WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Gorgo

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind, this is Rob Lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is Saint Patrick's Day, so we do have an

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<v Speaker 1>older episode of Weird House Cinema that does, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in some small way involve an Irish setting. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about the nineteen sixty one European Kaiju

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<v Speaker 1>movie Gorgo. This this one's pretty fun and has a

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<v Speaker 1>great monster in it. So let's jump right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And

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<v Speaker 3>on today's episode of Weird House Cinema, we are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be talking about the nineteen sixty one British Kaiju

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<v Speaker 3>movie Gorgo, which I just saw for the first time

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks ago when my friend Ben brought

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<v Speaker 3>it over for a movie night. So one of the

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<v Speaker 3>first things you might be thinking is did I hear

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<v Speaker 3>the first line of the description? Right? Is this a

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<v Speaker 3>British giant monster movie? Yes? You did? Why is that

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<v Speaker 3>concept inherently so funny? I don't really know, but to

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<v Speaker 3>me certainly it is. And I wonder if you have

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<v Speaker 3>the same thought, Rob, So, like I was interrogating this further, So,

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<v Speaker 3>Japanese giant monster movie could be funny in execution, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not necessarily funny in principle, Like the original Godzilla

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<v Speaker 3>is not funny at all. It's a very dark, grim serious,

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<v Speaker 3>great movie. An American giant monster movie, I'd say same

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<v Speaker 3>thing could be funny in execution, not necessarily funny in principle.

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<v Speaker 3>But a British giant monster movie where a huge rat

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<v Speaker 3>creature attacks London is just fundamentally hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm not sure quite what it is, because you

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<v Speaker 1>do find giant monster kaiju movies in various films cultures,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't feel inherently out of place in other

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<v Speaker 1>film traditions. But yeah, there's something about the British setting

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<v Speaker 1>and all the British actors. I don't know. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>it unique, and it does maybe make it a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit hilarious unintentionally.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>things about this movie that are beautifully executed. It has

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<v Speaker 3>a similar problem that a lot of giant monster movies have,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that there's a lot of city stomping at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, just relentless smashing of buildings and such. It

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<v Speaker 3>goes on for a long time. That's not unique to Gorgo.

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<v Speaker 3>But the city smashing looks fantastic. It looks great. They've

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<v Speaker 3>got really good models. We get to see a creature

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<v Speaker 3>smashing well known landmarks throughout London, you know, really laying

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<v Speaker 3>into Big Ben and the Tower Bridge and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is really pleasurable to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's the basic formula in play here.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go into Gorgo expecting some drastically different from any

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<v Speaker 1>other giant monster movie that you've seen, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>well executed. There are a lot of solid talents that

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<v Speaker 1>were involved in making this film, and it does find

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<v Speaker 1>some places to do things that, if not entirely unique,

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<v Speaker 1>at least they come up with an interesting palette with

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<v Speaker 1>which to paint it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would agree. There are some other things that

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<v Speaker 3>work kind of well. I would say in the first

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<v Speaker 3>act there's an interesting sort of full corror vibe that

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<v Speaker 3>is unexpected for a movie of this type. We can

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<v Speaker 3>talk more about that when we get into the plot,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think we should start off by exploring the

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<v Speaker 3>question of what is Gorgo right. So Godzilla is a

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<v Speaker 3>giant bipedal reptile or lizard of some kind with atomic

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<v Speaker 3>radiation breath who emerges from under the ocean. Gamera is

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<v Speaker 3>a giant fire breathing turtle from the Arctic that can fly.

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<v Speaker 3>King Kong is a giant prehistoric ape from Skull Island.

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<v Speaker 3>What is Gorgo? I would describe Gorgo as a gigantic

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<v Speaker 3>two the monster with a similar bipedal posture to Godzilla,

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<v Speaker 3>who looks like a cross between a frilly eared lizard

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<v Speaker 3>and a satanic rat with red glowing eyes. He comes

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<v Speaker 3>out of the sea off the coast of an Irish island,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is thought to be some kind of ancient god,

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<v Speaker 3>at least at first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I would also add that he has pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much has the body of a rock'm sockem robot, not

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense that it's metallic, but in the basic

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<v Speaker 1>posture and proportions. It looks like he's ready to throw

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<v Speaker 1>some punches, and I guess ultimately does throw some punches

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<v Speaker 1>at major London landmarks.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way you can kind of see him rotating

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<v Speaker 3>his torso as he reaches with his arms.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now, if there I had plenty of scenes later

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<v Speaker 1>in the film to stare at this monster and try

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<v Speaker 1>and cope with some headcanon for everything I'm seeing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I will say the teeth. The more I looked at them,

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<v Speaker 1>the more I started thinking, well, these are like filter

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<v Speaker 1>feeding teeth. Like, this isn't a qua organism that's had

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<v Speaker 1>millions and millions of years to sort of evolve. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a filter feeder. Maybe that's what those teeth are

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<v Speaker 1>all about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good point. So you might think giant toothy

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<v Speaker 3>rat lizard creature and think a smaller number of large,

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<v Speaker 3>pointy teeth. You know, maybe each pointy tooth is like

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<v Speaker 3>the size of a sharpened boulder. But no, instead it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of tiny, pointy teeth. It's more like a

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<v Speaker 3>mouthful of swords. And so I think with that in mind,

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<v Speaker 3>you could also look at that as like the bristles

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<v Speaker 3>or the bleen of a filter feeder. That's a good connection, Rob,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know this is not the only the only

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<v Speaker 1>connection between this monster and the world of actual terrestrial biology,

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<v Speaker 1>because the creature's name Gorgo is allegedly based on an

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<v Speaker 1>actual dinosaur, the Gorgosaurs.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they don't say that in the movie, and the

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<v Speaker 3>movie they later explained that. Well, first, when we learned

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<v Speaker 3>the name Gorgo, they literally say, we don't know why

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<v Speaker 3>he's called that. But then the scheming circus operator who

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<v Speaker 3>is exploiting Gorgo for cash, he explains that he named

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<v Speaker 3>the creature Gorgo after the gorgon Medusa. So there is

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<v Speaker 3>a common connective thread that we could get into. But

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<v Speaker 3>they don't say in the movie that it's named after

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<v Speaker 3>this dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this might have been something that was more

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<v Speaker 1>of a stronger connection at some earlier phase of production.

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<v Speaker 1>It could also be something that's been kind of added

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact. But the truth is there is a gorgosaurus.

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<v Speaker 1>The gorgosaurus was not named after this movie. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the literally names fierce lizard. This creature lived during the

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<v Speaker 1>Late Cretaceous period eighty to seventy three million years ago

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<v Speaker 1>in parts of what is now the United States and Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I guess its range wouldn't actually have

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<v Speaker 1>extended over to the British Isles. But anyway, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a large therapod and we have at least twelve complete

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<v Speaker 1>or near complete skulls and various partial skeletons to go

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<v Speaker 1>off of. It was a tyrannosaur, not as big as

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<v Speaker 1>a t rex, but still quite impressive at eight to

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<v Speaker 1>nine meters or twenty six to thirty feet in length.

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<v Speaker 1>It was first described and named by Canadian paleontologist Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb that's not spelled like my name is Lambe in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fourteen. And the gorgo part of the name fierce

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact related to the ancient Greek word gorgos,

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<v Speaker 1>which means grim or dreadful, reflected in the naming of

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<v Speaker 1>the mythical gorgons.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so at the very least, the real gorgosaurus and

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<v Speaker 3>the gorgo of the movie get their name from the

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<v Speaker 3>same place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And you know, if this strikes a chord with

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<v Speaker 1>anyone out there, you're like, where have I heard about

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<v Speaker 1>gorgosaurus recently? Well, the gorgosar has actually just made the

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<v Speaker 1>news last month. This was reported about in the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times under their Ancient Meat Reporting Desk. This concerns

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy five million year old gorgosaurus fossil. It was

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<v Speaker 1>discovered with fossilized stomach contents. This was the first, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>for a tyrannosaur. It was a juvenile and the stomach

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<v Speaker 1>contents were the hind limbs of two small feathered dinosaurs.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Michael Greshko in his New York Times article

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<v Speaker 1>covering a study authored by Francois Therein, the curator of

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<v Speaker 1>Dinosaur paleo Ecology at the Royal Tirel Museum in Alberta.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that if it had grown to adulthood, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have likely moved on too much bigger prey. But

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<v Speaker 1>as a smaller critter, it was having to eat the

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<v Speaker 1>legs of various bird creatures. So at any rate, gorgosaurs

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<v Speaker 1>still making the headlines, at least, you know, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as stories about ancient meat and an ancient chicken legs ghost.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you included an illustration from the New York Times article.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an artist's impression of what the living juvenile gorgosaurus

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<v Speaker 3>would have looked like. And this is a much more

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<v Speaker 3>spindily creeture than the gorgo of the film, which is

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<v Speaker 3>which is very dense and bulky, and apart from its

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<v Speaker 3>rat like head, it's got the more classic sort of

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<v Speaker 3>storybook illustration of the tyrannosaur that's very sort of bottom

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<v Speaker 3>heavy and has like big legs and lower body parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, but before you Gorgo fans look up this

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<v Speaker 1>article and say this is not accurate, let me suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that the Gorgo that we see in this movie has

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<v Speaker 1>again evolved for life in an aquatic setting over millions

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<v Speaker 1>of years. So he has kind of like that whale

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<v Speaker 1>body going on. Ah So, if we're being generous, we

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<v Speaker 1>might say, well, it's it kind of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. Yes, the Gorgo's body has has evolved for

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<v Speaker 3>insulation purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so a little science there, but believe me, the

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<v Speaker 1>science is not necessary for your appreciation and understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so on, We've talked a little bit before on

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast when we've done other Kaiju or giant monster

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<v Speaker 3>movies about the various subgenres that these movies fall into,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought it might make sense to try to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out where Gorgo fits into that subgenre map. So

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<v Speaker 3>a few of the main types of giant monster movies are.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, first of all, Kaiju the destroyer. An

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<v Speaker 3>example of this would be the original Godzilla. A giant

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<v Speaker 3>beast arrives unexpectedly and brings ruined to humankind, and the

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<v Speaker 3>monster must somehow be defeated or driven away. Second category,

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<v Speaker 3>I would call Kaiju the Defender. Good examples here would

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<v Speaker 3>be the later sequels involving almost any of the popular

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<v Speaker 3>Kaiju monsters, monsters like Godzilla and Gammera. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>variation that arises in which the giant monster that was

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<v Speaker 3>once the Destroyer must now defend us from a more

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<v Speaker 3>horrible threat, usually either space aliens or a new giant

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<v Speaker 3>monster that is meaner and more spiny. And I would

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<v Speaker 3>argue that the emergence of Kaiju the Defender as a

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<v Speaker 3>subgenre of giant monster movies is part of a broader

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<v Speaker 3>trend that's not just in giant monster movies, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>this trend where if you have a series of movies

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<v Speaker 3>all about the same focal character, that character will almost

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<v Speaker 3>always become more friendly and approachable over time, even if

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<v Speaker 3>they began as a villain or an anti hero. So

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<v Speaker 3>Gamera goes from being a terrifying pyro turtle on a

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<v Speaker 3>rampage to the friend of all children. You can look

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<v Speaker 3>to any Vin Diesel movie series for examples of this.

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<v Speaker 3>The Vin Diesel character will always become nicer as it

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<v Speaker 3>goes on. Even Freddy Krueger goes from being in the

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<v Speaker 3>First Nightmare on elm Street movie, this grimy, disgusting child

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<v Speaker 3>murderer to later on more just kind of like a

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<v Speaker 3>lethal puck in a sweater, Like he does still kill people,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's more kind of a prankster and a jokester.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it becomes more of like a peewee Herman kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a character as opposed to just a nightmare monster

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<v Speaker 1>from your mind, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So in the later sequels in these movies you

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<v Speaker 3>often get Kaiju the defender. Next, I would say is

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<v Speaker 3>the pity the Kaiju movie. Great example here is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the original King Kong, Like a dangerous but in

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<v Speaker 3>many ways admirable and noble monster is kidnapped or imprisoned

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<v Speaker 3>or otherwise exploited by greedy humans, and in the end

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<v Speaker 3>you have emotional sympathy for the creature in the way

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<v Speaker 3>that it has been mistreated by humankind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and obviously there are numerous sub classifications that we

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<v Speaker 1>could point out here, but well, one that comes to

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<v Speaker 1>mind as well as essentially the ware Kaiju option. So

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<v Speaker 1>not an amazing colossal situation where just a human gets

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<v Speaker 1>big and then does big stuff, but a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>a protagonist transforms into a giant monster that is distinct

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<v Speaker 1>from just a giant human. The twenty sixteen film Colossal

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<v Speaker 1>starring Anne Hathaway comes to mind that has a fun

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<v Speaker 1>twist on this concept, and there's also nineteen sixty five's

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<v Speaker 1>Frankenstein Versus Beragon that involves something like this as well,

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<v Speaker 1>with a small boy transforming into a giant Frankenstein's monster.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, I don't think I've seen either of those. I

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<v Speaker 3>certainly haven't seen the one with Anne Hathaway. Does Ann

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<v Speaker 3>is Anne Hathaway the one who transforms into a giant monster?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she is, or it's a so spoilers if if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you haven't seen this, just skip like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes ahead. But the basic concept, if memory serves,

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<v Speaker 1>is that she she has the spells where she becomes

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<v Speaker 1>the monster or controls the monster with her impulses, but

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<v Speaker 1>is not conscious of the fact. So it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>physical transformation. Uh. It's it's it's something else, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very fun film. It's it's it's it's a comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has a giant monster and it has a

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<v Speaker 1>number of wonderful actors in it. Well worth checking out.

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<v Speaker 3>That does sound interesting. I'll have to look that up.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, So where does Gorgo fit into the these subgenres?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say Gorgo has elements of the first Kusu

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<v Speaker 3>the Destroyer, and elements of the third the Pity the

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<v Speaker 3>Monster film, less of the second, which makes sense because

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<v Speaker 3>this is the first Gorgo movie. This is not like

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<v Speaker 3>a later sequel, and usually they don't become defenders of

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<v Speaker 3>people or friend to all children until later on, so

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<v Speaker 3>it has elements of both. I would say, especially in

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<v Speaker 3>the first act, the monster really does seem scary and

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<v Speaker 3>seem like a threat. But as the film goes on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you really come to sympathize with the monster spoiler monsters

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<v Speaker 3>over the I don't know, just like gloating, egotistical naval

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<v Speaker 3>commanders who think that launching some more bombs at them

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<v Speaker 3>will finally solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, It's ultimately going to be a draw, and

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<v Speaker 1>you realize, well, we can't really oppose Gorgo anymore. We

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<v Speaker 1>must form an alliance with Gorgo. Clearly, if they'd made

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<v Speaker 1>more Gorgo movies, it would have been Gorgo protecting the

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<v Speaker 1>British Isles from some other menace.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But Rob, you brought to my attention the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that there was a Gorgo comic series that seems to

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<v Speaker 3>have happened after the movie. So, if I understand correctly,

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<v Speaker 3>the character was created for the film, but then there

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<v Speaker 3>were comics made in the wake of that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't read these comics, but just judging by looking at

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<v Speaker 3>some of the covers online, Gorgo does appear to go

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<v Speaker 3>through the exact same like heel to face turn we

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<v Speaker 3>see in these other Monsters, because in the first issue

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<v Speaker 3>he's just yeah, like you know, looming over London opposing

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of threat. But by the last issue, it

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<v Speaker 3>looks like he's the only thing that can save the

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<v Speaker 3>world from communism. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these covers are definitely worth looking up. I was

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<v Speaker 1>surprised because I think i'd run across the idea before

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<v Speaker 1>that there was some sort of a comic book adaptation,

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<v Speaker 1>and that alone is not surprising. I was thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a one off, you know, they did a comic

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<v Speaker 1>book adaptation of the movie, But no, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole run with Gorgo fighting various threats including communism

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<v Speaker 1>and giant squidsed it. You know, it's that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>big furry monsters with horns on their head, cyclopses, you

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<v Speaker 1>name it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So for a brief survey, issue number one, Rob,

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<v Speaker 3>I've added these images to the outline so we can

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<v Speaker 3>comment on them as we look. Issue number one is

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<v Speaker 3>just Gorgo standing. There's London in the background because he

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<v Speaker 3>big ben. You see the tower and the clock, and

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<v Speaker 3>then some guys on the ground with flame throwers blasting

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<v Speaker 3>up at Gorgo's hands, and Gorgo just looks done. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got a kind of like grinning through the pain look

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<v Speaker 3>on his face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And I assume this one is basically an

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation of the picture, or you know, an abbreviation of

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But then by issue number three we see a

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<v Speaker 3>cover that is some kind of mad scientists trying to

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<v Speaker 3>harness Gorgo's power. Gorgo looks different now, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>He's kind of he's got a different shape, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of bubbly all over in a lighter shade of

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<v Speaker 3>like yellow green. But he's standing there and he's sort

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<v Speaker 3>of reeling back. Gorgo looks like it's a more defensive posture,

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<v Speaker 3>and this mad scientist is poking at him with this

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<v Speaker 3>shock ray, and the mad scientist is saying, I can

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<v Speaker 3>control you. With you at my command, I will rule

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<v Speaker 3>the world. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, clearly, Gorgo is a force of nature that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be potentially exploited by bad actors in the

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<v Speaker 1>human realm, and therefore the real villains are the mad scientists.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. So that's three. By issue number five, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got the title Gorgo Clashes with the Sea Beast, where

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<v Speaker 3>he's just it's a Kaiju meat slam. Now he's just

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<v Speaker 3>wrestling with another giant monster. This looks like some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of octopus inspired type creature, though. I have to say

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<v Speaker 3>the illustration is funny because it looks like they're about

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<v Speaker 3>to kiss. Doesn't it like Gorgo's even sort of holding

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<v Speaker 3>the back of the octopus's head like he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>dip him for a kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. It says Gorgo clashes with the Sea Beast

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<v Speaker 1>and the Unforgettable the Day Manhattan Died, which raises all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of questions. Why is Gorgo going over to Manhattan?

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<v Speaker 1>Is like, is there like a Gorgo sharing program or

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<v Speaker 1>treaty between the UK and the United States At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know, they do invoke NATO later in the

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<v Speaker 3>uh oh in the movie yeah, and then it goes on. So,

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<v Speaker 3>like I included issue number ten, there's more fighting that

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<v Speaker 3>looks kind of like kissing. This is where Gorgo is

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<v Speaker 3>fighting the Venusian Terror. It says they came from an

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<v Speaker 3>alien world bent on destroying Earth and its inhabitants. Could

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<v Speaker 3>even the mighty Gorgo stop them. Don't miss the Venusian Terror.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the Venusian Terror? Well, you see a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of flying saucers in the background that almost kind of

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<v Speaker 3>look like they have eyes, like they're kind of placid,

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<v Speaker 3>smiley faces. But then the Venusian monster is a cyclops

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<v Speaker 3>being with a long yellow snake tongue, one big eye,

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<v Speaker 3>and one big horn on the top of his head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, and he's licking Gorgo in the face. It really

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<v Speaker 1>seems like maybe this is a big misunderstanding. The Venusian

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<v Speaker 1>tear doesn't really want to hurt anyone. He just wants

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<v Speaker 1>a little snuggling, a little little face licking.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. Yeah, he is cute. And then, like we said, finally,

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<v Speaker 3>by like the end of the series, we've got Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>in one of them. I don't know what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fighting a giant guy just like a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>kind of looks like Dracula, but he's Gorgo sized. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they must have blown him up with mad science somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fighting Gorgo. And then also Gorgo is fighting somebody

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<v Speaker 3>called General Thung, and we see General Thung saying that

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<v Speaker 3>with together we will destroy all imperialistic nations, and Gorgo,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess is gonna gonna prevent that? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Gorgo's politics are fully explored in this particular issue,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, Yeah, but all of that comes later. This

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<v Speaker 1>movie is about then this would be my elevator pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the British Isles versus giant.

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<v Speaker 3>Monster, that is exactly it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, let's go ahead and have that trailer

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<v Speaker 1>audio so everyone can hear some of the destruction that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming their way.

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<v Speaker 4>FA No motion picture of our time has ever unleashed

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<v Speaker 4>shut spectacle of such scope and realism as up from

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<v Speaker 4>the depths of prehistoric mystery rages Virgo. The Headlines of

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<v Speaker 4>the World plays the fabulous story of this monster from

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<v Speaker 4>another age?

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<v Speaker 3>Can it pulled?

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<v Speaker 4>It romps up vast soub ocean cavern by unprecedented volcanic action,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Headlines screamed. The story of the reckless skin

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<v Speaker 4>divers who capture the monster and put it on exhibition.

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<v Speaker 2>Sap the debts you're joint.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it easy.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't go home and go back to see where belongs?

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<v Speaker 3>Why maybe to see they're silly skins for you gorgo.

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<v Speaker 4>But the headlines do not record the story of the

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<v Speaker 4>little boy who had a curious sympathy and understanding for

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<v Speaker 4>the fantastic creature. What strange secret does he know that

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<v Speaker 4>scientists only suspect.

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to say, there maybe a fully grown one

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<v Speaker 2>of these things around somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>How big would a full grown one be an approximate

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<v Speaker 4>guess the infant the adult that'll make an early two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred feet tall. Freaking terrible ventuance against the civilization that

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<v Speaker 4>has captured its offspring, powering over the cities of the world,

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<v Speaker 4>has millions flee. It's awesome terror. Nothing can stop it,

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<v Speaker 4>defying the porce of the army, the might of the navy,

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<v Speaker 4>na Montanie.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready to open fiser file, then.

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<v Speaker 4>Even the fury of the jets and a writing proshundo.

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<v Speaker 4>Fights never before beheld by human eyes, and adventures never

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<v Speaker 4>be more experienced by any man no woman.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, if you want to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>watch gorgo before proceeding with this episode. It is widely

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<v Speaker 1>available in physical and digital formats and on multiple streaming platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>You can even grab it on Blu Ray and again.

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<v Speaker 1>The film was also covered by Mystery Science Theater three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand in a nineteen ninety eight episode, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's available in different formats as well. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the people behind this film, starting at the

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<v Speaker 1>top with the director. Eugene Lourie born nineteen oh three

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<v Speaker 1>died nineteen ninety one, Russian born French art director and

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately director. His production design work goes back to the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen thirties, but his first directorial credit was nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three's The Beast from twenty thousand fathoms. This one,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, has an excellent ray Harry Housen. Lizard in it,

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<v Speaker 1>a giant lizard monster the terrorizes the city and in

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<v Speaker 1>one memorable scene, eats a cop.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the one attacking New York or somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's New York. This is one I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen in full, but I've certainly seen the monster clips.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime you see Harry Housen retrospective. You're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>clips from this film for sure. And this movie was

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<v Speaker 1>a hit. Seems to have cubmitted Laurie as a giant

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<v Speaker 1>monster director, and he followed this up with nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight's The Colossus of New York. This is about a

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<v Speaker 1>giant robot body that has a dead boy's brain in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I included a still for you here, Joe OFV said Robot.

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<v Speaker 3>I have considered suggesting this for the show before. I

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<v Speaker 3>think we may come around to it one day, because,

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<v Speaker 3>from what I understand, is a similar concept to Tammy

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<v Speaker 3>and the t Rex, except instead of a t Rex body,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a giant sort of colossus being.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's also nineteen fifty nine's The Giant Behemoth. This

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<v Speaker 1>has another giant dinosaur in it, less memorable, not a

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<v Speaker 1>ray her at Harry House in Creation. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>also did an episode of the nineteen fifty nine TV

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<v Speaker 1>series World of Giants. This was an incredible Shrinking Man

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<v Speaker 1>inspired show. I couldn't find details on the specific episode

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>he did and what kind of giant aka normal sized

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<v Speaker 1>insect or what have you might have been featured in

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<v Speaker 1>that episode. Now, Michael Weldon and his Psychotronic Movie Guides

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<v Speaker 1>points out that the six sess of nineteen fifty threes

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<v Speaker 1>Beast was actually an inspiration on fifty four's Godzilla, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've read elsewhere that Godzilla was also inspired by the

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<v Speaker 1>commercial success of a nineteen fifty two re release of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty three's King Kong. So you can think of

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<v Speaker 1>those two films as two primary predecessors to Godzilla and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore the vast world of Kaiju that we have before us.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the director. A couple of writers attached to this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Robert L. Richard, who of nineteen oh nine through

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four, American writer of mostly westerns. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>of these individuals who lost their Hollywood career due to

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<v Speaker 1>the Blacklist during this time period. Daniel James as the

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<v Speaker 1>other writer of nineteen eleven through nineteen eighty eight, also

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<v Speaker 1>blacklisted from Hollywood for his political views. He worked as

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<v Speaker 1>an uncredited writer on The Beast from twenty thousand Fathoms

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<v Speaker 1>as well as The Giant Behemoth served as Earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>his career, he had as assistant director on the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty Charlie Chaplin movie The Great Dictator, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into the cast. The towering lead man in this

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<v Speaker 1>is Bill Travers playing the character Joe Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>There's really sort of there are really sort of two

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<v Speaker 3>leads in this movie. There's there's Sam and Joe the characters,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, one is Bill Travers and the other

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<v Speaker 3>is William Sylvester. And I was thinking them as Bill

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<v Speaker 3>trev and Bill sill.

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<v Speaker 1>Well obviously for the lead, and I mean in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of billing and in terms of height, and maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>all they decided on it. Big Bill Travers is your

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>lead here. He lived nineteen twenty two through nineteen ninety four. Yeah,

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I looked it up. I was like, how tall was

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>this guy? Apparently six six, So that's that's that's a

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>big guy by most standards. And it's clear in the film,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is this guy's he's almost as tall

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<v Speaker 1>as Gorgo basically. But anyway, British leading man and animal

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>rights activists who mostly worked in mainstream dramas, with this

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<v Speaker 1>being I believe his only sci fi or horror film.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything else is more traditional real world sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>His most famous and ultimately most influential film was nineteen

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>sixty six Is Born Free This was an adaptation of

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<v Speaker 1>George and Joy Adamson's book about their experiences raising a

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<v Speaker 1>lion cub in Kenya, and it led to a kind

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>of spiritual follow up with the same stars called Ring

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of Bright Water in nineteen sixty nine. Bill Travers's wife,

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Virginia mckinnab born nineteen thirty one, was his co star

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<v Speaker 1>in both of those pictures, and their experience with the films,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the first one, Born Free this open apparently opened

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>up their eyes to various challenges concerning captive wild animals

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and they created the Born Free Foundation

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty four, which is still very active. It

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<v Speaker 1>works to quote ensure that all wild animals, whether living

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>in captivity or in the wild, are treated with compassion

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and respect and are able to live their lives according

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to their needs. And you can learn more about that

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<v Speaker 1>organization at Bornfree dot org dot UK.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting given the themes of Gorgo. Yeah, correct me

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 3>if I'm wrong. I don't think I heard you mentioned

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Gorgo as a sighted inspiration for this activism. But Gorgo

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.719
<v Speaker 3>also has themes of animal rights and captivity.

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe it was there in the background, and

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe Gorgo is what pushed it over the edge. But no,

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>they never mentioned Gorgo with It's not the Gorgo Foundation,

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 1>it's the Born Free Foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I say this not to tarnish his acting or

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 3>his activism by association, but there's kind of an elephant

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 3>in the room with this guy, which I know of

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 3>being brought up multiple times independently when talking about this

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 3>movie with people, which is that in some shots he

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of looks like Steven Sagall. Here it helps that

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 3>he's tall. Sometimes at like certain angles he makes a

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of Stephen Segall face. And there's also a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of energy that I don't know if this exactly makes sense,

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 3>rob but like the fact that he doesn't take off

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 3>his captain even when they come on board land that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of has a sigall thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, fair enough, fair enough. Now you mentioned

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that William Sylvester plays the other main character, the character

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Sam Slade, And this is a guy that I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people will recognize he was. He lived

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty two through nineteen ninety five. His most recognizable

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>role is that of doctor Haywood R. Floyd in Stanley

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Cooprit's nineteen sixty eight masterpiece two thousand and one of

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Space Odyssey.

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<v Speaker 3>So he is the character in two thousand and one

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 3>who we see him when we first transition from the

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 3>prologue into the future. He's like taking a shuttle to

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 3>the moon and then arrives there to investigate the anomaly

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 3>found buried on the moon. Is that right?

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, so it's you see him early in the film,

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and he is I mean, not too early, because early

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>enough you're only seeing.

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Hominids and.

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Tapers and so forth. But yeah, one of the first

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>modern humans you encounter. And I don't know about anyone else,

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>but like watching this film and recognizing him from two

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, it kind of added a little extra

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>class to this picture, you know, like like two thousand

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and one can't help but where it could rub off

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>on any other picture you see some of the various

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>actors from that film.

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeen, though, of course Gorgo did come first, so you

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 3>could look at it as Bill Sill bringing that class

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 3>of Gorgo into the production of two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly, you certainly could, But you know, it wasn't all

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like generational, all time best sci fi films for William Sylvester,

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>other folks might recognize him from the TV series Gemini

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Man and the TV movie from seventy six as well

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Writing with Death. This was pieced together from I think

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of episodes of Gemini Man and was

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>featured on Mystery Science Theater three thousand.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I have vague memories of that one.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>His other credits include nineteen sixty four's Devil Doll, sixty

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>five's Devils of Darkness, and he also pops up in

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eights Heaven Can Wait.

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<v Speaker 3>There's only so much that is demanded of the actors

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 3>in Gorgo, but I think I would say William Sylvester

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 3>stands out in this movie as doing maybe the most

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 3>with his role of anyone.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he gets the smoke a lot. Let's smoke

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 3>He's the one who we first see really seeming to

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 3>feel bad about what's happening to Gorgo. Apart from a

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 3>child actor who we'll talk about in a bit, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple other characters of note. We have Professor Hendrix,

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>played by Joseph O'Connor ten through two thousand and one,

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Irish actor and playwright with extensive Shakespearean stage credits. His

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<v Speaker 1>films include nineteen sixty four's The Gorgon, So it's in

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>both Gorgo and The Gorgon. This is the Terence Fisher

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Hammer film, starring both Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee. He

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>was in nineteen sixty nine's And of the Thousand Days,

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight's Elizabeth, nineteen ninety nine's The Messenger and this

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>is pretty cool too. He served as the narrator in

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the Voice of the ERSKX in nineteen eighty two's The

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Dark Crystal. Oh wow, yeah, So that voice you hear

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>at the end, that's Joseph O'Connor. I had no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So that's Professor Hendrix. And then there's this

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<v Speaker 1>character Dorkin.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh what a skiez.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Dorkan is played by Martin Benson, who lived nineteen

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>eighteen through twenty ten. English character actor whose credits include

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty six is the King and I, sixty three

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Is Cleopatra, sixty four is a Shot in the Dark

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>sixty nine's Goldfinger. He plays one of the mobsters that

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the villain in that is involved in his scheme to

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<v Speaker 1>radiate a bunch of gold.

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I believe he is the guy who objects to goldfingers

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 3>plan and they're like, oh, oh, you know, that's fine,

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to be part of this. So they

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 3>go put him in a car and then they put

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 3>the car in a trash compactor. Classic.

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, then you got seventy six is the Omen

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>seventy sevens Jesus of Nazareth in nineteen ninety nine's Angela's Ashes.

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't think he was ever. He was

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>very much a character actor, often like a little further

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>down the listings, but had major roles in a number

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>of big pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>Dorkin is the greedy, unscrupulous circus proprietor in this film

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 3>who exploits Gorgo for profit, and I think Benson does

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 3>a great job with this role. He's like he's out Carnival,

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 3>barking about how you know, oh, the Irish government may

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 3>soon put a stop to what we're doing to Gorgo,

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 3>so come and get your tickets now while there's still

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 3>a chance.

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>There's a window for Gorgo exploitation.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right.

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go into a lot of detail here,

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but it is worth noting that in small uncredited roles

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we also have future UFO lead ed bishop who lived

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty two through two thousand and five, and then we

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>also have Nigel Green, John Wood, Fred Wood. All three

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>would later go would go on to be bigger name

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>actors there and there. I wasn't able to spot most

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>of them. I think I spotted one or both of

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the Woods. And then as far as the monsters go,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a stunt man by the name of Dave Wilde

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>inside the monster suit. I couldn't find out much about him,

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>but I do like to acknowledge the person wearing the

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>monster suit whenever possible. All right, now, behind the scenes,

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you actually have a number of notable names here. We'll

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>try not to spend too much time on him here.

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>But the cinematographer for this was Freddie Young, who lived

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh two through nineteen ninety eight, British cinematographer best

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.720
<v Speaker 1>known for his Oscar winning work on David Lean's films

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence of Arabia from sixty two, Doctor Shivago from sixty

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>five and Ryan's Daughter from nineteen seventy. So this is

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>right before Lawrence of Arabia.

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>He also worked on sixty seven's You Only Live Twice,

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>seventy one's Nicholas and Alexandra and nineteen seventy two's The Asphix.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Wow Freddy got around.

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, big name, big name. Yeah. Another one, Elliot Scott,

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>was the art director on This So Lived nineteen fifteen

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>through nineteen ninety three. He'd worked previously on nineteen fifty

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>eight's Tom Thumb, which was a kind of a big

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>special effects feature of the time period.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>He went on to work as art director on such

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>films as sixty four's Children of the Damned, nineteen seventies

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>No Blade of Grass, and he served as production designer

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>on a ton of big films nineteen eighties The Water

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>in the Woods, eighty one's Dragon Slayer, eighty three's The

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Pirates of Penzance, eighty four's Indiana Jones and The Temple

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>of Doom eighty six is Labyrinth, eighty eights, who framed

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Roger Rabbit and nineteen eighty nine's Indiana Jones in the

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:25.919
<v Speaker 1>Last Crusade.

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh Jen, a lot of high profile work. Wow Yeah.

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Then we have Tom Howard Special Photographic Effects Live nineteen

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>tenth through nineteen eighty five. He was a visual effects

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>expert who worked on a number of award winning and

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>legendary special effects film, including Tom Thumb nineteen sixty three's

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>The Haunting and nineteen sixty eight two thousand and one

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>A Space Odyssey. As we'll discuss, there are a lot

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>of monster suit effects in this, a lot of like

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>miniature set effects, but there's also a fair amount of

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>chroma key replacement stuff, you know, like blue green screen

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>type effects. I'm thinking of special early on in the

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>film when when you know, however, two main characters out

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>on the water about to go scuba diving, like clearly

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>they did some combination of on location and sat with

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the ocean thrown in the background. And then finally the

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>score is by and I may not be pronouncing this correctly.

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Angelo Francisco Lavagnino, who lived nineteen oh nine through nineteen

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven, an Italian composer whose other scores include nineteen

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>fifty five Lost Continent and a whole slew of Spaghetti

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>westerns and Sword and Sandal epics. His score for Lost

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Continent was a winner at the Cans Film Festival. So

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's a fine sweeping orchestral score here.

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:44.439
<v Speaker 1>It fits the grandeur that is Gorgo. But that's about

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>all I can say for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, sometimes it's funny because clearly something it's trying

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>to do, especially at the beginning, is blend this thundering,

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, suite of monster horns with the lilting Irish

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 3>folk melodies. And you know, I'd say it does that

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 3>fairly successfully. Though it's a kind of amusing thing to hear.

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 3>So I guess we're transitioning to the plot now. And

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 3>the movie opens with that score that combines like the

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, the dramatic monster music with the Irish sounding

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 3>folk melody, and that is playing while we see the

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 3>titles and the title is there are such like block

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 3>letters in the title here. I love the heaviness of it,

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 3>like you can imagine the teams that built the pyramids

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 3>putting together the Gorgo title.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, when they drop the title Gorgo here,

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>it is like a thousand feet tall. It's like a

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>biblical epic font. It looks like it should be comically

0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Monty Python style crushing something. And then this alone was amazing.

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But then they kept using it like smaller of course,

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>but they kept using it for the rest of the credits,

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and I loved it.

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Strong choice. So the action begins with a steamship out

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>on the sea, and we see the men of the

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 3>crew all looking out over the sea with concern. Something

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 3>is troubling them, and then we see what they're looking at.

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Far out in the distance, there is a patch of

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 3>ocean that appears to be at a rolling boil. It

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 3>is this giant, white, frothy mass swirling around ominously, and

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 3>soon a diver in scuba gear comes up to the

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 3>ladder on the side of the ship. From the water

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 3>and from the diver we learned that these are salvage operators,

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 3>and while they're certainly worried about the boiling ocean, there

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 3>is money to be made. A shipwreck worth a fortune

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 3>is down below, so the dive continues until disaster strikes.

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:58.720
<v Speaker 3>The boiling region of the ocean suddenly irrupts. Something comes

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 3>out of it looks kind of like a vult cannic

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 3>mountaintop poking up out of the water, and the ship

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 3>is rocked by brutal waves. It nearly turns over. We

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 3>see cargo from the deck being washed overboard, sailors fighting

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 3>to keep the vessel afloat, and the boat is nearly destroyed,

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.760
<v Speaker 3>and then we cut to the next morning. The violence

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 3>has subsided, but the ship is very damaged. It's engine

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 3>has taken on water. We see this giant propeller making

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 3>a weak effort to spin, and here assessing the problem,

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 3>we meet our two main characters. Actually I guess we

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 3>met them before, but we sort of get to know them.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 3>So there is Captain Joe Ryan played by Bill Travers,

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 3>and then there is the first mate, Sam Slade, played

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 3>by William Sylvester. Now, honestly, the first time I watched this,

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 3>though they don't look the same, I couldn't tell much

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 3>of a difference between these two guys. I didn't really

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 3>separate them. In my mind, they were just like the

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.919
<v Speaker 3>two salvage guys. Captain Joe is the taller guy, he's

0:39:54.960 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 3>the guy wearing the captain's hat. But on rewad I

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 3>could see more of the differences between their characters.

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this film doesn't set them up as being like

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>an antagonistic to each other.

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Like.

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 1>They clearly have a great working relationship and therefore they

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>line up on a lot of things. You know, another

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>film might have gone in a different direction where you

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>know one of them's good, one of them's bad. You

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>know one of them wants to cut corners and the

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.919
<v Speaker 1>other one is by the book and it's not really

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:23.399
<v Speaker 1>what we have.

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Here, certainly not in the beginning. They do have more

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 3>differences later on in the film.

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you throw a giant monster into a relationship,

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>even a working relationship, and it changes everything that's right.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 3>So Sam and Joe figured that the boat is going

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 3>to take three or four days to repair, and they're

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 3>out of fresh water, so they need to go ashore

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 3>at the nearest port, which is on a small island

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 3>where they're off the coast of Ireland by the way,

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 3>but it's a small island called Nara, and so our

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 3>salvage buddies take a dinghy into the port and along

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 3>the way we see some kind of strange creatures that

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 3>appear to be dead floating in the water. They're like

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 3>weird float I mean, we see these models. At one point,

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 3>Bill Travers like picks one up out of the water

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 3>and holds it up for us to see. And they're

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 3>like these rubber fish that I think have legs and

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 3>they have things poking out of their eyes.

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, big rubber monster fish everywhere, like weird enough looking

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that you would have it seems like it would have

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>been more alarming, But I guess yeah, they're just like, well,

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 1>these are strange, not familiar with this species.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bill Travs says, never seen anything like that before,

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 3>and then just throws it back.

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they pick one up, look at it, throw it

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>back in.

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, maybe when you're a salvage operator,

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 3>you are just constantly seeing things like, oh, that's a

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 3>weird thing from the ocean. Don't know what that is.

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cryptozoology hadn't been invented yet, so you couldn't like

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>take a picture of it and claim that it's a

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, some sort of fantastic creature. They're just like,

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>well that's expected.

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Really, it's a chepiccopra, it's got to be. So. Yeah.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 3>They determined that the whole ocean floor must have been

0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 3>torn up by what appeared to be a volcanic coertion,

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 3>the thing that damaged their boat. But they dock, they

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 3>meet some local fishermen who are not very friendly and

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>mostly don't speak English. They just kind of cuss them

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 3>out in Gaelic, and eventually they come to a house

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>where they meet a little boy who will become another

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 3>one of the main characters of this movie. The boy

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 3>is Sean. He is introduced as an orphan boy who

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 3>assists the harbormaster mccarton. And you know what, I give

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 3>credit to this child actor. He does a much better

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 3>job than you might expect with his role. But also

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 3>they have him dressed up in some funny clothes. When

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 3>we were watching it, Rachel was observing that, like they

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 3>just have Sean in these gigantic clothes, like he's wearing

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>this huge sweater tucked into huge pants.

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but yeah, he does become important. He's an

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>important character, not just a one off. And as we

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of alluded to earlier, Yeah, this whole first act

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>has kind of a full car vibe to it. A

0:42:56.680 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>solid mysterious atmosphere is rolled out, and I'd say they

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 1>also venture into sort of like soft lovecrafty and othering

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>of the Irish here with this whole like, oh, they

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.879
<v Speaker 1>can't understand them. There's something creepy going on here in

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>this this Irish village, which I mean, as we'll find out,

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>nothing really that creepy is going on, but they kind

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 1>of create this air of mystery.

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, the way they're first introduced, you might expect

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 3>that the like all the people on the island are

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 3>part of a cult that worships Gorgo or something. That's

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 3>not the case. They're like, they're just as baffled and

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 3>terrified by Gorgo as anybody else, it seems. Yeah. But anyway,

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 3>So Sean invites our heroes into the harbor Master's cabin

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 3>and he informs them that macarton is not the harbor Master.

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Mccarton is not actually a local Sean says, instead a

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 3>city man. He is a government man. Calls himself an archaeologist.

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 3>So I was a little confused by this. Mccarton is

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:03.280
<v Speaker 3>simultaneous the harbormaster and a working archaeologist.

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like a lot of roles were combined

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>into one. This was originally just gonna be the whole movie,

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>his tinkering around in the small village.

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point. This in an earlier draft. I

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 3>wonder if this was two different characters that were combined

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 3>into one. Yeah, could have been anyway. Sean says he

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 3>works for mcarton, quote, cleaning up the things he finds,

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 3>and Seawan asks if they want to see these things

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 3>that he cleans up for mcarton. Turns out mccarton is

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 3>he's got like a back room where he is piling

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 3>up a secret stash of priceless Viking artifacts left over

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 3>from a great sea battle a thousand years ago when

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 3>the Irish drove off the Vikings and sank their ships.

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 3>And Sean says that apparently fighting in the Irish's corner

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 3>was a sea spirit called Ogra, and he points up

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 3>to a figure of like a dragon head that I

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 3>guess is supposed to be a representation Ogra.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a nice shot, I mean, in a way, it

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of reminds me of the early scenes in The

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Exorcist where we haven't seen anything demonic yet. We see

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 1>that statue of the zoo Zu and it's you know,

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it's ominous and really one of the creepier moments of

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>a film that you know, in its later stages is

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>less concerned with being subtly creepy and more in your face.

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the dogs are fighting in the rubbisheep well while

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 3>he's looking at the statue. Yeah.

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And in a similar way, this is a movie

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that is going to be very in your face later on.

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>But at this point we haven't seen the monster and

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 1>we just have this nice subtle idea, you know, the

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of the mythic potency of the idea.

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 3>So just then in the artifact room, they are interrupted

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 3>by mccarton, the city man. McCartin is borderline hostile from

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 3>the get go. He seems to be wanting to protect

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 3>his stash of Viking stuff, and he says, by orders

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 3>of the local authorities, no ship is allowed to put

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:57.240
<v Speaker 3>into port at Nara for more than twenty four hours

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 3>without a permit. So Joe and Sam plea for help.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 3>After all, he's like, you know, the ocean boiled, something

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 3>wrecked our engine. But mccarton will not budge on this.

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I don't make the rules. It's never established

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.439
<v Speaker 3>who does make the rules. But they cannot come into

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 3>port except to get some water and leave. So on

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 3>the way back to their ship, Sam and Joe run

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:22.359
<v Speaker 3>into some local boats who at first cust them out

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 3>in Gaelic and then report that they are waiting for

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 3>some divers to come up. And when one of the

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 3>divers does turn up, he is dead. At this so

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 3>they pull him on board the boat, and Sam looks

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 3>at the dead diver and concludes that he died of fright.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.279
<v Speaker 3>And I always wonder how you can tell that in

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 3>movies just by looking at people.

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, without like a Star Trek medical scanner device.

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Usually sometimes there's a vision that they make it abundantly clear,

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>like suddenly the hair is turned white, or they're like

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 1>severe distortions allah the ring. But for the most part

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 1>in films like this, it's like, out, let's touch him

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>on the neck. He's dead, Jim.

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 3>So we get a diving scene next. Sam and Joe

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 3>are on the case. They're trying to figure out what

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 3>are they trying to figure out? I don't know. They

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 3>go down to investigate, I think, what could have scared

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 3>the diver that killed him.

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>And they also are just suspicious. They're suspicious of this archaeologist.

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 1>They're like, something is up, and we want to find

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 1>out what is up and what he's up to. And

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that's why they're going freelance.

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Here, that's right. So they just they like scoop it down.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 3>And I really like in this scene that they just

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of see gorgo. He's just down there swimming around

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:34.359
<v Speaker 3>the water is murky, so you don't get a great

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 3>look at him yet, but you just see this like

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 3>lizard rat swimming through the water. And they come back up.

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 3>They're sitting there in their scuba gear smoking cigarettes, and

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 3>Joe says, what did you see, Sam? And Sam says,

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but whatever it was and never want

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 3>to see it again. Unfortunately you will in the next scene.

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 3>So later on the salvage ship they're bringing aboard barrels.

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 3>I think this is the fresh water they asked for,

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 3>and Sean the child shows up on the boat. He

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 3>says that mccarton wants to see them, uh, and then

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 3>he also says that the permit is a heathen lie.

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know exactly what this meant.

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Sean is ready to sell out his village

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.359
<v Speaker 1>to any outsider salvage crew that is just halfway nice

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>to it.

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's nothing so far to establish that Joe and

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Sam are nice people like they.

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 1>They're like everybody's in the business of finding stuff lost

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:28.799
<v Speaker 1>on the seafloor and stealing it for your own purposes. Yeah,

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's implied that that these guys are okay, whereas

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the archaeologist is clearly up to no good.

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 3>He's a city man. Yeah. Yeah, Are Sam and Joe

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 3>not citymen? What makes one a city man?

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess they're they're they're seenen. They're navy men.

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Right, Okay, Yeah, there are men of the salt. Yeah,

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 3>of the salt in the wind. Okay. So the next

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 3>thing that happens is the atmosphere gets pretty cool, like

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 3>the locals appear to be preparing for something weird. I

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 3>would say this scene like a cross between Jaws and

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:06.320
<v Speaker 3>The wicker Man. We see locals loading into boats rowboats

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 3>with flaming torches and harpoons and one harpooneer spies something

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 3>in the water and then lets his dart fly, and

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 3>then we see gorgo. We see this head, this like

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 3>rat lizard type head pop up out of the water

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 3>with red eyes, with a with a harpoon I think,

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 3>stuck in his eye. And Sean informs us that this

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 3>is Ogre, this is the sea spirit. So then we

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 3>get kind of a battle scene that is Ogre versus

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 3>the boat Posse. And then after this, Ogre comes on

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 3>shore and attacks the harbor. He's like stomping around smashing things,

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 3>and mccarton seems to be in command of the locals.

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 3>He's like he's like commanding a group of men with

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 3>rifles who get into formation and shoot it Ogra. But

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 3>does it do anything, of course, not.

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 1>How did they control the monster in ancient times? I

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>feel like like ultimately the the alluded to backstory is

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>far more fascinating than anything we'd get into later on

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>in the film, Like what was that encounter like between

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the Irish and their monster and the Viking invaders? Like

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to see that prequel.

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we never really learned any more about that, do we.

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe they controlled the monster with the religion. That's

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that would make sense, That would be interesting.

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 3>But I do like a lot of the way the

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 3>scene looks like there are some shots of, you know,

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 3>from a distance, of the monster, the monster sort of

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 3>walking through the harbor, and then you see all the

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 3>people running around with their fires and torches trying to

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 3>stand off against him. It is a It's actually a

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 3>surprisingly dark and cool looking scene. Yeah, I agree, But

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 3>of course the locals are completely ineffective at repelling the creature.

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Their harpoons and bullets do nothing. But the outsider Sam

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 3>and Joe they have an idea. They have the idea

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 3>of throwing sticks at Gorgo. Technically, they throw flaming torches

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 3>at Gore or Ogra, whatever the creature is called. At

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 3>this point, I can't remember what we specified so far.

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 3>So far, but to be clear, nobody in the movie

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 3>has said the word Gorgo yet. That name will come later.

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:13.280
<v Speaker 3>So they throw some torches. Gorgo gets the torches stuck

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 3>in his teeth. Then he squeals, walks backwards into the water,

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 3>almost as if moving in reverse. I think this actually

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:22.760
<v Speaker 3>is a reverse shot, and then sinks back into the waves.

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>So they drove him away.

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 3>It worked, right, And after the attack the locals are

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 3>mad at mccarton and I wasn't your wily Is Gorgo

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.240
<v Speaker 3>his fault? Don't see any reason to think.

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>So now, I mean, I mean, we know the viewer

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 1>knows that this probably has something to do with the

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:44.719
<v Speaker 1>volcanic activity, yeah, and that they're thinking, oh, it's because

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>he's still in all that Viking gold. But that, I mean,

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>did it unless you were going to make some sort

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 1>of crazy hypothesis in which the theft of Viking gold

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.959
<v Speaker 1>from the seafloor caused some sort of volcanic reaction.

0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 3>There's no indication of that in the film or and

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 3>also from what I can tell, no indication that Gorgo

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 3>cares about the Viking artifacts or the gold anyway. So

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 3>the locals are mad at mccarton. They start saying, hey,

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 3>we want to leave with Sam and Joe on their

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 3>salvage ship when it's repaired, but mccarton tries to talk

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:19.240
<v Speaker 3>them out of that, and eventually Sam and Joe retreat

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 3>with mccarton into his harbormaster's shack to discuss a deal.

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 3>They know that Macarton is secretly trying to protect the

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Viking treasure, which I guess he plans to keep for himself.

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 3>He reveals that he has a safe full of what

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 3>looked like Holy Grails.

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, different Holy Grail prototypes in there.

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got, like I can see at least fifteen

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Holy Grails in there. And Sam and Joe offer a trade.

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 3>They say, if Macarton pays them off in some of

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 3>the Viking gold, they will get rid of the monster

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 3>for him. So they make a deal. So they leave,

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 3>but then Sean the kid follows them and he does

0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 3>not like the idea of them catching Ogra. He catches

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:04.359
<v Speaker 3>up to them and he says, it's a bad thing.

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 3>You're doing a terrible bad thing, mister Ryan, And then

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Joe Ryan kneels next to the kid. He says, why

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 3>don't you call me Joe, and Sean says okay Joe,

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:20.879
<v Speaker 3>And Joe says okay Sean. End of conversation. So next

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 3>time a child accuses you of doing evil, just remember

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 3>you get on a first name basis. It'll totally distract them.

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:28.959
<v Speaker 1>But I love the set up here, Like we're really

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 1>cooking with gas now. The idea is that these guys

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 1>are going to catch the monster in order to make

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that sweet Viking gold, and so this is the challenge

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 1>ahead of them. There's no indication that they actually have

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.839
<v Speaker 1>the ability to do this, but they're going to set

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:46.840
<v Speaker 1>out and try to do it anyway.

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:49.319
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Well, at first they're like, how would you

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 3>even kill a creature like that? Maybe you'd use dynamite

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 3>or something, But then they consider, actually, what is a

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 3>creature like that worth alive? Maybe it's worth more alive.

0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:03.359
<v Speaker 3>So from here move on to the bathistsphere scene. Though

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 3>this bathistphere is not a sphere. It is not spherical.

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:11.320
<v Speaker 3>It's sort of the Bathist cylinder. And Joe gets into

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.760
<v Speaker 3>this metal contraption with some portholes on it that looks

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 3>incredibly small inside, and I don't know, this is a

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:25.319
<v Speaker 3>cool scene concept though it doesn't look as amazing as

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I think it could have.

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Weldon points out that this section of the film is

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty much a direct remake of a scene in The

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Beast from twenty thousand Fathoms, and so I had to

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 1>look it up because again I've only really seen the

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 1>monster sequences from that movie. And indeed there's another Bathtisphere

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>segment that you can watch. So they basically were like, well,

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:46.959
<v Speaker 1>that worked last time, let's do it again. But yeah,

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to your point, I think it works better in the

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>mind that it does on screen, at least by modern standards.

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe this was a lot more impressive

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 1>at the time.

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Also, the bathistphere in this movie is like a tartist

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:00.759
<v Speaker 3>and that it is much bigger on the inside then

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 3>on the outside. We see Joe Ryan inside there, and

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's quite roomy actually on the inside though.

0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially concerns how big this actor is again, yeah,

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:13.359
<v Speaker 1>he has he has so much room. And if you're

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 1>curious about all this, we did some episodes of stuff

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 1>to blow your mind back in the day about the

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Bathisphere and about the construction of it and the size

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 1>of it, and some of the amazing observations that were

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:28.319
<v Speaker 1>made with it. It's an amazing story and I can

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>totally understand wanting to capture that in the film, and

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I guess to a certain extent they do. Like I

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of of of the small capsule being

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>lowered into this vast, unexplored world, like of that world

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 1>as vast and as large scale as your giant monsters,

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>though being very much an outsider in it, in this

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable little capsule.

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, the thing to remember about the Bathisphere

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 3>is that it has no propulsion of its own, so

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 3>it's just dangling by this cable. So if it were

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:04.400
<v Speaker 3>to somehow that's it. You're not coming back up. Yeah. Well, anyway,

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 3>so they send Joe down there and they make contact.

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 3>There's a Gorgo attack. Gorgo attacks the Bathosphere and ooh,

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 3>you hear these like tin can crunching sounds and you

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 3>see water spraying on the inside. But there is not

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.840
<v Speaker 3>a catastrophic implosion. Joe is not killed. Instead, the ship

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 3>successfully traps Gorgo in a net.

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a lackluster finish to that though, because

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like the bathistphere. Oh, high technology, and then they

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 1>just use a net just yeah.

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and then we get some news reports and

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:37.680
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what we've said about this already, but

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 3>from here on out the movie will become highly reliant

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:46.279
<v Speaker 3>on news reports for both plot exposition and for exploration

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:50.400
<v Speaker 3>of themes. Uh, we're just going to get reporters telling

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 3>us what's going on and what it means, over and over.

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it basically goes all Santa Claus conquers the Martians

0:56:57.320 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 1>for a bit here where it's yeah, a bunch of

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:04.800
<v Speaker 1>news expert interviews, and of course our all time favorite

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>stock footage. So much stock footage, though at least this

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:11.880
<v Speaker 1>time around it's British military stock footage, which has, you know,

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a different texture to it compared to the like nineteen

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.919
<v Speaker 1>fifties and sixties US military stock footage that you see

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>in so many films of that era.

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:22.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we haven't gotten exactly to the point where stock

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 3>footage becomes super prevalent yet. That'll come a little later

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 3>into the second act. Right now, we're at the at

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 3>the like peak newscaster stuff. So we get a newscast

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:38.600
<v Speaker 3>where this guy at a desk explains what's happening. He says,

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 3>the headlines of the entire world are being monopolized by

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:44.720
<v Speaker 3>the news of the capture of a fantastic monster seemingly

0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 3>of prehistoric origin off the coast of Ireland. Puzzled scientists

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 3>are already speculating that the monster may have been released

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 3>from some vast suboceanic cavern far beneath Earth's crust by

0:57:57.000 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 3>unprecedented volcanic eruptions which occurred in the last week. And

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 3>then meanwhile, we also get this other guy who, like

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 3>we cut to a different newscaster who says some scientific

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 3>authorities are suggesting that the whole thing is merely an

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 3>elaborate Irish hoax. Nevertheless, the Irish government are sending two

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 3>of their top paleontologists to claim the creature for Ireland

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 3>if it does exist.

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I also have to throw in here that, you know,

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I think all organisms are of prehistoric origin, if you

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:33.439
<v Speaker 1>want to be technical about it. So I don't really

0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 1>know what that means. What do you mean of prehistoric origin?

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know what they're getting at, but I'm

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>just not sure it makes sense.

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, We've watched a lot of movies with plot

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 3>exposition via like a newsdesk segment, and I feel like

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:47.560
<v Speaker 3>at some point we should go back and rank the

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 3>newscaster segments. I want to say, these guys, they're no

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Dick Cutting. Now what was he that he was in

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 3>a creature with the Adam brain right? He was, Yes, yeah,

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 3>he's the Walter Krung kind of monster attacks. Always always

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Trustick Cutting. Let's see here. Oh yeah. Then we get

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 3>the transport segment. So we see gorgo on the salvage ship.

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 3>He's like tied up in ropes and nets. He's being

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 3>taken somewhere. The scientists from Dublin who are mentioned in

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 3>the news report, they arrive on the boat and they say,

0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:22.240
<v Speaker 3>this animal is of enormous scientific value. You must take

0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:25.640
<v Speaker 3>it to Dublin immediately, and its skin must be kept wet.

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 3>But then, when the scientists are out of earshot Sam

0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 3>and Joe, one of them pulls out like a letter.

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 3>They got, I think, which is a better offer. It

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:40.240
<v Speaker 3>is from Dorkin's circus in London, and they say that

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Dorkin is offering them thirty thousand against fifty percent of

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 3>the gross So are these hardened mercenaries going to turn

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Gorgo over to the clutches of science for a pittance

0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:53.800
<v Speaker 3>of compensation? Hell no, No, they're going to go They're

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 3>going to send him to the circus of Dorkin. So

0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:01.240
<v Speaker 3>they set the course for London. I think the scientists

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:04.320
<v Speaker 3>from Dublin are still on the ship as the ship

1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 3>is like departing, like going in the other direction to

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 3>take the monster to London. So I assume they're protesting

1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:16.920
<v Speaker 3>the entire time. Oh. Also, Sean comes along on the

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:20.160
<v Speaker 3>ship and I don't know why, but he's on the

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:22.760
<v Speaker 3>ship now. I think he has now just become the

1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:28.040
<v Speaker 3>ward of Sam and Joe. And Sean comes to Oh

1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:29.680
<v Speaker 3>he comes out in the middle of the night and

1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 3>talks to Gorgo. He's like, I came to let you

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 3>go back to the sea, and tries to release him.

1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:37.400
<v Speaker 3>But then Joe comes out and gets mad at Sean

1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:40.200
<v Speaker 3>and he says, you, little nuthead, I have a gutton

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 3>notion to toss you over the side.

1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.440
<v Speaker 1>But we get a little bit of the natural affinity

1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that a young child has for a giant monster. You know,

1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:51.800
<v Speaker 1>this is of course something recently see especially in the

1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Gamera movies. Camera is a friend to children.

1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's never established that Gorgo is a friend to

1:00:57.000 --> 1:01:00.400
<v Speaker 3>all children. But Sean is like naturally drawn to Gorgo.

1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:05.360
<v Speaker 3>There are scenes later where Gorgo spoiler Gorgo's mother is

1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:09.080
<v Speaker 3>destroying London and Sean while all the crowds are running away,

1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Sean runs.

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Toward kids get Kaijuk. They understand that's part of the connection.

1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:26.000
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, Joe and Sam they put armed guards on Gorgo.

1:01:26.240 --> 1:01:29.040
<v Speaker 3>They say, if that thing moves, start shooting. But why

1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:31.560
<v Speaker 3>would they do that. Isn't like this thing being alive.

1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Their meal ticket as so Gorgo, I think kills a

1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:38.560
<v Speaker 3>guard in the middle of the night. And they also

1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:41.920
<v Speaker 3>mentioned that Gorgo is dripping some kind of phosphorescent ooze

1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:44.680
<v Speaker 3>into the water as they travel that won't come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Later they arrive in London and we get a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of shots of London and some things that are interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Rob I included one screenshot for you to look at here,

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<v Speaker 3>because what we're looking at is like in the background

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<v Speaker 3>a real of the Thames with like the Tower Bridge

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<v Speaker 3>in the background. But then in the foreground there is

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<v Speaker 3>a it's supposed to be a tent like a circus

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<v Speaker 3>tent that says Gorgo over the top of it, so

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<v Speaker 3>now we're actually seeing the name, and then there are

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<v Speaker 3>painted cutouts of people in front of the circus tent,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're not actors. They're like stands of people. But

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<v Speaker 3>it cuts away pretty quickly, so if you weren't able

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<v Speaker 3>to pause, you might think they were really standing there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it gets just a quick mat painting here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not in there interesting. So there's some conflict here.

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<v Speaker 3>When they arrive in London, the scientists from Dublin are

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<v Speaker 3>mad that Sam and Joe have decided to sell the

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<v Speaker 3>animal to Dorkin instead of handing it over for research,

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<v Speaker 3>and they point out that it may be carrying unknown

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<v Speaker 3>diseases or parasites. It hasn't been studied yet, but Dorkin

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<v Speaker 3>has got that sweet cash for them. And Dorkin also

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<v Speaker 3>makes assurances to the scientists. He's like, don't worry, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll We'll be giving you every opportunity to study the

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<v Speaker 3>creature while it is held in a con creep pit

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<v Speaker 3>for the gauking crowds I'm selling tickets to. And Dorkin

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<v Speaker 3>is a real like pencil mustache, bow tie wearing money freak.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's very clear that he is a villain

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<v Speaker 1>in this picture. We're not giving a lot of reason

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<v Speaker 1>to sympathize with this case.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and then we get the Gorgo in chains parade

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<v Speaker 3>through London. I think this scene was amazing. So there

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<v Speaker 3>is like this parade of trucks or lorries I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that say Dorkins Circus and say Gorgo on them. And

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<v Speaker 3>one of them is like a flatbed truck that has

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgo on the trailer and he's like wrapped in a

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<v Speaker 3>big tarp that says Gorgo, covered in chains, and it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like it's like tied to Saint Dronicus, like marching

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<v Speaker 3>into Rome with the Queen of the Goths in a cage.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's all for Dorkin and and I guess it

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<v Speaker 3>was Dorkin's idea to call the creature Gorgo because it's

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<v Speaker 3>written on all of his circus stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he knows you got to brand it, so that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. And yeah, this this whole sequence is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>great because it's it's weird, and also you get lots

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<v Speaker 1>of period shots of London. I really enjoy just seeing

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<v Speaker 1>all of like the neon and the signage and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and these are real location shots, so they actually

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<v Speaker 3>must have like driven a truck with a thing that

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<v Speaker 3>said Gorgo on it in front of Buckingham Palace and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that, and we get another newscast that's saying

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<v Speaker 3>we bring you the in our most unusual telecast today,

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<v Speaker 3>we bring you the arrival of Gorgo. This creature, which

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<v Speaker 3>should have been extinct ten million years ago, is truly

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<v Speaker 3>an awesome sight as it is transported through the streets

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<v Speaker 3>of modern London on its way to Battersea Park and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a big sign for Gordon's Gin in the background,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's just ads all over the place and the

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<v Speaker 3>newscast goes on. Of course, Londoners are notoriously skeptical, and

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<v Speaker 3>a good many we've spoken to still seem to think

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<v Speaker 3>it's some kind of circus stunt. The animal is real,

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<v Speaker 3>take my word for it. And they go on to

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<v Speaker 3>it to say, well, the streets have been cleared, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, rest assured there is no danger. The animal

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<v Speaker 3>has been given a large dose of tranquilizer and actually

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<v Speaker 3>being so close to this thing, I could do with

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<v Speaker 3>a large dose of tranquilizer myself. But jokes aside, the

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<v Speaker 3>animal has killed a number of persons already. Oh and finally,

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<v Speaker 3>this is also the newscast where when the guy is saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we've arrived at Battersea Park where Gorgo as he is

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<v Speaker 3>called we don't know why, will be exhibited to the public.

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<v Speaker 3>And Gorgo is like you can just straight up see

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgo on the back of the truck, like his eyes

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<v Speaker 3>are open and they're glowing red, but he's all tied down,

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<v Speaker 3>and Gorgo in captivity like this does look very pitiable,

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<v Speaker 3>like they achieve in tugging on the heart strings, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm already feeling bad for Gorgo and they haven't even

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<v Speaker 3>really gotten to the part where you're supposed to feel

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<v Speaker 3>super bad for him yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I can't help but feel as cool

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<v Speaker 1>as these scenes are, Dorkin's kind of giving it away here,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone gets a free peak at Gorgo, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna sell tickets to have Gorgo do more than

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<v Speaker 1>just be present.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that's a good point, yeah, Dorkin, you

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<v Speaker 3>would think he'd be keeping more of a lid on it,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe just trying to give people the tiniest tease

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<v Speaker 3>so that they will have to come pay for a ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, like you can see you can see Gorgo's

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<v Speaker 3>face on the truck because.

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<v Speaker 1>We know from King Kong that like a ticketed King

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<v Speaker 1>Kong presentation consists of King Kong chained on stage and

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<v Speaker 1>there's not much to it. I remember The Simpsons Treehouse

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<v Speaker 1>of Horror has some jokes kind of alluding to this

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, like, like, what was the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>show going to consist of? You just sit there looking

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<v Speaker 1>at King Kong? But you know, what's the Gorgo show

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<v Speaker 1>going to consist of? Is there an opening act? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there some sort of a finale you're working towards. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he going to do any trick or is he just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tied up more or less like he

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<v Speaker 1>is in this whole sequence.

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<v Speaker 3>He was supposed to read Gorgo then puppet show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but so oh and we see so like for some reason,

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<v Speaker 3>Sam and Joe are still involved, and they don't just

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<v Speaker 3>like hand Gorgo off to Dorkin at the port and

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<v Speaker 3>then take their money and go. They're like they seem

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<v Speaker 3>to be Gorgo's full time caretakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, despite having no qualifications, no qualifications for this

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they're they're salvage divers. What what do they what

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<v Speaker 3>do they know about Gorgo? But Joe, Joe Ryan still

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<v Speaker 3>has his captain's hat on by the way, But there's

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<v Speaker 3>like a Dorkin press conference, and this is the part

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<v Speaker 3>where one of the reporters is like, you know, is

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<v Speaker 3>it true that you stole this from the Irish government?

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<v Speaker 3>And Dorkin is like, yeah, they may take it back soon.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got to get your tickets to see Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>today while it's still here. So yeah, like we said,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe and Sam they're still in handling Gorgo and during

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<v Speaker 3>transport they're trying to put it in its enclosure, and

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<v Speaker 3>Gorko is awakened from his tranquilizer slumber by camera flashes

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<v Speaker 3>of irresponsible reporters. That seems familiar. Was that in King Kong?

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe it was? And there is a brief

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgo rampage at the circus where he is eventually driven back.

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<v Speaker 3>He's driven into his concrete pit by men with flame throwers.

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<v Speaker 3>There seems to be a theme that fires Gorgo's weakness,

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<v Speaker 3>but Gorgo kills some people with his tail on the

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<v Speaker 3>way back to his concrete pit, including a friend of

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<v Speaker 3>Joe and Sam's named Mike, and Sam seems more disturbed

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<v Speaker 3>by this than Joe does, but eventually they get Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>locked away and then we're just treated to some shots

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<v Speaker 3>of like London having Gorgo fever. So there are double

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<v Speaker 3>decker buses that all say Gorgo on the side of them.

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<v Speaker 3>We see the I guess it's Piccadilly Circus maybe, or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some like streets of London where there are

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<v Speaker 3>just Gorgo signs all over the place, next to big

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<v Speaker 3>posters for Schwepes and Gordon's Gin and stuff. We see

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<v Speaker 3>fireworks for Gorgo. There's cotton candy and rides at the circus,

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<v Speaker 3>and Dorkin is out like barking in front of the

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<v Speaker 3>circus entrance saying everyone in the world is talking about Gorgo,

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<v Speaker 3>but only you can see him. Only five shillings ladies

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<v Speaker 3>and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're you know, they're selling ice cream and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And we see all of the British circus goers standing

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<v Speaker 3>at the edge of this concrete pit where Gorgo is

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<v Speaker 3>in chain, standing in like a puddle of water. They're

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<v Speaker 3>all eating cotton candy and bananas and gaulking at this

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<v Speaker 3>creature and just poor Gorgo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we you feel a lot of sympathy for

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<v Speaker 1>the monster at this point, because yeah, he's just he's

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<v Speaker 1>in this pit and people are gawking at him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he does not belong here. Gorgo was born.

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<v Speaker 3>Free exactly, and he's also he's supposed to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the sea. This is a point that Sean makes multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just that he's in captivity, that's bad enough,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's being kept on land and like hosed down

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<v Speaker 3>with water. Gorgo is a sea creature. And we get

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<v Speaker 3>a scene where we see how Sam and Joe are

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with their success. Differently, Joe is like living it up.

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<v Speaker 3>We see he's got like a nice new suit on

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<v Speaker 3>and he seems to be flashing his wealth. And Sam, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>is shown apparently just like hiding in a trailer at

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<v Speaker 3>the circus where perhaps Sean is living. Like Sean, the

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<v Speaker 3>kid is seen sleeping there. Again, it's not exactly clear,

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<v Speaker 3>but it almost suggests that like Sam and Joe have

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<v Speaker 3>adopted Sean. Maybe I don't like they are taking care

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<v Speaker 3>of him now. And Sam is seen drinking heavily and

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<v Speaker 3>he says and like Joe comes in and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how about coming out and having a few drinks,

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<v Speaker 3>And Sam's like, I'm having a few drinks right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam is clearly not happy with how things are going,

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<v Speaker 3>and Joe is like, stop having feelings. Let's just take

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<v Speaker 3>the money and you know, be happy. But Sam has

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<v Speaker 3>a Sam has a bad premonition about everything. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>something bad's gonna happen. I can just feel it suddenly,

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<v Speaker 3>And what do you know, it's it's prescient because they

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<v Speaker 3>get a phone call and it's an urgent meeting with

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<v Speaker 3>the scientists from Dublin and they're like, hey, we figured

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<v Speaker 3>something out. The creature you captured is not an adult specimen. Yeah, whoops,

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<v Speaker 3>not an adult specimen. And then Sam says, you mean

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<v Speaker 3>it isn't fully grown. They say no, in fact, it's

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<v Speaker 3>very early in infancy. And they're like, okay, well what

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<v Speaker 3>would an adult look like? And then they open up

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<v Speaker 3>this page where they just like put a finger down

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<v Speaker 3>on this illustration of two gorgo skeletons that are exactly

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<v Speaker 3>the same, but one is like ten times bigger than.

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<v Speaker 1>The other, and it's you know, it's not quite an

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<v Speaker 1>actual Gorgosaurus skeleton that they have illustrated here, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is more in keeping with a realistic This may be

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<v Speaker 1>another dinosaur species that they're just using the skeleton illustration from,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is very hard to imagine the monster that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen having this skeleton at at the center of it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of meat on those bones.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they're upset. They're like, wow, that would make

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<v Speaker 3>the adult nearly two hundred feet tall. And the scientists

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<v Speaker 3>are like, yep, so obviously we got to notify the authorities.

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<v Speaker 3>And Joe responds by saying, what are you trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do stir up a whole hornet's nest because of a

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<v Speaker 3>few calculations on a piece of paper. Nuts to that,

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<v Speaker 3>Nuts to that, I say. Then next we see Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>back in his enclosing. So he's in this concrete pit

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<v Speaker 3>and it's surrounded by electric fencing, but we see Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>testing the fences for weaknesses systematically. He remembers Clever Girl exactly. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>back on Nara Island, remember Macarton, the corrupt archaeologist and

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<v Speaker 3>harbor master. While we see him in his harbor master shack,

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<v Speaker 3>just examining his precious Viking gold with a magnifying glass.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess this is all he does in his free time.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's sitting there and then suddenly a Gorgo like

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<v Speaker 3>creature rises up out of the sea and attacks Nara

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<v Speaker 3>and McMartin or mccarton is crushed, and so oh you

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<v Speaker 3>know what's next. This is Gorgo's mom and the Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>matriarch is on the way to London.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, he messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>Now humans, So we see all the British radio operators,

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<v Speaker 3>naval authorities, they're trying to make contact with Nara Island,

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<v Speaker 3>but not a word from them. And then so the

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<v Speaker 3>next thing is, let's see if we can use our

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<v Speaker 3>precious national stock footage reserves to figure out what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So we see lots of naval engagements, so stock footage

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<v Speaker 3>of like battleships moving their guns around and firing into

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<v Speaker 3>the water and chugging along, and then close ups of

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<v Speaker 3>just admirals with binoculars looking out over the water. There

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<v Speaker 3>is a naval engagement between a battleship and Gorgo's mother.

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<v Speaker 3>Who do you think is going to prevail here?

1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:01.280
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be the monster.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course we see the authorities back in London

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<v Speaker 3>making these gloating statements about how the creature was undoubtedly destroyed,

1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:11.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, it could not possibly be a match for

1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:13.680
<v Speaker 3>our navy. But then they get a phone call and

1:14:13.760 --> 1:14:15.320
<v Speaker 3>we see this guy on the phone. He's like, oh

1:14:15.400 --> 1:14:19.639
<v Speaker 3>really capsized. Oh't know. So they're getting the bad news

1:14:19.680 --> 1:14:23.080
<v Speaker 3>and they figure out that the creature is Gorgo's mother,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is on the way to London, following a

1:14:26.760 --> 1:14:30.080
<v Speaker 3>trail left in the sea, the ooze that had been

1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:32.559
<v Speaker 3>dripping off of Gorgo when they traveled by boat.

1:14:33.200 --> 1:14:35.439
<v Speaker 1>M she's coming after him.

1:14:35.720 --> 1:14:37.960
<v Speaker 3>So what are you going to do. We've got a bigger,

1:14:38.040 --> 1:14:41.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, ten times bigger monster on the way. Sam

1:14:41.320 --> 1:14:44.120
<v Speaker 3>has an idea, as Sam says, well, we got to

1:14:44.280 --> 1:14:46.400
<v Speaker 3>turn Gorgo loose. We got to let him loose and

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<v Speaker 3>send him back to the sea while we've still got

1:14:48.160 --> 1:14:51.439
<v Speaker 3>a chance. But Dorkin and Joe do not want to

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<v Speaker 3>lose out on their profits. Joe says, what's the matter

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<v Speaker 3>with you? This is the twentieth century. There must be

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<v Speaker 3>some way of handling an overgrown animal. And the admirals

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<v Speaker 3>give assurances that there will be no problem stopping this creature.

1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:08.120
<v Speaker 3>So like the authorities are like, no, no, no, don't

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<v Speaker 3>release Gorgo. You keep making money at the circus. We

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<v Speaker 3>will defeat the monster. And then later that night we

1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:18.799
<v Speaker 3>see Sam. Sam gets drunk and tries to release Gorgo,

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<v Speaker 3>and this leads to a fight with Joe, in which

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<v Speaker 3>Sam is knocked unconscious and Gorgo is not released. Sean

1:15:25.240 --> 1:15:28.720
<v Speaker 3>is just here like watching these adults fight. And then

1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Gorgo's mother arrives, and from here until the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the movie, it is just a long series of Mother

1:15:35.240 --> 1:15:39.439
<v Speaker 3>Gorgo attacks Mother Gorgo versus more of the British Navy.

1:15:39.520 --> 1:15:43.040
<v Speaker 3>They launch torpedoes, they bombard her with heavy guns, they

1:15:43.120 --> 1:15:47.000
<v Speaker 3>drop depth charges, all to no effect. She penetrates the defense,

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<v Speaker 3>swims up the estuary, up the river, and she's coming

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<v Speaker 3>for Battersea Park. There's a scene where she's like coming

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<v Speaker 3>up into the harbor. I guess this is on the

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<v Speaker 3>river in London, and the military tries to stop her

1:16:00.880 --> 1:16:03.799
<v Speaker 3>by dumping petrol in the river and setting it on fire,

1:16:03.880 --> 1:16:06.960
<v Speaker 3>and she clearly doesn't like that, but she is not deterred,

1:16:07.560 --> 1:16:10.519
<v Speaker 3>and Robbi caught a picture. There's one scene where it

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<v Speaker 3>just cuts to these random onlookers who are like watching

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<v Speaker 3>Mother Gorgo gets set on fire with these faces like wow,

1:16:17.840 --> 1:16:18.479
<v Speaker 3>so cool.

1:16:19.160 --> 1:16:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we also get a burning man stunt in

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, which was also quite terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh is that wait, what do you have in mind?

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody in the Gorgo suit or a human.

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<v Speaker 1>Human at some point in all of this, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a some of the chaos kind of melts together

1:16:37.400 --> 1:16:39.479
<v Speaker 1>in my mind. But I distinctly remember at least one

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<v Speaker 1>shot of a man on fire.

1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh interesting, I don't recall that, but I believe you.

1:16:44.880 --> 1:16:47.000
<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of effects back to back here,

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<v Speaker 3>so they kind of like they wash over you. At

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<v Speaker 3>some point, but we see the army and civil defense

1:16:53.000 --> 1:16:56.719
<v Speaker 3>authorities making emergency announcements. They start clearing out the streets.

1:16:56.720 --> 1:17:00.320
<v Speaker 3>They're running around on bullhorns saying don't panic, will be

1:17:00.360 --> 1:17:04.000
<v Speaker 3>notified when the emergency is over. These shots of people

1:17:04.040 --> 1:17:06.679
<v Speaker 3>running around, there are tanks in the streets. We see

1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:10.200
<v Speaker 3>officials discuss the possibility of using atomic weapons, but they

1:17:10.240 --> 1:17:11.679
<v Speaker 3>decide against it wisely.

1:17:12.560 --> 1:17:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1:17:12.880 --> 1:17:15.840
<v Speaker 3>And then we see Gorgo's mother just smashing landmarks, so

1:17:15.880 --> 1:17:19.680
<v Speaker 3>she comes up on the tower bridge smashes it. At

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<v Speaker 3>some point we get close ups on these British soldiers

1:17:22.600 --> 1:17:24.479
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, why do they look like they're they're

1:17:24.520 --> 1:17:27.080
<v Speaker 3>outfitted to go fight in World War One?

1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I assume this was the standard uniform of the day.

1:17:30.960 --> 1:17:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Gorgo would get it, right.

1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I believe it. Yeah, they it is surprisingly antiquated looking

1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:40.960
<v Speaker 3>like uniforms and helmets. But maybe that that was the

1:17:41.040 --> 1:17:45.439
<v Speaker 3>outfit in sixty one. Yeah, but you know, nothing stop

1:17:45.479 --> 1:17:48.599
<v Speaker 3>in Mother Gorgo. So uh, as we were talking about earlier,

1:17:49.479 --> 1:17:51.960
<v Speaker 3>the city smashing does go on for a long time

1:17:52.120 --> 1:17:54.840
<v Speaker 3>and it gets somewhat tedious. I would say, Uh, this

1:17:55.000 --> 1:17:57.080
<v Speaker 3>is I would say, kind of a low point for

1:17:57.160 --> 1:17:59.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of giant monster movies. And it's a tough

1:17:59.240 --> 1:18:02.880
<v Speaker 3>balance because in way, the city smashing is what you're

1:18:02.880 --> 1:18:04.760
<v Speaker 3>there for. That's a part of the part of the

1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:07.320
<v Speaker 3>appeal of the movie. On the other hand, in a

1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:09.960
<v Speaker 3>lot of these movies, there's just more of it than

1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:11.040
<v Speaker 3>you actually need.

1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Eyes are always bigger than your stomach. Yeah. Yeah, this

1:18:15.320 --> 1:18:17.160
<v Speaker 1>looks great and they're like, oh wow, it's still it's

1:18:17.200 --> 1:18:21.599
<v Speaker 1>still happenings, still going, but you know the really memorable

1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:24.920
<v Speaker 1>moments of course, when the monster keys in on a

1:18:24.920 --> 1:18:27.479
<v Speaker 1>particular landmark and we do get some of that action here.

1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. So this one has the same issue a

1:18:30.720 --> 1:18:33.840
<v Speaker 3>lot of these movies do. The smashing I think goes

1:18:33.840 --> 1:18:36.200
<v Speaker 3>on a little too long. There's a surplus of it.

1:18:36.320 --> 1:18:39.200
<v Speaker 3>But on the other hand, as we said earlier, it's

1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:41.800
<v Speaker 3>superb model work. I love the way a lot of

1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:45.839
<v Speaker 3>this looks. It's very tactle and pleasurable smashing to observe.

1:18:46.400 --> 1:18:50.160
<v Speaker 3>At one point, I think, actually the army like accidentally

1:18:50.160 --> 1:18:54.439
<v Speaker 3>shoots Big Ben or the clock tower. They like launch

1:18:54.439 --> 1:18:58.280
<v Speaker 3>a missile through it, trying to hit mother Gorgo. So,

1:18:58.439 --> 1:18:59.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, how do you think this is going to end? Well,

1:19:00.120 --> 1:19:03.519
<v Speaker 3>power of tanks and guns and bombs stop Gorgo's mother,

1:19:03.960 --> 1:19:08.080
<v Speaker 3>what do you think? No, So we see, you know,

1:19:08.120 --> 1:19:10.599
<v Speaker 3>our characters running around trying to get out of Harm's way.

1:19:10.600 --> 1:19:14.800
<v Speaker 3>At one point, Sean is like drawn to Gorgo's mother.

1:19:14.920 --> 1:19:17.840
<v Speaker 3>He's like approaching her when everybody else is fleeing, and

1:19:17.880 --> 1:19:20.200
<v Speaker 3>we see Joe have kind of a hero turn. Joe

1:19:20.240 --> 1:19:23.640
<v Speaker 3>has been the selfish, the more selfish, greedy one in

1:19:23.640 --> 1:19:27.240
<v Speaker 3>this act so far, but when Shawn is in Harm's way,

1:19:27.320 --> 1:19:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Joe goes to rescue him and bring him out of

1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:32.439
<v Speaker 3>harms way, and we see Joe and Sean they're chased

1:19:32.439 --> 1:19:35.559
<v Speaker 3>into the underground and then the tunnels are collapsing and flooding,

1:19:35.560 --> 1:19:36.439
<v Speaker 3>but they make it out.

1:19:36.800 --> 1:19:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this segment with in the tunnels I thought was

1:19:41.280 --> 1:19:44.839
<v Speaker 1>very effective. Like in general, all of the monster destruction

1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:47.920
<v Speaker 1>going on you know, even though, like you said, there's

1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it, but we do cut to all

1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of these scenes of the crowds in full panic mode

1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and like the street level understanding of the destruction and

1:19:56.240 --> 1:19:59.880
<v Speaker 1>then our character level understanding of the destruction, and that

1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:02.599
<v Speaker 1>does make it feel a lot more real. And there's

1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:06.599
<v Speaker 1>one segment in particular where Joe and Sean are just

1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:10.280
<v Speaker 1>in there in the crowd crush. Everyone's just going down

1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:13.760
<v Speaker 1>into the tunnels, into the subway tunnels there, and there's

1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:17.559
<v Speaker 1>this terrifying scene where like they make it into the

1:20:17.960 --> 1:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>tunnels proper and behind them again crowds of people and

1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:26.880
<v Speaker 1>then the steveln collapses like Gorgo just destroys all of

1:20:26.920 --> 1:20:30.360
<v Speaker 1>them and like hundreds of people die. It's you know,

1:20:31.720 --> 1:20:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it would seem to be the case anyway, and only

1:20:34.400 --> 1:20:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Joe and Sean make it out. And I was like, oh,

1:20:37.080 --> 1:20:39.439
<v Speaker 1>that that was effective, Like that made me feel the

1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:43.280
<v Speaker 1>chaos and the destruction of these sequences. So it's not

1:20:43.680 --> 1:20:46.240
<v Speaker 1>just man in rubber suit fall on bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would emphasize that, like nothing this year does

1:20:49.600 --> 1:20:52.920
<v Speaker 3>not look funny, Like this is a the way it's

1:20:53.040 --> 1:20:56.639
<v Speaker 3>visually realized. These scenes are very like dark and grim.

1:20:57.240 --> 1:20:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:20:58.240 --> 1:21:00.360
<v Speaker 3>So of course as the chaos is going on, we

1:21:00.400 --> 1:21:02.960
<v Speaker 3>get a lot more radio reports, you know, like the

1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:06.280
<v Speaker 3>radio reporter says, like Piccadilly the heart of London. Words

1:21:06.280 --> 1:21:08.639
<v Speaker 3>can't describe it. There's been nothing like it, not even

1:21:08.720 --> 1:21:11.320
<v Speaker 3>in the worst of the blitz. This section is a

1:21:11.360 --> 1:21:15.599
<v Speaker 3>complete shambles, people running mad with fear, and we see

1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:17.880
<v Speaker 3>on the street level there's like a there's an End

1:21:17.920 --> 1:21:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Times profit who's wearing a sign that says repent the

1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:25.400
<v Speaker 3>end is nigh. And we see the admirals and the

1:21:25.479 --> 1:21:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Dublin scientists trying to come up with a plan to

1:21:27.960 --> 1:21:32.479
<v Speaker 3>like electrocute Mother Gorgo. The admirals like how much voltage, well,

1:21:32.520 --> 1:21:35.760
<v Speaker 3>we need and the Dublin scientist is like, h two

1:21:35.800 --> 1:21:39.520
<v Speaker 3>to three million volts but that's only a guess. Yeah,

1:21:39.640 --> 1:21:41.720
<v Speaker 3>then why do you even say it?

1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It?

1:21:41.880 --> 1:21:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Really they do a great job of making it feel

1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:47.120
<v Speaker 1>rather hopeless because at this point there's just no real

1:21:47.200 --> 1:21:50.040
<v Speaker 1>plan and it seems like nothing is going to stop

1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:54.479
<v Speaker 1>the absolute destruction of the city unless they were maybe

1:21:54.479 --> 1:21:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to do something like release Little Gorgo, which nobody is

1:21:58.720 --> 1:21:59.280
<v Speaker 1>actually doing.

1:21:59.520 --> 1:22:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Sam suggested before this all started. Sam was right.

1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Sam was right. Uh, so they've got this plan. You know,

1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:09.320
<v Speaker 3>we get a lot of moralizing from the radio reporters

1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:13.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about, you know, the whire all the electricity of

1:22:13.720 --> 1:22:17.439
<v Speaker 3>London has been redirected to the wires, to this animal

1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:20.040
<v Speaker 3>small enclosure. Will it be enough? Will it be enough

1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:22.880
<v Speaker 3>to stop this huge beast? Where will the miracle be

1:22:22.960 --> 1:22:25.960
<v Speaker 3>granted or will it be yet another of man's puny

1:22:26.000 --> 1:22:29.920
<v Speaker 3>efforts to oppose this irresistible force of ancient nature.

1:22:31.120 --> 1:22:34.920
<v Speaker 1>The miracle, the miracle of keeping this mother monster from

1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:38.519
<v Speaker 1>her young And like in a way, I mean, I

1:22:38.520 --> 1:22:42.040
<v Speaker 1>guess it's it's a rather effective part of the film here,

1:22:42.080 --> 1:22:46.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's like just do the the the like, like

1:22:46.720 --> 1:22:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the answer is right there in front of you, Like

1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:51.680
<v Speaker 1>why don't you do that? Release the monster? Why like

1:22:51.720 --> 1:22:57.080
<v Speaker 1>this this desperate, uh you know, egotistical uh desire to

1:22:57.320 --> 1:23:00.599
<v Speaker 1>defeat nature instead of like bending it least a little

1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:03.360
<v Speaker 1>bit to it here and instead they're just going to

1:23:03.400 --> 1:23:04.639
<v Speaker 1>invite absolute destruction.

1:23:04.880 --> 1:23:08.639
<v Speaker 3>Rob you're not understanding. Dorkin would lose some money.

1:23:08.760 --> 1:23:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's right because on top of the tickets,

1:23:10.520 --> 1:23:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the concessions alone, like he was banking on that.

1:23:13.760 --> 1:23:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, all right, So in the end, Mother Gorgo.

1:23:17.920 --> 1:23:20.840
<v Speaker 3>She makes it through. She rescues her baby, and Gorgo

1:23:20.960 --> 1:23:23.880
<v Speaker 3>and Mother Gorgo they trek back out to the ocean.

1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:26.599
<v Speaker 3>They get in the water and they start swimming away

1:23:27.200 --> 1:23:33.280
<v Speaker 3>and get the more of the like crazy commentary from

1:23:33.280 --> 1:23:36.920
<v Speaker 3>the radio reporter saying, we've prayed for a miracle. Maybe

1:23:36.920 --> 1:23:39.360
<v Speaker 3>our prayers have been answered. It's this speech that goes

1:23:39.400 --> 1:23:42.639
<v Speaker 3>on for a long time. He's saying. In the end,

1:23:42.920 --> 1:23:46.320
<v Speaker 3>she turns with her young, leaving the prostrate city, leaving

1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:49.360
<v Speaker 3>the haunts of man, and leaving Man himself to ponder

1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:52.960
<v Speaker 3>the proud boast that he alone is lord of all creation.

1:23:53.800 --> 1:23:56.880
<v Speaker 3>It is a very he tampered in God's domain kind

1:23:56.880 --> 1:24:00.880
<v Speaker 3>of ending. Yeah, and then we in the end, actually

1:24:00.920 --> 1:24:03.200
<v Speaker 3>they give the last word to Shan, the child who

1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:07.439
<v Speaker 3>who's watching the creatures leave, and Sean says, you're going

1:24:07.520 --> 1:24:10.720
<v Speaker 3>back now, back to the sea. And I do have

1:24:10.760 --> 1:24:12.799
<v Speaker 3>to say in the final shot where they're showing Gorgo

1:24:12.880 --> 1:24:15.200
<v Speaker 3>and Mother Gorgo going back into the water, they make

1:24:15.360 --> 1:24:18.440
<v Speaker 3>little Gorgo look really tiny in comparison.

1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it kind of drives home the obscenity of

1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the whole act of keeping this creature hostage.

1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:29.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's the end of Gorgo, Pity the Monster.

1:24:30.320 --> 1:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know it's reflecting back on it more here.

1:24:35.439 --> 1:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it does have a strong message that

1:24:38.680 --> 1:24:41.320
<v Speaker 1>it's trying to drive home and yeah you can't help.

1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:45.160
<v Speaker 1>But wonder if this too might have had an impact

1:24:45.240 --> 1:24:48.240
<v Speaker 1>on the Star. You know, this might have like laid

1:24:48.280 --> 1:24:52.479
<v Speaker 1>some of the groundwork for Bill Traver's later involvement in

1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>animal rights activism. I mean, not officially, but maybe a

1:24:57.680 --> 1:24:59.519
<v Speaker 1>little bit in addition to Born Free.

1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:04.080
<v Speaker 3>So that's a final verdict. I think Gorgo is a

1:25:04.080 --> 1:25:07.920
<v Speaker 3>tremendously enjoyable movie. It's, of course, as I said in

1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:11.320
<v Speaker 3>the beginning, funny and very concept funny in some elements

1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:14.960
<v Speaker 3>of execution, quite strong in other elements of execution. So

1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:17.759
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a fairly good entry in the giant

1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:21.639
<v Speaker 3>monster movie canon. You know, it's not quite your on

1:25:21.680 --> 1:25:24.519
<v Speaker 3>the level of like your original Godzilla and stuff like that,

1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:28.760
<v Speaker 3>but of the sort of mid level big monsters. It's

1:25:28.800 --> 1:25:29.880
<v Speaker 3>one of the better ones. I think.

1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Do you think they could come back and do a

1:25:32.280 --> 1:25:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Shin Gorgo Gorgo movie inspired by Shin Godzilla.

1:25:37.920 --> 1:25:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Where half of it is like the British Navy having

1:25:40.840 --> 1:25:44.000
<v Speaker 3>meetings and then having meetings about other meetings that should

1:25:44.040 --> 1:25:44.760
<v Speaker 3>be organized.

1:25:45.040 --> 1:25:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we didn't get enough meetings in this film about

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<v Speaker 1>relations with Ireland, about Gorgo rights, who has the rights

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<v Speaker 1>to the monster, and the exporting of the monster and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. A lot that could be done there.

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<v Speaker 3>For listeners who don't recall and the pat We're big

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<v Speaker 3>fans of shin Godzilla. I haven't seen the more recent one,

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<v Speaker 3>Godzilla Minus one, but I've been hearing very good things

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same, same. So it's a reminder that even though

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<v Speaker 1>the giant monster movie, you know, we think of it

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<v Speaker 1>as being just very formulaic and if you've seen one,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen them all, and that everything that could be

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<v Speaker 1>done has been done and the only upgrade you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get are going to be effects based, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the case. Like clearly, there are still interesting

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<v Speaker 1>stories to tell with giant monsters, and they keep coming,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say that's wonderful. I'm all for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here here all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go ahead and close the book on

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<v Speaker 1>Gorgo here, but we'd love to hear from you if

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<v Speaker 1>you have thoughts on Gorgo on other Kaiju movies that

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned in this episode, or once we didn't mention

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