 3: he got it again. I also thought it was when

561
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Speaker 3: he caught that ball, like when he caught the ball

562
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Speaker 3: earlier in the game down there by the goal line,

563
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Speaker 3: like it was a very efficient catch from him, Like

564
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Speaker 3: it was not did not look like a guy who's

565
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Speaker 3: in a second year who hasn't had much action he

566
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Speaker 3: didn't catch it nervously. You know, I thought I liked

567
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Speaker 3: that the in he almost got in the end zone

568
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 3: and came up just a little bit short. But I

569
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Speaker 3: just think that, like, if they're even so good about

570
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Speaker 3: the ball security aspect of it, and that's great, Now

571
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Speaker 3: you have another something else. Like part of the reason

572
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Speaker 3: the Eagles have been so good the past few years

573
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Speaker 3: is that they started every possession first and nine because

574
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Speaker 3: they know once they get down there, they can just

575
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Speaker 3: push ahead. If you add that element to the Ravens offense,

576
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Speaker 3: and you're taking a yard away from every first down, Okay,

577
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Speaker 3: I like the I like the odds there of the

578
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Speaker 3: Ravens to be able to pick those up.

579
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Speaker 2: The coler Express, baby.

580
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Speaker 3: Who we got, the Ghost Boss, the coler Express, get

581
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Speaker 3: all the vehicles, small young children around.

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Speaker 1: Them, board they'll be They'll be very happy with those analogies.

583
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Speaker 1: The last thing I want to talk about from the

584
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Speaker 1: film is the defensive effort. And you got to give

585
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Speaker 1: the flowers to Justin Mattabek sets the record eleven straight

586
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Speaker 1: games with at least half a sack. What are you

587
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Speaker 1: seeing from him this season that has made him so effective?

588
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: Well, Mattabik I mean, you just can't say enough about

589
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: how impressive this year has been for him, Like he's

590
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Speaker 3: having a historic season. This is a I thought when

591
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Speaker 3: Brian Baldinger did a breakdown of him, he made the

592
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Speaker 3: point about the record, you know, the eleven straight games

593
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Speaker 3: with at least a half sack.

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Speaker 4: He's like, Reggie White never did this, and it's.

595
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Speaker 1: Like whoa, Okay, some of the names that he's tied

596
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: with now, Chris Jones, Jared Allen.

597
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, wow, we're talking about Rare Air here.

598
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald never did this, Reggie White never did this.

599
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Speaker 3: But these are some of the best defensive players, best

600
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Speaker 3: pass rushers to ever walk the earth. Okay, so Matty

601
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Speaker 3: bick is having his historic season. I think what there's

602
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: a couple of things that stand out to me about

603
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Speaker 3: this year for him. He's always been this kind of

604
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: quick twitch, athletic freak for an interior defensive lineman in

605
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: the Aaron Donald mold. So that's like always been there

606
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Speaker 3: for him, and I think that he's just kind of

607
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: refined his pass rush moves a little bit. The second

608
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Speaker 3: thing is that he absolutely plays to the whistle. He

609
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 3: is incredibly hard. He does not give up.

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Speaker 4: He does not.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was gonna mention with this sack

612
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Speaker 1: with the record setting up, sack does not give up.

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Speaker 1: That was an effort sack, yeh. Primarily he did not

614
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Speaker 1: win right away. That play was designed particularly for Kyle

615
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Speaker 1: van Noy. It was Patrick Queen came in blasted the blocker,

616
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Speaker 1: which gave Van Noy the loop, the avenue to loop

617
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Speaker 1: around for the sack. Only problem was Rokwan Smith tripped

618
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Speaker 1: him and so van Ney hits the turf. Patrick Queen

619
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Speaker 1: has a shot at the sack but can't wrap him

620
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: up exactly. Now he flushes Trevor Lawrence out of the pocket,

621
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Speaker 1: he's on the run and Mattabekay cleans it up. And

622
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Speaker 1: so really it wasn't his sack to be had, but

623
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Speaker 1: because of his effort, he ends up getting the record,

624
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: the record higher. Yeah, and so that is another aspect

625
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: of justin Matdebeuay's game that I think we also saw

626
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Speaker 1: from the interview that we had with him. Go back

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00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: and listen to that one, yep. As well. Can we

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Speaker 1: just talk about the podcast B Is.

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Speaker 3: Alive and what podcast? I mean, we had Kyle Hamilton

630
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: on before the season.

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Speaker 2: And so Mattabique.

632
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Speaker 1: In our conversation with him, you really saw the maturity

633
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: and the hard work, the dedication to keep getting better,

634
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: keep refinding his craft, and that also applies to just

635
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: on the field, continuing his rush and oftentimes that's what

636
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: ends up getting the results. It's not like Mattabike when

637
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: you compare him to his past rush win rate and

638
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: things like that that some of these analytical outlets do.

639
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: He's not in the top five when it comes to

640
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: that for defensive linemen. He is with secks, but part

641
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: of that is because of the effort, and part of

642
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: it is because he's finishing so well when he gets

643
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to get a.

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Speaker 2: Sec he's getting he is.

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Speaker 3: Now I will say he has fifty six pressures this year.

646
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: That trails only Aaron Donald among defensive tackles for sure.

647
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Speaker 2: So he's winning it a lot. So like he is,

648
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Speaker 2: let's make no bones about.

649
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: It, he's winning a lot.

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Speaker 3: So he's got the second most pressures in the NFL

651
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Speaker 3: amongst all defensive linemen. And then I think that he

652
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: does when he gets there, he finishes the sack like

653
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of times the guys are slipping

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Speaker 3: out of his grasp.

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Speaker 1: To your point about pressures, though pressure doesn't necessarily come

656
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Speaker 1: right away. It can come later because of effort or whatnot.

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00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily an indication.

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Speaker 3: I also thought I was I was just happy for

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Speaker 3: him to get that sack because he basically had one

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Speaker 3: earlier in the game, and Lawrence just did the old

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Speaker 3: dump off for the intentional grounding. You get robbed, and

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Speaker 3: so you know that should count as a sack. You

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Speaker 3: know that's a half sack. We'll give you the half

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Speaker 3: sack for that. That doesn't count in the record book.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't.

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Speaker 3: We'll get and the lounge books and the Lounge Boks accounts.

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Speaker 3: But he got there, and so you would hate to

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Speaker 3: basically have that streak come to an end when you

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Speaker 3: when you really should have had to continue except for

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Speaker 3: the penalty.

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Speaker 4: But then he ends up getting it later in the game.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, Lamar joked after the game about how

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Speaker 3: mad Abik is going to owe him some money. I

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Speaker 3: think Lamars it was just fine. But I do think

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Speaker 3: that Mattabik, as we know, is going to get a

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Speaker 3: huge payday of this offseason.

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Speaker 4: I'm just happy for him. He's he's playing great.

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Speaker 2: Somebody else that deserves some kudos.

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Speaker 1: With the Ravens pass rushes are not and it didn't

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Speaker 1: like Mattabik didn't show up on the stat sheet, but

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Speaker 1: he led the Ravens with six quarterback pressures that was

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Speaker 1: twice as many as any other player on the team.

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Speaker 1: Huh and so Odafe I think is making a lot

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Speaker 1: of noise with his play that should not be overlooked.

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Speaker 3: Should We also encourage fans to go back and watch

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Speaker 3: and listen to the adape interview.

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Speaker 2: Of one.

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Speaker 5: Ahead the podcast Bomb Alive and well all right, when

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Speaker 5: we come back, we're going to talk about how the

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Speaker 5: Ravens replaced Keaton Mitchell, that was the sad news of

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Speaker 5: the day, and more news from John Harball's press conference.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I think I do, all right?

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Speaker 2: Who is it?

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Speaker 2: And wah wah swag bag. Oh your daughter she's walking now? Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: it's ready.

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Speaker 3: If it would take a little while, we had to

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Speaker 3: put the game on hold, it would be a slow

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Speaker 3: retrieval of the tea.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, everyone cannot It would be adorable though. It

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Speaker 4: would be cute. It would it would be cute.

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Speaker 3: You can make your submissions there Baltimore was dot com

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Speaker 2: All right, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So the bummer of the game was Keaton Mitchell

729
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Speaker 1: said season ending knee injury on a play where it

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Speaker 1: looked like he was going to take off for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: And that's a substantial loss.

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Speaker 1: Here's a player who had risen to the top of

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Speaker 1: the Ravens running back depth chart. He was their home

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Speaker 1: run hitter. And I don't know that you can really

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Speaker 1: replace that home run potential.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that if we're going to keep the

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Speaker 3: baseball analogy rolling here, Like I still like Gus Edwards

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Speaker 3: and Justice Hill, but those hitters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah there there.

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna get a lot of singles and

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Speaker 3: doubles with those guys. I think you could get a

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Speaker 3: triple out of Justice. Okay, you can get a shove

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Speaker 3: stretch one. He could leg it out there and get

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Speaker 3: the third viad for sure. I mean, like, Gus is

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Speaker 3: your your singles hitter. Who is gonna be like he

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Speaker 3: hits for average? I mean seriously, he hits for average.

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Speaker 2: Got the batting coach, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and he is gonna be like, you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: your three four five yards of carry every time he

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Speaker 3: touches the Ballus is Tony gwinn Okay, there you go,

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Speaker 3: the best hitter of all time, high high kind of

752
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Speaker 3: build the same too. Yeah, he got a little similar,

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Speaker 3: But Gus is bigger. Tony Gillan is a less shorter

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Speaker 3: I think, but uh no, I think like I think

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Speaker 3: that Gus, when you're in these games. This is basically

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Speaker 3: what they did at the end of this game. Like, okay, Gus,

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Speaker 3: like you're gonna have a heavy workload, and and they've

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Speaker 3: done this plenty of times in Gus's career.

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Speaker 4: Like he's ready.

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Speaker 3: He's always ready to take on a big workload.

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Speaker 1: Look, when it comes to December and January football, I

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Speaker 1: feel pretty comfortable with a ball in Gus Edwards hands.

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to cold weather games wearing down

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Speaker 1: an opponent, give me some Gus. And that's not of course.

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Speaker 1: I would love Gus and Keaton and to be able

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Speaker 1: to throw Keaton in there, throw the change up.

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Speaker 2: We are on a roll.

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Speaker 1: Ye as you know, he's like a pinch hitter who

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Speaker 1: can just jack one.

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Speaker 2: I can't stop. I couldnot stop.

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Speaker 1: But I feel really good about Gus Edwards stepping to

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Speaker 1: the plate.

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Speaker 3: I knew you're gonna say something because you can barely

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Speaker 3: even get that sentence out without laughing.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I gotta really do okay, all.

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Speaker 1: Right now, looking at the film, I really do think

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Speaker 1: Justice Hill. I've been impressed with the way that Justice

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Speaker 1: Hill has run the football. I think he's kind of

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Speaker 1: Keaton Mitchell White. You see the patients, you see the explosion,

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Speaker 1: you see the ability for him to get the edge ball.

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Speaker 1: Security was Justice's issue early this season, too many fumbles

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Speaker 1: at the mesh point. But this is a guy who

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Speaker 1: he can move now. Yeah, and I think that he

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Speaker 1: really steps into the shoes of Keaton Mitchell and he

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Speaker 1: does give you an added benefit of he's good in

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Speaker 1: pass protection. Yeah, and so you do get an upgrade there.

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Speaker 1: He can catch the ball just like Keaton Can. I

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Speaker 1: think that it's there's more on Justice's plate, kind of

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Speaker 1: like earlier in this season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The other guy that we haven't met you yet

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Speaker 4: is Melvin Gordon.

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Speaker 3: He's been on the practice squad betteran running back, and

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Speaker 3: he's been sitting on the practice squad all year long.

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Speaker 3: And John Harbaugh kind of gushed about him during his

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Speaker 3: press conference on Monday, talking about how he's loved his

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Speaker 3: attitude that he's basically been saying behind the scenes all year,

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Speaker 3: I'm ready, I'm ready now. Gordon did play in previous games,

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Speaker 3: was called up from the practice squad. He has been

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Speaker 3: activated to the fifty three man roster, so you know,

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Speaker 3: he's on the fifty three now, and the Ravens are

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Speaker 3: going to potentially turn to him. I think that the

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Speaker 3: bulk of the work is going to be split between

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Speaker 3: Gus and Justice, but Melvin Gordon, as John Harball, you

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Speaker 3: know reference, this is a former Pro Bowl level running

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Speaker 3: back who's been in big games. He's delivered some big moments.

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of ability, and so he's ready

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Speaker 3: if the Ravens need to turn to him in these

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Speaker 3: late season games.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to think of a baseball analogy for

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Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon.

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Speaker 4: Out he's coming out of the pen, He's coming out

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Speaker 4: of the pan.

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Speaker 2: I was I kept I had that song in my

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Speaker 2: head though. Put me in coach, Yeah, I'm ready to play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: coming out of the bullpen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he's coming out of the pen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's pretty good. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't thinking picture so much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got you gotta expand the analogy across the

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Speaker 3: field as you're picking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotcha, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, rolling things forward.

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Speaker 1: Now the Ravens are coming off with playoff clinching winep

824
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Speaker 1: but there's still more work to be done in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. They are two games ahead of the Browns,

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Speaker 1: the pesky Joe Flacco led Browns. Yeah, of course, Joe

827
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Speaker 1: would be pesky, of course, And so the pressure is on.

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Speaker 1: You look at the schedule ahead. You have the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers, who are the best team in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we have the Dolphins on deck, and then

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Speaker 1: in the hole the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, I think we've been saying it. I feel

834
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Speaker 3: like it's rinse repeat. The Ravens are in the midst

835
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Speaker 3: of maybe the toughest stretch of anybody in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: They're playing great teams. It started with the Rams to

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Speaker 3: continue against Jacksonville. And now you got two of the

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Speaker 3: top I don't know four teams in football, with the

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers and the Dolphins, and you don't have

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Speaker 3: any margin for air really with the Browns sitting there

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Speaker 3: right behind you and the Dolphins. Of course, in terms

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Speaker 3: of the top seed in the in the AFC, the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are going for that number one seed.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: If they win these next two games, they've got it.

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Speaker 3: They've got it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: You can drop the game against San Francisco. Certainly don't

849
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Speaker 3: want to, but you can drop that game against San

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Speaker 3: Francisco and then come back and take care of business

851
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Speaker 3: against Miami and then Pittsburgh and then you got it

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Speaker 3: as well. So you know, the Ravens have multiple avenues here.

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Speaker 3: The good thing is that they're in pole position and

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00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 3: they control their own destiny and they have a little

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Speaker 3: bit of breathing room, not it's on, but a little

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Speaker 3: bit of breathing room.

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Speaker 4: But it's gonna be challenging.

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Speaker 1: So right now, the Ravens have a ninety two percent

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Speaker 1: chance of winning the AFC North according to the ESPN Analytics,

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Speaker 1: and a sixty three percent chance of finishing with the

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Speaker 1: top seed, which comes to the first round by and

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Speaker 1: home field advantage throughout the playoffs. To win the division,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens need to win one more game and the

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Speaker 1: Browns lose one. That happens, division is the Ravens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty likely. You look ahead at the

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Speaker 1: Browns schedule at Texans at home against the Jets at Bengals. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all three losable games. How are the Jets? What's the

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Speaker 1: Jets quarterback situation? You know, how well are they playing

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Speaker 1: on offense? That's a defense though we were talking about

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Speaker 1: a Browns seem that they're not blowing people out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if Darnel Mudi holds onto that Hail Mary,

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Speaker 3: they lose that game exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I have a feeling that the Browns are gonna

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Speaker 1: take a loss in one of those three games, and

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling, strong feeling that the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: gonna win one of their remaining three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel good about the division.

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Speaker 2: I feel very good about that.

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Speaker 1: Now to get the number one seed, basically, there's three scenarios.

880
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Win the remaining three games, win two of three with

881
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: any one Miami loss. So whether that's you beat Miami,

882
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: that's their loss, or you can win any two of

883
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: the three and Miami loses somebody else. Miami doesn't have

884
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: an easy schedule either. They're at home against the Cowboys

885
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: at Baltimore as we know, and then at home against

886
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: the Bills who just beat the Cowboys and the Chiefs.

887
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: So likely that the Dolphins probably take drop one of

888
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: those remaining three games, okay, And then the third scenario

889
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: for the Ravens win one of three plus all of

890
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: these things happen. One loss by the Chiefs probably not

891
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: like you likely they have the Raiders, the Bengals, and

892
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: at Chargers.

893
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: Maybe the Bengals can get them.

894
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs have not been world beaters here recently,

895
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: so you would If the Ravens only win one of

896
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: their remaining three games, the Chiefs have to lose one

897
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: and the Browns have to lose one, and either Baltimore

898
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: beats Miami or Miami loses to both Dallas and Buffalo.

899
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: So not inconceivable that the Ravens could win one of

900
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: their last three and still get it.

901
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: Not likely, but not impossible.

902
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: Did you also do the scenario for lose the last three.

903
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they're getting the top seed, kay?

904
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 4: Okay?

905
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: I mean, well you could everybody loses well now because

906
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: Miami would have beaten us.

907
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: No, that's impossible.

908
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 3: But no, I think, as I said, the Ravens are

909
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: in the middle of a really tough stretch. But I

910
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: like the tone and the mindset of this team, Like

911
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: they're going to San Francisco. Everyone's gonna be picking San Francisco.

912
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: They're the underdogs.

913
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everyone's going to be looking at you know, Okay,

914
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: this is the San Francisco is the best team in football.

915
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: They're playing great right now. And you know, there's a

916
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: lot of subplots in this game. There's the two best

917
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: teams in the NFL right now, there's the super Bowl

918
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: preview talk, and then the other one is the MVP conversation.

919
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: I mean perty Versa La mar and John Harball was

920
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 3: asked about that this week. I think it's pretty clear

921
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: he's not really too focused on the MVP conversation.

922
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Oh, he's not interested in having that conversation.

923
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: But I think that the media, the external pundits will

924
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: will certainly be focused. And if you know, whoever honestly

925
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: wins this game, especially if they look good offensively doing it,

926
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: I think twenty sixth is probably going to be leading

927
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: the way of that MVP conversation.

928
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: You're probably right.

929
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: According to the analytics team's DVOA. Can't go into the

930
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: whole explanation of what DVOA is, but it basically measures

931
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: the team's effectiveness given the situation an opponent. This will

932
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: be the best regular season game in sixteen years the

933
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: Ravens and forty nine Ers are two of the best

934
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: DVOA teams ever.

935
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, in NFL history, and that the last game that

936
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: ranked this highly was Patriots Colts and that was in

937
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven. It's when the Patriots had the

938
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Speaker 3: eighteen and o season.

939
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 4: That's correct, super Bowl.

940
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: This is going to be a really great game.

941
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: To your point, I think there's going to be major

942
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: vibes in the Ravens locker room this week about being underdogs.

943
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: That has not happened much at all this season, that

944
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens have gone into a game as an underdog.

945
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: It's the second biggest underdog, heaviest underdog role for Lamar

946
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: Jackson in his career. The Ravens have been looking for

947
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: any fodder to fire themselves up. Rokwan Smith, I don't know.

948
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: He must hire somebody else to look for headlines. Apparently

949
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: dug up the Jaguars putting up on a board in

950
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: their locker room that it was one of the objectives

951
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: for the week was to be the bully.

952
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

953
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't see that one, but apparently

954
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: Roquan did.

955
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: He very much did.

956
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: And and so they don't have to dig much for

957
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: the fodder this week, for the motivation against forty nine ers.

958
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna be underdogs on Christmas. They're gonna be feeling

959
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: not good about missing Christmas at home. They're gonna be

960
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of Grinches.

961
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, if the Ravens find a

962
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: way to win this, how many Grinch references do we

963
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: get from a rod Quand Smith after the game?

964
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: How many grin t rests do we have on this

965
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: podcast in the days follwing? Almost as many as the

966
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: baseball references.

967
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have to change the analogies, but

968
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: we're gonna work on that. We're gonna make sure that

969
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: we watch The Grinch this week so that we're fully

970
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 3: ready for all the Grinch references.

971
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: Yep. Well, it's gonna be a really great game.

972
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: And to preview that game, we're bringing on fullback Patrick

973
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: Recard to talk about the physicality that's gonna be coming

974
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: up and the Ravens run game that we touched on today.

975
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Speaker 1: So make sure you tune in later this week for that.

976
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977
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979
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Speaker 2: For Tylan Wallace's.

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Speaker 1: Game winning punt return, which then we took to Thailand,

981
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Speaker 1: You Meet a social video out of that, which was

982
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Speaker 1: pretty cool.

983
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Speaker 4: Tyland picked the high breaker.

984
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Speaker 2: I thought that was really good. I like that was

985
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Speaker 2: alway to walk off, but the tie breaker I think

986
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Speaker 2: beats it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was well done.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for all the emails and we'll be

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