1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hi, everyone, 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: welcome back to I Choose Me. Garrie Preston's career has 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: ebbed and flowed on her own terms, including how she 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: has chosen to age in front of the world. So 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: let's jump back into our conversation. So, working in this industry, 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: as we both have for decades, means evolving aka aging 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: in front of all the cameras. Yes, how do you 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: protect your sense of self as those expectations that we 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: talked about were earlier in your career are still there. 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: They seem to continually hover and shift. 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: They do, they do, And you know, social media is 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: not helping anybody. 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: But I am, you know, in the same way that 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: I spoke about that. 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: Time when I got that note. I do try to 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: keep it in perspective. I try to, you know, for me, 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: I try to take care of my body and the 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: best way I know how. 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: I try to eat well. I try to, you know, 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 3: get my sleep. I do. I try to exercise, meditate. 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: We're doing all the things. 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: I try to do all the things. 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I'm I'm lucky enough right now 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: to be playing a character that doesn't need to or 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: doesn't feel the need to, you know, present herself in 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: a certain way, and so I feel lucky, you know. 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: I try to look. 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Good and then I just play the character and hope 29 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: that that's going to be enough and that you know, 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: that will lead to other things. And I look at 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: people who I admire, you know, like Meryl Street, Frances McDorman, 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: Alison Janney, and I see, you know, those careers and 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: what they've done and how they've grown, and that's what 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: I endeavor to do in the way I, you know, 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: choose to age and also the way I choose to 36 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: be creative, and so I draw inspiration from them. 37 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Yes, that's good having those I always was so in 38 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: love with Jessica Lang. 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jessica Lang, same yeah. 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: And just watching how she aged so beautifully and gracefully 41 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and same yeah. 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 3: And I just love that. 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: I want that for myself, and I want that for 44 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: the characters that I play. 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: I haven't done botox, haven't done anything. I want to 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: be able to, you know, express myself with my face. 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sort of a part of your job. Yeah, 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: it's sort of gotten me where I am. As far 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: as the types of characters that I play, you know, 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: and so. 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: I like doing that, but I also feel like, oh, well, 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to age pastor than some of the people 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: that are, you know, preserving their faces in a different way. 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: And okay, that's okay with me. I think I'm going 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: to be able to you know, somebody is going to 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: need to play the grandmother, you know, so. 58 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yes, we're not going to have any 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: fluffy or plus size actresses anymore. And we're not gonna 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: have anybody with wrinkles. I know. 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: It's interesting, right, There's gonna. 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: Be a lot of work for certain types. So yeah, 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I think you're doing You're on the right track and 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: also very just admirable to you know, want to age 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: gracefully and naturally, and yeah, be true to you. 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: And I want people who watch my show to go, 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: oh yeah, that's that's This is a mature woman, you know, 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: who's having a who's reinventing herself and you know, she's 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: she's found this new job and that's the love of 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: her life is this work, and you know, and she 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: continues to find delight and joy and everything that she 72 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: comes across. That's you know, at this point in her life. 73 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Yes, that fire inside of her is so inspiring, and 74 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't that fire doesn't really depend on what she 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: looks like or how she's aging, which is so cool. 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 3: Right. I don't think she thinks of her age much 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: at all. 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: Right, you know, I guess maybe we shouldn't. 79 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: We shouldn't, I go, we shouldn't. 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: I know, but we're you know, we're in such an 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: age obsessed world in our country. 82 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: For sure, you advocate for causes that are close to 83 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: your heart. I know you work with lgbt Q I 84 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: A plus. 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: Do you think that choosing to help others is also 87 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: a form of self care or choosing yourself ultimately? 88 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I think so for sure. 89 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when I was contemplating what I 90 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: would say to the question that, you know what, what's 91 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: the last thing that you use yourself? 92 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, gosh, I. 93 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: Feel like I feel like I choose myself just by 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: being generous, Like how isn't that the same? 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: Is that the same? I think it is. 96 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: You know, I try to be generous of part of spirit, 97 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: of money, of love, of creativity, you know, and all 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 2: of that, and that just feeds you know me. I mean, 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: I love that I want to create an environment on 100 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: at work that people are happy to come to, that 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: people feel joy about. 102 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: You know. I try to. 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: Approach this job as the lead of a show, as 104 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: an ensemble player. 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: I don't set myself apart. 106 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to think of me as anything 107 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: different than anyone else. 108 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: Who's part of this crew. 109 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: There are three hundred people who make this show that 110 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: happens to be named after one character. There are three 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: hundred people and more that make it. I want everybody 112 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: to feel ownership of that and part of that, you know. 113 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: I want that LGBT community to see stories that represent 114 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: them and their lives, and I want to support any 115 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: stories that do that. 116 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: And you know, especially now, there's just a lot of bad. 117 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Othering that's going on in the world, and I, you know, 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: I just don't think that's the way to make the 119 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: world a better place, you know, So I like supporting 120 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: those those causes and those types of artists. 121 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: It's so important, Yeah, who are telling those stories, right. 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: I mean? 123 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: And also being the star of the show. I mean, 124 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: even though you like to think of it as an ensemble, 125 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: which it definitely is, because without everybody else, there would 126 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: be no show. There would be no Elsbeth. So, but 127 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: you do have that sort of like in the back 128 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: of your mind, that responsibility to this whole group of people, 129 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: these crew members who are working to pay their bills, 130 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: and these actors that are getting their first break or 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe background actors that are so excited to be on 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: the set. You know, you're really setting the tone for 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: that environment, and it sounds like you really hold space 134 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: to make that pleasant for everyone. 135 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: I do endeavor to do that. Yes, that's one of 136 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: my main goals. And you know, I'm proud to say 137 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: that we're we have a reputation of it being a 138 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: wonderful place to come and work. 139 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: And our crew, you know, they keep coming back. 140 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: Our crew comes back every year, and you know, actors 141 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: want to be on the show. People are asking can 142 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: I be on the show, And that's just that. I 143 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: feel very proud of all of us that we've come 144 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: up with that together and that you know, people want 145 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: to come and play with us. 146 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Yes, creating that culture so. 147 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: Feel safe there and feel welcomed. 148 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so important. My husband's in the hospitality business, 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: so he like that, right, So it's so important that 150 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: people come to your place, Yeah, and feel comfortable and 151 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: seeing and represented and. 152 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah all that. 153 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that you take that seriously. 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: I think it's like almost my number one thing. I mean, 155 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: my number one thing I guess is you know, learn 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: the lines and standard your mark. 157 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: But you know, alongside. 158 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: That's it's that, it's it's working to make so that 159 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: we have a cohesive so that everybody is there with 160 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: one common goal, which is to tell this particular story 161 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: and to do it on time and on budget and 162 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: to delight people. 163 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, what's better than that, what's. 164 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: Better than that? You said it? You're living the dream. 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: I do feel very you know, blessed. 166 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: You're blessed, but you've also worked really hard, right, Yeah, 167 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: and so I want to make sure that I, you know, 168 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: I don't take. 169 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: It for granted and that it's not so it really is. 170 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: Not lost on me, you know this this moment, because 171 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: it's it can go away tomorrow. We have a crazy business. 172 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: You know, the industry is really volatile really, so you know. 173 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: I really want to enjoy it now. 174 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: I'm I'm enjoying it for you, Like this is so 175 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: good for you. I love it. You've had such a 176 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: long and steady career without disappearing or imploding, which happens 177 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: a lot, but this is very rare to have someone 178 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: like you. What what do you What do you think 179 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: is the one choice that you make quietly that keeps 180 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: you sane and working all these years. 181 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: I think as far as work goes, I guess it's 182 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: about uh, releasing. 183 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: There's a lot of releasing, the need. 184 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: To get the job, to be told you're the best 185 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: to to you know, all of that has you have 186 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: to come to a kind of place, a zen place 187 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: about it. You know, a good friend of mine who's 188 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: an acting coach, he's also an actor, Jack Plotnik. He 189 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: gave me this mantra once that I hold on to 190 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: and it goes, this or something greater for my highest 191 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: good and the highest good of all concerned, Meaning you 192 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: go in, you do your best if you're auditioning for something, 193 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: or even if you're doing a job, and if it's 194 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: not for you, it's meant for someone else and that's 195 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: for the highest good. And so it kind of releases 196 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: the pressure that you put on yourself. 197 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, perfect too. 198 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: You know, you can only do what you can do 199 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: with what you have at that moment, with that material, 200 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: with those people, in that room, and then it's up 201 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: to you know, something higher, right. 202 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lot of surrender to it. 203 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Right for sure. And that's applies to not just you know, auditioning, 204 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: and it's just being human, having a human experience day 205 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: to day, moment to moment. It sort of feels like 206 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: releasing something I loved to think about as releasing the 207 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: attachments that I put on the importance I put onto 208 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: things like being the best or getting the thing or 209 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, making everybody happy. 210 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the Buddhists say that the two 211 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: two things that make up human condition condition or attachment 212 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: and aversion. 213 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: So you're attached to. 214 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: Something or you're pushing something away and that you know, 215 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: that's suffering being in the moment, and that makes you suffer. 216 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: And so you know, it's it's a lesson that you 217 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: spend a lifetime trying to learn. 218 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: You know, every day you go back to that, Oh boy. 219 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm attached to this, or I you know, boy, 220 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: I really got hijacked by that, or wow, you know, 221 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of observing about what is going on 222 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: with you? 223 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: Why am I reacting this way? Oh boy? There was 224 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: no space. 225 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: Between that stimulus and that response. Wow, gotta work on that, 226 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: you know. So you know, I'm constantly trying to you know, 227 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: I try to assess, like. 228 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: What do I need to work on? What? 229 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: What? 230 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: How can I improve myself without being too hard on myself? 231 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: So that's that's the balance, Yeah, because that can be 232 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: hard on myself too. 233 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: It's really hard. I say, stop pointing the finger and 234 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: start pulling the thumb so that you are in a 235 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: space where you can be you know, self aware and 236 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: sort of conscious of what you're creating around you. 237 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: Yep. 238 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: And but yeah, I think it's so so good, such 239 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: good advice for everybody listening. This has been such an 240 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: incredible conversation. Thank you for coming on the show. 241 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: It was so nice to talk to you, and thanks 242 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: for having me of course. Bye.