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Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We have way more

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Speaker 1: We have Brad Garrett, who has been with us a

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Speaker 1: Two things we're going to talk about. First thing, Nick Reiner,

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Speaker 1: Nick Reiner, who killed, as you know, Rob and Michelle Rider,

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Speaker 1: his parents in Brentwood. And it's fairly rare. Children killing

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Speaker 1: annual hobbits homicides, and killing both parents at the same

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Speaker 1: time is even smaller. Let's get let's get Brad Garrett on. Brad,

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Speaker 1: how are you good? John?

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Speaker 2: Thanks?

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Speaker 1: This is really rare, and this is stunts and scares

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Speaker 1: anybody who's a parent, anybody who has a troubled kid

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Speaker 1: what signs ought to be ought? I be looking for

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Speaker 2: So I think you have to start with longevity here

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Speaker 2: You're going to become more anxious, more depressed, more angry,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Nick Reiner, taking drugs for over fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: Because they're not giving him what he wants and something happened,

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Speaker 1: All right, Brad Garrett, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome to take care John.

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Speaker 1: come back, Brad talked a lot about Nick Reiner's mental disorder,

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Speaker 1: mental illness, perhaps born with an anti social personality disorder.

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Speaker 5: And they want to know how at school with a

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Speaker 1: You know, It's like when they say the safety is

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Speaker 1: How's that happen? That's the question? Do you Why are

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Speaker 1: a detrius respect. I want you to understand. Please keep

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Speaker 1: these reporters are such whimps. They are soggy whimps. Probably

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Speaker 5: So you're seeing that they were amazing with cameras in

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Speaker 4: I believe he said that there were two different phases

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. Well, finally,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. Well, he gave a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of technology. And we're not going to tell people where

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Speaker 1: like day five. We've all seen the available video. There

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Speaker 1: is no recording of him walking into the building, or

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Speaker 1: you install it? Guarding that nine billion dollars in down

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Speaker 1: it pretty closely? Huh? How much would a few extra

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Speaker 1: cameras cost? Why are university officials just uniformly such double

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Speaker 1: talking weasels. It's always Kamala Harris time. When they speak,

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Speaker 1: But they think they got a name. They're not releasing

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Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Daniel guss on. Well, we have another

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Speaker 1: corrupt La City councilman who's been fined one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty eight thousand dollars. Another one, we'll tell you who

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Speaker 1: two o'clock with Daniel Guss and he's got his own

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Speaker 1: Substack news site that you should go see. Let me

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Speaker 1: let me tell you about the latest in the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: fraud case, because you may have heard about how various

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Speaker 1: Somili Americans stole a billion dollars from taxpayers with all

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Speaker 1: kinds of welfare fake claims on welfare programs is the

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Speaker 1: quickest way to describe it. It looks like it's actually

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Speaker 1: two billion dollars at least. News has talked with the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota state Senator Michael Kruhn and a former federal prosecutor

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Speaker 1: named Joe Tireb and it turns out the losses might

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Speaker 1: as a Republican, said the government was long aware of

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Speaker 1: the problem. Minnesota has an epidemic of fraud, as the

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Speaker 1: rest of the nation is learning. These again are examples

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Speaker 1: nonprofit industry we've known here in Minnesota for quite some time,

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Speaker 1: we had a massive fraud problem and it's the epicenter

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Speaker 1: of fraud in the United States right now. Here's here's

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Speaker 1: one of the cases. A woman named Asha Farhan Hassan

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Speaker 1: The state. The state has a program so that residents

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Speaker 1: built Medicaid for fake therapy sessions used untrained staff, paid

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Speaker 1: autism program ballooned from three million in twenty eighteen, count

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Speaker 1: that one to two to three million, to four hundred

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Speaker 1: so easy to carry out, according to the former prosecutor. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: how easy this fraud was to do. These fraudsters were

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Speaker 1: just saying they were spending all this money on feeding kids.

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Speaker 1: That was another scam of feeding kids program. And all

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Speaker 1: onto exl sheets. He said, I could do that in

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Speaker 1: And anybody in government who raised any issues they were ignored, reassigned,

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Speaker 1: city councilman in Minneapolis named Jamal Osman, they lobbied the

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Speaker 1: governor personally and said, hey, if you don't allow this,

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Speaker 1: that's racist. Because the Minnesota Department of Education briefly halted payments,

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Speaker 1: and a city councilor actually walked in and said, if

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Speaker 1: And Tim Waltz said, ah, don't do that. Here, here's

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Speaker 1: the money. You believe that that's extortion. We're gonna call

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Speaker 1: you racist if you don't spend two billion dollars in

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Speaker 1: tax money on all our schemes that actually happened. According

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Speaker 1: to this report, they personally lobbied Waltz by threatening him

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Speaker 1: with the word racism, and next thing you know, it's

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Speaker 1: two billion dollars out the door. God, and he was

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Speaker 1: so close to being vice president when we come back

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Speaker 1: Daniel Guss and he's the independent journalist here in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: and he's going to tell us about another LA City

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Speaker 1: Council member corrupt taking goodies connected to Las Vegas, and

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Speaker 1: he's hit with a big fine. Hey, you've been listening

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Speaker 1: to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear

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