WEBVTT - Patriots Playbook 11/6: Titans Recap, Bears Preview 0:00:30.425 --> 0:00:33.945 Patriots Catch twenty two. We'll join Evan Lazar and Alex 0:00:33.985 --> 0:00:36.544 Bart every Thursday as they take a deep dive into 0:00:36.585 --> 0:00:39.665 the exits and o's trends and latest New England Patriots 0:00:39.784 --> 0:00:40.385 roster moves. 0:00:40.465 --> 0:00:44.065 And I'm usually into the numbers. Okay, we do something. 0:00:44.105 --> 0:00:45.585 I'm into the tangible numbers. 0:00:45.585 --> 0:00:46.664 There's there's tame here. 0:00:46.745 --> 0:00:49.265 Just give me. There's the advantage that fact. Haven't know 0:00:49.305 --> 0:00:52.224 how to work it. I'm surprised an old man over here. 0:00:52.265 --> 0:00:53.785 I thought maybe i'd have to show you like a 0:00:53.945 --> 0:00:54.905 vitorial or something. 0:00:55.065 --> 0:00:55.825 How am I old man? 0:00:56.065 --> 0:00:59.705 Search for Patriots Catch twenty two? Anywhere you get your podcast. 0:01:02.745 --> 0:01:05.265 On page playbook Legends are born. 0:01:05.345 --> 0:01:08.625 John Brook brings the heat rain of storms from brain 0:01:08.905 --> 0:01:12.105 cs to new Stars, rising the playbooks up and it's 0:01:12.105 --> 0:01:16.705 so massive rising and so the playbook Patriots. Give's your host, 0:01:16.905 --> 0:01:21.465 Joan Brook, legend, voice of the New England Patriots. 0:01:21.944 --> 0:01:23.465 It's Patriots Playbook. 0:01:26.065 --> 0:01:30.825 You gotta get them. Yeah, fellow, I don't know what 0:01:30.865 --> 0:01:31.385 this was. 0:01:32.825 --> 0:01:36.265 I can do this. Turntable hands. I gotta put those 0:01:36.265 --> 0:01:39.544 turned table hands in. Yeah, right, do the la la law. 0:01:39.865 --> 0:01:50.745 I turntable hands, turntable I gotta give marine credit. 0:01:51.145 --> 0:01:54.585 Those were clever. Yeah, those were clever. I mean, I'm 0:01:54.625 --> 0:01:56.705 a big fan of you know, Evan, you know from 0:01:56.785 --> 0:02:00.145 the locker room too, but those were those are clever, 0:02:00.305 --> 0:02:03.904 Those are clever. So excellent job, an excellent job. 0:02:03.945 --> 0:02:06.105 We need to put a camera on Marine though, because 0:02:06.105 --> 0:02:08.025 he's bump he's bumping in there. 0:02:09.265 --> 0:02:13.105 I love music, I love it. 0:02:13.625 --> 0:02:15.865 We just I just wanted to be documented, that's all. 0:02:17.345 --> 0:02:19.025 So that way we get like embarrass him in front 0:02:19.025 --> 0:02:21.505 of his kids later that kind of thing, or in 0:02:21.545 --> 0:02:23.065 front of his next don't do this in front of 0:02:23.065 --> 0:02:26.785 them already. That's probably also true, right kids, the same 0:02:26.825 --> 0:02:31.264 moves to the power, poor poor kids. Hey, Patroon fans, 0:02:31.265 --> 0:02:32.705 I'm gonna do this right now and get this in 0:02:32.705 --> 0:02:35.225 early patri vans. If you want to see Toyota's best offers, 0:02:35.265 --> 0:02:39.465 including those not seen on TV. Right not seen on TV, 0:02:39.625 --> 0:02:42.425 go to buy a Toyota dot Com Toyota's official website 0:02:42.425 --> 0:02:45.585 for deals from the official vehicle of the New England Patriots, Toyota. 0:02:45.785 --> 0:02:48.025 Let's go places. I'm John Rook. We welcome you into 0:02:48.025 --> 0:02:52.305 the Patriots Playbook for a Wednesday, and you know Evan 0:02:52.385 --> 0:02:55.145 Lazar is here. We will also have the one and 0:02:55.185 --> 0:02:58.585 only Mike Greeese from ESPN on the program today. Russell 0:02:58.665 --> 0:03:00.625 Baxter will be back today as we go week ten 0:03:00.665 --> 0:03:03.425 around the NFL this week, you know, And yeah, we're 0:03:03.465 --> 0:03:06.945 gonna talk about dub AARs, but they've got their own issues, 0:03:06.985 --> 0:03:08.425 which I'm sure you and I will jump into in 0:03:08.425 --> 0:03:10.345 a little bit and we'll catch everybody up to date 0:03:10.385 --> 0:03:14.945 if you're not totally initiated with them. And two and seven, 0:03:16.465 --> 0:03:18.705 like I said, we kind of have our own issues too. 0:03:20.945 --> 0:03:28.145 I'm left with two overwhelming thoughts hit me from Tennessee. Yeah, 0:03:28.425 --> 0:03:34.705 Number one, May is a baller, okay, which I'm really 0:03:34.745 --> 0:03:36.825 happy to see. And I feel I'm sure like most 0:03:36.825 --> 0:03:39.705 of the fans in this regard. I mean, guy just 0:03:39.785 --> 0:03:44.985 balls out and I'm like, whoa, Okay, that's number one. 0:03:45.145 --> 0:03:50.265 Number two, there's no talent on this team, not near enough. 0:03:50.345 --> 0:03:53.505 There's some talent, okay. I say that with all due 0:03:53.505 --> 0:03:55.345 respect to the guys in the locker room were working 0:03:55.385 --> 0:03:59.465 their asses off. They are, but he needs a lot 0:03:59.465 --> 0:04:04.225 of help. And so now to me, what I'd like 0:04:04.305 --> 0:04:06.745 to see from this team over the course of the 0:04:06.825 --> 0:04:10.905 last eight weeks, because we're now officially past the halfway 0:04:10.945 --> 0:04:15.505 point nine down, eight to go by week, coming up 0:04:15.545 --> 0:04:19.825 in another week or two, and so I just I 0:04:19.865 --> 0:04:24.784 want to see some progress number one wins and losses. 0:04:24.784 --> 0:04:27.065 I'm not going to measure progress and wins and losses. 0:04:27.705 --> 0:04:29.745 I think I probably gave up on that one about 0:04:29.745 --> 0:04:32.904 six week weeks ago, so I've had to reevaluate. I 0:04:32.945 --> 0:04:38.385 thought this team honestly with what it hadknown, not knowing 0:04:38.425 --> 0:04:41.505 at the time that there was this plan, which I'm 0:04:41.505 --> 0:04:43.864 still not sure really what the plan was, if it 0:04:43.945 --> 0:04:46.625 really even existed. I'm a you know, I'm a big 0:04:46.625 --> 0:04:49.545 conspiracy theorist. You know, there's more than one shooter for 0:04:49.625 --> 0:04:52.705 JFK Okay, that's all. I'm one of those people. But 0:04:53.544 --> 0:04:57.305 as far as the Patriots plan for this year, I 0:04:57.305 --> 0:05:00.904 don't think so. All right, maybe someday we'll go into that. 0:05:02.904 --> 0:05:06.504 What I'm kind of looking at now, though, is this season, 0:05:06.745 --> 0:05:12.825 this franchise's immediate future is incumbent upon Elliott Wolf and 0:05:12.865 --> 0:05:21.224 the scouting staff identifying players who can play. Yeah. I mean, 0:05:21.344 --> 0:05:23.145 we all love Bill for what he did over a 0:05:23.185 --> 0:05:26.945 number of years, but it is documented, it is well known, 0:05:27.065 --> 0:05:29.025 and it is a large reason that he is no 0:05:29.145 --> 0:05:34.825 longer here because he came up short as build a GM, Eldred, 0:05:34.865 --> 0:05:37.665 You'll be happy to hear me say that. Okay, he 0:05:37.705 --> 0:05:41.265 came up way short as build a GM. Build a 0:05:41.305 --> 0:05:45.304 coach still, Okay, yeah, build a GM, although I think 0:05:45.305 --> 0:05:49.625 we could also probably surmise that that was a fundamentally 0:05:49.664 --> 0:05:52.544 flawed mistake, you know, bringing in Matt Patricia as an 0:05:52.544 --> 0:05:56.504 offensive coordinator. Okay, So what I need to see now, 0:05:56.984 --> 0:05:59.785 and please I want you to you know, differ with 0:05:59.904 --> 0:06:04.984 me if you do, But I need to see the 0:06:05.065 --> 0:06:08.425 guys who have any interest in playing NFL football. I 0:06:08.505 --> 0:06:11.145 need to see them busting tail. I need to see 0:06:11.305 --> 0:06:16.664 guys playing through whatever ails them. I need to see 0:06:16.705 --> 0:06:19.425 more like Drake who's a week off of going through 0:06:19.625 --> 0:06:23.985 protocol and he's freaking diving and running and going ahead 0:06:24.104 --> 0:06:26.744 first and I'm like, wow, that's I mean, that's like, 0:06:27.385 --> 0:06:29.345 how could you not be inspired by that if you're 0:06:29.424 --> 0:06:31.705 one of his teams? Yeah? I need to see that 0:06:31.784 --> 0:06:34.624 from other people. I need to see Jalen Polk decide 0:06:34.664 --> 0:06:37.025 he wants to play football instead of being a prima donna. 0:06:37.344 --> 0:06:39.825 I need to see some others decide to bust their 0:06:39.865 --> 0:06:44.464 tails as opposed to just kind of letting it happen, 0:06:44.904 --> 0:06:47.344 you know, And that's really what I want to see. 0:06:47.424 --> 0:06:49.265 I thought this team, like I started to say, I 0:06:49.265 --> 0:06:51.625 thought this team had the capability of winning five or 0:06:51.664 --> 0:06:55.104 six games. I really did. I felt very strongly about it. 0:06:55.505 --> 0:06:58.065 I ain't gonna get there. Yeah, and so now I've 0:06:58.104 --> 0:07:01.864 reevaluated could they well, yeah, I guess anything could happen. 0:07:02.065 --> 0:07:04.344 They got seven games left. Could they win five of those? 0:07:05.145 --> 0:07:07.905 I doubt it. But I'm just saying I want to 0:07:07.945 --> 0:07:10.265 see effort. I want to see guys start to rise 0:07:10.265 --> 0:07:13.825 to it. I want them to make Elliott and Gerrod 0:07:14.425 --> 0:07:18.585 and everyone's job tougher when it comes to deciding, all right, 0:07:19.065 --> 0:07:23.065 who's worth sticking around who's not. Now to that end, 0:07:23.065 --> 0:07:26.145 I think that process kind of got started this week 0:07:26.945 --> 0:07:30.145 because there was no trading before the trade deadline. Yeah, 0:07:30.265 --> 0:07:33.185 so they're like, okay, how we were really going to 0:07:33.225 --> 0:07:37.905 improve ourselves week. You know, our guys here are developmental, 0:07:38.785 --> 0:07:42.785 so let's continue to develop them before we shoot them 0:07:42.785 --> 0:07:44.304 to the side. What do you think? 0:07:44.465 --> 0:07:46.465 Yeah, I think you made a lot of really good points. 0:07:46.545 --> 0:07:50.265 I look at this team right now, and there's there's 0:07:50.305 --> 0:07:53.864 like macro level issues, and there's micro level issues, and 0:07:54.425 --> 0:07:59.425 sometimes just For me personally in season, I tend to 0:07:59.465 --> 0:08:04.585 focus more on the micro of what's actually going on 0:08:04.585 --> 0:08:07.985 on the field because we all understand on a macro 0:08:08.105 --> 0:08:10.385 level that they just don't They simply just don't have 0:08:10.505 --> 0:08:14.825 enough talent on this roster really at this point because 0:08:14.865 --> 0:08:17.345 of the attrition on the defense on either side of 0:08:17.385 --> 0:08:20.304 the ball coming into the season, when you had Kyle 0:08:20.385 --> 0:08:22.945 Duggart healthy, and you had Jabriel Peppers and you had 0:08:23.025 --> 0:08:26.585 Christian Barmore. Obviously you know Judah and I don't think 0:08:26.585 --> 0:08:28.545 we was a part of their plans for this year, 0:08:28.585 --> 0:08:31.145 so I don't necessarily count him, but Judahan, if you 0:08:31.185 --> 0:08:34.385 want to count him. You looked at this roster Jwan 0:08:34.465 --> 0:08:38.865 Bentley defensively and you said, okay, they have some talent 0:08:39.105 --> 0:08:40.905 on the defensive side of the ball, that a lot 0:08:40.945 --> 0:08:43.464 of that has withered away, so that side of the 0:08:43.505 --> 0:08:46.745 ball is dealing with that. Offensively, we knew coming into 0:08:46.745 --> 0:08:48.265 the year they didn't have a lot of talent, and 0:08:48.305 --> 0:08:50.545 they still don't have a lot of talent. So I 0:08:50.545 --> 0:08:54.065 look at Elliott Wolf and I understand a lot of 0:08:54.065 --> 0:09:00.065 people's frustrations with the lack of additions to the roster. 0:09:00.865 --> 0:09:05.185 Certainly the draft last year right now is looking like 0:09:05.304 --> 0:09:06.864 Drake May is the only guy that you're going to 0:09:06.905 --> 0:09:08.905 get out of that. Now, that's the biggest position in 0:09:08.944 --> 0:09:10.704 the sport. So I don't want to downplay. 0:09:10.704 --> 0:09:11.944 It's still disappointing. 0:09:12.064 --> 0:09:15.465 It's disappointing, and it was also not to take anything 0:09:15.505 --> 0:09:18.785 away from the scouting department. I could have made that pick, 0:09:19.105 --> 0:09:21.345 and you could have made that pick, and Marine could 0:09:21.345 --> 0:09:25.944 have made that pick right, like you know, like every 0:09:25.944 --> 0:09:26.665 single one it was. 0:09:27.225 --> 0:09:30.344 Do we not say if Jayden Daniels isn't there, it's definitely. 0:09:30.545 --> 0:09:32.825 Yeah, you can sit there at three and take Drake 0:09:32.905 --> 0:09:36.905 May right. And again, I'm not trying to I know 0:09:36.985 --> 0:09:39.265 that sounded like a shot. I'm not trying to know, 0:09:39.625 --> 0:09:42.745 but that's just the bottom line. So what separates the 0:09:42.785 --> 0:09:45.025 men from the boys when it comes to the draft 0:09:45.304 --> 0:09:47.385 is what did you do in rounds two through seven? 0:09:47.465 --> 0:09:49.344 Because it's easy for us to sit here and take 0:09:49.385 --> 0:09:51.665 the third overall pick and say this is the best 0:09:51.704 --> 0:09:54.065 player for that draft pick. But what did you do 0:09:54.105 --> 0:09:57.145 in round two, three, four, five, and so on? So far? 0:09:57.304 --> 0:10:01.145 Right now, we don't even know if those guys can 0:10:01.145 --> 0:10:04.545 play NFL football, let alone if they can contribute in 0:10:04.944 --> 0:10:08.585 a big way, you know, it'd be big time pillars 0:10:08.665 --> 0:10:10.304 or anything like that. Like, we don't even know if 0:10:10.345 --> 0:10:11.905 Jalen Polk's an NFL wide receiver. 0:10:12.064 --> 0:10:14.345 No, we don't right now, which is sad. Yeah, we 0:10:14.345 --> 0:10:16.825 should know that by now. It's midseason, right. 0:10:16.785 --> 0:10:20.025 And then you look at how they handled free agency 0:10:20.105 --> 0:10:23.465 in the veteran market last March. You know, they re 0:10:23.585 --> 0:10:26.064 signed a lot of their own guys. They didn't make 0:10:26.105 --> 0:10:29.464 any real splashes in terms of additions from the outside. 0:10:30.184 --> 0:10:32.545 So I get all that. The one thing, and I 0:10:32.585 --> 0:10:35.064 said this on Tuesday, that I would say in an 0:10:35.064 --> 0:10:38.425 Elliott wolf in the front office's defense is that when 0:10:38.465 --> 0:10:41.865 you go into an off season, it's your first year 0:10:41.905 --> 0:10:46.225 on the job. You have no quarterback, you have no culture, 0:10:46.385 --> 0:10:50.785 you have no identity, You have really no nothing drawing 0:10:50.865 --> 0:10:54.145 free agents here, as we found out with Calvin Ridley, right, 0:10:54.304 --> 0:10:56.905 you really have no nothing to hang your hat on 0:10:57.625 --> 0:11:02.545 to sell to anybody. Right now, let's give him this 0:11:02.625 --> 0:11:06.344 off season coming up where they're gonna end. They're gonna 0:11:06.345 --> 0:11:12.105 be able to use all their assets on non quarterback positions, right, 0:11:12.184 --> 0:11:15.265 you know, they're gonna be able to attack receiver, tackle, 0:11:15.505 --> 0:11:19.625 edge rusher, corner and potentially linebacker, but like, there's tons 0:11:19.665 --> 0:11:21.705 of holes. Just just pick them, every single one on 0:11:21.745 --> 0:11:24.665 the offensive line, right, like you You're gonna be able 0:11:24.704 --> 0:11:27.345 to address all that with one hundred million dollars in 0:11:27.385 --> 0:11:30.545 cap space, a high draft pick in every single round, 0:11:31.184 --> 0:11:34.184 probably another top five or ten pick in the first round. 0:11:34.745 --> 0:11:36.745 So let's see what they do with all of that, 0:11:36.905 --> 0:11:39.545 because it does appear that they've hit on the quarterback. Now, 0:11:40.025 --> 0:11:42.465 the micro level of the in game stuff to me 0:11:43.865 --> 0:11:46.864 is that I have so many questions right now. O. 0:11:46.905 --> 0:11:49.944 Wait, let me understand. We're going from macro to micro right. 0:11:49.905 --> 0:11:54.584 Ok, big picture to live Yeah, because sometimes, like today, 0:11:54.745 --> 0:11:57.385 I'll be honest with you, John, I sometimes I lose 0:11:57.385 --> 0:12:00.625 the forest for the trees in season, right, every day 0:12:01.225 --> 0:12:03.425 every day, And so I have to remind myself of 0:12:04.345 --> 0:12:07.305 when I watch them on film and I'm pulling my 0:12:07.385 --> 0:12:09.585 hair out because there's things that are going wrong that 0:12:09.625 --> 0:12:14.025 shouldn't be going wrong. I have to remind myself that 0:12:14.145 --> 0:12:16.585 there's not a whole lot of talent on this team. 0:12:16.824 --> 0:12:17.585 So you're at. 0:12:17.704 --> 0:12:21.745 Pains, right, I mean, how do you get this bad? 0:12:22.145 --> 0:12:25.344 Yeah? So you look at you know, things like for example, 0:12:26.064 --> 0:12:29.304 one of the things that I have Frankly, just to 0:12:29.345 --> 0:12:33.944 be honest, I cannot watch their run defense right now. 0:12:34.425 --> 0:12:38.304 I can't watch it. It absolutely Watching their run defense 0:12:38.385 --> 0:12:41.744 every Monday on film is like the bane of my existence. 0:12:41.785 --> 0:12:44.905 I think they re energized Tony Pollard season last week. 0:12:45.064 --> 0:12:49.545 It is painful. It befits the inability to get off blocks, 0:12:50.145 --> 0:12:52.625 the gaps that they blow on the line of scrimmage, 0:12:53.105 --> 0:12:56.025 the linebacker play, all of it, all of it, all 0:12:56.064 --> 0:12:59.145 of it, all of it. And I sit there and 0:12:59.184 --> 0:13:02.984 I'm like, but why would you go here when you're 0:13:03.025 --> 0:13:06.705 supposed to be here? And it makes logical, But at 0:13:06.745 --> 0:13:09.105 the same time, you have to take a step back 0:13:09.425 --> 0:13:13.385 and realize, Okay, this is no longer Vince will Fork 0:13:13.545 --> 0:13:17.344 or Richard Seymour or you know somebody of that ilk 0:13:17.625 --> 0:13:19.825 that is this great, all time great player. 0:13:19.905 --> 0:13:22.065 We know that there's a huge reason behind this, a 0:13:22.145 --> 0:13:27.425 catalyst for this. You know, malaise defensively with no Christian Barmore, 0:13:27.665 --> 0:13:31.065 no Juwan Bentley, yeah, and certainly no Jabril Peers. So 0:13:31.465 --> 0:13:33.505 because of those three, I mean, that's right up the gut. 0:13:33.545 --> 0:13:37.545 That's like missing catcher, second base, center field, and base right, 0:13:37.625 --> 0:13:39.745 You're not gonna be a good defensive team without being 0:13:39.785 --> 0:13:42.385 strong up the middle. It's the same thing in football, 0:13:42.385 --> 0:13:45.505 if not more so. Now, I don't know how you 0:13:45.545 --> 0:13:47.385 fix that. I don't know that you can fix that. 0:13:47.425 --> 0:13:49.785 But what that does tell me, though, is that when 0:13:49.824 --> 0:13:52.585 you missed the three key pieces of the puzzle that 0:13:52.665 --> 0:13:58.584 you can't do without, this team did not look very macro. Yes, right, 0:13:58.944 --> 0:13:59.944 you're not looking at see. 0:13:59.985 --> 0:14:00.464 I got that. 0:14:00.785 --> 0:14:03.545 I'm figuring this stuff out as we go. Is math, Yes, 0:14:03.625 --> 0:14:05.464 it is math, and it's I don't like algebra. And 0:14:05.545 --> 0:14:09.265 I'm you know, trigonometry. Oh it spooked me, you got 0:14:09.304 --> 0:14:13.025 all right, But I'm understanding the concept, right yeah. And 0:14:13.064 --> 0:14:15.225 I'm just like, how do you How do you not 0:14:16.905 --> 0:14:19.545 try to game plan for the present without an eye 0:14:19.585 --> 0:14:23.545 towards the future. That should be done every stinking season, 0:14:23.905 --> 0:14:29.145 every draft, every free agency, every everything. You always draft 0:14:29.385 --> 0:14:34.665 for today with an eye toward tomorrow. Have to and 0:14:34.705 --> 0:14:37.105 if you don't do that, that's, to me, that's a 0:14:37.145 --> 0:14:41.545 fireable offense. Now, I want you to go a little 0:14:41.545 --> 0:14:44.104 bit further though, into the micro as long as we're 0:14:44.105 --> 0:14:46.465 going on that route today, because I think we can 0:14:46.465 --> 0:14:49.305 clearly see that guys are not where they need to be. 0:14:49.425 --> 0:14:51.865 There's not bodies where they need to be, which is 0:14:51.865 --> 0:14:54.185 a big problem defensively right now. 0:14:53.905 --> 0:14:55.905 And just fundamentals and level. 0:14:56.665 --> 0:15:00.225 And we already have gone through many, many, many many 0:15:00.305 --> 0:15:03.985 times this year about the inadequacies of some of the 0:15:04.025 --> 0:15:08.025 play calling on offense, largely due to the personnel, but 0:15:08.545 --> 0:15:11.305 nevertheless there hasn't been a whole lot of creativity. We're 0:15:11.345 --> 0:15:13.585 seeing more of it because you've got somebody like Drake 0:15:14.065 --> 0:15:17.145 who can actually wing it and be athletic and do things. 0:15:17.145 --> 0:15:19.665 But to me, I'll go back to the offense for 0:15:19.705 --> 0:15:21.744 a second, that was embarrassing. He has three hundred and 0:15:21.785 --> 0:15:23.585 fifteen to the three hundred and thirty total yards or 0:15:23.585 --> 0:15:25.825 whatever it was last week. Yeah, I mean, come on, guys, 0:15:26.225 --> 0:15:27.065 help a fell out. 0:15:27.585 --> 0:15:30.985 Yeah, And look, I think it even starts to me 0:15:32.385 --> 0:15:35.105 it the coaching, And this is where I wanted to 0:15:35.145 --> 0:15:39.105 go next, because we're mentioning all these big picture things 0:15:39.105 --> 0:15:40.865 about the roster and the fact that they don't have 0:15:40.905 --> 0:15:43.385 the talent and I have to keep reminding myself of 0:15:43.425 --> 0:15:48.984 that and not rail on the coaching too hard because 0:15:48.985 --> 0:15:53.025 of that. But at the same time, I come out 0:15:53.065 --> 0:15:55.945 of this game, in particular on Sunday against the Titans, 0:15:55.945 --> 0:16:00.025 against a one win Titan team with their backup quarterback, 0:16:00.265 --> 0:16:03.465 like this is a very, very winnable game in Nashville 0:16:03.505 --> 0:16:06.745 on Sunday, and I come out of this game feeling 0:16:06.905 --> 0:16:11.785 like the coaching staff has not put these players in 0:16:11.865 --> 0:16:13.905 the best positions to win these games. 0:16:13.905 --> 0:16:15.705 I don't think they have either, And to me, that's 0:16:15.745 --> 0:16:18.865 that's what troubles me almost the most about this staff. 0:16:18.905 --> 0:16:21.065 Again looking at the micro point of view here is 0:16:21.105 --> 0:16:24.385 that we're in the business of winning games in the NFL. Right, 0:16:24.745 --> 0:16:28.665 I don't think has been put toward winning games. 0:16:28.905 --> 0:16:32.145 Yeah, No, I don't think that they're doing enough, you know. I. 0:16:32.305 --> 0:16:35.104 I'll just bring up my three critiques that I did 0:16:35.145 --> 0:16:39.905 the other day. The very first one starting Leyden Robinson 0:16:39.945 --> 0:16:43.825 at right guard, knowing that the matchup was Jeffrey Simmons 0:16:43.825 --> 0:16:46.864 there in the middle of the Titans defense, knowing that 0:16:46.865 --> 0:16:50.185 that was a mismatch and doing it anyway, and then 0:16:50.225 --> 0:16:52.625 giving the excuse after the game that we moved on 0:16:52.705 --> 0:16:55.265 when who back inside to match up against Jeffrey Simmons, 0:16:55.305 --> 0:16:57.705 who was always going to show up on Sunday. If 0:16:57.785 --> 0:16:58.985 I don't know if you know this, but he was 0:16:58.985 --> 0:17:00.545 gonna come to the game and he was gonna suit 0:17:00.625 --> 0:17:01.985 up for the Titans, and he was gonna. 0:17:01.785 --> 0:17:03.025 Play probably gonna play well too. 0:17:03.265 --> 0:17:07.585 So there's always players on the other side. And we 0:17:07.625 --> 0:17:10.345 talk about this a lot on Catch twenty two during 0:17:10.385 --> 0:17:13.825 the offseason. Tuesday players. Tuesday players are the guys that 0:17:13.865 --> 0:17:16.425 the coaching staff comes into the game plan meeting in 0:17:16.825 --> 0:17:21.305 on Tuesdays and says, we cannot let player X wreck 0:17:21.705 --> 0:17:25.585 this game. We cannot let player Y have one hundred 0:17:25.625 --> 0:17:29.505 and fifty yards and ten catches in three touchdowns. Right, 0:17:29.545 --> 0:17:33.625 we have to take away Jeffrey Simmons. We have to 0:17:33.625 --> 0:17:36.625 have a plan. What are how are we accounting for him? 0:17:36.984 --> 0:17:39.345 How who are we gonna who do we feel comfortable 0:17:39.425 --> 0:17:41.425 leaving at one on one? Who do we need to 0:17:41.465 --> 0:17:43.945 help to, How are we gonna slide to protection? How 0:17:43.945 --> 0:17:45.744 are we gonna double team him? How are we gonna 0:17:45.744 --> 0:17:49.305 take care of Jeffrey Simmons. They come into this game, 0:17:49.545 --> 0:17:52.624 they shake up the offensive line again for reasons I 0:17:52.665 --> 0:17:57.744 still don't know. And then Jeffrey Simmons has eight quarterback 0:17:57.825 --> 0:18:02.304 pressures and takes over the entire game and is single 0:18:02.345 --> 0:18:07.665 handedly responsible for multiple negative plays, including Drake May's first 0:18:07.665 --> 0:18:10.744 interception where he comes up through the middle and knocks 0:18:10.825 --> 0:18:13.465 him off his spot and causes the entire play to 0:18:13.665 --> 0:18:17.744 you know, kind of unravel from there. And we had 0:18:17.825 --> 0:18:21.265 no plan coming into the game for Jeffrey Simmons. Who's 0:18:21.305 --> 0:18:26.504 their best player on the roster, the offense, defense, special teams, 0:18:26.665 --> 0:18:31.385 that's their best player, you know. I I'll use another 0:18:31.545 --> 0:18:36.985 kind of cliche. Pregame. They always introduced the team, right 0:18:37.065 --> 0:18:40.505 the road team or the home team. Excuse me, when 0:18:40.545 --> 0:18:43.864 the Patriots are on the road, they do intros. You 0:18:43.984 --> 0:18:46.305 know who the best player on the team is because 0:18:46.345 --> 0:18:49.544 he goes last in the intros, just like when you 0:18:49.545 --> 0:18:51.945 go to a Celtics game, Jason Tatum is the last 0:18:52.025 --> 0:18:54.744 name that they call off the bench for the starting five. 0:18:55.105 --> 0:18:58.905 The last player that the Titans introduced was Jeffrey Simmons, 0:18:59.145 --> 0:19:01.145 and he comes running on the field. The crowd loves 0:19:01.225 --> 0:19:04.225 them right, and they're all into it. He cannot take 0:19:04.264 --> 0:19:07.025 over this game. He took over the game. Not even 0:19:07.105 --> 0:19:10.744 just took it over. He dominated the game, completely wrecked it. 0:19:11.025 --> 0:19:14.145 So that was number one. Number two is whatever their 0:19:14.185 --> 0:19:18.625 plan is before halftime, like their end of half. Situational 0:19:18.625 --> 0:19:23.305 football is horrendous. It's been horrendous all year long. The 0:19:23.345 --> 0:19:25.624 only time that they've actually done a good job with 0:19:25.705 --> 0:19:28.225 it is when Drake May threw a forty yard bomb 0:19:28.305 --> 0:19:32.185 to Kaishan Boudi against the tech, which, like I'll get 0:19:32.185 --> 0:19:34.625 to that, you know him in a second. Like that, 0:19:34.625 --> 0:19:38.465 that is not the coaching staff. That is a great 0:19:38.865 --> 0:19:43.465 young quarterback making a great play to a receiver making 0:19:43.504 --> 0:19:46.145 a great catch right like that. That's not any but 0:19:46.264 --> 0:19:48.304 no one deserves credit for that besides Drake May and 0:19:48.385 --> 0:19:53.145 Kishan Boudi. So that whole situation, you pick up two 0:19:53.425 --> 0:19:56.504 first downs or almost first downs with a you know, 0:19:56.545 --> 0:19:59.385 twenty four yards back to back or twenty three to 0:19:59.504 --> 0:20:02.905 Kendrick Bourne fourteen yards, nine yard completion, second and one 0:20:03.504 --> 0:20:08.145 run stuff, run, stuff, pun like that is just it's 0:20:08.185 --> 0:20:11.225 bad football. Call for what it is, it's bad football. 0:20:11.264 --> 0:20:16.584 So that's number two. Number three the fact that the 0:20:16.625 --> 0:20:19.785 head coach of the team did not know which way 0:20:19.825 --> 0:20:24.545 the wind was blowing to properly decide which way they 0:20:24.585 --> 0:20:29.665 wanted to kick the ball in overtime. And we can 0:20:29.705 --> 0:20:33.585 play the game all day long. This is just my opinion. 0:20:34.625 --> 0:20:37.784 I believe that if the wind is at Drake May's 0:20:37.825 --> 0:20:40.705 back when he rolls to his right and throws the 0:20:40.744 --> 0:20:45.145 deep post back left to Kaiseh on Boudi. It might 0:20:45.185 --> 0:20:48.744 be a walk off touchdown, but because he was throwing 0:20:48.785 --> 0:20:51.504 the ball into the wind, the ball hangs up. It 0:20:51.504 --> 0:20:54.105 gives a moni hooker a time to recover and he 0:20:54.185 --> 0:20:55.025 makes the interception. 0:20:55.065 --> 0:20:56.504 All right. Two of the things that we know, and 0:20:56.545 --> 0:20:58.185 I know this has been talked about by you guys 0:20:58.225 --> 0:21:00.505 this week, been talked about in the local media here 0:21:00.545 --> 0:21:04.025 this week. Number One, Drake's throw was a little off 0:21:04.025 --> 0:21:06.865 his back foot. Yep, okay, so he probably has a 0:21:06.945 --> 0:21:08.744 tendency to hang it up a little bit when you're 0:21:08.785 --> 0:21:10.905 throwing off your back foot and you're not driving into 0:21:10.945 --> 0:21:13.825 the throw. That's number one. Number two, we know that 0:21:14.545 --> 0:21:18.265 not Kaiseh on Boudi. It was Kendrick Bourn. Yeah, slipped 0:21:18.305 --> 0:21:21.024 and stumbled and failed to pull the safety over who 0:21:21.105 --> 0:21:23.585 ended up making the picks on that play. Because if 0:21:23.585 --> 0:21:26.185 he doesn't stumble on that route, the safety is still 0:21:26.185 --> 0:21:28.905 going to account for him. There's more of an opportunity 0:21:28.945 --> 0:21:30.024 for Booty to make a play on. 0:21:30.545 --> 0:21:33.465 Yeah, I think that that's potentially true. I look when 0:21:33.504 --> 0:21:35.784 I wrote about it in my film review, I'm not 0:21:35.865 --> 0:21:38.185 in a moni hooker's head, So I can't tell you 0:21:38.225 --> 0:21:41.185 if the Kendrick Bourne felling falling down mattered or not. 0:21:42.545 --> 0:21:44.825 Could it have been a factor on the play? Absolutely, 0:21:44.905 --> 0:21:46.425 it could have been a factor. Is it getting a 0:21:46.425 --> 0:21:49.744 little bit over played to me on like the Twitter 0:21:49.785 --> 0:21:51.945 machine and stuff like that, and this was this big 0:21:52.025 --> 0:21:54.264 factor in the play. I would say yes to that 0:21:54.345 --> 0:21:56.784 as well. Yeah, I'm somewhere in the middle on that one. 0:21:57.185 --> 0:22:01.465 But what I do know is that that throw is 0:22:01.545 --> 0:22:04.304 designed to go to the post right because they have 0:22:04.465 --> 0:22:07.865 three receivers kind of running from left to right to 0:22:08.025 --> 0:22:11.065 draw the safety. Like you were talking about, Drake's gonna 0:22:11.105 --> 0:22:14.225 roll out right and he's gonna throw back left. And 0:22:14.385 --> 0:22:17.744 over the years, you know, I was joking with Alex 0:22:17.785 --> 0:22:20.785 Barth about this over that has become the pro day 0:22:20.825 --> 0:22:23.425 throw is that I'm gonna roll all the way right, 0:22:24.185 --> 0:22:27.185 arms right, and I'm gonna whip it back left. And 0:22:27.744 --> 0:22:29.665 it started with Zach Wilson, who I know is not 0:22:29.705 --> 0:22:32.105 a great harrison, but it started with Zach Wilson. And 0:22:32.145 --> 0:22:36.865 now every single UH big time quarterback prospect coming out 0:22:36.865 --> 0:22:40.785 of the draft makes that exact throw at his pro day. 0:22:40.984 --> 0:22:43.825 And I watched down in North Carolina, you know, six 0:22:43.865 --> 0:22:46.905 months ago. Drake may make that exact throw at his 0:22:46.984 --> 0:22:50.545 pro day inside. So obviously no wind as a as 0:22:50.585 --> 0:22:52.945 a factor, and we all know that he's got a 0:22:52.945 --> 0:22:56.025 great arm. So I don't know if Kishon Boody would 0:22:56.025 --> 0:22:57.705 have made the catch. I don't know if you would 0:22:57.705 --> 0:22:59.865 have gotten tackled short of the goal line. I don't, 0:22:59.984 --> 0:23:02.984 you can't, you can't know. Uh, but it was a 0:23:03.225 --> 0:23:06.185 The wind was the biggest factor in my opinion. And 0:23:06.585 --> 0:23:11.385 that is a really really agreed unfortunate It's an agreed Yeah, 0:23:11.465 --> 0:23:12.105 it's egregious. 0:23:12.105 --> 0:23:15.865 Ara, It's gonna be more situational awareness and and I 0:23:15.905 --> 0:23:17.544 can even chalk that up a little bit of it. 0:23:17.665 --> 0:23:19.945 And I don't disagree with your points. I'm just saying 0:23:20.145 --> 0:23:22.945 I think we have to realize that we've gotten to 0:23:22.984 --> 0:23:25.785 the stage of the game now where there are certain 0:23:26.305 --> 0:23:29.585 quote unquote rookie mistakes that are gonna happen when you're 0:23:29.665 --> 0:23:31.504 learning your way through the sport for the first time 0:23:31.545 --> 0:23:34.024 as a head coach for the first time. But I 0:23:34.065 --> 0:23:38.425 would also tell you that after you know, situational occasions occur, 0:23:39.065 --> 0:23:41.105 and we've seen several of them. And I'm being kind 0:23:41.145 --> 0:23:45.065 by saying occasions. Yeah, somebody in that STAB's got to 0:23:45.105 --> 0:23:47.225 wake the hell up and say, hey, guys, what are 0:23:47.225 --> 0:23:51.665 we doing here? Right? Nobody's doing that. So it tells 0:23:51.705 --> 0:23:55.425 me one of two things. Either a nobody wants to 0:23:55.465 --> 0:23:57.985 do that, maybe they want to hang him out to dry, 0:23:58.065 --> 0:24:03.665 I don't know, or b they're just not smart enough 0:24:03.744 --> 0:24:05.945 to figure it out. Yeah, And I'm just like, that 0:24:05.984 --> 0:24:08.865 can't be. That can't be because I know these guys. 0:24:08.905 --> 0:24:11.185 I mean, I've told you I've known Alex van Pelt 0:24:11.225 --> 0:24:13.264 since he was in high school. I covered him when 0:24:13.305 --> 0:24:15.665 he was a high school quarterback. So I know he's 0:24:15.705 --> 0:24:20.545 extraordinarily capable. He's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. 0:24:20.825 --> 0:24:25.984 I think that there are decisions, my own opinion, there 0:24:26.025 --> 0:24:28.665 are decisions that are being made above his pay grade. 0:24:28.785 --> 0:24:31.425 Yeah, it could absolutely be the case. I just I 0:24:31.465 --> 0:24:33.744 look at those three things in particular, and there's probably 0:24:33.905 --> 0:24:36.145 a million other things that I could rant about as 0:24:36.185 --> 0:24:38.984 well about how this game was coached and handled, But 0:24:39.025 --> 0:24:41.985 you look at those three particular things. The first half 0:24:42.065 --> 0:24:45.865 offense really struggled in this game because of the offensive 0:24:45.905 --> 0:24:49.025 line in the past protection. They actually had a handful 0:24:49.105 --> 0:24:52.504 of plays that had some open receivers down the field, 0:24:52.585 --> 0:24:55.305 had the protection held up that Drake May maybe would 0:24:55.305 --> 0:24:58.265 have made more plays in the first half. You look 0:24:58.305 --> 0:25:00.504 at the film and it's there. You know, there's plays 0:25:00.545 --> 0:25:02.905 down the field that could be made that he's not 0:25:02.945 --> 0:25:06.345 having the opportunity because they shook up the offensive line 0:25:06.345 --> 0:25:08.865 and they started Laydon Robinson. So if you come into 0:25:08.905 --> 0:25:11.465 this game with the same starting five that you had 0:25:11.504 --> 0:25:14.064 the week before that did pretty well against the Jets, 0:25:14.345 --> 0:25:16.465 you know, do you have a better start to the 0:25:16.504 --> 0:25:20.104 game in the first quarter. That's definitely possible. If you 0:25:20.264 --> 0:25:23.024 put your foot down on the gas pedal at the 0:25:23.105 --> 0:25:26.185 end half of the first half and you don't prioritize 0:25:26.185 --> 0:25:29.385 a yard over field position and you know the two 0:25:29.425 --> 0:25:33.145 minute drill, well, then maybe you score points there. You 0:25:33.225 --> 0:25:35.425 get the ball to start the second half, you score 0:25:35.465 --> 0:25:38.345 points there, and now we're in a different ballgame. If 0:25:38.385 --> 0:25:40.585 you have the win at Drake May's back and overtime, 0:25:40.625 --> 0:25:42.745 maybe we have a different ball game. And all these 0:25:42.785 --> 0:25:46.665 things that add up to the coaching staff making it 0:25:46.744 --> 0:25:50.024 harder on the players to win games, and they already 0:25:50.025 --> 0:25:51.705 have enough of an uphill battle. 0:25:51.385 --> 0:25:54.784 And that's extraordinarily troubling. I mean, I think we all 0:25:54.865 --> 0:25:56.905 knew it was going to be a trying season. Yeah, 0:25:56.905 --> 0:26:00.064 we all knew going in that, you know, it was 0:26:00.145 --> 0:26:02.905 probably there was a very good possibility for things to 0:26:02.984 --> 0:26:06.305 get worse before they get better. Right, All we're looking 0:26:06.305 --> 0:26:07.585 for is a little light at the end of the 0:26:07.585 --> 0:26:09.824 tunnel that's not that train coming at you one thousand 0:26:09.825 --> 0:26:12.065 miles an hour, you know, and ready to run you over. 0:26:12.545 --> 0:26:16.585 And it just seems like the Patriots in certain instances 0:26:16.625 --> 0:26:19.065 can't get out of their own way on this one. 0:26:19.185 --> 0:26:22.345 And whether or not it's you know, having a mentor 0:26:22.545 --> 0:26:25.305 to help Gerrod with some of these decisions, because if 0:26:25.305 --> 0:26:27.584 there is one, I don't know who it is. I 0:26:27.625 --> 0:26:29.825 haven't seen any example of it. Somebody that could, you know, 0:26:29.984 --> 0:26:32.024 mage the game and say, hey, yo, guys, what are 0:26:32.025 --> 0:26:34.465 we doing here? We're against the wind? We want the 0:26:34.504 --> 0:26:37.665 win in the extra period, or guys, we want to 0:26:37.705 --> 0:26:39.744 go for two here and try to knock these you know, 0:26:39.984 --> 0:26:42.745 sons of bleeps out now because we're on the road 0:26:42.785 --> 0:26:45.304 against a team that's playing better and Jeffrey Simmons is 0:26:45.385 --> 0:26:47.785 crushing us, you know, which, you know, that's a whole 0:26:47.825 --> 0:26:50.145 nother matter, right, we're talking about football decisions here. A 0:26:50.225 --> 0:26:54.185 number three, Why are we not trying. If this is 0:26:54.264 --> 0:27:00.385 a developmental season, why are we not trying to win games? Yeah, 0:27:00.465 --> 0:27:04.505 don't you develop things when you try to win games too. 0:27:04.705 --> 0:27:07.624 I don't understand what the difference is. Why don't we say, well, 0:27:07.744 --> 0:27:10.145 our priority is not winning games because they're trying to 0:27:10.185 --> 0:27:13.705 develop guys. I find that to be mule muffins. That's 0:27:13.825 --> 0:27:17.104 that's There's just this that doesn't make any sense. And 0:27:17.145 --> 0:27:19.505 it seems to me like that's almost the answer. That's 0:27:19.545 --> 0:27:22.304 the that's the between the lines read that we're getting 0:27:23.465 --> 0:27:26.504 every time we're looking for explanations. And I don't blame, 0:27:26.945 --> 0:27:29.945 you know, the New England media, the Boston media especially, 0:27:30.185 --> 0:27:31.945 I don't blame them for being as tough as they've 0:27:31.945 --> 0:27:36.225 been because we've seen twenty to twenty five years of 0:27:36.264 --> 0:27:39.344 championship football. I think we know what championship level football 0:27:39.345 --> 0:27:41.825 looks like around here more so than almost any other 0:27:41.865 --> 0:27:45.185 fan base in America right now, and so when we 0:27:45.225 --> 0:27:48.825 see things that don't look the way they are. I'm 0:27:48.825 --> 0:27:51.064 also wondering if there's not really a little bit of 0:27:51.065 --> 0:27:55.465 a conflict with Gerard because we know what a really 0:27:55.705 --> 0:27:59.584 good guy he has been. He was a great player 0:27:59.585 --> 0:28:03.225 when he was here, and he's coached and learned as 0:28:03.225 --> 0:28:05.665 well as be coached by one of the best to 0:28:05.785 --> 0:28:09.905 ever have coached this game. I don't see any signs 0:28:09.905 --> 0:28:10.505 of that in him. 0:28:10.984 --> 0:28:14.345 Yeah, the two things with Gerard. The one thing is 0:28:14.345 --> 0:28:18.185 is that I just don't see a coaching staff or 0:28:18.185 --> 0:28:22.984 a head coach that has great control of the game situation. 0:28:23.825 --> 0:28:27.504 And I'm not a big game management kind of guy, 0:28:28.345 --> 0:28:32.624 but to me, it's a pass fail and you can't 0:28:32.665 --> 0:28:34.784 fail it, right, Like I don't necessarily need you to 0:28:34.905 --> 0:28:36.744 pass it with flying colors. 0:28:36.465 --> 0:28:38.825 Right, but as long as you don't commit an agregious 0:28:38.825 --> 0:28:41.065 air right well right, the problem is just they're making 0:28:41.065 --> 0:28:43.065 those errors, right, So there should be some kind of 0:28:43.145 --> 0:28:46.425 quote unquote you know qc E quality control guy in 0:28:46.505 --> 0:28:51.505 there helping their rookie head coach with these decisions. Yeah, 0:28:51.785 --> 0:28:54.705 you know, hey, don't forget draw, we score here, we 0:28:54.825 --> 0:28:56.185 go over one, we're going for two. What are we 0:28:56.265 --> 0:28:56.665 doing here? 0:28:57.345 --> 0:29:00.225 What's the control of the situation? And what's you know what, 0:29:00.225 --> 0:29:00.985 what's the plan? 0:29:01.385 --> 0:29:01.625 Right? 0:29:01.705 --> 0:29:04.465 What's what's the method? In madness? 0:29:04.625 --> 0:29:04.785 Yes? 0:29:05.385 --> 0:29:05.584 You know? 0:29:05.785 --> 0:29:07.705 And the other thing I would just say with Girod 0:29:07.705 --> 0:29:09.745 and I've kind of been on this with him too, 0:29:10.385 --> 0:29:14.025 is like, what kind of coach does he want to be? 0:29:14.025 --> 0:29:18.104 Because I always put coaches in two buckets. One is 0:29:18.905 --> 0:29:23.625 the strategist, right the the Kyle Shanahan's. I think Bill 0:29:23.745 --> 0:29:26.745 started out as a strategist and then kind of ended 0:29:26.825 --> 0:29:30.025 up morphing into the greatest ever and it did different things. Uh, 0:29:30.225 --> 0:29:32.825 but you know the Kyle Shanahans of Sean mcvay's like 0:29:32.865 --> 0:29:36.305 the guys, uh that are are winning with x'es and 0:29:36.345 --> 0:29:41.545 o's that are winning with strategy, football scheme and strategy. 0:29:42.065 --> 0:29:45.665 Then there's the culture builders. There's the Pete Carroll's, there's 0:29:45.705 --> 0:29:49.425 the Mike Tomlins, there's the Dan Campbell's, like the raw 0:29:49.545 --> 0:29:54.265 ra guys, the personality hires, And I'm not that's not 0:29:54.385 --> 0:29:56.785 my cup of tea as a higher but I'm not 0:29:56.905 --> 0:30:00.345 knocking those guys because those guys get those their guys 0:30:00.385 --> 0:30:03.425 to play their butts off every single week and they 0:30:03.425 --> 0:30:05.785 are a cohesive unit and they are a team and 0:30:05.825 --> 0:30:08.865 they stand for something and they're tough and like all 0:30:08.865 --> 0:30:11.665 those types of things. And that's why Pittsburgh is a 0:30:11.665 --> 0:30:15.145 great example, Like they never stink. They never stink because 0:30:15.185 --> 0:30:17.505 Tomlin always has that group ready to go. 0:30:18.025 --> 0:30:22.265 So Mike Tomlin, but at consistent. 0:30:22.025 --> 0:30:26.225 Right, And so when I look at Gerrod, we're nine 0:30:26.265 --> 0:30:28.905 weeks in and I don't know which bucket he belongs 0:30:28.945 --> 0:30:32.505 in when it comes to the culture stuff. I don't 0:30:32.545 --> 0:30:35.505 think that they've had great culture on this team this year. 0:30:35.785 --> 0:30:39.505 I think there has been well documented a number of 0:30:39.545 --> 0:30:42.025 different things that have gone wrong in the culture category 0:30:42.065 --> 0:30:44.665 on and off the field. And so I don't think 0:30:44.665 --> 0:30:47.785 that they that they have great culture necessarily on the team. 0:30:48.385 --> 0:30:51.785 And I don't think that he is this wiz kid 0:30:52.465 --> 0:30:56.105 defensive mind either, because they certainly don't put that on 0:30:56.225 --> 0:31:01.265 film in terms of their defensive strategy or scheme or 0:31:01.425 --> 0:31:03.505 x's and o's whatever you want to call it. So 0:31:04.465 --> 0:31:06.705 what is he as a coach? And I think right 0:31:06.745 --> 0:31:09.985 now what we're learning is that he's learning like he 0:31:10.065 --> 0:31:13.745 doesn't necessarily know which way he wants to coach and 0:31:13.825 --> 0:31:16.065 which way he wants to be and the team sort 0:31:16.065 --> 0:31:16.785 of looks likes to. 0:31:16.705 --> 0:31:19.265 Be a little oversight and a little guidance. Yeah, you know, 0:31:19.305 --> 0:31:20.785 I made this, I made this come into so many 0:31:20.825 --> 0:31:23.545 a couple of weeks ago, and they said, you know, right, 0:31:23.665 --> 0:31:30.505 beyond to something Gerardmeo needs what Bill Belichick head and 0:31:30.625 --> 0:31:31.385 Ernie Adams. 0:31:31.665 --> 0:31:34.945 Yeah, so they have Evan Rostein on staff. Understood, who's 0:31:34.945 --> 0:31:40.665 supposed to be that? But where Yeah, I know it's 0:31:40.705 --> 0:31:44.145 a fair point, but Evan Rostein is supposed to be 0:31:44.265 --> 0:31:49.065 the in game let just call what it is analytics guy, right, 0:31:49.145 --> 0:31:52.825 So the decisions forked down two point conversions at the 0:31:52.905 --> 0:31:55.385 end of games like the other day, like those are 0:31:55.425 --> 0:32:01.104 all supposedly being made in concert with Evan Rostein and 0:32:01.145 --> 0:32:03.985 the math right in the and the win probabilities and 0:32:04.025 --> 0:32:06.505 all that kind of stuff. For what it's worth, the 0:32:06.545 --> 0:32:09.225 win probability told him to kick the extra point if 0:32:09.305 --> 0:32:10.865 that's not your cup of tea. It's not your cup 0:32:10.865 --> 0:32:12.825 of tea. But the win probability told him to kick 0:32:12.865 --> 0:32:17.305 the extra point. The all the other the other Ernie 0:32:17.665 --> 0:32:20.985 stuff that you're talking about, I would assume is is 0:32:21.025 --> 0:32:25.745 Ben mcadoo's purview of you know, CONSIGLIERI, you know, the 0:32:25.785 --> 0:32:28.625 guy that you can uh sounding board that you can 0:32:28.705 --> 0:32:34.745 go into and discuss these things with. Yeah, you know, 0:32:35.065 --> 0:32:41.505 just consultant like that's supposed to be Ben McAdoo. I 0:32:41.505 --> 0:32:44.225 don't know how much of that. I don't know how 0:32:44.265 --> 0:32:47.225 much of that Ben mcadow is doing though, because a 0:32:47.225 --> 0:32:50.225 lot of what Ben McAdoo is doing is coaching the offense. 0:32:50.785 --> 0:32:52.465 He's helping out Alex Van pell. 0:32:52.465 --> 0:32:55.545 Well, and that's really, honestly, that's where Ben macadoo should be. 0:32:55.625 --> 0:32:57.905 I mean, that's right. I mean, it's his area of 0:32:57.905 --> 0:33:01.745 expert materia of expertise. So I mean, I don't mean 0:33:01.785 --> 0:33:04.225 I'm not trying to cast dispersions or throw stones at 0:33:04.425 --> 0:33:06.985 at Ben McAdoo or Evan Rosten anybody like that. I'm 0:33:07.025 --> 0:33:10.745 just saying that it's a parent help is required, and 0:33:10.865 --> 0:33:13.425 I don't think whoever is in the position to supply 0:33:13.505 --> 0:33:15.865 that help. If there is someone, and you're telling me 0:33:16.025 --> 0:33:20.185 there likely is, it's not resonating. Yeah, now does that 0:33:20.265 --> 0:33:23.785 mean you got to switch things up? Yeah, you kind 0:33:23.785 --> 0:33:24.624 of have to think about that. 0:33:24.865 --> 0:33:30.105 Yeah, it's tough. It's I I feel the team, you know, 0:33:30.265 --> 0:33:32.945 often takes on the identity of their head coach. It's 0:33:32.985 --> 0:33:36.465 an old, you know, cliche, and right now it feels 0:33:36.505 --> 0:33:41.104 like Girod is still figuring out who he is and 0:33:41.145 --> 0:33:43.985 what his identity is as a coach and how he 0:33:44.025 --> 0:33:46.905 wants to run the team, and the team feels that way. 0:33:46.945 --> 0:33:51.705 It feels discombobulated, and it feels unsure of itself. And 0:33:51.785 --> 0:33:53.825 I don't think that that's a coincidence. I think he 0:33:53.905 --> 0:33:58.465 is unsure of Am I here for vibes? Am I 0:33:58.545 --> 0:34:00.344 here to run the defense? Am I? 0:34:00.705 --> 0:34:00.945 You know? 0:34:01.065 --> 0:34:03.625 Am I trusting the analytics? Or am I trusting my 0:34:03.705 --> 0:34:07.145 gut when it comes to these last second situations? You know, 0:34:07.265 --> 0:34:10.425 Dan Campbell and Drod brings up Dan Campbell a lot 0:34:10.465 --> 0:34:14.305 as a comparison Dan Campbell. For if you want to 0:34:14.345 --> 0:34:17.385 call it as a detriment, you can do that. But 0:34:17.505 --> 0:34:22.305 Dan Campbell got to Detroit with the philosophy that they 0:34:22.345 --> 0:34:25.025 were going to go forward on fourth down, They're going 0:34:25.105 --> 0:34:27.025 to go for two at the end of games, and 0:34:27.065 --> 0:34:30.905 they were going to be an aggressive decision making team. 0:34:31.265 --> 0:34:34.505 His first year in Detroit, they lost a bunch of games, 0:34:34.825 --> 0:34:36.825 and a lot of the reasons were because of that. 0:34:36.865 --> 0:34:39.825 The NFC Championship Game last year, you could argue was 0:34:39.905 --> 0:34:43.944 because of that. But they started early and often his 0:34:44.185 --> 0:34:48.305 very first year, and they built a reputation in the 0:34:48.344 --> 0:34:51.145 culture of this is what we're going to be about. 0:34:51.585 --> 0:34:53.945 And now they're one of the best teams in the NFL. 0:34:54.065 --> 0:34:56.785 So if you want to be about that, then be 0:34:56.864 --> 0:34:59.585 about it. You can't you know, kind of middle it, 0:34:59.625 --> 0:35:01.425 which is what I feel like they're doing right now. 0:35:01.785 --> 0:35:03.745 I also want to take this a little bit of 0:35:03.785 --> 0:35:06.424 different direction today as well, because while so much of 0:35:06.425 --> 0:35:10.745 the discussion has been about the offense and you know, 0:35:11.225 --> 0:35:13.545 and Drake and things, one of those lines when we 0:35:13.545 --> 0:35:16.225 were talking about defense and the fact that this team 0:35:16.705 --> 0:35:19.864 is sorely lacking up the middle and doesn't have the 0:35:20.185 --> 0:35:23.065 replaceable depth to be able to, you know, cure a 0:35:23.105 --> 0:35:25.305 lot of the eels that this team has right now? 0:35:25.545 --> 0:35:28.385 How much of this is his fair game on DeMarcus 0:35:28.465 --> 0:35:32.145 Covington and his game that seems to have you know, 0:35:32.864 --> 0:35:35.305 sometimes the players in the right spots not making place. 0:35:35.625 --> 0:35:37.785 Sometimes the players are not in the right spots and 0:35:37.825 --> 0:35:39.305 there's nobody there to make plays. 0:35:39.585 --> 0:35:42.825 Yeah, it's definitely fair. 0:35:43.384 --> 0:35:43.585 You know. 0:35:43.625 --> 0:35:47.344 Look, I I've I've pointed the finger at Covington at 0:35:47.384 --> 0:35:50.865 times for a couple of reasons. I'd say the number 0:35:50.864 --> 0:35:57.065 one thing to me is that third down and third 0:35:57.145 --> 0:36:01.225 down pressure is like, to me, like on the on 0:36:01.305 --> 0:36:05.545 the defensive coordinator, Like that's really where a defensive coordinator 0:36:05.625 --> 0:36:11.025 makes his money. Yes, from a strategic standpoint. 0:36:09.945 --> 0:36:12.625 On the quarterback getting off the field on the third right. 0:36:12.545 --> 0:36:15.065 You know, what is your scheme? What what are you 0:36:15.225 --> 0:36:19.345 taking away? What are you how are you dialing up pressure? 0:36:19.705 --> 0:36:22.305 You know, that's when you really get first and second 0:36:22.344 --> 0:36:26.944 down across the league is pretty it's all the same, right, 0:36:26.945 --> 0:36:29.825 Like everybody's kind of running the same sort of stuff 0:36:30.305 --> 0:36:33.944 on first and second down. Third down is really where 0:36:33.985 --> 0:36:37.305 you make your money. And right now the Patriots are 0:36:37.305 --> 0:36:39.985 bottom half of the league and third down their bottom 0:36:40.025 --> 0:36:42.065 half of the league in pressure rate. They're bottom half 0:36:42.065 --> 0:36:44.185 of the league in unblocked pressure rates. So they're not 0:36:44.265 --> 0:36:48.105 scheming up guys to get to them to the quarterback either. 0:36:48.265 --> 0:36:52.505 And and that to me is on the defensive coordinator. 0:36:52.545 --> 0:36:55.344 You know, just looking at third and five and overtime 0:36:55.945 --> 0:36:59.505 last week, and you run a scheme the press, the 0:36:59.585 --> 0:37:03.344 rush doesn't get home. You know, christianan Zalez is one 0:37:03.384 --> 0:37:05.945 on one with Calvin Ridley, A get a really good receiver. 0:37:06.105 --> 0:37:08.464 Yeah that's your number one corner and you hope for 0:37:08.625 --> 0:37:15.385 play there. But it was not exactly a awesome down 0:37:15.665 --> 0:37:18.745 of football. And you can't get off the field. You 0:37:18.785 --> 0:37:22.665 give up a field goal blouses, right Like, if you 0:37:22.705 --> 0:37:25.665 get off the field there on third and five and overtime, 0:37:26.185 --> 0:37:28.424 and now you don't you don't have you know, need 0:37:28.425 --> 0:37:31.585 the field goal or whatever. Who knows what happens in 0:37:32.065 --> 0:37:35.145 that sort of game. So, uh, it just those are 0:37:35.185 --> 0:37:37.505 the things I'd look at for Covington, and I do 0:37:37.625 --> 0:37:40.305 look a little bit at the fundamentals up front. You know, 0:37:40.425 --> 0:37:44.505 pad level technique, can usage like that sort of stuff 0:37:44.625 --> 0:37:48.344 is all part of run defense, you know, mentality, you know, 0:37:48.505 --> 0:37:49.585 all that is part of it. 0:37:49.665 --> 0:37:51.585 You know. And while I think we've seen some you know, 0:37:51.625 --> 0:37:53.545 let's let's just you know, kind of run the gamut 0:37:53.585 --> 0:37:55.825 here since we started on this one. This is meant 0:37:55.825 --> 0:37:58.864 to be you know, I intended this actually to be 0:37:59.145 --> 0:38:02.025 you know, the positives from Tennessee. It turns out that 0:38:02.105 --> 0:38:07.064 this is the way it goes here. But I think, 0:38:07.105 --> 0:38:11.464 well that largely we've seen some successes special teams wise, yep, 0:38:11.505 --> 0:38:14.065 I think we've seen that there's a there's a potential 0:38:14.225 --> 0:38:16.905 you know, all star player and special teams and Brendan 0:38:16.945 --> 0:38:19.705 Scouler out there. Maybe he can fulfill that that mental 0:38:19.745 --> 0:38:22.345 that you know, Slate played so well for so many years. 0:38:22.465 --> 0:38:25.265 Pro Bowl calendar, yeah, pro Bowl caliber guy, right, yep. 0:38:25.344 --> 0:38:27.864 There aren't many else out there, but at least he's there. 0:38:28.585 --> 0:38:31.944 Let me. Also, let's talk about you know, Jones returning punch. 0:38:32.025 --> 0:38:35.345 I mean, my goodness, now, Mark, Yeah, the guy is 0:38:35.344 --> 0:38:37.104 is he knows how to do it. He is giving 0:38:37.145 --> 0:38:40.265 his team a chance. There's two right there that I'd 0:38:40.265 --> 0:38:43.065 be ready to say, Okay, find me more like those guys. 0:38:43.384 --> 0:38:47.344 So there are some successes that are out there. But 0:38:47.545 --> 0:38:49.464 how now do you bleed that over to the rest 0:38:49.505 --> 0:38:49.944 of the team. 0:38:50.185 --> 0:38:53.545 Yeah, Schooler has been fantastic. And I know that special 0:38:53.585 --> 0:38:55.384 teams some people are all their eyes at it. But 0:38:55.864 --> 0:38:58.345 I just I know, as an example, I've. 0:38:58.185 --> 0:39:00.585 Seen what a different special teams can make over the years. 0:39:00.745 --> 0:39:03.745 Sure, and it's it's sort of like to me and 0:39:04.025 --> 0:39:05.745 I think that you're odd too. It's kind of like 0:39:05.785 --> 0:39:08.745 an identity thing of your football team. Like eight teams 0:39:08.785 --> 0:39:11.425 that cover kicks and cover them well are like tough, 0:39:11.905 --> 0:39:13.705 hard noteses football team. 0:39:13.745 --> 0:39:17.665 And he's right about that. Yeah, that that's an attitude thing, okay, 0:39:17.905 --> 0:39:19.904 And maybe that could be the way that you could 0:39:19.905 --> 0:39:23.345 go about, you know, setting your your your your identification, 0:39:23.545 --> 0:39:25.864 you know the type of team that you are, you know, 0:39:26.745 --> 0:39:29.424 But I just don't see them following up enough on it. 0:39:29.585 --> 0:39:31.864 And I'm just like, why does that there's not a 0:39:31.905 --> 0:39:32.864 trickle down here. 0:39:33.145 --> 0:39:33.425 Yeah. 0:39:33.585 --> 0:39:38.145 Yeah, It's almost like everybody is their own separate, complete department. Yeah, okay, 0:39:38.344 --> 0:39:40.464 time for women's lingerie out on the fields. You know, 0:39:40.825 --> 0:39:45.305 I'm just like, what are we doing here? There's no continuity? Yeah, 0:39:45.505 --> 0:39:48.865 and I'm just like that that belongs to the coach. Yeah. 0:39:48.945 --> 0:39:52.424 So one of my favorite plays in this game that 0:39:52.625 --> 0:39:56.904 obviously gets washed away because they lost the game. To 0:39:57.025 --> 0:40:02.344 start overtime, they short. They kicked the short kickoff to 0:40:02.505 --> 0:40:05.545 force the Titans to return the kickoff out of the 0:40:05.625 --> 0:40:10.344 end zone, and Brennan's schooler at over twenty miles an hour, 0:40:10.864 --> 0:40:15.065 comes flying in and clocks the returner at the twenty 0:40:15.105 --> 0:40:18.585 yard line, just thud sticks them right at the. 0:40:18.545 --> 0:40:19.625 Twenty yard line. 0:40:19.905 --> 0:40:22.985 And I said to myself at the time, I was like, 0:40:23.905 --> 0:40:26.825 holy crap, is that like he was like a freaking 0:40:27.105 --> 0:40:31.464 zero to sixty on that phot Yeah, and you saw it. 0:40:31.585 --> 0:40:34.025 You saw the energy that you're talking about, and then 0:40:34.065 --> 0:40:37.904 it just doesn't carry over into the defense drive. But 0:40:38.344 --> 0:40:41.185 that to me was like, we have an opportunity here 0:40:41.225 --> 0:40:45.185 to steal some yards. And they actually fumbled a punt 0:40:45.225 --> 0:40:47.145 earlier in the game, so maybe they were thinking we 0:40:47.185 --> 0:40:49.665 actually have an opportunity to turn them over. So we're 0:40:49.665 --> 0:40:54.305 gonna put Schooler right on on where we're gonna drop 0:40:54.344 --> 0:40:56.825 the ball. Then Joey Slide is gonna kick the ball 0:40:56.905 --> 0:41:00.425 right into Schoolers, you know vision, and he's just gonna 0:41:00.465 --> 0:41:03.265 take off and he's gonna make the stick. And that 0:41:03.425 --> 0:41:05.424 was a great play. And I would also just say 0:41:05.505 --> 0:41:09.305 underrated play in this game Marcus Jones's twenty five yard 0:41:09.305 --> 0:41:12.145 return that set them up at the fifty yard line 0:41:12.145 --> 0:41:15.024 on the game tying drive at the end of the game. 0:41:15.065 --> 0:41:17.185 If he doesn't return that to the fifties. 0:41:17.105 --> 0:41:19.265 Probably, Yeah, you gotta have the shorter field for the 0:41:19.344 --> 0:41:20.745 offense that struggles to get yards. 0:41:20.745 --> 0:41:24.545 So that I thought it was a nice compliment. Complimentary football. 0:41:24.585 --> 0:41:28.225 That's complimentary football. You always heard that term, yep, whether 0:41:28.225 --> 0:41:29.864 it was Bill or anybody else, you always heard the 0:41:29.945 --> 0:41:33.504 term complimentary football as the way you develop winning teams. Well, 0:41:33.545 --> 0:41:35.785 they played it a little bit there. That's what complimentary 0:41:35.785 --> 0:41:38.025 football is, and that's really getting at the heart of 0:41:38.025 --> 0:41:39.785 what it is that I feel like is the biggest 0:41:39.785 --> 0:41:43.024 problem with this team. There's no complimentary anything out there. 0:41:43.344 --> 0:41:46.545 One squad is not helping the other, and the defense 0:41:46.585 --> 0:41:49.065 certainly didn't help things this last week because it couldn't 0:41:49.065 --> 0:41:50.225 get off the flip and field. 0:41:50.425 --> 0:41:53.185 Yeah, yeah, I And I just wanted to You said 0:41:53.185 --> 0:41:55.505 something earlier about Drake may that that I liked, and 0:41:55.665 --> 0:41:59.384 I wanted to follow up on. You mentioned, you know, 0:41:59.545 --> 0:42:04.025 his compete in his energy, uh, and the plays that 0:42:04.065 --> 0:42:08.185 he's making. And I talked to Devon Gotcha after the game, 0:42:08.425 --> 0:42:09.984 and that's when he gave me the quote that he's 0:42:10.065 --> 0:42:11.065 Josh Allen, which. 0:42:12.145 --> 0:42:12.905 And I'm stealing. 0:42:13.065 --> 0:42:19.904 Yeah, And I listened to Godshad and not to put 0:42:19.945 --> 0:42:22.105 words in his mouth, but he was basically saying, we 0:42:22.105 --> 0:42:25.504 have a franchise quarterback here. I'm straight and I hear 0:42:25.545 --> 0:42:29.265 him say that, and I'll I again not to put 0:42:29.265 --> 0:42:31.464 words in his mouth, but but I wonder if he's 0:42:31.505 --> 0:42:33.904 sort of trying to tell the rest of the locker 0:42:34.025 --> 0:42:37.145 room like, hey, guys, let's go yeah, like this kid 0:42:37.344 --> 0:42:40.625 can play. Yeah, you know, let's not mess around with 0:42:40.705 --> 0:42:43.944 this and let's get behind. And I said this, you know, 0:42:43.985 --> 0:42:47.024 a month ago or whatever when they they put him 0:42:47.025 --> 0:42:48.945 in there, and you know, when they first made the 0:42:48.985 --> 0:42:52.584 move to start him, and it's not fair to ask 0:42:52.625 --> 0:42:55.745 a twenty two year old to carry a football team 0:42:55.864 --> 0:42:58.545 and to be this leader. But look, if I was 0:42:58.545 --> 0:43:02.145 playing on this team and I saw what we had, 0:43:02.625 --> 0:43:04.904 I'd be getting in line right like I'd be right 0:43:04.905 --> 0:43:07.384 behind him. And I just I do hope that some 0:43:07.465 --> 0:43:09.585 of that starts to happen. So when we talk about, 0:43:09.745 --> 0:43:11.225 you know, what do we expect for the end of 0:43:11.225 --> 0:43:13.344 the year and the rest of the season, that's what 0:43:13.425 --> 0:43:16.665 I expect. I expect Drake may to start to rally 0:43:16.745 --> 0:43:18.944 the troops a little bit. And you have guys all 0:43:18.985 --> 0:43:21.024 of a sudden that are saying, you know, I'm gonna 0:43:21.065 --> 0:43:22.745 do a little bit extra, and I'm gonna do a 0:43:22.785 --> 0:43:25.185 little bit more during the week, and you know, I'm 0:43:25.185 --> 0:43:26.985 going to run that route a little bit harder on 0:43:27.065 --> 0:43:29.545 Sunday because Drake's gonna get me the ball if I'm open. 0:43:29.625 --> 0:43:32.825 You know that those sort of things, because it just 0:43:33.105 --> 0:43:36.265 blows my mind, you know, as somebody that played sports 0:43:36.305 --> 0:43:38.785 not well and as you know, I know you played 0:43:38.785 --> 0:43:41.825 sports as well, maybe not well too, but it blows 0:43:41.825 --> 0:43:45.505 my mind when you have a me too, that was 0:43:45.505 --> 0:43:48.265 the one thing I was good at. It blows my 0:43:48.305 --> 0:43:53.105 mind that you have a guy that talented in that gifted, Like, 0:43:53.145 --> 0:43:56.145 in my head, that's an automatic, like this is our 0:43:56.225 --> 0:43:57.945 leader and this is the guy that you know, I 0:43:57.985 --> 0:44:00.545 can play for this guy. So I'm hoping that we 0:44:00.545 --> 0:44:03.065 we started to see some of that because Drake is 0:44:03.384 --> 0:44:06.665 playing great football for the most part, like lights out stuff. 0:44:06.785 --> 0:44:11.024 Yeah, absolutely lights out stuff, all right, So I want 0:44:11.065 --> 0:44:12.745 to I'm gonna try to spin this forward just a 0:44:12.785 --> 0:44:14.904 little bit more because I mean, we can sit here 0:44:14.905 --> 0:44:16.904 and we can surmise about all the bad stuff that's 0:44:16.945 --> 0:44:20.185 going on, uh at nauseam. And we still got seven 0:44:20.185 --> 0:44:22.185 weeks left to go in the regular season, so there's 0:44:22.505 --> 0:44:26.864 I mean, bad can get worse. At the same time, 0:44:27.384 --> 0:44:30.105 the opportunity that presents itself this week against the Chicago 0:44:30.185 --> 0:44:35.945 Bears team that fell flat on its face, yeah, collective 0:44:35.945 --> 0:44:39.984 face last week and an inexplicable loss to Arizona they 0:44:40.025 --> 0:44:43.384 only scored nine points. It's a unique opportunity to see 0:44:43.384 --> 0:44:46.464 two of the top three draft picks from last year 0:44:46.545 --> 0:44:48.785 go at each other, even though they won't play against 0:44:48.864 --> 0:44:52.425 each other. But Caleb Williams Drake May one versus three 0:44:53.465 --> 0:44:55.384 and you know, and I was kind of curious to 0:44:55.384 --> 0:45:02.185 know when when Drake spoke earlier today that he recognizes that. Yeah, 0:45:02.225 --> 0:45:03.665 And so it's kind of like, yeah, I want to 0:45:03.665 --> 0:45:05.384 be able to show everybody what I can do. So 0:45:05.705 --> 0:45:07.545 it looks to me like he's going to be sufficiently 0:45:07.585 --> 0:45:11.385 motivated to guad and play this and again, like last 0:45:11.425 --> 0:45:14.625 week in Tennessee, this is a unique opportunity for the 0:45:14.625 --> 0:45:17.905 Patriots to actually, you know what, damn, let's show something. 0:45:18.225 --> 0:45:20.944 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Look, I think a lot of the 0:45:20.985 --> 0:45:24.905 things that we're saying on the positive side about Drake 0:45:25.185 --> 0:45:28.225 to be honest, that a lot of people in Chicago 0:45:28.265 --> 0:45:31.544 are worried about what's going on with Caleb Williams. That 0:45:31.665 --> 0:45:38.305 offense has a really really underperformed this year with Caleb. 0:45:38.505 --> 0:45:41.584 You know, they go out they make the DJ More 0:45:41.625 --> 0:45:43.665 trade a couple of years ago with the Bryce Young 0:45:43.785 --> 0:45:46.024 you know, first overall pick swap and all that kind 0:45:46.025 --> 0:45:48.504 of stuff and mores in that trade. They go out 0:45:48.545 --> 0:45:51.665 and trade for Keenan Allen. They draft Roma Dunza in 0:45:51.705 --> 0:45:54.464 the first round with their original first round pick. You know, 0:45:54.505 --> 0:45:57.585 they make all these moves to really load up this 0:45:57.785 --> 0:46:02.265 roster around Caleb Williams signed DeAndre Swift and free agency. 0:46:02.905 --> 0:46:05.665 Cole Kmett is a pretty good tight end. He's already there. 0:46:05.985 --> 0:46:09.745 So they have like kind of five guys around Caleb 0:46:09.825 --> 0:46:13.984 that are all capable NFL players, much better supporting cast 0:46:14.025 --> 0:46:17.185 than what Drake May walks out there with every single Sunday, 0:46:17.745 --> 0:46:21.905 and they're twenty seventh in DVOA. Caleb is twenty seventh 0:46:22.065 --> 0:46:26.585 in QBR right now. Caleb Williams' is QBR is the 0:46:26.625 --> 0:46:30.225 same as Jacoby Bursetts was wow with the Patriots, So 0:46:30.465 --> 0:46:35.825 they are not performing very well on offense relative to expectations. 0:46:36.185 --> 0:46:39.585 His deep ball, Caleb's deep ball has really been terrible. 0:46:39.864 --> 0:46:42.864 He's one of the worst statistically, one of the worst 0:46:42.905 --> 0:46:45.705 deep ball throwers in the NFL this season, which is 0:46:45.745 --> 0:46:48.464 not what he was advertised as. He was advertised as 0:46:48.465 --> 0:46:52.665 a bombs away, big play machine coming out of US Seed, 0:46:52.705 --> 0:46:55.225 and that's certainly what he was in college. So Shane 0:46:55.265 --> 0:46:59.145 Walder and their offensive coordinators taking some heat, Caleb's taking 0:46:59.145 --> 0:47:03.585 some heat. So they right now are in an interesting spot. 0:47:03.705 --> 0:47:05.985 Like their records, not as bad as the Patriots. Obviously 0:47:05.985 --> 0:47:08.865 they're favored in this game on Sunday, but I wouldn't 0:47:08.905 --> 0:47:14.745 say that it's been gangbusters there in Chicago. Offensively, certainly 0:47:14.785 --> 0:47:19.344 now defensively, really good test I think for Drake May 0:47:19.665 --> 0:47:23.145 against a really really good Bears pass defense, one of 0:47:23.145 --> 0:47:26.145 the better pass defenses in the league, and they're very, 0:47:26.225 --> 0:47:29.265 very vulnerable or leaky against the run. So if the 0:47:29.265 --> 0:47:31.825 Patriots can actually get the run game going, it's probably 0:47:31.825 --> 0:47:35.105 gonna be this week. But against the pass, they've been 0:47:35.105 --> 0:47:38.625 pretty stingy in Chicago in that respect, so it'll be 0:47:38.665 --> 0:47:41.305 a nice little test for him against a pretty good defense. 0:47:41.625 --> 0:47:45.985 Andrew Billings out, Jakwan Brisker out according to the latest 0:47:46.025 --> 0:47:49.785 Chicago reports as well, So it's gonna be an opportunity there. 0:47:49.825 --> 0:47:51.745 I think, yeah, a couple guys that will be out. 0:47:51.785 --> 0:47:55.665 I don't know about Montes's sweats status. He was didn't 0:47:55.825 --> 0:47:58.665 play in the game last week, so we'll see. He's 0:47:58.705 --> 0:48:01.305 their best pass rusher on the edge, so if he 0:48:01.344 --> 0:48:05.424 doesn't play, that's obviously big. But statistically they've been very 0:48:05.545 --> 0:48:08.904 very good against the pass this year in Chicago when 0:48:08.945 --> 0:48:11.825 they rush the passer extremely well to you know, top 0:48:11.905 --> 0:48:15.145 ten pressure raid win rate, you know all those fancy 0:48:15.185 --> 0:48:19.825 metrics that measure pass rush. So they're a good defense. Now, 0:48:20.065 --> 0:48:23.025 where they're vulnerable is where the Patriots have struggled, and 0:48:23.105 --> 0:48:25.985 that's running the football. You can run on them. The 0:48:26.025 --> 0:48:29.305 Cardinals ran for two hundred and thirteen yards last week 0:48:29.305 --> 0:48:31.344 and only six of them came from Kyler Murray. So 0:48:31.384 --> 0:48:33.705 it wasn't like Kyler just running around and you know 0:48:34.105 --> 0:48:36.225 we saw from Drake. Yeah, like we've sign from Drake. 0:48:36.625 --> 0:48:40.345 This is that was conventional traditional run game. We're gonna 0:48:40.344 --> 0:48:42.385 come right at you with James Connor and we're. 0:48:42.225 --> 0:48:45.344 Gonna run Andre Stevenson, I'm like licking my chops if 0:48:45.344 --> 0:48:46.984 you can get the run block and get the run 0:48:46.985 --> 0:48:47.545 blocking right. 0:48:47.665 --> 0:48:51.265 Yeah, So they are a team that's vulnerable there. They 0:48:51.625 --> 0:48:54.544 struggle against downhill concepts, you know, pull a guard through 0:48:54.665 --> 0:48:58.064 and get downhill on them. They've struggled to get at 0:48:58.105 --> 0:49:02.185 fifty three yard touchdown on the ground last week to Arizona, 0:49:02.265 --> 0:49:04.825 and Connor was was really good in the game, averaged 0:49:04.864 --> 0:49:08.464 over five yards carry. So they have a vulnerability there. 0:49:08.545 --> 0:49:12.265 What do your thought some Matt Eberflus what I mean, clearly, 0:49:12.305 --> 0:49:14.384 he's been up and down almost like a you know, 0:49:14.505 --> 0:49:17.864 like a roller coaster internm of his career. The one 0:49:17.864 --> 0:49:20.904 thing I noticed after last week's loss is that they're 0:49:20.945 --> 0:49:23.464 just three and eighteen on the road. Yeah, so he's 0:49:23.545 --> 0:49:27.864 completely it's a completely different team home versus road. So 0:49:27.905 --> 0:49:30.064 this is to their advantage by playing at home this week. 0:49:30.265 --> 0:49:33.145 Yeah, that's a good one. I didn't know that. Yeah, 0:49:33.185 --> 0:49:36.225 they with eber Flus. I think there's some of the 0:49:36.305 --> 0:49:39.105 things that are being said about him are similar in 0:49:39.145 --> 0:49:42.305 some respects that you're odd and that you know he's 0:49:42.344 --> 0:49:45.145 a good defensive mind, but they don't know if he's 0:49:45.185 --> 0:49:47.864 a good head coach right in terms of game management 0:49:47.985 --> 0:49:51.504 and game plan and uh, you know, situational football and 0:49:51.585 --> 0:49:53.665 like all this kind of stuff. Like when you're the 0:49:53.665 --> 0:49:55.424 head coach of the team and you give up a 0:49:55.465 --> 0:49:57.344 hail mary on the last play of the game to 0:49:57.425 --> 0:50:00.424 lose the game. As much as you can blame Tyree Stevenson, 0:50:00.585 --> 0:50:03.825 like that comes down to coaching and knowing the situation. 0:50:04.585 --> 0:50:09.145 Yeah, yes, Stevenson's taunting before well the game was going 0:50:09.185 --> 0:50:11.225 on all the snaps. Yeah, that's I mean to me, 0:50:11.305 --> 0:50:14.145 that's just karma playing off right there. Yeah you know, Yeah, 0:50:14.185 --> 0:50:17.145 but that's that's an egregious error in oversight from the 0:50:17.185 --> 0:50:19.344 coaching staff to not have that be prepared for that. 0:50:19.545 --> 0:50:21.425 Yeah, and not to mention, you know, the play before 0:50:21.465 --> 0:50:24.145 the hall mary. They set up like it's gonna be 0:50:24.185 --> 0:50:26.544 a hail mary before the hell Mary, and they give 0:50:26.625 --> 0:50:28.785 up like a free ten yards, you know, so that 0:50:28.825 --> 0:50:31.024 they didn't get a little closer so that Daniels can 0:50:31.065 --> 0:50:33.384 make the throw at the end of the game. So 0:50:33.425 --> 0:50:37.424 their situational football, their game plan, like all that kind 0:50:37.465 --> 0:50:39.544 of stuff has sort of come into question with them. 0:50:40.025 --> 0:50:43.265 But defensively, I do think he runs a pretty sound 0:50:43.745 --> 0:50:45.625 unit on that side of the ball, and he is 0:50:45.665 --> 0:50:49.344 the primary guy running that defense. But like I said, 0:50:49.425 --> 0:50:52.665 you know, Walder and their offensive coordinator has been catching 0:50:52.665 --> 0:50:55.344 some heat for the things that they're doing offensively. 0:50:55.545 --> 0:50:57.545 Then I guess the last one on the Bears that 0:50:57.625 --> 0:51:00.785 whatever you hear, is in Caleb Williams. Do they have 0:51:00.825 --> 0:51:01.185 their guy? 0:51:02.705 --> 0:51:06.384 I'm a Caleb fan, you know. Look, I full disclosure. 0:51:06.425 --> 0:51:08.705 I had him as the consensus number one overall pick, 0:51:08.785 --> 0:51:11.025 like everybody else did, right, So I really felt like 0:51:11.105 --> 0:51:13.864 going into the draft it was Caleb one to one, 0:51:14.065 --> 0:51:16.705 no questions asked, and then I could be swayed. 0:51:16.705 --> 0:51:19.944 What does he do that Daniels does not? 0:51:20.864 --> 0:51:24.825 I would say that, you know, in college Caleb was 0:51:24.864 --> 0:51:29.864 a more capable field reader and passer than Jayden Daniels was. 0:51:30.745 --> 0:51:34.705 But I would, you know, in a stronger arm, certainly 0:51:34.864 --> 0:51:39.105 stronger off platform things of that nature as well. But 0:51:39.344 --> 0:51:43.185 what Caleb has struggled with, in my opinion just watching 0:51:43.185 --> 0:51:46.305 his film from the last couple of weeks, it is 0:51:46.344 --> 0:51:50.505 really like timing and anticipation within this framework of the scheme. 0:51:51.065 --> 0:51:53.705 So you see him like late to things or holding 0:51:53.745 --> 0:51:56.185 the ball, and you know, a lot of the time 0:51:56.745 --> 0:52:00.625 when you're late to throws like that is actually what's 0:52:00.665 --> 0:52:03.665 to blame for the poor accuracy and not actually control 0:52:03.705 --> 0:52:06.145 of the football, Like I actually think he throws with 0:52:06.225 --> 0:52:09.785 pretty good control of the football and ball placement when 0:52:09.825 --> 0:52:12.665 he's on time. But when you're a beat late to 0:52:12.785 --> 0:52:16.465 a crossing route or you're a bit behind a deep 0:52:16.505 --> 0:52:18.945 ball or something like that, that's when you start to 0:52:18.985 --> 0:52:21.025 see the balls behind the receiver of the ball is 0:52:21.105 --> 0:52:23.305 under throw and the ball, you know, so on and 0:52:23.305 --> 0:52:26.585 so forth. So sometimes what we look at is saying, oh, 0:52:26.625 --> 0:52:29.745 he just missed the throw is actually more based off 0:52:29.785 --> 0:52:32.545 of like the timing and the anticipation of the play. 0:52:32.585 --> 0:52:35.464 And you know where Waldron's come into this, as you know, 0:52:35.505 --> 0:52:39.225 some of his route combinations are a little bit conflicting 0:52:39.305 --> 0:52:41.545 for the quarterback of like where am I supposed to 0:52:41.585 --> 0:52:44.705 go with the football here? I actually watch their offense 0:52:44.745 --> 0:52:49.384 and see a lot of similar issues as what the 0:52:49.425 --> 0:52:53.905 Patriots offense has. And they're both West coast you know systems, 0:52:53.945 --> 0:52:57.424 they're both West Coast guys, and they have a lot 0:52:57.465 --> 0:53:01.305 of the same sort of rudimentary route concepts and like 0:53:01.384 --> 0:53:04.745 not a whole great spacing and like timing and rhythm 0:53:04.785 --> 0:53:07.425 within the passing game and all that kind of stuff. 0:53:07.465 --> 0:53:11.665 So I think that Caleb's really talented. There's certain things 0:53:11.705 --> 0:53:14.625 that he does really well. I think that he is 0:53:14.905 --> 0:53:18.225 amazing off script. You know, you get him in playground 0:53:18.225 --> 0:53:20.944 mode and you get him running around, his arm is 0:53:20.985 --> 0:53:22.905 as loose as a un armed as you're gonna find 0:53:22.985 --> 0:53:26.064 on the move. But in structure, he's got some work 0:53:26.105 --> 0:53:26.464 to do. 0:53:26.545 --> 0:53:30.984 Okay, And he then thoughts overall about the real opportunities 0:53:30.985 --> 0:53:32.905 for this week and whether or not the Patriots havorship. 0:53:32.905 --> 0:53:34.344 What's the spread? I haven't even seen it. 0:53:34.585 --> 0:53:36.544 Yeah, the Bears are favored by six right now. 0:53:36.545 --> 0:53:36.745 Six? 0:53:36.905 --> 0:53:40.865 Yeah, yeah at home. Uh, you know, they're they're five hundred. 0:53:40.905 --> 0:53:43.185 They're a better football team. They certainly have more talent 0:53:43.305 --> 0:53:44.665 on their on their roster. 0:53:45.185 --> 0:53:47.745 This far away from being that kind of team themselves. Yeah, 0:53:47.785 --> 0:53:50.545 they're two and seven. It doesn't take much stretch of 0:53:50.545 --> 0:53:53.225 the imagination put this team at four and five. Yeah. 0:53:53.225 --> 0:53:56.265 Look, I I think there's there's a chance that this 0:53:56.384 --> 0:53:58.865 game is is close on Sunday. 0:53:59.384 --> 0:53:59.584 Uh. 0:53:59.625 --> 0:54:02.385 The main reason why I would say that is because 0:54:02.384 --> 0:54:04.705 I just believe a lot in what Drake May is 0:54:04.864 --> 0:54:06.945 doing and what he's putting out there. And I thought 0:54:07.344 --> 0:54:10.665 he said all the right things today about needing to 0:54:11.505 --> 0:54:15.545 walk the tightrope a little bit better of aggressiveness versus 0:54:15.905 --> 0:54:18.584 taking care of the football and knowing when the play 0:54:18.705 --> 0:54:21.705 is over or knowing when sometimes the best thing to 0:54:21.785 --> 0:54:23.904 do might be to just throw it away instead of 0:54:23.945 --> 0:54:26.825 try to force something sure, uh, and or something along 0:54:26.905 --> 0:54:29.105 those lines. And I think, you know, two of the 0:54:29.225 --> 0:54:32.785 two interceptions on Sunday, he felt like he forced it, 0:54:32.864 --> 0:54:35.465 Like he could have just thrown it away or checked 0:54:35.465 --> 0:54:37.984 it down or you know whatever and live to play 0:54:37.985 --> 0:54:40.785 another day and that sort of thing. And he tried 0:54:40.825 --> 0:54:42.384 to force it down the field. And that's where you 0:54:42.425 --> 0:54:45.545 can get yourself into trouble. So I do with the 0:54:45.585 --> 0:54:48.865 good thing about the the the things he's doing wrong 0:54:49.425 --> 0:54:51.904 is that I feel like every time I do feel 0:54:51.985 --> 0:54:54.944 him learning from it. And and that's all you can 0:54:54.985 --> 0:54:57.745 really ask for. But Chicago, there's no doubt about it. 0:54:57.745 --> 0:55:00.185 Like you look at their offensive roster and you say. 0:55:00.025 --> 0:55:01.745 Well, who's blowing you away? 0:55:01.985 --> 0:55:05.825 I mean, you know, DJ Moore, Dunsay, Keenan Allen, Like, 0:55:05.905 --> 0:55:07.745 how many of these receivers would you take on the 0:55:07.745 --> 0:55:11.705 Patriots right now? You're right, so you have to say 0:55:11.745 --> 0:55:14.225 they have more talent you have to on paper. 0:55:14.465 --> 0:55:17.344 Yeah, but again they're sort of underachieving a little bit 0:55:17.344 --> 0:55:17.745 there as. 0:55:17.625 --> 0:55:22.464 Well offensively for sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and we'll see 0:55:22.505 --> 0:55:24.385 what happens. You know, I know a lot of Chicago 0:55:24.505 --> 0:55:28.904 fans are already getting justin Field's flashbacks like Okay, you 0:55:28.945 --> 0:55:31.305 know you can see how talent like his raw talent 0:55:31.505 --> 0:55:33.984 and you can see all that, but it's not it's 0:55:33.985 --> 0:55:36.465 not translating right now to production. 0:55:36.105 --> 0:55:41.545 And that's translating football. Yeah right right, yeah, thanks man, anytime, 0:55:42.185 --> 0:55:44.545 appreciate you. Thank you all right for me? 0:55:44.785 --> 0:55:48.825 Yeah, I will ask him how the Rick Springfield concert was. Yeah, 0:55:48.825 --> 0:55:49.464 that's where he was. 0:55:49.665 --> 0:55:50.785 He was at Rick Springfield. 0:55:50.864 --> 0:55:54.504 Yeah, that's Jesse's girl, right right, Yeah, I don't know, ye. 0:55:55.705 --> 0:55:57.585 Do we have any Rick Springfield to bring Mike Greesese 0:55:57.585 --> 0:55:58.745 into the show in a little bit. 0:56:00.265 --> 0:56:02.585 We don't have the rights to that. 0:56:02.665 --> 0:56:04.504 Well, that's right, do not have the rights to Yeah, 0:56:04.505 --> 0:56:07.985 we don't have rights I know, doesn't I mean, you know, 0:56:08.105 --> 0:56:11.265 this is the Internet. Come on right, I know, see 0:56:11.265 --> 0:56:14.145 you next week. Yeah, thanks buddy, appreciate you. Hey, bud Light, 0:56:14.185 --> 0:56:17.025 easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Bud Light the official 0:56:17.065 --> 0:56:20.785 beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. So we thank 0:56:20.864 --> 0:56:23.825 Evan for his insight on the Bears and on the Patriots. 0:56:23.825 --> 0:56:26.985 And look, I mean I think it's pretty easy to see. Uh, 0:56:27.105 --> 0:56:31.505 you know, we got to take you know, small victories 0:56:31.505 --> 0:56:34.425 when we can get them. That. This is a huge 0:56:34.505 --> 0:56:37.985 wip work in progress, maybe a little bit bigger than 0:56:38.025 --> 0:56:42.305 a lot of us, including myself anticipated. There are multiple 0:56:42.465 --> 0:56:46.424 issues in play here, and I think it's going to take. 0:56:47.945 --> 0:56:51.585 I think it's going to take a lot of patients, 0:56:52.305 --> 0:56:55.465 a lot of patients, more than maybe I was even 0:56:55.745 --> 0:56:58.625 initially ready to invest as a fan and as a follower, 0:56:58.665 --> 0:57:01.305 and is someone who works around here, you know, you 0:57:01.344 --> 0:57:04.025 want it to happen. Now, let's go, we know what 0:57:04.105 --> 0:57:07.344 to do. Let's go do it. You know the old 0:57:07.384 --> 0:57:11.904 adage rome wasn't built in today. I think that's appropriate here. 0:57:12.905 --> 0:57:15.105 I think that's appropriate here, all right, Mike Grease is 0:57:15.145 --> 0:57:16.385 going to join us here in a couple of minutes 0:57:16.385 --> 0:57:20.145 in the meantime eight five five pats five hundred, toll 0:57:20.225 --> 0:57:24.785 free eight five five pats five hundred on the TPX hotline. 0:57:25.505 --> 0:57:28.705 It is podcasts at Patriots dot com if you want 0:57:28.705 --> 0:57:30.825 to send the email you got some thought, maybe some 0:57:30.945 --> 0:57:32.585 questions over some of the things that Evan and I 0:57:32.625 --> 0:57:35.985 talked about, or something coming up this weekend or beyond 0:57:36.665 --> 0:57:40.025 fire away at JR Broadcaster. That's how you can follow 0:57:40.065 --> 0:57:42.544 me on X. I want to thank Todd in North 0:57:42.545 --> 0:57:45.025 Carolina for sticking around as long as he did during 0:57:45.025 --> 0:57:48.345 that conversation. Hey Todd, how's it going bad? 0:57:48.385 --> 0:57:50.265 You're sure I was there though. That was kind of 0:57:50.265 --> 0:57:51.385 a gamble, wasn't it. 0:57:51.545 --> 0:57:54.584 It was? It was, And if I'd gotten beat beat beat, 0:57:54.705 --> 0:57:56.825 you know, then I would have you crushed you. That's all. 0:57:58.065 --> 0:58:01.225 Yeah, you know, I'm gonna ask a favor, John, shoot 0:58:01.265 --> 0:58:06.225 one old part to another. Okay, stop saying that the 0:58:06.265 --> 0:58:08.945 business of the team is to win games. 0:58:09.025 --> 0:58:12.625 But it is the business of every team the professional 0:58:12.665 --> 0:58:13.985 sports is to win games. 0:58:14.105 --> 0:58:16.705 The team that's the business of the sport is to 0:58:16.745 --> 0:58:20.145 build the team, and the team includes the coaches. 0:58:19.945 --> 0:58:22.505 On the way, on the way to on the way 0:58:22.545 --> 0:58:24.785 to winning. Yeah, you got to build the team on 0:58:24.865 --> 0:58:26.985 the way. But the bottom line is still winning. 0:58:27.225 --> 0:58:30.544 Behind the card, dude, the turn ain't gonna go get 0:58:30.585 --> 0:58:31.544 the donkey back there. 0:58:31.865 --> 0:58:34.385 You got to have the horse to pull the cart. 0:58:34.545 --> 0:58:35.665 And that's what I'm talking about. 0:58:35.705 --> 0:58:35.865 You. 0:58:35.865 --> 0:58:37.785 You got to have people in order to be able 0:58:37.825 --> 0:58:39.665 to win. They don't have the people. 0:58:40.545 --> 0:58:43.145 They haven't even built the cart yet, John flew down. 0:58:43.985 --> 0:58:44.585 I'm glad you. 0:58:44.625 --> 0:58:48.624 Said the cart. The cart is in place. The cart 0:58:48.705 --> 0:58:52.345 is in place, Todd, The cart is in place. Okay, 0:58:52.545 --> 0:58:55.345 it has been in place. The cart is the franchise. 0:58:56.145 --> 0:59:00.465 The cart is the team. Right now, there's there's no driver. 0:59:00.945 --> 0:59:03.825 There's no there's no driver on the cart, and the 0:59:03.825 --> 0:59:05.945 horse is lame. 0:59:07.345 --> 0:59:09.544 Well, no, the horse right now, i'd actually have to say, 0:59:10.065 --> 0:59:13.025 is our young quarterback. But he ain't got nothing. 0:59:13.065 --> 0:59:16.425 Well that's true, that's true. But he doesn't have anybody 0:59:16.505 --> 0:59:19.145 to run with him. He doesn't have anybody to spell him. 0:59:19.145 --> 0:59:21.425 He's got nobody to run with him, and he's got 0:59:21.465 --> 0:59:24.584 nobody to, you know, to keep his back end safe either. 0:59:24.625 --> 0:59:27.385 Because there's no driver for this thing other than you 0:59:27.425 --> 0:59:28.425 know what he's got going. 0:59:28.505 --> 0:59:29.985 So that's that's where we'll agree. 0:59:30.265 --> 0:59:33.145 You say, I just feel that sometimes, John, you get 0:59:33.145 --> 0:59:36.185 caught up because you're not a you're not a Massachusetts guy. 0:59:36.225 --> 0:59:39.065 You're not a big mass guy. You're a you're a Texan. 0:59:39.465 --> 0:59:41.225 What a god man? You had? 0:59:41.265 --> 0:59:41.825 What? Wait? 0:59:41.825 --> 0:59:41.985 Wait? 0:59:42.025 --> 0:59:44.265 Wait o, hold on, hold on, hold on, I am 0:59:44.305 --> 0:59:47.064 a wait hold on, Todd. No, no, no, I'm not letting 0:59:47.105 --> 0:59:48.665 that go. All right. First of all, First of all, 0:59:48.665 --> 0:59:52.745 hold on, hold on. I am a card carrying Masshole. 0:59:55.025 --> 0:59:59.905 Okay number one, John, Yes, absolutely, one hundred ten percent. 1:00:00.105 --> 1:00:03.505 I'm proud of my state. I've been here well over 1:00:03.545 --> 1:00:06.865 half of my life. I may have been born someplace else, 1:00:07.345 --> 1:00:10.025 but I understand what it takes to you know, work 1:00:10.545 --> 1:00:13.865 when compete in New England. That's one of the reasons 1:00:13.905 --> 1:00:16.064 why I moved to New England as a very young man, 1:00:16.345 --> 1:00:18.505 because I wanted to be in a marketplace like this, 1:00:18.825 --> 1:00:24.505 where things like this matter history here with the Red 1:00:24.505 --> 1:00:27.545 Sox and the Celtics and the Bruins, and the mindset, 1:00:27.585 --> 1:00:29.745 you know, the lunch pale work set, you know, the 1:00:30.745 --> 1:00:32.785 that that's what I wanted out of life. 1:00:32.865 --> 1:00:37.064 We remember the Celtics with you know Bird, all those 1:00:37.105 --> 1:00:37.625 old guys. 1:00:37.625 --> 1:00:39.545 Those are some of my favorite teams. And I hated 1:00:39.585 --> 1:00:41.104 the Celtics growing up. And you know why I hated 1:00:41.145 --> 1:00:43.705 him because they won all the time. That's why. And 1:00:43.745 --> 1:00:45.345 that's the only reason I could ever come up with. 1:00:45.625 --> 1:00:48.865 I wanted to live, work, and play in that environment. 1:00:49.105 --> 1:00:51.105 So I feel like I made the right choice in 1:00:51.145 --> 1:00:53.665 that regard. And I love Texas dearly. That's where I 1:00:53.705 --> 1:00:56.025 was born and raised. My entire family is still there. 1:00:56.825 --> 1:00:58.785 You know, I'm not a big fan of the Cowboys 1:00:58.825 --> 1:01:01.825 anymore because I'm just not a Jerry Jones fan. But hey, 1:01:01.905 --> 1:01:05.945 that's yeah, I listened there. I get it. But you know, 1:01:06.905 --> 1:01:08.905 anybody who's listened to the show for any linked to time, 1:01:08.985 --> 1:01:11.665 you know, I went to the University of Texas, so 1:01:11.785 --> 1:01:15.544 you cut me. I probably still bleed orange, right, And. 1:01:15.865 --> 1:01:18.105 We all know what happens once a year. There's a 1:01:18.145 --> 1:01:21.345 specific game, you know, the red River gets on, and 1:01:21.505 --> 1:01:23.745 there's there's the there's we know what John's up to. 1:01:25.825 --> 1:01:27.865 That's all I can say. Okay, it's it, you know, 1:01:27.905 --> 1:01:29.945 hook of Horns, that's it. That's all I got, you know. 1:01:29.985 --> 1:01:31.505 And by the way, I believe it was thirty four 1:01:31.505 --> 1:01:33.545 to three. Sorry to bring that up in the Strippers, 1:01:33.585 --> 1:01:35.225 but it was thirty four to three this year, so 1:01:35.905 --> 1:01:41.305 you know, but that's okay, that's fine. But still, you know, 1:01:41.825 --> 1:01:44.465 I've been around long enough and I've worked for this 1:01:44.545 --> 1:01:48.505 team now, in this organization for more than half of 1:01:48.545 --> 1:01:49.425 its existence. 1:01:50.585 --> 1:01:52.225 So I just put you on the spot, John, go 1:01:52.585 --> 1:01:54.265 if this is how you want to be and you're 1:01:54.345 --> 1:01:56.465 the card carrying you know, massoll, et cetera. 1:01:56.905 --> 1:01:57.425 Here you go. 1:01:58.785 --> 1:01:59.905 I've given you right. 1:01:59.785 --> 1:02:00.545 Now a choice. 1:02:00.585 --> 1:02:04.265 Are you keeping Male, AVP and Wolf are not ye 1:02:04.505 --> 1:02:05.305 or any combination? 1:02:05.625 --> 1:02:05.785 Yep? 1:02:05.825 --> 1:02:06.825 Are you keeping any of them? 1:02:06.905 --> 1:02:07.145 Yep? 1:02:07.185 --> 1:02:07.665 Some of them? 1:02:07.905 --> 1:02:10.985 Yep. I'm keeping them because I just I feel it's 1:02:11.065 --> 1:02:14.225 unfair to give somebody a year to turn things around. 1:02:14.465 --> 1:02:19.585 That's just unfair. Okay, So I'm keeping them, yes, but 1:02:19.825 --> 1:02:23.745 I need to see significant improvement. And if I don't 1:02:23.785 --> 1:02:24.305 see it this. 1:02:24.345 --> 1:02:27.385 Time right to be ich type stuff. 1:02:27.705 --> 1:02:29.745 Yeah, listen, I'm just saying. And if we don't see 1:02:30.145 --> 1:02:33.185 significant improvement, then yeah, then listen, all bets are off 1:02:33.185 --> 1:02:35.505 this time of year from now, so I'm willing to 1:02:35.505 --> 1:02:37.705 write it one more time. But this has to be 1:02:37.745 --> 1:02:40.825 a team thing, you know, Elliott and and and the 1:02:41.225 --> 1:02:44.105 entire crew. They've got to bring talent in. They've got 1:02:44.145 --> 1:02:45.745 the cap space. 1:02:46.385 --> 1:02:51.905 A VP worked with Mayo in any form or shape previously. 1:02:51.625 --> 1:02:54.225 To my knowledge, No, No, And like I said, I've 1:02:54.225 --> 1:02:58.905 known Alex for a long time too, so yeah, and 1:02:58.905 --> 1:03:01.665 and you know, I know what he's capable of, and 1:03:01.705 --> 1:03:03.985 I was thrilled when he came here, you know, And 1:03:04.345 --> 1:03:07.065 I just I just I just think that there, it's 1:03:07.065 --> 1:03:10.185 almost like you've got a bottle cap on something that's 1:03:10.225 --> 1:03:14.425 ready to go. And that's kind of how I picture this. 1:03:15.065 --> 1:03:18.905 He needs, he needs weaponry, and it's it's up to 1:03:18.945 --> 1:03:21.625 the player personnel people to get them here and then 1:03:21.665 --> 1:03:24.105 we might actually see this thing take off. And that's 1:03:24.185 --> 1:03:25.905 kind of what I'm That's how I'm looking at it. 1:03:27.025 --> 1:03:28.985 How much time is it going to take to recover 1:03:29.065 --> 1:03:31.585 from what they used to do, because I think AVP 1:03:31.785 --> 1:03:33.665 scheme is a little different than what they used to 1:03:33.745 --> 1:03:36.225 do here with McDaniels, And I don't think they have 1:03:36.465 --> 1:03:39.585 all the right people, you know, on the old line 1:03:39.625 --> 1:03:40.105 to do it. 1:03:40.505 --> 1:03:41.544 They you know, they don't. 1:03:41.585 --> 1:03:44.145 I think they're missing a few key pieces, right. 1:03:44.185 --> 1:03:44.825 I think there's. 1:03:44.625 --> 1:03:48.025 Somewhere in a kind of a zone between the two places, 1:03:48.065 --> 1:03:49.825 and that's kind of where they play. Yeah, and that's 1:03:49.865 --> 1:03:51.985 why it looks kind of awful at times. It looks 1:03:52.065 --> 1:03:54.785 just as you said, I think you discombobulated or something. 1:03:54.945 --> 1:03:59.185 Yes, discombobulated that too. Yeah, right, doesn't look right, No, 1:03:59.265 --> 1:04:01.505 it doesn't. It doesn't. And that's why they've been mixing 1:04:01.545 --> 1:04:03.945 and matching, like you know, pieces in a puzzle, you know, 1:04:04.025 --> 1:04:07.065 and they just never they you know, they can't find 1:04:07.145 --> 1:04:09.785 here's a good analogy. They don't have the corner piece 1:04:09.825 --> 1:04:11.665 to this puzzle right now. They can't find it. It 1:04:11.705 --> 1:04:15.345 doesn't exist. No, okay, I agree, And the corner piece 1:04:15.385 --> 1:04:17.825 that puzzle is definitely at left tackle. That's that's all 1:04:17.865 --> 1:04:21.185 there is to it. And so it's got to start there. 1:04:22.105 --> 1:04:24.785 And so here's what I heard, John, I heard somebody 1:04:24.825 --> 1:04:26.785 earlier this week say, Okay, well, you know, if they 1:04:26.825 --> 1:04:28.584 end up with the first pick, which right now they would, 1:04:28.665 --> 1:04:30.225 I'm not sure that they end up with that. But 1:04:30.265 --> 1:04:31.425 if they end up with the first pick, you know 1:04:31.425 --> 1:04:32.825 they ought to just trade that off and go get 1:04:32.825 --> 1:04:36.225 a boatload of other picks. Well why no, why go 1:04:36.305 --> 1:04:39.105 get the best guy that can help you win football games? 1:04:39.825 --> 1:04:41.865 Yeah? I agree, wholeheartedly with that. 1:04:42.545 --> 1:04:45.185 So let's see what they do. Right, So I'm with you, 1:04:45.345 --> 1:04:47.104 not no, John, I'm gonna let you go. My kids 1:04:47.145 --> 1:04:49.345 running out of school waving at me frantically, and he's 1:04:49.345 --> 1:04:52.145 probably wondering what dad's doing on the Phone's God, I 1:04:52.145 --> 1:04:53.745 bet you miss both days, don't you? John? 1:04:53.905 --> 1:04:57.265 Always always trust me. They will go by fast. 1:04:58.225 --> 1:04:59.225 They are, they have been. 1:04:59.425 --> 1:05:02.505 You'd be good Todd? Now, Yeah, thank you? Enjoy it, 1:05:02.905 --> 1:05:05.185 Todd in North Carolina. All right, let's bring in the 1:05:05.225 --> 1:05:09.825 one and only Mike Reese, ESPN dot Com, ESPN NFL 1:05:09.945 --> 1:05:14.345 Nation reporter and apparently lover of all things Rick Springfield. 1:05:18.385 --> 1:05:21.185 John, I also have to say to Todd in North Carolina, 1:05:21.265 --> 1:05:23.825 I'm gonna be running around after this interview doing a 1:05:23.825 --> 1:05:26.065 little carpool, get my kids where they need to go. 1:05:26.505 --> 1:05:30.865 Yes, together, good dad, you are good Dad? You are? 1:05:30.985 --> 1:05:34.025 I like that. See, I've I've graduated from that stage though. 1:05:34.065 --> 1:05:36.945 I just married off my youngest about two weeks ago, 1:05:37.425 --> 1:05:43.545 so I'm now granddad stage, except my grandkids. My grandkids 1:05:43.625 --> 1:05:46.425 call they call me pop pop. So there we go. 1:05:47.185 --> 1:05:47.905 That's awesome. 1:05:47.985 --> 1:05:48.785 Yeah, that's awesome. 1:05:48.865 --> 1:05:50.465 Do you miss it? John? Uh? 1:05:51.225 --> 1:05:55.505 I miss I missed some of the hockey practices I do. Uh, 1:05:55.545 --> 1:05:58.185 I missed coaching baseball, which I coach for twenty years. 1:05:58.225 --> 1:06:01.305 I do so, but I try to see, you know, 1:06:01.385 --> 1:06:03.585 my grandkids as much as I can. They have their 1:06:03.625 --> 1:06:06.345 own lives, you know, and uh and I respect that. 1:06:06.585 --> 1:06:09.265 And you know, their father's a busy you know, entrepreneur 1:06:09.305 --> 1:06:11.465 as well. He you know, has his own business and 1:06:11.505 --> 1:06:15.385 so it's it's tough. But at the same time, I'm 1:06:15.425 --> 1:06:17.665 always here if they need me, and I'd love to 1:06:17.705 --> 1:06:20.705 have that, that fallback measure when they need me, and 1:06:21.185 --> 1:06:23.105 I'm I'm happy for that. So I was ready to 1:06:23.585 --> 1:06:25.905 move into a different stage where I don't have to 1:06:25.905 --> 1:06:28.385 be dad anymore. I can be friend and I can 1:06:28.385 --> 1:06:30.545 be pop pop and that's kind of where I like. 1:06:30.585 --> 1:06:33.225 And you'll enjoy that that time too. But while you 1:06:33.345 --> 1:06:39.505 can brother enjoy the time with the kids, definitely definitely 1:06:39.585 --> 1:06:42.865 do so. Springfield, come on, I need to know the 1:06:42.945 --> 1:06:45.785 details about this. You know, I didn't realize you were 1:06:45.785 --> 1:06:48.465 such a fan, because to me, Rick Springfield is the 1:06:48.665 --> 1:06:51.865 epitome of the late seventies and early eighties rock and roll. 1:06:52.345 --> 1:06:56.905 Loved him. My wife actually Ms Robin, she she loved 1:06:56.945 --> 1:06:59.905 Rick Springfield as an actor on General Hospital. Do you 1:06:59.985 --> 1:07:00.825 go that far back? 1:07:02.745 --> 1:07:05.905 I do, John, And I'm gonna text you a short video. 1:07:05.985 --> 1:07:09.105 I stepped from a show I went to see Friday 1:07:09.185 --> 1:07:12.305 Night in when Pocket, Rhode Island at this Stadium Theater. 1:07:13.225 --> 1:07:17.705 So I liked him, John. I like live music where 1:07:18.265 --> 1:07:22.545 everyone is happy and yeah, you're in. It's one of 1:07:22.585 --> 1:07:26.305 the few environments to me in the world where we 1:07:26.345 --> 1:07:29.945 can all come together and everyone can put their differences 1:07:29.945 --> 1:07:34.465 of died and for two hours we can simply have 1:07:34.705 --> 1:07:35.425 joy together. 1:07:35.785 --> 1:07:37.985 That's one hundred percent. I'm with you on that one. 1:07:38.505 --> 1:07:40.705 Uh Miss Robin and I just went to a concert 1:07:40.785 --> 1:07:42.585 like that a little over a month ago. We went 1:07:42.625 --> 1:07:47.025 to see uh Elo at the TD Garden and Uh 1:07:47.065 --> 1:07:51.225 it was. It was freaking awesome. It was awesome concert. 1:07:51.505 --> 1:07:53.425 I heard really good things about that show. 1:07:53.505 --> 1:07:57.425 John jeff Lynn still got it. He still got it. Yeah, 1:07:57.425 --> 1:07:59.825 And I'm all too sorry that this is their farewell 1:07:59.865 --> 1:08:02.305 tour because I think the man could play and and 1:08:02.345 --> 1:08:04.065 but I don't blame him. He wants to retire. Let's 1:08:04.145 --> 1:08:07.105 let the man retire, right, But I just I'm like, Wow, 1:08:07.185 --> 1:08:11.505 he totally and completely reformed that band, reformed his orchestra, 1:08:12.585 --> 1:08:15.905 and they sound just like they did in the seventies, 1:08:15.905 --> 1:08:18.705 and I'm like, wow, I felt like I stepped back 1:08:18.745 --> 1:08:21.585 into a time warp. And and so that's why I 1:08:21.625 --> 1:08:24.305 was interested when uh, you know, Evan mentioned, Hey, ask 1:08:24.465 --> 1:08:27.025 ask Mike about you know, Rick Springfield, and I'm like, 1:08:27.185 --> 1:08:29.025 I didn't realize that you were such a big fan 1:08:29.145 --> 1:08:31.585 of you know, that that era rock and roll, because 1:08:31.665 --> 1:08:34.425 I'm a huge fan of seventies and eighties. Miss Robin 1:08:34.705 --> 1:08:39.265 knows the lyrics to every song ever performed in the 1:08:39.385 --> 1:08:41.545 rock genre in the nineteen seventies. 1:08:43.265 --> 1:08:45.985 Amazing. I listen, I get sent the video. 1:08:46.705 --> 1:08:49.625 Yeah, she blows me away every time we turn on 1:08:50.065 --> 1:08:52.545 you know, seventies on seven on Serious Exam and she's 1:08:52.545 --> 1:08:53.905 singing along with the Little Rex and I'm like, I 1:08:53.945 --> 1:08:57.265 don't even remember this song. I don't even remember it, 1:08:58.225 --> 1:09:01.185 and she's singing it and I'm just like, I don't 1:09:01.185 --> 1:09:03.545 get it. And here's the kicker. Wait second, Mike, here's 1:09:03.585 --> 1:09:08.545 the kicker. Miss Robin is well younger than I am. Okay, 1:09:09.385 --> 1:09:11.185 she wasn't. I'm not going to give her birthday. I'm 1:09:11.185 --> 1:09:15.225 just gonna say she's younger, okay. And so nineteen seventies 1:09:15.265 --> 1:09:19.905 were my teenage years, right, and yeah, I was twenty 1:09:19.945 --> 1:09:21.985 in nineteen seventy nine, so that gives you a bit 1:09:22.025 --> 1:09:24.065 of an idea how old I am now. But I'm 1:09:24.065 --> 1:09:27.025 just saying she's well younger. What is that? 1:09:27.385 --> 1:09:28.025 Oh? 1:09:28.065 --> 1:09:30.225 Oh, did you text me on my phone? Okay, here 1:09:30.265 --> 1:09:32.145 it is. I'm looking at it right now. Oh, this 1:09:32.225 --> 1:09:37.305 is awesome. Look at this, John. 1:09:37.545 --> 1:09:40.465 As John's looking at it, I'll just teake over it 1:09:40.505 --> 1:09:41.385 so you can enjoy it. 1:09:42.825 --> 1:09:47.265 This is great. You had great seats, great seats, like, 1:09:47.345 --> 1:09:48.185 holy crap boat. 1:09:48.425 --> 1:09:51.585 It would be like for those listening, it would be 1:09:51.665 --> 1:09:55.785 like being at the fifth say, the twenty yard line, yeah, 1:09:55.945 --> 1:09:56.505 front row. 1:09:57.145 --> 1:10:00.665 Sweet, All right, now you're talking. All right, Mike, I 1:10:00.665 --> 1:10:04.065 have a whole new found respect for you, and and 1:10:04.065 --> 1:10:05.865 and here and here's the and here's the other thing. 1:10:05.905 --> 1:10:07.585 Here's the other thing. Dude. We need to go to 1:10:07.585 --> 1:10:10.945 a concert. We need to go that. 1:10:11.065 --> 1:10:12.705 You want to swift my arm on that one? 1:10:12.745 --> 1:10:14.865 Okay, all right, We're gonna have to do that because 1:10:14.945 --> 1:10:16.705 it sounds to me like we'd like the same music, 1:10:16.705 --> 1:10:19.025 even though I'm I'm a little older than you. So 1:10:19.225 --> 1:10:22.225 I have a I have a real appreciation for people 1:10:22.585 --> 1:10:24.705 who like that that aaro rock and roll because that's 1:10:24.905 --> 1:10:27.545 to me. That music speaks to me, still does and 1:10:27.585 --> 1:10:31.025 it probably always will. Right, all right, should we talked 1:10:31.025 --> 1:10:32.465 some football now and get off the music. 1:10:33.385 --> 1:10:35.385 Let's get it, Let's do it, Let's do it. 1:10:35.465 --> 1:10:37.905 Thank you, buddy, I appreciate your time as always. So 1:10:39.105 --> 1:10:41.585 I guess my biggest issue with his team, and I 1:10:41.625 --> 1:10:43.345 was talking with Evan about this a little bit earlier, 1:10:44.225 --> 1:10:46.745 has to do with Man, they get to a certain 1:10:46.785 --> 1:10:49.705 point and they just can't seem to get over the hump. 1:10:50.065 --> 1:10:52.185 And I think there are several things that are keeping 1:10:52.225 --> 1:10:55.065 them from getting over the hump. This last week. It 1:10:55.145 --> 1:10:56.745 might have been a little game management, It might have 1:10:56.745 --> 1:10:59.665 been a little strategy, you know, whether or not you know, 1:11:00.025 --> 1:11:01.625 I mean, you know, hey they went into the wind 1:11:01.625 --> 1:11:03.705 in overtime, or they didn't go for two and they 1:11:03.705 --> 1:11:05.745 tried to kick the extra point, or I mean there's 1:11:05.785 --> 1:11:09.105 some things there. They're close enough, but they can't go 1:11:09.145 --> 1:11:12.545 over the hump. What are they missing, Mike? To get 1:11:12.585 --> 1:11:14.785 them over the hump at this stage so then they 1:11:14.785 --> 1:11:16.585 can begin to learn how to win. 1:11:19.385 --> 1:11:22.265 But I think you nailed it. John Tuckin's the todd 1:11:22.465 --> 1:11:27.425 Sires to be coming on with the offensive line. It's 1:11:27.505 --> 1:11:30.905 just the part to win when you don't have that 1:11:31.385 --> 1:11:35.985 area of the team squared away. And so I guess 1:11:36.025 --> 1:11:38.185 I look at a team like the Lions of one 1:11:38.225 --> 1:11:39.545 of the class teams in the. 1:11:39.545 --> 1:11:41.985 NFL right now, Yeah. 1:11:41.585 --> 1:11:44.345 Why is that? I mean, I think they got that 1:11:44.505 --> 1:11:48.185 foundation on the offensive line, and I don't know if 1:11:48.185 --> 1:11:51.865 that'll get if that can get sick you know this 1:11:52.145 --> 1:11:54.905 during the season. I think you can just try to 1:11:54.905 --> 1:11:58.305 piece it together and hope to catch lightning in a bottle. 1:11:58.385 --> 1:12:01.105 But I think big picture, that's the top of the 1:12:01.145 --> 1:12:02.185 list that be done. 1:12:02.345 --> 1:12:06.665 Okay, all right? So I think also that are we 1:12:06.785 --> 1:12:10.185 wrong from a fan or a media perspective? Are we 1:12:10.265 --> 1:12:14.465 wrong to criticize a coaching staff that Tennant's rookie season 1:12:14.505 --> 1:12:18.385 around here? Or is criticism warranted? Is it fair game? 1:12:18.505 --> 1:12:20.345 Because you know, you'd like to think that we know 1:12:20.345 --> 1:12:22.625 a little about football after covering for many as many 1:12:22.705 --> 1:12:24.745 years as we have, we'd like to think that we 1:12:24.785 --> 1:12:26.385 know a little bit about it, even though we haven't 1:12:26.385 --> 1:12:28.425 ever played it at that level. What are you your 1:12:28.465 --> 1:12:31.945 thoughts on on on You're odd and for that matter, 1:12:32.065 --> 1:12:35.425 Alex van Pelt and Marcus Covington, you know, deflecting, uh, 1:12:35.545 --> 1:12:37.145 you know, the bullets that come at them. 1:12:39.185 --> 1:12:42.185 So so I think it's fair to criticize the coaching 1:12:42.225 --> 1:12:46.585 as long as the critique is rooted in fairness. And 1:12:47.105 --> 1:12:49.545 I believe that all three of the coaches that you 1:12:49.825 --> 1:12:54.465 talked about, right, they're john they they wouldn't expect it 1:12:54.745 --> 1:13:00.145 otherwise because they're critical of themselves. I guess the balance 1:13:00.305 --> 1:13:02.625 for me, and this is what's been hard for me, 1:13:02.905 --> 1:13:05.545 and I don't know where you stand on this, is 1:13:06.385 --> 1:13:10.625 I feel like the talent level on the team is 1:13:11.385 --> 1:13:15.225 lower on a week to week basis than the other 1:13:15.385 --> 1:13:20.265 team they're playing. So when I'm critiquing the coaching, it's 1:13:20.985 --> 1:13:24.425 it's a balance of like, they're not they don't have 1:13:24.505 --> 1:13:28.705 a talented of players most weeks at the other team, 1:13:29.225 --> 1:13:31.465 So are they getting the most out of what they 1:13:31.585 --> 1:13:35.185 have which still might not be enough? And how do 1:13:35.265 --> 1:13:38.345 you sort of balance the critique with those dynamics? 1:13:38.665 --> 1:13:38.905 Point? 1:13:39.265 --> 1:13:42.665 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, that's the only thing. I 1:13:42.745 --> 1:13:45.065 do want to be fair because we all like Giraft, 1:13:45.705 --> 1:13:47.785 I like a VP. I've known you know this. I've 1:13:47.825 --> 1:13:50.625 known alexand Pelt since he was in high school and 1:13:50.945 --> 1:13:52.585 covered him for a long time too. Since he was 1:13:52.625 --> 1:13:57.385 a quarterback at San Antonio Churchill. You know DeMarcus Covington. 1:13:57.425 --> 1:14:00.665 I'm learning this year, but I think he's extraordinarily bright, 1:14:00.785 --> 1:14:04.345 intelligent guy, good football guy, good football mind. The players 1:14:04.545 --> 1:14:08.225 like him, and yet we ain't seeing any results out there, 1:14:08.265 --> 1:14:11.185 and maybe that's maybe it's a personnel issue, whatever it 1:14:11.265 --> 1:14:13.705 may be. Clearly we know that this is going to 1:14:13.785 --> 1:14:17.105 be a w IP, a work in progress for quite 1:14:17.105 --> 1:14:18.705 a bit of time. But when you see them with 1:14:18.825 --> 1:14:24.225 opportunity and they can't quite meet that opportunity, who is 1:14:24.265 --> 1:14:25.785 it fair to point the finger at. 1:14:28.585 --> 1:14:29.065 Oh Man? 1:14:30.465 --> 1:14:31.865 Like I will start with this. 1:14:32.065 --> 1:14:34.585 I mean, I just had this note today. I didn't 1:14:34.665 --> 1:14:38.465 realize it, and I'm always sasitant to delve into the 1:14:38.585 --> 1:14:42.985 sports wagering aspects of the business. But so they had 1:14:43.065 --> 1:14:46.785 been an underdog in all ten games, right, and so 1:14:47.465 --> 1:14:50.705 it's the first time since nineteen ninety two that they've 1:14:50.745 --> 1:14:53.385 had a ten game in a row streak. So I 1:14:53.505 --> 1:14:56.385 think when I look at that, it tells me that 1:14:57.545 --> 1:15:00.145 it's a So who do you appoint the plane to? 1:15:00.265 --> 1:15:04.145 It's never like one thing I think in fairness when 1:15:04.185 --> 1:15:07.505 we talk about fair critique, they took over a tough situation. 1:15:08.385 --> 1:15:10.585 The covered It wasn't like they were walking into a 1:15:11.425 --> 1:15:15.185 the covered and stocked situation. But at the same time, 1:15:15.545 --> 1:15:19.385 they could have probably done more because not probably John, 1:15:19.465 --> 1:15:22.625 they could have done more to get better players in here. 1:15:23.345 --> 1:15:25.745 And when I say that, I'm thinking about they signed 1:15:25.785 --> 1:15:30.025 chuk Sakora for they signed nick Lesrett, they signed kJ Osb. 1:15:30.785 --> 1:15:33.185 These are players that are even either no longer with 1:15:33.305 --> 1:15:36.905 the team or they're not contributed to the team, so 1:15:38.385 --> 1:15:41.945 they're blamed there. I think some of the coaching decisions, 1:15:42.945 --> 1:15:45.705 some of the development of players, are the coaches getting 1:15:45.745 --> 1:15:46.945 the most out of the players. 1:15:47.265 --> 1:15:48.385 Some of this on the players. 1:15:49.185 --> 1:15:52.025 So I think it's all as I hate to col. 1:15:51.945 --> 1:15:54.225 Bill Belichick but used to use the words. 1:15:54.305 --> 1:15:58.225 It's a mosaic, and I think that I'll quote him 1:15:58.265 --> 1:16:00.865 and say that it's all those pieces together. 1:16:01.625 --> 1:16:03.985 Were you surprised that they didn't make any real moves 1:16:04.585 --> 1:16:06.905 for the before the trade deadline. I know they've They've 1:16:06.945 --> 1:16:08.985 added since added a couple of pieces of the puzzle 1:16:09.265 --> 1:16:11.625 off of other practice squads. They brought the kid in 1:16:11.705 --> 1:16:13.905 from Oklahoma, the guard Robinson. 1:16:14.465 --> 1:16:14.625 Uh. 1:16:14.865 --> 1:16:16.545 I think they signed another one that was just in 1:16:16.665 --> 1:16:18.785 for practice or for trout yesterday too. 1:16:18.865 --> 1:16:23.345 Correct, Yeah, linebacker Monty Race. 1:16:23.505 --> 1:16:24.825 That's Monty Rice right at. 1:16:24.745 --> 1:16:28.705 The University of Georgia. Yeah, and he's on the practice squad. 1:16:29.185 --> 1:16:32.145 And I think my only I wasn't surprised because I 1:16:32.225 --> 1:16:34.425 think the only question I was curious about would any 1:16:34.505 --> 1:16:38.425 team give up an asset for Taekwon, Thornton or kJ Osbourne. 1:16:38.425 --> 1:16:41.825 I thought, if anything, the Patriots would be trading players, 1:16:42.025 --> 1:16:43.625 not acquiring players. 1:16:44.705 --> 1:16:46.945 Yeah. I kind of was a little surprised by that too, 1:16:47.065 --> 1:16:49.585 But I guess what that told me though, was they 1:16:49.665 --> 1:16:52.305 still feel like they're in a developmental stage and they 1:16:52.385 --> 1:16:54.905 still want to see what they might turn some of 1:16:54.985 --> 1:16:58.145 these guys into before they cut bait. Does that make 1:16:58.185 --> 1:16:58.665 any sense? 1:17:00.625 --> 1:17:01.545 It does make sense. 1:17:01.665 --> 1:17:05.265 And another scenario that I've thought about is maybe those 1:17:05.345 --> 1:17:08.265 players just didn't have a market, you know, because usually 1:17:08.385 --> 1:17:10.945 when you're another team and you're thinking about trading for 1:17:11.025 --> 1:17:13.705 a player, the first thing you do is turn on 1:17:13.825 --> 1:17:16.985 the tape and watch those players they are. Let's see 1:17:16.985 --> 1:17:22.185 how they would get And in fairness, what Taypwon, Thornton 1:17:22.225 --> 1:17:25.625 and kJ Osbourne has put on tape this year, it 1:17:25.745 --> 1:17:28.505 might not be worthy of trading anything for at this point. 1:17:28.625 --> 1:17:29.985 And so I think that's another. 1:17:29.825 --> 1:17:34.025 Thought had on how sure and very quickly before we 1:17:34.145 --> 1:17:36.985 let you get out of here? Did did they get 1:17:37.025 --> 1:17:39.065 what they should have gotten for josh Ushe should they 1:17:39.065 --> 1:17:42.545 have given up on him, oh man. 1:17:42.825 --> 1:17:44.465 And that's so tough for me, John. 1:17:44.665 --> 1:17:47.465 So I'm gonna I hope I don't play both sides 1:17:47.465 --> 1:17:51.545 of the fence here because I felt like they actually 1:17:51.705 --> 1:17:53.065 missed him in this last game. 1:17:54.465 --> 1:17:56.945 That's why I asked the question on one pass rushing. 1:17:58.265 --> 1:18:02.465 Yeah, yeah, and so yeah, what were you gonna say? 1:18:02.945 --> 1:18:04.585 No, no, no, I was just gonna say that's that's 1:18:04.705 --> 1:18:06.665 kind of what I thought too, which is why I 1:18:06.705 --> 1:18:07.345 asked the question. 1:18:09.185 --> 1:18:10.985 Yeah, so I thought they missed. 1:18:10.785 --> 1:18:12.705 Him in this last game, and I hate to give 1:18:12.905 --> 1:18:17.985 up a pass rusher. I guess they just felt like 1:18:18.105 --> 1:18:20.505 it what they weren't going to bring him back next. 1:18:20.465 --> 1:18:22.465 Year, and he was. 1:18:22.665 --> 1:18:25.545 He's limited in what he does. He doesn't play much 1:18:25.585 --> 1:18:29.305 on special teams, so they took a modest staff in return. 1:18:30.785 --> 1:18:33.545 That was the death. I think a five or six 1:18:33.745 --> 1:18:36.625 you know that you could get. I don't know, John, 1:18:36.665 --> 1:18:38.745 it's just sort of to me. I probably would have 1:18:38.865 --> 1:18:42.905 kept them, just because I like pass rushers, But I 1:18:43.825 --> 1:18:47.145 don't know it's probably what if they say six to 1:18:47.185 --> 1:18:48.425 one half or whatever. 1:18:48.185 --> 1:18:50.905 It is, Yeah, six and one half a dozen another, Yeah, 1:18:51.025 --> 1:18:54.985 I agree with that. There you go right precisely. Well, 1:18:55.305 --> 1:18:58.105 the Chicago team has got its own problems right now. 1:18:58.145 --> 1:19:00.065 They've got a couple of defensive starters that it looked 1:19:00.065 --> 1:19:03.505 like they'll be out for Sunday, and they've got some 1:19:03.945 --> 1:19:07.785 gross inconsistencies going on offense. Stop me where you've heard 1:19:07.825 --> 1:19:11.025 this story before. But even though they're a five hundred 1:19:11.065 --> 1:19:13.305 team right now, it sounds to me like they're looking 1:19:13.345 --> 1:19:15.225 for a little identity, just like New England is. 1:19:17.425 --> 1:19:18.185 It does look that. 1:19:18.225 --> 1:19:21.585 Way to me. And here's the thought from the Patriots perspective. 1:19:21.945 --> 1:19:24.465 A couple of weeks ago, you were going to London 1:19:24.545 --> 1:19:27.745 to play the Jaguars, and everyone was saying do they 1:19:27.785 --> 1:19:31.145 want to play for their coach Doug Peters? And you 1:19:31.265 --> 1:19:33.465 got up on them early, and you had a chance 1:19:33.545 --> 1:19:36.745 to put them away, and you let them stick around 1:19:37.225 --> 1:19:40.945 and you're faded, you know, down the stretch. And here 1:19:41.025 --> 1:19:43.465 you got a situation where you got a team they're 1:19:43.465 --> 1:19:46.705 asking the same question. After the Bears lost on that 1:19:46.785 --> 1:19:48.785 Hail Mary two weeks ago, and then they had a 1:19:48.945 --> 1:19:53.385 gug coming back last week. You know, they might be vulnerable. John, 1:19:53.585 --> 1:19:56.545 I don't know that, but what you know, like, let's 1:19:56.545 --> 1:19:58.865 see what you got. Can you come in there and 1:19:59.025 --> 1:20:02.425 throw a punch, you know? And I will say the 1:20:02.545 --> 1:20:06.465 lost eight quarters at least have been competitive and a 1:20:06.545 --> 1:20:09.065 little bit better than what we saw the final three 1:20:09.145 --> 1:20:11.985 in London. So can you go off that, you know, 1:20:12.185 --> 1:20:14.145 and go make it happen and let's. 1:20:13.985 --> 1:20:14.665 See what they can do? 1:20:14.985 --> 1:20:15.105 Right? 1:20:15.465 --> 1:20:18.585 Yes, that's I'm just that's all I'm looking for right now. 1:20:18.705 --> 1:20:21.185 I just you know, I've stopped worrying about wins and losses. 1:20:21.745 --> 1:20:25.265 I want to see positive steps forward for this team 1:20:25.545 --> 1:20:27.785 to get back to creating some kind of an identity 1:20:27.825 --> 1:20:29.985 about itself. And I think that has to start now. 1:20:30.145 --> 1:20:34.065 If it hasn't, if it didn't start weeks ago, that's right, 1:20:34.385 --> 1:20:37.425 that's right, you know, Mike, I wish that I had 1:20:37.505 --> 1:20:38.185 Jesse's girl. 1:20:40.145 --> 1:20:41.625 Yes, he's a friend. 1:20:45.425 --> 1:20:47.505 You're all right, Thank you, buddy. I appreciate your time. 1:20:47.785 --> 1:20:51.905 Enjoy the time with your kids today, bro, Thanks, thank you, 1:20:53.025 --> 1:20:55.105 thank you, Bud. I appreciate you. Thank you. The one 1:20:55.145 --> 1:20:58.265 and only Mike Reese at Mike Reese ore E. I 1:20:58.505 --> 1:21:01.585 S s On X. Yeah, that's he's a good dude. 1:21:02.025 --> 1:21:08.465 Uh he is, he tweeted earlier this week. Uh jeez, Wow, 1:21:09.425 --> 1:21:11.945 Patriots are one of nine teams with two or fewer wins, 1:21:12.385 --> 1:21:16.104 which ties for most through week nine since nineteen seventy 1:21:17.665 --> 1:21:26.105 Holy crap, right, yeah, yeah, this is very reminiscent of 1:21:27.225 --> 1:21:31.185 of uh, you know, the teams that struggled here in 1:21:31.225 --> 1:21:34.225 New England, you know, like under Coach Rust. You know, 1:21:34.345 --> 1:21:37.785 back in nineteen ninety ninety one, that was the year 1:21:37.825 --> 1:21:44.105 that nobody wanted to do a television show, a coaches show, 1:21:46.505 --> 1:21:50.065 and so we volunteered to do it. When I was 1:21:50.145 --> 1:21:53.385 working at what is now the CBS affiliate in Providence. 1:21:55.225 --> 1:21:57.145 We did the Rod Rust Show, if you will. I 1:21:57.185 --> 1:21:59.585 think we called it something differently because we didn't want 1:21:59.625 --> 1:22:03.065 to attract attention to it necessarily. But as I recall, 1:22:03.625 --> 1:22:05.825 we did like a monthly show. It wasn't even a 1:22:05.865 --> 1:22:11.585 weekly show. And Coach Rust could not have been nicer, 1:22:11.785 --> 1:22:17.065 more polite, smart guy. He wasn't a bad guy at all. 1:22:17.305 --> 1:22:21.865 He wasn't terribly engaging, God rest his soul, but he 1:22:22.105 --> 1:22:25.065 was He understood the drill, He knew it, he knew 1:22:25.305 --> 1:22:28.425 what was expected of him. You know. So that's why, 1:22:28.585 --> 1:22:30.105 you know, talking to Todd earlier, it's kind of like, 1:22:30.145 --> 1:22:32.065 you know, hey, can we do some building here? Can 1:22:32.105 --> 1:22:34.625 we build the cart? Before we know it's about winds. 1:22:35.185 --> 1:22:37.145 Coach rush knew that back in ninety one when they 1:22:37.185 --> 1:22:40.705 were one in fifteen. No, they weren't one in fifteen. 1:22:41.145 --> 1:22:43.865 They were one in How many games do we play 1:22:43.905 --> 1:22:47.985 back then? Sixteen? Yeah, one in fifteen, Right, I'm trying 1:22:48.025 --> 1:22:50.385 to remember when did we go to the sixteen game schedule. 1:22:50.385 --> 1:22:53.425 I don't even remember now. I think it was then 1:22:53.545 --> 1:23:01.745 we are in sixteen, so they were one in fifteen. Ugly, ugly. Nevertheless, 1:23:02.585 --> 1:23:06.545 it's I mean, this is you know, I can understand 1:23:06.585 --> 1:23:10.625 that there's a certain amount of frustration, but I'm going 1:23:10.665 --> 1:23:12.665 to try to take one or two small things out 1:23:12.665 --> 1:23:17.185 of every week and hopefully plant them like seeds in 1:23:17.265 --> 1:23:20.745 the garden. This has probably even been discussed by the 1:23:20.785 --> 1:23:23.625 coaching staff, but I want to plant small seeds in 1:23:23.705 --> 1:23:25.465 the garden. I want to nurture them, I want to 1:23:25.545 --> 1:23:27.225 water them, I want to make sure there's plenty of 1:23:27.345 --> 1:23:30.065 sunshine on top of them. By the way, eighty one 1:23:30.465 --> 1:23:35.305 degrees in Boston today, what is up with that? Don't 1:23:35.345 --> 1:23:38.545 tell me that's global warming. Okay, that's a freak show 1:23:39.825 --> 1:23:42.465 on decent. Wait, not December. I get a head. I'm 1:23:42.505 --> 1:23:48.945 geting ahead of myself now, November sixth, unbelievable. I think 1:23:49.025 --> 1:23:52.785 this is the warmest it has been this late in 1:23:52.865 --> 1:23:56.305 the calendar year in maybe like one hundred years. Am 1:23:56.345 --> 1:23:59.505 I right about that? I think it got to eighty 1:23:59.625 --> 1:24:03.225 one in Boston today. Here in Foxborough it was seventy seven, 1:24:03.345 --> 1:24:07.105 seventy eight. I think it got to I know when 1:24:07.145 --> 1:24:10.385 I got into my car off of campus today. Okay, 1:24:10.465 --> 1:24:12.265 when I was leaving campus to come to the stadium, 1:24:12.945 --> 1:24:15.425 the thermometer in my car is at eighty four. 1:24:15.745 --> 1:24:17.705 It's currently seventy six in Foxborough right now. 1:24:17.785 --> 1:24:23.025 Holy crap, November sixth. I'm not at four pm, you 1:24:23.065 --> 1:24:24.825 know what I mean. I'm just I don't want to 1:24:24.865 --> 1:24:26.905 look the gift tourists in the mouth. I used that 1:24:26.945 --> 1:24:29.225 phrase a couple of times today showing my age. Now 1:24:29.305 --> 1:24:32.705 that was one for my grand mother. But I feel 1:24:32.745 --> 1:24:34.305 like I want to just go out and drop trial 1:24:34.345 --> 1:24:39.825 and run around. We don't. I'm not gonna do that. 1:24:40.545 --> 1:24:42.425 First of all, it's scare the hell out of everybody. 1:24:42.585 --> 1:24:44.145 Second of all, I don't want to go to jail, 1:24:44.265 --> 1:24:47.625 so I'm not gonna do that. Sorry, fight that war. Sorry, 1:24:47.665 --> 1:24:50.425 State police, which is right down the street. Don't don't 1:24:50.465 --> 1:24:53.505 come over here. Okay, I'm not gonna do it. Not 1:24:53.585 --> 1:24:59.625 gonna do it. We're going streak. 1:24:59.665 --> 1:24:59.905 Hang. 1:25:02.825 --> 1:25:06.105 It feels like it outside, man, a spring day, shocking. 1:25:06.745 --> 1:25:10.585 Oh look what we have here, Eldred? We found you, Eldred? 1:25:10.625 --> 1:25:10.985 How are you? 1:25:14.145 --> 1:25:16.745 How you doing it? It's all good, brother, How are you? 1:25:18.425 --> 1:25:19.145 I'm doing good? 1:25:19.785 --> 1:25:19.985 Y'all? 1:25:20.065 --> 1:25:23.305 Seventy six seventy seven, and I can't believe it's November two? 1:25:23.825 --> 1:25:27.145 Why how is it in? How it is in Carolina today? 1:25:27.225 --> 1:25:29.825 What's the temp there? Set? Seven seventy seven? Okay, good, 1:25:29.865 --> 1:25:31.065 all right? You said that? All right? 1:25:31.185 --> 1:25:33.745 Yeah, Simms Charlotte, Yes, or nice a. 1:25:33.785 --> 1:25:37.185 Little rain here and there, and see we're not getting 1:25:37.745 --> 1:25:39.305 we're not getting any of that. We're not getting any 1:25:39.305 --> 1:25:41.065 of that here, which is why we've got these brush 1:25:41.105 --> 1:25:43.385 fire warnings going on right now. They don't want you 1:25:43.505 --> 1:25:45.985 to even put fires on in your fire pits out 1:25:45.985 --> 1:25:48.185 and your you know, your back patio or anything you know, 1:25:48.305 --> 1:25:50.265 like a lot of people have, like I built during 1:25:50.345 --> 1:25:52.065 COVID and all that kind of stuff. They don't want 1:25:52.065 --> 1:25:54.345 you lighting fires because they're afraid of the sparks setting 1:25:54.385 --> 1:25:57.425 brush on fire. So okay, that's fine. We haven't had 1:25:57.505 --> 1:25:59.865 rain here in a month over a month. 1:26:00.025 --> 1:26:03.345 No, yeah, yeah, I'm raying to shoe. We got a 1:26:03.385 --> 1:26:08.385 good last week this week too. Yeah, so it's getting 1:26:08.505 --> 1:26:09.545 coming down pretty good here. 1:26:10.025 --> 1:26:10.225 Yeah. 1:26:11.145 --> 1:26:12.025 Green, can you bleed it? 1:26:12.905 --> 1:26:15.505 Yes? Mine still is too. I mean and I I've 1:26:15.545 --> 1:26:17.985 had a couple of freezes, a couple of frost. You know, 1:26:17.985 --> 1:26:19.105 when I get up in the morning, I'm like, whoa, 1:26:19.145 --> 1:26:21.025 it looks like it snowed because there's a cover of 1:26:21.105 --> 1:26:23.145 frost right on top of the of the lawn. But 1:26:23.585 --> 1:26:26.785 it hasn't killed everything off yet, so everything is still green, 1:26:26.905 --> 1:26:29.825 and and uh, you know, the color color is still beautiful. Hey, 1:26:29.865 --> 1:26:30.905 what's your hauling today? 1:26:32.505 --> 1:26:35.425 I'm off right now. I took an hour and a 1:26:35.425 --> 1:26:37.585 half lunch break and been to go home. Matter of fact, 1:26:37.625 --> 1:26:39.705 when I blew my horn, I was parking the truck 1:26:40.145 --> 1:26:41.785 hoping on the Boston come outside and looking like, what 1:26:41.865 --> 1:26:42.865 are you blowing the horn from me? 1:26:42.985 --> 1:26:43.145 Yeah? 1:26:44.665 --> 1:26:49.065 Hey, he's in trouble. Let's help them out. Yeah, yeah, somebody, 1:26:49.185 --> 1:26:51.185 somebody's trying to tell them if the Patriots are worth 1:26:51.225 --> 1:26:53.265 the damn. Oh, let's give him to some mouth. Well, okay, 1:26:54.785 --> 1:26:56.305 I get it, I get it. 1:26:56.385 --> 1:26:57.265 Yeah, that's true too. 1:26:57.585 --> 1:26:59.505 Do all of your friends and your family and the 1:26:59.545 --> 1:27:02.065 people that you work with, do they know how much 1:27:02.105 --> 1:27:04.665 of a die hard you are? Oh? 1:27:04.785 --> 1:27:07.585 Yes, sir. At first they thought I was joking and 1:27:07.865 --> 1:27:09.665 should have heard me a couple of times on the radio. 1:27:09.785 --> 1:27:11.665 Then I pay you back some of the podcast. Yeah, 1:27:12.465 --> 1:27:14.225 And then like I told him, I said, I've been 1:27:14.265 --> 1:27:16.945 doing fifteen years. They knew me by by name, yeah, 1:27:17.105 --> 1:27:19.705 only by face on face on the picture. But they 1:27:19.745 --> 1:27:23.345 haven't haven't met in person besides Melvin and you know, 1:27:24.105 --> 1:27:26.225 I like to meet met Trey. But one of the 1:27:26.305 --> 1:27:28.185 day to come to tennis. SI, I'm gonna look Tray 1:27:28.265 --> 1:27:30.305 up because uh used to be married to one of 1:27:30.345 --> 1:27:34.065 them missus girls. Oh yeah, yeah, yes, sir, that was 1:27:34.105 --> 1:27:34.985 my first ex wife. 1:27:37.025 --> 1:27:39.585 We all have We all have those. You know what, 1:27:39.665 --> 1:27:43.025 I would love, Eldred one day that me and you, 1:27:43.625 --> 1:27:46.585 Me and you and Trey and Melvin and anybody else 1:27:46.625 --> 1:27:48.545 that wants to join in. We got to get together 1:27:48.665 --> 1:27:50.185 and we got to strap on a feedback. 1:27:51.505 --> 1:27:52.785 I was glad. I would love to do that. 1:27:53.345 --> 1:27:56.305 So would I want to be here North Carolina or 1:27:56.385 --> 1:27:59.625 Memphis or Atlanta or now Boston. Don't gonna have a 1:27:59.665 --> 1:28:00.545 little problem getting now. 1:28:00.585 --> 1:28:02.945 I think I understand, I understand, but I don't. 1:28:02.985 --> 1:28:04.065 I don't time to get off. 1:28:04.225 --> 1:28:04.505 I don't. 1:28:04.545 --> 1:28:06.625 I don't mind meeting you guys south of the Mason 1:28:06.665 --> 1:28:07.385 Dixon I don't. 1:28:08.705 --> 1:28:12.105 Okay, Okay, So I'm looking forward to that too. 1:28:12.305 --> 1:28:14.465 Yeah, we got to do that. We have to. We 1:28:14.585 --> 1:28:16.105 have to talk that up and figure out a way 1:28:16.145 --> 1:28:17.585 to get that thing done. Brother, we do. 1:28:18.105 --> 1:28:21.225 Yeah. I got mad because I missed an opportunity with 1:28:21.465 --> 1:28:26.985 a big head and Paul and Fred and Eric back 1:28:27.025 --> 1:28:30.025 in the day when we played the Carolina Panthers here 1:28:30.185 --> 1:28:32.345 at the ticket just because me, we was gonna meet 1:28:32.385 --> 1:28:33.905 one day after the barrow or drink. 1:28:33.945 --> 1:28:35.945 So it never did get to do that. You know. 1:28:36.025 --> 1:28:40.745 That's when that's when Luke Lee passed in drunking end zone. 1:28:40.825 --> 1:28:43.385 Everybody saw it blatantly, but Carolina won the game. 1:28:44.585 --> 1:28:49.865 Yeah, yeah, I loved Still that's great, big head love it. 1:28:51.385 --> 1:28:53.905 Yeah all right, So what's trouble in you after this week? 1:28:55.705 --> 1:29:00.505 This week, I knew the beginning of the year. I remember, 1:29:00.545 --> 1:29:02.305 I told you if it's going to be a minute. 1:29:02.425 --> 1:29:05.625 You know, I give him a little minute. But everybody, 1:29:05.705 --> 1:29:08.145 you know, I've been saying this for ten to fifteen years. 1:29:08.425 --> 1:29:11.425 Letting you said, I always called the talent. And even 1:29:11.465 --> 1:29:13.505 when Bill was here, when we had Brady, you know, 1:29:13.985 --> 1:29:16.385 that's what Brady left in the nineteen because he had 1:29:16.465 --> 1:29:18.225 enough talent. You know, he could win no more year. 1:29:18.545 --> 1:29:21.065 He needed some help, Becauldn't you know he's forty needed 1:29:21.105 --> 1:29:26.745 some help. So what's the puzzling me is grow and 1:29:27.905 --> 1:29:30.585 Wolf was here when Bill was here. Yeah, and like 1:29:30.705 --> 1:29:34.025 I said during the draft, besides me, the drafting, the 1:29:34.065 --> 1:29:39.465 same player you gotta Osbourne, that's that's uh, the guy 1:29:39.545 --> 1:29:41.305 that can't catch now. 1:29:41.945 --> 1:29:46.065 You know from Washington you know yeah, Jayleno Polk, Jalen Polk, 1:29:46.185 --> 1:29:46.345 you know. 1:29:46.505 --> 1:29:48.505 So they you know, you got the same type of guy. 1:29:48.665 --> 1:29:51.185 Like I said, you need the athlete. That's why I 1:29:51.265 --> 1:29:55.705 wanted Mitchell. Uh uh, the guy from Jack the Jack Wars. 1:29:55.785 --> 1:29:59.145 There's Thomas that's doing real good right now. Or you know, 1:29:59.665 --> 1:30:02.545 I understand you need a quarterback first, but some of 1:30:02.585 --> 1:30:05.825 them other guys went after you got the quarterback, you know, 1:30:06.905 --> 1:30:10.545 and then you could have been aggressive and then you 1:30:10.665 --> 1:30:13.225 know what you inherit from Bill. The cover was always 1:30:13.345 --> 1:30:16.425 bare from the last five years. Sure you know the 1:30:16.545 --> 1:30:19.225 draft for you know, So to me, if you're gonna 1:30:19.265 --> 1:30:21.665 take old GM said, okay, it was mainly Bill making 1:30:21.705 --> 1:30:24.745 all the all the bad picks. I can't tell now 1:30:24.745 --> 1:30:28.385 because you pick it and just like him, you know. 1:30:28.545 --> 1:30:30.105 And then you say you don't go to pack them 1:30:30.225 --> 1:30:33.905 away with the wide receivers, Yeah, they six two, didn't 1:30:33.985 --> 1:30:36.825 range from four to three to four four maybe four 1:30:36.905 --> 1:30:40.305 or five speed. They can block whatever. You didn't do 1:30:40.425 --> 1:30:46.145 that here, you know, focus slow Baker, he's you know, 1:30:46.385 --> 1:30:48.265 I don't know what to make of him yet. 1:30:49.505 --> 1:30:52.225 You know we can't we can't. Yeah, we can't make 1:30:52.265 --> 1:30:56.265 a judgment. You can't make a judgment on any of 1:30:56.305 --> 1:30:56.745 these guys. 1:30:56.825 --> 1:31:01.505 Really, no, no, because that line won't let you do anything. 1:31:01.585 --> 1:31:04.945 But like I said, you the GM, you should already 1:31:04.985 --> 1:31:07.705 recognize the fault on this team. So if you ain't 1:31:07.705 --> 1:31:10.585 got no confound good line or left tackle, why you 1:31:10.665 --> 1:31:12.105 want to get somebody on the right, try to make 1:31:12.185 --> 1:31:15.145 him play left when they can't do it, or put 1:31:15.185 --> 1:31:17.145 yourself and rookie go to me. And that's bad GM, 1:31:19.305 --> 1:31:21.665 you know. And you said you donna fall behind your. 1:31:21.745 --> 1:31:23.545 Dad footstep or whatever. 1:31:24.185 --> 1:31:26.145 I don't think I remember seeing the Packers with a 1:31:26.185 --> 1:31:30.105 bad line, maybe a couple of years before Rogers left, 1:31:30.625 --> 1:31:32.385 But wasn't that they had pretty good run line, good 1:31:32.465 --> 1:31:37.345 line pass running, even with Far and H and everybody. 1:31:37.025 --> 1:31:37.665 Else, you know. 1:31:38.745 --> 1:31:41.105 So I just can't see that. And you see them 1:31:41.185 --> 1:31:45.785 the problems here, and I would have traded. I'd have 1:31:45.905 --> 1:31:51.185 kept it for six for the following year. That's dumb. 1:31:52.905 --> 1:31:55.145 That's dumb. I'm sorry, sir, I'm just calling what it is. 1:31:55.665 --> 1:31:59.385 That's dumb. We'll always get our pieces. I know they 1:31:59.465 --> 1:32:02.225 might be valuable for us, maybe not vau for somebody 1:32:02.305 --> 1:32:05.665 else we say left, but we go after their pieces 1:32:05.785 --> 1:32:08.105 high and their piece to be worse than what we got, 1:32:09.865 --> 1:32:12.945 you know. And then I see making a bunch of 1:32:12.985 --> 1:32:14.225 players Monday night. 1:32:15.305 --> 1:32:18.425 And ever now, yeah, I mean in a couple of tackles, 1:32:18.465 --> 1:32:21.065 but I mean he's being used as a situational player. 1:32:20.825 --> 1:32:22.065 And the situation player. 1:32:22.185 --> 1:32:23.985 Yeah, and we know he wasn't gonna be an every 1:32:24.025 --> 1:32:27.105 down guy, I know. Yeah, So I mean he's not down, no, 1:32:27.225 --> 1:32:29.145 which is why I think they found it. I think 1:32:29.145 --> 1:32:31.625 that's why they found him expendable in terms of well, 1:32:31.705 --> 1:32:33.745 we're probably not gonna resign this guy because he's not 1:32:33.865 --> 1:32:38.105 really what we need. So okay, I I can allow 1:32:38.185 --> 1:32:38.865 for that, I give him. 1:32:39.225 --> 1:32:43.465 Yeah, but I'm also ain't gonna ain't gonna kill him 1:32:43.505 --> 1:32:46.945 too bad. I'm gonna wait and see, you know, until, 1:32:46.985 --> 1:32:52.185 like like I said there before, May I got I gotta. 1:32:52.385 --> 1:32:54.585 I meant to tell Evan, I don't change my mind 1:32:54.625 --> 1:32:56.185 a little bit. Bro, You got me coming around a 1:32:56.225 --> 1:32:57.825 little bit more on. Maybe I want to go in 1:32:57.905 --> 1:33:00.505 there next week and get that truck and get that jersey. Okay, 1:33:00.865 --> 1:33:04.225 but like you know, you gotta show me, and he 1:33:04.305 --> 1:33:05.705 showed me a little bit. Still a little bit like 1:33:05.905 --> 1:33:08.905 North Carolina, but it's a little bit better than North Carolina. 1:33:08.985 --> 1:33:11.025 Listen the first time he took off, the first time 1:33:11.065 --> 1:33:14.105 he took off running with the football last week, And 1:33:14.225 --> 1:33:17.705 I'm like no, no, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, 1:33:17.865 --> 1:33:20.705 you know because because he's you know, first of all, 1:33:20.745 --> 1:33:23.545 I mean, he's coming off a concussion protocol and he's 1:33:23.545 --> 1:33:26.145 got to understand, you know, rookies have to understand. You know, guy, 1:33:26.545 --> 1:33:29.145 you gotta you gotta learn to protect yourself. This is 1:33:29.185 --> 1:33:33.785 a violent, violent, physical game. And he's like you know, 1:33:33.825 --> 1:33:35.665 I gotta make plays with my legs because I can 1:33:35.745 --> 1:33:38.225 for my team. And I'm like, that's a guy I 1:33:38.345 --> 1:33:40.505 can play with. That's a guy I can play four, 1:33:41.105 --> 1:33:42.505 you know. And one of the things that has been 1:33:42.505 --> 1:33:45.385 a big criticism of the Patriots, you know, over the 1:33:45.465 --> 1:33:47.665 last year or two is who do they have now 1:33:48.105 --> 1:33:51.745 that people want to come play with. They've found the guy. 1:33:52.385 --> 1:33:54.185 So now it's gonna be up to the veterans who 1:33:54.225 --> 1:33:56.385 are going to be on this team for any you know, 1:33:56.945 --> 1:33:59.545 next year or two or whoever it is, to be 1:33:59.785 --> 1:34:02.025 vocal about this and lead like this and go outad 1:34:02.065 --> 1:34:04.545 and recruit if they have to, just like if they're 1:34:04.625 --> 1:34:07.025 you know, out there recruiting for colleges, and just like 1:34:07.145 --> 1:34:09.625 they did when you know, they went out and tried 1:34:09.625 --> 1:34:11.425 to open up other free agent doors when you know 1:34:11.505 --> 1:34:14.065 TB twelve was playing here, Hey we got a guy 1:34:14.145 --> 1:34:15.985 here that you're gonna want to play with and play 1:34:16.105 --> 1:34:19.545 for and and so now it's now it's time to 1:34:20.025 --> 1:34:22.505 start looking at it in that respect. And to me, 1:34:23.665 --> 1:34:26.025 I know, they lost the game. They probably shouldn't have 1:34:26.065 --> 1:34:28.065 lost the game. It might have been a little mismanaged 1:34:28.105 --> 1:34:31.425 down at the end, but that's my My big huge 1:34:31.505 --> 1:34:37.145 takeaway from Tennessee was I saw a spark that frankly, 1:34:38.665 --> 1:34:41.105 I think we can you know that we can. We 1:34:41.185 --> 1:34:42.985 can hang on, Yeah, give you something to deal with. 1:34:43.265 --> 1:34:49.025 Yes, yes, but but uh, mister rook, mister legend, we're 1:34:49.025 --> 1:34:51.465 gonna always be on demand because out of town level 1:34:51.905 --> 1:34:53.825 don't meet everybody that we play. 1:34:55.105 --> 1:34:57.105 No, it doesn't. That's and that's why you're losing games. 1:34:57.465 --> 1:35:00.105 That's the major problem. Yeah, that's the major problem. 1:35:00.545 --> 1:35:01.305 That's why you're losing. 1:35:01.825 --> 1:35:03.545 Might be yes, the govenment might. 1:35:03.465 --> 1:35:05.545 Be a great desp of mind, but you ain't got 1:35:05.545 --> 1:35:08.145 the right people to do it, you know. And then, 1:35:08.905 --> 1:35:10.785 like I said, that's called what he was left with. 1:35:11.545 --> 1:35:15.185 And then you lost your three main ones, traded off 1:35:15.305 --> 1:35:18.145 one good one. I know he was older, you know, Judie, 1:35:18.265 --> 1:35:21.105 but I think I would held on one more year, 1:35:21.385 --> 1:35:24.065 just just to see what was going on. But then again, 1:35:24.185 --> 1:35:29.105 I'm not JM. But with me, I will try to 1:35:29.105 --> 1:35:31.385 beat the books, try to get me service for left 1:35:31.425 --> 1:35:33.665 tackle that I know you can't get a good one 1:35:33.825 --> 1:35:36.225 right off the bat. But I ain't going up to 1:35:36.345 --> 1:35:39.545 praps peak. I'm going after somebody that got the stuck 1:35:39.625 --> 1:35:42.105 a string maybe whatever they've got a little talent they 1:35:42.105 --> 1:35:44.905 ain't playing and got still on the younger contract. 1:35:45.385 --> 1:35:46.345 Let's see what you got here. 1:35:46.425 --> 1:35:49.785 And just like Paul was saying, I either going up 1:35:49.825 --> 1:35:54.985 to Slaton or Jadon Jaydon Miles. What uh where that 1:35:55.105 --> 1:35:58.065 wide receiver from Tennessee with the Giants that got knocked 1:35:58.065 --> 1:36:03.345 down because neighbors the man now and Jalen Hight excuse 1:36:03.345 --> 1:36:08.105 me him, that name scoot Yatt and that brought least 1:36:08.865 --> 1:36:12.025 they are exits because we got twos and threes over it. 1:36:12.105 --> 1:36:14.785 We ain't got no x booty trying to be but 1:36:15.065 --> 1:36:21.065 you know, uh, I tried somebody else, special slate, special slate. 1:36:21.305 --> 1:36:23.985 I already did that draft and just see and he 1:36:24.105 --> 1:36:27.065 got eight games. If that's not the guy, well you 1:36:27.145 --> 1:36:28.345 know we still draft one. 1:36:29.185 --> 1:36:32.145 I didn't have him for I think that's exactly Eldred 1:36:32.225 --> 1:36:35.985 why they didn't make deals by the trade deadline, because 1:36:35.985 --> 1:36:38.665 I really felt strongly they wanted to see more of 1:36:38.785 --> 1:36:40.705 what they had to so they could make an easier 1:36:40.745 --> 1:36:42.825 decision on whether or not to bring him back or 1:36:42.865 --> 1:36:43.305 cut bait. 1:36:45.105 --> 1:36:48.185 I understand that, but sir, it's okay, you got a 1:36:48.265 --> 1:36:49.785 young Well the line is. 1:36:49.985 --> 1:36:52.665 The other problem. It's the major problem. 1:36:53.265 --> 1:36:55.985 And then sometimes, like I said, you know, you see 1:36:56.025 --> 1:36:57.825 the guys they get on sometimes they can't get over 1:36:58.145 --> 1:37:00.345 all depends on whose that corner is. They're not good. 1:37:00.385 --> 1:37:03.265 They can press to get gainst their cheam, and I 1:37:03.345 --> 1:37:06.145 think this week they're gonna have a problem getting loose 1:37:06.785 --> 1:37:09.385 with that secondary for the Bears. 1:37:10.225 --> 1:37:12.225 But you know, it's the it's the talent graph. 1:37:12.305 --> 1:37:14.665 You know, we ain't got that speed guy, you know 1:37:14.905 --> 1:37:18.225 like Arizona had. You know, I think my boy got hurt. 1:37:18.425 --> 1:37:20.745 Harrison got hurt in that game a little bit, you know, 1:37:20.905 --> 1:37:22.225 but he was torching so the other. 1:37:22.145 --> 1:37:23.425 Guys, but they got speed. 1:37:23.905 --> 1:37:26.145 Hey, Eldred, here's one for you. I just got this 1:37:26.385 --> 1:37:31.985 this tweet from NFL Stats Drake Drake May is the 1:37:32.105 --> 1:37:35.225 first quarterback in NFL history to have all of the 1:37:35.345 --> 1:37:39.505 following stats in his first four career games. First four 1:37:39.585 --> 1:37:42.145 career stats all right, here we go. Seven hundred plus 1:37:42.265 --> 1:37:48.505 passing yards, sixty completion or better, six plus passing touchdowns, 1:37:49.065 --> 1:37:53.225 two hundred plus rushing yards, and one or more rushing tds. 1:37:53.625 --> 1:37:57.305 He's the first quarterback in NFL history to have those 1:37:57.345 --> 1:37:59.225 stats in his first four games. 1:38:00.705 --> 1:38:02.825 Well to having I get that jersey Friday. 1:38:03.385 --> 1:38:03.705 There you go. 1:38:03.865 --> 1:38:06.865 I put a picture on the play, I mean on 1:38:06.985 --> 1:38:08.505 the Should I ask him that network? 1:38:08.865 --> 1:38:10.825 Should I ask the Patriots for a little commission for 1:38:10.905 --> 1:38:11.865 selling him on that jersey? 1:38:11.945 --> 1:38:12.065 Now? 1:38:15.025 --> 1:38:15.465 Good luck? 1:38:15.785 --> 1:38:18.585 Yeah, because I was the big giftic well I saw 1:38:18.665 --> 1:38:20.905 in North Carolina. But I feel a little bit more of. 1:38:20.945 --> 1:38:22.705 A different if game go on. 1:38:22.985 --> 1:38:25.225 Yeah, you know, but then I gotta remember he was 1:38:25.265 --> 1:38:28.825 the kids playing over here nineteen twenty. You know, it's 1:38:28.825 --> 1:38:31.105 a little bit more mature. But he's getting it. But 1:38:31.145 --> 1:38:32.745 I like that what he said the last time. I'm 1:38:32.745 --> 1:38:34.945 gonna keep playing right, but I'm gonna come it down 1:38:34.945 --> 1:38:37.425 a little bit. But you know that's what I want 1:38:37.425 --> 1:38:38.465 to hear from quarterback too. 1:38:38.705 --> 1:38:41.145 Yep, I agree with you. You know, all right, buddy, 1:38:41.465 --> 1:38:42.705 you'd be safe out there, my man. 1:38:42.785 --> 1:38:44.585 Get jersey, all right, go get it. 1:38:45.065 --> 1:38:46.825 Go get it? Yes, sir, all right, I need you 1:38:46.945 --> 1:38:48.545 just you'll need to send me a picture of you 1:38:48.705 --> 1:38:52.185 in it. 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How are you man, I'm good. 1:40:18.105 --> 1:40:19.545 I'm sorry I missed you last week. 1:40:19.745 --> 1:40:23.265 Yeah, but that's okay. Listen, family comes first, and I failed. 1:40:23.705 --> 1:40:23.825 Uh. 1:40:24.465 --> 1:40:26.225 The one thing that I really missed out on was 1:40:26.265 --> 1:40:28.905 to talk to you about our favorite call, Halloween candies again, 1:40:29.065 --> 1:40:29.305 did you? 1:40:29.465 --> 1:40:29.665 Did you? 1:40:29.705 --> 1:40:29.945 Guys? 1:40:30.225 --> 1:40:30.305 Uh? 1:40:30.385 --> 1:40:33.465 You know have a big crowd at the Baxter household. 1:40:33.785 --> 1:40:36.985 No, you know, we do not. And for this reason, 1:40:37.105 --> 1:40:39.825 I live in the area which is very nice in Cheshire. 1:40:40.225 --> 1:40:43.465 There's no sidewalks in front of my house. The ants 1:40:43.465 --> 1:40:47.945 are very hesitant about bringing the kids over too, you know. 1:40:48.065 --> 1:40:50.225 And that's the fact that they have a changeaw out front. 1:40:50.465 --> 1:40:52.625 They probably disparages them out a little as well. 1:40:54.185 --> 1:40:54.585 Not really. 1:40:55.865 --> 1:40:59.785 That's a friend of mine of Frank, years and years ago, 1:41:00.505 --> 1:41:02.585 when a bunch of kids came out of his house, 1:41:03.225 --> 1:41:07.865 well snarky attitude and the kids and he had kin 1:41:07.985 --> 1:41:12.985 saw in his living room with the blade out. Okay, 1:41:13.025 --> 1:41:16.505 but it's still it's still made the noise, oh okay, Okay. 1:41:17.065 --> 1:41:19.785 So when they came up with the attitude, he read 1:41:19.905 --> 1:41:22.145 that thing up and all I can tell you is 1:41:22.185 --> 1:41:24.385 that I saw three of those kids in the Olympics. 1:41:25.545 --> 1:41:28.225 The fuck a couple of years down the road, that's 1:41:28.265 --> 1:41:29.985 how fast they moved moved out. 1:41:29.865 --> 1:41:38.705 Of that out, all right, jeez, fast enough? So what 1:41:38.905 --> 1:41:40.105 what what was that? What did you say? 1:41:40.705 --> 1:41:43.345 It's a safe formless prank, no to get good because 1:41:43.345 --> 1:41:44.225 there was no play. 1:41:44.065 --> 1:41:48.385 Involved, right right? Okay, that makes sense to me. All right, 1:41:49.025 --> 1:41:52.865 so you know how our situation is here is clearly 1:41:52.945 --> 1:41:54.585 you know that. You know, we got a bunch of 1:41:54.665 --> 1:41:56.625 teams that are all kind of stacked with two wins 1:41:57.425 --> 1:41:59.105 right now at the bottom of the NFL. If the 1:41:59.305 --> 1:42:01.465 draft were to be tomorrow, the Patriots would hold the 1:42:01.625 --> 1:42:03.945 number one pick, which is great, but I'm not so 1:42:04.065 --> 1:42:06.025 sure that's going to hold. Uh and we get a 1:42:06.065 --> 1:42:07.985 long way to go before we get to next April. 1:42:08.465 --> 1:42:10.625 What what do you find that a lot of teams 1:42:10.705 --> 1:42:13.905 that find themselves at this position. We're just now past 1:42:13.985 --> 1:42:16.785 the halfway point in the NFL season. But let's say 1:42:16.825 --> 1:42:19.625 they're two and six, two and seven somewhere around those 1:42:19.905 --> 1:42:23.265 and clearly you know that range the playoffs are really 1:42:23.385 --> 1:42:28.305 not an option. What should teams be doing? And traditionally, 1:42:28.785 --> 1:42:32.985 what do teams in your estimation who turn it around quickly? 1:42:33.505 --> 1:42:35.705 What do they do at this stage of the game 1:42:36.185 --> 1:42:37.425 when they are two and seven? 1:42:37.905 --> 1:42:39.585 Well, first thing I think you need to do is 1:42:39.665 --> 1:42:43.665 take a very very close look at what your situation is. 1:42:44.065 --> 1:42:47.105 Just because you are two and seven or four and 1:42:47.305 --> 1:42:52.545 five or four and four doesn't mean necessarily do It 1:42:52.665 --> 1:42:55.905 depends on what's going on within your own division. It 1:42:56.025 --> 1:42:58.425 depends on what's going on within the conference. Now, we 1:42:58.585 --> 1:43:01.425 have a lot of two win teams this year, two 1:43:01.465 --> 1:43:03.985 win or three win teams. I mean, as I pointed 1:43:04.025 --> 1:43:06.185 out Buffalo as the venue wins and the other three 1:43:06.225 --> 1:43:09.985 teams in the AFC is combined seven. So then when 1:43:09.985 --> 1:43:14.705 you get down to other divisions where teams aren't necessarily 1:43:14.785 --> 1:43:17.105 wrapping in the field, and so I mean, look at 1:43:17.145 --> 1:43:20.025 Arizona in the NFC West, they're five and four, start hearting. 1:43:20.425 --> 1:43:23.105 No one else is above five hundred, so that division 1:43:23.185 --> 1:43:28.985 is very very much up for grabs. Chicago is very intriguing. 1:43:29.225 --> 1:43:31.625 They're four and four, they're in last place. They haven't 1:43:31.625 --> 1:43:35.305 played anybody in the division yet, so they can they 1:43:35.425 --> 1:43:39.545 kind of hold the cards in terms of determining their 1:43:39.585 --> 1:43:41.425 own fate. Let's say they go four and two in 1:43:41.505 --> 1:43:44.185 the division and so on. That's why Green Bay's sitting 1:43:44.225 --> 1:43:47.425 there at five and at six and three, John but 1:43:47.585 --> 1:43:50.265 yet they've lost two divisional games at home to Minnesota 1:43:50.345 --> 1:43:53.305 and Detroit, so they've kind of boxed themselves in the 1:43:53.345 --> 1:43:56.025 Little Borough corner. So I think you have to just 1:43:56.145 --> 1:43:58.905 evalue this situation. And also it depends on who your 1:43:58.985 --> 1:44:01.865 general manager and how the organization is run, if you're 1:44:01.905 --> 1:44:06.545 willing to cut beat, start selling those players and so on. 1:44:07.625 --> 1:44:09.425 You know, you get the sense of the Cleveland Brands 1:44:09.465 --> 1:44:11.545 over the last couple of weeks. The area is that 1:44:12.185 --> 1:44:15.985 Zadarius Smith yesterday, Amari people a couple of weeks ago. 1:44:17.305 --> 1:44:19.425 You know, they've done themselves a big hole. They've already 1:44:19.505 --> 1:44:22.145 lost more games than they did all last year when 1:44:22.145 --> 1:44:25.305 they were eleven and six, and they're in a powerhouse division, 1:44:26.025 --> 1:44:28.505 even though Cincinnati is at four and five in Pittsburgh 1:44:28.545 --> 1:44:32.425 and Baltimore off to a tremendous start. So I think 1:44:32.465 --> 1:44:37.545 it's an individual thing more than anything else. You know, 1:44:37.585 --> 1:44:40.945 you're looking at the Raiders who are chasing three teams 1:44:40.945 --> 1:44:46.385 that are all above five hundred. So again, a two 1:44:46.465 --> 1:44:48.945 and seven or a three and six in one division 1:44:49.065 --> 1:44:52.985 may not necessarily be the same as in other divisions. 1:44:53.025 --> 1:44:55.905 That might sound like an easy answer, but as we know, 1:44:56.225 --> 1:44:58.185 all you got to do is get in. Yeah, and 1:44:58.305 --> 1:45:00.305 who knows what can happen in terms of the post. 1:45:00.065 --> 1:45:02.705 Team, Yeah, right right. I got a few teams that 1:45:02.705 --> 1:45:04.185 don't want to ask you about this week. Then the 1:45:04.225 --> 1:45:06.825 first one are the is the eight to no Kansas 1:45:06.865 --> 1:45:11.025 City Chiefs? When and where in your estimation do the 1:45:11.145 --> 1:45:14.705 Chiefs stumble first this year or do they at all? 1:45:16.865 --> 1:45:19.345 Well, I mean if they've been a high wire act. 1:45:19.625 --> 1:45:22.945 They finally scored thirty points in the game. Yeah, we'll 1:45:22.985 --> 1:45:25.385 think was the first time since we twelve of last year. 1:45:27.345 --> 1:45:30.945 But they've won fourteen games in a row and now 1:45:31.025 --> 1:45:34.265 they're still ways away. They're two thirds of the way there. 1:45:34.345 --> 1:45:36.185 But I don't have to remind you. There are two 1:45:36.345 --> 1:45:39.585 NFL records in terms of winning streaks in NFL history 1:45:39.905 --> 1:45:45.985 most regular season wins, which is the Colts twenty three 1:45:46.025 --> 1:45:51.185 in a row, and then there's the Patriots in a 1:45:51.345 --> 1:45:56.465 row which includes the postseason. And remember twenty years ago 1:45:56.505 --> 1:46:00.865 in Halloween they lost at Pittsburgh. They eventually went back 1:46:00.905 --> 1:46:02.865 to Pittsburgh to beat them in the AFC title Game. 1:46:04.505 --> 1:46:09.265 How fun would this be and how ironic if the Patriots. 1:46:09.305 --> 1:46:12.345 If the Chiefs win their next seven games, they will 1:46:12.505 --> 1:46:17.945 tie the record by the Patriots the most overall consecutive wins. 1:46:18.425 --> 1:46:21.345 One do you know where they go for game number 1:46:21.385 --> 1:46:28.465 twenty two, Pittsburgh Wow, Karma and instead of Halloween, instead 1:46:28.465 --> 1:46:31.465 of Halloween, John, It's going to be Chris us Wow. 1:46:32.785 --> 1:46:35.585 Twenty years later that. I mean, it's a long way 1:46:35.625 --> 1:46:38.145 to go. I know the Chiefs still have Buffalo on 1:46:38.265 --> 1:46:41.945 the schedule, which they've kind of owned. But you know, 1:46:42.065 --> 1:46:45.225 you look at the makeup of this Chiefs team, which, 1:46:45.265 --> 1:46:49.505 by the way, DeAndre Hopkins has certainly made a difference. 1:46:49.585 --> 1:46:53.465 Travis Kelsey won fourteen passes the other day. Okay, so 1:46:54.705 --> 1:46:57.105 Kareem Hunt getting settled in with his old team and 1:46:57.185 --> 1:46:58.825 one of us womb the Chiefs and led the league 1:46:58.825 --> 1:47:02.825 in Russian years ago with the Chiefs, which was treating 1:47:02.825 --> 1:47:08.665 the homes, I believe. So, I don't know, They've got 1:47:08.785 --> 1:47:12.105 this uncanny way of winning games, which is not that 1:47:12.265 --> 1:47:14.785 unusual if you remember the Patriots of the early dynasty 1:47:14.905 --> 1:47:17.625 days in the early two thousands, where you know, they 1:47:17.745 --> 1:47:19.785 all three of their Super Bowl wins were by a 1:47:19.865 --> 1:47:23.785 field goal and many they just were smarter than everybody else. 1:47:23.865 --> 1:47:26.785 Right now, the Chiefs looked like a very smart football team, 1:47:28.025 --> 1:47:30.145 taking care of the ball at times. Patrick Holmes said 1:47:30.185 --> 1:47:33.505 have been super sharp, and he's been super timely. And 1:47:34.585 --> 1:47:36.785 I understand, you know, Todd Bowles got a lot of 1:47:36.825 --> 1:47:40.105 crap this week about not going for two, but I 1:47:40.225 --> 1:47:41.705 know if you would have missed the two, they would 1:47:41.745 --> 1:47:43.425 have you know, they would have given them crap for 1:47:43.465 --> 1:47:47.185 that too. So it's hard to tell because it's not 1:47:47.345 --> 1:47:50.385 like you can point to the Chiefs and say, you know, 1:47:50.505 --> 1:47:53.465 they've been lighted out in the Even their defense this year, 1:47:53.505 --> 1:47:57.065 which is still very very good, has shown some words. 1:47:57.105 --> 1:47:59.025 I mean, Tampa Bay really didn't have any problems to 1:47:59.065 --> 1:48:00.705 move in the football up and down the field on 1:48:00.785 --> 1:48:04.345 the on day. So I think this is a vulnerable team, 1:48:04.385 --> 1:48:08.145 but it's a resourceful team. So you know that's me 1:48:08.225 --> 1:48:12.185 in seventh seventh week, I would but I'm guessing the 1:48:12.265 --> 1:48:15.625 Buffalo game has certainly got a bit on the radar. 1:48:15.745 --> 1:48:18.545 And I'll also throw out the fact that and I'm 1:48:18.585 --> 1:48:20.585 trying to right to look at the schedule, I don't 1:48:20.985 --> 1:48:24.185 think they closed it Denver. That would be interesting because 1:48:24.945 --> 1:48:28.305 if you were they played Denver this week, okay, and 1:48:28.385 --> 1:48:33.385 then last year they got humbled by the Broncos in Denver, 1:48:34.225 --> 1:48:36.665 and that's where they are. They closed the season at 1:48:36.785 --> 1:48:41.225 Denver and Denver beaten twenty four to nine. Last year, 1:48:41.665 --> 1:48:45.265 Denver snapped a fifteen game losing streak to the Chiefs 1:48:46.305 --> 1:48:49.425 when they knocked the moves in this game. So again, 1:48:49.905 --> 1:48:52.745 it's going to be fascinating to see how this unfold. 1:48:53.425 --> 1:48:55.345 But I will say that if we have seen teams. 1:48:55.905 --> 1:48:59.385 It happened with the Patriots one year, it happened with 1:48:59.465 --> 1:49:02.225 the Steelers four years ago. Some of these teams get 1:49:02.385 --> 1:49:06.545 up to ten and oh elevens start and for whatever reason, 1:49:06.665 --> 1:49:10.305 when I'm at a gas and you know, things certainly 1:49:10.345 --> 1:49:12.305 don't go their way. That's why to me, it's always 1:49:12.345 --> 1:49:16.385 interesting see the team rip off along losing street and 1:49:16.465 --> 1:49:19.425 then when they finally lose, John, see how they react 1:49:19.465 --> 1:49:23.865 to week after that, because one loss to become three 1:49:23.985 --> 1:49:27.425 losses in a row. Real real quickly saw the Vikings 1:49:27.745 --> 1:49:29.425 who went five to oh and then in the span 1:49:29.505 --> 1:49:30.785 of five days games. 1:49:30.985 --> 1:49:33.505 Yeah. Right, the other team that I wanted to ask 1:49:33.505 --> 1:49:38.265 you about, Russell of the Washington Commanders, to me, I mean, 1:49:38.305 --> 1:49:40.785 I didn't see this coming. Seven and two. They're at 1:49:40.825 --> 1:49:42.945 home against the Steelers, who you've already talked a little 1:49:42.945 --> 1:49:46.185 bit about. Uh, I mean, and certainly Jayden Daniels has 1:49:46.185 --> 1:49:49.705 been a catalyst here. But what else has Washington done 1:49:49.825 --> 1:49:54.465 really to you know, establish themselves within the NFC East. 1:49:55.905 --> 1:49:59.025 Well, the one thing that they've basically done better than 1:49:59.185 --> 1:50:01.345 any other team in the league is take care of 1:50:01.385 --> 1:50:06.705 the football. Okay, they have now going nine games into 1:50:06.745 --> 1:50:09.545 the season, yep, and you've turned over the ball three times. 1:50:09.585 --> 1:50:11.585 That's amazing. That is amazing. 1:50:11.865 --> 1:50:14.145 That's amazing that in the context the Patriots has three 1:50:14.185 --> 1:50:15.865 turnovers last week again Tennessee. 1:50:16.145 --> 1:50:19.145 I'm just saying, I mean, that's that's that's attention to detail, 1:50:19.745 --> 1:50:23.825 that's discipline, that's everything that the Patriots have had struggles 1:50:23.905 --> 1:50:26.545 with this year. But Washington has it, and you can 1:50:26.625 --> 1:50:29.825 see what a huge difference it has made in the 1:50:29.905 --> 1:50:31.945 over we all win lost fortunes of their team. 1:50:32.465 --> 1:50:35.145 No doubt. And this was the team last year that 1:50:35.945 --> 1:50:37.905 gave up the third most points in one season in 1:50:38.105 --> 1:50:41.465 NFL history and turned over the ball thirty two times 1:50:41.745 --> 1:50:46.585 in seventeen games. So this is a completely different. If 1:50:46.665 --> 1:50:51.065 I want to say the Saints three or four years ago, 1:50:52.265 --> 1:50:54.825 or maybe even longer ago, that set the NFL record 1:50:55.665 --> 1:50:58.065 for fewest turnovers to the season, I think it was 1:50:58.145 --> 1:51:01.105 either eight or nine, and then as if they're going 1:51:01.145 --> 1:51:03.025 to happen, they wound up to over the ball twice 1:51:03.065 --> 1:51:04.985 and lonched the Minnesota and the wild Carts to pay 1:51:05.025 --> 1:51:10.105 off an overtime. So yeah, that a very balanced offense. 1:51:10.185 --> 1:51:12.665 That's not Paul Jayden games. As we found out when 1:51:13.585 --> 1:51:16.625 he heard his arrabe a couple of weeks ago. Marcus 1:51:16.705 --> 1:51:20.465 Mariotas stepped in and they were on prodge control. They 1:51:20.505 --> 1:51:23.585 have proven they can win ugly, and they have proved 1:51:23.625 --> 1:51:26.265 then they can win lopsided. Now I will say this, 1:51:27.585 --> 1:51:29.745 they still haven't played Dallas. I know Dallas has down 1:51:29.825 --> 1:51:32.425 in the luck but still rivalry game. They've not played 1:51:32.465 --> 1:51:36.505 Philadelphia yet, so it's going to be interesting. You know, 1:51:36.785 --> 1:51:39.545 Washington and Arizona are just like the latest examples of 1:51:39.625 --> 1:51:42.865 teams that finished last place a year ago and now 1:51:42.945 --> 1:51:46.425 all of a sudden in convention for a playoff or 1:51:46.505 --> 1:51:49.385 a division title. Remember last year it was the Texans 1:51:49.425 --> 1:51:52.025 and the Browns who were in last place. In twenty 1:51:52.185 --> 1:51:55.185 twenty two, they both bounced back made their playoffs. In fact, 1:51:55.185 --> 1:51:58.785 Houston won the AFC South and then beat Cleveland in 1:51:58.865 --> 1:52:02.305 the wildcard game. And a couple of years ago, you know, Obviously, 1:52:02.385 --> 1:52:05.385 there's eight last place teams john four of them in 1:52:05.505 --> 1:52:07.385 one year made the playoffs the following year. 1:52:08.985 --> 1:52:11.625 I asked these questions, Russell, because I'm trying to give 1:52:11.625 --> 1:52:16.225 people some hope or at the very least discover how 1:52:16.265 --> 1:52:17.945 it's being done. So that could be a part of 1:52:17.985 --> 1:52:20.265 the template for you know, next year and beyond. 1:52:20.345 --> 1:52:22.225 You know, well, you know what you know would have 1:52:22.265 --> 1:52:25.865 been a good segment. It would have been with all 1:52:25.945 --> 1:52:28.825 the with all the respective faith was producing the show today, 1:52:28.825 --> 1:52:29.305 you could. 1:52:29.105 --> 1:52:35.745 Have had hope and fake oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 1:52:34.625 --> 1:52:39.665 For sure. All right, two other quick teams. Lions have 1:52:39.865 --> 1:52:43.625 to be I mean to me right now, to me, 1:52:43.745 --> 1:52:45.425 I think they're the best team in football. They may 1:52:46.145 --> 1:52:47.785 very well not be, but we don't know that. But 1:52:48.025 --> 1:52:50.065 they're certainly one of the easiest teams to root for 1:52:50.585 --> 1:52:52.825 because they've never been to the big game. And I 1:52:52.945 --> 1:52:55.425 certainly can understand why people want to get a little 1:52:55.465 --> 1:52:57.505 bit on that bandwagon. And you're talking about a team 1:52:57.705 --> 1:52:59.265 that was going through a lot of the same stuff 1:52:59.425 --> 1:53:01.385 just a couple of years ago and now they're one 1:53:01.425 --> 1:53:03.825 of the best in pro football. What is it about 1:53:03.945 --> 1:53:07.505 Dan Campbell though, that you've seen that has really caught 1:53:07.585 --> 1:53:10.905 on maybe with his team. I mean, I know they 1:53:10.985 --> 1:53:14.505 have talent, and it's really hard to beat talent, but 1:53:14.585 --> 1:53:16.945 they seem to have the intangibles in place as well. 1:53:19.185 --> 1:53:22.145 I think it's an orthodox style of coaching in terms 1:53:22.145 --> 1:53:24.625 of what he has to say to the media, biting kneecaps, 1:53:24.665 --> 1:53:28.545 which I think is a crime. But I think the 1:53:28.745 --> 1:53:33.065 fact that he rallied to round his own players and 1:53:33.265 --> 1:53:36.585 believes in them, I think is very contagious for an 1:53:36.705 --> 1:53:39.745 organization that is the only team in the NFC that's 1:53:39.785 --> 1:53:42.185 never been to the Super Bowl. The other three teams 1:53:42.225 --> 1:53:44.345 that have ever been to the Super Bowl Houston, Jacksonville, 1:53:44.385 --> 1:53:47.785 and Cleveland. So you have to go back to nineteen 1:53:47.985 --> 1:53:51.425 fifty seven, which is two years before I was born, 1:53:51.465 --> 1:53:53.545 and I tell you something, and the last time the 1:53:53.705 --> 1:53:58.185 Lions won an NFL title. It would be fun to 1:53:58.225 --> 1:54:00.785 see the lines in the super Bowl and maybe against 1:54:00.825 --> 1:54:04.025 the team in the AFC that's never been there, although 1:54:04.305 --> 1:54:06.425 you know, could it be Houston or be a team 1:54:06.505 --> 1:54:09.865 that you know, like say Buffalo with them but he's 1:54:09.945 --> 1:54:12.625 never won the Super Bowl. I think that would attract 1:54:13.065 --> 1:54:15.585 a lot of attention. And would you know, with the 1:54:15.665 --> 1:54:18.465 Lions and the build it's two very very you know, 1:54:19.745 --> 1:54:22.745 one groups fighting kneecaps, the other one is jumping on 1:54:23.065 --> 1:54:27.305 folding tables. Yeah, I mean, what more can you get 1:54:27.345 --> 1:54:30.625 than that? That would be for a fun And by 1:54:30.705 --> 1:54:33.745 the way, could you imagine those two fan bases in 1:54:33.865 --> 1:54:34.385 New Orleans? 1:54:34.545 --> 1:54:36.065 That would be off the hook? In New Orleans that 1:54:36.145 --> 1:54:38.065 totally would be off the hook. And I'm I'm kind 1:54:38.105 --> 1:54:40.385 of personally right now at this stage, I'm rooting for 1:54:40.665 --> 1:54:43.385 Detroit Buffalo. I kind of am, and that not because 1:54:43.425 --> 1:54:45.385 I'm anti Chiefs or anything, but I'm just kind of 1:54:45.465 --> 1:54:48.105 rooting for you know, hey, somebody's got to win the 1:54:48.185 --> 1:54:50.065 damn thing, and somebody who hadn't won it before is 1:54:50.105 --> 1:54:51.945 gonna win it, which is actually pretty cool. 1:54:52.665 --> 1:54:55.225 You watch the Arnans play. I mean, you know, power 1:54:55.305 --> 1:54:58.225 rankings on the side. Obviously the Chiefs there right now, yep, 1:54:58.945 --> 1:55:01.505 and the Lions are for seventy one. They don't have 1:55:01.585 --> 1:55:07.585 the semement loss, right, Yeah, but Detroit's point differential, it's 1:55:07.665 --> 1:55:12.505 already one hundred and ten plus. Okay. Yeah, you know, 1:55:12.585 --> 1:55:17.065 they stubbed their toasted whom against the Buccaneers back in 1:55:17.145 --> 1:55:19.305 Week two. They've won six games in a row. We 1:55:19.385 --> 1:55:22.145 won many of them by by double digits. We saw 1:55:22.225 --> 1:55:25.905 that they did, you know, to the Cowboys. We saw 1:55:25.945 --> 1:55:30.105 that they did to the Titans last week. They were tied, 1:55:30.265 --> 1:55:32.625 but the Titans fourteen fourteen and then scored the last 1:55:32.665 --> 1:55:36.185 thirty eight points of the game. They went into Green 1:55:36.305 --> 1:55:39.545 Bay last week and supposedly the Lions don't play well outdoors. 1:55:39.585 --> 1:55:41.665 I think it was their first outdoors that not only 1:55:41.825 --> 1:55:44.185 was it outdoors, it was in the rain, and they 1:55:44.265 --> 1:55:47.185 won that game by ten and then you know, did 1:55:47.265 --> 1:55:49.865 it with offense defense They got to pick sick. So 1:55:50.345 --> 1:55:52.865 I think this is the team playing with an enormous 1:55:52.905 --> 1:55:55.305 amount of confidence. They have a tricky game with the 1:55:55.385 --> 1:55:59.785 Texans this week. But for a team like Houston who 1:55:59.825 --> 1:56:01.545 has given up a slew of sacks and we saw 1:56:01.625 --> 1:56:04.985 eight saxophones on c J Shoud on Thursday night against 1:56:05.025 --> 1:56:08.705 the Jets, you lose Aiden Hutchinson to an injury, you 1:56:08.825 --> 1:56:10.745 swing a deal and you get sa Darius Smith from 1:56:10.785 --> 1:56:11.225 the grounds. 1:56:11.385 --> 1:56:13.545 Right the final team, I'm going to ask you about 1:56:13.825 --> 1:56:17.265 the Dallas Cowboys three and five, which to me is 1:56:17.305 --> 1:56:20.625 a stunner. But I'm wondering if it gets much worse 1:56:20.665 --> 1:56:23.305 than where it is right now. Is Mike McCarthy a 1:56:23.425 --> 1:56:25.785 candidate to be the next in season guy to go 1:56:25.945 --> 1:56:31.025 since the Saints made of firing this week when we. 1:56:31.065 --> 1:56:33.825 Saw the Jets make a fire firing earlier this season, is. 1:56:33.985 --> 1:56:36.945 Right, right, So that's two, so he'd be three. Yeah right. 1:56:37.025 --> 1:56:42.105 I'm trying to think the last time, the last time 1:56:42.185 --> 1:56:44.665 Jerry Jones did an in season firing, in fact, it 1:56:44.785 --> 1:56:46.505 might have been the only time he did an in 1:56:46.785 --> 1:56:51.505 season was when he dumped Wade Phillips. Okay, he said 1:56:51.585 --> 1:56:54.265 Jason Garrett right off the top of my head, and yeah. 1:56:54.145 --> 1:56:55.665 No, I think you're no, No, no, I think you're 1:56:55.705 --> 1:56:57.505 right there. I was just gonna say, I know it 1:56:57.625 --> 1:56:59.425 wasn't early in his tenure. I want to say that 1:56:59.545 --> 1:57:00.625 was Jason Garrett. Yeah. 1:57:00.945 --> 1:57:03.345 Well, I know this. It's going to take a hell 1:57:03.385 --> 1:57:05.945 of one the Cowboys to go twelve and five. Yeah, 1:57:06.025 --> 1:57:10.065 for the fourth consecutive season. And it's it's interesting. And again, 1:57:10.145 --> 1:57:13.345 no one's been eliminated yet. Okay, obviously they have dug 1:57:13.465 --> 1:57:17.665 themselves a huge hole against both Washington and Philadelphia, and 1:57:17.705 --> 1:57:21.025 they played Philadelphia this week. But is this an interesting 1:57:21.105 --> 1:57:23.545 to note John that no team has repeated in the 1:57:23.705 --> 1:57:26.145 NFC East in twenty years. 1:57:26.465 --> 1:57:28.945 That's that to me. We talked about that earlier this year. 1:57:29.185 --> 1:57:33.145 That's one of the more amaze saying undersold stories in 1:57:33.225 --> 1:57:36.985 the entire NFL that you've got all these different teams 1:57:37.065 --> 1:57:40.505 winning every different year and nobody repeats. And this year 1:57:40.665 --> 1:57:43.625 Washington is on top of the heap, going from what 1:57:43.825 --> 1:57:44.785 last to first. 1:57:45.265 --> 1:57:47.665 Right, and they've got a four game lead. Well, it 1:57:47.785 --> 1:57:50.025 was funny when you can win the super Bowl in 1:57:50.105 --> 1:57:53.785 twenty seventeen. They were in last place in twenty sixteen, Yeah, 1:57:53.865 --> 1:57:56.105 and then bounce back in one the whole thing. So, 1:57:57.345 --> 1:57:59.425 but I mean the last time the Washington won the division, 1:57:59.425 --> 1:58:01.185 they weren't even a five hundred team. They were seven 1:58:01.225 --> 1:58:05.505 to nine, yeah, in twenty twenty. So yeah, it's it's 1:58:05.665 --> 1:58:09.985 very bizarre considering the high profile the legacy a lot 1:58:10.025 --> 1:58:12.625 of those franchises instead of them in this steel it's 1:58:12.665 --> 1:58:16.345 a division where every one of those teams has won 1:58:16.905 --> 1:58:18.985 at least won Super Bowl, and all of them have 1:58:19.105 --> 1:58:23.265 won multiple NFL titles. Yeah, but they can't seem the same. 1:58:23.785 --> 1:58:27.745 Andy Reid led them to four straight NFC East titles 1:58:27.745 --> 1:58:29.545 from two thousand and one to two thousand and four, 1:58:30.185 --> 1:58:31.985 and no one's been able to get back back to 1:58:32.065 --> 1:58:32.705 back since. 1:58:34.505 --> 1:58:36.945 And and and and may not do for for a 1:58:36.985 --> 1:58:40.305 little while longer. Yeah, that's the that's the that's the 1:58:40.385 --> 1:58:43.145 reality of it. And in this day and age, all right, Russell, 1:58:43.185 --> 1:58:44.905 I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you get off 1:58:44.945 --> 1:58:47.625 to other things. And I appreciate your checking in with 1:58:47.785 --> 1:58:50.145 us again today, and and uh, we'll see about doing 1:58:50.185 --> 1:58:52.985 it again next week and figure out how uh, you know, 1:58:53.145 --> 1:58:55.425 two and seven moves either to three and seven or 1:58:55.425 --> 1:58:57.425 two and eight And what's left ahead for us. 1:58:58.825 --> 1:59:03.585 Well, listen, there are there were definitely some positives that 1:59:03.705 --> 1:59:06.185 came out of last week's game. There's no question about that. 1:59:06.705 --> 1:59:08.265 And that's the kind of thing you have to build 1:59:08.345 --> 1:59:10.905 up me. You know, we don't wasn't building the day 1:59:11.585 --> 1:59:13.305 because there was no free agency back then. 1:59:13.545 --> 1:59:15.665 That's also very true. We do know that we can 1:59:15.745 --> 1:59:17.985 hang the hat on number ten. I think in a 1:59:18.065 --> 1:59:22.105 Patriot's uniform. I think we saw, uh, the future is here. 1:59:22.545 --> 1:59:27.065 He just needs a little help right now. Yep, thanks buddy, 1:59:27.065 --> 1:59:30.065 appreciate you. You got you got you next week, Yes, sir, 1:59:30.625 --> 1:59:34.585 The one and only at Backs Football Guru on x 1:59:34.825 --> 1:59:39.785 Russell Baxter on week ten around the NFL A reminder. 1:59:39.905 --> 1:59:42.265 Easy to drink, It easy to enjoy. Bud Light is 1:59:42.305 --> 1:59:45.265 the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots, and 1:59:45.625 --> 1:59:50.345 Massachusetts is made for everyone, lease papers, corn, maize, strollers, 1:59:50.505 --> 1:59:53.945 regatta lovers, pumpkin pickers, and anyone else you can think of. 1:59:54.105 --> 1:59:57.945 So come to where there's something for everyone this fall, Massachusetts, 1:59:58.305 --> 2:00:01.665 where everything has made possible. Plan your trip at visitma 2:00:01.945 --> 2:00:04.425 dot com. I want to wrap up by. 2:00:04.665 --> 2:00:05.665 Oh, pardon me. 2:00:07.225 --> 2:00:11.105 I got to reach forward here, sorry, and bring in 2:00:11.145 --> 2:00:12.545 a couple of emails because I know there were a 2:00:12.545 --> 2:00:16.105 couple in here, so I wanted to share them with 2:00:16.225 --> 2:00:19.025 you here at the end of the program. Bob from 2:00:19.065 --> 2:00:22.025 Fort Lauderdale, great show. I listened regularly from Florida. The 2:00:22.105 --> 2:00:23.865 team is going through a tough time now, but we 2:00:23.945 --> 2:00:27.585 will get back to being relevant. Okay, Thank you, Bob. 2:00:27.625 --> 2:00:32.305 I appreciate your time to decided he didn't have enough 2:00:32.345 --> 2:00:36.025 earlier when he yelled at me on the phone. Hey rook, 2:00:36.145 --> 2:00:38.105 let me know when you guys are going to a concert. 2:00:38.225 --> 2:00:39.785 I may need to go on a road trip and 2:00:39.865 --> 2:00:41.905 meet up with you. Guys. Would love to get together 2:00:41.985 --> 2:00:44.105 with Eldred for a beer and talk some football. You 2:00:44.225 --> 2:00:47.025 need to set up an events board people can sign 2:00:47.105 --> 2:00:50.385 up for. You want to help me with that? Marine, 2:00:53.025 --> 2:00:55.785 I don't know. I don't know. Well, if Tana's in 2:00:55.865 --> 2:00:58.585 North Carolina and Eldred's in North Carolina and Trey is 2:00:58.665 --> 2:01:02.985 in Memphis, you know, I mean, I guess there's we 2:01:03.265 --> 2:01:05.345 We guess we need to do a playbook road trip 2:01:05.425 --> 2:01:07.625 one of these days. Maybe we get this. Maybe you 2:01:07.745 --> 2:01:09.705 and I will take off from here and we'll just 2:01:09.825 --> 2:01:12.785 drive down and meet those suckers. And if we're gonna, 2:01:12.865 --> 2:01:14.545 if we're the ones that are going to them, they 2:01:14.625 --> 2:01:21.865 gotta buy us lunch. Okay, deal right now, wears in 2:01:21.905 --> 2:01:26.225 gas thirty dollars lunch. Ah, all right, Okay, we spend 2:01:26.265 --> 2:01:28.785 listening to two hundred others in gas three hundred dollars 2:01:28.825 --> 2:01:31.105 for a hotel, and they're going to buy us a 2:01:31.145 --> 2:01:38.945 twenty dollars barbecue. Okay, yeah, let's say that's fine. Whack oh, 2:01:39.345 --> 2:01:41.065 this is why I don't go any plays in life. 2:01:42.545 --> 2:01:47.625 I know our buddy Howard in Connecticut. Just some musings 2:01:47.625 --> 2:01:50.105 about this team. We have a QB. Now they need 2:01:50.185 --> 2:01:52.465 to build around him. Wolf needs to have an A 2:01:52.745 --> 2:01:57.905 plus plus plus plus plus five pluses. Needs to have 2:01:58.065 --> 2:02:01.025 that draft and free agency offseason. They have top picks 2:02:01.065 --> 2:02:03.105 in every round, and they have more money than any 2:02:03.105 --> 2:02:05.745 other team in cap space. There are no excuses why 2:02:05.985 --> 2:02:08.185 he can't load this team up with talent that it 2:02:08.305 --> 2:02:11.905 currently lacks. AVP has been a disappointment to date. Perhaps 2:02:11.985 --> 2:02:14.345 it's lack of talent, but the play calling has also 2:02:14.425 --> 2:02:18.625 been unimaginative, static and predictable. That has to change. I 2:02:18.665 --> 2:02:22.945 couldn't agree more as far as Covington, again disappointing. Not 2:02:23.065 --> 2:02:25.305 as much as AVP, but still not as good as 2:02:25.345 --> 2:02:27.265 I thought it was going to be. A lot of 2:02:27.305 --> 2:02:29.465 that is due to the injuries we talked about earlier 2:02:29.545 --> 2:02:31.545 in the program. Again, I get that he lost three 2:02:31.585 --> 2:02:33.425 of his key horses up the middle, but the d 2:02:33.825 --> 2:02:36.425 he needs to figure that out and scheme to cover 2:02:36.545 --> 2:02:39.465 the weakness. And how about bringing in Vrabel as a 2:02:39.505 --> 2:02:43.345 consultant to Mayo. He brings in prior head coaching experience 2:02:43.385 --> 2:02:47.305 and there is a familiarity there. I don't know would 2:02:47.305 --> 2:02:49.465 he view something like that as a positive or as 2:02:49.465 --> 2:02:59.385 a threat something um Classy Claire also chimed in, here 2:02:59.905 --> 2:03:02.065 feels like a chicken an egg discussion, But I was 2:03:02.105 --> 2:03:04.985 hoping to get your take with regards to the landscape 2:03:05.025 --> 2:03:07.145 of the NFL, especially at the moment. It seems that 2:03:07.225 --> 2:03:10.465 teams can pick up quality wide receivers with trades and 2:03:10.585 --> 2:03:13.905 free agency, but the same can't be said for quality tackles. 2:03:15.225 --> 2:03:21.465 That's kind of interesting. Um, I don't know why that is. 2:03:24.185 --> 2:03:27.545 I think it's because tackles are valued differently, and everybody 2:03:27.625 --> 2:03:31.745 knows that they need a cornerstone piece, you know, as 2:03:31.785 --> 2:03:33.865 we talked earlier, the piece of the puzzle, the corner 2:03:33.905 --> 2:03:36.585 piece of the puzzle, and those I mean, you know, 2:03:36.665 --> 2:03:38.785 when you're doing a puzzle, right, there's only four corners 2:03:38.825 --> 2:03:41.145 to the puzzle. There just aren't many of these guys 2:03:41.225 --> 2:03:44.225 out there. Wide receivers like you see, you can always 2:03:44.265 --> 2:03:47.705 get guys that can catch a ball or run faster 2:03:47.865 --> 2:03:51.945 than somebody else, so they seem like they're more prevalent tackles. 2:03:52.545 --> 2:03:59.425 Franchise tackles not so not so so. I mean, that's 2:03:59.505 --> 2:04:03.225 just an observation, but I kind of sort of feel 2:04:03.305 --> 2:04:06.985 like that's really the the the answer to your question. 2:04:07.545 --> 2:04:10.945 You know, he's I've got this one from Courtney in Houston, 2:04:11.665 --> 2:04:13.945 who says, I want to comment on girod Mayo. I 2:04:14.025 --> 2:04:16.305 believe what we're seeing from Grod is very similar to 2:04:16.545 --> 2:04:21.105 downfall years from post down Tom Brady, you guys discussed 2:04:21.105 --> 2:04:23.145 the brain drain that happened in New England towards the end. 2:04:23.465 --> 2:04:25.785 I solely believe Grod is going to need his arning, 2:04:26.665 --> 2:04:29.345 like we talked about. Hopefully Wolf can be as GM 2:04:29.425 --> 2:04:31.425 and grow and be director of scouting, but he needs 2:04:31.505 --> 2:04:34.305 more than Unfortunately means that maybe Covington has to go, 2:04:34.545 --> 2:04:36.985 or that could mean maybe they really hit on coaches 2:04:37.065 --> 2:04:39.785 like a run game passing coordinator. Either way, I don't 2:04:39.785 --> 2:04:41.785 think it would be wise to roll this staff out 2:04:41.905 --> 2:04:45.825 completely the same for year two unless there's going to 2:04:45.905 --> 2:04:52.065 be an aggressive commitment to learning. Okay, I can understand that. 2:04:53.825 --> 2:04:56.905 I can understand that. All right. I appreciate you taking 2:04:56.985 --> 2:04:58.745 the time to do that. Thank you. Thank you for 2:04:58.865 --> 2:05:03.185 your comments and your criticisms and everything that you've got 2:05:03.225 --> 2:05:05.505 on the show. Or thanks to Mike Reese, our thanks 2:05:05.545 --> 2:05:08.345 to Evan Lazarre, our thanks to Russell Baxter, and most 2:05:08.385 --> 2:05:10.305 of all, my thanks to you for tuning in, and 2:05:10.385 --> 2:05:12.665 my thanks to the Marine for helping put this thing together. 2:05:12.705 --> 2:05:15.345 Every week when we're here visiting. 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