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Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up? What is Up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast, the official podcast of New York Mets. Never

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Speaker 2: Gonna get tired of saying that we just wrapped up

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Speaker 2: a very short series out in Houston against the Astros,

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Speaker 2: which didn't really go our way. Houston, we have a problem,

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Speaker 2: maybe not really. Actually, we're gonna talk to you about

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Speaker 2: why it's it's not a problem, one being the Houstons

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Speaker 2: are really good. In two, there was some things that

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Speaker 2: were positive to take out of this game. We're always

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Speaker 2: gonna find a nice spin zone on this so that's

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Speaker 2: exactly what we're gonna do in this episode. But we

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Speaker 2: will also talk about the ugly because that's what we do.

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Speaker 2: We go through all the games, as you know, recap

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Speaker 2: everything that happened, as well as preview the next series.

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Speaker 2: We also have mailbag to talk about and a little

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Speaker 2: bit of fun Mets history, along with a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a minor league draft because Max Schurzer of course,

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Speaker 2: made his first rehab start. But before we do get

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Speaker 2: bring in my co host, James Sheiano. James, how you doing,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good Man? Back in the Regular Digs. Back

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Speaker 2: in the Regular Digs, fresh off our first official episode

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Speaker 2: with the Mets felt great. Two technically, oh yeah, two

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Speaker 2: technically because we did drop the bonus episode for you

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Speaker 2: guys yesterday, the Todd zealand David con interviews, which were

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Speaker 2: awesome and if you didn't listen to those, go give

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Speaker 2: them a listen. After this one, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 2: just start talking about this Astro series. It wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: No, We cautioned you guys on Tuesday that Trevor Williams

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Speaker 1: against the Astros was going to be a difficult proposition,

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Speaker 1: and you kind of sense right off the bat that

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Speaker 1: that was a game that would be unlikely to win

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Speaker 1: for the Mets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Trevor Williams has been great for us. I think

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Speaker 2: this year in the role that he's had. He kind

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Speaker 2: of was this stretch man at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 2: and because of all the injuries, he's now kind of

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Speaker 2: to be fair, he didn't really pitch poorly, Like his

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Speaker 2: pitching performance is not the reason we lost this game.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not trying to disparage Trevor Williams anyway. Almost

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Speaker 1: any pitcher would have a tough time against an Astro's lineup,

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Speaker 1: and especially one like Trevor Williams doesn't have as many

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Speaker 1: tools in his tool bag as some other pitchers in baseball.

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Speaker 1: But from the first inning, Astros hit four balls pretty solidly.

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Speaker 1: They had two more in the second. You kind of

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Speaker 1: the third inning began, Josey al Tuve hit a home run,

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Speaker 1: jord On Alvarez hit a massive home run. I told everybody,

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Speaker 1: you don't want youord On Alvarez facing Trevor williamscause bad

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Speaker 1: things are going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I was right, Yeah, you're Don Alvarez casually having one

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Speaker 2: of the best offensive seasons in off baseball. His numbers

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Speaker 2: something that we've talked about in the past on our podcast.

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Speaker 2: A pitcher like Trevor Williams facing the lineup the second time,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if Trevor Williams had left this outing after two winnings,

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Speaker 1: it would have been fine. That kind of shows you

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Speaker 2: This is just kind of what Jose Arira Ketty does. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: We really in this series specifically felt like we missed

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Speaker 2: and he just didn't get those opportunities because he was,

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Speaker 1: And you kind of felt that a lot in the

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Speaker 1: missing McNeil there.

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Speaker 2: game really got broken open though when Chase and Shreeve

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Speaker 2: feels like kind of the consecutive outings for him, and

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Speaker 2: and I just don't really know why. I'm not really

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Speaker 1: He acknowledged that. Yeah, But the other side of that coin,

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Speaker 1: a Donnis Medina came in after Shreve and did a

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Speaker 1: really really, really nice job saving this bullpen on a

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Speaker 1: day when it had to work very hard after a

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Speaker 1: four game series with the Marlins, no off day. That

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Speaker 1: was very nice. It kind of gave the Mets a

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Speaker 1: little bit of breathing room, not breathing room, that's not

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Speaker 1: Did you like it? Did you hate it? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't really care that much about the pimp job.

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Speaker 1: You're beating a team by a lot in your Jose Siri,

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Speaker 1: he also hit the ball onto the tracks. No, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: very clear that there is a feud and you're going

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Speaker 1: to get someone plunked on your own team, which Dusty

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Speaker 1: Baker alluded to. Yeah, but that didn't happen because that's

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Speaker 1: Mets and Astros there's no bad blood. Escobar did take

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Speaker 1: Lindor probably even took exception, but it was whatever Jose Siri,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean he really smoked that ball.

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Speaker 1: at home runs before this happened. Did either of them

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Speaker 2: No, they put their head down there risk okay, there

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Speaker 2: there was no watching it. I mean, Pete crushed it.

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Speaker 2: mean Dusty Baker having his comments too.

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Speaker 1: I think it kind of just showed that they weren't pleased.

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Speaker 2: wasn't that big. Yeah, I'm sure it got people outside

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Speaker 1: a series. This was the poop fest, This was the game.

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Speaker 2: One was just kind of lost from the beginning you

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Speaker 2: was maybe a chance because Jose or Keati. But at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, the Astros hitters were just

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Speaker 2: simply better than the Mets, and they end up getting

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Speaker 2: He keeps you off balance. That's one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: There was what no outs at this point, right, and

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Speaker 2: outs and we really only came out of it with

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Speaker 2: three runs was a little bit tough to swallow, especially

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Speaker 2: for a game that you don't go down four nothing,

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Speaker 2: five to nothing early and think you can win one.

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Speaker 2: And at that moment it wasn't just that I thought

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Speaker 2: the metsica come back. I thought they're gonna win the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially also because I mentioned this in the preview

438
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Speaker 1: last episode, This Astros bullpen is incredible statistically, probably the

439
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Speaker 1: best or second best bullpen in all baseball, and you

440
00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,520
Speaker 1: saw that on display with Standard getting out of that

441
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Speaker 1: jam with flying collars again a hundred mile in our

442
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Speaker 1: fastball White beut Slyer. Hector Naries, who is not the

443
00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,960
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies Hectoranarius anymore. This guy is reborn, reinvented, renewed,

444
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Speaker 1: and he put the Mets down with the East, which

445
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Speaker 1: is something we've almost never seen. Hectanaries too.

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Speaker 2: No. Yeah, I saw a lot of tweets about people

447
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Speaker 2: being like, oh, Hector Narius is in like this is good.

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Speaker 1: I would have agreed with you if he was still

449
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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: But because it's with the astros a pitching factory, you

451
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Speaker 2: just you knew he was he got you gotta know,

452
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Speaker 2: he's a different pitcher.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of pitching factories, could you guys imagine a Rafael

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Speaker 1: Montero diving up the bottom of the zone, pounding the

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Speaker 1: strike zone, getting guys to roll over on everything. That

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Speaker 1: one hurt. That one hurt real bad.

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Speaker 2: That was that one stung a little bit, just because

458
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Speaker 2: he was supposed to be our top prospect. He was

459
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Speaker 2: the guy who was hyped up over cindergarden other names.

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Speaker 1: Oh was that Rafael Montero's major league debut the day

461
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Speaker 1: before Jacob the grounds major league debut were the Mets

462
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Speaker 1: were shut out by Masahiro Tanaka on a Friday night.

463
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Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't want to think about that, And

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Speaker 1: I also ingrained in my mind, I don't really want

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Speaker 1: to talk about Rafael Montero anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to forget that he was dominant against us.

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Speaker 1: Guys are really good, then, Ryan Presley comes into ninth inning,

468
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Speaker 1: is throwing ninety seven with a ridiculously moving curve ball

469
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Speaker 1: that goes down, it goes out. That's had no chance

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Speaker 1: against these relievers. So you had that opportunity in the

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Speaker 1: sixth inning when it seemed like Dusty Baker might have

472
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Speaker 1: left Luis Garcia in for a little bit too long.

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Speaker 1: Third time through the order, basically only throwing fast balls.

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Speaker 1: You had your shot, you couldn't cash in, and you

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Speaker 1: lose the game.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you lose the game. Big shots to our bullpen.

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Speaker 2: Though again we talked about a Donnis Medina stepping up

478
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Speaker 2: in Game one. How about you want Lopez, Tommy Hunter, Joelie,

479
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Speaker 2: the guys that maybe you don't expect to have the

480
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Speaker 2: biggest of impacts. And granted we weren't winning, so it

481
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Speaker 2: wasn't high pressure situations. But what did we get almost

482
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Speaker 2: four or five innings out of these guys of really

483
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Speaker 2: good baseball.

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Speaker 1: Three four and the thirds innings between those three guys

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Speaker 1: with nowhere in runts. Yeah, I mean against this Astros lineup.

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Speaker 1: Joan Lopez lookd really good, fall hero man. I love

487
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Speaker 1: that guy.

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Speaker 2: And of course Tommy Hunter, the ledge of Tommy Hunters,

489
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Speaker 2: the guy still have to give up a run for

490
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Speaker 2: the New York Mets.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of funny, honest. It's also seems like it

492
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Speaker 1: was basically the same time of year two when he

493
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Speaker 1: became his legend last year, and it was it was

494
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Speaker 1: a brief. You know, our bride the stouts burn our

495
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 1: bride thet stars burnt out the quickest. But I'm happy

496
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Speaker 1: to see Tommy Hunter back and I can't wait to

497
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Speaker 1: get some some more data on his pitch movement to

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Speaker 1: see if there's actually something that can stick around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was discussing he's retired ten

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Speaker 1: of the eleven batters he's faced this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Tommy Hunter. This we've talked about ABC Team Bullpen,

502
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Speaker 2: this Sea Team Bullpen. This series really stepped up, and

503
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Speaker 2: it's got to make you feel better. I know it's

504
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Speaker 2: really hard Mets fans to feel good about anything after

505
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Speaker 2: losing to the Astros like we did, but at least

506
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Speaker 2: it's got to feel good knowing that our guys who

507
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Speaker 2: aren't supposed to be doing the heavy lifting actually can

508
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Speaker 2: make an impact on this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that kind of goes to show something else

510
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Speaker 1: we mentioned last episode that while this Mets bullpen has

511
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Speaker 1: seemed bad at times, I think every bullpen in baseball

512
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Speaker 1: seems bad at times because every single time your bullpening

513
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Speaker 1: blows a game or gives up a collection of runs,

514
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Speaker 1: it feels like, I don't know, the world is falling

515
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Speaker 1: down around you and there's nothing else that can happen.

516
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Speaker 1: It's like knowing offensive lineman in football.

517
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Speaker 2: Knowing the guy's name is probably one of the worst things,

518
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Speaker 2: unless he's like elite all pro kind of thing. But

519
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Speaker 2: if you know who your left guard is, that's probably not.

520
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Speaker 1: A good thing. Same with like the third corner.

521
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you know the guy's name is not good.

522
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Speaker 2: But it's like kind of with baseball when you blow save.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, it's just a lot easier to remember

524
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Speaker 2: the bad.

525
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Speaker 1: Than it is the good. Definitely, But gotta shout these

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Speaker 1: guys out because in this series, the Mets got less

527
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Speaker 1: than eight innings from their two starters combined, which is

528
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Speaker 1: a big change from what the Mets have gotten this year.

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Speaker 1: So glad that we were able to dip into the

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Speaker 1: depth of our bullpen. Also, with Seth Lugo out on

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Speaker 1: the paternity list end Game one of this series, Drew

532
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Speaker 1: Smith was unavailable. Edmond was probably unavailable, so we don't

533
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Speaker 1: really have a lot to work with bullpen wise, and

534
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Speaker 1: big shout out to these guys for getting it done

535
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Speaker 1: and bridging us to the next series. Yeah, Mets.

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Speaker 2: One of the few series losses that we have this year,

537
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Speaker 2: losing two to the Houston Astros. One of the few

538
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Speaker 2: times that we've lost back to back games all season long.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the fifth time. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people, I think want to

541
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Speaker 2: jump to conclusions, get really aggressive, talk about trades, talk

542
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Speaker 2: about you know, what do we need to do, what

543
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Speaker 2: do we need to change. The Mets haven't lost three

544
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Speaker 2: straight all year, so the fact that they lost to

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Speaker 2: the Astros, who are one of the best teams in

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Speaker 2: all of baseball.

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Speaker 1: So the Mets lost both these games in Houston, the

548
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Speaker 1: first time they've been swept all year. For everybody not

549
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Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, I used air quotes because I don't

550
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Speaker 1: really count a two game series as a sweep. But

551
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Speaker 1: if Mets fans want to think back a little bit

552
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Speaker 1: before we kind of move away from the Astros, if

553
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Speaker 1: it feels like we have now been able to win

554
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Speaker 1: a game in Houston a long time, you would be correct.

555
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Speaker 1: The Mets have actually lost eight consecutive games in Houston,

556
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Speaker 1: dating all the way back to two thy and eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually have the box score up here. We're

558
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Speaker 2: gonna have some fun. We like to drop some random

559
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Speaker 2: facts and numbers every once in a while. Name, guys

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Speaker 2: and names.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: May fifteenth, twenty eleven, the Mets beat the Astros seven

563
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Speaker 2: to four. Chris Capijuana was on the mound for the

564
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Speaker 2: Mets that game. That's actually the second time that season

565
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Speaker 2: he had beaten the Astros, which is kind of a

566
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Speaker 2: weird coincidence that a team that you don't play too often.

567
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Speaker 2: The Astros were also in the National League still at

568
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Speaker 2: this time, which is also crazy to talk about. Want

569
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Speaker 2: to say, Mets lineup Jose Reyes, Josh Toley was hitting two,

570
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Speaker 2: David Wright three, Beltron four, Jason Bay five, Daniel Murphy six,

571
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Speaker 2: Justin Turner playing second base, hitting seventh, Jason Pridey playing

572
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Speaker 2: center field, hitting eighth, and then Chris Capuano on the mound.

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Speaker 2: The highlights of this game. Justin Turner hit a home

574
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Speaker 2: run and a double and drove in five runs and

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Speaker 2: the Mets win this one.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable Jason Isringhausen got a hold for the Mets in

577
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Speaker 1: this game. Taylor Buckles pitch for the Mets. K Rod

578
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Speaker 1: got to save.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are some deep cuts here for you

580
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Speaker 2: Mets fans. That's how long it's been since we've won

581
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Speaker 2: a game in Houston. It has been quite some time.

582
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Speaker 1: We were freshman high school. Yeah, oh my.

583
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Speaker 2: God, I don't want to think about me as a

584
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Speaker 2: freshman right now, towy six, it's eleven years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh god, awful, terrible, shocking, but that's it. Tough

586
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Speaker 1: to win these games here. Luckily, we will get the

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Speaker 1: Astros at home next week, though, so everyone get excited

588
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Speaker 1: for that. After this road series in Miami, we're coming

589
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Speaker 1: back for which should be another fun two game set

590
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Speaker 1: against the Astros at home. Let's look just sweep them there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, And it's also weird that that's another two

592
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Speaker 1: game series Tuesday Wednesday. Yeah, exactly like this one. This

593
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Speaker 1: schedule is bizarre.

594
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Speaker 2: No, it's super strange. Now, the Astra series wasn't fun,

595
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Speaker 2: but we do have some good news coming here. Max

596
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Speaker 2: Scherzer Mad Max. Of course, we've been itching for this

597
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Speaker 2: guy to come back, and it looks like he's a

598
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Speaker 2: step closer to being back on this New York Mets team.

599
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Speaker 2: He made a rehab start out in Binghamton, and James,

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Speaker 2: I know you got the stats on him.

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Speaker 1: How do you fare he fited pretty well. I mean,

602
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Speaker 1: we always like to say whenever a guy does extraordinarily

603
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Speaker 1: well in one of these rehabs starts, he's back, and

604
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Speaker 1: when they're not, when they do something even kind of

605
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Speaker 1: not that good, they're working on stuff. Scherzer face fourteen batters,

606
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Speaker 1: got six strikeouts, which I hope Max Scherzer would do

607
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Speaker 1: even at eighty five percent against double A players. Gave

608
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Speaker 1: up three hits and a home run, though on his

609
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Speaker 1: last battery of the game before he was removed, which

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Speaker 1: I believe was in the fourth inning. Yeah, got to

611
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Speaker 1: about fifty five sixty pitches in this one, So it

612
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Speaker 1: seems like that means he's one step away from throwing

613
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Speaker 1: seventy five to eighty's. We still don't know officially whether

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Speaker 1: that is going to come again with a minor league

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Speaker 1: affiliate or with the Mets this coming Sunday. I'd say,

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Speaker 1: right now, we're so close to this point where I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't rush it. I would do everything possible to make

618
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Speaker 1: sure that everything is perfect before he steps on the

619
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Speaker 1: mound at City Field, hopefully next weekend against the Texas Rangers.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that we're as close as we are

621
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Speaker 1: and it's we're still not yet in July makes me

622
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Speaker 1: so warm and fuzzy inside.

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Speaker 2: You know, we should be using a little bit of

624
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Speaker 2: kiddy gloves here with Max schers or we don't want

625
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Speaker 2: to rush him back because this we know baseball season

626
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Speaker 2: is long. We need him for the end of the season,

627
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Speaker 2: we need him for the long summer that's coming up here.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to rush him back to face.

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Speaker 1: The Marlins and in a start at home. No, no

630
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Speaker 1: on the road now, oh yeah, run in Miami.

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Speaker 2: But to be fair, I think the most memorable thing

632
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Speaker 2: about this entire game, though, is what Max Scherzer said

633
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Speaker 2: after the game. He was talking to some reporters and

634
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Speaker 2: he said, I want to get out of there so bad.

635
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Speaker 2: I want to be in the big leagues, not be

636
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Speaker 2: a rumble pony. And this kind of caused a little

637
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Speaker 2: bit of a stir some big, diehard rumble Ponies fans

638
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 2: out there. And to be fair, I get it, that's

639
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Speaker 2: one of the better names I think in minor league baseball.

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Speaker 1: Definitely one of the better names in minor league baseball,

641
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Speaker 1: but there are also so many fantastic names across minor

642
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Speaker 1: leage baseball, some old, some new, North South East West.

643
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Speaker 1: Even though there are a lot less minor league team

644
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Speaker 1: than the word few years ago, it's some amazing names

645
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: have still stuck around. It's that's something I think would

646
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Speaker 1: be fun for the two of us to maybe, you know,

647
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Speaker 1: draft right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, spark a little spark, a little fun conversation. You

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Speaker 2: guys at home, watching or listening, whatever you can do,

650
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Speaker 2: let us know on Twitter or any social media, even

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Speaker 2: in the YouTube comments sections, who do you think had

652
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Speaker 2: the best draft? Because that's exactly what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make what five picks?

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Speaker 1: I think five three. We'll see how we fail out

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Speaker 1: to the third, okay, and I'll do a snake draft. Yeah,

656
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Speaker 1: of course, all right, you want to go first, so

657
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Speaker 1: you want me to go first, you go first? All right,

658
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go first, and I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 1: go with the Rocket City trash pandas their logos phenomenal,

660
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Speaker 1: the name's phenomenal. Minor league Baseball's fun and the name

661
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Speaker 1: trash pandas that's a fun name. Now I don't know

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Speaker 1: where rocket City is. I don't. I have no clue

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Speaker 1: rocket City. I think it might be Alabama. My my

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Speaker 1: knowledge of locations, you know where I think that is.

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Speaker 1: I do think that is Huntsville, Alabama, because Drew, he

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Speaker 1: does the Rocket City moon Man.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to our friend, not the expert, big YouTuber,

668
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Speaker 2: good friend of our but yeah, rocket City trash Pain.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be my number one overall pick. I was

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Speaker 1: a good pick. I thought you were going there. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of why I gave you the pick. I have

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Speaker 1: two now, I think you're gonna be pretty fun. First one,

673
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Speaker 1: which I think is a really fun name, the evert

674
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Speaker 1: Aqua sox. That's a good one. Aqua socks doesn't even

675
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Speaker 1: make any sense, but you can't put the sock and water.

676
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Speaker 1: I remember the evert Aqua socks.

677
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Speaker 2: I don't know if their jersey are still like this,

678
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Speaker 2: but back in the day had elite Camo jerseys with

679
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Speaker 2: blues and greens and whites, all these crazy colors, and

680
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Speaker 2: the jerseys were sick.

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Speaker 1: Those are sick, but actually I don't even know that sick.

682
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Speaker 1: Take that out ever, the Aqua Sox. Just the bizarre

683
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Speaker 1: name doesn't make any sex. My next doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: My next pick is a fun one rip to the

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Speaker 1: Sugarland Skiers. But born now out of that is the

686
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Speaker 1: Sugarland Space Cowboys. That is my second pickle. You stole

687
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Speaker 1: my pick. You stole my pick.

688
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to scramble for another one here. They're

689
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Speaker 2: jerseys and everything as well. The branding is phenomenal Space Cowboys.

690
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Speaker 2: That's also the Astros, which is kind of topical a

691
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Speaker 2: little bit. My second pick is gonna be the Richmond

692
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Speaker 2: Flying Squirrels. So we got you McNeil call him the

693
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Speaker 2: flying Squirrel. We gotta give some love to the Richmond

694
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Speaker 2: Flying Squirrels with another great nickname, another great logo. Shout

695
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Speaker 2: out to Richmond, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Richmond, fun town, good sitting. I've honestly never spent

697
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Speaker 1: any time in Richmond. I've been there a few times,

698
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Speaker 1: almost went to that College's a cool place to hang,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: And then for my final pick here and pick number three,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a little bit of a homer.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: I gotta show some love here to the Mets. I

704
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Speaker 2: think the Brooklyn Cyclones. I really like the Brooklyn Cyclones.

705
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Speaker 2: The logo's phenomenal, it's a classic logo. The Cyclones is

706
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Speaker 2: cool because of course the roller coaster out in Coney Island,

707
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Speaker 2: and it's just, I think overall, just one of the

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Speaker 2: better minor league organizations from a branding perspective in the

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Speaker 2: entire league. So for me, Brooklyn Cyclones, call me a homer.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Mets fan.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I mean, how many baseball stadiums are there on

712
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Speaker 1: a beach in the whole world.

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Speaker 2: Can't be many, No, can't be many. The Cyclones are elite.

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Speaker 1: Fun time, fun time. Shout out to the seven line

715
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Speaker 1: having their event. I think at Brooklyn Cyclones game this

716
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Speaker 1: weekend should be coming up. Yeah. So if we're all

717
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Speaker 1: gonna stick with three, I have my third pick right now,

718
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Speaker 1: ready to go. A team that is near and dear

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Speaker 1: than my heart. A really funny name, the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp.

720
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Speaker 1: That's a good one. Miami Marlins affiliate. That is a

721
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Speaker 1: hell of a name right there.

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Speaker 2: There are just so many good names in minor league baseball.

723
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Speaker 2: When we didn't even mention the Biscuits, that's a classic one,

724
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Speaker 2: the Batavia Muckdogs.

725
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Speaker 1: Muckdogs. Yeah, I think I saw the wood Ducks, and

726
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Speaker 1: I think there's also the Rubber Ducks. We have the

727
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Speaker 1: Frisco Roughriders, the Midland RockHounds, the Hillsborough Hops. The Hillsborough

728
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Speaker 1: Hops is another. I'm a sucker for a literation.

729
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Speaker 2: The names in minor league baseball are fun. I want you, guys, though,

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Speaker 2: to give your opinion. Who do you think had a

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Speaker 2: better draft?

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Speaker 1: Me or James.

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Speaker 2: Let us know in the YouTube comments. If you're on Twitter, Instagram,

734
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Speaker 2: wherever you're seeing this, comment who won this draft? We'd

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Speaker 2: love to hear what you guys have to say.

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Speaker 1: I'm scrolling right now. The Clinton lumber Kings. I don't

737
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Speaker 1: even is that a real one. These might be some

738
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Speaker 1: old ones now on this Google page. But the Salem Volcanoes.

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Speaker 1: That's funny.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Minor

741
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Speaker 2: league baseball always a good time. And hopefully Max Shuser

742
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Speaker 2: is right. Hopefully he is not a rumble pony anymore.

743
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Speaker 2: We want him back in city field, healthy as a New.

744
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Speaker 1: York met healthy, comfortable and ready.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now leads us to the mail bag, because, of course,

746
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Speaker 2: two game series a little bit of a shorter episode,

747
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Speaker 2: but we want to make sure that you guys get

748
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Speaker 2: some interaction with us. That's one of the things we

749
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Speaker 2: love to do on this podcast is get involved with

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Speaker 2: the Mets fans. So we ask you guys on Twitter

751
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Speaker 2: at Mets up to give us your questions for the Mailbag,

752
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Speaker 2: and we got a bunch of good questions. We're gonna

753
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Speaker 2: get dive into as many as we possibly can't give

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Speaker 2: you guys shout outs as well, so make sure you're

755
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Speaker 2: following us so that the next mail Bag episode you

756
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Speaker 2: can get involved as well.

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Speaker 1: First question coming from a Day one listener, very loyal

758
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Speaker 1: follower Nick Kohile at the Koala Underscore four. Frequently we

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Speaker 1: take his questions on the mailbag because he's such a

760
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Speaker 1: big fan me interact with him a lot. It gives

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Speaker 1: you guys something something to work up to. Here. Do

762
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Speaker 1: you think your ma should be the everyday star there

763
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Speaker 1: at third base over Escobar until he gets right at

764
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Speaker 1: the plate. And this is I think kind of a

765
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Speaker 1: multifaceted question because you're dealing with a veteran who has

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Speaker 1: a long track other correcord that being very good in

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Speaker 1: the major leagues. You're dealing with a guy who, probably

768
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Speaker 1: for the first time in his career, is struggling to

769
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Speaker 1: the level he is and you can just see that

770
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Speaker 1: Edwila west Gabar, he's really internalizing this. He's very upset

771
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Speaker 1: by his struggles. He's very frustrated with his own play.

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Speaker 1: He had a great quote after the game saying that

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Speaker 1: I understrand the frustrations of the fans I professional baseball players.

774
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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to do the best I possibly can

775
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Speaker 1: one day. One day, I'm going to give them the

776
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Speaker 1: reason to cheer from me, which you hear a guy

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Speaker 1: say that, and that is like, all right, that makes

778
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Speaker 1: you motivate and feel good. But you also look at

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Speaker 1: the other side of the coin. He's just he's simply

780
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Speaker 1: not producing right now. And if you can only start

781
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Speaker 1: two of Escobar and mcneilor gior Man a given day,

782
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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear the two guys that are hitting the

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Speaker 1: ball better.

784
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think right now they should be platooning

785
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Speaker 2: gyor Man Escobar because Escobar is hitting left handed pitching

786
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Speaker 2: really well this year. His numbers against lefties are significantly

787
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Speaker 2: better than against righty So for talking batting average two

788
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Speaker 2: ninety two vers lefties two h six VERSU Righty's batting

789
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Speaker 2: average is not that important, but hey, it's a fun stat.

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Speaker 1: Some people still care. On base percentage better.

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Speaker 2: Against left handed pitching, and the power has been there

792
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Speaker 2: against the lefties. His OPS is hovering around the nine

793
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Speaker 2: hundred range against lefties. We're against righty's. He's kind of

794
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Speaker 2: struggling to get above that six hundred range, so.

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Speaker 1: He's barely five hundred. Yeah. Yeah, I can't do math.

796
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Speaker 1: I'm a YouTuber.

797
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Speaker 2: Math is not at my forte by any means. That's

798
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Speaker 2: why I talk to a camera all day. But I

799
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Speaker 2: think against lefties, Escobar has been very effective this year,

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Speaker 2: and that at least maybe for the next week or so,

801
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Speaker 2: should maybe be his role, at least if I was

802
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Speaker 2: managing the team. I know I'm not, so it doesn't

803
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: really matter. But the way that Yormy's been hitting Righty's

804
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Speaker 2: on the other hand, three forty three average, four to

805
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Speaker 2: seventeen on base four twenty two slugging, those numbers are phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's a smaller sample because he's

807
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Speaker 2: only really started playing a lot recently in the last

808
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Speaker 2: month plus, but gior May, we've seen him play enough

809
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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 1: We know this guy's ballplayer, and we've been praising him

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Speaker 1: since we've started this podcast, and he's been ticking up.

812
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: He's been hitting the ball harder and hardest year has

813
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Speaker 1: gone on. We've seen Luis Giormey gets some megs of

814
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Speaker 1: velocities in the hundreds over the last few weeks. Over

815
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Speaker 1: the last few weeks, which is something that you very

816
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Speaker 1: very rarely saw in his first few years in the league.

817
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Speaker 1: And we mentioned this all the time. Luis Kiorme just

818
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: makes play after play on the infield that just makes

819
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Speaker 1: your jaw drop him in. Lindor turns a sweet double

820
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Speaker 1: play in game one of this game where here May

821
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Speaker 1: made a nice pick behind the bag and threw the

822
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Speaker 1: ball even though he was on the bag, his momentum

823
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Speaker 1: was moving in the opposite direction, had the wherewithal to

824
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Speaker 1: flip the ball kind of high, let Lindor grab it,

825
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Speaker 1: get himself to the base and come and throw the

826
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Speaker 1: ball really well with his momentum moving towards first. The

827
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Speaker 1: guy's just a special infielder. It's like something you've never

828
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Speaker 1: seen before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the perfect way to utilize them,

830
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Speaker 2: honestly is just split that playing time put the guys

831
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Speaker 2: in the scenarios that they will succeed in the most

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Speaker 2: I think, and Escobar has succeed against left handed pitching,

833
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Speaker 2: yor may has been great against righties. It feels like

834
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Speaker 2: that might be maybe an oversimplified way to fix this,

835
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Speaker 2: but right now I think you gotta at least try it.

836
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Speaker 1: It is, but it's also a situation where you're in

837
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Speaker 1: a veteran clubhouse with a veteran manager, and this is

838
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Speaker 1: a veteran player who was paid to perform a role,

839
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Speaker 1: and it might be kind of that'll be a tough

840
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Speaker 1: conversation with Buck Showalter. I mean, that is one of

841
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Speaker 1: the benefits of having guy like Buck Showalter as a manager,

842
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Speaker 1: where if you do have to change things up, he

843
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Speaker 1: probably knows the way to manicure the situation and do

844
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Speaker 1: it in a way that keeps everyone in the clubhouse,

845
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Speaker 1: including Escobar, still thinking the right way, moving towards the

846
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Speaker 1: one singular goal this team has. It's gonna be interesting

847
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Speaker 1: to see how this situation unfolds over the next few weeks.

848
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll definitely see how it plays out, especially because

849
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Speaker 2: Miami does have some left handed pitching in their rotation.

850
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Speaker 2: Absolutely Okay, another question coming in from Eric Briggs, Who's

851
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Speaker 2: at is not Eric Briggs, it's John Smith. Whatever it is,

852
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Speaker 2: on a level of one to ten, how much of

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Speaker 2: a prospect hugger are you, Guys? How much of the

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Speaker 2: system would you be able to stomach shipping out in

855
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Speaker 2: August if it meant a better position October in twenty

856
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Speaker 2: twenty two. So my take up until honestly, probably the

857
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Speaker 2: last few years, is that I will always trade prospects

858
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Speaker 2: for bonafided stars. The thing is they need to be

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Speaker 2: bonafied stars. Like unfortunately we're seeing p crow armsheunk kind

860
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Speaker 2: of flourish in Chicago, and we no longer have hobby bias,

861
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: so that one might bite us in the button.

862
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: Was playing horribly?

863
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was playing horribly? But at the same time, like,

864
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: we're not trading Francisco Walvrez, there's no chance you can't

865
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: do it. We're not trading Brett Batty, We're not trading

866
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: Ronnie Maurizio. Probably even right now, unless you get a

867
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: big name guy pitcher, maybe it's tough. I'm not a

868
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: prospect hugger by any means. I will make the right

869
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: trade if it does make this team better. Because the

870
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: ultimate goal of twenty twenty two is to win the

871
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: World Series, and you should. If there's a move that

872
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: makes you win the World Series, you gotta make it.

873
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: But I think you do have to be a little

874
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: bit careful because we have a bunch of guys that

875
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: look like they'll be significant MLB players.

876
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: One thing I'll push back from what you said is

877
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: the fact that if we're doing anything for twenty twenty

878
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: two to make us win the World Series, you would

879
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: do it something I probably I'm not really a prospect Hugger.

880
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: My whole philosophy is kind of like, if someone isn't

881
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: even in double A yet, I'll I'll just trade them

882
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: and move on to the next one. Figure something else out,

883
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: because there's such a low hit rate for guys who

884
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: are even just playing well in high are low A

885
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: even double A. Even if a guy's dominating down there,

886
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: there's no telling what's gonna happen when he gets given

887
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: up a level or two to the major leagues. But

888
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: something that I think would be important for the mess

889
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: if they do end up trading, I'm never trading for

890
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: Cisco Alvarez, not I would certainly listen to offers around

891
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: Brett Bailey, Ryan Brizio or any other prospect in the system,

892
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: including Alex Ramirez, because if there's an opportunity, and I

893
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: think there always are, to get players who are gonna

894
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: be with the team for more than just half a season. Yes,

895
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: rentals are something I'm terrified of because that's such a

896
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: small window, and the player who's being traded knows that,

897
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: like everyone knows the level of prospects are traded for

898
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: and the situation they're going into. We heard David Cone

899
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: talk about this actually, so yeah, you're very aware of

900
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: that situation. And it's easy, especially as a bat, to press,

901
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 1: and when you're pressing, you're gonna be swinging more pitches

902
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: out of the strike zone. City feels is not the

903
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: easiest place to hit. The Mets are not the easiest

904
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: fans in the world to play for. Greatest fans on Earth,

905
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but we're an ordinary bunch. If

906
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: you trade big prospects for a player you're only having

907
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: for three months, and that first month is bad, things

908
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: could really actively spiral. We kind of saw that last season.

909
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: We're passionate fans, and fans on Earth.

910
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to say we demand excellence, but we

911
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: expect that you're gonna play as good as you were

912
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: before you run the team.

913
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: So with that, trading for rental does scare me If

914
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: you're giving up a guy who's a clear top fifty,

915
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: top sixty prospect like Brett bay or Ron and Marisio,

916
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: who both look like they're going to major League Baseball players,

917
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: their potential, their ceiling is still yet to be seen.

918
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: Same with Mark Fiento's Syvanta before Mauricio, I think some Mauricio. Okay,

919
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: So those three guys are the trade of blassets i'd

920
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: say right now in the Mets system. And they all

921
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: have some things they do well, they'll have some things

922
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: they don't do well. None of those guys are can't

923
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: missed by any means. There is such a low hit

924
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: rate of prospects between fifteen and one hundred you'd be

925
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: shocked if you look back at the old list. So

926
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: I would not be afraid to trade any of these

927
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: guys because this team with Jacob deGrom and Max Scherzer

928
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: can compete for a World Series next year. With those

929
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: guys still on the team, they can again compete for

930
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: a World Series. If you can get a guy who's

931
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: going to be around for the next couple of years,

932
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: say Frankie Mantas, Luis Castillo.

933
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: Well wait, wait, wait wait, let me let me get

934
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: to the next questions though, because I think we're starting

935
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: to get into it now.

936
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: You get it excited, I get it.

937
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: We want to talk a little bit trades. It's starting

938
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: to get possibly into that trade talk time. But that

939
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: was probably the most.

940
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: Asked question in the replies, always about trade for the

941
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: last like three malbacks. Going back to met you guys

942
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: really can't wait to hear about trades. I've all got

943
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: some DMS guys. Once July hits, we're gonna talk trade.

944
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: But I'll throw some names out there, Sean Matt We

945
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: had WICC band the Wave, which I also agree ban

946
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: the Wave. Thank you guys for in this question. I'll

947
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: give you some easy names. James will probably give you

948
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: a little bit deeper cuts here. But guys like Frankie Montas,

949
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 2: guys like Luis Castillo, those are obviously the big pitcher

950
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: names that everyone's always looking for. They're going to demand

951
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: a lot, They're going to demand some top top prospects.

952
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: The Mets can make that decision whether or not they

953
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: want to do that. They might not even be interested

954
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: at all. We have no clue, but those are definitely

955
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: some of the bigger names on the pitching side that

956
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: everyone's going to be involved in.

957
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: And if you look at the hitting side, for guys

958
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: who aren't even just rentals, it's kind of kind of

959
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: barren a little bit. You got aj Pollock, who the

960
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: White Sox are a complete dumpster fire, so as a

961
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: chance they start selling. He had an element to this

962
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: outfield depth. I think, yeah player, yeah, Randall Gritchuck who

963
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't really care for that much at all, But

964
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't even.

965
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: Know if outfield is We probably are looking more at,

966
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, third base, just just a bat that can

967
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: maybe even fill in at the DH spot to help

968
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: us out a little bit.

969
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: But those are the kind of the players that pop

970
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: up seemingly out of nowhere, like you took like Jonathan Scope,

971
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: like that someone you're thinking of, like, there's not that

972
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: really that many sexy CJ. Crohne who To be fair.

973
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: We didn't necessarily know if we're gonna get hoppy biased

974
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: until a few days before the deadline happens, so these

975
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: trades take a little bit more time to develop. Especially

976
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: with bigger name players because of the you know capital

977
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: that's gonna be coming back.

978
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: Also this year, the fact that there are more teams

979
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. That's happening this year. Correct, Yeah, that's

980
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: happening this year. There's gonna be more teams. I think

981
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: they're still in it. Like I talked about AJ Pollock,

982
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't think the White Sox are and Jerry Ryan's

983
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: An're gonna admit that they're out of it until they

984
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: are out of it, until they're scraping and clawing their

985
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: way through no shift baseball and burning all their starting

986
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: pitchers in September, when they're nine games out. It's it's hard.

987
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: David Peralta like, are these names really getting you?

988
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: Jazz Nelson Cruz Like maybe if the Nationals are willing

989
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: to get rid of him, which I would imagine they are,

990
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: because they're terrible. Like the names right now that we

991
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 2: can give you that you don't already know, Josh Bell,

992
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: Robbie Grossman, Like, they're not gonna excite you. But as

993
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: we get closer and closer, we will definitely like probably

994
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: have almost a dedicated episode maybe just talking about possible

995
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: trade prospects.

996
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: At least at least twenty to thirty minutes of one, because.

997
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: When it does get to trade deadline season, it's gonna

998
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: be hot. The hot stove heats up.

999
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: The guy I mentioned a few weeks ago who is

1000
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: still one of my favorite trade campis fits Mets team

1001
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: is Mitch Haniger on a one year deal. He just

1002
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: plays a corner outfield. They're probably not gonna have to

1003
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: give up that much to get him. Definitely, none of

1004
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: the prospects I just mentioned. You could probably get him

1005
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: for a couple guys in your rookie ball Loway team.

1006
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: He's someone who I think would be a nice thumper,

1007
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: nice where I headed bat for this Mets roster. Definitely.

1008
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: And then let's wrap up the mail bag here with

1009
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of a fun question. This one comes

1010
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: from Vega at c Vega one two three on Twitter.

1011
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: Best memory of.

1012
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: Being at the ballpark either Shay or City James. I'm

1013
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: let you take this one first. Mine actually definitely comes

1014
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: from say it was a Friday evening, I believe During

1015
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixth season Mets Yankee Subway Series,

1016
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: Mets sustained a nice little comeback in the ninth inning

1017
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: against the Yankees at this game with my dad and

1018
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: David Wright. A young David Wright, a burgeoning star, comes

1019
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: to the plate against Mariano Rivera, laces a double over

1020
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: the centerfielder's head, walk off. When Mets beat the Yankees.

1021
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: I think the one that immediately comes to my mind,

1022
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: and maybe because it's more recent, it has to be

1023
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: the twenty fifteen World Series, the game that we did

1024
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: win at home.

1025
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh we all get to go the World Series games? Ye?

1026
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: So well, I did, so I'm going to talk about it.

1027
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to brag here, humble brag was that the

1028
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 2: World Series?

1029
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: No big deal?

1030
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: The game where they won, David Wright hitting the home run,

1031
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: no cinder guard whizzing one by, I'll see his Escobar's head.

1032
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: I know the series didn't end the way that we

1033
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: wanted it to, but that game was awesome. And seeing

1034
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: David Wright hit a home run in the World Series

1035
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: at City Field, that just it felt right. It felt

1036
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: right in a career that ended up not being as

1037
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: great or not being as fortunate as we hoped it

1038
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: would be, that felt like a moment of like a

1039
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: this is exactly what we should have been seeing all

1040
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: these years, and it was a great moment.

1041
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Got to watch it with my dad, so that was cool.

1042
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I think I've said this on the show before, but

1043
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: I'll just say for possibly new listeners out there, that

1044
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: was game two of the Game Tour, Game three, Game three. Yeah,

1045
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: Mester returning home, no Cindergard pitching that crazy, crazy moment

1046
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: on a Friday night. I'll say that's BALI can mentioned

1047
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: before the game, I was watching the game with friends

1048
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: in college, and then that next morning was actually my

1049
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: mom's birthday and I had like conjoined with my dad

1050
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: to get meet myself a surprise flight home to get home.

1051
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: Surprised my mom. You know, good son, Catholic boy. The

1052
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Mets won that game, and that was just I had

1053
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: never seen the Mets win a World Series game my

1054
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: entire life. It was a Friday night, Halloween weekend in college.

1055
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: I had way too much fun that night, stay that

1056
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: all hours of the night. The bartender well shout out

1057
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Midway and Columbus happened to be a Mets fan. He

1058
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: was giving us with anything we asked for, a crew

1059
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: of Mets fans showing up to the bar. I turn

1060
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: over the next morning in my bed ten thirty missed

1061
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: my flight by a whole hour. I had to go

1062
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: to the airport, Columbus International Airport. I don't even think

1063
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: it's their national airport. I think it's just a Columbus airport.

1064
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: It's like basically the equivalent of New York City train station.

1065
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: It's like no people there. Ever, I had to stand

1066
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: there and stand by, but I stood there for two hours.

1067
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: Ended up getting a flight home, making the mom's birthday,

1068
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: so it all worked out in the end. That's very

1069
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: on brand for you to cut it close with an airline.

1070
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I think cut this one close. I missed it. I

1071
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: missed this flight clear through by an entire hour. First, finally,

1072
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: I ever missed. I've never missed a flight. I've missed two. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm the guy who gets there three hours for

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00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: the flight and I'm like, I'll just relax in the airport.

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00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: I'll I don't want any stress when I'm traveling. Yeah. Well,

1076
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: different strokes for different folks. So that was our mailbag.

1077
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: Not bad for the first one. We do this probably weekly.

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00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: That's not the first one.

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Speaker 2: Well, first one now with yeah Matts of course, make

1080
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: sure you're following us at met stup so you guys

1081
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: can get involved in these, Like I said, we're gonna

1082
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: do them about once a week. We want to hear

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00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: your stuff, give us your questions. We want to interact

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00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: with you, guys, so make sure you do. Now. Let's

1085
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: go ahead and preview that Marlin series. James, you're the

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00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: pitching matchup guy.

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00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: Hit me talking about Sandy a contra before. That's gonna

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00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: really stink. Friday night, six forty start time, everyone be aware,

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00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: not seven ten, six forty start time half hour early,

1090
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: so make sure you set your clocks coming home from

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00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: work whatever school. I don't know. We have Taywan Walker

1092
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: on the bump. Tywan Walker, who is the reborn, the reinvented,

1093
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: the renewed Taiwan Walker, the taywe Walker, split change, Slyer

1094
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: fozeing fastball Taiwan Walker. No reason you can't shut the

1095
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: team down again, of course not, he's been great. Also,

1096
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: no reason the Mets will be able to hit Sandy

1097
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: all Contra at this time around. So we'll see what

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00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: happens in that game, hopefully a pitcher's duel. Saturday, we're

1099
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: facing all the pictures we just faced Chris Bassett for US,

1100
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers again for them. Sure should hit him. Yeah, hopefully,

1101
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: And the Marlins do not have a picture on the

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Speaker 1: doctor right now for Sunday. I believe John, you can

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00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: may be able to back me up on this. I

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00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: think Daniel Castano pitched a Monday for them. I think

1105
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: you're right, So I think that lines up for him.

1106
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: But the Marlins have so many guys coming on off

1107
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: the IL any given time. Maybe it's the Lisia Hernandez.

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00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how how not long are

1109
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: these guys are out. I know Hernandez and Edward Cabrera

1110
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: are both on the IL right now and not out

1111
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: for like that long. Yeah, so maybe one of them.

1112
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: But it looks like could be Castano in a star spot.

1113
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they're saving that for Max Meyer's major league debut.

1114
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: When I was at the game the last Barlins game,

1115
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: I saw Daniel Cassanio hanging out in the tunnel. It

1116
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: seemed like he might have been answering a call for

1117
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: your car's extended warranty. I couldn't believe that he was

1118
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: taking it on speakerphone in public. What kind of phone

1119
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: call you have to get in public, like a lawyer

1120
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: or real estate agent.

1121
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he had it on speaker accounting

1122
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: for everyone to hear, and I swear I could have.

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Speaker 1: I thought I heard.

1124
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: I would like to ask you about your cards extended ward.

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00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't be taking this guy. Maybe

1126
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: it's the day tre that was a day game. It

1127
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: was a day game he was Maybe he was making moves.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. What about the last game of the series, Well,

1129
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: for the Mets, there's a possibility that's going to be

1130
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: Max Schur's if we're not really sure, and if not,

1131
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: that's going to be Trevor Williams because he just started

1132
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: our game on Tuesday.

1133
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so I mean it's the Marlins. They are

1134
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit better because Hazus Sanchez is

1135
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: now back in the lineup. He's recovered Aguilar. I'm not

1136
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: sure if he's back yet, but okay, he is. Our

1137
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: producer John actually just filled us in he is back.

1138
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: So the lineup will be stronger by no means isn't scary,

1139
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: but it is a better lineup than we saw. And

1140
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: of course they always have the met killer John Birdie,

1141
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: who have to keep an eye out for.

1142
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: And we're going down to Miami to that ridiculously empty

1143
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: ballpark that just seems to always suck the life out

1144
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: of the Mets like a vampire every single time we

1145
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: had there.

1146
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: I've never been there. I would like to go one day,

1147
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: just because I'm trying to see every single ballpark in baseball.

1148
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: I would save that one for the end. Yeah, save

1149
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: it for the end.

1150
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 2: But Miami, just every time we go there it feels weird.

1151
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: We had that the weird games last year when we

1152
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: basically had the double A and Triple A lineup playing

1153
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: and we somehow scratched out some wins.

1154
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm hoping the Mets is just a nice, easy series.

1155
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: I'd love to Rea cap the next episode with some

1156
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: smiles and some happiness, because I don't I don't like

1157
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: when we lose series.

1158
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: And we have to talk about it. We're gonna feel

1159
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: it right away because this Sandal concer or A game

1160
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: on Friday seems like it could be an inflection point

1161
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: for this Mets team similar to that game, similarly to

1162
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: that third Dodger game of that series, and that the

1163
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: way that Angel series began, after the way the Padre

1164
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: series ended, where Mets have not lost three in a

1165
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Speaker 1: row all year. As John so graciously pointed out earlier

1166
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: in this show. So I'm gonna try the reverse chinks. Now.

1167
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: They can't beat sandiyalk Concer. There's no way I can't

1168
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: hit them. You can't hit the guy who's young winners,

1169
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: the best pitcher in baseball, or the best picture in

1170
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: baseball cenerently best picture in the National League. I don't

1171
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: know how you touch this guy. Here is no way,

1172
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 1: and the tip of one walking with the magic's gonna

1173
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: run out. Just these aren't tangible changes like we've talked

1174
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: about in no way. Yeah, we're trying to do a

1175
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: little bit of the reverse jinks there, but but realistically,

1176
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm not now to be serious, this isn't inflection for

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00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: for this Mets team, because if they can dig deep

1178
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: and find a way to stave off this losing streak

1179
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: against literally one of the best pitchers in baseball, that

1180
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: will show a ton of grit, grit that we've seen

1181
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: all year. Possibly have Jef mcneilback, who which would be fantastic.

1182
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: Maybe said Lugo rejoins the team also for this give

1183
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: that bullpen some more strength. I don't know. This is

1184
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call the Big Series because it's a

1185
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: Demartha Marlins in June, but I would like to see

1186
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: some good fight. At worst, let's win this one.

1187
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's win the series. I think that should

1188
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: be the goal every single time, and the Mets have

1189
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: been doing that pretty much the entire year. So, by

1190
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: no means should this Astro series be doomsday for anybody.

1191
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: This guy is not falling Houston. We have a problem,

1192
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: not really, not really.

1193
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: I think this entire episode we tried to at least

1194
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: give you guys that opinion that it's going to be okay.

1195
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: Also want to shout out if anyone does not know

1196
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: Sunday is the Mets first I think only game on

1197
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: Peacock okay, all year, So that's a noon start on Sunday,

1198
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: so be aware it's an early one and four to

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Speaker 1: ten on Saturday, so no seven o'clock games this series.

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00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: And honestly, I think.

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00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: That's a perfect place for us to wrap up this

1202
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: episode of the Mets Up Podcast, the official podcast of

1203
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: the New York Mets.

1204
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: Again.

1205
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: Never gonna get tired of saying that, So sorry, you

1206
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: guys have to listen to that forever. As long as

1207
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: we are keep continuing to do this, make sure you're

1208
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1209
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: Subscribe to the Mets YouTube channel so you can see

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Speaker 2: the video version of this, which I promise is gonna

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Speaker 2: look good. The graphics department beautiful job by them. Can't

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Speaker 2: wait to see what that looks like on the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: don't care. We just want people listening.

1218
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1220
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Speaker 2: James at Jamesiano keeping it easy for you guys. Thanks

1221
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: so much for listening, Thanks so much for watching, and

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00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: we'll see you after the marrowin series.

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Speaker 1: Peace out, peace out, guys, See you next time.