1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: One of my first games in the NBA. I wasn't 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: playing a lot. One of her first games was against 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Miami and I was there to hack shack. The coach 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: puts me in. He's like, look, everybody's in foul trouble. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Daddy's dominating mind you. I'm like two hundred and ten 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: pounds at the time. And I walk onto the courts 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: one of my first NBA games and I say, we're 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: at the free throw line. I was like, guys, don't fear. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: I got shocked. Everybody started laughing except for one person. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: That guy, and he looks at me and he goes, Rook, 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: watch your nose. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, coach, oh my god, those elbows were swinging. 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Man, those elbows were swinging. 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: I never pigs. 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: Big can tell me to pig. I never pig big 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 4: big sing it again. I have a pig, big big. 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: I do a big, big big sing it again. I 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: do a big, big, big big sing it again. 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: I do a big What is what is good? 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: How you living? How you feeling, how you're doing It? 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: Is The Big Podcast with Shaq, where we always do 23 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: it big. As usual, we are presented by DraftKings, but 24 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: this special live from Indianapolis, Indiana. This episode for March 25 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Madness is presented by the one and only Shack Delicious 26 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: Candies and if you haven't had them, they're addictive. They're 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: getting applause from the crowd Shack. Before we welcome in 28 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: the guest, can we shout out some celebrities? I was 29 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: gonna say, we have a star our studded crowd here. 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: Who do you see who jumped out to you? Sir? 31 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 5: Stand up? You stand up? Yeah? Stand up? I want 32 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 5: I want everybody to say hello to stand McAfee. That's 33 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 5: Pat McAfee's dad. What's up stand mcaffee. 34 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: Uh, it's our distinct Donnor. Also, major pain is here, 35 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: Major pain, stand up pain, major pain, stand up? 36 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: Stand up? You you brother? Major pain is here. 37 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: Yes, a Q in the house always. 38 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 5: Beautiful, young lady? Could you stand up? 39 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: You? 40 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 5: You beautiful? 41 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: Sorry? 42 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: Everyone say hello to Chaka Khan. 43 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: Incredible, incredible. May I now introduce our guests? 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead, okay perfect. 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: We are here at the Final four where this man dominated. 46 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: He is a legend in Chicago Cleveland. Hated greatness is 47 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: in the bloodline. A defensive savage on the court, he 48 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: would have been a seven time MVP if trash talking 49 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: was a sport from Manhattan, New York from way of Paris, France. 50 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: Two time NCAA Champion Defensive Player of the Year. 51 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Joke, ye, no, thanks for having me, Thanks for having you. 52 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 5: Know, it's crazy. I knew you were from New York, 53 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: but I never knew you played in France. So how 54 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: did that shape you as a player, college player, NBA player? 55 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 5: And were you always the loudest guy in the court. 56 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I remember being ten years old, Shack, and I remember 57 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: going into something just like this, and you were playing 58 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: for USA and I was ten years old and I 59 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: got to interview you as a ten year France That. 60 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: Was me. 61 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 5: Yes. 62 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Hold, twenty years later we get to play in some 63 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: playoff series together. Unbelievable and just yeah, thanks for having me. 64 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: It's an honor to be here with you, man, for real. 65 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: Go it's uh, let's stay on that. We can talk 66 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: Final four and a few other things. But like coming up, 67 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: and I actually was on. I sat the bench in 68 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: a game where my team played Lawrenceville Prep, and I 69 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: watched this man dunk on our best player then yell 70 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: in his face, and I was terrified. So when I 71 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: saw you, I was like, this guy has the energy 72 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: of that guy. What did he mean to you as 73 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: you were coming up and trying to dominate along the way? 74 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there was I remember my one of my 75 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: first games in the NBA. I wasn't playing a lot. 76 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: One of our first games was against Miami and I 77 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: was there to hack shack so the coach. The coach 78 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: puts me in. He's like, look, everybody's in foul trouble. 79 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: Daddy's dominating mind you. I'm like two hundred and ten 80 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: pounds at the time, and I walk onto the Court's 81 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: one of my first NBA games, and I say we're 82 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: at the free throw line. I was like, guys, don't fear. 83 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: I got shocked and everybody started laughing except for one person, 84 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 1: that guy. And he looks at me and he goes, rook, 85 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: watch your nose. And I'm like, I'm like, oh, anyway, 86 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: it was a moment I'll never forget. 87 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 2: Oh my god, those elbows were swinging, man, those elbows. 88 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: But the reason I say it's fortuitous is twenty years 89 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: ago in Indianapolis, you cut down the nets with Florida 90 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: one of two back to back championships. The final four 91 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: moments like this, what does it bring out in you? 92 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, twenty years ago, I got to 93 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: live one of the most special moments of my life 94 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis. You know, this is where I got 95 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: my only MVP of my life at the v at 96 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: the Final four, and just to be into that building, 97 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: the energy of the Final four, and what I'm most 98 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: proud about those teams is a few of us had 99 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: an opportunity to leave to the NBA and we ended 100 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: up staying another year. That's how much we loved playing basketball. 101 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: There was no nil money, there was none of that. 102 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: They didn't even give us a bag. 103 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: Not a single bag. Shack doesn't look like not one 104 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: handshake with one hundred in it, not one. 105 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: No, But how difficult was that decision you and you know, 106 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: all the guys, especially winning everybody knows who you guys are, 107 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 5: and having the ability to go pro but saying nope, 108 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: we're going to come back. 109 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: Was it? 110 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 5: What was it a difficult decision? 111 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean for me, it was like I was in 112 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: a position where, you know, my father was a tennis player, 113 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: So for me, it was I didn't have to worry 114 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: about you know, food on the table, things like that. 115 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: But when I went to Portland, Tennessee, and I saw 116 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: where Corey Brewer was from, and for him to say 117 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: guys were coming back, I was like, Okay, Like this 118 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: guy's for real, and you know, you just you can 119 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: never underestimate the love that you have for your teammates 120 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: and chemistry, you know, just like we love playing basketball 121 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: with each other, and we didn't take that for granted. 122 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: So again, one of our presenting sponsors is DraftKings, Michigan Yukon. 123 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 2: If you guys had to pick, who do you got tonight? 124 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: I knew Michigan was good. I didn't know they were 125 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: that good. The way they men handled Arizona the full 126 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 5: game was very impressive. I'm from Jersey, very close with 127 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 5: the Hurley family. Never bet against them. I'm gonna go 128 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 5: Yukon just because. 129 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: Of my Jersey guys. 130 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: And if Dan Hurley win, he will have won three 131 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: and four, which is like right out there with Florida 132 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: going back to back and the only other two coaches 133 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: that have won three and four are John Wooden and 134 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: Adolph Rupp. Like that's a crazy combination to be in. 135 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: You go, I mean, Michigan's like an eight point favorite, 136 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: but I'm curious which way you're going. 137 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: I think Michigan. Michigan's playing at a really high level. 138 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: Their top player got a little hurt. Yeah he's gonna play, 139 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: but you know you got to play that if you 140 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: got to play in that game. But you know he's 141 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: not going to be one hundred percent. But when you're 142 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: so close to death, like like the Yukon had a 143 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: couple of games. 144 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: Ago, the Brayln Mullins shot down nineteen and. 145 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Come back and win that game at the buzzer with 146 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: a three. When you're that close to death, I promise 147 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: you you do whatever it takes. So I got Yukon 148 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: as well. 149 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: Wow, all right, and then one more from DraftKings. It's 150 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: tough in the world of transfers and stuff. If you 151 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: had to think of a school next year that could 152 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: win it all, who would you pick? If we're thinking 153 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: ahead next year at LSU, I would guess the odds 154 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: for LSU winning the championship next year would probably be 155 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: like plus twenty thousand. 156 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: You got some side deals going on, Shack, Nope, not 157 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: at all. Florida maybe, Oh them them Gator Boys, man 158 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: for real, always Gator Boys are gonna be champions. 159 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: As long as it's somebody from the SEC, we're happy. 160 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: So the other Newsy question, then we can talk stories 161 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: and all. That is the favorite right now to be 162 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: the next coach of North Carolina was your former coach 163 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: Billy Donovan, who coached she at Florida then and now 164 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls. What do you what do you think 165 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: of that? So Shack not a fan. 166 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 5: No, I love Billy Donovan, but what about Kenny the 167 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 5: Jeff Smith? What about Kenny the Jet Smith. 168 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm just saying the first round of applause was definitely 169 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: I couldn't hear it. 170 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 5: It was like, not Kenny. 171 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got breaking news, guys. Somebody already got hired to. 172 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 5: Adam Adam, you know what, You're right, Billy Donovan? What 173 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 5: do you? 174 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: What do you think though? 175 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: Like, I mean, you know, Billy, Well, no, then something 176 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: then U n C coach just get hired. Mike Malone. 177 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Mike Malone, Mike Malone, Mike then yeah, wow, what do 178 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 1: you think of that? 179 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 5: Mike Malone is very old school? Is in this generation? 180 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 5: They don't they don't relate to the old schoolsm So. 181 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm shot. Thank you guys for breaking that news 182 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: to me. I've not been on Twitter enough. 183 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: Sucks for Kenny the Jet Smith. 184 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: Oh no, another job for Kenny the Jet Smith. 185 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 5: And me because now I got to work with him Tom. 186 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 5: More So, when you look at the landscape of the 187 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 5: game college NBA, do you see anybody that reminds you 188 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 5: of yourself? 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How 274 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: did you still maintain such grit and grime living in 275 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: a world that a lot of people kind of get soft. 276 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: It's deep because you know, I grew up in France 277 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: where my fire there was one of the most known people. 278 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: He's the last Frenchman to ever win a Grand Slam. 279 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: And you know, when you win a championship at that level, 280 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: people come up to me. I wasn't even born and 281 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: people still come up to me and tell me about 282 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: that story, and it's always so emotional. And you know, 283 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: my dad definitely taught me professionalism. But when you come 284 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: from a place of privilege, it's like, especially when you 285 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: want to play basketball places like New York City, it 286 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: was like you got to show your work ethic. You 287 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: got to show your work every day, especially when you 288 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: come from a position like that where people know, you know, 289 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: they come in at your neck, silver spoon, I'm from 290 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: New York City. They talk, They talking serious. 291 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: Which courch courts were you playing on uptown? 292 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Playing in all the streetball tournaments, you know, is when 293 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: the back of the jersey said bring your game, not 294 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: your name. Shout out to Pete Edwards, you know, playing 295 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: in U d CEM. I mean but those I mean 296 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: I was from Paris, yeah, and that's streetball culture definitely 297 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: helped me. So, like if you could deal with New 298 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: York City, like the trash talking becomes a lot easier. 299 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: You don't see that, I mean check, We've talked about 300 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: a lot of kids today. It's like working on drills 301 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: and working with trainers, but like going and catching a 302 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: run isn't really something that happens as much anymore. 303 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't seen a lot. I think it's definitely 304 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: taken away from the game. The au culture is is okay, 305 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 5: but I think it's a little dangerous. But you know, 306 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: all the kids out there, whoever your favorite player is, 307 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 5: make sure you watch them, make sure you steal all 308 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: his moves. Take all those moves, you know, take take 309 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 5: take all that you can. I have one of the 310 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: best young players in Indiana happened to be my nephew. 311 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 5: Stand up, nephew, nephew. Take the yes, stand so they 312 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: can see your face, man, I take hey, take the 313 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: hat off so they can see your face. His hair right, yeah, either, 314 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 5: don't worry about it. His naghme is Jared Sophomore, one 315 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 5: of the one of the best players in the city. 316 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: And I just tell him just go out play hard. 317 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 5: You know, he plays plays kind of like you ah, 318 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: yelling and rebounding and dunkingholl And stuff. So shout out 319 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 5: to him. But uh, who do you like this year 320 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: in the playoffs? Give me your champions for the West, 321 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: and give me your champions for the East, and then 322 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 5: give me your finals prediction. 323 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: In the West? Man, I'm loving what the Spurs are doing, 324 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: and you know they don't have that playoff experience, but 325 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: sometimes I just see dogs everywhere. Is when be ready, 326 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, It's like when you played, it was like 327 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: nobody had ever seen anything like that, like that of 328 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: lessism being able to like get a defensive rebound, bring 329 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: it up the court like nobody had ever seen anything 330 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: like that. And with Lebron some similarly, you know the 331 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: way that he athletically like the things that he could do. 332 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: But Wemby is getting to block the way he's handling 333 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: the ball, like it's just I feel like I'm watching 334 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: somebody do news every single time he steps on the court. 335 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: So I'm really hoping that the Spurs can get it 336 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: on the West. 337 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: Uh. 338 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: In the East, Detroit, but your boys hurt? Can boys hurt? 339 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: That's the problem. I love Detroit, but you gotta get 340 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: your boy back right. If he doesn't. 341 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 5: You like the Knicks. 342 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: We are the New York Knicks. We are the New 343 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: York Knicks. We are the New York Knicks. It's not Indy. 344 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not not this year. It's not Indy 345 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: this year. 346 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: I just realized if Spike Lee was here, he would 347 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: get booed so bad. 348 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 5: You know what scares me about the Knicks. I don't 349 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 5: know which cato m I get. I don't know which 350 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: cadom I get. Am I gonna get? Am I gonna 351 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 5: get a tiger? Or am I gonna get a pussy cat? Well? 352 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: I'm sure no. Seriously, Like you know, sometimes he plays 353 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 5: phenomenal and other times he's nowhere to be found. And 354 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 5: that that can as you know, that can happen in 355 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: the plaffs. If he plays like I know he can play. Yeah, 356 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Knicks. But he hasn't shown 357 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 5: me that in the past couple of years or so. 358 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: Joe came and hit me because I've heard your story 359 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: about KG the first time you went on the court 360 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: and that up and back and now the story was Shack. 361 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: Did you ever have a rookie that you got to 362 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: son when they talked to you on the court for 363 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: the first time. 364 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: I'm proud of those moments because you know, I had 365 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: a shock poster in my room, you know, like I 366 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: had a KG poster, I had his jersey. And then 367 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, you step onto the basketball court and you 368 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: on the NBA court and you play against your heroes, 369 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: and you realize, like, look, this is this is competition. 370 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: This is not a time to be a fan of anybody. 371 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: And I mean even I said something about Cleveland years 372 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: ago I. 373 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 5: Was there. 374 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: And I had said such a good line. 375 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: I had said something within the lines of nobody goes 376 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: to Cleveland on vacation after a game one and loss, 377 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: and I was I was pissed off because I had 378 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: to guard the big fella. I had to guard Daddy. 379 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Can you imagine what it feels like when you're in 380 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: the locker room and they're like, Okay, everybody's guarding. This 381 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: is who you're guarding. This who your guard, and then 382 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: you see your name and it says Shack Holy all right. 383 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: And I remember after the game, I was so pissed off, 384 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: and it was just like in the heat of the moment, 385 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: and I said something that like stuck with me for 386 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: twenty years and the fact that I'm a retired player 387 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: now and I did a travel show called No Mad 388 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: and everybody was like, yo, you got to go to Cleveland. 389 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: So I did it. I did it, and I'm not 390 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was like, I was uncomfortable about I 391 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: was like, yo, I don't know how what Like Lebron 392 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: was playing that night. I'm like, you know, what can 393 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: I handle? You know, the Bulls had lost to Cleveland, 394 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: like Lebron took us out four times. 395 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 5: So for me, it was. 396 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: It's something that you know, I gotta live with that, 397 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: Like losing those big games is as tough as it gets. 398 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: So to be able to go back to Cleveland and 399 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: give an episode about Cleveland where I could like just 400 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: share share that pain of like, you know, it's like 401 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: we win games, but it's like almost like the losses, 402 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: the bad losses, like you got to live with that forever, forever, 403 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: you know. So I'm really happy that I did that episode. 404 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: Please check out my episode on YouTube. It's called No 405 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: Mad by Joe Keem Noah We in Cleveland, and it's 406 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: it's hilarious. 407 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: Jok Noah Goes to Cleveland is a great topic. 408 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 5: I like that. 409 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: So shack as the Shacklicious Slams. They are world renowned 410 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: Hershey's can't keep them on the shelves. They're selling out 411 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: like hotcakes. If you want to eat some joking, I 412 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: don't know. If that's your thing, you can dive right in. 413 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 2: They have a question for us. 414 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: They don't have any like THHC or anything. 415 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: That is the number one question gets asked every time. 416 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you want some candy. 417 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 5: I mean you never know. 418 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: These days, the hoops are great. So Shacklicious Slams wants 419 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: to know if you were to make an all time 420 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: starting five with the best dunker at every position, the 421 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: best slam at every position, what would your starting five be? 422 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Like? 423 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: Point? Both of you got well well brainstorm first, So 424 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: let me just give you want some names or do 425 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: you want to just okay? 426 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 5: Point guard spud Web spud Web, two. 427 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 2: Guard Mike Michael Jordan, three guard Vince Carter Vince Carter 428 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: moving from the two to the three power for Sean Kemp. 429 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Sean Kemp as the four Wow and. 430 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 5: The Sinner Zion Williamson geez Man good no, because he 431 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 5: has more, he has more like mine was just one 432 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 5: hand or two or ten. He has the windmill, and 433 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 5: you know he has a little bit more flair. 434 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: What would your starting five b? 435 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean I like the the you know, drop step, 436 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: and then I'm a monkey dunk on you and put 437 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: like the Jared Dudley one. 438 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 7: No, Chris Dudley, Chris, Chris Dudley, Chris. That was the 439 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 7: most disrespectful dunk. It doesn't have to always be the windmill. 440 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 7: So I like the drop step. 441 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: I give you some names, so other than spun Nate Robinson, 442 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: I'm putting Derrick Rose as my point guard down shooting guard. 443 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: You went Michael Jordan. I was gonna go Vince Carter, 444 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: but you put Vince Carter at the three. Also options 445 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: at the three. Dominique Wilkins, Yes, doctor j oh and 446 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: Zach Levine. You could say whatever you want about careers, 447 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: but in terms of dunk contests, you replay that now 448 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense. I apologize for the language. Children. 449 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 5: Yes, number four, they heard it before they got TikTok. Yeah. 450 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: In addition to Sean Kemp, would you keep Sean Kemp 451 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: or would you go Aaron Gordon or Blake Griffin? 452 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: The Red Holes I'm gonna go Aaron Gordon and. 453 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: Then options at center other than Shaq. I've been waiting 454 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: Dwight Howard. He's won multiple dunk contest. Shaq has no 455 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: ever want a dunk contest? 456 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh supper made? 457 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: Is in the building? What do you think, Shack? Is 458 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: he in your starting five? No? 459 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 5: Never, never, never. Question. My friends are the general all 460 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 5: about giving people a break, and they want to know 461 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 5: is there a current player, former teammate, or someone else 462 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 5: who you feel deserves a break? 463 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: And why a break meaning like more credit or an 464 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: opportunity to get more shine. 465 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 5: Rudy Gobert, I mean. 466 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: Oh see you say Dwight Howard? 467 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 5: Not what did that man do to you? Shack? What 468 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: did that man do to you? 469 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Therapy session? 470 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: Okay, you want me to be honest? Yes, yes, you 471 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 5: see these people right here, they pay good money for 472 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 5: us to put on a good show, and we make 473 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 5: a lot of money. Right So, if you're going to 474 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 5: make two hundred and fifty million, put on a show 475 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 5: for the people want to see. I don't want to 476 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: see a seven foot of airball dunking when you're making 477 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 5: two hundred may I don't want to say it. I 478 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: don't want to see you getting pushed around. I don't 479 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 5: want to see you get dunked on. Like you the 480 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 5: way you play. You deserve that two hundred and fifty 481 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 5: million because you played with passion, like your father said, 482 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 5: deserve to be here. You know, show that you're thank you. 483 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 5: This kid, he's making two fifty and he's happy, and 484 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 5: I just don't like the way he plays for two 485 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: fifty because these people are here make sure we live 486 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 5: great life. So if they're gonna like, like my man 487 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: right here with his brother. I remember one time my 488 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 5: father paid twenty dollars to go to a game. It 489 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 5: was a terrible game. He damnar had a tear in 490 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 5: his eye. He's like, man, this my last twenty dollars. 491 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 5: I wanted to take it to a game, and these 492 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 5: dudes play terrible. So if the people are gonna pay 493 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: all his money and you're gonna be making all his money, 494 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: just put on a show, knock somebody on their asp 495 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 5: or something, you know, just do something. 496 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: So do you feel like the effort is not as 497 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: much as it used to be. 498 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 5: Yes, I feel that. And you know, Kenny, he said 499 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: something very interesting. Just because you're making a lot of 500 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 5: money doesn't mean you're a great player, but he's making 501 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 5: great player money. Two hundred and fifty million dollars a 502 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 5: lot of money. I never made that. You never made that. 503 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 5: It's a lot of money. So I just want people 504 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 5: like that to protect this thing of ours because it 505 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 5: can only get bigger or people can get fed up 506 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: and stop watching and stop coming to the games, and 507 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: then it's going to be back to the old day. 508 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 5: So I just want, especially our big man, protect this 509 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 5: thing of ours. 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For a great low rate you can get 541 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 5: online go to the General. 542 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: Say sometimes now time for everyone's favorite game WPS or 543 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: BPS aka white people or black. 544 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 5: People's, white people's stuff. 545 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, no, i'd to say at one time white people 546 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: stuff or black people stuff. Joe came. What I'm gonna 547 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: do is I'm just going to say a random object 548 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: and then we're going to decide what it is. Shaq 549 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: is the connoisseur. He is the commissioner of this game. 550 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: First one up, sparkling water. 551 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: I would say that's white people. 552 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: Say yes, white people love carbonation in their water. It's 553 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: sometimes it's the words sometimes more than the object. 554 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 5: No, what's crazy enough about sparkling water? When you had 555 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: a respectial for black people? When you have a restaurant 556 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 5: and you ask for water, they give you sparkling water. 557 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: That face you make, why is it spicy? You're trying 558 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: to poison me? 559 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: This one hits what Joe came the double cheek kiss 560 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: saying hi. 561 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: Oh this is a very French, very French thing to 562 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: give the kiss on the right. And they left. But 563 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, we also have a black people in Friends too, 564 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: So it's a complicated question. 565 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: It's a French people's stuff. 566 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: It's a complicated question. 567 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: Answer. 568 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 5: It's a complicated question. 569 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: Uh, crocs, crocs, O brother, That's why I love the game. 570 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: People are like as white No, that's I wear crocs. 571 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Can it be both? 572 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 573 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel like they've evolved. 574 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: Fire. 575 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: That's what we call s people as shack people stuff 576 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: wh standing up as soon as the plane lands. 577 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 5: Oh that's BPS. 578 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: That shocks me. I always see an old white do it. 579 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: But you're telling me it's BPS. 580 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 5: We got places to be brother, yeah. 581 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Uh. 582 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: And then the last one is just cinnamon cinema cinnamon 583 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: like the or cinnamon rolls, the seasoning cinnamon WPS. 584 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 5: What you said seasoning, We like cinnamon rolls. 585 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying, like you use cinnamon in cinnamon 586 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: rolls WPS. I've also never heard a white white person 587 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: nicknamed cinnamon. No, okay, I have you've met a white 588 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: person named cinnamon. 589 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: I can't tell you that story. All right. 590 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: We got nas for everyone in here for white cinnamon. 591 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 5: She had them apple a battle jeans with that dude, 592 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: get that curve. Yeah. 593 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: So when you had those early moments with Shaq and 594 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: KG and all that, and then you became the fully 595 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: formed version of yourself, when you guys had those incredible 596 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: runs with the bulls, what was your favorite part of 597 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: being an NBA player? 598 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: My favorite? You know, when you retire, all you have 599 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: left are your relationships that you have and your memories 600 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: and the arena. You know, from one day to the next, 601 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: you're playing in front twenty five thousand people every night, 602 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: and all that is over with. So, you know, I 603 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: was raised to be a competitor, but I realized that 604 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: that competitive spirit is it's over. 605 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: You know. 606 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: I try to keep my work ethic. You learn from 607 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: your ups and your downs from the journey, but to me, 608 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: it's all about like moving forward what you were doing 609 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: now and like, you know, just not being comfortable with 610 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: just you know, like I'm tired of talking about twenty 611 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: years ago, like I'm talking about I want to talk 612 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: about right now, Like yeah, I'm not I'm not done. 613 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm not done. I'm forty years old. I got 614 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: to do and and I'm really I'm really proud of that. 615 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: And just even you know, sitting here with Shaq, like 616 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, this is this is one of my heroes 617 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: and now we're able to do this. I'm talking like 618 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Jennings. The guys are having platforms where they're able 619 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: to talk about the game. 620 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 5: This is new. 621 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So just I appreciate the new opportunities that we 622 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: get as retired athletes, and uh yeah, I feel blessed. 623 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: You sound like Shaq. I mean that's just something that 624 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: Shack always talks about. 625 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 5: I have a confession and I want India and to 626 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 5: Noah first, I got some results from the Maury Povich Show, 627 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 5: and I am the father. Can you bring my baby 628 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 5: up please? 629 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: Oh it's tears. 630 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. 631 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: It was guarantee. It was guarantee. 632 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: That's a that's a lie. 633 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, baby, I know I'm ugly. I'm sorry. I 634 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 5: love you. I love you. Yep, I am the father. 635 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 5: Guess what that's sentiment right there. See see y'all didn't 636 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 5: even catch yet. 637 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: Shack just going off what what joking was saying. That's 638 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: part of the reason you love djaying is you get 639 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 2: out there and you get to feel that energy again. 640 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 5: I want to say to you, brother, we never had 641 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 5: a lot of conversations. I know we battled, but I 642 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 5: really respected you as a player. I used to love 643 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 5: your father. We never talked to anybody. Used to live 644 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 5: in Harworth. I didn't find out who he was until later, 645 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 5: and it kind of helped me understood why you played 646 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 5: the way you played and where you came from. I 647 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 5: was I'm very proud of you, very proud of your career. 648 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 5: And I know you went to your man celebration Derek 649 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 5: Row in Chicago, but hopefully they give you the same 650 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 5: respect because I know as a star player, you can't 651 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: win it without the others, and you were definitely one 652 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 5: of those others that always protect you. I'm always rebound them, 653 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 5: always made them, made him look good. So I just 654 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 5: want to give you your respect and thank you for coming. Brother. 655 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 5: Appreciate you that so much. 656 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: Give it up everybody, Joe Keim Noah. I want one 657 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: more thing because I can tell that you have a 658 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: lot of love for him. Is there a question that 659 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: you've had for him that you've never had a chance 660 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: to ask him? 661 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: Actually, I do. 662 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 5: Let me say one more thing. When you said what 663 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 5: you said for Cleveland, the dudes are looking at me. 664 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 5: I was like, no, he's right, I'm only here a 665 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: year or two. Anyway, I'm listen. The day we lost 666 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 5: when I tell you, we jumped in the car and 667 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 5: drove back to Florida the same night we lost a seven. 668 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 5: I didn't even pack my I was out of there. 669 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 5: Gone so much respect to your brother. Thank you man. 670 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: So I have a question for you, because you know, 671 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: since retirement and even drinking like your work ethic, like 672 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: you are working non stop, how do you balance like 673 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: your life because you're djaying you're on TV. I mean, 674 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: you're obviously a very successful businessman, but it looks like 675 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: it you never stop, Like how many days a week 676 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: do you work? 677 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 5: Every day? My schedule is booked out for the next 678 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: three years and then I would like to say I 679 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 5: want to be done, but probably not. But you know, 680 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 5: for me, it's just all about having the opportunity to 681 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 5: do so. My father always just to say to me, 682 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 5: it could be worse. I never really complained, you know. 683 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 5: That's why I like helping people. So I like making 684 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 5: people smile because eventually one day Shaq will be gone 685 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 5: start or made diminish or you know, but I always 686 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 5: say it could be worse. I just love taking advantage 687 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 5: of opportunities. Everything in my life is basketball related. I 688 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 5: got a great team around me, got a great team 689 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 5: around me, So got my callings, I got my drone, 690 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 5: my d Max, my slices. All my teammates say, know, 691 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 5: Shane help with the podcast, and you know they do 692 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 5: a great job. So for all the children out there, 693 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 5: when things are very hard, you just simplify to where 694 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 5: it works for you and make sure you always listen 695 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 5: to your mommy and dad, listen to your prayers, because 696 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 5: I definitely wouldn't be here without my mommy. And Daddy 697 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 5: goes for you too, Jared. 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It 733 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: just speaks volumes like Joel Embii didn't start playing basketball 734 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: until he was seventeen years old. For him to be 735 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: an MVP. It's you know, you don't hear stories like that. 736 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: And when I go back to the Motherland. It's like 737 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: basketball is growing so much. There's definitely an infrastructure thing. 738 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: And you know, I would love one day to be 739 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: able to do that with you. 740 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 5: Yes, so I will U. We'll try numbers and back. 741 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 5: I've actually never been there for us to go over 742 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 5: there and do something like that with a person like you. 743 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 5: I would love to do it, So yes, we will 744 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 5: make it happen. 745 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: Mess joke, you know, everybody, Thank you from South Jamaica, queens, 746 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,479 Speaker 2: hardcore hip hop pioneers. They set all of us in motion. 747 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 2: Give some mother noise to ONYX everybody. Oh, we could curse. 748 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank. 749 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 2: You, Shaq. This is surreal for me. You're smiling right now. 750 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: I love him, but I love him. I love him, 751 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: I love I love. 752 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 9: Shack Lsu Tigers. I love Shacks Lsho man. 753 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 5: I've been knowing y'all for what twenty thirty years. My 754 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 5: favorite interview is that Champlain interview. What you want me 755 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 5: to do? 756 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: You can't do nothing. You can't do nothing. 757 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. 758 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: You can't do nothing, big man. 759 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 5: What you're gonna do about it? Big man? You ain't 760 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 5: gonna do nothing, big man. 761 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was looking at me. Classic classic. 762 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 5: It was a classic. But you know when I when 763 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 5: I was doing my Shacklicious Candy slams, your song came up. 764 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 5: So HERSHEYT said, Hey, you think we can get Onyx 765 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 5: to you know, be partner with us and come do 766 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 5: some other final four, I said, I know the guys, 767 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 5: we have mad love for each other. So I want 768 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 5: to say thank you for coming. I appreciate you guys. 769 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 5: You know you. I've I've asked you guys do a 770 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 5: couple of events. You guys have never turned me down, 771 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 5: So I love you for that. You appreciate us. Yes, 772 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 5: thank you, big man Man. 773 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: Shack delicious. It's you can't even say the word without 774 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 2: hearing the music right after it. H I don't care, though, 775 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: because I love when there's people that understand hip hop music. 776 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: What Shack has meant to that? Because his album we 777 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 2: always play every single song's got someone crazy? What does 778 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 2: he mean to the world of hip hop music? See, 779 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: Shack is. 780 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 9: Not only a basketball player, but he's a lyricist, not 781 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 9: a rapper, a lyricist. 782 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 3: Did you hear Shaq on a new Redman album with 783 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 3: all them people from Jersey? 784 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 4: Yo? 785 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 3: He went crazy on that. 786 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 9: So what he means to us is, to me, the 787 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 9: spirit of hip hop is basketball and hip hop. When 788 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 9: I came up, there was this thing called Baisley Park. 789 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 9: The first time I ever wrapped in Baisley Park, I was. 790 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: Sixteen years old. But before the rapping, there was a 791 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: basketball game. 792 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 9: These kids called Supreme Team was playing Paid in Full, 793 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 9: which was Rock Him Team, and it was like this 794 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 9: big thing in the street and they would have the 795 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 9: DJ playing the music while they had the basketball players, 796 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 9: and you saw all the cars outside. But when it 797 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 9: went dark, they had the big speakers out and then 798 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 9: the rappings started. 799 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 3: So Shack represents both of those coaches. 800 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 9: He's a rapper, lyricist and one of the best basketball 801 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 9: players in the world, so it's the same culture. 802 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: Did you use chat GPT for your lyrics? 803 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: No? 804 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 5: I did not. 805 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 2: What is your lyrics writing process? Can you take us 806 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 2: into that. 807 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 5: I gotta hear the beat first and then I go 808 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 5: go go ahead, go with the beat, go to beat, 809 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 5: and it'll be boxing. So I hear the beat first 810 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 5: and then I go I know her girl and her 811 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 5: name is send them in. Now your turn, Yeah, give 812 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 5: me a beat? Oh yeah, hell, come up. 813 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 2: We're in the big pot on with the mo squad. 814 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 2: I only like your girl, if she got a nice bottle, 815 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 2: take it to the spot, get it hot. I'm gonna 816 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 2: turn it around and put bottom to top. And it 817 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: sounds like there's a reason we work well together. 818 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 5: Hey, this is why I got a friends like. I 819 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 5: was not expecting that that's a big podcast. 820 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: Well, excuse me. 821 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 3: Shack they getting invited to the barbecue. 822 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate that. I collect the invitations. I've never 823 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: used them, but I collect them. Shack their song that 824 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 2: they did when you came out with the Shack list 825 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 2: of Slams and the song Slam. Can you take me 826 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 2: back to that, because that's when you're coming into the 827 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: NBA and all that what it felt like the energy 828 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 2: of that summer and that movement. 829 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 5: I don't think they get the credit, but I think 830 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 5: they created what's now known as the marsh pit because 831 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 5: because every time we heard Slam, even in the class 832 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 5: I was, I was a professional player, and slam come out. 833 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 5: But every time that song came out in Orlando, me 834 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 5: and d Scott would just start body slamming people in 835 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 5: the crowds. You know, you don't just start throwing them 836 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 5: out the way. So you know, they definitely they know 837 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 5: the impact they have on hip hop. And again, I 838 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 5: remember when this is coming out, I was meeting with 839 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 5: the executives from Rehearshay. They was like, well, I don't 840 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 5: think all that's gonna let us use the song. I 841 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 5: was like, just call them and say say, Diesel, you 842 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 5: know see what happens. 843 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 3: You know that, And we got the remix for you, 844 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 3: remix appreciate you. 845 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: Guys. 846 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 2: Got a tour coming up. 847 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we got a lot of touring. Man, We're 848 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 3: gonna be on camp. 849 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 9: We're going to Canada, We're going to uh Germany and 850 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 9: this thing in Germany, got this thing called Oba Gold. 851 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 3: You gotta be thirty years old to. 852 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 5: Get in the concert. 853 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: You can't twenty nine. 854 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 3: You gotta be thirty to get in there. Lovely concerts. 855 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 9: We got conscerts with DJ Cassidy, which is was one 856 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 9: of my good friends in Atlanta City August seven for 857 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 9: all the iconic rappers, Nice and Smooth Money Love, Big 858 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 9: Daddy Fresh, Big Daddy kingees this man, we just love 859 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 9: hip hop. 860 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 2: I hear you're getting into directing too, Yeah, man. 861 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 9: I directed my first movie called The Tunnel, Fatio stars 862 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 9: the Tunnel. 863 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 3: The Tunnel was a nightclub. 864 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you've ever been to the Tunnel? Yeah? 865 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: What yah, Peter guns Lot three, get out of here? 866 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: Can I get a tunnel story? 867 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 5: Shock? 868 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 9: So I directed my first film, because you know, I've 869 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 9: been doing movie since strapped with Forest Whittaker in. 870 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety three, ninety two. 871 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 9: Actually, I was filming my first movie before the album 872 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 9: came out, So I was going from the barbershop to 873 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 9: the movie set to the studio. So that was nineteen 874 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 9: ninety two, and thirty three years later we got The Tunnel, my. 875 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 3: First director of debut, stinking to start a movie. You 876 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,479 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Make sure you go check out real. 877 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 2: That's awesome, man. 878 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 5: Question. I guess I've been knowing you guys for a 879 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 5: long time. I don't know how y'all met. You tell 880 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 5: me how you met and how the name are your brothers? 881 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 2: Cutgins? 882 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 5: Oh, sisters firsts. 883 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 9: I met him when I was two years old and 884 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 9: my aunt brought him through. I was like, who is 885 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 9: this guy? I was like, he trying to take my out, 886 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 9: you know my cereals. He's trying to believe me. 887 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 2: I try to burn him up at a mattress. 888 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 5: I got a cousin like that. He's sitting right there. 889 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 5: D Baccus, Yeah, yeah, that's Uncle Jerome right there. 890 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: He tried to jack me for my seat. 891 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 5: So, so, you guys, basketball fans, who you like tonight? 892 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 3: Yuka Misson, listen, man, I'm a basketball fan, bro. You 893 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 894 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 9: I live in New York City and the closest thing 895 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 9: to New York City is Connecticut. So we're gonna go 896 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 9: with Connecticut to night. I see a lot of Michigan here. 897 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, man, I'm gonna keep it real. We know 898 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 9: y'all got the mind, stars and all that, but you 899 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 9: know what, I like Dan Hurley. I like the way 900 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 9: he coaches, and I think Connecticut has that grit in 901 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 9: that grim. When I saw that game when they came back, 902 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 9: I think it was nineteen points and they came back 903 00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 9: and won. 904 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 5: That shows you heart. 905 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 9: That's what Onyx got. We got heart, and that's what 906 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 9: I'm going with tonight. I'm going with the heart, straight up. 907 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 2: I'm going with the winner, whoever wins. It is funny though, because, 908 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 2: like Shaq, I was watching clips of you against Latner 909 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: and Bobby Hurley. Dan is like the opposite, you know 910 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it's the y Yang like Bobby 911 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 2: was like the All American wonder boy and Dan is 912 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: like head button referees. It's crazy, it was real. It 913 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 2: was not Ai. 914 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 5: How Come how come we didn't get a technical foul? 915 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 2: He put his head? 916 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: He called it like a get a technical foul. It's 917 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: a great question. 918 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 2: If I had to guess, if I had guess that, 919 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 2: that was such a crazy shot moment, everybody exploded. Dan 920 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 2: Hurley's Mom's on TV cursing the refs, looking around, and 921 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 2: next thing you know, Dan Hurley's Head's on his head. Pause, 922 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: and it was just I think he just got so 923 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 2: caught up. I know it was crazy. That was after 924 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 2: the dude that was WPS headbutting a referee and getting 925 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: away with it. WPS, yes, because if a brother would 926 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 2: have did that, Are you kidding me? He'd be he'd 927 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 2: be in court right now, in court right So to 928 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 2: wrap it up, because these guys are about to take 929 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 2: the stage, just let them know how much you care 930 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 2: about them, because I know you don't work with people 931 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 2: unless you really care about. 932 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 5: I just want to know I love you. Guys. I 933 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 5: appreciate you guys. On the way to the game, I 934 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 5: was bumping all that pick him up, think of that 935 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 5: was right there. I had a van called the Van 936 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 5: of Death. It was a big twenty passion van but 937 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 5: it had thirty five eighteen inch speakers in the back 938 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 5: and two seats of death. So that that oh nah, yeah, 939 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 5: yeah that one. So appreciate you guys for getting me 940 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 5: ready to go to the game. Thank you for coming. 941 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 5: I want to say, I don't know what you guys 942 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 5: are doing. You still look the same and you look good, 943 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 5: and I wish you well and anything you need for me, 944 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 5: I'll be there. 945 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 2: Give up some love for Onyx, everybody. You the big man, 946 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 2: all right, shak We got to get off the stage, man, 947 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 2: because Honest is about to tear it up. 948 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 9: Oh Shaq is about to start slam dancing, So get 949 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 9: out the way, y' are. 950 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 2: We got a concert after this. I think we're doing 951 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 2: a dunk contest outside a lot of energy. And again, 952 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 2: thank you guys so much. Man, We really really appreciate you. 953 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Indianapolis. 954 00:50:41,200 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, this has been a playmaker production, right,