1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show, about to be joined by Senator 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Bill Haggerty of Tennessee. And I've never had to say 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: this before ever on radio, so i just wanna hit 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: you guys with this. It is so cold right now 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: in the state of Tennessee that they have had a 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: massive and Senator Haggerty may know something about this and 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: be able to share for those of you in this 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: TVA region, they are potentially going to have to shut 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: down power all over the TVA region in the state 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: of Tennessee. And I'm reading directly from the Nashville Electric 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: Service here, but this may be happening in many different 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: parts of the country. I'm just sharing it with you 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: because it's possible this show is going to go to 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: black and I'm reading right now ANYS customers and this 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: is Nashville area, will be experienced seeing rotating intermittent power 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: outages in roughly ten minute increments every one and a 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: half to two hours until the power load is stabilized 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: for the amount of electricity and power that is needed 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: right now due to these low temperatures. So my point 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: on this is if you are driving around and suddenly, 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: in mid sentence I vanish, it is not because your 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: radios has ceased to work or your radio station is 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: now working. Also, it's not because I have been captured 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and dragged off the air. I should be fine, but 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: the power may be going out all over my area 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: where I am doing this live show from in New York. 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: They have got it's set up so that there will 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: be programming. But if we're in the middle of live 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: programming and suddenly you hear something else, everything is fine. 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: That's just the default that we are having to go to. 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm being honest. I'm never to say that on live 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: radio before, but I just got that notification. We bring 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: in now, Senator Bill Haggerty. We got a lot to 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: talk about with you, Senator, But have you heard anything 37 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: about this potential power shortage or the rotating power outages 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: that might be necessary in the state of Tennessee the 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: TVA authority, Yes, I certainly have Clay two generators are down. 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: They're working on it right now. They're trying to reduce 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: the TVA's trying to reduce its power load by about 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: five percent. But these incredibly low temperatures right right now, 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: it's five degrees where I am here at Nashville. These 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: incredibly low temperatures are putting I think, a big strain. 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: They've asked people to lower their temperatures to sixty eight 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: degrees to avoid using major appliances right now, so they 47 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: can get this problem resolved and get us back online. 48 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: But I think this is a sort of a precursor 49 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: to what we may expect all over the country. We've 50 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: got alliance now on a variety of fuel sources. Some 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: of them are reliable, some of them are not. And 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: if you think about when solar that sort of thing 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: that only work when the sun shining. If you think 54 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: about the fact that we've got coal fire plants that 55 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: are shuttered right now, and what we're doing is placing 56 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: ourselves in a position of vulnerability that we should never 57 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: be in. America has the ability, the capability to be 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: fully energy independent, and that capability is being frittered away 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: as we make ourselves more and more dependent on countries 60 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: like China, and we continue to shift. And look, I'm 61 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: not against me power source, don't get me wrong, but 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: I think we need to make certain that we have 63 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: a very robust and reliable power source throughout America. And 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: it's this sort of thing that makes us really, really 65 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: and we all should be deeply concerned, no doubt. And 66 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is just kind of a window. 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: And I'm using my particular location to tell this story 68 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: right now, but there are many parts of the country 69 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: that are going to be dealing with this as we 70 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: deal with right now now. In the Nashville area, for instance, 71 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: where you and I both are twenty six year record lows, 72 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: it was minus two this morning when I woke up 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: in the area of Nashville. I live in Franklin, Tennessee, 74 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Williamson County, Okay. So you and I were texting during 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: all this craziness going on with the one point seven 76 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: trillion dollars bill that passed the Senate yesterday, this omnibus bill. 77 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: So I want to start with this question. You voted 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: against it, and thank you for that vote. Eighteen Republican 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: senators voted for it. What were they thinking? Why did 80 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: they support this instead of forcing Democrats to pass this 81 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: as they could have fifty fifty I believe you can 82 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: let me know on the mechanics whether that would have 83 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: been possible. But instead eighteen Republican senators voted yes on 84 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: this one point seven trillion? Why did they vote yes? 85 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Why were you a know? What's the story there? First, 86 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: just from a procedural standpoint, this required sixty votes, so 87 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: ten Republican senators were necessary, so they couldn't have passed this. 88 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: This is important because I you know, again, a lot 89 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: of people don't understand the procedures of the Senate. If 90 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: there had not been ten Republicans vote yes, this bill 91 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: could not have been passed. In other words, this wasn't 92 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: a majority, only necessary bill in order to make it pass. 93 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: That is correct. That is correct. And now now much 94 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: of the spending, most of this crazy spending has been 95 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: done precisely the way you describe it. You know, go 96 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: back to March of twenty twenty one, when they passed 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: what they called the American Rescue Plan. Massive, massive subsidies 98 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: flowed into the marketplace at a time that our economy 99 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: and recovering that was really setting That's what really set 100 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: off this massive inflation that we're rolling with. That and 101 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: the energy policy that Biden is adopted, and then the 102 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: laughably titled Inflation Reduction Act, which is really just a 103 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Green New Deal with lipstick put on it. They passed 104 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: that with just fifty votes as well. But this vote, 105 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: the vote that took place yesterday, was basically for the 106 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: normal budget going forward next year. But it had a 107 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: lot of things in it that I was not comfortable with. 108 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: As you say, there are Republicans voted for it. There 109 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: are things that they wanted in that bill that they 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: were willing to go ahead and vote to pass it. 111 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: At this point in time, everybody's got to vote their conscience, 112 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: but it split our conference. I would have certainly preferred 113 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: to move this on on a short term basis into 114 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: next year and left our Republican House of Representatives have 115 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: a shot of dealing with this and undoing some of 116 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: the damage that the Biden administration and the Democrat controlled 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: House and Senate that they've done these past few years. 118 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: To begin to undo that, that will not be an 119 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: option for us for the next year because this bill, 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: this bill has passed yesterday, and again Chuck Schumer knew 121 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: that he had the votes, and that's why he brought 122 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: it to the floor in this manner. We almost had 123 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: it stop though, and where you'll remember on Wednesday night, 124 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: everything came just screeching halt because Chuck Schumer found out 125 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: something that he didn't realize, and that is there's actually 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: bipartisan support for addressing Title forty two. You know, a 127 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: district judge recently lifted that Title forty two is the 128 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: health related rationale for stopping people at the border and 129 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: turning them back. It's also a procedure that's much simpler 130 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: for our customs and border patrol agents to use to 131 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: in terms of the paperwork that's required to get somebody 132 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: processed and returned back to their home country. That is 133 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: no longer going to be in place. The district court 134 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: judge said that, look, there's no longer a pandemic. I 135 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: actually agree with that, so that rationale can no longer 136 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: be used. I've tried three times now as recently as 137 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday on the Senate floor to six Title forty two 138 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: and actually put in place a much more dreadful health concern, 139 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: and that is drug overdoses from fentonol and giving Title 140 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: forty two authority to our customs and Border patrol agents 141 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: when they suspect drugs smuggling may be in place. That 142 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: is a great reason to turn people back. It's frankly 143 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: one of the deadliest, the deadliest byproducts of this collapse 144 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: southern border that would have fixed this problem. And Democrats 145 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: go to be down bought me three times. Now that 146 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: we had this Title forty two amendment, that the tumor 147 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: found out that he had Democrats support for it, he 148 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: had to completely bring everything to a stop, to a 149 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: screeching halt on this omnibus bill. They used the night 150 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: to come up with a procedural trick that allowed his 151 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: Democrats to vote as if they support Title forty two, 152 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: to actually vote for putting funding in for the wall, 153 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: in supporting many of the Trump era policies that were 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: actually securing the border. They created this procedural gimmick that 155 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: they designed to fail, and they pushed that through and 156 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: brought us back to the floor yesterday morning and finished 157 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: the process of voting in this one point seven trillion 158 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: dollars mega spending bill that had so many bad things 159 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: in it. And I can't even tell you so, Senator. 160 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: You have worked in business before, and I think this 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: is important because you made a good amount of money, 162 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: you didn't have to do this. You care about the country, 163 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: so you've come back. There are a lot of people 164 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: that are professional politicians. Some of them are great, lot 165 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: of them, aren't you, well know, do they understand basic economics, 166 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: Like when you walk around and talk to people in Congress, 167 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: you've had to make a business meet a budget. Every 168 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: person listening to us out there has had to do 169 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: it too. We started the Tea Party at ten trillion 170 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: in debt. We're now well over thirty trillion in debt 171 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: in the last twelve years. We're seeing the consequences of 172 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: failed economic policy, as you mentioned, with inflation, with the 173 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: energy policy that's out there. This is frustrating because there's 174 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans listening to me right now, a 175 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: lot of independent voters, a lot of Democrats frankly who 176 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: listened to this show, and they're saying, man, what is 177 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: the difference between a Republican and a Democrat if both 178 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: of them are agreeing to spend one point seven trillion 179 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: dollars and not even fighting to try to balance our 180 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: budget in any way. I know that's frustrating to you, 181 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: but can you take us into the window of what 182 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: it's like to be a business person who could ever 183 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: run a for profit business like our country is being 184 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: run there. You're certainly right. You can't even run a 185 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: state this way because most states balanced budget requirements. So 186 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: it's unique to Washington the ability to print money, and 187 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: it gets down to priorities. I think in many cases. 188 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: I know a number of my colleagues were very focused 189 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: on the situation Ukraine. They wanted Ukraine funding in there. 190 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: That's why Chuck Schumer put it there, to bring them 191 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: across the line. I understand that. I don't agree with it, 192 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: but I understand it. So, you know, some folks will 193 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: put issues like that in front of the economic very 194 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: basic economic concerns that I have. But if you step 195 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: back and look at what's happened these past two years, 196 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: and that's been you know, I've only served in this Congress, 197 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: and I've only run for office once. In fact, I 198 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: was talking with coach Tommy Tuberville. I think he and 199 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: I are the only people, certainly in our conference who 200 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: have not been in some sort of elective office before. Yeah, 201 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: and we're both scratching our heads wondering how in the 202 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: world do you operate operate like this in Washington. But 203 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: since we've both been there, what we've seen as Democrats 204 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: use this reconciliation process, and without a single Republican vote, 205 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, just shoved through massive spending that is more 206 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: theology than any sort of economic economically grounded, economic grounded philosophy. 207 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: And they're they're pursuing this Green New Deal again, the 208 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: quote Inflation Reduction Act. That's all this is, is Green 209 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: New Deal. They go in and they bail out these 210 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: blue states that have actually operated recklessly. That that was 211 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: all jammed into that initial one point seven trillion dollars 212 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: package that they shoved through back in March of twenty 213 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: twenty one, you know, bailing out blue states, putting that 214 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: burden on red states like our own, or actually do 215 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: balance our budget. It really has just been an amazing 216 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: exercise in political theology and philosophy without any sort of 217 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: reckoning from an economic standpoint. And we're paying the prices 218 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned, over thirty trillion in debt. Every time the 219 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve has to raise interest rates one point one 220 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: hundred basis points one percent. That one percent translates into 221 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: over three hundred billion dollars a potential additional interest that 222 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: we have to three hundred billion clay. That's almost ten 223 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: times the size of Tennessee's budget. It's just it's just 224 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: grotesque what is taking place right now. We've got to 225 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: push back on this. We can push back on it. 226 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: We just need to make certain that we've got Republican control. 227 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: And that's why I hope that this spending package would 228 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: have just been continued over in the early part of 229 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: next year. We'd have had Republicans in the House and 230 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: begin to push back on some of this damage. That's 231 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: just not where we are right now. Last question for you, 232 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: and I think this is important too. We're finished in 233 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: the year. I want some optimism. You and I have 234 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: been texting about looking at the twenty twenty two data, 235 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: talking about what we saw there too. You're also a 236 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: tech guy. How much of the plan that was in 237 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: place for twenty twenty two get out the vote, let's 238 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: win tight elections has to be completely remade by Republicans 239 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. And are you optimistic we can 240 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: learn from what Democrats are doing and start to replicate 241 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: a lot of their get out the vote aspect, because 242 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: otherwise we're gonna lose Pennsylvania, We're gonna lose Arizona, We're 243 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: gonna lose potentially Georgia, many of these states that we 244 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: have to win to take back the White House. Well, Clay, 245 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: you and I were together on election night. You know 246 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: how sad I was, how exhausted. Yeah, I've been in 247 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: seven states in ten days campaigning, and I can tell 248 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: you on the ground we were winning. The polls showed 249 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: we were winning in the public sentiment leading into election day, 250 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: but we lost those races well before election day because 251 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: of the changes that Democrats brought about in terms of 252 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: voting rules. You know, some of these states have been 253 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: voting since August. In Nevada is a great example. They 254 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: mailed out ballots to everyone on the voting roles, and 255 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: you know they don't do a great job of leading 256 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: up these voting roles. So in places like Las Vegas, 257 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: some homes we're getting four and five ballots. Then it's 258 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: legal now in Nevada to go out in ballot harvest. 259 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: You can have paid ballot harvesters go door to door 260 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: and collect those ballots. Now do you know whether the 261 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: ballots is going to get there or not? Well, if 262 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: if it's a Democrat household or they like what Donna, 263 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: it probably does make its way into the quote dump 264 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: that happen, and they are allowed to continue to do 265 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: that all the way up until Saturday after election day 266 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so I watched Nevada happen, and day after day, Nevada, 267 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: by the way, Black's all lost by what eight thousand 268 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: votes or something about that magnitude minuscule. They just they 269 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: kept going until Friday until they got the number of 270 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Democrat votes that they needed. And they kept doing this 271 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: down around Las Vegas in Clark County and eventually got 272 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: to the point that they had what they needed to win. 273 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying what they did is illegal, but 274 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: we did not have the ground game to match that, 275 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: so you would not have have been talking about this state. 276 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: We absolutely have to revamp the way we do this. First, 277 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: we have to have a legal team to go in 278 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: and fight back as hard as the Democrats have to 279 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: get sanity back into state by state voting laws. I mean, 280 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: this whole notion of mailing out ballots to five and 281 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: six ballots go into a household that is ridiculous. And 282 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: then ballot harvesting like they've done. When Secretary of State 283 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: James Baker, former President Jimmy Carter sat on a bipartisan 284 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: Commission to look at the dangers of election integrity. The 285 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: two things they cited that were the most ripe for 286 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: fraud were mail out ballots, in ballots harvesting, and that's 287 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: exactly what the Democrats are focused on doing. So we 288 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: need to go back state by state push back on 289 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: these rules. But whatever the rules happen to be, when 290 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: the time comes to start voting, we've got to be 291 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: locked and loaded. We've got to have people on the ground. 292 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: We've got to have, you know, our folks working on 293 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: mail out ballots, and we've got to stay on this. 294 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: We've got to match the Democrats head to head on 295 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing on the ground. It was the ground 296 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: game I think to kill us. If you look at 297 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: the map going into twenty twenty four, you know that's 298 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: the source of optimism, and I'm with you. I want 299 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: to end this conversation in an optimistic way. The Democrats 300 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: have to defend twenty three seats going into twenty twenty four. 301 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: Republicans only have to defend ten, and three of those 302 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: seats are states that are basically Republican states. So we 303 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: definitely ought to be able to do this, but we 304 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: have to do just as you say, we have to 305 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: be able to match the Democrats at their own game 306 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: and not lose this on an operational basis. Mary, Christmas 307 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: to you and your family, Sender Haggardy. I appreciate the 308 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: time as always and look forward to crossing paths again 309 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: sometime soon. Thank you, Clay. 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And Jason is 372 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: a former congressman from Minnesota's second district, also was a 373 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: member of the House Budget Committee, and he's been a 374 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: guest host for Rush and he's going to be having 375 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: a good time with Todd book Party Animal, the truth 376 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: about President Trump, power, politics, and the partisan press. And Jason, 377 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us right now. And I want to 378 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: hit you with this Representative Dan Bishop, who's done a 379 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 1: great job letting it be known what all is in 380 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: the omnibus bill said, this new one point seven trillion 381 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: dollars Omnibus bill spins and this is crazy. Six billion 382 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: dollars per day, two hundred and fifty million dollars per hour, 383 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: and four million dollars per minute every day until September thirtieth, 384 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: when the process will start all over again. You were, 385 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the hundred Biden stimulus package for strippers would 386 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: definitely be would definitely be helped here. You've been through 387 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: this process before, but the rush job everything associated with it. 388 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: Did anything surprise you about the way this all went down? Well, 389 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: when you get to Congress, claim great to be with you. 390 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, you look around the room at first, at 391 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: that first caucus meeting and you say, Hi, all these 392 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: famous people here in Washington. I'm not certain I belong here. 393 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: And after about six months you look around the room 394 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: and say, I'm not certain they belong here. It doesn't 395 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: take long to realize what the swamp really is. And 396 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: that's why when we had controlled the budget process and 397 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: did three budget reconciliation resolutions, you know, Mitt Rodney said 398 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: the other day, Oh, we got to do this entire 399 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: fiscal year spending blowout because we just can't trust Republicans 400 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: in the House to fashion a budget. We did it 401 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: in one hundred and fifteenth Congress. Obama left us a 402 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: six month budget. We had to do that one. Then 403 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: we did eighteen and nineteen, and you know what, the 404 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: total discretionary spending was then one point one three two trillion. 405 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: You know what it is now with this one point 406 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: seven so over a half a trillion dollars in spending 407 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: in the matter of a couple of years since the 408 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: Trump administration, since I served in Congress. This is a 409 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: total betrayal by Senate Republicans. It is a total betrayal 410 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: by Senate leadership. And I'll tell you it's nothing new, Clay. 411 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: Remember when we repealed Obamacare in twenty seventeen, we had 412 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: it done, two tough votes, people like Dan Bishops stood up, 413 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: stuck their neck out, got it over to the Senate. 414 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: It's going to go to Conference committee until John McCain 415 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: and Lisa Mrakowski say up thumbs down. We kill that. 416 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: The Senate is where all good things go to die 417 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: in publican politics, and it's got to change or But 418 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: they're not gonna have any support left. The Party's not 419 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna have any support left this year from a lot 420 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: of people. And I'm glad you brought that up. But 421 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: the number one thing that I am hearing in the 422 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: wake of this one point seven trillion being spent is 423 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: not people angry at Democrats, because look, I mean, they're 424 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: doing what they promised to their constituents. They would be 425 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: they would do spending. They're put on earth to bankrupt 426 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: the country. That's right. And but eighteen Republican senators went 427 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: along with this, And as Bill Haggarty just told us, 428 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: if they hadn't gotten to sixty, in other words, if 429 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: only nine Republicans had gone along with it, they couldn't 430 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: have ram through this one point seven trillion, and we 431 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: would have been able to allow that Republican House to 432 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: at least have a go at it in the beginning 433 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Yeah, you do a cr for 434 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and then the House Budget Committee 435 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: has to do three budget reconciliations like we did in 436 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. It's it's not that difficult 437 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: unless you really want to spend the money, unless you 438 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: like what the Democrats are doing in the Senate. And 439 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't just this omnibus spending bill, Respect for Marriage Act, 440 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: which basically codified the hodja's decision nationwide amnesty voter ID 441 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: federalizing elections. You had the Dirty Dozen that expanded, led 442 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: by Tom Tillis of North Carolina. So Dan Bishop knows 443 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: of what he speaks. But you had the dirty dozen 444 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: on the Respect for Marriage bill that expanded into eighteen 445 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: on the Omnibus bill. And I you know, I think 446 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: the Republican Party needs to go back and look at 447 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Ike's farewell speech when he said the military industrial complex 448 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: and now it's the national security state. They upped the 449 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: FBI appropriation Republicans after what we know the Bureau has done. 450 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: These guys like this stuff, and they've got sort of 451 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: this national Security State apparatus, which is telling them, oh, 452 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: we got to have increases there, we got to have 453 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: increases in the Pentagon. No audit of bill I sponsored. 454 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: So in order to get that, Schoomer says, okay, then 455 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: we'll double social spending too. And so they come to 456 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: an agreement that basically puts the next generation of kids 457 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: on the hook for it, and they're not going to 458 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: be able to pay it off the debt. We're gonna 459 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: have a sovereign debt crisis soon. Where does all this go? 460 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, because what I started the show talking about 461 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: was the Team Party began its protest against wild government 462 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: spending when we had a ten trillion dollar deficit. That 463 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: was the number that set off alarm enthodness. Yeah, tentrillion 464 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: dollar debt. Yeah, maybe we'll have a budget at some 465 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: point the way things are going. But now we're over 466 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: thirty trillion, and if you look at that, in the 467 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: space of twelve years, we basically added twenty trillion in debt. 468 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: That's a roughly, you know, one and a half trillion 469 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: a year or so. That means in twenty years we 470 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: might be sitting at a sixty or seventy trillion dollars 471 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: debt if we continue at the same pace, and god 472 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen with inflation and overall borrowing 473 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: costs going up, that just eats up more and more 474 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: of the federal budget on a year to year basis. 475 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: How does this change what happens? Well, the vigilantees used 476 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: to call them the bond vigilantees, you know, and the 477 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: government would have a blowout. Interest rates would rise because 478 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: they weren't printing money, and that would rain in the 479 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: spending somewhat. Well, now, since really Bill Clinton, the glue 480 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: that's held this together has been artificially low interest rates 481 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: by the Fed. What that did, essentially, it was monetize 482 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: all this spending you're talking about when you have all 483 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: that fiat money and the FED is just putting a 484 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: credit on the Treasury's checkbook, then soon you'll have massive inflation. 485 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: And then you'll get interest rates rising no matter what 486 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: the FED does, because they'll be out of tools. So 487 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: this is the problem with printing money. It takes off 488 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: the guard rails of spending Clay. I mean, if you 489 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: didn't print the money, interest rates with either skyrocket or 490 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: taxes with skyrocket, and there would be a revolt. But 491 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: if you're printing the money, it's the worst way to 492 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 1: debauch a currency. It's the worst way to raise taxes 493 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: on the next generation. And I think the bill is 494 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: going to come do soon because has rates rise, just 495 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: interest on servicing the debt a year will be a 496 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: trillion dollars in the federal budget. Yea, And so now 497 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: i's unsustainable. You're quite right, yeah, And it's terrifying because 498 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people understand that. But 499 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, when you have a low interest rate environment, 500 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: the cost of borrowing is effectively limited to a subsidial 501 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: degree subsidized. And now you're dealing with what's going to 502 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: have to be you know, five and six percent interest rates, 503 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: and we just had Bill Haggerty on talking about just 504 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: what the cost of that interest is, and it's it's 505 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: frankly unsustainable. So I don't know how it blows up, 506 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know how bad it's going to get. Well, 507 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: will become a third world banana republic that keeps devaluing 508 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: its currency. So if you've saved up five hundred thousand 509 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: dollars to retire, it'll be worth two hundred thousand. We'll 510 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: just devalue it, and so it will make everyone poorer. 511 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: And then if you get you know, if the Chinese 512 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: get their way and currency becomes the international currency, then 513 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: you're really gonna have a run on the dollar. We 514 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: are flirting with disaster, we really are, and I don't 515 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: think and that's why to your earlier point, Clay, people 516 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: are so upset with those Republicans. They're supposed to be 517 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: the green eye shade, you know, bookkeepers that keep this 518 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: thing in check, and they just went over to the 519 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: dark side. Well, I know you're gonna have a lot 520 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: of opportunity to talk to our audience next week. We 521 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: can't out wait for you guys to sit in. We 522 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: thank you for being willing to sit in talk to 523 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: our audience. I know they're gonna love hearing from you, 524 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: and hopefully you can help too. It'll be clay. It'll 525 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: be just like a Vikings game in the fourth quarter. 526 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: You have no idea how it's going to turn out. Hey, 527 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: at least your field goal kickers in the playoffs are 528 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: always reliable. I hope that wasn't too awful blow for 529 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: all the Viking fans out there. It's a good thing. 530 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: We've got low taxes up here. It's all I gotta say. Hey, 531 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: I live in Tennessee. We got no state income tax. 532 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy with that. We'll talk with Power at some point. 533 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: If that happens, you'll be back. But in the meantime, 534 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: you'll definitely be back on Monday. And thanks for everything 535 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: you're doing for the show. And I know our audience 536 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: is gonna love hearing from you. Lay. 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Subscribe to 572 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: CNB twenty four to seven had never miss a minute 573 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: of Clay and Buck while getting behind the scene access 574 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: to special content for members only. Welcome back in Clay 575 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: chre Avis, Buck Sexton show. You know. One big positive 576 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two. I'm gonna spend the last hour, 577 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: can open up phone lines. We're gonna have some funds 578 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: to the final show before Christmas, but also the final 579 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: show that Buck or Eye will be on with you 580 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: until after the New year. But one big positive of 581 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, beyond a shadow of a doubt is 582 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: we did manage to retire Nancy Pelosi. Her political career 583 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: lasted far too long and was far too successful, but 584 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: is now over. And she just gave essentially her final 585 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: speech as Speaker of the United States Congress, and I 586 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: want you to listen. Here do Nancy Belosi struggle her 587 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: way through trying to wish you all a merry Christmas. 588 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: Listen to this. I urged strong bipartisan I vote yield 589 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 1: back the balance of my time in which everyone a happy, 590 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: healthy and safe New Year, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, happy Schwanza, 591 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: happy Hanuka, whatever it is you celebrate the safe. Thank 592 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: you mister speaking happy Schwanza. I've always been a big 593 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: fan personally of the Schwanza holiday, always thought it's very underrated. 594 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: Under disgusted. She can't even speak. I just want you 595 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: to think about how much different the country would be 596 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: if we had an upper end age limit for representing 597 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: the United States. These people get in power and they 598 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: will never leave. They won't leave. Term limits would help, 599 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: but you can't represent Congress unless you're a certain age, right. 600 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: I think it's twenty six now. I think you have 601 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: to be twenty six years old. Twenty five, whatever the 602 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: heck it is. Can't be a senator until you're what thirty? 603 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: I think, can't be president until you're thirty five. I 604 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: know that one if I messed up, how sort of 605 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: the Senate crew can let me know what the age 606 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: limits are there? I think it's twenty six and thirty 607 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: and thirty five. I think that's it. And I understand 608 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: why we have the lower level age limits. It was 609 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: because we were concerned about hereditary power, and you didn't 610 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: want to end up in a situation where somebody names 611 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: their eighteen year old or sixteen year old president of 612 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: the United States because they're so popular and allows them 613 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: to rule as a default leader. I mean, look, the 614 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: founders were brilliant, and we underdiscuss how much they had 615 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: studied all of the aspects by which countries had been 616 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: ruled up to the founding of the United States, and 617 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: they were attempting to learn from history so they could 618 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: put in place the best possible system for governance. And 619 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: it is why the United States is the envy of 620 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: the world, because they looked at thousands of years of 621 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: governmental history and pulled the best from all of these 622 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: different governments before them and created our own unique system 623 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: of government. It really is, I know, an incredible success story. 624 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: But they're brilliance to look at all of history and 625 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: try to guard against the pratfalls of man is the 626 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: essence of the bridge alliance of our system of government. 627 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: But they wanted the lower level age limit, I think, 628 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: frankly because people died back in the day so young. 629 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: They never thought we would have an eighty two year 630 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: old president running for reelection, which I think we are 631 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: going to have with Joe Biden in twenty twenty four. 632 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: And frankly, one of the most challenging aspects of President 633 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: Trump running against Joe Biden, I believe in twenty twenty 634 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: four is it undercuts an argument that Biden is too 635 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: old when Trump himself would be seventy eight years old, 636 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: because then Joe Biden can say, well, I'm eighty two 637 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: and I'm clearly not in health. But Donald Trump would 638 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: be seventy eight, and I understand by the way people 639 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: are different levels of health. Trump still plays golf every day, 640 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: sometimes twenty seven holes of golf down at Mara Lago. 641 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: If you meet tru Ump and you meet Biden, there 642 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: is no doubt that they seem more than four years 643 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: apart in age, because Biden can barely walk. Just watch 644 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: Biden walk at some point. Unfortunately, we've already seen him 645 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: fall going up the stairs. At some point, he's going 646 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: to fall in the White House lawn just trying to 647 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: walk to get on the helicopter. I'm not rooting for it. 648 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: We've already seen him fall off a bike. That's going 649 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: to happen his gate. His walking ability is not in 650 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: a good shape for a eighty year old man, just 651 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: not now. He's fortunate, he's eighty years old. He's outlived 652 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: the average American lifespan. I wish him well, but we 653 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: never thought that we would have eighty two year old 654 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden running against seventy eight year old, potentially Donald Trump. 655 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: We should never thought about it because I think our 656 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: founders did not anticipate the lifespans that many of us 657 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: would have, and so the fact that they put in 658 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: a lower level limitation on age was based on the 659 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: historical record. I think if they were looking now, they 660 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: would say, look, Nancy Pelosi can't speak Mary, can we 661 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: play that one more time? As we go to break here? 662 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi's final moment as the House of Representatives. As 663 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: the speaker, she wants all of you to have a 664 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: happy Schwanza, strong bipartisan Eye. Boat, you'll back the balance 665 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: of my time in which everyone a happy, healthy and 666 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: safe New Year, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Schwanza, happy Hanuka. 667 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: But ever it is you celebrate. Happy everybody opening up 668 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: phone lines, final hour of the year. We've had an 669 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: incredible year. I'll talk about what we've experienced, what I 670 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: think we're going to see going forward. Give you reason 671 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: for optimism as we move forward into twenty twenty three. 672 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: Buck and Eye have had an amazing year with all 673 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: of you. We'll put a bow on it next hour 674 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: or this acclaimed Buck show. Thank you for hanging with 675 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: us on Christmas. Fleet, Travis and Buck Sexton on the 676 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: front lines of truth. Our friends at Hillsdale College wish 677 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: you and yours a happy and blessed Christmas and a 678 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: healthy and prosperous New Year. 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