1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 2: I am six forty you're listening to the John Cobel 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. But we live on Instagram. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: We are live on Instagram. We were yesterday when we 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: had Steve Garvey and studio and we had a big 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: crowd show up to watch. What was there? Ten thousand people? 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: You said ten thousand people. Ten and a half thousand 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: people already viewed? It is that the highest ever we had? 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: No, Actually, the first segment from the event on Thursday, 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: it's almost at twenty thousand. 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: It's at like nineteen point seven. Now, ah well, we 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: need three hundred more people then to watch last Thursday's show. Yes, please, 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: the one at the Honda Center where we were gathering 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: signatures to rewrite Prop forty seven, written by George Gascone. 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: And this ties right into our next guest here. You 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: may have heard George Gascones running for reelection and nobody 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: likes him, and he's done a lot of damage to 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: the county, into the state. And there are eleven challengers 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: to George Gascone and the top two who in the 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: March fifth primary next Tuesday will go on in November. 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: It would be great if gascon was squeezed out of 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: the top two spots. So I thought we would recommend 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: two candidates to vote for. You can pick one of 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: the two. You can only vote for one, but just 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: to give an extra boost to two of the names 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: to help maybe get two names at the top. And 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: no Gascon and no Jeff Schamerinski either, by the way, 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: who's a mini Gascon. So today we are going to 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: talk to one of the two recommended candidates. Tomorrow we'll 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: talk to the other. So the first candidate we are 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: going to interview is John McKinny, Deputy County Deputy District 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: Attorney for La County. John, how are you? 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: Wow, I'm great. I'm great. I was having a good day. 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 4: I started my day off down in Redondo Beach shooting 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: some digital ads and then by day just got a 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: lot better. When I heard that I was coming on 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: to talk to. 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: You, well, let me tell you, I think you would 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: be a great choice as district attorney. And one thing 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: that impressed me along the way is, first of all 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: the appearances on the show, you were just so warm 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: and genuine and real. I mean there's a lot of 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: people they get into politics, and you know, being a 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: da as part politician, and they talk in jargon and 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: they talk in a very stilted public relations manner, and 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: you really come across as a real person. And also 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: that you had such approval from your peers. There was 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: a poll on who the other Deputy das would like 49 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: to work for, and two thirds of them chose you 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: out of the other Deputy DA candidates in the mix. So, 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: you know, I think here's what I think. I think 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: you'd be a good choice because you're going to be 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: able to go after Gascone from the inside. You know 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: what life has been like from the inside for the 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: last four years, and you've taken some hits from Gascon 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: because of it. So I think there's just a lot 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: more offense authenticity with your message because you know what's 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: going on. 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thank you for let me say that. I 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 4: am truly truly humbled and honored to be recommended by you, 61 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: and also very thankful that you let me come on 62 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: your show and talk about that vote that was taken 63 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: up by Deputy DA's which I think is the absolute 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 4: goal standard and endorsements in this race. Who better to 65 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: ask if you're undecided or if you're trying to really 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 4: struggle to choose between two people who better to look 67 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: to than the men and women who are in the 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: office doing the heavy lifting every day. So I'm very 69 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: honored to have that support. 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: Also well, because what Gascone has done is completely, as 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: you know, demralize virtually everybody who works there other than 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: his immediate lieutenants who's benefited from his reign. And I 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: think you would restore a lot of a lot of 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: goodwill and a lot of morale so that the people 75 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: can go about their lives and do what the taxpayers 76 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: want them to do, which is put the bad guys away. 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean I would hit the ground running from 78 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: the moment I'd brought my hand after being sworn in. 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: I've said over and over again all of the policies 80 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 4: he issued on day one would get shredded and replaced 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: within minutes of me taking office. The men and women 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: in the office are going to be reinvigorated. They're going 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: to know that they're going to be allowed to do 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: their jobs to see justice in the appropriate way. They're 85 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: going to know that they can work in an environment 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: where the public defenders aren't keeping notes on them and 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: telling the DA if they don't think that they're doing 88 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: what the public defenders want them to do. They're going 89 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 4: to know that they can work in an environment free 90 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: from fear that allows them to do with in the 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: best interests of the public always. 92 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: Gascone said in an interview with Channel seven, which we 93 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: ran yesterday, that we're in a better place than we 94 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: were four years ago in terms of crime and safety. 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: How do you respond to that? 96 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he. 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Has some imagination, does it he? 98 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: I saw that interview and I thought, you know, of 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: all the things to say, it was a pretty friendly 100 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 4: interview for him, and for all of the things that 101 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: he could have said, he told that really fantastic lot. 102 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 4: Everyone knows that there's been a complete breakdown of law 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: and order in Los Angeles. We have become a lawless 104 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: society and we see it playing out around us every day. 105 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: It's not just affecting us as individuals, it's affecting our 106 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: businesses that are struggling. And for him to say that 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: people are better off today, it's almost as if he's 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: writing copy against himself. I mean, he's writing a campaign 109 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 4: ad for whoever the challenger is that will face him 110 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: in November. 111 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: Well, there was a statistic just the other day that 112 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: retail theft in LAS up eighty one percent. How can 113 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: you follow that up by saying, well, we're in a 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: much better place than four years ago. I mean, totally 115 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: at odds with everyone's reality, right. 116 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: And sentimental deaths are up sixteen over twenty sixteen. So 117 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 4: with people like Gascon, I think that they go through 118 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: life expressing a narrative that doesn't exist, and they believe 119 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 4: that the people that like them will hear it and 120 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: move on. And he's not so concerned about the people 121 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 4: who are more critical thinkers like you and me. 122 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: What what is the you talked about repealing everything that 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Gashcone instituted. I think he had nine directives then on 124 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: day one, what are the most crucial directives that you 125 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: think need to be reversed or greatly revised? 126 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: All right, well, we have to start at the beginning 127 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: of the system, and we have to get our bail 128 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: system right now. George Gascon implemented this ridiculous system where 129 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 4: DA's were not allowed to argue for bail except on 130 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: the most extreme cases. That has to be reversed. Now 131 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: that's been made even more complicated because our superior court, 132 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: I think, has stepped into the political realm and rewrote 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: its own policies. So the DA is now going to 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: have to work with the court to try and get 135 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: the court to roll that back. But that's a major 136 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: problem because that's where we find that revolving door of injustice, 137 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: with people who can make crimes and are right back 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: out on the street within minutes. 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: From there. 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: We need truth in charging. You know, we can't have 141 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: people use guns and ignore the fact that they're using guns. 142 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: We can't have people who inflict injuries and ignore the 143 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: fact that victims are suffering these catastrophic injuries. That's another 144 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: policy that has to be rolled back right away. 145 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: I find it amazing that a movement which emphasizes the 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: need for gun control also refuses to add gun enhancement 147 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: charges on suspects that use guns to kill. It's such 148 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: a bizarre contradiction. 149 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: Is truly hypocritical. It truly is an environment where law 150 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: abiding gun owners are regulated and criminals are not. I mean, 151 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: you've heard that criticism before. It's true here in Los Angeles. 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: Is true. If you're a law abiding person, you've got 153 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: to jump through sixteen hoops to own a gun, and 154 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: if you're a criminal, you can use guns and crimes 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: and still not be held accountable under George gescal. 156 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: Right, So if you're a law abiding citizen getting a gun, 157 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: they make it as difficult as possible. If you're a criminal, 158 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: having a gun doesn't add a day to your sentence. Absolutely, 159 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean that is so nuts, and I don't think 160 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: most people realize that that that really really is the policy. John, 161 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: can you stay for another segment? Sure, we come back. 162 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: I just, you know, for people who are not familiar 163 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: with you or didn't hear earlier interviews, I want to 164 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: run through your career and and just your background so 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: people understand who you are and where you come from, 166 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: so you're not just a name, all right, So hang 167 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: on the line, would you. John McKinney. He's a deputy 168 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: district attorney here in Los Angeles, one of two candidates 169 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: that we're recommending that you vote for to replace George Gascon. 170 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: Primary is Tuesday, March the fifth. Most people have not 171 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: voted yet. It's only been a smattering of male votes 172 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: coming in. Now. I know you can only vote for 173 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: one of the two, but we thought we'd recommend too, 174 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: because the top two candidates end up in the November runoff, 175 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: and we don't want it to be Gascon obviously in 176 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: that top two. We don't want Jeff Schamernski because he's 177 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: a mini Gascon. So we're going to highlight two people 178 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: who should be in the top two and we'll take 179 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: it from there. One of them today, John McKinney, one 180 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: of them Tomorrow. We'll talk more with John and just 181 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: go through the background of his career here in Los 182 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: Angeles as a Deputy DA. Next time the John Cobelt showed. 183 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM Sorting. 184 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: We us live on Instagram now and we're on from 185 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: one till four after four o'clock John Cobot Show on demand. 186 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: The podcast version on the iHeart app same as the 187 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: radio show, just moves faster. And yeah, we're on Instagram 188 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: live because we're talking with a Deputy DA, John McKinney, 189 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: who's running against George Gascon for La County DA. And 190 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: as we've told you previously, the top two in the 191 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: primary on Tuesday end up going to the finals in November, 192 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: and you can only vote for one candidate, but we 193 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: decided we were going to endorse two people, so that 194 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: maybe two people would get a boost and crowd out 195 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: Gascon and also crowd out Jeff Chemerinsky, who is a 196 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: mini gas Gone. So we're going with John McKinney here 197 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: and then tomorrow will announce the other candidate and just 198 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: strongly recommend that you vote for them one or the 199 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: other and hopefully they will end up in the finals. 200 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: And it's really important because there's too many candidates. That's 201 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: the only problem I've had with this whole run up 202 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: to removing gascone is you know, you can't have eleven 203 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: challengers because then the vote gets split too many different 204 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: ways and something bad could happen. So we're trying to 205 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: focus on just a couple of guys here. Let's get 206 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: John mckinne back on. John, you've been in La County 207 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: Deputy DA. Why didn't you tell us how many years 208 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: and just give us a progression through your career the 209 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: highlights so people understand your experience and the trials you've 210 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: been involved in. 211 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, thank you for the opportunity. I joined the 212 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: DA's office back in nineteen ninety eight. That means I've 213 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: been a DA now for twenty five plus years, and 214 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: in that twenty five plus years, I've prosecuted a lot 215 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: of violent crime. I started my career for the most 216 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: part in Compton, where I worked for seven years doing 217 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: victim impact program prosecutions that involve child and adult sexual 218 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: assault cases, child abuse, the abuse cases like that. I 219 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: moved on from there to the hardcore Gang Division, where 220 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: I prosecuted gang related shootings, mostly murders and attempted murders 221 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: for six years, and then from there to the elite 222 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: Major Crimes Division, where I spent over ten years prosecuting 223 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: complex murder cases, high profile murder cases, headline grabbing murder 224 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: cases like the killing of Nipsey Hustle, the killing of 225 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: shinron G, the craigslist killer down in Downey who left 226 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: three victims dead and two others seriously injured. So those 227 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: are sort of the highlights of my career in terms 228 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: of my progression through the office and for people who 229 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: don't know, the DA's office is structured in divisions that 230 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: focus on particular types of crimes. The Gang Division and 231 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: Major Crimes in particular are divisions where lawyers go to 232 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: develop leadership skills and usually go on to do something 233 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: else in the office that involves working directly with the 234 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: district attorney or her or his higher level managers. 235 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: And you had not an easy start to life if 236 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: I remember. 237 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I have quite a story that I 238 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 4: think appeals to people all Angelinas. I don't care what 239 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: your political persuasion is or your ideology. I grew up 240 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: in a low income, high crime neighborhood, and unfortunately for me, 241 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: I lost my mom when I was two years old, 242 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: and then tragically, my dad passed away when. 243 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: I was five years old. 244 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: I was raised by my eldest sister, who raised five 245 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 4: children by herself. In the seventies and eighties, and in 246 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: the eighties in particular, you know, John Crack cocaine was 247 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: introduced to cities all across the country, and it made 248 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: my city, like Los Angeles must have been very dangerous, 249 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 4: and so I had to now gate those streets. I 250 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 4: had to make all the right decisions. I mean, every day, 251 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: I had to run a gauntlet to avoid becoming either 252 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: involved in crime or a victim of crime. I chose 253 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: a different path. I went to work, I put myself 254 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: through college, and I did so well in college. I 255 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: had an opportunity to come out here and go to 256 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: one of the great law schools here and in the world, 257 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: the UCLA School of Law. And from UCLA I went 258 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: straight into the District Attorney's office, where I've now given 259 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: twenty five years of my professional life to public service. 260 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: Well, you had every reason in the world to go 261 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: down a bad path, and that that speaks to an 262 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: incredible strength of character and fortitude to avoid all the 263 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: land mines that I'm sure you had to dance around. Well, yeah, 264 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: and I. 265 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: Think that John, I think that experience is particularly relevant 266 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: today because the next district attorney has to crack down 267 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: on crime that goes without saying. And we need voters 268 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: to bring a stop to gascon by March fifth. Everybody 269 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: needs to get out and vote to stop gascon by 270 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: March fifth. If he gets reelected, he can truly claim 271 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: a mandate for the nonsense and the experiment that he's 272 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: introduced to La County, and we can't let that happen. 273 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 4: We have to take this county back, We have to 274 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: take our community back, and law abiding people have to 275 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: stand up and assert their rights to live without fear. 276 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm absolutely terrified. The idea that he'd 277 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: be running things for four more years it'd make so 278 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: much destruction has happened already. Well, John McKinny, you have 279 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: a website, why don't you tell us? 280 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure, people can learn more about me, and it's 281 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: not too late to donate to my campaign. I got 282 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: a lot of voter contact that I can do over 283 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: the next five days. I'm at McKinnie four LA dot com. 284 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: McKinnie the number four LA dot com. People can also 285 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: find me on Instagram and Twitter at John McKinnie underscore, 286 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: John McKinney underscore. 287 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: All right, John, we'll talk with you again. Thanks very 288 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: much for coming on. 289 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: Good much, John, good luck in very humbled and honor. 290 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: Thank you all right, John McKinny, Deputy DA LA County. 291 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: He's running to replace George Gascon, one of two candidates 292 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: we're selecting to recommend you vote for on Friday on 293 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: Tuesday rather March fifth, or if you're voting by mail beforehand, 294 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: be John McKinney. The other one will announce tomorrow during 295 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: the show. And again you can only vote for one person, 296 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: but we'd like these guys to finish in the top two. 297 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: Crowd out Gascon and crowd out you know, Jeff Schamerinsky, 298 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: who's a mini Gascon, So you don't want those two. 299 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of candidates, and there's no point 300 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: having ten candidates split the anti Gascon vote ten different ways, 301 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: because statistically, you know, bad things can happen. So trying 302 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: to focus on two guys that we think are and 303 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: I really like John again because he's been in the system, 304 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: and and Gascone has reassigned him because John has been 305 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: outspoken in his criticisms and so he's the perfect guy 306 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: who can go after Gascon knowing what life has been 307 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: like from the inside every day for the last four years. 308 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: More coming up. 309 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 310 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 5: six forty. 311 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, you just missed John McKinney, 312 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Deputy DA here in La County, and he's one of 313 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: the two candidates against George Gascone we're recommending you vote for. 314 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: You want to hear his interview, it's on the iHeart 315 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: app as a part of the podcast, like I just said, 316 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show on demand or it's recorded on Instagram 317 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: live as well, So listen to him. And we're going 318 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: to have the second candidate that we're endorsing tomorrow during 319 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: that show as well. You can only vote for one, 320 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: but we're giving you two recommendations because we're hoping a 321 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: crowd out Gascon Top two go on to November. Let's well, 322 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: let's talk about San Francisco now, which is in even 323 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: worse shape than the La area. The macy Store at 324 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: Union Square, it says it's going to close one hundred 325 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: and fifty Macy's locations, including this one's been there in 326 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: Union Square for seventy seven years. And while they've got 327 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 2: the cover story that hey, we're cutting back around the country, 328 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who work at the store 329 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: say they think one of the main reasons that the 330 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: Macy's is shutting down was all the retail theft. There 331 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: was one employee quoted in a news story, Steve dallas A, 332 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: saying that he works in the blazer department in the 333 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: men's department, and dallas A said blazers, wallets, and boxers 334 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: are the most frequently stolen items. Thieves take four blazers 335 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 2: a day, ten wallets, and twenty briefs, so they're stealing 336 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: underwear by the dozens. Of course, that street crowd in 337 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: San Francisco needs underwear. Let's talk to Richie Greenberg. He's 338 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: run from mayor up in San Francisco and is a 339 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: general activist up there trying to fight for some logic 340 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: and common sense which may be slowly seeping into the 341 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: city day by day. Ritchie, how are you. 342 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: Hi? And thank you good afternoon for having me on today. 343 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: So how much do you think the crime shoplifting, just 344 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: the climate, the street climate there affected the Macy's closure. 345 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: I think it absolutely did. 346 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 6: And there are not so subtle hints that are in 347 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 6: the press release that was put out by Macy's CEO 348 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 6: and others. You know, you've got one hundred and fifty 349 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 6: Macy's stores that are slated to close either by the 350 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 6: end of this year or next year. 351 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: Right, and. 352 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 6: They're not shutting down. The entire company is not closing. 353 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 6: They're just getting rid of and closing down the least profitable, 354 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 6: the ones that are not performing well. Now, what does 355 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 6: that mean. That means that they're not generating a profit. Well, 356 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 6: how do you not generate a profit? 357 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: That means you've got a loss. And so, as you said, 358 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: and other reports are. 359 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 6: Saying that the particular San Francisco West Coast flagship store 360 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 6: that opened in late nineteen forty seven, which was the 361 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 6: star of the West Coast, and at some point in 362 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 6: the history of Macy's, this store here actually helped financially 363 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 6: when the Macy's Herald Square in New York was having 364 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 6: some difficulty to help make up the loss on the 365 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 6: balance sheet overall. 366 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: So if this location. 367 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 6: Here in San Francisco in Union Square was performing well 368 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 6: and was one of the top performers, it wouldn't be closing. 369 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 6: But it's not because of the rampant theft and as 370 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 6: you had said, and there's other reports out there too 371 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 6: from other employees in other departments that it's a constant 372 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 6: daily basis, and that is what is ultimately taking down 373 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 6: this location. 374 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: Dozens of stories have closed in San Francisco in the 375 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 2: in the past years. I mean, I mean, what does 376 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: it look like there. I haven't gone downtown there in 377 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: a while. Is it just blocks of empty storefronts? Is 378 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: it visible now? 379 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: It's been visible for a while. And you know, we 380 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: have heard ad. 381 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 6: Nauseum the excuse, well, it's because of COVID. Well in 382 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 6: twenty twenty it was because of COVID, Yeah, but because 383 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 6: of the decisions by our very controversial and under fire 384 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 6: London breed the mayor who is going for reelection is November. 385 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 6: She just does not want to come clean with what 386 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 6: the issues were, which is her and her administrations overly prolonged, 387 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 6: overly harsh lockdowns when the rest of the United States 388 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 6: was functioning fairly normal or even to flourishing. 389 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: Right, So the blame has to be placed on her. 390 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: The butt stops with the mayor. She's in control. She 391 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: gets to set the tone. 392 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 6: She can also have declared all different types of policy 393 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 6: changes or emergencies to ensure that unions, I'm sorry, Union 394 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 6: Square and the whole area that's around it, all the 395 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 6: retail are protected. That we know that we had the 396 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 6: issue with the da Tesi Bodine and his policies are 397 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 6: not prosecute and his whole philosophy on there's no you know, victims, 398 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 6: these are these are it's not there's not victim crimes 399 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 6: you don't have to deal with. 400 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: Is it sinking in that all these progressive policies are 401 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: a disaster in many ways. 402 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: They're absolute disasters. You're correct, And the thing is the 403 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 6: way it's being spun. 404 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: Now, there this current uh you know. 405 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 6: Big bombshell that was dropped yesterday by Macy's. It hits 406 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 6: hard at the souls of the San Franciscans that were 407 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 6: born and raised here, because that was their life. Anyone 408 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 6: from nineteen forty seven onwards, as a kid, whatever their 409 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 6: ages till now, they would go there for Christmas and 410 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 6: holiday shopping. There were all sorts of events that were 411 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 6: tied to that particular location. San Francisco is not a 412 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 6: very big square mile city, you know, and this is 413 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 6: the heart, is the center of retail commerce. So with 414 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 6: it not being there is a very big deal. 415 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: Don't they who vote for and institute these progressive policies, 416 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: don't they miss those days? I mean, because now when 417 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: you've got crime, you've got you've got open air drug markets, 418 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: you've got shuttered empty stores, don't don't they don't they 419 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: have any nostalgia for the way the San Francisco used 420 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: to be, not that long ago. 421 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 6: Of course they do, and many of them have just 422 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 6: they the old school, old g residents. Many of them 423 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 6: have instead gone up north to Marin They go south 424 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 6: towards Palo Alto. 425 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: They go east if. 426 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 6: They can to do their shopping there, or if they're 427 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 6: able to savvy enough how to use Amazon and other 428 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 6: online delivery services. But it was more than just the 429 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 6: retail It's more than just going to a store and 430 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 6: buying what you need and going home. It was the 431 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 6: whole experience of being in that store and going to 432 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 6: the restaurants and the cafes and the bars after hours. 433 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 6: And it's just blocks away from our the theater district 434 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 6: as well, so it affects everything, all right. 435 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: Well, Richie Greenberg, thank you very much for coming on. 436 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: So he's good talking to you. 437 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: My pleasure, Richie, my pleasure. 438 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: Thank yeah, And Richie Greenberg counteractivists, would you call him 439 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: somebody who tries to fight to have a decent quality 440 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: of life in San Francisco. Good news is London breed 441 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: is starting to trail in the polls for reelection. I 442 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: mean this all breed, breed, This whole era of bad 443 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: progressive mayors has got to come to an end. They've 444 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: destroyed a lot of good cities and a lot of 445 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: good neighborhoods, and some may never come back. And and 446 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: for what what did you prove that you can just things? 447 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: You win? You're right, you destroyed the heart of a 448 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: great city. Congratulations. Criminals, drug addicts, everywhere, iconic stores like 449 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: Macy's closing up. You win. You destroyed things. You can 450 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: destroy things very quickly. It takes a lot longer to 451 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: build a city. 452 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: More. 453 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: Coming up after three o'clock, we're going to talk with 454 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: Lewanda Hawkins. She leads a group called Justice for Murdered Children. 455 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 2: She is angry with Gascone. Gascone refusing to come to 456 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: an LA County Crime Victims Forum. Yeah, that's the last 457 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: thing he cares about, even running for reelection in a 458 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: few days. He doesn't care. We'll talk to Lomanda. 459 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 5: Coming up, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from 460 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 5: KFI Am six forty. 461 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: After three o'clock, after Debra's news, we're going to talk 462 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: to Lamanda Hawkins. She's with a group called the La 463 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: Crime Victims for Justice for well, it's the event is 464 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: called the La Crime County Crime Victims Forum. She's with 465 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: a group called Justice for Murdered Children. Her son was 466 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: killed many years ago, and Gascone is refusing to attend 467 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: the forum because Gascon has no interest in talking to 468 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: victims of crime, not even on election. On the eve 469 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: of an election. Have you seen this video of the 470 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: fight in Venice between a naked woman and another woman 471 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: wearing a top and tights and she's got a spiked club. 472 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 7: I know, Sorry I missed that one. 473 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: You didn't see this? 474 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 7: I did not. 475 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: Oh, this is pretty wild. It's on TMZ. So there's 476 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: one woman. She's wearing a black tank top and looks 477 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: like a pair of tights, and she's got a spiked 478 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: club in her hand, and she's swinging at a very 479 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: thin nude woman with long brown hair, and the nude 480 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: woman has her arms up in like a defensive fighting stance, 481 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: and the clothed woman is trying to whack her with 482 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: the spiked club. Why why why? I don't have a why? 483 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 7: I have the what, but we don't know what led 484 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 7: up to this? 485 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: No naked why it's another that's we don't have a 486 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: y on that either. These things just happen in Venice. 487 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 7: And why are you staring at the video so much? 488 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to examine the fighting stance that the 489 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: naked woman is using. Is it Southpaw? I don't know, 490 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: let me see here, and she's backing up. I'm watching 491 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: it now, watching a video role and boy, how much 492 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: drugs do both of these have? To be on that. 493 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: It's a really deadly club. The woman with the club's 494 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: a little chunky, it's really filling out her clothes well 495 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: the and of course there's all these bystanders, and she's 496 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: really swinging hard like she means business. Now she chucked 497 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: the spiked club at the naked woman, who comes back 498 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: at her, waving it in the air, not walking too straight. 499 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: And apparently clothed woman picked up a bat. Oh yes, 500 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: now they're both armed. The larger woman has the bat 501 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: and the naked woman has the spiked club. And there 502 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: they go whaling at each other, and the naked woman 503 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: knocks the bat from her hands. Now she's got two weapons. 504 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: Let's see what's gonna happen here. I didn't watch this 505 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: all the way to the end. And they're both shouting 506 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: at each other. 507 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 7: Is it over a guy? 508 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: I don't think a guy's going near these two. That's 509 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: gonna be a bad weekend. You pick up one of 510 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: these two. Now she's picking up her clothes, the naked lady. 511 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 7: Oh did she just realize she's naked? 512 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: The clothes were tossed all over the boardwalk there and 513 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: that's it. Video comes to an end. Wow, we have 514 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: some audio. Did you play the audio? Go you hear 515 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: the by standard? Where's the police when you need him? 516 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: This is to deal with our hero walk like you 517 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: can't take your your toddler out for a walk on this. 518 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: I took my son, one one of my sons, once 519 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: the nice board walk because I wanted to show him 520 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: all the crazy people. I thought he would appreciate it. 521 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 7: Oh that's why you took it. 522 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no. There were no naked women out that day, 523 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: but we we went in one of the one of 524 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: the businesses. It was like a freak show business and 525 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: they had a two headed snake, I remember, and he 526 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: was excited to see the two headed snake. So it 527 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: was a successful trip. 528 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 7: I'm sure I used to take my kids there as well, 529 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 7: but back in the day, it wasn't like it is now. 530 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: No, No, that's yeah, it's funny. Nobody was getting in 531 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: the way of that. 532 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 7: I was gonna say, didn't anybody try to stop that? 533 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: No? 534 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: Well, you just get clubbed in the face with the 535 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: spiked with the spike bad, that's true. My favorite was 536 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: one of the bystanders. 537 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: He just got up real close with his phone, just 538 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: videotaping the whole thing, not a care in the world, just. 539 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: Another day of entertainment. We come back where you're talking. 540 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Lewanda Hawkins Justice for Murdered Children as her group. Her 541 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: son was murdered many years ago, back in nineteen ninety five, 542 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: and she's got an event that's going to be tomorrow 543 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: night from six to eight o'clock at two forty nine 544 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: South Los Angeles Avenue. It's the LA Crime Victims for him. 545 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: She invited Gascone. I mean he's running for reelection, a 546 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: little sympathy for the crime victims. No, he's refusing to come. 547 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Lawanda. Coming up, Deborah Mark live in 548 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 549 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear 550 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: the show live on KFI Am six forty from one 551 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course, 552 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.